On immigration, it’s not just about the Latino vote
In the weeks ahead, the Republican Party is going to have itself a fine debate over immigration, with Florida Sen. Marco Rubio more or less betting his presidential ambitions on winning the argument. If he can’t convince enough Republicans to join him, his de facto support for amnesty will become a cannon ball chained to his leg in the race for the 2016 GOP nomination.
Personally, I hope Rubio is successful, because his success would mean that we actually accomplish something and put this problem behind us. But I have serious doubts.
His fellow Republican senator, David Vitter of Louisiana, this week called Rubio’s stance on immigration “nuts” and “amazingly naive,” all the while expressing his enormous admiration for his Florida colleague. House Republicans, a good indicator of the sentiment of the GOP base, don’t seem ready at all to embrace the Rubio solution. The editors at National Review dismissed it as well this week in a piece headlined “A Pointless Amnesty”:
“Call it ‘regularization,’ call it a ‘path to citizenship,’ it amounts to precisely the same thing: a decision to set aside the law and to ignore its violation.”
The folks at National Review also argue that “the idea that an amnesty is going to put Latinos squarely in the GOP tent is a fantasy.” Framed in those terms, they’re right. There are no conceivable circumstances in which the Latino vote is going to end up “squarely in the GOP tent.” However, a cessation of active hostility might, just might, allow the party to compete for some of those votes in the future.
The realization that the Latino vote might not be a natural GOP constituency after all has become a popular theme on the right, but it reflects a typically narrow way of thinking about the issue. Its implications for the overall GOP brand are much broader.
In a new CBS poll released this week, 71 percent of Americans say they support allowing illegal immigrants to remain here, with 51 percent saying they would support a path to citizenship. Only 24 percent of Americans take the GOP position that those immigrants must somehow be required to return home.
In other words, the GOP’s political problem on this issue is not by any means limited to Hispanic Americans. The GOP position toward the Latino minority mirrors its historic animosity to gay rights, affirmative action, minority voting protections, the Equal Rights Amendment for women and similar issues.
Each of those groups listens to GOP rhetoric on the Latino issue and it hears a powerful reminder of GOP indifference to its own struggles. If the GOP ends up scuttling comprehensive immigration reform, those non-Latino voters will view it as confirmation that the Grand Old Party isn’t changing, and that it has every intention of being more old than grand.
And unfortunately, they will be right to think that way.
– Jay Bookman
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Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
6:30 pm
“These same people bring up their Christian faith, some of them daily. I also want to know how they reconcile blowing up fellow Christians trying to cross the border with their faith.”
As far as I can tell, anyone living in a state of unrepentant sin (such as a married man having a “mistress” on the side, knowingly using stolen merchandise, living in a country illegally and so on) is not a Christian.
Lucky, Fortunate, Blessed -- tell that to my parent's sacrifice, my student loans, my many years of undergrad, grad, and professional school...
January 31st, 2013
6:32 pm
The free Obama phone is a program designed to assist less fortunate Americans who cannot afford access to a cell phone. The Federal Lifeline program helps low income families have access to land lines and make emergency phone calls.
Lucky, Fortunate, Blessed -- tell that to my parent's sacrifice, my student loans, my many years of undergrad, grad, and professional school...
January 31st, 2013
6:33 pm
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■Food Stamps
■Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)
■Medicaid
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■Health Benefit Coverage under Child Health Insurance Plan (CHIP)
■The National School Lunch Program
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■If you are a low income eligible resident of tribal lands
■Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF)
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
6:36 pm
“Obama said during a campaign stop in Council Bluffs, Iowa. “All we’re saying is after that, maybe you can do a little bit more to help pay down this deficit and invest in things like education that help our economy grow.”
Investing in education is going to help our economy grow? We already spend more per capita on it than just about everyone else. May if we quadruple or “investment” and click our heels 3 times, our economy will really start growing. Or maybe – just thinking outside the box here – if we stop spewing BS out of our mouths and really tried to solve some problems instead or promote an ideology, that might work too.
Soothsayer
January 31st, 2013
6:43 pm
The Republican dilemma.
DownInAlbany
January 31st, 2013
6:47 pm
Forgive me for revisiting an earlier blog, but, it’s usually a free for all by now anyway…concerning the GOAL scholarship program. I received a letter from the local private school of choice touting the value of GOAL to that school. Some highlights from the letter: 4th year of participation, 45 students, represented in nearly every grade, cum gpa 3.36, all remained eligible for next year, number one GOAL school last year, received awards for responsible use of the program.
The last sentence reads: “If you have questions about this program, how DWS implements it, the kind of students that GOAL allows us to enroll, or any other aspect of the program, please call me personally and we can visit by phone or in person.”
This is, with little doubt, one of the best college prep school in the state, outside of metro Atlanta. If you knew anything about the county schools here, it might give you a different perspective. I agree wholeheartedly about transparency and accountability, but, I know of nothing but good things that GOAL has allowed this school to do. They have used it to rescue some kids from a really bad public system.
F. Sinkwich
January 31st, 2013
6:49 pm
“Investing in education is going to help our economy grow?”
Perhaps, on the margins at best. If people were really serious about this, only loans provided to students majoring in STEM, business, etc., whom actually could contribute to economic vitality would insist that only they would recieve any kind of government funding or subsidy, we might have an education policy that would mean something.
HOPE, Pell, etc., for Psych, English Lit, Law, History majors and such is a waste. They should be eliminated immeditely if not sooner.
If “Skeets” O’bozo was at all interested in growing the economy, he would focus on doing everything he could to generate CHEAP energy, the fuel of prosperity. Not Solyndra, POS Volts but oil, coal, and gas. But he just doesn’t care.
Dixie Normous
January 31st, 2013
6:56 pm
Bookman doesnt want to have anything to do with the fact the NRAs plan to end school violence WORKED in Atlanta. He would never be able to admit the NRA is right. He would die first.
The headline:
Atlanta School Shooting Update: Armed officer working at middle school disarmed suspect, says chief
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
6:56 pm
“If “Skeets” O’bozo was at all interested in growing the economy…”
LOL. You don’t really think the good president lies about things, do you?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/30/obama-keet-shooting-all-time-hardly-sources-say/#ixzz2JVcSeyMG
getalife
January 31st, 2013
6:59 pm
Our President’s legacy includes passing health care, immigration and financial reforms.
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
6:59 pm
“Atlanta School Shooting Update: Armed officer working at middle school disarmed suspect, says chief”
That would represent to Jay and his ilk an inconvenient truth and so no mention need be made of it.
getalife
January 31st, 2013
7:00 pm
ODS much cracker jack.
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
7:01 pm
“Our President’s legacy includes passing health care, immigration and financial reforms.”
If you think he is good as a president, you should have seen him as a community organizer!
F. Sinkwich
January 31st, 2013
7:05 pm
“Our President’s legacy includes passing health care, immigration and financial reforms.’
His immigration “legacy” was an executive order bypassing the law. The other two travesties are cratering our economy. See 4Q performance.
But thanks for demonstrating lib ilk ignorance!
Thomas
January 31st, 2013
7:05 pm
OK- we lit our hair on fire for 8 years about terrorism to appease Bush/Cheney. We have been lighting our hair on fire about a number of issues over the last few years.
Now that we are in the throw of guns and immigration let’s get those lighters out and get ahead of the curve. Key here is to look for a very static, 100 year issue, and make it dynamic. I see education bubbling up- we must act now on education! We need more funding! We need a Czar!! We need congressional hearings!! The other side hates education!!! Vitriol, cross hairs, they are unhinged I tell you
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
7:10 pm
“His immigration “legacy” was an executive order bypassing the law.”
Passing, bypassing – what’s the difference? I think Obama and his minions would all say “It’s all good”.
getalife
January 31st, 2013
7:10 pm
filky,
As usual, you don’t know what you are talking about.
indigo
January 31st, 2013
7:11 pm
That Black Guy – 6:22 “they should not be protected”
Freedom of speech exists, then and now.
Therefore, they ARE protected.
getalife
January 31st, 2013
7:14 pm
That Hagel hearing showed how unhinged the gop really are.
The surge?
What a joke the gop have become.
I urge them to resign in disgrace.
Our country can do better than the gop.
indigo
January 31st, 2013
7:15 pm
Dixie Normous, Crazy Cracker
Unfortunately, the shooter was disarmend AFTER he shot the student.
I guess you two just forgot to mention that.
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
7:15 pm
According to crazy cracker, sinners can’t be Christians. Interesting. Vewwwwwwy interesting. How many Christians would that leave populating this here planet.
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
7:15 pm
Is Twitter the medium of twits?
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
7:19 pm
“According to crazy cracker, sinners can’t be Christians.”
Unrepentant sinners – you know, like the drunk who keeps beating up his wife and saying “sorry” but never really changing?
“Interesting. Vewwwwwwy interesting. How many Christians would that leave populating this here planet.”
Recognize this statement?
“Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.”
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
7:21 pm
I thought that Christianity only required one to accept the Lord as your savior. I don’t recall any other requirements, including answering to any lowly humanoid lifeform.
Paul
January 31st, 2013
7:22 pm
Keep Up
” the only thing missing are those smart mines that keep the fetus alive when the pregnant “illegal” comes in to have that anchor baby.”
So we have conservative anti-abortion Christians here willing to kill unborn children (was I supposed to capitalize that?) because their mothers decide to go where they aren’t supposed to go?
Wow, I missed a lot today.
Somehow, I think I’m better off for it.
indigo
January 31st, 2013
7:23 pm
Crazy Cracker – “enter through the narrow gate”
Guess what?
No one has the slightest idea who actually wrote that.
n
January 31st, 2013
7:24 pm
What’s happening at the Political Insider?
You have to register and reveal your ID & demographics to comment?
Is it going to happen here in the formerly safe haven of the Bookman blog?
No more speaking truth to power under the protection of anonymity?
I guess Big Brother needs to know who we are in case we cross a line.
Have I already crossed the line? Who knows. Gulp.
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
7:25 pm
Some of these so-called Christians must be writing their scriptures on the fly… and changing them on a whim, to suit the moment.
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
7:27 pm
“I thought that Christianity only required one to accept the Lord as your savior. I don’t recall any other requirements, including answering to any lowly humanoid lifeform.”
Really? Where did you hear that – the Internet (thinking of the State Farm commercial here)?
Paul
January 31st, 2013
7:34 pm
Taxpayer 7:21
“I thought that Christianity only required one to accept the Lord as your savior. I don’t recall any other requirements”
That’s the American evangelical Protestant version of Christianity.
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
7:34 pm
“Some of these so-called Christians must be writing their scriptures on the fly… and changing them on a whim, to suit the moment.”
And then some people talk off the top of their heads:
“But unless you repent, you too will all perish.”
“Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.”
“Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”
“First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds.”
“What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.
But someone may well say, “You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.”You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected; and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “AND ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS,” and he was called the friend of God. You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. In the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 31st, 2013
7:40 pm
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.”
Notice that baptism, church membership, tithing, communion, indulgences, laying on of hands, etc., etc., etc., is missing.
Anything added to that for purposes of salvation is apostacy/false doctrine.
DownInAlbany
January 31st, 2013
7:40 pm
indigo
January 31st, 2013
7:15 pm
Dixie Normous, Crazy Cracker
Unfortunately, the shooter was disarmend AFTER he shot the student.
I guess you two just forgot to mention that.
Did you mention that this all occurred in a “gun free zone”?
Paul
January 31st, 2013
7:42 pm
gosh, wish I could stick around and watch Towncrier and Conservative Christian show up and read Crazy’s 7:27 and 7:34. Oh well, it’ll be fun later.
Christian Mud Wrestling tonight, at Jay’s!
Jack ®
January 31st, 2013
7:42 pm
Take an illegal home for supper. Put your piety where your mouth is.
Paul
January 31st, 2013
7:43 pm
Oh goody, 0311’s here.
You got point on this, 0311.
Crazy, get ready to repel boarders!!!!
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
7:45 pm
So now crazy crackers is saying that “whoever believes and is baptized shall be saved” means “whoever believes and is not baptized is not saved”. Which verse is that in your revisionist scriptures, crazy cracker.
josef
January 31st, 2013
7:46 pm
PAUL
Wow! You’re spoiling for a fight tonight!
Paul
January 31st, 2013
7:47 pm
Hey Crazy, you might wanna lead with Mark 16:6 where Jesus gives His final words just before the Ascension the apostles asked Him what they should do and he told them to go into all the world and preach the gospel, and everyone who believes AND IS BAPTIZED shall be saved…)
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
7:48 pm
I agree with Paul, Scout and crazy cracker could have fun with this one.
barking frog
January 31st, 2013
7:50 pm
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.”
………………………………………………………………………….
once you have that eternal life you must live righteously
or you will be judged by Jesus and sent to Hell to live it
eternally according to the NT.
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
7:51 pm
“Anything added to that for purposes of salvation is apostacy/false doctrine.”
No…I think reducing “belief” to mere mental assent is “apostacy/false doctrine.” For it simply cannot be denied that repentance is a requirement of salvation. So, if “belief” therefore includes repentance, then it may also (logically) include a few other things (such as confession that Jesus is Lord and baptism).
I think you fall into the trap of assuming everything that may be said about a matter in the Scriptures can be found in a single verse. It may be the way we try to communicate things now, but it is not the way Scriptures were written two millenia ago. For instance, there are three accounts of women going to Jesus’ tomb in the gospels. One say one woman went, another says two went and the third says three went. Which is correct? They all are. If I go to the movies with my wife and then tell a co-worker the next day that I went to see a movie, am I lying? No. Because I didn’t say something like I went alone to see the movies. So, just as James says, faith is not mere agreement with a proposition – it also involves action.
Paul
January 31st, 2013
7:54 pm
josef
Naw, spoiling to watch one, though!
But I gotta leave for an appointment.
Take over EOI duties, k?
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
7:55 pm
“So now crazy crackers is saying that “whoever believes and is baptized shall be saved” means “whoever believes and is not baptized is not saved”. Which verse is that in your revisionist scriptures, crazy cracker.”
First of all, that’s “Crazy Cracker” to you. I am not legion, LOL. Second, W H A T? Please learn to write coherently.
josef
January 31st, 2013
8:00 pm
PAUL
I gotta be nice…
indigo
January 31st, 2013
8:01 pm
Crazy Cracker, Scout, Paul, barking frog
No one has any idea who actually wrote the New Testament.
All we have is copies of copies.
The originals are long lost.
So, just out of curiosity, what makes you think these unknown authorship books are “the inspired words of God”?
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
8:03 pm
“Hey Crazy, you might wanna lead with Mark 16:6 where Jesus gives His final words just before the Ascension the apostles asked Him what they should do and he told them to go into all the world and preach the gospel, and everyone who believes AND IS BAPTIZED shall be saved…)”
The earliest mss do not have Mark 16:9-20, so why use these verses in a debate if their authenticity might be challenged? I myself do not find anything discrepant in the passage, but the argument can be made very easily with other verses.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 31st, 2013
8:04 pm
josef:
Not sure you saw this last night so I’ll try again.
The Prime Minister of Egypt has recently stated that “you” are descended from apes and pigs.
Thus far I have not seen Obama repudiate that statement.
Have you ?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 31st, 2013
8:05 pm
Ooops ! I left out an important verse:
“Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.” Matt. 7:6
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 31st, 2013
8:06 pm
josef:
My 8:05 relates to previous posts not my question to you at 8:04 .
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 31st, 2013
8:07 pm
josef
you don’t HAVE to be nice.
Life is all about choices
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
8:08 pm
“No one has any idea who actually wrote the New Testament.”
Untrue. Authorship for a number of books is stated.
“All we have is copies of copies. The originals are long lost.”
As is the case with ALL ancient literature. What is your point?
“So, just out of curiosity, what makes you think these unknown authorship books are “the inspired words of God”?”
It is a claim made in the books themselves, which logically can only be one of two things: true or false. If false, then the authors were either madmen or liars. They were not good men. And the NT should accordingly be thrown in the trash.
indigo
January 31st, 2013
8:09 pm
fundamentalist = ignorance
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1988/who-wrote-the-bible-part-4
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:09 pm
I see crazy cracker has no defense for his misinterpretation of “whoever believes and is baptized shall be saved”. He merely claims that one must repent and be baptized without offering definitive evidence of such claim beyond his interpretation of his version of scripture.
indigo
January 31st, 2013
8:13 pm
Crazy – 8:08 – “if false, then the authors were either madmen or liars”
Another fundamentalist error.
The authors probably believed they actually were writing these books under the divine inspiration of God.
However, no matter how sincerely they and you believe this, there’s not one shred of hard evidence to support any “diving inspiration”.
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
8:15 pm
“I see crazy cracker has no defense for his misinterpretation of “whoever believes and is baptized shall be saved”. He merely claims that one must repent and be baptized without offering definitive evidence of such claim beyond his interpretation of his version of scripture.”
I could offer plenty of scriptural evidence for this claim. But I am not sure you are really interested. If you are, then I suspect you are 1) intelligent enough to research this question on your own 2) examine the scriptural evidence offered for various “plans” of salvation and 3) decide which one is most compelling.
Recon 0311 2533
January 31st, 2013
8:16 pm
If you’ve accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and savior in prayer and confessed your sins and asked God for forgiveness, you’re saved. That does not mean that you’ll never sin again and are therefore sinless, it only means that you’ll sin less if you are truly saved. If you’ve not repented from the heart of your sins and revisit them in continued behavior without conviction it means you were not truly sincere in accepting Christ and seeking God’s forgiveness. God understands our sinful nature and that’s why he sent his son. The Bible is the most influential book ever written and Jesus Christ is the most influential man who ever walked the face of this earth. Christ’s influence is very much woven into the fabric of this nation from our inception.
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:16 pm
The authors could also have believed that what they were doing by writing these tall tales was to give people justification for being civilized rather than ruleless barbarians, like Republicans want to be.
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:17 pm
Crazy cracker claims he can defend his claims.
bman.
January 31st, 2013
8:18 pm
you libs are really an open-minded bunch…except when it comes to the religion thing
getalife
January 31st, 2013
8:19 pm
We don’t need no American taliban so get your religion out of politics.
josef
January 31st, 2013
8:20 pm
SCOUT
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said:
“We have raised our concerns over these remarks with the government of Egypt. We completely reject these statements, as we do any language that espouses religious hatred. This kind of discourse has been acceptable in the region for far too long and is counter to the goal of peace. President Morsi should make clear that he respects people of all faiths.”
indigo
January 31st, 2013
8:20 pm
DowninAlbamy – 7:40 “did you mention that all this occured in a gun free zone”
No. Why should I?
barking frog
January 31st, 2013
8:20 pm
indigo
I will discuss what the KJV says with those who believe it
or those who do not believe it but I do not attempt to say
that it is true or not.
Dixie Normous
January 31st, 2013
8:20 pm
I dont understand why people like Bookman despise this country so much. They must know that adding millions of people to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Foodstamps, and other welfare programs will hasten their demise. His only answer is tax more and more. Just keep raising taxes as more and more people become dependant on the govt. Many countries have tried that and have failed. Yet we see misguided people like Bookman still advocating the utter destruction of this country.
indigo
January 31st, 2013
8:21 pm
TaxPayer – 8:16
Good point.
I wonder how many religions have been started to give the people a “royal lie”?
indigo
January 31st, 2013
8:23 pm
Dixie Normous – 8:20
And what is your solution?
Let the masses starve?
Is that how you love your country?
Dixie Normous
January 31st, 2013
8:23 pm
Dixie Normous, Crazy Cracker
Unfortunately, the shooter was disarmend AFTER he shot the student.
I guess you two just forgot to mention that.
And before he could shoot 20 or 30 more people. I guess YOU forgot to mention that. The NRAs policy works. PERIOD!!
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:24 pm
conservatives are a closed-minded bunch…especially when it comes to anything.
moonbat betty
January 31st, 2013
8:24 pm
Immigration.
Health Care.
Unemployment.
Racism.
You think gun control is going to be difficult?
Dixie Normous
January 31st, 2013
8:26 pm
How many illegals live with Bookman at his expense? Not any. HYPOCRITE!!
moonbat betty
January 31st, 2013
8:26 pm
TaxPayer,
You just keep ducking taxes, and the Republicans will keep payin’.
Dixie Normous
January 31st, 2013
8:26 pm
Liberals are open-minded. And their brains fell out.
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
8:27 pm
“However, no matter how sincerely they and you believe this, there’s not one shred of hard evidence to support any “diving inspiration”.
Not entirely true. There is the internal consistency of the Bible itself – unmatched by any other piece of literature jointly authored over centuries and many men. Then there is the very peculiar authoritative voice of the Bible found in NO other literature – religious or otherwise.
“The officers then came to the chief priests and Pharisees, and they said to them, “Why did you not bring Him [Jesus - why didn't they arrest Him]?” The officers answered, “Never has a man spoken the way this man speaks.” – John 7:45-46.
“When Jesus had finished these words, the crowds were amazed at His teaching; for He was teaching them as one having authority, and not as their scribes.” – Matthew 7:28-29
If you have read a LOT of world literature, you will know what I am talking about.
getalife
January 31st, 2013
8:27 pm
“You think gun control is going to be difficult?”
The goal is to save one life so it is not difficult.
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
8:29 pm
“Crazy cracker claims he can defend his claims.”
Since you appear to be an atheist or agnostic, why do even care to engage me? Your motivations are suspect.
Dixie Normous
January 31st, 2013
8:29 pm
George Washington, ever heard of him, believed divine intervention allowed him to cross the Delaware River. He is on record as saying that. Go look it up.
Dixie Normous
January 31st, 2013
8:30 pm
Gun control doesnt save lives. If it did Chicago would be the safest place in the country.
Crazy Cracker
January 31st, 2013
8:30 pm
L8ter
barking frog
January 31st, 2013
8:32 pm
George Washington, ever heard of him, believed divine intervention allowed him to cross the Delaware River. He is on record as saying that. Go look it up.
…………………………………………………………….
I did not know they walked.
Recon 0311 2533
January 31st, 2013
8:34 pm
The goal is to save one life so it is not difficult.
So lets ban cars, alcohol and controlled substance. Oh that’s right banning alcohol didn’t work and banning drugs hasn’t worked either. Liberals…it’s a disease of the mind.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 31st, 2013
8:35 pm
josef:
So what has “Obama” said ?
Josef
January 31st, 2013
8:36 pm
PAUL
True, but Torquemada, well, let’s just say, has been being Torquemada…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 31st, 2013
8:36 pm
Recon 0311 2533 :
Just in case you didn’t see this the other night:
“GUN CONTROL IS LIKE TRYING TO REDUCE DRUNK DRIVING
BY MAKING IT TOUGHER FOR SOBER PEOPLE TO OWN CARS”
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:37 pm
“You just keep ducking taxes, and the Republicans will keep payin’.”
Moonbat,
You and the cons keep on payin’ lip service but that’s about it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 31st, 2013
8:38 pm
josef:
P.S.
Did the U.N. make a statement ?
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:40 pm
Cons now claim that laws against drunk driving and resulting consequences imposed on offenders do not reduce deaths by drunk drivers and hence laws have no value. Typical anarchists.
Josef
January 31st, 2013
8:40 pm
Scout…
Carney speaks for the President…
Right now, for my own reasons, I’m steering clear of that topic in public statements.
Georgia , The "New Mississippi"
January 31st, 2013
8:40 pm
On a serious note, our fellow Georgians impacted by the recent tornadoes /storms better hope they don’t need federal disaster aid. Both of our Senators and our GOP Johnny Reb Congressional delegation voted against helping the victims of Hurricane Sandy ….
Aquagirl
January 31st, 2013
8:42 pm
George Washington, ever heard of him, believed divine intervention allowed him to cross the Delaware River.
I’ve always been a little suspect of military types claiming their god(s) helped them. And what exactly did Washington say afterwards? “Thank you, Jesus, for helping me kill those men?”
Josef
January 31st, 2013
8:42 pm
Scout
@ 8:38
Surely you jest!
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:42 pm
Since you appear to be an atheist or agnostic, why do even care to engage me? Your motivations are suspect.
Deflection becomes you, crazy cracker. Or were you going for a diversionary tactic.
moonbat betty
January 31st, 2013
8:42 pm
Hi TaxPayer,
“You and the cons keep on payin’ lip service but that’s about it.”
Then give the cons the Senate instead of making it an old mule.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 31st, 2013
8:44 pm
Well, I see where this porn star named Ron Jeremy has went thru another heart operation. It’s no wonder his heart’s plumb wore out after pumping blood to that horse’s Private Part and then trying to make do with what’s left.
And one of my favorite singers, Emmylou Harris, got arrested for hit and run in L.A. She told the police it was only a few thousand bucks worth of damage and she never saw no need to stop over that.
Otherwise, y’all carry on with your caterwauling. Except for this Frank Sinkus. If I can spot all the grammar errors in his post while he’s going on and on and about not paying for the study of English, etc., I’m sure others can too. Seems to me he needs to take a break from his science education.
Have a good night everybody.
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:45 pm
Cons have to earn the Senate if they want it unless they try to steal it through gerrymandering.
moonbat betty
January 31st, 2013
8:47 pm
But of course, TP,
that’s how they win every time.
Thanks for the reminder!
Oscar
January 31st, 2013
8:57 pm
Gerrymandering should be made illegal.
moonbat betty
January 31st, 2013
8:59 pm
“Gerrymandering should be made illegal.”
That would be great Oscar.
Then we wouldn’t have politicians!
Oscar
January 31st, 2013
8:59 pm
Red – wonder if ole frank ever needed a lawyer?
Oscar
January 31st, 2013
9:01 pm
Moon – you know what Kennedy said about statesmen. he said a statesmen is a dead politician