On immigration, it’s not just about the Latino vote
In the weeks ahead, the Republican Party is going to have itself a fine debate over immigration, with Florida Sen. Marco Rubio more or less betting his presidential ambitions on winning the argument. If he can’t convince enough Republicans to join him, his de facto support for amnesty will become a cannon ball chained to his leg in the race for the 2016 GOP nomination.
Personally, I hope Rubio is successful, because his success would mean that we actually accomplish something and put this problem behind us. But I have serious doubts.
His fellow Republican senator, David Vitter of Louisiana, this week called Rubio’s stance on immigration “nuts” and “amazingly naive,” all the while expressing his enormous admiration for his Florida colleague. House Republicans, a good indicator of the sentiment of the GOP base, don’t seem ready at all to embrace the Rubio solution. The editors at National Review dismissed it as well this week in a piece headlined “A Pointless Amnesty”:
“Call it ‘regularization,’ call it a ‘path to citizenship,’ it amounts to precisely the same thing: a decision to set aside the law and to ignore its violation.”
The folks at National Review also argue that “the idea that an amnesty is going to put Latinos squarely in the GOP tent is a fantasy.” Framed in those terms, they’re right. There are no conceivable circumstances in which the Latino vote is going to end up “squarely in the GOP tent.” However, a cessation of active hostility might, just might, allow the party to compete for some of those votes in the future.
The realization that the Latino vote might not be a natural GOP constituency after all has become a popular theme on the right, but it reflects a typically narrow way of thinking about the issue. Its implications for the overall GOP brand are much broader.
In a new CBS poll released this week, 71 percent of Americans say they support allowing illegal immigrants to remain here, with 51 percent saying they would support a path to citizenship. Only 24 percent of Americans take the GOP position that those immigrants must somehow be required to return home.
In other words, the GOP’s political problem on this issue is not by any means limited to Hispanic Americans. The GOP position toward the Latino minority mirrors its historic animosity to gay rights, affirmative action, minority voting protections, the Equal Rights Amendment for women and similar issues.
Each of those groups listens to GOP rhetoric on the Latino issue and it hears a powerful reminder of GOP indifference to its own struggles. If the GOP ends up scuttling comprehensive immigration reform, those non-Latino voters will view it as confirmation that the Grand Old Party isn’t changing, and that it has every intention of being more old than grand.
And unfortunately, they will be right to think that way.
– Jay Bookman
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barking frog
January 31st, 2013
11:09 am
Johnny Reb
I stated Obama could not be elected dog catcher.
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Maybe he was, he is certainly making the Republicans his beyotches..
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 31st, 2013
11:10 am
the ironic and funny thing
REPUBLICANS are automatically thinking that illegals and hispanics will vote democratically
DEMOCRATS expect that illegals and hispanics will vote democratically
there is no way to quantify that stance……….. once the hispanic voting population exceeds the african-american voting population………….. then the fireworks start………….
the scenarios of what will happen after that are numerous
DebbieDoRight -- Minister Of Propaganda
January 31st, 2013
11:11 am
For every one person who may get disenfranchised there will be 100 who will get to vote illegally. Which is more fair?
Wow!! Hey! Here’s one for ya to add to that comment — ACORN stole the election from Romney!!
Tell all your friends!
rightwingextreme
January 31st, 2013
11:12 am
HDB
January 31st, 2013
10:59 am
rightwingextreme
January 31st, 2013
10:50 am
“uhhh…democrats do have an issue with requiring people to show and id to vote.”
Only when you CHANGE the ID requirements!! As I asked you before….should not the same ID that I used to REGISTER to vote be the same as the ID I use TO VOTE?? What Democrats objected to was the changing of ID requirements by Republicans in an attempt to disenfranchise minority voters!! There was a 92-year old registered voter in Tennessee who had voted in previous elections who wasn’t allowed to vote because she could get a photo ID…because she couldn’t get a copy of her BIRTH CERTIFICATE…but had enough alternate ID forms to establish her identity…that she had used to register to vote!! Many Democrats see these ID tactics as another methodology to depress the minority vote…..and remember what the State Senator in Pennsylvania stated: “..passing the ID law will allow Pennsylvania to go for Romney…”…but that didn’t work, did it???
I call B.S on the Tenn story and the whole ID thing.
From the Tenn S.o.S…nothing mentioned about the birth certificate…..maybe you’re thinking about Obama.
Any of the following IDs may be used, even if expired:
•Tennessee drivers license with your photo
•United States Passport
•Photo ID issued by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security
•Photo ID issued by the federal or any state government
•United States Military photo ID
•State-issued handgun carry permit with your photo
What IDs are not acceptable?
College student IDs and photo IDs not issued by the federal or a state government are NOT acceptable.
Who is exempt?
•Voters who vote absentee by mail (view requirements here)
•Voters who are residents of a licensed nursing home or assisted living center and who vote at the facility
•Voters who are hospitalized
•Voters with a religious objection to being photographed
•Voters who are indigent and unable to obtain a photo ID without paying a fee
What if I registered by mail and am voting in my first election?
Federal law requires first time voters who register by mail to present one of the following:
•A current photo identification with voter’s name and photo OR
•If the photo identification is expired, the voter must also present one of the following: a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck or other government document that shows the voter’s name and address.
If granny is 92 then she’s getting a SS check and she can vote absentee with no problems.
Do your homework before you mess with me.
zeke
January 31st, 2013
11:12 am
Yes it is about new democrat voters! The problem is that those with Cuban roots are almost 100% Conservative, but, those that Obozo and the democraps want to make voting citizens are the vast majority from Mexico, Central and South America and are so socialist it should be a crime! And, YES, THEY WILL OVERWHELMINGLY VOTE FOR BARACK-O-CLAUS OR ANY OTHER HANDOUT SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT!
Jefferson
January 31st, 2013
11:15 am
The GOP has never done anything for the working man that the boss man didn’t get more.
HDB
January 31st, 2013
11:15 am
monty
January 31st, 2013
11:05 am
“I’ve always had to show my I.D. when I vote and I’m a white guy. Why shouldn’t everybody else have to show some form of appropriate picure ID is beyond utterly ridiculous. For every one person who may get disenfranchised there will be 100 who will get to vote illegally. Which is more fair?”
What would be FAIRER is that ALL 50 states follow Federal Law….
“The 2002 Federal Help America Vote Act requires any voter who registered by mail and who has not previously voted in a federal election to show current and valid photo identification or a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter.”
Prior to the disenfranchisement efforts, voter could use photo ID…or any of the above stated OPTIONS to register to vote! As I’ve asked…..shouldn’t I be able to use the same ID that I REGISTERED with to VOTE???
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
11:15 am
a buffet of funnies
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022288136
getalife
January 31st, 2013
11:15 am
“ES, THEY WILL OVERWHELMINGLY VOTE FOR BARACK-O-CLAUS OR ANY OTHER HANDOUT SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT!”
reagan was a dem?
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
11:16 am
zeke – 11:12 – oh, really??
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324073504578107412795405272.html
barking frog
January 31st, 2013
11:16 am
Everybody loves freebies, from coupon clippers to multinationals.
getalife
January 31st, 2013
11:16 am
rubio is a dem?
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
11:16 am
getalife – 11:15 – well, he WAS a dem …
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
11:17 am
zeke
January 31st, 2013
11:12 am
Yes it is about new democrat voters! The problem is that those with Cuban roots are almost 100% Conservative, but, those that Obozo and the democraps want to make voting citizens are the vast majority from Mexico, Central and South America and are so socialist it should be a crime! And, YES, THEY WILL OVERWHELMINGLY VOTE FOR BARACK-O-CLAUS OR ANY OTHER HANDOUT SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT!
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Then why are big name HANDOUT SOCIALIST REPUBLICANS pushing this?
(see the funnies above for the answer)
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 31st, 2013
11:18 am
Jefferson
January 31st, 2013
11:15 am
The GOP has never done anything for the working man that the boss man didn’t get more.
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EMACIPATION PROCLAMATION
CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 64
Equal opportunity employment
Occupational Safety and Health Act
i could go on but it will just make you more mad and stubborn and then DEFLECT
barking frog
January 31st, 2013
11:19 am
getalife
Rubio is a dem?
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he should be if he wants a chance to be President.
Jefferson
January 31st, 2013
11:19 am
If they want a picture of a voter why don’t they take it when you vote and give it to you then. If you don’t check out, next time fine or just kill them. Would that work ???
Just joking about killing them, maybe just rough em’ up a little.
HDB
January 31st, 2013
11:19 am
rightwingextreme
January 31st, 2013
11:12 am
Calling you on your statement……
96-year-old Chattanooga resident denied voting ID
Dorothy Cooper is 96 but she can remember only one election when she’s been eligible to vote but hasn’t.
The retired domestic worker was born in a small North Georgia town before women had the right to vote. She began casting ballots in her 20s after moving to Chattanooga for work. She missed voting for John F. Kennedy in 1960 because a move to Nashville prevented her from registering in time.
So when she learned last month at a community meeting that under a new state law she’d need a photo ID to vote next year, she talked with a volunteer about how to get to a state Driver Service Center to get her free ID. But when she got there Monday with an envelope full of documents, a clerk denied her request.
That morning, Cooper slipped a rent receipt, a copy of her lease, her voter registration card and her birth certificate into a Manila envelope. Typewritten on the birth certificate was her maiden name, Dorothy Alexander.
“But I didn’t have my marriage certificate,” Cooper said Tuesday afternoon, and that was the reason the clerk said she was denied a free voter ID at the Cherokee Boulevard Driver Service Center.
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2011/oct/05/marriage-certificate-required-bureaucrat-tells/
When you change the ID requirements, you’re trying to disenfranchise voters…….
MiltonMan
January 31st, 2013
11:21 am
Libs thought process: Let’s penalize the law abiding American citizen by taking away their 2nd Amendment rights by marhing out children & Gabby to push for “gun control” but let’s give law breaking illegals a “dream act” by allowing them to become American citizens.
This country is being flushed down the toilet so people can win/buy votes.
Frederick Douglass
January 31st, 2013
11:21 am
Cosby @ 9:46
“protect the boarders”
Is that what we do for senators and career politicians when we provide them with free health care, pensions, and security for life for doing essentially nothing?
Jefferson
January 31st, 2013
11:22 am
With Milton, its a two flush as that would be a lot of crap…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 31st, 2013
11:23 am
Bottom line:
The real test is our borders. A nation that cannot control its borders will eventually ceased to become a nation as assimilation will totally break down.
“Out of Many, One” becomes “Many of Many” and that will not work.
Divirsity divides ……………. Commonality brings us together.
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
11:24 am
” Let’s penalize the law abiding American citizen by taking away their 2nd Amendment rights ”
someone get a fainting couch, STAT!!!
getalife
January 31st, 2013
11:25 am
We flushed the cons.
Janney
January 31st, 2013
11:25 am
You don’t have to be less than rich to vote Democratic. To paraphrase Bill Maher (i know, I know, but it IS a good observation): Rich people that care only about themselves vote Republican. Rich people who care about their country vote Democratic.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 31st, 2013
11:25 am
“MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: OBAMA ENDING JOBS COUNCIL”
Brilliant ! He never met with them anyway. Too busy golfing.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 31st, 2013
11:25 am
It seems there is a great deal of confusion between “pandering” for votes from a small group and enacting laws that a majority of Americans want.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 31st, 2013
11:27 am
Headline: “Homeland offers advice for confronting mass murderers: Scissors… ”
Well, there you go ………. I assume they mean the safety kind used in schools.
By the way, you aren’t allowed to run with scissors in school so you would have to walk to get to the assailant.
Geez !
guy
January 31st, 2013
11:27 am
Granny, your gang has won(and I give you credit) by having a huge voting block who refuse or aren’t capable of thinking for themselves. You give them a treat and that’s their reward. It works and looks like it will be this way for a very long time. Just make sure the money doesn’t run out,which it will in time. Kill the head and the body will fall!!!!!
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
11:27 am
“Let’s penalize the law abiding American citizen by taking away their 2nd Amendment rights ”
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Geez those tea partiers lose their rights all the damn time.
Like I tell my Mr. G about his keys…..if you put them in the same
place every time you won’t lose them..
barking frog
January 31st, 2013
11:28 am
The real test is our borders. A nation that cannot control its borders will eventually ceased to become a nation as assimilation will totally break down.
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The US has never had ‘border control’. The US has never tried to have
‘border control’. Right wing paranoia is why it is now being discussed.
Erwin's cat
January 31st, 2013
11:28 am
Paul – Can you cite an instance where Republicans initiated action on a major issue that could have increased support for Democrats?
Can you rephrase the question? I’m really not sure I completely following you. I’m sure a lot of Republican inaction has helped the Dems.
To say that the Dems are doing this outta pure goodness without a political agenda or narrative is just naive or are you suggesting that the Dems are doing this even though the Latinos might vote R in the long run?…or to that end they are doing this for the benefit of the Republicans?
monty
January 31st, 2013
11:28 am
stands for decibels
I’m not against helping folks who are in need. I do it all the time. I’m against welfare as a system that just ends up enslaving generation after generation. It’s like a dope pusher giving out free crank to get people hooked and then they are perpetually theirs. Some can break free from the cycle but it is hard. Every day I see minorities where the young girls believe their greatest achievement is getting pregnant at an early age. Everyday I see young women where by the time they are in their early 20’s(the time they should be graduating from college) they have 3-4 kids by different “Daddys.” They dropped out of school, now they have 3-4 kids to take care of, not even a highschool diploma and a very restricted job market. The only job they qualify for (if they were lucky enough to get it)wouldn’t even pay for their child care. But, they know thy have the safety net of welfare(because momma has it and grandma had it). And they are comfortable with that. It’s a mindset that has been programmed into them partly because of the govt.(we’re there for you) and to a large degree with the break down of the family due to immorality.(drugs. violence, adultery, acoholism,incest,lack of male leadership, etc). I feel deeply for these young girls because all they know many times is what they experienced growing up.
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
11:28 am
guy
January 31st, 2013
11:27 am
Granny, your gang has won(and I give you credit) by having a huge voting block who refuse or aren’t capable of thinking for themselves. You give them a treat and that’s their reward. It works and looks like it will be this way for a very long time. Just make sure the money doesn’t run out,which it will in time. Kill the head and the body will fall!!!!!
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.really ugly bigotry there guy…really ugly.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 31st, 2013
11:28 am
Janney
YOU MEAN LIKE THE GUY CLINTON PARDONED — MARC RICH
GREAT EXAMPLE
Marc Rich, a fugitive who had fled the U.S. during his prosecution, was residing in Switzerland. Rich owed $48 million in taxes and was charged with 51 counts of tax fraud, was pardoned of tax evasion. He was required to pay a $100 million dollar fine and waive any use of the pardon as a defense against any future civil charges that were filed against him in the same case. Critics complained that Denise Rich, his former wife, had made substantial donations to both the Clinton library and to Mrs. Clinton’s senate campaign. According to Paul Volcker’s independent investigation of Iraqi Oil-for-Food kickback schemes, Marc Rich was a middleman for several suspect Iraqi oil deals involving over 4 million barrels (640,000 m3) of oil.[20] Longtime Clinton supporters and Democratic leaders such as former President Jimmy Carter, James Carville and Terry McAuliffe, were all critical of the Clinton pardon. Carter said the pardons were “disgraceful.”[21]
Regnad Kcin
January 31st, 2013
11:29 am
Just like those conservative landlords: always wanting to “control our boarders.”
bookman parrot
January 31st, 2013
11:29 am
jay is right… it is not just about the vote… it is just 99.99999% about the vote
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
11:30 am
” by having a huge voting block who refuse or aren’t capable of thinking for themselves”
says the guy whose team panders to FOX viewers …
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 31st, 2013
11:31 am
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 31st, 2013
11:25 am
“MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: OBAMA ENDING JOBS COUNCIL”
Brilliant ! He never met with them anyway. Too busy golfing.
=======================================================
SO WE ARE BACK AT FULL EMPLOYMENT???
I AM CONFUSED……….. PLEASE EDUCATE ME LIBERALS
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 31st, 2013
11:32 am
Do you remember this tv show? It was on tv yesterday.
Did you know there is a “High Chaparral” theme park in Sweden that’s been in operation since the late 60’s? What??
They have a restaurant so I had to check out one of the menus online. Along with burgers, wings, steaks, and ribs they sell schnitzel. Ha.
Regnad Kcin
January 31st, 2013
11:32 am
guy said, “Granny, your gang has won(and I give you credit) by having a huge voting block who refuse or aren’t capable of thinking for themselves. You give them a treat and that’s their reward.’
guy, if conservatives think of the american electorate as dumb animals, they are less likely to attract them to their candidates. Perhaps you should try treating them with a little respect – that might work!
barking frog
January 31st, 2013
11:32 am
Regnad Kcin
Just like those conservative landlords: always wanting to “control our boarders.”
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or possibly stewardess envy…
Regnad Kcin
January 31st, 2013
11:35 am
“I AM CONFUSED……….. PLEASE EDUCATE ME LIBERALS’
Nah…you’re more fun THIS way…
Mr_B
January 31st, 2013
11:35 am
“(except for a few with degrees in match, science or engineering, but I didn’t think you were speaking of them)”
I’d suggest a level playing field for anybody, who wants to enter, regardless of skill set. If we need more engineers, let’s grow our own for a change.
monty
January 31st, 2013
11:35 am
Since there are so many rich Dems who care about the poor and disenfranchised their charitable contributions should be through the roof. Snicker! Me thinks the rich Dems are more about contributing to the “party” than the masses. LOL!
Dharma Bum
January 31st, 2013
11:36 am
More of the same… reduce people’s entire identity to their ethnicity… and subsequently pit them against other groups through fear-based oratory.
Democrats = Party of Fear
Republicans = Party of Fear
Two groups of trash are in charge of our country, but partisans like Bookman, Wingfield, Schultz, Maddow, Hannity, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, etc. are so far up their respective “teams” posteriors, that they don’t realize how damaging their rhetoric is.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 31st, 2013
11:36 am
barking frog: “Everybody loves freebies, from coupon clippers to multinationals.”
Nawww, not the financiers and rentiers!
Such hard work sitting back and letting the numbers in your portfolio reproduce.
Janney
January 31st, 2013
11:36 am
guy
January 31st, 2013
11:27 am
Granny, your gang has won(and I give you credit) by having a huge voting block who refuse or aren’t capable of thinking for themselves. You give them a treat and that’s their reward.
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Guess you could say the same for Republicans, but instead of a treat, they just keep getting tricked.
Erwin's cat
January 31st, 2013
11:37 am
monty – Me thinks the rich Dems are more about contributing to the “party” than the masses. LOL!
ever heard of Ted Turner?
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 31st, 2013
11:37 am
Mr_B
what about our own construction workers?
Paul
January 31st, 2013
11:37 am
Erwin’s Cat
It was more a tongue-in-cheek comment than anything.
Implication was, Republicans sacrificed for the good of the country by taking an action that would lead to Democratic support.
Namely, having people like Perry and Bachmann and Gingrich run, then settling on Romney.
Yup, that did lead to support for Democrats!
But I’ve got to be out for a while
later -
St Simons - he-ne-ha
January 31st, 2013
11:38 am
The cons should be ALL OVER this proposal.
Its a way to indefinitely depress wages and maintain an underclass
of exploited labor for maximum profit at the top.
hell, practically their entire party platform.
that, and the 400 abortion bills, and gayhatin.
Erwin's cat
January 31st, 2013
11:40 am
Yup, that did lead to support for Democrats!
I can’t argue with that Paul…have a good one
guy
January 31st, 2013
11:40 am
Regnad, I did not say all were dumb animals and you know that. Read what I wrote. You know darn well what I am saying. It’s smart politics and right now it works. I respect people who try and care no matter if they are cons,crats,or independent. Come on!
barking frog
January 31st, 2013
11:40 am
Welcome 11:36
Such hard work sitting back and letting the numbers in your portfolio reproduce.
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so much so that it requires taxpayer assistance…
Ronald Reagan Parkway
January 31st, 2013
11:40 am
Jay says:
If the GOP ends up scuttling comprehensive immigration reform, those non-Latino voters will view it as confirmation that the Grand Old Party isn’t changing, and that it has every intention of being more old than grand.
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They will “never” change. They only want the Latino vote and nothing more. After all, without votes, they can not be elected!!
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 31st, 2013
11:41 am
that, and the 400 abortion bills, and gayhatin.
And the 278 bills that require women be prodded for no medical reason every time they visit a Dr office.
Oscar
January 31st, 2013
11:42 am
You don’t want o just ignore the law and let them become citizens.
Good. Fine them each $100 for entering the county illegally. Then the law has not been ignored, they have been punished, and they can then get on with the reqirements to become citizens.
Everyone should be happy.
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
11:42 am
barking – 11:40 – game. set. match.
monty
January 31st, 2013
11:44 am
Everybody see the article about MSNBC doctoring up the video about gun control in Congress yesterday? You’re being manipulated people. The propaganda machine is in full force. You won’t find truth on the “lamestream” media, just what they want you to see and hear.THat’s a fact! No reason to edit that video except to have an agenda. I guess you guys missed out on the 500,000 that marched on the Capital last week for Pro-Life but you did hear alot about the “thousands” that protested gun control. And how many “thousands” were there? 6!! Count them 6!! Time to wake up, you’re being fed dog crap and they’re are telling you “it’s good!” And you’re believing them.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
January 31st, 2013
11:44 am
they were talking about this at St Simons Elementary this morning.
Dropped my little papoose off as the teacher was asking the class,
“Does anybody know how many illegal immigrants we have in the US?”
My daughter looks around at me. I said “tell her 300 million”
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 31st, 2013
11:44 am
If the latinos were as dumb as the average middle/working/lower class Republican voter, all the GOP would have to do is promise them immediate citizenship every election cycle to get their vote and then forget the promise until the next election cycle.
wash, rinse, repeat.
Oscar
January 31st, 2013
11:45 am
The GOP should reject immigration reform. Good. That will continue to keep them out of the White House for decades more.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 31st, 2013
11:45 am
“Does anybody know how many illegal immigrants we have in the US?
Not enough to vote the Cons out of the House??
hehehehe
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 31st, 2013
11:47 am
LIBERALS WANT IMMIGRATION REFORM
BUT THEY ARE DEAD SET AGAINST TAX REFORM
BUYER BEWARE
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
11:47 am
“My daughter looks around at me. I said “tell her 300 million””
Oscar
January 31st, 2013
11:49 am
Finn – Don’t get too cute. If you have not noticed, some of the cons in the house are voting with the democrats. 85 on the last important vote. Left the rest standing on the sidelines wondering what went wrong.
Expect more of this in the future.
guy
January 31st, 2013
11:50 am
Jannet, We are all getting tricked!
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 31st, 2013
11:50 am
LIBERALS ARE DISGUSTING
THEY ARE MAKING FUN AND LAUGHING AT THE GENOCIDE OF THE AMERICAN INDIANS
SHAME ON BLUE
Welcome to the Occupation
January 31st, 2013
11:50 am
Barking frog: “Such hard work sitting back and letting the numbers in your portfolio reproduce. / so much so that it requires taxpayer assistance…”
And lots of banker assistance. Central, banker, assistance. That’s real important, too. Oh, and deregulation-happy legislators in your pocket. That can go along way too.
Oscar
January 31st, 2013
11:51 am
Uncle – Liberals are for tax reform. Is this more satire” It’s so hard to tell when people are serious or writing stupid stuff on purpose.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 31st, 2013
11:51 am
Barking frog:
But our rube friends here, they’re none the wiser. As usual.
getalife
January 31st, 2013
11:53 am
cons swallow every word from rw propganda on rw media then claim our President won because of low information voters.
Then after that is debunked they turn heading out freebies that is another lie.
Lets face it cons, you lost because you deserved it.
Personal responsibility.
Self reflect on that.
TBS
January 31st, 2013
11:54 am
Both Dem and Repub have done a pitiful job when it comes to allocating resources to “seal the border”. Not sure if it will ever be sealed, however a better job can be done. It wont be free. Those working for the US government along the US & Mexican should be commended for the job they do with the resources available to them.
With that said; you can seal that border with all the fences, surveillance and manpower you want; if US businesses continue to hire illegals, illegals will find a way to fill those jobs.
Oscar
January 31st, 2013
11:54 am
UK – Do they have high wind and tornadoes over there. It’s getting scary here in the southeast of the USA.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 31st, 2013
11:54 am
Well its clear that someone who cannot turn off the all caps on her keyboard clearly cannot post intelligent commentary.
getalife
January 31st, 2013
11:55 am
handing not heading.
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
11:56 am
Oscar – the highlands had winds of 80+ mph over the last couple of days … but we rarely get tornadoes
Welcome to the Occupation
January 31st, 2013
11:57 am
monty: “Everybody see the article about MSNBC doctoring up the video about gun control in Congress yesterday? You’re being manipulated people”
Calm down there, sonnn, you’re going to give yerself a hurnya.
Nothin to get your knickers in a twist about. We all know MSNBC is just a Dem progiganda outfit. Why, they lurned it all from FOX. So ain’t nothin to get all in a tizzy about there ol’ buddy. After all, it all ‘balances’ out in the end, right? And that’s the important part, really, isn’t it, balance?
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 31st, 2013
11:58 am
OSCAR…… LIBERALS ARE NOT FOR TAX REFORM………… HAD CONTROL OF THE HOUSE, SENATE AND WHITE HOUSE………………. NOT ONCE DID THEY ENACT ANYTHING………….. ERSKINE BOWLES (OBAMA’S OWN COMMISSION) RECOMMENDED TAX REFORM AND HE IGNORED IT
OOOOOOOOOH WAIT………………….. I GET IT
IN LIBERAL SPEAK………….
TAX REFORM = RAISE TAXES
GOT IT NOW………… SORRY ABOUT THAT
Mr_B
January 31st, 2013
11:58 am
Common: Those too. And landscapers and peach pickers and neurosurgeons, and convenience store owners.
getalife
January 31st, 2013
11:59 am
fox is gop.
msnbc is dem.
cnn is both.
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
12:00 pm
would someone please hand Sam some decaf?
St Simons - he-ne-ha
January 31st, 2013
12:00 pm
Uncle Samantha, don’t skeer my caddy & my yardman like that.
getalife
January 31st, 2013
12:00 pm
sam,
Turn off your caps because caps stand for kook.
Towncrier
January 31st, 2013
12:01 pm
“Personally, I hope Rubio is successful, because his success would mean that we actually accomplish something and put this problem behind us.”
Did you write that with a straight face? Why don’t you write a column on how the IRCA of 1986 “put this problem behind us”?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986
weetamoe
January 31st, 2013
12:06 pm
The bipartisan group led by Rubio make their recommendations contingent on border security. Their plan is reasonable and sound. Republicans, who are right to be suspicious about the border security principle, should nevertheless support Rubio on this. In a whiplash reaction, Obama squandered money and enlarged once again his big old carbon footprint by immediately flying across the country to announce Rubio’s plan as his own while being careful to imply that not all of the bipartisan plan (cue border security ) could be implemented. He would rather destroy the republicans than give the illegal immigrants a path to citizenship.
SARA
January 31st, 2013
12:07 pm
We are not Mexico. They have broken our law by being here. They have no skills and I am very tired of reading that in order to get a job in America you must speak Spanish. WHY? When did we turn into Mexico. We will you know. 11 million now, 11 million future demanding their rights. There is no security here and there never will be. You know I have NOT heard one word yet about JOBS FOR AMERICANS. When will this President and our representatives put Americans first? Will they ever put AMERICANS first? Not unless you force them to! Its all about keeping people under their control and keeping you down. I bet it feels real good to these Americans who have lost their jobs and their homes to hear that Obama wants to make 11 million illegals legal. That’s his top priority. Makes me feel real good, can tell you that.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 31st, 2013
12:07 pm
It’s so hard to tell when people are serious or writing stupid stuff on purpose.
You mean like this?
Do they have high wind and tornadoes over there
Towncrier
January 31st, 2013
12:08 pm
“In a new CBS poll released this week, 71 percent of Americans say they support allowing illegal immigrants to remain here, with 51 percent saying they would support a path to citizenship. Only 24 percent of Americans take the GOP position that those immigrants must somehow be required to return home.”
Principles, schminciples – right, Jay? Somehow, though, I very much doubt you or anyone of your persuasion would offer “amnesty” to people who illegally took up residence in your home while you and your family were away on vacation. I imagine you wouldn’t care if they did that to your neighbor’s house – just not yours.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 31st, 2013
12:10 pm
They have no skills
Remember that the next time you dine out anywhere, get your house repaired, drop your kid at daycare, or need ANYTHING done properly.
Living With Open Eyes
January 31st, 2013
12:10 pm
Liberals crack me up. No one cares about ex cons and people with bad credit unable to work because of universal background checks and now you want to make those same people compete with 11 milllion ILLEGAL immigrants who will be given amnesty and a clean background. You won’t even give your OWN people a new start – why in the heck are you going to forgive foreigners for breaking the law?
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 31st, 2013
12:10 pm
DO UNTO OTHERS AS THEY WOULD DO UNTO YOU
lets just ADOPT MEXICAN LAW
Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.
TBS
January 31st, 2013
12:11 pm
TC
Tell us your plan to round up upwards of 20 million people who are illegal and send them back to their home countries.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 31st, 2013
12:11 pm
Sara, do you have hearing issues or just imagination problems? You do realize that many “Americans” do not speak English. Many immigrants also speak languages other than Spanish, including Chinese, German, French, Korean. Did you miss Obama’s jobs bills that the House Republicans rejected?
Mick
January 31st, 2013
12:13 pm
What cracks me up about cubans is that they vote republican but get more from the federal gov’t than those of us born here! Yes, they get the whole nine yards, social security too, as if they are entitled. What other immigrant group gets such treatment? That’s why all the other hispanic groups loathe them, to top it off, they refuse to speak english.
We gave up miami long ago, the beginning of the end was the mariel boatlift, thanks a lot JC, open arms my butt. Hurricane andrew finished the job…
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
12:13 pm
Maybe he was, he is certainly making the Republicans his beyotches..
filed under “stuff I mustn’t admit to laughing at.”
Towncrier
January 31st, 2013
12:14 pm
Does he or doesn’t he? Is he truthful or a liar?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/30/obama-keet-shooting-all-time-hardly-sources-say/#ixzz2JVcSeyMG
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 31st, 2013
12:14 pm
COME ON LIBERALS
ADOPT THOSE MEXICAN LAWS……. THEY ARE BETTER THAN OUR IDEAS
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 31st, 2013
12:15 pm
Life is about progress… look at the progress we have made today. Sam has learned how to turn off the ALL CAPS… or else she just hit the key board like one of them monkeys typing randomly and writing War and Peace.