If Washington’s tone has changed, this is why
Here’s what President Obama’s job-approval numbers look like, from Sept. 1 to today, as compiled from major polls by RealClearPolitics:
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It’s also interesting to look at the polls individually. Here’s a list of every major survey conducted in the month of January on the question of job approval. As you’ll notice, one of the numbers is not like the others:
Every poll but one reports an eight-to-12-point differential between job approval and disapproval. I won’t mention the identity of the outlier.
And finally, we have this, which helps to explain why, despite passionate promises to the contrary, the Republicans will not be pushing the government into default or shutting down the government anytime soon:
– Jay Bookman
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stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
7:57 am
The destabilization of the Middle East/N Africa being actively advanced by this administration is very dangerous and cynical.
Actively?
You really think the destabilization’s being pushed, that he didn’t jump out the window, so to speak?
I hate the kill list, I hate that Obama’s too much of a pu$$y to just executive-order the guys out of Gitmo and get them tried in criminal courts, etc., ok? But I don’t think I’m gonna die on your hill, sorry. (You can cue up the Phil Ochs if you like, maybe I’ll have it comin’.)
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 31st, 2013
7:59 am
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
7:53 am
Considering the economy…
Considering your selective bouts of allegedly bipartisan poutrage, how do you feel about private companies directing the FBI’s antiterrorist activities to include targeting peaceful leafleteers and videographers?
Funny how a freedom-lover like you never seems to have the energy to say “boo” about that.
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It’s a disgrace……………….I just don’t waste my “poutrage” on State worshippers like ya’ll.
There are far worse things that your beloved Uncle Scam is doing to you now (and people worldwide) but what will you do.?
You will continue to vote to further empower him………..every…..chance…….you…….get.
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weird.
alex
January 31st, 2013
7:59 am
@GT (Ramblin’ man) you forgot your lithium this am…I like Lipton, I get it by the case at Cosco, a lot of sugar and lemon, now that is good TEA.
@Granny, I’m worried with the 0.1% contraction of the economy, I know you and the hubbie like to use his frequent flyer miles and get to the beach-but those vacations could be in jepardy..I am NOT blaming just Obama, the whole country is to blame including and mabye MOSTLY congress, but you can put carpet over rotten floors, but eventually you’ll fall threw…personal responsibility should tell you that!!
Fred ™
January 31st, 2013
7:59 am
I see that Nate Silver is the new talk Radio/FOXBOT talking point. Have you actually red the book alex or are you just going by Rush’s interpretation if it? I’m betting that you haven’t even held a copy of the book in your hands…….
It’s funny your shrill insistence that the FOX poll the one that is so different from the others is the *right* one. They also predicted a Romney landslide right?
DownInAlbany
January 31st, 2013
8:03 am
This Weekly Standard blogster’s piece you quoted, on the other hand, is silly.
In the same realm as Jay’s,
“If Washington’s tone has changed, this is why”?
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
8:03 am
alex
I can understand your concern, but frankly I think you are over-reacting.
There was so much other good news in a quarter that included massive hurrican damage
and debt ceiling games….
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 31st, 2013
8:05 am
Progs are so greedy.
I got mine…everything going good…………………..eff the rest.
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Detroit?
What Detroit?
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lol
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 31st, 2013
8:08 am
A “friend” sent me this site…thought I’d share…I think it’s funny!
http://woodstermangotwood.blogspot.com/2012/06/where-to-put-number-44.html
GT
January 31st, 2013
8:09 am
Igor the donkey is a southern Republican who has lived in poverty all his life but for some reason wants this one blamed on Obama. Somewhere in this blame you might think finishing last economically for a century is some our fault? It is about the only consistent thing we do down here.
Fred ™
January 31st, 2013
8:10 am
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 31st, 2013
8:05 am
Progs are so greedy.
I got mine…everything going good…………………..eff the rest.
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Aren’t you the personal responsibility party? Where is that mantra now? Quit whining and go out and get a job. Oh and clean your room. Your mom said she is tired of that smell coming from her basement.
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
8:10 am
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 31st, 2013
8:05 am
Progs are so greedy.
I got mine…everything going good…………………..eff the rest.
eff the rest.???
eff the rest.???
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Balderdash.
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:12 am
.I just don’t waste my “poutrage” on State worshippers like ya’ll.
oh, I see. So when McCartheyite crap gets doled out to defective people who have it coming, you’ll not bother to complain. Got it.
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:12 am
SfD,
John McCain and Co. see your 27th and raise you any number of re-elections. Yes, I know, McCain hardly needs the money. The point is simply that if you can indeed vote yourself a raise.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 31st, 2013
8:12 am
Stands, I don’t think the ultimate goal is destabilization of course. But yes, the goal is for certain remaining regimes to go the way of Gaddafi, e.g. Assad, while in other cases propping up existing regimes – Mali. The “junior” partners in the French are engaged here at the moment, but the UK and US are closely involved and ready to step in at any point, from what it appears.
Bottom line is that we are witnessing a whole new “scramble for Africa” as the major world powers try to shore up their struggling economies and their hegemony. It cannot end well.
alex
January 31st, 2013
8:13 am
@ Fred , Read it, understood it abd believe it in the setting of having read other material on stats and in a field that uses the concepts daily..don’t be so closed minded and obnoxious, read the book or stay ignorant, your choice, but accussing others of lying about wanting better information is obnoxious..you teach yourdaughter that,…? You can read the garbage in this blog on charts that Jay spews or question it, be a lemming and a fool, not me. Foxbot..,come up with something more interesting, 1 word trash talk, you teach your daughter that too, great role model, grow uo man.
Granny, hope your right, what is the other good news.anyhting on deficeit reduction other than a lot of posturing on BOTH sides
straitroad
January 31st, 2013
8:14 am
It would be interesting to see what the poll numbers would be if obama was held to a similar standard as other presidents by the press. He has been protected to the point of embarrassment on economic issues and the majority of the population is dumbed down to believe what they are told by media favorable to obama because of his strict adherence to liberal ideology, regardless of the imact it has on our economic stability. George H.W. Bush received almost complete blame for the economy during his presidency and ultimately lost a 2nd term even though the economy at that time was better than it is now. Yet, obama continues to get a free pass from the press and a largely uninformed electorate is told that things are getting better when reality does not square with this retoric.
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:14 am
What’s this “I got mine…” failure at projection coming from Heyward. Lame dude. Really.
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
8:15 am
Welcome
It sure can end well.
We did it, they can do.
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:16 am
Thanks for that clarification @ 8.12, Occupation.
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
8:17 am
alex
you mean you did not read beyond the headlines?
tsk tsk tsk
NPR 90.1 did a great piece on it last night.
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:18 am
And deficit reduction will happen by design. The Republicans promised us, via their faith in the Heritage Club, that their tax cuts will pay for themselves just as soon as the unemployment rate settles in for the long haul at about 2.8%, give or take. So, all we have left to deal with is the borrowing used to pay for them thar wars and that prescription drug company benefit, etc. Nothing that a little sequester can’t handle.
Fred ™
January 31st, 2013
8:18 am
alex
January 31st, 2013
8:13 am
@ Fred , Read it, understood it abd believe it in the setting of having read other material on stats and in a field that uses the concepts daily..don’t be so closed minded and obnoxious, read the book or stay ignorant, your choice, but accussing others of lying about wanting better information is obnoxious..you teach yourdaughter that,…? You can read the garbage in this blog on charts that Jay spews or question it, be a lemming and a fool, not me. Foxbot..,come up with something more interesting, 1 word trash talk, you teach your daughter that too, great role model, grow uo man.
Granny, hope your right, what is the other good news.anyhting on deficeit reduction other than a lot of posturing on BOTH sides
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How typical for a hate filled loser republican. Attack a man’s children. You are beneath scum.
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:18 am
Is there even one sentence in “straitroad’s” crybaby rant @ 8.14 that doesn’t shrivel and implode in the light of day?
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
8:18 am
straitroad
January 31st, 2013
8:14 am
It would be interesting to see what the poll numbers would be if obama was held to a similar standard as other presidents by the press
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sounds like Sarah “WHO?” Palin.
Fred ™
January 31st, 2013
8:19 am
Corbin: Freaking hilarious. I’ve already texted that to several people.
Jay
January 31st, 2013
8:20 am
Unfortunately for you, Alex, I have read Silver’s book. Among other things, he says that outliers such as the Fox poll are almost always exactly that — outliers, with not much if any value. The whole basis of his predictive method is basically to brush the outliers aside as false signals or noise, and go with the poll average instead.
In other words, if you’re going to come in here and impress us with your book learning, you’re going to have to do better than this.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
January 31st, 2013
8:20 am
These are salad days for liberals and other Obamaphiles. Bookman’s got the charts and figures to prove it.
Perhaps the faithful needed a bit of a boost after yesterday’s gloomy economic report.
Be afraid, you old white, male fogies. Be very afraid. Your only comfort now is your guns and religion (and Viagra). Thank God for Viagra.
Funny, in all the gloating, you still don’t see many comments that actually extoll BHO’s accomplishments, four years in. Besides getting even, that is to say.
Abosolution is rampant, however. Sure, things are still pretty crappy, but It’s not Obama’s fault (yet).
President Payback is certainly a likable man though, isn’t he? That is if he likes you. Are there any victims in the house?
America’s going through a period of extended adolescence. What appeals to us now is superficial charm. The last guy we want to listen to is the authority figure who brought us into this world and lectured us constantly on individual virtues like responsibility and industry. He tells us there is no guarantee in life. You gotta work for it.
This same guy has provided for us our whole life, but now we turn a deaf ear to him. He’s provided pretty well for our needs. He taught us how to stand on our own two feet.
He embarrasses us by his mere existence too. And face it, some of his ideas are old fashioned – heck maybe even wrong. But he’s a human being, not a Messiah – like….
But sooner or later, superficial charm wears off. The Obama magic will be revealed as just that – illusion.
Obama’s leadership – for all it’s supposed charm to many – isn’t sustainable. It’s built on revenge. It’s served to further polarize America. He’s a crusader – a social reformer. He’d rather eat one of John Boehner’s sweat socks than compromise. He’s burdened to some extent by the notion of his perceived moral superiority. You don’t compromise your morals.
You don’t pump blood into a flaccid economy with more regulations and taxes either, but I guess that’s beside the point. Another Viagra reference. I guess I know where my mind is today.
But like the cocky adolescent, sooner or later, America will have to come to the realization that the old farts who brought us into the world were right all along.
And Barack Obama? He’ll be guest starring on Love Boat, the Next Generation.
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:20 am
Darn. Where are the deficit scolds?
Stevie, Jm, come on, start crying about President Trillions! I need my morning elixir.
Paul
January 31st, 2013
8:21 am
In an effort to preempt a new round of creative facts repeated by NRA supporters (a longshot hope, I know) I offer this (with credit to USinUK):
“Committee Chairman Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) reminded LaPierre that the NRA once supported checks with “no loopholes anywhere, for anyone.” So does the NRA favor closing the “gun-show loophole” that allows people to avoid background checks?
“We do not,” LaPierre replied.
His reasoning, as always, is that existing gun laws aren’t being enforced — but he seems to have pulled the evidence out of his gun barrel. “Out of more than 76,000 firearms purchases supposedly denied by the federal instant check system, only 62 were referred for prosecution,” LaPierre declared in his opening statement.
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) looked up the actual statistic. “In 2012 more than 11,700 defendants were charged with federal gun crimes,” Whitehouse said, “a lot more than 62.”
LaPierre had been caught. “So those — the 62, senator, statistic, was for Chicago alone,” he clarified, a salient fact omitted from his original testimony.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-at-hill-hearing-wayne-lapierre-tries-to-manhandle-facts-and-logic/2013/01/30/e31a305e-6b2e-11e2-af53-7b2b2a7510a8_story.html
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
8:23 am
Escaped from Email Purgatory
January 31st, 2013
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Which means you have yet to pay your debt to society?
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:23 am
The point is simply that if you can indeed vote yourself a raise.
not to put too fine a point on it (I get the general disgust over being ruled by horrible people who have a lifetime key to the Village, and all), but isn’t the pay-raise situation legislated to be dependent upon COLA adjustments, which they can choose to vote down if they wish?
Jay
January 31st, 2013
8:24 am
It’s also interesting to see so, so many iterations of the basic GOP mindset:
“If the world disagrees with me, it’s the world’s fault for being stupid.” The notion that maybe, just maybe, the world is right and you’re wrong must never be entertained.
Doggone/GA
January 31st, 2013
8:25 am
“………….Where does one get these free Obama Rose-Colored glasses?”
There aren’t any…all you have to do is take off your blinders
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:26 am
“Out of more than 76,000 firearms purchases supposedly denied by the federal instant check system, only 62 were referred for prosecution,”
Gun nuts lie a lot; and that particular fish rots from the head back.
Brother
January 31st, 2013
8:27 am
Thank you President Obama for those free planes and jets…we will use them on our enemy! The money will be well spent too!
DannyX
January 31st, 2013
8:28 am
“Perhaps the faithful needed a bit of a boost after yesterday’s gloomy economic report.”
Escaped from Email Purgatory, that was a long winded post that basically said nothing. Why don’t you give us your analysis of the “gloomy economic report”? Tell us why the economy declined slightly last quarter. Tell us why the GDP could fall again this year.
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 31st, 2013
8:30 am
Escaped from Email Purgatory
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Additionally …….and even sadder is…..to our children and grandchildren…………THESE will have been the “good ole days”…despite the cronic unemployment, record poverty levels, rampert crime.destruction of the family, etc…………….
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Until we de-centralize the Power and corruption of Washington, it’s all down hill.
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:32 am
“If Washington’s tone has changed, this is why”?
Hi, Downin–glad you’re here, as I was typing I was thinking “this is SO going to be dead-threaded…”
Jay’s staking his thesis to a bunch of polls covering a few months. I think he’s got a more solid case than they Weekly Standard guy, but YMMV of course.
Fred ™
January 31st, 2013
8:34 am
Brother
January 31st, 2013
8:27 am
Thank you President Obama for those free planes and jets…we will use them on our enemy! The money will be well spent too!
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Sometimes the useless garbage that the right winger trolls post here just goes over my head. This post is one of them. I know this little feller thinks he has really posted a clever zinger, but it is totally lost on me.
Anyone got a clue what the poor little guy is trying to say?
Escaped from Email Purgatory
January 31st, 2013
8:34 am
As one who’s imposing the basic GOP mindset on your faithful readers, I guess I’d like to see some evidence that Obama’s leadership is improving America – like significant reductions in unemployment, the deficit and a strong upturn in the economy, perhaps.
The smug notion, as articulated by guys like you Bookman, that those ouf us who aren’t smitten by Obama are bitter old spoilsports has become cliche.
How about some tangible positive results? results that benefit all Americans. Ultimately it’s about results. It used to be anyway.
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:34 am
I take back a bit of my post @ 8.26. I’ve known some self-described “gun nuts” who were sweet, rational folks, who do not oppose rational regulation of America’s firearms. In fact, I’ve used that term positively on a few occasions, there’s nothing wrong with enjoying bang-shootie things responsibly.
I think “2nd Amendment Absolutists” does a better job of describing the people with whom I take strongest issue, and it’s what I should’ve used. Mea culpa.
DannyX
January 31st, 2013
8:35 am
“THESE will have been the “good ole days”…despite the cronic unemployment, record poverty levels, rampert crime.destruction of the family, etc…………….”
I think the good ole days were when we were enjoying 750,000 a month job losses, GDP declining by 10%, real estate collapse, construction collapse, bank failures, bailouts, and foreclosures.
Good times, good times!
Obama should invade Iraq! Good times, good times!
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:36 am
SfD,
With regards to your comment earlier that “they have to pay for it,” well, yes, it comes out of their paycheck but the fact remains that they are not restrained by a fixed income such that any cost of living increases take a bigger bite out of their total budget when they have the ability to simply increase the pay to offset the increased expenditures. I only wish my pension worked that way. Then again, once I reach social security age, perhaps I will gain an appreciation of COLA.
DannyX
January 31st, 2013
8:36 am
So in other words, Escaped from Email Purgatory, you have nothing!
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:37 am
like significant reductions in unemployment, the deficit and a strong upturn in the economy, perhaps.
why do people cling to the notion that those THREE things somehow work in concert with one another?
I’ve said it a kajillion times, but that middle item is doing ok on its own. We should be willing to allow the middle item to find its own way and focus on the bookends.
4 More...and you can not do a thing about it....see you Repubs in 2016...and expect "another" defeat....
January 31st, 2013
8:38 am
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TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:38 am
I see Escaped from Purgatory has not benefitted from the upswing in the economy. Yet he claims to have escaped purgatory. Hmmmm! Could he be referring to the Bush years perhaps.
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 31st, 2013
8:40 am
DannyX
January 31st, 2013
8:35 am
“THESE will have been the “good ole days”…despite the cronic unemployment, record poverty levels, rampert crime.destruction of the family, etc…………….”
I think the good ole days were when we were enjoying 750,000 a month job losses, GDP declining by 10%, real estate collapse, construction collapse, bank failures, bailouts, and foreclosures.
Good times, good times!
Obama should invade Iraq! Good times, good times!
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So the Gang of 535 will fix what they first destroyed?
okay.
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One born every minute.
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:40 am
I only wish my pension worked that way.
85% of private sector workers say “what is this ‘pension’ you speak of?”
/cheep-shotz-r-us
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:41 am
That gloomy economic report had a bunch of sequester-equivalent spending cuts in it. Cuts in military and other government expenditures. Republicans should be thrilled.
straitroad
January 31st, 2013
8:41 am
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
8:18 am
Granny, I’m not sure what you mean with that comment. My point is that obama is held to a lower standard, which he routinely meets.
Paul
January 31st, 2013
8:41 am
Fred
The guy probably works for Northrup or Grumman and is referring to the billions of dollars Congress appropriates each year for aircraft the military doesn’t want, hasn’t ask for and is trying to get rid of.
Let’s see, if those thing make it out of Republican committees and a Republican House, it’s… it’s… Obama’s fault!!!
stands
“I’ve known some self-described “gun nuts” who were sweet, rational folks, who do not oppose rational regulation of America’s firearms.”
As we’ve read here, the majority of gun owners are in favor of new regulations, in direct contrast with NRA leadership.
I like that term ‘2nd Amendment Absolutists” and will steal it for posts elsewhere.
Y’know, given that Justice Scalia disagrees with the absolutists, it’s just a matter of time before they label Scalia a ‘liberal RHINO.”
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
8:42 am
“The notion that maybe, just maybe, the world is right and you’re wrong must never be entertained.”
well, see, that’s the perque of CLAIMING that you’re the party of God and religious values – once you plant your flag in that ground, you can immediately declare victory and say that everyone else is wrong.
Paul
January 31st, 2013
8:43 am
correction: should have written “the billions of dollars Congress has appropriated over the years for…”
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 31st, 2013
8:44 am
4 More…and you can not do a thing about it….see you Repubs in 2016…and expect “another” defeat….
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That picture always looks like a cheap prison tattoo.
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Apt.
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
8:44 am
straitroad
January 31st, 2013
8:41 am
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
8:18 am
Granny, I’m not sure what you mean with that comment.
not surprised
My point is that obama is held to a lower standard, which he routinely meets.
poppycock
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:44 am
I like that term ‘2nd Amendment Absolutists” and will steal it for posts elsewhere.
You could shorthand it as “2nd Amendment Hawks”–I’ve done that in the past. Problem with that term is, I think it sounds a little too complimentary to people who (IMHO) maintain a pretty loathsome view of humanity.
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:45 am
(see also “Deficit Hawks” vs. “Deficit Scolds.”)
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
8:46 am
“My point is that obama is held to a lower standard, which he routinely meets.”
bollocks.
give us an example.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 31st, 2013
8:47 am
stands, I have been thinking about “control deniers”
Mick
January 31st, 2013
8:47 am
escaped
Sometimes, the proof is right in front of you yet, you cannot see. How’s about-
1. Stabilized the economy after the previous guys ineptness
2. Stock market way up – my 401k is very healthy
3. US auto’s doing great saving millions of jobs directly/indirectly
4. Bin laden is no more
5. unemployment below 8%
Absolutely way more to go but just 4 short years ago the world was dangling on the edge of a collapse – we take so much for granted…
Fred ™
January 31st, 2013
8:48 am
That picture always looks like a cheap prison tattoo.
We’ll defer to your expertise on cheap prison tats……..
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
8:48 am
“You could shorthand it as “2nd Amendment Hawks””
I prefer “Y“2nd Amendment Idealogues” … (actually, what I REALLY prefer is “2nd Amendment Wankers” …)
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
8:49 am
I saw the term – “gun fetishists”
gm
January 31st, 2013
8:49 am
Guess what? the the conservatives bigots who hates Obama in Georgia now need his help in federal funds for the Tornados that happen yesterday, these are the same conservatives idiots who voted against aid to victims of Sandy.
Now these backwoods conservatves Obama haters in these Georigia counties have there hand out for Government help, if I am Obama I would tell them to get the help from Rush scum Limbaugh and dirt bag Sean Hannity, this is why you have to watch all the stupid things you say about goverment, and not listen to the idots of the tea party.
straitroad
January 31st, 2013
8:49 am
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
8:44 am
It would be a better use of your time to reserve the lower level sacarsm for those who think it’s useful or entertaining. I typically prefer to communicate with those who are more interested in debate rather than snarky, childish comments.
Paul
January 31st, 2013
8:49 am
stands
I could go for “2nd Amendment Ignoramuses” but it probably wouldn’t do much to further the discussion.
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
8:50 am
“I saw the term – “gun fetishists””
50 Shades of 2nd Amendment?
Fred ™
January 31st, 2013
8:50 am
USinUK: Why oh WHY did you heartlessly dismember those beautiful white beans? I was all over that recipe until you put those poor defenseless beans in the blender to puree them……….
RIP little beans……..
Paul
January 31st, 2013
8:50 am
So… where’re the tattoos Thomas has been looking at?
Christian Conservative
January 31st, 2013
8:51 am
Of course his approvals are high. he just won re-election and for some strange reason certain people have hope that he may know what he’s doing this time around. Of course informed people know better. he has been the most ineffective, inept, over his head leader America has ever seen…
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:51 am
sfd,
I worked for da man (aka one of those Fortune 500 companies) during a timeframe when corporate America was doing this transition thingy from defined pensions to the 401k with company contribution, when they feel like it, so when I retired, I got a pension (that does not get cost-of-living adjustments) and a 401k but with fewer years of accumulated contributions than the next wave of retirees should amass over their careers. Such is life. Anyway, I rolled over my 401k to an IRA and I actively manage it along with other holdings myself in an attempt to maintain a suitable monthly benefit going forward. Of course I am assuming that I will eventually get me some social security benefit equipped with COLA in the future as well but that’s a few more years off.
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
8:51 am
straitroad
January 31st, 2013
8:49 am
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
8:44 am
It would be a better use of your time to reserve the lower level sacarsm for those who think it’s useful or entertaining. I typically prefer to communicate with those who are more interested in debate rather than snarky, childish comments.
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I can’t help it if you’re a pill.
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:51 am
I saw the term – “gun fetishists”
I save “fetishists” for the people who sob themselves to sleep (apparently) over “murdered” embryos.
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
8:52 am
Fred – mwahahahahahahahaha!!! die white bean, die!!!!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 31st, 2013
8:52 am
Oh nooooo…. Fred’s a bean hugger!
Fred ™
January 31st, 2013
8:53 am
I typically prefer to communicate with those who are more interested in debate rather than snarky, childish comments.
Really? This isn’t a snarky childish comment?
My point is that obama is held to a lower standard, which he routinely meets.
I think it is. Where is the “debatable” material there? That statement there is a 3 dollar way of saying ”Obama sucks,” not food for thought or debate…………..
DownInAlbany
January 31st, 2013
8:53 am
Paul, you left out a little of the laPierre quote (and, I don’t like him, not a NRA member). That was a ‘gotcha question from the start. The gun show loophole pertains to private individuals not doing back ground checks on gun sales. The vast majority of guns sold at gun shows are by dealers with federal firearm license and they complete background checks or risk that license.
Paul
January 31st, 2013
8:54 am
“I saw the term – “gun fetishists””
ooohhh…. that makes me all tingly.
I see a direct-to-DVD movie in the works… screenplay by USinUK -
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
8:54 am
Fred – just wait til you see what I do to cauliflower on Friday!
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:55 am
I worked for da man (aka one of those Fortune 500 companies) during a timeframe when corporate America was doing this transition thingy from defined pensions to the 401k with company contribution, when they feel like it
My own personal fcrewage was to switch gigs primarily BECAUSE da new “man” had a defined benefit program, only to pull one of those ever-popular switcheroos with lump-sum payouts to a “freedom-lover’s” 401k that turned out to be a f—load lower than initially promised.
Such is life.
yep. Can’t live with the plutocrats, pass the beer nuts.
TaxPayer
January 31st, 2013
8:55 am
straitroad,
In a proper debate, you should consider a reply consisting of data supporting your original premise as a counter to Granny’s retort of “poppycock”.
Just sayin’
gm
January 31st, 2013
8:57 am
Christian Conservative
People like this is why georgia is a joke around the Nation and never in play during voting time, these conservative white christians are the biggest hypocrites to ever pick up a bibble, and the worst type of people, they only care about Jessus when it helps them.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 31st, 2013
8:58 am
DIA, where exactly do you get your information regarding sales at a gun show? If there is no background check, there is no record. So how are you “tracking” private sales to claim that the “majority” are by licensed dealers doing background checks.
DownInAlbany
January 31st, 2013
8:58 am
USinUK – always opinionated and seldom “ladylike”
January 31st, 2013
8:46 am
Did you watch 60 Minutes last Sunday? Kroft marvels at giving softball questions.
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:58 am
The vast majority of guns sold at gun shows are by dealers with federal firearm license and they complete background checks or risk that license.
Is it really? I’ve head wildly different percentages tossed around. (I suspect it’s a bit hard to nail down without some statistical projections since, after all, the private sales aren’t being monitored.)
And I do get that the licensed dealers aren’t the issue, here.
NObama
January 31st, 2013
8:58 am
Bleeding heart liberal press who are all in the tank for Hussein – bite me jaybird
Fred ™
January 31st, 2013
8:59 am
Oh and USinUK? They opened up a Penzey’s in Atlanta and I found a bunch of those weird European spice blends you use. I don’t know if you have ever heard of them before, but they are an online spice store (high end supposedly) that is opening up more and more brick and mortar stores. You should try them out if they ship across the pond. I know there are restrictions and many places can’t……..
http://www.penzeys.com/
stands for decibels
January 31st, 2013
8:59 am
Did you watch 60 Minutes last Sunday?
That’s kind of like asking “Are you in AARP’s target market?”
/drive-by + cheepshotz R us
Paul
January 31st, 2013
8:59 am
USinUK
“well, see, that’s the perque of CLAIMING that you’re the party of God and religious values – once you plant your flag in that ground, you can immediately declare victory and say that everyone else is wrong.”
You talking about some cons on this blog or Hezbollah?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 31st, 2013
9:00 am
Let’s add further: Government and academic studies of gun shows estimate that between 25 and 70 percent of sellers at gun shows are private sellers who are not required to do background checks (ATF, 1999; Wintemute, 2007).
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
9:00 am
“screenplay by USinUK ”
Dirk Dickjaw grabbed Lorena Lovejoy and pulled her close, “Your well-regulated militia does something to me,” he growled, “come here and let me infringe you”
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
9:00 am
Paul – “You talking about some cons on this blog or Hezbollah?”
like there’s a nickel’s worth of difference …
USinUK - always opinionated and seldom "ladylike"
January 31st, 2013
9:02 am
Fred – 8:59 – are you in Atlanta??? if so, hie thee to the Dekalb Farmers Market … best array of spices and at the best prices anywhere
Fred ™
January 31st, 2013
9:04 am
Keep; Bean hugger. That’s great. (I’m about to start a tree hugger garden0
USinUK: Can’t wait. We are now on a semi vegetarian diet. I HAVE to lose weight. I was too fat to ride the rides at Dollywood last year…….. or the horses…….. or the ziplines……. Talk about an eye opener. How can I take my daughter back to Disney if I can’t ride the roller coasters?
I’m just not a huge fan of pureed super thick soups. I’ll keep trying them though.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 31st, 2013
9:04 am
FRED,
back at you…
Christian Conservative
January 31st, 2013
9:04 am
gm
People like this is why georgia is a joke around the Nation and never in play during voting time, these conservative white christians are the biggest hypocrites to ever pick up a bibble, and the worst type of people, they only care about Jessus when it helps them.
Actually since you are certainly in the minority with your Christian bashing you are the embarrassment. You left wing fruits are certainly trying to bring this nation to a close. And you may proceed. But it will be folks like me who will still be standing… What a poor pathetic soul you are….
DownInAlbany
January 31st, 2013
9:04 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 31st, 2013
9:00 am
Let’s add further: Government and academic studies of gun shows estimate that between 25 and 70 percent of sellers at gun shows are private sellers who are not required to do background checks (ATF, 1999; Wintemute, 2007).
Between 25 and 70? Dang that’s a pretty good spread. Seems that any study worth it’s salt could narrow it down just a bit, huh? Sounds like someone was throwing darts…
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2013
9:05 am
USinUK – always opinionated and seldom “ladylike”
January 31st, 2013
9:00 am
“screenplay by USinUK ”
Dirk Dickjaw grabbed Lorena Lovejoy and pulled her close, “Your well-regulated militia does something to me,” he growled, “come here and let me infringe you”
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Thanks for the what might be the best laugh of the day…..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 31st, 2013
9:07 am
Well DIA, I see you are deflecting from your claims. Sounds like you are just making it up and really get bent out of shape when shown to be wrong (again). Your response was rather buffoonish.