Boy Scouts prepare to compromise on gay membership
Leaders of the Boy Scouts of America will vote this week on whether to ease the group’s long-standing, ironclad ban on allowing gay boys to become members and gay adults to serve as volunteers.
Under the proposal, organizations such as churches and civic clubs that sponsor Boy Scout troops and Cub Scout packs would be able to decide for themselves what policy to set. No local group would be forced to admit gay members and adults, in violation of its conscience or comfort zone; likewise, no group will be forced to ban or oust gay members and adults, which BSA policy now requires.
That seems like exactly the right compromise, given the range of geographic, religious and cultural communities that Scouting serves. After all, what works in Utah may not work in Minnesota. It also may not be as simple as it might sound — troops meet often in regional, state and even national events, creating the potential for continued cultural conflicts. However, part of the role of Scouting should be to teach young boys how to overcome such differences.
As a veteran of many a Scout jamboree, not to mention weekly meetings in dank church basements, I still feel a deep personal connection to and affection for the organization, and would welcome this important step forward. While others may not be as supportive, time does and must change things.
(Because some will ask, I got as far as Life Scout, one rank below Eagle, before our troop in suburban Pittsburgh fell apart quickly in what — in hindsight — may have been a covered-up abuse scandal. My military family was transferred to an airbase in Italy shortly thereafter, and that was the end of Scouting for my brother and I. But by then, to be honest, girls and other distractions had begun to pull my attention away anyway.)
– Jay Bookman
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Towncrier
February 4th, 2013
11:44 am
Lunch…
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
11:47 am
“Homosexuality is NOT an adaptation that contributes to the fitness and survival of the human species.”
neither does blue eyes or attached ear lobes or color blindness … yet, there they are.
Marty Huggins'
February 4th, 2013
11:48 am
USinUK – former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
11:47 am
Leave us color blind folks out of this.
Tom( Viet Vet-USAF)
February 4th, 2013
11:50 am
Unless the Boy Scouts are receiving federal funds, the President and other politicians should keep their mouth shut and let the PRIVATE enterprise and their supporters make that decision. By the way, I would make that same comment if Bush or Reagan were the President! Leave the gays alone to live in their own world but do not force us(who disagree with them) to interact with their lifestyle!
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
February 4th, 2013
11:50 am
In general, a 13yo boy and a 13yo girl (each straight) are hard-wired to want each other. With a 13yo gay boy and 13yo straight boy, this is not the case. Do you see the difference?
So only one gay boy allowed per troop?
Aquagirl
February 4th, 2013
11:51 am
Homosexuality is NOT an adaptation that contributes to the fitness and survival of the human species.
Why do some people think screaming “IS NOT!!!” constitutes a logical point?
And more importantly, is there a gene for this, and can we breed it out of humans?
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
11:53 am
“Leave us color blind folks out of this.”
hahaha … well what are YOU doing to help the species???!!! NOTHING, I tells ya!!! your ties and shirts don’t match – you’re actually holding the species back …
getalife
February 4th, 2013
11:53 am
tom,
CBS asked the question so our President’s answered.
Paul
February 4th, 2013
11:55 am
tom
I was getting all sorts of Facebook posts that was forwarded from conservative websites way before the President ever said a word about it.
the dog
February 4th, 2013
11:55 am
Tom-you are surrounded by gay folks and just do not know it. Are you really that narrow minded? According to your handle, you are former military. Do you think all your comapatriots were straight?
Marty Huggins'
February 4th, 2013
11:56 am
USinUK – former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
11:53 am
I have blue eyes too!!!
If I had attached ear lobes I would think you were calling me a freak.
My wife picks out my ties thank you very much!!!
With all the “gay” talk, I thank god I’m straight cause only he knows what would happen to me if I didn’t have a woman in my life.
DownInAlbany
February 4th, 2013
11:56 am
Tom( Viet Vet-USAF)
February 4th, 2013
11:50 am
Unless the Boy Scouts are receiving federal funds, the President and other politicians should keep their mouth shut and let the PRIVATE enterprise and their supporters make that decision. By the way, I would make that same comment if Bush or Reagan were the President! Leave the gays alone to live in their own world but do not force us(who disagree with them) to interact with their lifestyle!
But, Tom, it makes these folks feel soooo much better…supporting the Prez and all that he does. Of course, they shouldn’t be bothered about unemployment, $16 trillion in debt or a shrinking economy! They would much rather focus on peripheral issues such as gays in Scouts. It deflects from the failed administration they so worship!
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
11:56 am
“Leave the gays alone to live in their own world but do not force us(who disagree with them) to interact with their lifestyle!”
(and I’m sure he feels EXACTLY the same way about girl-on-girl action, too)
DannyX
February 4th, 2013
11:57 am
“Homosexuality is NOT an adaptation that contributes to the fitness and survival of the human species.”
Google “Men with older brothers more likely to be gay.”
Being gay could be a natural population control. The study shows sexual orientation is probably determined prenatal.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 4th, 2013
11:58 am
Towncrier — “How stupid.”
Your position certainly is.
“Homosexuality is NOT an adaptation that contributes to the fitness and survival of the human species. To therefore support it, AS YOU DO, is ILLOGICAL (not the mutations, ROFL).”
Rejected and denied.
Not all adaptations, as you put it, ‘contribute to the fitness and survival of the human species.’ That’s a common misconception held by those who lack even an elementary understanding of the actual mechanisms in play with regard to speciation. But please, do go on demonstrating your poor understanding of the topic.
And, Towncrier, you don’t get to assert what I do and don’t support. You’re unable to read my mind and you haven’t been given permission to speak for me in any event.
DannyX
February 4th, 2013
11:59 am
President Obama has nothing to do with the Boy Scouts decision. He has a right to voice his opinion just like anyone else. The Supreme Court already ruled on the issue.
What do you guys have against the 1st Amendment?
Bhorsoft
February 4th, 2013
11:59 am
There was one in Vinceza when I went through there a couple of years back. However, you have to factor in the dates/time that Jay was there.
I’m betting our times were close. I was in Izmir in the early 70s. School is closed now as it is now an unaccompanied tour. Seems like everything went to Adana since the Gulf Wars.
Mick
February 4th, 2013
12:00 pm
down in
Makes you feel a lot better yourself with the typical con narrative about president obama, correct? Nobody that I know is “worshipping” him but we do have a lot of sympathy for the man knowing full well that he has to deal with the looney tune faction in the house whereby the idea of actually governing, is a foreign exercise…
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
12:01 pm
Marty – “With all the “gay” talk, I thank god I’m straight cause only he knows what would happen to me if I didn’t have a woman in my life.”
but, if you were gay, your partner may have even better dress sense than your wife!
Doggone/GA
February 4th, 2013
12:01 pm
“Since homosexuals cannot naturally PROCREATE, genius, how does such a “variation” promote the survival of our species?””
Actually they can, just not with each other. And “survival” of our species is just as dependent on the existence of the availablity of “Aunts/Uncles” as are such species as wolves. Aunts/Uncles are generally non-breeding members who nevertheless contribute to the continuation of their “pack” – and thus their species – by assisting the breeding members to more effectively raise their young to adulthood and potential breeding status.
Adam
February 4th, 2013
12:02 pm
Towncrier: It’s a consistent mutation, to put it as close to laymen’s terms as I possibly can. It requires much more than basic genetic grade school knowledge to truly understand the concept of where it comes from. If you want your answer, you’re going to have to consult with people who actually study genetics for a living. But I suspect you don’t actually want an answer, and wrongly think that my inability or unwillingness to explain it to you is a failure of the entire argument somehow.
Read up on it if you want to know your answer. This is truly a situation in which I would have to explain so much to you just to get you up to speed that it’s not worth my time.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 4th, 2013
12:04 pm
Here’s a good read on the subject…
http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jun/born-gay
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
12:05 pm
“And “survival” of our species is just as dependent on the existence of the availablity of “Aunts/Uncles” as are such species as wolves. ”
and elephants, lions and other societal animals
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Adam
February 4th, 2013
12:05 pm
Homosexuality is NOT an adaptation that contributes to the fitness and survival of the human species.
And as you should know if you had more than a basic understanding of Darwin and evolution, that is not an absolute of evolution. Mutations don’t create themselves to naturally move the species forward in fitness and survival. Mutations are random, and only the “hard mutations” that happen to enhance survival and fitness, at random, can be said to be the things that remain, but only AFTER the other mutations that didn’t create adaptation die off.
Homosexuality is not a mutation as commonly understood. It is a mutation that is persistent regardless of survival or fitness of the entire race, and remains a small part of the population.
bookman parrot
February 4th, 2013
12:05 pm
we must end exclusion in every place, every way, every form….
but
i think a more important place to start is breaking the barrier of only idiots are
allowed in the BHO admin (starting with BHO himself) and start letting in some folks with common sense LOL
Aquagirl
February 4th, 2013
12:05 pm
neither does blue eyes or attached ear lobes or color blindness
Actually the common red-green color blindness is probably adaptive to populations. It also might produce tetrachromic people (mostly female) who are able to see variations in color most of us can’t, and that might be adaptive in some way.
And yeah, knowing that means I probably have a nerd gene.
Regnad Kcin
February 4th, 2013
12:06 pm
“Homosexuality is NOT an adaptation that contributes to the fitness and survival of the human species.”
This is not necessarily true. Why do you think so?
Doggone/GA
February 4th, 2013
12:08 pm
“How stupid. Homosexuality is NOT an adaptation that contributes to the fitness and survival of the human species”
and yet…any attribute that does not actively contribute to the extinction of a species, can and will, be “carried along in the genetic code. And you are reconning without the effects of possible chemical changes made to the activation of genes, which can occur during pregnancy.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
12:09 pm
“And yeah, knowing that means I probably have a nerd gene.”
the mister and I totally got our nerd on last night watching Brian Cox do a lecture at the Royal Society last night (love me some BBC!!) …
Thomas
February 4th, 2013
12:11 pm
Manti te’o’s girl uh boy uh catfish whatever said on Dr. Phil that he is trying to correct his homosexuality. This was said on Dr. Phil so it must be true. Homosexuality is therefore learned and not one is not born with this “disease”.
On a serious note Jay- you are a Penn State alum, correct? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on PSU football camps with regard to the Boy Scout “compromise”- it would seem to me that it is a fundamental sexual predator issue regardless of sexual orientation-
Doggone/GA
February 4th, 2013
12:12 pm
“and elephants, lions and other societal animals”
Yep, them too!
Mick
February 4th, 2013
12:15 pm
Kind of sad news to read about our record setting sniper being shot and killed himself. I guess its a case of live by the gun, die by the gun…
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
12:17 pm
“Kind of sad news to read about our record setting sniper being shot and killed himself. I guess its a case of live by the gun, die by the gun…”
gosh, if ONLY there was a “good guy with a gun” around, then this couldn’t have happened … oh, wait … nevermind.
DannyX
February 4th, 2013
12:17 pm
“and elephants, lions and other societal animals”
6,000 years ago when humans were roaming around the earth with dinosaurs, the fear was that gay marriage would eventually lead to human + dinosaur marriage.
Aquagirl
February 4th, 2013
12:18 pm
love me some BBC!
And you get the non-’Mericanized version…..I have TV envy.
getalife
February 4th, 2013
12:18 pm
Gay marriage killed the dinosaurs.
Tom( Viet Vet-USAF)
February 4th, 2013
12:19 pm
Dog & USinUK- Look, whatever consenting adults wish to do with each other is their own business, as long as no children are involved! But do not try to force things upon us. It makes me wonder if Pres Obama was asked about this issue as Getalife says, why was not former President’s Bush or Reagan asked also. Dog, to be completely honest, it was a different world back then. It would have been very dangerous for a gay person to come out. That does not necessarily make it right, but that was just the way it was in the real world then. Some of you folks(as Bill would say) mean well but live in fantasy worlds.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 4th, 2013
12:19 pm
Adam — “And as you should know if you had more than a basic understanding of Darwin and evolution, that is not an absolute of evolution. Mutations don’t create themselves to naturally move the species forward in fitness and survival.”
Towncrier’s misunderstanding of this point and his apparent belief that mutations must of necessity be positive drivers in any species’ advancement and survival is — and I hate to say this — congruent with same misunderstanding that some Intelligent Design adherents seem to have with evolution.
Some ID adherents I’ve spoken with before demonstrate that same misunderstanding — they’ve told me that since they believe god to be behind all biological changes, that only ‘godly’ changes can actually be attributed to evolution — therefore, only obviously beneficial ones are actually the product of evolution. Speciation or changes that *don’t* appear to result in benefits or which can’t be reconciled with the group’s notion of ‘godliness’ therefore, by definition can’t actually be evolutionary in nature — they have to be due to something else.
Since Towncrier seems to be arguing a closely related point, I suspect that he might just be an ID adherent himself.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 4th, 2013
12:22 pm
getalife — “Gay marriage killed the dinosaurs”
Was there not a Far Side or a similar cartoon that conjectured just this very thing?
getalife
February 4th, 2013
12:22 pm
tom.
It was not a issue with other Presidents silly.
You need to work on that emotionally charged knee jerk reaction.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
12:22 pm
“the fear was that gay marriage would eventually lead to human + dinosaur marriage”
there you go … if gay marriage is outlawed, only mammoths will marry.
um.
or something.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
12:24 pm
Tom – “But do not try to force things upon us.”
oh, grow the eff up … no one is making you participate. or watch. or even agree with it. you’re entitled to your own opinion on the matter, but you’re not entitled to deny someone their basic human rights because of your opinion.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
12:25 pm
Aqua – if you are truly a nerdling, then look up Brian Cox …
at any rate, here is a bit of what we watched
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QboBGoAuf8A
getalife
February 4th, 2013
12:25 pm
“Was there not a Far Side or a similar cartoon that conjectured just this very thing?”
Probably but I was never molested by scout leaders but did get a very creepy feeling when my Catholic priest ashed me to be a alter boy.
Marty Huggins'
February 4th, 2013
12:26 pm
USinUK – former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
12:01 pm
It’s more than just the ability to coordinate my dashing good looks with trend setting fashion….
As tough as I act when I get sick or hurt I’m a big baby and only the loving touch of a woman can do in those times.
Anyway no matter how fabulous a dude is still a dude. As much as I love my boys I can only be around my friends for so long not to mention every day for the rest of my life.
I know it you know us boys are stupid and we say and talk about dumb things. We all know if left alone for longer than a week or a weekend if Vegas, south beach etc and our friends will hurt us or we will hurt our friends. Something about Y chromosomes. Against regardless of how fabulous.
Always needed the ladies to keep me calm and safe!
stands for decibels
February 4th, 2013
12:26 pm
I’ll take my low cost retirement fund over paying out more than I keep over my lifetime anyday.
Thank you for ruining my day.
DannyX
February 4th, 2013
12:27 pm
Governor Rick Perry of Texas said a few days ago the Boy Scouts should keep the gay ban. He has just as much right to express his opinion as Obama. Its not a bfd.
GT
February 4th, 2013
12:28 pm
First you lock in on this being a choice, then the right says that since it is a choice it is a sin. If you have a handicap God created it, so it can’t be a sin so you slick thinkers make it a sin so you can hate gay legally or religiously, no difference to you between law and religion.
I am just saying being an idiot is a choice. You are an idiot thus you are a sinner and should not be allowed to marry, or join a church or have children or pick cotton or whatever you idiots come up with. And most of all you shouldn’t have idiots connected with the American Boy Scouts says so right on the package.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
12:29 pm
“As tough as I act when I get sick or hurt I’m a big baby and only the loving touch of a woman can do in those times.”
my darling, we XX-ers call that “man flu”
Stevie Ray
February 4th, 2013
12:29 pm
Adam
February 4th, 2013
12:05 pm
So if I refer to one as a mutant, this is not necessarily a libelous statement…perhaps a complement as compared to one who hasn’t mutated?
Stevie Ray
February 4th, 2013
12:30 pm
As long as the BSA doesn’t require celebacy thingy, I don’t think we have much to worry about.
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
12:31 pm
Did Erwin’s cat morph into Towncrier or just disappear into the box ?
No I had a meeting and getting ready to head to the west coast…catch you cats tomorrow
Marty Huggins'
February 4th, 2013
12:31 pm
USinUK – former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
12:29 pm
It’s worse than the normal flu I’m telling you I’ve had it!
Tom( Viet Vet-USAF)
February 4th, 2013
12:32 pm
getalife – So it is only an issue with this President, now I understand, thank you. As far as knee- jerking, not really, only reason I am on this blog today is that I’m kinda bored. Nothing to do until gym-time later! Got to keep up with my hero, Spartacus! Did you think I was going to say my hero was Obama, sorry dude or dudette(whichever applies).
alex
February 4th, 2013
12:32 pm
@ Corbin, thanks for the link, recently read about another more recent study that concluded that more “feminine” men are more likely to find women mates and to proxcreate more often, ,the more “masculine” women are more aggressive and are able to find more male mates. It is when a series of combinations of various genes are combined that homosexuality occurrs. Expression of a limited number of these genes allows for the heterosexual-”more likely to procreate ” characteristics to predominatre… This agrees with your article reporting on studies where there are homosexuals and the overall profundity of the family is increased, interesting material…..
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
12:32 pm
“So if I refer to one as a mutant, this is not necessarily a libelous statement…perhaps a complement as compared to one who hasn’t mutated?”
can I be Dr. Jean Gray?
barking frog
February 4th, 2013
12:34 pm
An epiphany for me, Barney the dog influenced the
world more than I will, in all likelihood.
DannyX
February 4th, 2013
12:34 pm
“I am just saying being an idiot is a choice.”
Yes but remember, “Love the idiot, hate the idiocy”… or something like that.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 4th, 2013
12:34 pm
S. Ray — “So if I refer to one as a mutant, this is not necessarily a libelous statement…perhaps a complement as compared to one who hasn’t mutated?”
Depends on how well you know the mutant to whom you are speaking, I suppose.
For example, you should probably be good friends with this guy before calling him a mutant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_(character)
RB from Gwinnett
February 4th, 2013
12:34 pm
Hey Jay. This is off topic, but maybe you could do some actual journalism work with this for a change…
What exactly has the NFL said is wrong with our stadium that needs to be corrected before we get another “big game”? I keep hearing they don’t like our GA Dome, but I never hear exactly what it is they don’t like. They gave the game to a twice-as-old Superdome, so age and a lack of a retractable roof can’t be it. What is it? Without that list, aren’t we in danger of building a new stadium that has the same issues?
And will the Falcons guarantee they’ll never threaten to leave Atlanta until the stadium is paid for?
stands for decibels
February 4th, 2013
12:35 pm
Shorter Towncrier:
Bad mutation! no biscuit!
getalife
February 4th, 2013
12:35 pm
tom,
I am a dude but they usually ask Presidents about the today’s issues . He answered the question and you had the typical con knee jerk reaction.
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
12:36 pm
““Love the idiot, hate the idiocy””
I prefer “love the idiot, educate the idiocy” … which is why so many of us are here, trying to do what we can.
barking frog
February 4th, 2013
12:37 pm
Whenever you see the word Church read Control, pretty much
the same.
ATL Born and Raised
February 4th, 2013
12:38 pm
What exactly has the NFL said is wrong with our stadium that needs to be corrected before we get another “big game”?
It’s in Atlanta.
alex
February 4th, 2013
12:39 pm
On a very simple level, consider sickle cell mutation, :1 gene increases survival because of a resisdence to malaria, but 2 genes causes sickle cell anemia and relatively early death…..Thus the gene in question is maintaine in the gene pool..
indigo
February 4th, 2013
12:39 pm
USinUK
Are you saying you’re a switch hitter?
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
12:39 pm
RB – And will the Falcons guarantee they’ll never threaten to leave Atlanta until the stadium is paid for?
The falcons and AB never made that threat…Kasim Reed made the statement internally
DannyX
February 4th, 2013
12:39 pm
“I prefer “love the idiot, educate the idiocy””
How’s that working out with Towncrier???
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
12:40 pm
indigo – ?
USinUK - former Girl Scout
February 4th, 2013
12:42 pm
danny – “never try to teach a pig to tap dance – it just frustrates you and irritates the pig”
Erwin's cat
February 4th, 2013
12:44 pm
What exactly has the NFL said is wrong with our stadium that needs to be corrected before we get another “big game”?
It’s or will be too old…
and before you point to the superdome, it just got a $750M refurb
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 4th, 2013
12:45 pm
JB: This is off topic, but maybe you could do some actual journalism work with this for a change
Because when you start off insulting the host, I am sure they just have ooooodles of desire to help you out.
Why do so many of the posters who show no respect for Jay continue to visit daily? I have no respect for Hannity. I have no desire to visit his website, to read his inane comments or to do anything to support him.
Joe Hussein Mama
February 4th, 2013
12:45 pm
RB — “What exactly has the NFL said is wrong with our stadium that needs to be corrected before we get another “big game”?”
Not enough grease for NFL bigwigs’ palms, I suspect.
Aquagirl
February 4th, 2013
12:46 pm
at any rate, here is a bit of what we watched
Wow, actual quantum mechanics? Here they just would have screened “The Secret.”
getalife
February 4th, 2013
12:48 pm
These slow news days are getting old.
Where are the scandals and vast rw conspiracy?
RB from Gwinnett
February 4th, 2013
12:51 pm
Interesting replies all, but shouldn’t we all be able to answer that question before a billion dollars is spent replacing a stadium there is nothing wrong with? And where is the media demanding answers from Deal, Reed, and everybody else before we spend a dime? No memo from the NFL, no quotes from anybody at the NFL, no nothing but some unofficial comments saying the NFL won’t give us the game without a new stadium. It makes no sense.
And if a “refurb” gets the Superdome the game, “refurb” the GA Dome to fix whatever is on this mythical list nobody can produce.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
February 4th, 2013
12:54 pm
well, it’s a step. Let’s be patient, and support them.
The adults have a hard job coping with all this.
I think I blew the scoutmaster here’s mind when he asked me what
a reeeeal indian boy would take with him on a campout.
and I answered ‘probably his mother.’
alex
February 4th, 2013
12:58 pm
@ erwin, who paid for the “refurb”? in NO…Nagin’s buddies??
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
February 4th, 2013
12:59 pm
Crier — FYI, my sisterS-in-Laws are 2 women married to each other and they have a child. Either one of them could’ve had it since they both are biologically capable of doing it. Being a homosexual does not mean that you can’t have children. I’m surprised you think it would. seriously.
==============
That little thing has a mind of its own, and goes up or down not on any choice of its owner.
Can’t remember who posted this, but that “little thing” has a BIG thing that supposed to be able to reason and calculate certain responses.
I’m sure all of us married folk, or unmarried folk — whatever, have been sexually attracted to someone other than our spouses; however we didn’t all act upon that attraction. We weighed the costs of fidelity vs. years in divorce court splitting up assets and/or breaking up a cohesive family for a couple of hours of pleasure; we weighed the costs and decided NOT to follow our baser instincts.
Blaming that “little head” on all the things the “big head decides to do”, is unfair. All those little heads out there are going to form their own political movement and come back to haunt you for mislabeling them as the offenders when its really that BIG HEAD that gets them into trouble.
Little heads of America – Unite!! And join as one! (<<<<=== the visual of that, just made me laugh a little bit)
getalife
February 4th, 2013
1:00 pm
We took a camping trip 50 miles on the Brazoz river in a canoe.
The problem was a drought dried up the river so we carried the canoe most of the way.
It was still fun and part of growing up to be a man in Texas was being a Scout.
Tom( Viet Vet-USAF)
February 4th, 2013
1:03 pm
USinUK@12:24 – I don’t ever really want to completely grow up, it would then become foolish to get on Jay’s blog and discuss views with his minions(misspelled, I think, sorry). It’s kinda fun to know you folks are out there, somewhere! You really shouldn’t get your panties wet by using a term like”eff up” though. That was classless and I always thought you liberals placed a great value on the Class of citizens?
guy
February 4th, 2013
1:05 pm
Donovan, you cannot disagree with the liberals that respond here. They think you are a radical but at the same time they call you a jackass. You are wasting your time but at least you are trying. You are not a jackass either! That’s uncalled for even if you agree or disagree on here.
Adam
February 4th, 2013
1:06 pm
So if I refer to one as a mutant, this is not necessarily a libelous statement…perhaps a complement as compared to one who hasn’t mutated?
Connotation, as the general population understands it, is what must be considered.
Adam
February 4th, 2013
1:07 pm
And for the record:
1) No one has said the Superdome needs anything to get another Superbowl
2) The taxpayers of the entire country paid for the upgrades, because of threats to move the Saints elsewhere if the feds didn’t pony up.
Granny Godzilla
February 4th, 2013
1:09 pm
DDR @ 12:59
AS they say “Boys will be Boys”
As I Granny says “They can be fixed”
getalife
February 4th, 2013
1:10 pm
We could use a new 1.2 billion dome.
The 49 ers are building a new stadium and will get the Super Bowl.
getalife
February 4th, 2013
1:12 pm
As I Granny says “They can be fixed”
My exes would disagree.
Granny Godzilla
February 4th, 2013
1:14 pm
getalife
take it as a compliment – they probably wanted to leave “well enough” alone!
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 4th, 2013
1:14 pm
Tom( Viet Vet-USAF)
February 4th, 2013
1:03 pm
Tom,
Get over it. You were rightfully put in your place. And I doubt you really care what value Liberals put on anything.
alex
February 4th, 2013
1:14 pm
@ Adam, so you say the federal govt. paid for the upgrade in NO, say it ain’t so, please….
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
February 4th, 2013
1:15 pm
ALEX,
I’m glad you enjoyed the article…
Cosby
February 4th, 2013
1:17 pm
Brosephus..Lincoln cared nothing about the black race..he, infact, believed the two races would never get along. He was, however, responsible for the bloddest war this country has ever experienced – over $700,000 lives – equate that to 5,000,000 as a percentage of todays population – he was also responsible for many of those deaths as he was a micro manager and knew what was going on in the battle field as well as the raping and piligaging by the Norther army – including blacks who he cared nothing about. Lincoln shattered the constitution by using military might and could have prevented such savagery. After the war, he was responsible for keeping the South in poverty, including blacks of the South. the whole argument about Lincoln freeing slaves was a political ploy to gain support for such savagery. the emancipation proclamation only freed some slaves, not all and it even kept those in certain Louisiana Parishes in slavery due to Lincoln rewarding some of his rich norther benefactors that were absentee slave holders…Lincoln was not the great person the press and folks such as yourself make him out to be.
Tom( Viet Vet-USAF)
February 4th, 2013
1:21 pm
Debbie@12:59 – “A couple hours of pleasure”! We love you but you must have a serious problem with over-estimation issues! But interesting post, right on target, for all of us(cons and libs)!
Stevie Ray
February 4th, 2013
1:22 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
February 4th, 2013
12:34 pm
Classic
Re Falcons, seems to me that the majority of NFL towns will never get a Superbowl….I’m not sure one can argue against Blanks math but what exactly to do we do with perfectly comfortable and loud, at least during winning seasons, Dome?
How certain is it that the additional hotel tax etcetera will generate reciepts suggested?
Why not simply install retractible sun roof in GA Dome?
indigo
February 4th, 2013
1:23 pm
USinUK – 12:40
Swing both ways?
Tom( Viet Vet-USAF)
February 4th, 2013
1:24 pm
Corbin@1:14 – “Can’t we all just get along”?
Stevie Ray
February 4th, 2013
1:26 pm
Cosby
February 4th, 2013
1:17 pm
Guess it depends on who is writing the particular history of choice, president of comparison, and whether the outcome was a good thing despite his feelings or motives at the time.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
February 4th, 2013
1:27 pm
As I Granny says “They can be fixed”
Lorena Bobbit sure tired to do her part!!
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Tom – I DID say a couple of hour didn’t i? Forgive me – I’m female so I automatically think that any tryst would happen more than once. I forgot about SOME male’s penchant for loving the one night stand. My apologies!