On immigration, it’s not just about the Latino vote

Marco-Rubio

In the weeks ahead, the Republican Party is going to have itself a fine debate over immigration, with Florida Sen. Marco Rubio more or less betting his presidential ambitions on winning the argument. If he can’t convince enough Republicans to join him, his de facto support for amnesty will become a cannon ball chained to his leg in the race for the 2016 GOP nomination.

Personally, I hope Rubio is successful, because his success would mean that we actually accomplish something and put this problem behind us. But I have serious doubts.

His fellow Republican senator, David Vitter of Louisiana, this week called Rubio’s stance on immigration “nuts” and “amazingly naive,” all the while expressing his enormous admiration for his Florida colleague. House Republicans, a good indicator of the sentiment of the GOP base, don’t seem ready at all to embrace the Rubio solution. The editors at National Review dismissed it as well this week in a piece headlined “A Pointless Amnesty”:

“Call it ‘regularization,’ call it a ‘path to citizenship,’ it amounts to precisely the same thing: a decision to set aside the law and to ignore its violation.”

The folks at National Review also argue that “the idea that an amnesty is going to put Latinos squarely in the GOP tent is a fantasy.” Framed in those terms, they’re right. There are no conceivable circumstances in which the Latino vote is going to end up “squarely in the GOP tent.” However, a cessation of active hostility might, just might, allow the party to compete for some of those votes in the future.

The realization that the Latino vote might not be a natural GOP constituency after all has become a popular theme on the right, but it reflects a typically narrow way of thinking about the issue. Its implications for the overall GOP brand are much broader.

In a new CBS poll released this week, 71 percent of Americans say they support allowing illegal immigrants to remain here, with 51 percent saying they would support a path to citizenship. Only 24 percent of Americans take the GOP position that those immigrants must somehow be required to return home.

In other words, the GOP’s political problem on this issue is not by any means limited to Hispanic Americans. The GOP position toward the Latino minority mirrors its historic animosity to gay rights, affirmative action, minority voting protections, the Equal Rights Amendment for women and similar issues.

Each of those groups listens to GOP rhetoric on the Latino issue and it hears a powerful reminder of GOP indifference to its own struggles. If the GOP ends up scuttling comprehensive immigration reform, those non-Latino voters will view it as confirmation that the Grand Old Party isn’t changing, and that it has every intention of being more old than grand.

And unfortunately, they will be right to think that way.

– Jay Bookman

1,067 comments Add your comment

moonbat betty

January 31st, 2013
9:04 pm

Who’s districts are being gerrymandered here in GA for the upcoming elections?

That would be interesting to see.

Who decides if gerrymandering has occurred?

Maybe Jay can graph it for us each week?

OK, lets do it!

Oscar

January 31st, 2013
9:04 pm

Red – Don’t know if he (frank) ever needed a lawyer – but I’m pretty sure he could use a psychologist

Oscar

January 31st, 2013
9:05 pm

Moon – it’s pretty easy to tell. just look at the votes and districts. Nothing secret about it.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

January 31st, 2013
9:06 pm

josef:

“Right now, for my own reasons, I’m steering clear of that topic in public statements.”

I hear you and respect that but a couple of points:

1) “Carney speaks for the President…”

It is pathetic that the president did not speak on this personally. You know exactly what would have happened had some world leader made the same statement about blacks.

2) Regarding the U.N. position or lack thereof …

Exactly my point !

3) NEVER AGAIN !

Oscar

January 31st, 2013
9:08 pm

0311 are the points you made about the topic you are not talking about?

RB from Gwinnett

January 31st, 2013
9:10 pm

I’m kinda wondering if any of you liberals ever see any similarities in the “taxation without represntation” that led our ancestors to tell King George to go to hell and the taxation of the rich whom you takers seem to think you can continue to tax to infinity to support your own wants and desires because “the majority” supports it…

Didn’t turn out very well for King George and it ain’t gonna work out too well for King Obama or whoever succeeds him. And for the record, the revolution our forefathers wasn’t legal under King George’s rules either, so at the point you push people too far, nobody is going to give a crap if you like it or not.

Zebulon

January 31st, 2013
9:10 pm

And there no black Jews?

Oscar

January 31st, 2013
9:11 pm

Betty = I agree a graph is in order. And a map, and a chart. A pie chart. I like those.

Oscar

January 31st, 2013
9:12 pm

Oscar

January 31st, 2013
9:13 pm

RB – you are right about there being a point beyond which you cannot push people without there being a reaction.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 31st, 2013
9:25 pm

Hmmm, don’t know if Jesus helped Washington cross the Delaware, but if he was involved, don’t you think he could have done something to have avoided all those deaths.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 31st, 2013
9:30 pm

Taxation without representation?

The rich have lots of representation and they buy a lot of lobbists. Doubt they’ll be whining. Now let’s see, people denied the right to vote because of games making lines longer, removing elected officials and appointing an manager answerable to no voter, changing EC voting to override popular vote (rigging the system), now that is Taxation without Representation.

RB from Gwinnett

January 31st, 2013
9:36 pm

“Hmmm, don’t know if Jesus helped Washington cross the Delaware, but if he was involved, don’t you think he could have done something to have avoided all those deaths.”

You make the mistake of looking at things from the micro view of a human. We’re not capable of understanding the ways and means of God. Something liberals should learn to accept and understand.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 31st, 2013
9:40 pm

We’re not capable of understanding the ways and means of God

Glad you acknowledge that, RB. So we don’t know if Jesus helped Washington. We also don’t really know why God “invented” gay people, or abortions. Now you might want to educate those who keep telling us what God means. Thanks in advance.

moonbat betty

January 31st, 2013
9:42 pm

RB from Gwinnett

January 31st, 2013
9:43 pm

Hey Keep, how’s the weather there in lala land?

Al Jazzara

January 31st, 2013
9:45 pm

Thank you President Obama for the planes, tanks and the money for Eqypt!

RB from Gwinnett

January 31st, 2013
9:46 pm

“Now you might want to educate those who keep telling us what God means. Thanks in advance”

And the Christian haters continue to spew their hatred under the guise of “tolerance”….

Hey Keep, tolerance doesn’t mean tolerance of people who think like you and hatred on on the others. If you’re going to play the liberal game, at least learn your own lingo.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 31st, 2013
9:48 pm

All them years in church, and suddenly pizza boy tells me I’m a Christian hater.

Aquagirl

January 31st, 2013
9:52 pm

And the Christian haters continue to spew their hatred under the guise of “tolerance”….

lol…I could see RB wasn’t gonna handle that well.

“We don’t know God’s plans or what He means…uh…except for me, of course. And U R A H8R!!”

barking frog

January 31st, 2013
9:55 pm

We’re not capable of understanding the ways and means of God.
………………………………………………………………………………………….
Since God allows Doctors to handle much of his healing it follows
He allows them to handle many of his miscarriages too.

Corey

January 31st, 2013
9:55 pm

USinUK – always opinionated and seldom “ladylike”

January 31st, 2013
10:09 am

I have to remind myself not to have a beverage near my keyboard or in my mouth when I read and Aqua’s comments.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 31st, 2013
9:56 pm

What? Why Aquagirl, certainly he understood the impact of his statement right? :lol: Are you predicting the superbowl too. :P

RB from Gwinnett

January 31st, 2013
9:58 pm

““We don’t know God’s plans or what He means…uh…except for me, of course. And U R A H8R!!”

You go Aquagirl!! Hey, let’s make up some more crap that’s not what the other person actually said, put it in quotation marks as if it is what they said, and then comment on it!! This will be fun, won’t it. I’ll start….

Yea Aquagirl, “I could see RB made a really good point that I can’t refute”. Nicely put, Aquagirl!!

Geez…

Soothsayer

January 31st, 2013
10:01 pm

Well, I never tire of watching the flames in the old woodstove. What a wonderful tonic for the soul and balm for the spirit to chase away the blues in these dismal days until Spring. I can’t wait for the Masters. By the way, if you would like some really entertaining golf this weekend watch the tournament from Scottsdale. I guarantee you’ll love it! (I’m not going to tell you why, you’ll just have to watch to find out for yourself.)

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

January 31st, 2013
10:01 pm

Al Jazzara :

“Thank you President Obama for the planes, tanks and the money for Eqypt!”

Don’t worry about the planes and tanks ………. the IDF will take those out in about the first ten minutes.

moonbat betty

January 31st, 2013
10:08 pm

You got that right, Sooth.

Far it up.

moonbat betty

January 31st, 2013
10:11 pm

“I’m not going to tell you why, you’ll just have to watch to find out for yourself.”

Are you really Tiger’s “ex” and you’re going to run topless across the 18th green and make him miss the winning put?

bman.

January 31st, 2013
10:12 pm

Keep up.. .. you all boozed up now?

Soothsayer

January 31st, 2013
10:14 pm

Tiger’s ex may soon be running with $350 million to “hook back up” with Tiger. I just wouldn’t never pay that much for some p____y! No way! It just ain’t worth it!

Aquagirl

January 31st, 2013
10:15 pm

You go Aquagirl!! Hey, let’s make up some more crap that’s not what the other person actually said,

What, you didn’t say “You make the mistake of looking at things from the micro view of a human. We’re not capable of understanding the ways and means of God?”

Striking out in anger does not draw anyone’s attention away from what you very clearly said.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 31st, 2013
10:18 pm

bman, you being childish now?

bman.

January 31st, 2013
10:18 pm

Aquagirl – that is the first post I’ve ever seen from you that did not make me laugh….

bman.

January 31st, 2013
10:19 pm

Keep up .. .. Well, I am eating a hotpocket…

Aquagirl

January 31st, 2013
10:25 pm

that is the first post I’ve ever seen from you that did not make me laugh….

Well, I am competing with the image of Sooth running topless across the 18th. And a hot pocket.

bman.

January 31st, 2013
10:27 pm

RB from Gwinnett

January 31st, 2013
10:27 pm

Silly girl… Pretty much everybody who reads these blogs knows that “We’re not capable of understanding the ways and means of God?” and “We don’t know God’s plans or what He means…uh…except for me, of course. And U R A H8R!!” have nothing in common.

Except you.

Do you even know the word “means” in those two sentences has completely diffent meanings? Didn’t think so…. Give dictionary.com a try.

Aquagirl

January 31st, 2013
10:38 pm

Do you even know the word “means” in those two sentences has completely diffent meanings?

Of course I do, however why are you suddenly quibbling over my choice of words when paraphrasing?

C’mon, I am actually dropping my sarcasm mode here, as bman noted. I will not rag on you for what you said in a mean way. But if you’re not going to admit that was a pretty insightful admission why humans should not attempt to enforce their perceived will of God on others here, I hope you can at least examine it on your own.

RB from Gwinnett

January 31st, 2013
10:51 pm

Aquagirl, “Of course I do, however why are you suddenly quibbling over my choice of words when paraphrasing?”

Paraphrasing with quotation marks??? I guess in addition to not knowing “means” has multiple meanings, you don’t know what quotation marks are for either??? Geez…. It’s pretty bad when engineers are having to teach you basic language arts.

And, NO, I won’t admit to anything you say about God being insightful. You’re really not that bright, Aquagirl, and certainly not bright enough to claim you know the ways and means of God.

moonbat betty

January 31st, 2013
11:01 pm

RB,

They are going to tell you what you “mean”

Fagetaboutit

It’s not

moonbat betty

January 31st, 2013
11:02 pm

Oscar

January 31st, 2013
11:06 pm

Aquagirl

January 31st, 2013
11:10 pm

and, NO, I won’t admit to anything you say about God being insightful.

Well that’s always been a given since the only thing I have to say about god is that there is no evidence he exists, and you certainly wouldn’t consider that an insight. However that’s not something I’ve said in the conversation until now.

So why did you think I was trying to say anything insightful about god or claiming I know his “ways and means?”

I said I thought what you said about parameters for human conduct was insightful. I offered no thoughts on what god might think or do.

moonbat betty

January 31st, 2013
11:11 pm

O man,

This blog is all about semantics.

If you had a PhD in English, you would be a god here.

Thulsa Doom

January 31st, 2013
11:12 pm

Semantics warfare. Brutal stuff.

RB from Gwinnett

January 31st, 2013
11:12 pm

“They are going to tell you what you “mean””

They can try, MB, but Aquasilly ain’t all that sharp if you know what I mean. The funny part is watching her post sillyness thinking she is.

Thulsa Doom

January 31st, 2013
11:15 pm

Moonbat,

Could be a lot worse. At least semantics tap dance king Adam isn’t here.

Aquagirl

January 31st, 2013
11:19 pm

Semantics warfare. Brutal stuff.

Well at least there are no claims anyone advocated shooting galleries filled with kids, so it could be worse.

moonbat betty

January 31st, 2013
11:20 pm

TD,

Quiet, don’t wake up the dog pile!

bman.

January 31st, 2013
11:20 pm

there’s no one to argue with…

moonbat betty

January 31st, 2013
11:21 pm

Sheesh.

Dog pile up….

moonbat betty

January 31st, 2013
11:23 pm

bman,

Not u.

U r ok

Oscar

January 31st, 2013
11:24 pm

Betty – you got that right

RB from Gwinnett

January 31st, 2013
11:25 pm

Aquahater, let me give you a tip. If you don’t want to believe in God, don’t. It’s that simple, just don’t. There’s nothing for you gain by hating those of us who do simply because we choose to belive something different than you. We wish no harm to you, we won’t chase you down and force you to believe, nothing of the sort. Just don’t believe and leave us alone. Do you think you can go a day with that and check the hate at the keyboard? You know, actually practice some of that tolerance you liberals are famous for preaching?

bman.

January 31st, 2013
11:27 pm

Aquagirl .. .. I’m not exactly a religious person, but I sort of figure that those blue skies and oceans had to get there somehow. They do have man-made snow, but it’s not really the same thing.

You better believe in God….just in case

Thulsa Doom

January 31st, 2013
11:34 pm

bman.

January 31st, 2013
11:20 pm
there’s no one to argue with…

Adam retired early tonight he did?

Thulsa Doom

January 31st, 2013
11:36 pm

“Well at least there are no claims anyone advocated shooting galleries filled with kids, so it could be worse.”

I dunno. You sure about that? I’m sure its only a matter of time before the cat accuses me of that just as he accuses me of “applauding” the Newtown massacre.

keith

January 31st, 2013
11:43 pm

bookman, why are liberals like you such liars? liberals claimed the father of a Sandy Hook victim was heckled. Liberals edited the tape to make it look like that. NEVER HAPPENED. So I ask you bookman, why are you liberals such liars?

Oscar

January 31st, 2013
11:47 pm

jay is still at the state house looking for an ethical state representative

getalife

January 31st, 2013
11:49 pm

keefer,

cons are not liars that live in a make believe world where “facts don’t matter”?

Really?

Anyhoo, any progress on “fixing the gop”yet?

keith

January 31st, 2013
11:50 pm

bookman, do you agree with hagel that irans govt was duly elected and legitimate?

Aquagirl

January 31st, 2013
11:51 pm

We wish no harm to you, we won’t chase you down and force you to believe, nothing of the sort.

Tripping over your own hypocrisy really got your nose out of joint, didn’t it? Keep absolutely busted you when you hit yourself in the face with your own god bludgeon. And we lol’ed.

If you state “we’re not capable of understanding the ways and means of God” then your full gargantuan ego is obvious when you start saying other people should do X Y, or Z because that’s how god wants it done.

I tried to be nice and not rub your nose in your mess, but noooooooo….you just had to squall, scream and try to trash-talk. Yeah, there’s the light of Jeebus shining through a true servant.

Thulsa Doom

January 31st, 2013
11:51 pm

This is why I don’t cry for Aquasilly when she’saccused of saying really silly stuff or whatever. She’s so intent on his trolling she can end up saying insane stuff.

Soothsayer

January 31st, 2013
11:51 pm

Well, it looks like there’s plenty of vitriol to go around tonight — especially here on Bookman’s blog.

Just loaded the woodstove up for the night. If you get the chance go outside for a minute. It’s such a crystal-clear night, it’s unbelievable. The moon is just now rising in the east. Waning, you know.

Good night, everyone. I hope you all sleep well.

keith

January 31st, 2013
11:52 pm

i provided a factual case where you liberals edited tape to make it look like a poor father of a murdered child was heckled. why would msnbc do such a vile and disgusting thing. liberals are shameful.

Aquagirl

January 31st, 2013
11:56 pm

Sooth is right, time to hit the hay for those of us who aren’t hitting the bottle. :)

getalife

January 31st, 2013
11:59 pm

Israel is engaging in Syria and France is winning Mali.

Time to rest the troops.

moonbat betty

February 1st, 2013
12:01 am

moonbat betty

February 1st, 2013
12:03 am

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh! get.

you know what they say….

snitches get stiches.

getalife

February 1st, 2013
12:11 am

No snitching.

Facts.

JACKIE

February 1st, 2013
12:18 am

POINT 01: HOW CAN THE WORD “reform” BE USED TO DESCRIBE CHANGING OUR LAWS TO ALLOW 11M. VIOLATIONS OF IMMIGRATION LAW?

POINT 02: WHAT HAS CHANGED ABOUT THE CURRENT SITUATION VS THE 1986 AMNESTY? AT THAT TIME CONGRESS TOLD THE VOTERS THAT THIS WAS THE LAST, FOREVER AMNESTY PROGRAM. IN THE TWO YEARS PRIOR TO 1986, MORE PEOPLE CROSSED THE BORDER ILLEGALLY THAN HAD CROSSED IN THE PRIOR 20 YEARS, IN ANTICIPATION OF THE AMNESTY.

POINT 03: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A REPORTER DO AN ANALYSIS OF THE 1986 AMNESTY VS THE CURRENT PROGRAM.

POINT 04: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANOTHER ANALYSIS OF OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS AND HOW WE ENFORCE THEM AND OTHER COUNTRY’S IMMIGRATION LAWS AND THEIR ENFORCEMENT. WE COULD DO CANADA AND MEXICO.

POINT 05: WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SAY TO ALL THE APPLICANTS WORLD WIDE WHO HAVE SPENT YEARS TRYING TO GET A GREEN CARD TO COME HERE?

POINT 06: WILL THE AMNESTY PROGRAM APPLY TO ALL COUNTRIES WORLD WIDE OR JUST MEXICO?

POINT 07:DO WE HAVE A GRAPH SHOWING HOW MANY UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE ARE WORKING IN THE SO CALLED JOBS THAT AMERICANS WILL NOT DO? I HAVE A FEELING THAT THE UNSKILLED LABOR FORCE WILL BE DEMANDING MORE MONEY OR BETTER JOBS.

getalife

February 1st, 2013
12:22 am

Jackie,

They have to write the bill first silly.

Jackie

February 1st, 2013
12:25 am

@JACKIE

First time on this blog?

Oscar

February 1st, 2013
12:27 am

Sooth – Thanks. Went outside for a minute. It’s really a beautiful night. Makes our little problems seem pretty small.

Jackie

February 1st, 2013
12:27 am

Wonder if some do not have enough courage of their conviction to stand behind their own “belief?”

Jackie

February 1st, 2013
12:39 am

@JACKIE

It appears that you have retreated.
I will look forward to our meeting and conversation on this blog later.

JACKIE

February 1st, 2013
12:47 am

TO JACKIE, SORRY, NEXT TIME I WILL BE JACKIE B. I AM GREEN.

Joel Edge

February 1st, 2013
5:46 am

“However, a cessation of active hostility might, just might, allow the party to compete for some of those votes in the future.”
No call on the moral implications of ignoring the illegality of the problem, Jay. And what would we be competing for, the votes of people who are more than willing to break the law? Compete for these people’s good favor. What would be next? Set up recruiting offices in the prisons and start handing out pardons?
‘Need a ride to your drug supplier, we can do that, but remember to vote for us.’
At what point does the vote buying end?

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 1st, 2013
5:55 am

Grand Friday morning to all y’all…

http://cheezburger.com/7007410688

stands for decibels

February 1st, 2013
6:00 am

No call on the moral implications of ignoring the illegality of the problem, Jay.

Huh? That’s not been ducked. As has been sensibly suggested, we could fine anyone being amnestyed a hundre bucks[1], so that these “Criminals” could be “Punished.” and then the usual suspects could just shut it.

(Ok, I’m just kidding about that last part. They’ll never stop crying and shouting at clouds.)

1. if that doesn’t sound like much, it’s likely a boatload more as a percentage of personal wealth than any bankster CEO has forked over for screwing up the economy.

Peace

February 1st, 2013
6:37 am

Do not understand why the primary focus of ‘immigration reform’ is directed at Latinos, while there is such a deliberate effort to interfere with illegal immigration when it applies to those of Middle Eastern origin. Would it be different if the country south of the U.S. border was predominantly Muslim/Islamic? Just wondering.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

February 1st, 2013
6:51 am

Let’s start the day with a little happy swing and stop all discord… ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwjmzexK8L8

Selena

February 1st, 2013
7:03 am

Does this mean that Chip Roger’s gambling buddy, convicted felon, and white supremacist author and racebaiter D.A. King might have to get a real job for the first time in his life.

stands for decibels

February 1st, 2013
7:18 am

Thulsa, if you’re around, I noticed this, from wayyy earlier:

The cat’s assertion that I “applauded” the Newtown massacre is simply beyond stupid.

Unless/until he can provide evidence to the contrary I will accept this version of events.

/soap opera

stands for decibels

February 1st, 2013
7:23 am

Would it be different if the country south of the U.S. border was predominantly Muslim/Islamic?

While I get your point, there’s a problem with your hypothetical, because…if the country south of the U.S. border was predominantly Muslim/Islamic, we’d likely not freak out over members of that faith nearly so often as we are wont to do. It’d be more a part of American culture–Southwestern states would have lots of cities with Arabic names instead of Spanish ones, Christian kids might even say “Allahu Akbar” non-ironically before taking a test, etc.

Granny Godzilla

February 1st, 2013
7:25 am

“No call on the moral implications of ignoring the illegality of the problem, Jay.”

Golly, there appears to have been no call for moral behavior towards people
less fortunate either.

Tundra Dude

February 1st, 2013
7:40 am

Granny:
Not to make you homesick, but it’s 2 degrees up here. ;-)
(I’m stuck up here another 3-4 months, guess I’ll survive)

stands for decibels

February 1st, 2013
7:41 am

Golly, there appears to have been no call for moral behavior towards people less fortunate either.

So we’re even-steven then. Sehr gut!

stands for decibels

February 1st, 2013
7:45 am

Some heartwarming news (to me–it’s a coupla days old now). Apparently Georgia isn’t the only state in the union with certified 24-karat jackass state Senators.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/jan/30/idaho-senator-compares-health-exchange-holocaust/

BOISE – As the debate over Idaho Gov. Butch Otter’s proposed state health insurance exchange heats up, a North Idaho senator has sent out a mass email and posted a message on Twitter comparing the role of insurance companies to “the Jews boarding the trains to concentration camps,” saying the federal government is using private insurers and in the future will “pull the trigger” on them.

Sen. Sheryl Nuxoll, R-Cottonwood, defends her analogy. “I just want people to hear the truth and to be aware that what is being presented before us is a socialistic program,” Nuxoll said Wednesday. “There is no disrespect for any group or people with the analogy. … I just want people to know the truth.”

here’s my favorite part, oom-pah-pah mine:

Nuxoll said she made the analogy because “I felt badly for the Jews – it wasn’t just Jews, but Jews, and Christians, and Catholics, and priests. My thing was they didn’t know what was going on. The insurance companies are not realizing what’s going to end up in their demise.”

Georgia, you just gonna sit and take that? Get your head in the game!

Granny Godzilla

February 1st, 2013
7:46 am

Tundra Dude

Actually does make me a little homesick….

Keep safe and warm.

stands for decibels

February 1st, 2013
7:48 am

Gotta add–I’m still awestruck by “My thing was they didn’t know what was going on.”

Someone get this chick a shovel. I want to see just how deep she can dig.

stands for decibels

February 1st, 2013
7:50 am

Grand Friday morning to all y’all…

[golf clap]

Tundra Dude

February 1st, 2013
7:53 am

Granny:
Just bein’ nosy…
you been down there a long time…?

DannyX

February 1st, 2013
7:58 am

Obama’s immigration policy is based on making sure Latino voters keep voting for Democrats? Not if you look at the whole picture.

From an anti-deportation website unhappy with the country’s current deportation policy,

“These numbers are unprecedented: by 2014 President Obama will have deported over 2 million people – more in six years than all people deported before 1997. “

DannyX

February 1st, 2013
7:59 am

“These numbers are unprecedented: by 2014 President Obama will have deported over 2 million people – more in six years than all people deported before 1997. “

Forgot to add the link

http://stopdeportationsnow.blogspot.com/2013/01/mapping-shift-from-border-to-interior_7232.html

Granny Godzilla

February 1st, 2013
8:01 am

Tundra

I’m on my second tour of duty in the south…

Spent 8 years in Jackson MS, then a couple years in Detroit….
Been in Atlanta nearly 20 years.

Taking my POP out for Valentines day in Chicago, so I’ll get a
taste of the old north wind.

ANd you?

Granny Godzilla

February 1st, 2013
8:02 am

Danny X

Read that last night….

cue the but, but, but….

Mick

February 1st, 2013
8:05 am

This is kind of off topic but….on tuesday gas was $3.43 a gallon and on friday as I scanned the signs it was up to $3.69! Twent six cents in three days, what gives? Oh yeah, almost forgot that they can yank our chain at will. Oil companies, most powerful entities on earth…

Thug

February 1st, 2013
8:05 am

Fulton County voter fraud probe. The bitter clinger John Lewis
proposing legislation to make it easier to cheat by the bitter/clinger
John Lewis…coincidence? I think not.

stands for decibels

February 1st, 2013
8:06 am

Granny, you around?

If you don’t mind me getting all soap-operatic, what’s your take on “the cat” characterizing Thulsa Doom’s post-Newtown shooting posts as “applauding” the kids’ deaths?

No, I haven’t gone rooting around in the archives to check, but I am sure this is at least something of an exaggeration and it’s wrong for cat to deliberately mischaracterize it as such (no matter how much of a derriere-chapeau our Doom can be at times).

But, and this is the reason I ask, Doom said that you and cat were supposedly the only two who took him to task for being insensitive, at the time.

So, I figured you kinda had a cat in this fight, so to speak.