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Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 4th, 2013
3:30 pm
Yep, that’s the difference. If it were Democrat cronyism, the libs here would be falling all over themselves justifying it. At least most of us in the right can look at a pile of poop and say it stinks. Even if the poop has a R behind it’s name.
Total nonsense.
Thomas Heyward Jr
February 4th, 2013
3:31 pm
indigo
February 4th, 2013
3:12 pm
Thomas Hewyard Jr. – 2:38
You have two choices:
1. Believe those who are experts on global warming.
2. Continue to ignore the mounting evidence and just hope it goes away.
http://www.issues.org/25.3/p_hahn.html
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To claim TO KNOW there is global warming is ridiculous.
To claim TO KNOW that there is Anthropoligical global warming is ……………………………Obama-voter-ville..
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lol
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 4th, 2013
3:33 pm
Given the fact that most of the current Republicans are former Democrats, I’d say that it’s merely evidence that the good old boy network is still in full effect under a different party banner.
They conveniently ignore this fact all the time.
Adam
February 4th, 2013
3:34 pm
If it were Democrat cronyism, the libs here would be falling all over themselves justifying it. At least most of us in the right can look at a pile of poop and say it stinks. Even if the poop has a R behind it’s name.
What a load of horse crap. Nice attempt at projection though.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
February 4th, 2013
3:36 pm
To claim TO KNOW there is global warming is ridiculous.
To doubt it at this point is ridiculous.
There is near consensus in the Scientific Community.
ad
February 4th, 2013
3:37 pm
So, basically, the message is that the GOP needs bigger printers to hide behind.
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
3:38 pm
Nice attempt at projection though.
wouldn’t that really be “conjection” in your context?
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
3:39 pm
At least most of us in the right can look at a pile of poop and say it stinks. Even if the poop has a R behind it’s name.
Really??? Seriously???
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vinny
February 4th, 2013
2:02 pm
Obama likes to shoot skeet, but states that he doesn’t care for the flavor of them. He’s also concerned with the dwindling skeet population and plans to put out a presidential directive that forbids hunting and/or capturing of skeet.
Union
February 4th, 2013
2:05 pm
im thinking he learned it from bob menendez..
straitroad
February 4th, 2013
2:19 pm
I thought this was going to be about Senator Menendez. Jay, you are no different from conservative mouthpieces that only criticize liberals. Any number of people could write your blog on any given day as long as it had an extreme liberal tone and none of your regulars would know the difference.
DownInAlbany
February 4th, 2013
2:55 pm
Even though I don’t like what’s going on with Rogers and GPB, I guess it’s legal, right? Unethical? Yes, I’ll agree to that. I don’t guess, though, that we’ll see any of you screaming about Robert Menendez, huh? Does it have anything to do with the “D-NJ” after his name?
Given that those posters all lean right, I don’t think any of those statements can qualify as looking at a pile of poop and saying it stinks, especially considering this pile has a (R) on it. DownInAlbany comes just about the closest of all with his first sentence, but then he appears to try to downplay it or make it seem ok right before he goes into the “but Timmy did this!!” deflective defense.
stands for decibels
February 4th, 2013
3:39 pm
I don’t guess, though, that we’ll see any of you screaming about Robert Menendez, huh? Does it have anything to do with the “D-NJ” after his name?
shrug. Maybe it does. The “NJ” part, anyway.
To be honest I hadn’t heard much about it, but news-googling it gave me this:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/04/3216337/trail-of-sen-bob-menendez-investigation.html
SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic — The shadowy tipster who made explosive allegations involving U.S. Sen. Bob Menendez and underage prostitutes in the Dominican Republic named names. He gave descriptions of the women, and in some cases, phone numbers and addresses.
Despite those details, the women are nowhere to be found.
A week after the claims made headlines in the United States and on this Caribbean island, the alleged prostitutes have disappeared. An attorney who once represented two of the women said he hadn’t spoken to them in months, and then stopped returning phone calls himself. A two-bedroom apartment where some of the alleged liaisons took place is now vacant. Little remains here beyond hazy memories.
maybe that’s why you’re not hearing more? there isn’t anything new to report?
Adam
February 4th, 2013
3:39 pm
Erwin’s cat: wouldn’t that really be “conjection” in your context?
Well, I was mostly referring to how the paragraph started, not how it ended.
bigbill
February 4th, 2013
3:40 pm
One of the current board members at Georgia Public Broadcasting just happens to be Bert Brantley. One wonders if he thus had a role in Chip Roger’s transition from the Georgia legislature to GPB. After all Brantley surely has the background and credentials to have helped make this happen. Brantley is currently Executive vice-President for Public Affairs and Issue Management at major PR firm McRae Communications:
http://eon.businesswire.com/news/eon/20110124006135/en/McRae/Bert-Brantley/public-affairs
He was not only communications director for Governor Sonny Perdue, but he also recently stage-managed the passage of the very controversial Georgia charter school amendment as the CEO of the pro-charter school non-profit “Families for Better Public Schools,” through which hundreds of thousands in out of state (and in-state) donations were funneled from powerful anti-public school education millionaires, billionaires, and the charter school corporate entities which will now benefit from this sea-change in how charter schools get approved in Georgia, Yes, one wonders whether Brantley just happened to be strategically located as a board member at Georgia Public Broadcasting right at the time these Republicans needed him to be there, i.e., right at the time they needed Rogers to be employed somewhere else besides the Georgia General Assembly.
Adam
February 4th, 2013
3:41 pm
Brosephus: “but Timmy did this!!” deflective defense.
I prefer “Demmy did it too”
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
3:41 pm
There is near consensus in the Scientific Community
ha! there has been consensus behind plenty of bad theories…it didn’t make them right either
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
3:47 pm
Adam
I think that one works much better. Hope you don’t mind me jacking that one from you.
stands for decibels
February 4th, 2013
3:47 pm
there has been consensus behind plenty of bad theories…
Anything even remotely comparable (size, length of time, etc.) to what exists today regarding the effect of greenhouse gases on the climate?
Adam
February 4th, 2013
3:48 pm
Erwin: Consensus is not the reason to say it’s not in serious dispute. Overwhelming evidence is.
What we have are a few confirmed truths:
1) That global warming is happening
2) That the common scapegoats are not the cause (solar fluctuations, “just a natural cycle”)
3) That humans are mostly the cause.
The majority of scientists who have peer-reviewed the research now only disagree on whether our factor of influence is closer to 51%, or closer to 95% (the percentages are made up to make the point that scientists assert we are THE major cause, based on study after study, and no scientist has credibly disputed this assertion, and that we just don’t know the exact degree of our influence, but that it really matters very little what that exact number is).
Basically, as I have been over all this before, there is simply no cause to think it’s a made up conspiracy, or that humans have nothing to do with it, at this point.
I am sure it won’t make a difference to you but if you like I will spam a summary of what we know that backs this up. And you and others will deny it, of course, just like you do every time. So I don’t really see the point unless someone is seriously wondering what the actual data is, as opposed to someone who is pretending to want the data so they can come up with confirmation bias arguments against it.
Adam
February 4th, 2013
3:49 pm
Brosephus: Please. I have been trying for MONTHS.
indigo
February 4th, 2013
3:49 pm
Thomas Hewyard Jr. – 3:31
Erwin’s cat – 3:41
To ignore a ton of hard scientific evidence shows both of you are, in all likelihood, ignorant Christian homeschoolers.
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
3:51 pm
To ignore a ton of hard scientific evidence shows both of you are, in all likelihood, ignorant Christian homeschoolers.
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weetamoe
February 4th, 2013
3:51 pm
So the West Georgia College Anthropology Department is teaching students to hate white people and one of the first academic successes is the grad who murders one young white woman, paralyzes another, and nicks a third. Wonder if he had a Pell Grant. Wonder if he has repaid his student loans. No matter what Obama gaffe slips through the media blockade of silence, one of Jay’s helpers dredges up one from *Dubya* or makes one up. That shot heard ’round the world did not take down a clay pigeon. Dean was a democrat before he changed his suit. Never got my vote. Since those *non-profits* like GPB feed at the government trough one way or the other even if just through tax exemptions I suppose it is ok if just one *con* gets his *fair share,* And that should just about cover the range of items under discussion today.
williebkind
February 4th, 2013
3:53 pm
Hey, I have seen this before! The guy (Waters I believe) on FOX news goes out after some VIP in other arenas. He gets very little cooperation from those he seeks out too. So have the liberals decided to copy FOX news. No ideas of their own huh.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
3:54 pm
JAY
Is there a written law that an interview target needs to stop everything they are doing and respond to the press anytime they are confronted with a camera?
This guy Rogers and his pals very well may be scoundrels not worthy of current employment. But to confuse this item with avoiding some news hound chasing the guy around the building without any prior notice and expecting a hold everything I am obligated to respond right here right now as it is convenient for another camera in your face, sophomoric childs game is idiotic.
Doesn’t this type of arrogance and biased actions akin to getting the “widow on the set..we need dirty laundry” or we will make you look silly to the dopes who watch local news.
Sad state of media affairs continues it’s dive into the gutter..
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
3:55 pm
stands for dB Anything even remotely comparable (size, length of time, etc.) to what exists today regarding the effect of greenhouse gases on the climate?
sure, i think, not sure how to define them in your metrics…..fundamentally though, yes basic principles that were once accepted have been proven otherwise…science was then and still is evolving, but before you insist on a link or example…Cheesy said “near consensus” which by definition is w/o consensus…like being almost pregnant!…so if you think that there is “consensus” then take it up with Cheesy Grits…it’s his assertion
TaxPayer
February 4th, 2013
3:56 pm
Perhaps he would not feel such a need to run and hide if he were to vote himself the right to bear arms while at work. His rod and/or his staff could comfort him.
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
3:57 pm
alittlecommonsense
There have been more conservatives chiming in since your post @ 3:26 about differences between the Left and Right. Are you still standing by your statement that those of you on the Right can look at a pile of poop and say it stinks, even if the poop has a R behind it’s name?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
3:57 pm
Adam
February 4th, 2013
3:48 pm
How did we get from a scumbag journalist trying to make a scumbag politician look like a scumbag to climate change?
I missed that transition..
TaxPayer
February 4th, 2013
3:58 pm
Also, there is plenty of consensus behind good theories. More so than “bad” theories such as one finds from the typical Republican.
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
3:59 pm
Adam…you could convince me or #1….maybe
but that’s it
indigo….your standard retort….sigh
stands for decibels
February 4th, 2013
3:59 pm
so if you think that there is “consensus” then take it up with Cheesy Grits…
I think there is, actually, just wondered if you had a somewhat some reasonable example from the past that was comparable.
Not trying to entrap you, but honestly, the only thing I ever hear from the climate skeptics is some business about a new ice age popular 35-40 years ago, if memory of previous cites I’ve seen serves. Problem is, it wasn’t as massive nor anywhere near as long-lived as what we have regarding greenhouse gases today.
/drive-by
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
4:01 pm
TaxPayer
February 4th, 2013
3:56 pm
Good one….I do think that if the press is arrogant enough to put some other scumbag on the spot and expect to catch him offguard to generate some “you heard it here first” resume builder, it was smart of that guy to not comment…
The press is always using the smash and grab technique to put, on a usually biased basis, a politician or others in a position where nothing good could result.
Maybe she should try to get an appointment like the rest of us..?
Jefferson
February 4th, 2013
4:01 pm
Someone should puke on Rodgers.
deegee
February 4th, 2013
4:02 pm
I won’t be happy until I see Chip Rogers relieved of his duties at GPB. I heard on CNBC that the construction industry is now experiencing a shortage of workers. Chip can go frame houses now that his ethnic cleansing laws worked so well for us.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
4:03 pm
williebkind
February 4th, 2013
3:53 pm
Its commonplace..it used to be called “hard hitting journalism”….but it really is extortion…..talk to us or we will tarnish you…
JohnnyReb
February 4th, 2013
4:04 pm
They are releasing the audio from the Obama skeet shooting photo opportunity.
After the first shot, you can hear Obama say something like – that’s one rich guy; then after the next shot – that’s two rich guys, and then – that’s three rich guys!
indigo
February 4th, 2013
4:05 pm
Brosephus – 3:51
Now what?
Are you siding with the “global warming is just a liberal conspiracy” nuts?
Adam
February 4th, 2013
4:05 pm
Stevie Ray: How did we get from a scumbag journalist trying to make a scumbag politician look like a scumbag to climate change?
Honestly I’m not sure.
Jay
February 4th, 2013
4:06 pm
No law, written or otherwise, Stevie Ray, requires an elected official to face the music. If the politician in question decides that looking like a fool hiding in plain sight is less damaging footage than actually answering a question on camera, he or she is welcome to take that course. The public is free to judge for themselves in such cases.
Likewise, no law forbids the media from showing an official refusing to face the music.
Yes, I’ve seen cases in which the “chase video” was probably overdone and inappropriate. I don’t believe this was one of those.
(And isn’t Willieb cute in his belief that the guy from Fox News invented what in fact has been a staple of TV news for 60 years or longer?)
Adam
February 4th, 2013
4:07 pm
indigo: I think he’s trying to let you know ignorance isn’t exclusive to any particular method of learning. It depends on what is taught. Home schooling doesn’t always turn out ignorant people any more than public school always turns out the best and brightest.
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
4:07 pm
Are you siding with the “global warming is just a liberal conspiracy” nuts?
Nope, I’m just wondering why you had to throw that barb about Christians in there, when they have said absolutely nothing that would lead one to think their opinions are based upon their faith and/or beliefs.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
4:09 pm
Erwin’s cat
February 4th, 2013
3:59 pm
Seems to me none of us knows if the planet is forever on a trajectory of warming, if man is irrefutably at fault, and if anything can be done.
The science is immature to say the least..what is unique with this science is that supporters seem to be above challenge. I would think they would welcome it as part of the process. Try to get public funding to challenge what is prematurely taken as “truth”.
I have no idea what’s happening with complete certainty. I do have an idea about the politics of it all…but signing some Kyoto crap so other countries can siphon money from us is silly.
Adam
February 4th, 2013
4:10 pm
Brosephus: when they have said absolutely nothing that would lead one to think their opinions are based upon their faith and/or beliefs.
I know what you meant here, but a semantic nazi may not recognize that you were talking specifically about religious beliefs or faith….
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
4:11 pm
Adam
The semantic nazis can bite my naturally black ass.
Adam
February 4th, 2013
4:11 pm
Stevie Ray: The science is immature to say the least..what is unique with this science is that supporters seem to be above challenge. I would think they would welcome it as part of the process. Try to get public funding to challenge what is prematurely taken as “truth”.
I have no problem with that. What I have a problem with is that is not how the “global warming doesn’t exist and/or we can’t do anything about it” people approach this. At all.
Redcoat
February 4th, 2013
4:12 pm
weetamoe……….”So the West Georgia College Anthropology Department is teaching students to hate white people and one of the first academic successes is the grad who murders one young white woman, paralyzes another, and nicks a third……….” How long ago was this, I don’t remember anything on the news…….?
Adam
February 4th, 2013
4:12 pm
Brosephus: The semantic nazis can bite my naturally black ass.
Jay
February 4th, 2013
4:12 pm
And Stevie Ray, do you really think the problem was a lack of appointment? That Sen. Heath just had somewhere else he needed to be? Like hiding behind a printer?
“Yes, Ms. Geary, I think we can fit you in at 10 a.m. on the 12th. The 12th of Never.”
I’ve engaged in a few of those footraces in the Capitol myself, without a cameraman in my wake. You try to catch up to a guy to ask him a question, he feigns ignorance and starts walking faster to stay ahead, you start walking even faster and he then breaks into Olympic speed-walker mode, all the while pretending that he doesn’t know you’re back there ….
It’s kind of funny, really.
TaxPayer
February 4th, 2013
4:12 pm
For the interested reader, here is some of the emperical evidence behind “man-made” global warming. Of course this link is not intended for Republicans since they don’t do math or science.
alittlecommonsense
February 4th, 2013
4:13 pm
“Are you still standing by your statement that those of you on the Right can look at a pile of poop and say it stinks, even if the poop has a R behind it’s name?”
Yep. I have been convinced of this since I watched the Republicans drum Bob Packwood out of the Senate but Democrats stood behind Bill Clinton when their transgressions were very similar.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
4:13 pm
Jay
February 4th, 2013
4:06 pm
I agree about looking a fool but some folks have no clue how to respond to such a sneak attack. A no commment or suggestion that the discussion take place in an appropriate, level playing field is obvious best judgment call but turning your back on them isn’t necessarily an unexpected play. The press got what they wanted, an embarrassing view of a guy who perhaps just freaked out…of course this will be forever used by opponents to chase him from office..that’s not right.
I can’t believe I am actually defending a scumbag…
Paul
February 4th, 2013
4:17 pm
Rule of Thumb: the more conservatives can’t defend the indefensible, the more the deflections (global warming, Obama, etc) occur.
This thread’s a doozy for that.
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
4:17 pm
stands – almost any aspect of modern physics is a work in progress….
heck Einstein and everyone thought the universe was contracting rather than expending because of sign convention….before that they thought it was static..Tesla thought the earth itself was expanding…
point being, and my take is…the jury is still out and the current models way short of correlation much less “proof”…I’m all for being a good steward of the planet, and the planet may very well be warming but I don’t self-loath enough (not intended as a jab at you) to think mankind is the ultimate destruction of the planet…and dissenting opinions like Burt Rutan have some merit…I think it’s an objective POV…there’s just not enough or a complete set of data and parameters….it’s a problem that is as complex as it gets…to say we understand and know is just niave in my POV…but as a scientist I am wrong more often than right (especially in the forward looking stuff), I see no shame in it, it’s how we learn
Logical Dude
February 4th, 2013
4:18 pm
Unable to see video, so I’ll jump into the Global Warming / Climate Change adventure.
Really, if anyone doubts that climate change IS HAPPENING. or that Humans ARE A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR. Then I”m not interested in dealing with them.
They’re wrong, Ignorant, and willingly ignorant because the evidence is there. Humans are a significant source of climate change. Say it with me now.
The argument should be “What do we do about it?”
a) nothin’. keep polluting and poisoning the only world we have.
b) Something piecemeal. Because doing anything big is hard. (recycle, change to energy saving applicances)
c) Something a little harder. Because it’s worth doing to help the planet. Cut auto emissions, cut business emissions, cut energy emissions, enable and support clean energy of all kinds.
d) Something significant. Punish those that do not clean up their act. Pay significantly more for clean energy now, shut down anything that pollutes over a certain threshold.
e) Going overboard. Halt/reverse economy by placing prohibitive restrictions on everything to clean the air.
Anyone want to weigh in on actions above, or actions that I did not mention?
The best policy I can think of is like the Boy Scouts. . . Leave the place better than you found it.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
4:21 pm
Jay
February 4th, 2013
4:12 pm
Yeah I guess the appointment comment is kinda naive on my part. Trying to catch an unprepared guy with a camera is pretty low nonetheless. It’s kinda like the old contextual challenge the press seems to have…you know, showing a sound bite without context to get folks to tune in….or otherwise validate already validated political positions….”in another example of GOP stupidity, here is video of the second sentence of a 3 page speech by senator screwus..”
DownInAlbany
February 4th, 2013
4:23 pm
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
3:39 pm
Not a defense, Bro. Merely pointing out that corruption doesn’t always have “R” behind it, much to the dismay of this crowd!
stands for decibels
February 4th, 2013
3:39 pm
You may want to look outside the msm. Menendez pays $58,000 to Melgen after an internal “audit”. The same Melgen that donated close to $1 million to Menendez. Naw, nothing to see here, move along!
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
4:24 pm
Yep. I have been convinced of this since I watched the Republicans drum Bob Packwood out of the Senate but Democrats stood behind Bill Clinton when their transgressions were very similar.
Really??? If I remember correctly, most of the women involved with Clinton were consenting adults. Paula Jones and Juanita Broaddrick accused him of assaulting them. There may have been one or two others, but those are the only names I remember off hand. Gennifer Flowers and Monica were both consenting adults with Bill. How many of Packwood’s staffers consented?
As to your statement, those on the Right put Newt Gingrich on the path to the presidency for a split second. Most recently, the Lt. Governor of Nebraska had to step down because he was making bootycalls on his state issued phone. I have yet to hear the Right call out that stinking poop, but go ahead with your erroneous broad brushed statements. There may indeed be SOME on the Right that call out their own, but they’re not here posting to aid your cause today.
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
4:26 pm
DownInAlbany
No problem. That’s why I said it appeared that you appeared to downplay it. I could take it from your context that you were not condoning such a thing. However, someone could read what you wrote and interpret it quite differently.
Uh Huh...THIS AIN'T ABOUT OBAMA. Cons can RUN but you can't HIDE.
February 4th, 2013
4:26 pm
@vinny
February 4th, 2013
2:02 pm
Obama likes to shoot skeet, but states that he doesn’t care for the flavor of them. He’s also concerned with the dwindling skeet population and plans to put out a presidential directive that forbids hunting and/or capturing of skeet.
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This AIN’T about Obama.
This is about ANOTHER crooked Republican making money at
the TAXPAYER’S expense.
Yet YOU Cons want to talk about Obama and skeet shooting.
This just shows how ignorant, uneducated and unintelligent YOU
cons are.
Stay focused.
Repond to the ISSUE AT HAND.
YOU CAN’T BLAME OBAMA FOR YOUR IGNORANCE.
Road Scholar
February 4th, 2013
4:27 pm
“If it were Democrat cronyism, the libs here would be falling all over themselves justifying it.”
But if you can remember, the conservatives/repubs made a great deal out of the Demo control, and said they would never do such things because it is wrong. Pot calling the kettle…Such short memories?
For those who think the picture of President Obama is a hoax, some even alluded to the vegetation behind him looking like the vegetation at Camp David during January 2013. Yeah you idiots, the Deciduous trees behind him have had their leaves glued on! Not!
Skip
February 4th, 2013
4:28 pm
A sneak attack question about the E-mail he sent? That’s a stretch.
Boris Badnoff
February 4th, 2013
4:28 pm
It will be interesting to read this blog when Chip Rodgers hires both Lori Geary and Jay Bookman as part of his PR team.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
4:28 pm
Adam
February 4th, 2013
4:11 pm
Agreed. What is ridiculous in my book is the polarization of this issue.
The natural response to a hypothesis from the hypothesiser (a word?)is to try everything possible to render the finding moot. It seems to me that no private of public funding is available for anything that challenges current thought.
The most frequent debate strategy is the shout down…
The climate is changing…that seems to be a constant.
Who really knows? I don’t…
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
4:29 pm
Bro – had to step down because he was making bootycalls on his state issued phone
I mean really hasn’t he or Tiger ever heard of a walmart prepaid ho-phone?
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
4:31 pm
EC
I know it’s sad, but I even thought of something similar to that. I was thinking that, with his money, he should be able to buy a cheap MetroPCS or something to use. I tell you what, when men think with the lower brain, the IQ drops to freezing temperature numbers.
Road Scholar
February 4th, 2013
4:31 pm
Boris B: How much will Deal pay them?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
4:31 pm
Skip
February 4th, 2013
4:28 pm
Yeah, that seems to be what it was to me. She certainly did sneak up on him with camera in tow….If he is too cowardly to ever respond to questions that’s one thing. To be extorted to respond at the convenience of some headline seeker is another…
Again, I can’t believe I’m defending a scumbag..
DownInAlbany
February 4th, 2013
4:32 pm
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
4:26 pm
I consider myself a contrarian…some would say devil’s advocate. I enjoy trying to get spirited debates going (here and on, gasp!, the AJC conservative blog). I enjoy pointing out the hypocrisy on both sides of the aisle. I’ve said on here many times that I pretty much think they (D and R) are all looking at the next election cycle rather than what’ in OUR best interest. I usually just end up with a cyber-blackeye!
Uh Huh...THIS AIN'T ABOUT OBAMA. Cons can RUN but you can't HIDE.
February 4th, 2013
4:33 pm
If you cons would stop chewing tobacco and drinking mountain dew
you might be able to focus on the topic “If you can’t defend the indefensible,
run and hide”.
Oh…..I see…you can’t defend the indefensible.
So you deflect by talking about everything else.
Do you cons suffer from ADD (ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER)?
I THINK YOU DO.
No wonder you cons lost to OBAMA.
If you ever want to win the White House you better STAY FOCUSED.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
4:34 pm
WOW,
Four dead folks found in Johns Creek apartment complex….all of us white and asian folk up here have no idea how to respond…
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
4:35 pm
I’ve said on here many times that I pretty much think they (D and R) are all looking at the next election cycle rather than what’ in OUR best interest.
I’ll concur with that 100%…
There’s nothing wrong with playing devil’s advocate though. That actually shows that you’re capable of thinking from more than one side of your brain. Hell, that probably puts you in the top 25% of thinkers in this country right about now.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
4:38 pm
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
4:35 pm
Our interests? What does that have to do with our government processes? The dysfunction starts and ends there.
The challenge being devils advocate in my experience is keeping a thick coat of skin….I’m not always successful..
GT
February 4th, 2013
4:38 pm
One of the things I worry about with alternative cable networks and owner designed internet news is the local corruption goes unanswered. These guys go and hide from this reporter and she doesn’t come back, he now has a green light to do it again. I mean it was pretty corrupt when you had the Ray Moores reporting hard and furious, but now the resources are dissipating and these crooks kind of control what they want you to hear.
This is why I was so happy Obama came through the negative ad attack of the rich right in the last campaign. I think the corrupt politicians can control places like Georgia where obviously more people are like them than not, but nationwide seem to see through these petty crooks and not allow for this cheap stuff to go on. We desperately need a two party system in this state.
CC
February 4th, 2013
4:38 pm
“Okay, I’m out for a steering committee meeting.”
Arra boy! Hang in there! I’m sure MARTA will eventually relent and give you that job driving a big bus!
getalife
February 4th, 2013
4:39 pm
I laugh when they cower from reporters because it is funny.
Mr Right
February 4th, 2013
4:39 pm
Progressive, Liberal, Lefty
February 4th, 2013
2:19 pm
That’s funny. President Obama likes skeet. Reminds me of when Dubya was running for president and stated that he expected to carry West Consin AND East Consin. The difference is, Dubya was serious.
Also reminds me of Obama visiting ALL 57 states!
Whatever
February 4th, 2013
4:39 pm
The indefensible….I thought this was going to be about abortion and Cuomo.
Jay
February 4th, 2013
4:40 pm
What happened to Bob Packwood, Republican of Oregon, pretty much mirrored what happened to Brock Adams, Democrat of neighboring Washington state, in that same rough time frame.
Anybody arguing that either party is better or worse than the other on this kind of thing is just exposing his or her own partisan blindness.
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
4:43 pm
Our interests? What does that have to do with our government processes?
The government should always act in the best interest of its citizens. Unfortunately, our government tends to act in the best interest of whomever writes the largest campaign checks.
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Anybody arguing that either party is better or worse than the other on this kind of thing is just exposing his or her own partisan blindness.
Isn’t this the blog where everyone exposes their partisan blindness for all to see?
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
4:45 pm
DIAI consider myself a contrarian
I have my moments as well, if anything to see if someone has actually thought out their position all the way through…or if at all
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
4:45 pm
Jay
February 4th, 2013
4:40 pm
Amen. The GOP has set a new bar in DC..when the DEMS become the minority, I’d expect them to improve upon current GOP tactics….take them to the next level…
I do notice that with the current cluster that is the GOP today, we do enjoy more consistency in terms of embarassment from them.
Drudge
February 4th, 2013
4:45 pm
I’m sorry, but Obama shooting skeet in that photo is pretty funny. His form and command of the weapon is comical – my sister at 105lbs has more control authority. But alas, he is from Chicago (well, and Hawaii, Indonesia, Connecticut, NY etc) so it is like watching a Nebraskan surf.
Lets think of this – we reentered recession, UE is rising, debt rising, inflation up another .25% – and the POTUS is in Minnesota campaigning for some gun law that won’t pass either chamber. Forward!
Mr Right
February 4th, 2013
4:47 pm
Anybody arguing that either party is better or worse than the other on this kind of thing is just exposing his or her own partisan blindness
Well said Jay but coming from you, I’m surprised! A quick look over your blogs I would have never guessed it!
TaxPayer
February 4th, 2013
4:48 pm
As for models that do not work, that Scafetta dude is out there in the front of the pack with his creation. The red curve in Figure 1 should provide ample evidence. Then again, those deniers have to figure out some way to make their case.
DownInAlbany
February 4th, 2013
4:49 pm
Jay
February 4th, 2013
4:40 pm
Anybody arguing that either party is better or worse than the other on this kind of thing is just exposing his or her own partisan blindness.
I agree, though, I have to ask…why are your blogs always about the corruption on the R side? Goes without saying…your blog, your subject matter…just curious since you brought it up.
DownInAlbany
February 4th, 2013
4:52 pm
Drudge
February 4th, 2013
4:45 pm
the POTUS is in Minnesota campaigning for some gun law that won’t pass either chamber.
Exactly! Scary Harry even said he hasn’t even bothered to read Feinstein’s legislation.
Ralph-43
February 4th, 2013
4:52 pm
An arrogant Twit paid by the taxpayers. Next petition – impeachment. Next hiding spot – prison.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
February 4th, 2013
4:56 pm
Brosephus™
February 4th, 2013
4:43 pm
After our votes are counted, our interests are so subordinated its a joke. All we get is knee jerk, shallow crap sold in soundbites…
Get the private money out of DC…until that happens, I expect nothing but continued dysfunctional outcomes…whether spending 40% more than we take in or trying to make our kids safer by limiting clips to 10 per round..silly stuff really. Remember when Bush suggested an immigration plan that required all illegals to self deport, and return with 5K?
Re clips, seems to me limiting clips to 10 rounds will only result in shooters using guns in each hand….just kidding…kinda.
getalife
February 4th, 2013
4:57 pm
Fair minded Republicans are joining the majority.
If you can’t beat him join him.
DownInAlbany
February 4th, 2013
4:57 pm
Ralph-43
February 4th, 2013
4:52 pm
An arrogant Twit paid by the taxpayers. Next petition – impeachment. Next hiding spot – prison.
Has he done anything illegal?
getalife
February 4th, 2013
4:58 pm
The con in the bunker in Alabama is dead and the child is safe.
GT
February 4th, 2013
4:58 pm
I am with Jay, both sides are human, with human weakness.
I don’t want one party from either side, and I certainly dislike out of state influenced from Washington or lobbyist with special interest.
Some days I wake up surprised we are still here, it is a true wonder how this state government and its people survive the stupidity but it does. And that in its self is encouraging. Nobody is stopping me from my way of life, corrupt as they are they seem to contain it to their side of the street, amazing, and hope it always stays that way.
The real center of corruption and greed that breaths on this nation is Wall Street. The finest minds in this country think they are entitled to no risk and all reward because they are our finest minds. The state is too dumb to worry about and Wall Street too smart to control. The later will get us first.
Dixie Normous
February 4th, 2013
5:00 pm
Run and hide or appear on 60 Minutes and get softball, my how you do get along so well, comments like obama and hillary. They have much to answer for, but the leftwing political arm of the Democratic Party in the media, of which bookman is a part, will not ask any serious questions or demand answers for things they have done to cause so much damage to this country.
Dave
February 4th, 2013
5:01 pm
WSB channeling the old Sixty Minutes folks. I have no love for Heath or Rogers but how about spending the same amount of time digging into the real facts of the scandal.
Jay
February 4th, 2013
5:02 pm
DIA, there are several reasons for that. One is that the entire governing apparatus in the state of Georgia is Republican, so anything critical that I write on state topics can be viewed as anti-Republican even though I was probably equally hard on Georgia Democrats when they held all the power.
If you doubt that, you can go look it up if you wish. We were particularly hard on the D’s on issues such as ethics and transportation (strongly opposing the Outer Perimeter, for example, and pushing investment in transit instead). Speaker Murphy wouldn’t even speak to me.
On the national level, I happen to disagree very strongly with the modern Republican Party on just about everything that it does. Those are honest policy disagreements as well as disagreement about its basic no-compromise governing style, which I find dangerous. I make no apologies for any of that, and I express those differences in policy terms.
However, I don’t believe I have ever said or implied that Republicans are somehow inherently more corrupt than Democrats, because I do not believe that is true and never have.
DownInAlbany
February 4th, 2013
5:09 pm
Jay
February 4th, 2013
5:02 pm
Thanks Jay. I haven’t followed your blog very much until last fall…even though we emailed back and forth a couple of years ago…don’t recall the subject. I wasn’t on board when the Dems held power. I believe what you say, though. I was, just surprised, quite frankly and you repeated it:
I don’t believe I have ever said or implied that Republicans are somehow inherently more corrupt than Democrats, because I do not believe that is true and never have.
Have a good evening. Cheers!
Paul
February 4th, 2013
5:09 pm
“The con in the bunker in Alabama is dead and the child is safe.”
Thanks for the update, getalife.
Isn’t it something – those who view the need for all kinds of weapons because they think they need them to protect themselves from the government knocking on their door are the very ones who do something illegal and endanger the innocent, which guarantees the government will come knocking on their door.
So in conworld, they’ve proved their point.
Uh Huh...THIS AIN'T ABOUT OBAMA. Cons can RUN but you can't HIDE.
February 4th, 2013
5:10 pm
@Adam
February 4th, 2013
3:34 pm
If it were Democrat cronyism, the libs here would be falling all over themselves justifying it. At least most of us in the right can look at a pile of poop and say it stinks. Even if the poop has a R behind it’s name.
What a load of horse crap. Nice attempt at projection though.
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“If it were Democrat cronyism, the libs here would be falling all over themselves justifying it.”
IF “if” were a fifth we’d all be drunk including all of you CONS.
And you are mistakening if you think that Liberals would condone
cronyism. We are smarter and more intelligent than you give us
credit for.
We are not conning like you CONS.
getalife
February 4th, 2013
5:13 pm
“So in conworld, they’ve proved their point”
It is one less con but happy the little boy is okay.
Mr Right
February 4th, 2013
5:13 pm
However, I don’t believe I have ever said or implied that Republicans are somehow inherently more corrupt than Democrats, because I do not believe that is true and never have.
That’s good to know but we sure can’t tell by what you write!
R U Kidding Me?
February 4th, 2013
5:18 pm
1st Rule of Politics: Running from a TV news camera crew NEVER has a good outcome. I don’t care what it is that you’re being accused of, stopping and talking beats running away and looking like a fool any day of the week. “Yes Ms. Geary, that was me coming out of that hotel with 4 hookers. Next Question.” See, that’s so much better than running and hiding behind a copy machine.
2nd Rule of Politics: When the ship is sinking, NEVER jump on board. Heath is Chip Rogers’ little bitch. But Chips is toast. His career is OVER. So Bill, jumping on a sinking ship only means one thing. Enjoy your last term in the State Senate.
Lynnie Gal
February 4th, 2013
5:19 pm
That varmint Bill Heath needs to stick his head up out of his hole, look around, and realize who’s paying his salary. He can’t stay in his underground hideout forever. Come on out and face the people of Georgia, you coward!