Economy takes a fourth-quarter stumble
“The U.S. economy contracted slightly in the final months of 2012, as defense spending plummeted and businesses depleted their inventories, in a surprising development that could give hints of the economic challenges to come.
Gross domestic product fell at a 0.1 percent annual rate in the fourth quarter, the Commerce Department said Wednesday, far below the 1.1 percent gain that analysts had forecast. The number will be revised extensively in the months ahead as more complete data becomes available, but if the number stays in negative territory, it would be the first contraction for the U.S. economy since the second quarter of 2009.”
That’s not good news by any means, but it’s also not as bad as it might appear. In wake of the announcement, for example, the stock market plummeted a whopping 18 points, or 0.13 percent, as of 12:30 p.m. In addition, a new report from ADP, which monitors private-industry hiring, predicts that the economy added a decent 192,000 jobs in January.
“According to the ADP National Employment Report, private sector employers created an average of 183,000 new jobs per month during the last three months,” said Carlos A. Rodriguez, ADP’s president and chief executive officer. “This is an encouraging sign of steady improvement in the job market.”
So what drove the surprising GDP decline? According to the Wall Street Journal, a lot of it can be attributed to a sudden 15 percent reduction in federal spending in the fourth quarter. That was the largest single-quarter drop since 1973. Clearly, taking that much money out of a still-fragile economy had an impact.
To which Sen. Mitch McConnell responded, again according to the WSJ:
“Clearly, we need to address spending. There’s simply no other way to solve the problem.”
– Jay Bookman
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the cat
January 30th, 2013
2:05 pm
From the headlines:
A man who killed a bus driver and took a child into an underground bunker claims to hold “anti-America” views
Gee-there are so many here that fit this picture. And they probably all have guns.
Captain Combustible
January 30th, 2013
2:06 pm
Well….this your boy’s economy….
stands for decibels
January 30th, 2013
2:08 pm
I see the kids have come home early on account of the storm. Have fun baby-sittin’ them, Jay.
/drive-by
Christian Conservative
January 30th, 2013
2:08 pm
the cat:
I disagree. Libs don’t have guns and they are obviously the ones who hate America….
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 30th, 2013
2:08 pm
PS – California, Illinois, New York, Michigan, Nevada, etc – things are going great under their Democratic leadership. Forward.
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so great that ILLINOIS, NY and MICHIGAN all lost congressional seats because residents are MOVING AWAY…………… CA had a loss in population from people fleeing the state but it wasn’t high enough to cause them to lose any seats………. but they are close……….. and most of those fleeing CA went to NEVADA where there is NO STATE INCOME TAX
FORWARD onto better states to LIVE
Recon 0311 2533
January 30th, 2013
2:09 pm
Its the deficit stupid.
TrustObama
January 30th, 2013
2:09 pm
Just goes to show how “propped – up” the economy is. Government spending has been providing an economic boost, but no real stimulus effect.
Redcoat
January 30th, 2013
2:10 pm
decibels……..”You don’t cut your way to prosperity, you morons.”
So, according to decibels……Prosperity = keep spending more than you take in
spending more than you take in = debt
debt = prosperity…..?
Itchy Finger
January 30th, 2013
2:10 pm
When Georgia’s legislature passes a bill that eliminates the state income tax I could only imagine Jay and his fellow libs losing their lunch…
the cat
January 30th, 2013
2:10 pm
Christian Conservative
January 30th, 2013
2:08 pm
the cat:
I disagree. Libs don’t have guns and they are obviously the ones who hate America….
Interesting you assumed I wasn’t talking about liberals.
barking frog
January 30th, 2013
2:11 pm
Recon 0311 2533
Its the deficit stupid.
………………………….
deficits don’t matter.
mm
January 30th, 2013
2:11 pm
“Did u skip math class; it is NOT the GOP that has blown the budget, oh that’s right they don’t even know how to right a budget.”
Yeah, let’s put the GOP back in charge. We can afford to double the debt again and lose another 8 million jobs.
We should require IQ tests for voters. Anyone with a score under 80 would not be eligible to vote. That should eliminate almost all republicans.
AmericaShrugged
January 30th, 2013
2:11 pm
Pretty sure Keynes wrote that deficit spending was a good idea when you’re in a recession, but when you get out of the recession you’re supposed to pay it back. In fact the defiit spending leads to a swifter recovery, which increases the tax base and also supports tax rate increases. We’ve run deficits for 12 years now in good times or bad and that won’t work indefinitely.
Redcoat
January 30th, 2013
2:13 pm
Down is up……bad is good……prosperity is more debt……?
ATL Tiger
January 30th, 2013
2:13 pm
It’s just a fact that Obama’s “recovery” has never been much of one. Obama’s trickle-down government policies have failed. Staggering deficits have investors freaked; the constant push to punish the rich has employers freaked; crippling regulations have small business freaked; and this ongoing uncertainty and the non-stop removing of money from the private economy trickles down to a point where something’s got to give. And the victims are who they always are: the poor and the jobless.
Morality?
January 30th, 2013
2:14 pm
Calm before the storm……. gub’ment spending down? Guess Obama cut back on his vacations.
mm
January 30th, 2013
2:14 pm
“When Georgia’s legislature passes a bill that eliminates the state income tax I could only imagine Jay and his fellow libs losing their lunch…”
The only reason Florida was able to eliminate the state income tax is because of the revenue taken in rom tourists. How’s Georgia going to replace that revenue? Because nobody in their right mind wants to vacation in GA.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2013
2:14 pm
Its the stupid that causes the deficit. See Bush.
Erwin's cat
January 30th, 2013
2:15 pm
mm – We should require IQ tests for voters. Anyone with a score under 80 would not be eligible to vote. That should eliminate almost all republicans.
seems the left opposes this…unless in suites you
Uh Huh....Bush Outspent Obama 2 to 1
January 30th, 2013
2:16 pm
@rightwingextreme
January 30th, 2013
1:45 pm
Can you imagine where this country would be right now if
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“IF” if were a fifth we’d all be DRUNK.
Despite what Republicans and Conservatives think,
George Bush still out-spent Barack Obama by more than 2 to 1.
The Congressional Budget Office and The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, tells the story of George Bush and his spending ways, and how he turned a surplus into a deficit beginning in 2002, and how that deficit grew each year until he left office in 2009.
•The Bush wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, along with Defense – $1.5 Trillion added to the deficit.
•The Bush Tax Cuts – $1.8 Trillion added to the deficit.
•Non-Defense Discretionary spending under George Bush – $608 Billion added to the deficit.
•Bush Tarp and other Bailouts – $224 Billion added to the deficit.
•Bush’s Medicare Drug Policies – $180 Billion added to the deficit.
•Bush’s Stimulus and other spending – #773 Billion added to the deficit.
mm
January 30th, 2013
2:17 pm
Jay, I love how you bait these cons into showing the world how ignorant they are.
bookman parrot
January 30th, 2013
2:17 pm
couldn’t blame the BHO admin…. must be Bush admin’s fault
Grasshopper
January 30th, 2013
2:18 pm
“So what drove the surprising GDP decline?”
The realization that Obama will have 4 more years. Simple enough.
Itchy Finger
January 30th, 2013
2:19 pm
mm
“When Georgia’s legislature passes a bill that eliminates the state income tax I could only imagine Jay and his fellow libs losing their lunch…”
The only reason Florida was able to eliminate the state income tax is because of the revenue taken in rom tourists. How’s Georgia going to replace that revenue? Because nobody in their right mind wants to vacation in GA.
By raising sales taxes so everyone has skin in the game. Its only fair… But libs don’t understand fairness now do they???
Rubberman
January 30th, 2013
2:19 pm
McConnell’s fat jowels are clearly inhibiting the flow of oxygen to his brain. Just a little more fat and, well … think oxygen starvation.
CC
January 30th, 2013
2:20 pm
The economy “stumbled”, eh? What a huge surprise!
Let’s not go off half-cocked in an attempt to get this out-of-control federal spending under control. We need to devise some other plan of action!
I know! Let’s give legal status to 11 million (more like 18-20 million) illegal aliens! They can then add even more stress to our overburdened welfare rolls. Think of the economic boom in unpaid hospital and medical bills! We can then do something about increasing the Obamacare rolls since that has been so helpful to our economy by making former full-time employees into part-time employees.
Maybe we should send more money and military equipment to Egypt, our very close friend and ally in the Middle East?
While we’re at it, we can plan a few more joint police/MILITARY exercises in Los Angeles, Miami and Houston. That should aid our economy, too.
Oh, Barack, you and the other dimocrats really have things looking good now!
Erwin's cat
January 30th, 2013
2:20 pm
George Bush still out-spent Barack Obama by more than 2 to 1
there’s still time…and your numbers are disingenuous
bookman parrot
January 30th, 2013
2:20 pm
To MM, i love how ignorant you are to believe as you do
Itchy Finger
January 30th, 2013
2:20 pm
mm:
Last I checked dems had a monopoly on minority voters… Your iq idea would be great… When can we start….
Redcoat
January 30th, 2013
2:23 pm
And the redefining continues……Down is up……bad is good……prosperity is more debt……and repeat
Morality?
January 30th, 2013
2:23 pm
Like I have been saying on here for some time – we are going to have ONE more so called “recovery” before the Titanic meets the ice burg. Hope you brain dead zombies know how to dog paddle. I am neither Dem nor Repub…… time for FISCAL conservatives to LEAD this country out of this quick sand Congress has us in. Time for a 3rd PARTY loyal to the FISCAL future of the USA to LEAD and time for PARTY LOYALISTS like the current Congress and Obama to be “let go”. TERM LIMITS for CONGRESS and a BALANCED BUDGET Amendment to the CONSTITUTION is the only way out of this QUICK SAND.
Itchy Finger
January 30th, 2013
2:23 pm
Bookman’s Brigade of dimwits sure don’t want to talk about the obama economy…..
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 30th, 2013
2:24 pm
mm
January 30th, 2013
2:11 pm
Yeah, let’s put the GOP back in charge. We can afford to double the debt again and lose another 8 million jobs.
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POOR mm
it must be bad having a low iq
democrats were on TOTAL CONTROL OF CONGRESS from 2007 through 2010
it was during the PELOUSY reign that all the jobs were lost
DEMONCRATS
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 30th, 2013
2:24 pm
SORRY TYPO
democrats not demoncrats
Grasshopper
January 30th, 2013
2:24 pm
“And the redefining continues……Down is up……bad is good……prosperity is more debt……and repeat”
So if I max out my credit cards, I will be more prosperous? What a great country!
Thomas
January 30th, 2013
2:26 pm
Best analysis:
So what does all of this mean? Did the Obama spending binge really happen? Was Nutting right? What it boils down to is your interpretation of the results. There is no denying that Obama has spent more than any other president in U.S. history. That is a fact, but that also holds true for every president since Herbert Hoover.
Uh Huh....Bush Outspent Obama 2 to 1
January 30th, 2013
2:27 pm
@Erwin’s cat
January 30th, 2013
2:15 pm
mm – We should require IQ tests for voters. Anyone with a score under 80 would not be eligible to vote. That should eliminate almost all republicans.
seems the left opposes this…unless in suites you
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The correct word is IT not ‘IN’, ‘SUITS (verb) not ‘SUITES’ (noun).
If YOUR IQ was over 80 you would know that.
YOU must be a Republican.
Redcoat
January 30th, 2013
2:28 pm
Grasshopper ………….It seems to be working in Washington……They’re rolling in the dough!
Joe Hussein Mama
January 30th, 2013
2:30 pm
C. Conservative — “I disagree. Libs don’t have guns”
Says who?
Morality?
January 30th, 2013
2:31 pm
During Obama’s brief (but to long) time in Congress he was voted the 2nd most big spending liberal – just behind the confirmed Socialist Bernie Sanders. Obama and the Dems introduced most of the spending that “W” ok’d – in return the Dems voted to fund Iraq. You scratch my back and I will scratch yours. That’s what YOU call compromise. Pork in exchange for funding a war. Obama & “W” both agreed to bail out the big banks…… a joint effort disaster.
Erwin's cat
January 30th, 2013
2:32 pm
The correct word is IT not ‘IN’, ‘SUITS (verb) not ‘SUITES’ (noun).
If YOUR IQ was over 80 you would know that.
so you got knothing?
HDB
January 30th, 2013
2:33 pm
“True that the GOP spent way too much money when they had control from 2001-2005, however the Dems took control of Congress in 2007 and the economy tanked in 2008 and hasn’t been back pre Wall St collapse since….”
What many people fail to note is that governmental policies do not always affect the economy IMMEDIATELY; there are many cases that that effect lags behind the economy anywhere from six to thirty-six months after implementation!! Note the beginning of the financial crash was during the policies set under total Republican control………..
” How’s Georgia going to replace that revenue? Because nobody in their right mind wants to vacation in GA……By raising sales taxes so everyone has skin in the game. Its only fair… ”
Actually, it isn’t fair!! Sales taxes are the more REGRESSIVE form of taxation. The tax burden would shift from those with a greater disposable income to those with virtually NO disposable income….particularly if sales taxes remain on food and clothing……..
A progressive income tax is fairer in that those with the greater capability will pay more in taxes……
Half Century Dawg
January 30th, 2013
2:33 pm
Morality?
January 30th, 2013
2:23 pm
agreed
rightwingextreme
January 30th, 2013
2:34 pm
Uh Huh….Bush Outspent Obama 2 to 1
January 30th, 2013
2:16 pm
@rightwingextreme
January 30th, 2013
1:45 pm
Can you imagine where this country would be right now if
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
“IF” if were a fifth we’d all be DRUNK.
Despite what Republicans and Conservatives think,
George Bush still out-spent Barack Obama by more than 2 to 1.
The Congressional Budget Office and The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, tells the story of George Bush and his spending ways, and how he turned a surplus into a deficit beginning in 2002, and how that deficit grew each year until he left office in 2009.
•The Bush wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, along with Defense – $1.5 Trillion added to the deficit.
•The Bush Tax Cuts – $1.8 Trillion added to the deficit.
•Non-Defense Discretionary spending under George Bush – $608 Billion added to the deficit.
•Bush Tarp and other Bailouts – $224 Billion added to the deficit.
•Bush’s Medicare Drug Policies – $180 Billion added to the deficit.
•Bush’s Stimulus and other spending – #773 Billion added to the deficit.
I agree! We’re spending too much!! Obama and the dimlibs have just continue to pile on.
indigo
January 30th, 2013
2:34 pm
Itchy finger – 2:23
Sure they do.
But, unlike you, they don’t get their information from Rush and the NRA.
Morality?
January 30th, 2013
2:35 pm
Rosie O’ doughnut’s body guards have guns….. guarding the insane is a full time job.
That Black Guy
January 30th, 2013
2:35 pm
Erwin’s cat
January 30th, 2013
1:42 pm
I know you were trying to crack a joke, but that was a half-step over the line, IMO
sadly, no not a joke, just an observable assumption…not sure why people are taking offense to the comment, they have about a dozen a weekend
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Also, nothing was said to the “poster” who first mentioned “a shooting”.
Ok, to mention 1 shooting but not the other?
Uh Huh....Bush Outspent Obama 2 to 1
January 30th, 2013
2:35 pm
@UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 30th, 2013
2:24 pm
mm
January 30th, 2013
2:11 pm
Yeah, let’s put the GOP back in charge. We can afford to double the debt again and lose another 8 million jobs.
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POOR mm
it must be bad having a low iq
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Low IQ? You would know.
Private sector job creation under President Obama has far exceeded private sector job creation under President Bush.
40 months into his presidential term, there are currently more private sector jobs in the economy than when Obama came into office. At the same point in President Bush’s term, the total number of private sector jobs was still down 1.7 percent from where it began.
The numbers are even starker when measuring each president’s record from the moment job creation returned. Private sector job creation returned in February of 2010, the 13th month of President Obama’s term. Since then, the economy has added 4.3 million private sector jobs, a 4 percent increase.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 30th, 2013
2:36 pm
Well, this is what you get when you put a Muslim Socialist Dictator in the White House. We’re ruint! The only way out of this mess is a big whopping Tax Cut so the Job Creators can create Jobs. Oh, I know what you’re going to say: They ain’t created any jobs. Well, the reason is because the Tax Cuts wasn’t big enough.
Tax Cuts and whacking the spending on Those People, the illegals, and the old codgers that won’t work just because they happen to be 75 years old or so. Well, all I know is, I ain’t seen a greeter at WalMart in the last four times I went there. There’s jobs going begging but those old f–ts won’t take them. We ought to have a law.
That’s my opinion and it’s very true. Have a good p.m. everybody.
rightwingextreme
January 30th, 2013
2:36 pm
CC
January 30th, 2013
2:20 pm
The economy “stumbled”, eh? What a huge surprise!
Let’s not go off half-cocked in an attempt to get this out-of-control federal spending under control. We need to devise some other plan of action!
I know! Let’s give legal status to 11 million (more like 18-20 million) illegal aliens! They can then add even more stress to our overburdened welfare rolls. Think of the economic boom in unpaid hospital and medical bills! We can then do something about increasing the Obamacare rolls since that has been so helpful to our economy by making former full-time employees into part-time employees.
Maybe we should send more money and military equipment to Egypt, our very close friend and ally in the Middle East?
While we’re at it, we can plan a few more joint police/MILITARY exercises in Los Angeles, Miami and Houston. That should aid our economy, too.
Oh, Barack, you and the other dimocrats really have things looking good now!
Now you know why Skeeter and his regime want to confiscate our guns!
Itchy Finger
January 30th, 2013
2:37 pm
Rubberman
Itchy Finger – I suggest pointing the muzzle of your gun at your temple and using your itchy finger to pull the trigger. The President’s economy is actually quite good, and getting better; we’d rather you weren’t around to share in the gains.
Wow you must either be off your meds or have been living in a cave for the last four years.
That Black Guy
January 30th, 2013
2:37 pm
Lynnie Gal
January 30th, 2013
1:42 pm
Now what is the definition of insanity again? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?
_________________________________
I’ve looked in Websters, dictionary .com, wiki and other sources.
I have never seen that as a defination of insanity.
indigo
January 30th, 2013
2:37 pm
rightwingextreme – 1:45
It’s amazing how often you lie here and think no on will notice.
http://www.politicususa.com/half-americans-taxes.html
Thomas
January 30th, 2013
2:38 pm
Blog “fighters” are like dudes that drive Porsches- they are compensating for something.
rightwingextreme
January 30th, 2013
2:39 pm
Uh Huh….Bush Outspent Obama 2 to 1
January 30th, 2013
2:35 pm
@UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 30th, 2013
2:24 pm
mm
January 30th, 2013
2:11 pm
Yeah, let’s put the GOP back in charge. We can afford to double the debt again and lose another 8 million jobs.
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POOR mm
it must be bad having a low iq
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Low IQ? You would know.
Private sector job creation under President Obama has far exceeded private sector job creation under President Bush.
40 months into his presidential term, there are currently more private sector jobs in the economy than when Obama came into office. At the same point in President Bush’s term, the total number of private sector jobs was still down 1.7 percent from where it began.
The numbers are even starker when measuring each president’s record from the moment job creation returned. Private sector job creation returned in February of 2010, the 13th month of President Obama’s term. Since then, the economy has added 4.3 million private sector jobs, a 4 percent
Man, i want you to keep stats at a ballgame. Last team to score points wins even if they’re behind!
Whatever
January 30th, 2013
2:39 pm
We are borrowing money for nothing today. Let’s wait until interest rates go up then we’ll see.
The piper will have to be paid sometime.
That Black Guy
January 30th, 2013
2:40 pm
Mick
January 30th, 2013
1:43 pm
Still no one one the right has told me how they are going to balance the budget besides going after social security and medicare – both non-starters…
____________________________________
Who have you asked?
Can you post your letters and emails to the politicians here?
Erwin's cat
January 30th, 2013
2:40 pm
Private sector job creation under President Obama has far exceeded private sector job creation under President Bush.
why do you guys (not all of you) continue to compare Obama to what has been determined “the worst president ever” W…raise the bar, challenge yourself and your president
Uh Huh....Bush Outspent Obama 2 to 1
January 30th, 2013
2:40 pm
@rightwingextreme
January 30th, 2013
2:34 pm
I agree! We’re spending too much!! Obama and the dimlibs have just continue to pile on.
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YOU and the CONS have just continued to pile on Obama like
he STARTED this mess.
Uh HUH….blame the BLACK MAN. Its his fault?
Where were YOU when Bush went on a SPENDING SPREE?
UNDER A ROCK?
Whatever
January 30th, 2013
2:41 pm
stands,
“I see the kids have come home early on account of the storm. Have fun baby-sittin’ them, Jay.”
Parents don’t babysit their own children. Let’s give dad’s their proper due!
Erwin's cat
January 30th, 2013
2:41 pm
Uh HUH….blame the BLACK MAN. Its his fault?
race card alert
Morality?
January 30th, 2013
2:42 pm
Dsiney World aka Hollyweird North aka D.C. – Time for TERM LIMITS….. these airheads you voted for never read ECONOMICS 101. We need LEADERS in D.C. that know how to prioritize issues of importance – FISCAL CLIFF should be priority #1. Instead they are worried about putting in to hand to hand combat…….. airheads.
Christian Conservative
January 30th, 2013
2:43 pm
Its funny how libs just won’t admit how wrong they are. When these pesky little numbers come out showing how pathetic and iept this President has been they simply ignore it or deflect it.
Morality?
January 30th, 2013
2:43 pm
Apologize – should have read “women in hand to hand combat”….
Uh Huh....Bush Outspent Obama 2 to 1
January 30th, 2013
2:43 pm
@Erwin’s cat
January 30th, 2013
2:40 pm
Private sector job creation under President Obama has far exceeded private sector job creation under President Bush.
why do you guys (not all of you) continue to compare Obama to what has been determined “the worst president ever” W…raise the bar, challenge yourself and your president
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WHY do “you” CONS continue to praise GeeDub U when he was a SIMPLE
MINDED low IQ
the cat
January 30th, 2013
2:44 pm
ERwin-please do tell us who is comparing President Obama to Bush.
Erwin's cat
January 30th, 2013
2:45 pm
Instead they are worried about putting women in to hand to hand combat…
It’s a cost savings…we can pay them less!
Joe Hussein Mama
January 30th, 2013
2:45 pm
TBG — “Also, nothing was said to the “poster” who first mentioned “a shooting”.
The first poster wasn’t cracking a joke. He simply mentioned that it had happened.
“Ok, to mention 1 shooting but not the other?”
We are all free to say whatever we like here, within the bounds Jay puts on us. Sometimes people are going to criticize what others say. Shrug.
I don’t know what else you’re looking for here. Cat said something and I commented in response. What of it?
No Artificial Flavor
January 30th, 2013
2:45 pm
Obviously we have allowed our economy to become too dependent on federal spending. It is dangerous to have such a centrally controlled, quasi-command economy. We’ve swung that pendulum a little too far.
Morality?
January 30th, 2013
2:46 pm
It’s not just Obama – I mean after all he gets his advice from N a n n y Pelosi and Hairy Weed. You brain deads are more concerned with the social life of our 1st Reality Show President” . what’s the Housewife of D.C. wearing?
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 30th, 2013
2:46 pm
POOR Uh Huh….Bush Outspent Obama 2 to 1
cant take it that the DEMOCRATS presided over the worst 4 year period of DEBT ACCUMULATION when they WERE IN CONTROL OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE from 2007 through 2010……….
shame
blame
the same
Erwin's cat
January 30th, 2013
2:47 pm
the cat – you can’t find the post I quoted? Be a better feline huh!
Uh Huh....Bush Outspent Obama 2 to 1
January 30th, 2013
2:47 pm
Ooops I did not finish my comment.
@Erwin’s cat
January 30th, 2013
2:40 pm
Private sector job creation under President Obama has far exceeded private sector job creation under President Bush.
why do you guys (not all of you) continue to compare Obama to what has been determined “the worst president ever” W…raise the bar, challenge yourself and your president
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WHY do “you” CONS continue to praise GeeDub U when he was a SIMPLE
MINDED low IQ president.
All he had going for him was his father and he LOOKED like
his fans/voters.
rightwingextreme
January 30th, 2013
2:49 pm
Uh Huh….Bush Outspent Obama 2 to 1
January 30th, 2013
2:40 pm
@rightwingextreme
January 30th, 2013
2:34 pm
I agree! We’re spending too much!! Obama and the dimlibs have just continue to pile on.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
YOU and the CONS have just continued to pile on Obama like
he STARTED this mess.
Uh HUH….blame the BLACK MAN. Its his fault?
Where were YOU when Bush went on a SPENDING SPREE?
UNDER A ROCK?
I was calling our elected officials and telling them to stop the spending.
BTW….this massive spending was made possible by LBJ when he started the failed Great Society and raiding SS Trust Fund to partially pay for it.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 30th, 2013
2:49 pm
E. Cat — “why do you guys (not all of you) continue to compare Obama to what has been determined “the worst president ever” W…raise the bar, challenge yourself and your president”
Why do Republicans steadfastly refuse to repudiate Bush’s policies and those who advanced them? Romney made it clear that he’d *restore* some Bush-era policies and even hired on several of Bush’s former advisors to be on his campaign team. It’s reasonable to presume that some of them might even have been tapped to serve in a potential Romney administration.
So if Republicans agree that Bush sucked so hard, let’s see y’all kick him, his people and his policies to the curb. And don’t look back in the mirror as we’re driving off, either.
the cat
January 30th, 2013
2:49 pm
Erwin’s cat-you stopped being humorous a while back when you were getting poked with a stick. Just not that into you sweetie, not worth my time.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 30th, 2013
2:50 pm
highest deficit when REPUBLICANS controlled both the house and senate
$574,264
defecits when DEMOCRATS controlled both the house and the senate
$1,017,071
$1,885,104
$1,651,794
$1,228,717
have you no shame
Jay
January 30th, 2013
2:50 pm
Rubberman, that comment urging suicide by gun is over the line and has been taken down.
Erwin's cat
January 30th, 2013
2:51 pm
JHMThe first poster wasn’t cracking a joke. He simply mentioned that it had happened.
neither was the second poster. He simply suggested that there were likely several in Chicago.
Again, I don’t know what’s offensive about what I posted. It was simply a reference to gun violence in Chicago…nothing else
rightwingextreme
January 30th, 2013
2:51 pm
Uh Huh….Bush Outspent Obama 2 to 1
January 30th, 2013
2:47 pm
Ooops I did not finish my comment.
@Erwin’s cat
January 30th, 2013
2:40 pm
WHY do “you” CONS continue to praise GeeDub U when he was a SIMPLE
MINDED low IQ president.
Well, at least we knew what his grades were…..way more than we can say about Skeeter! bahahahahahahahah!
Regnad Kcin
January 30th, 2013
2:51 pm
“why do you guys (not all of you) continue to compare Obama to what has been determined “the worst president ever” W’
I believe it is reasonable to compare a president to his predecessor, as conditions are likely to be most similar. Which president do YOU feel it would be most appropriate for us compare him to? Milllard Fillmore?
And why do conservatives want to make G-Dub a non-person? You must have liked him when you voted for him…
Uh Huh....Bush Outspent Obama 2 to 1
January 30th, 2013
2:51 pm
@UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 30th, 2013
2:46 pm
POOR Uh Huh….Bush Outspent Obama 2 to 1
cant take it that the DEMOCRATS presided over the worst 4 year period of DEBT ACCUMULATION when they WERE IN CONTROL OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE from 2007 through 2010……….
shame
blame
the same
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Your “MIND” is a “TERRIBLE” thing to waste.
The lame always blame the SANE.
Rafe Hollister
January 30th, 2013
2:52 pm
More is the answer, spend more, tax more, print more, regulate more, redistribute more, talk more, promise more, blame more, and campaign more. Worked so far, right? Well, maybe we didn’t do it the right way before, so lets make another attempt.
Remember, we ain’t going back! Barry Obama
That Black Guy
January 30th, 2013
2:52 pm
mm
January 30th, 2013
2:14 pm
“When Georgia’s legislature passes a bill that eliminates the state income tax I could only imagine Jay and his fellow libs losing their lunch…”
The only reason Florida was able to eliminate the state income tax is because of the revenue taken in rom tourists. How’s Georgia going to replace that revenue? Because nobody in their right mind wants to vacation in GA.
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I take it you’ve not been to Tybee Island, St Simons, Jekyll Island, N. GA mountains in the fall or spring.
Morality?
January 30th, 2013
2:53 pm
Jobs are created in the private sector but gub’ment has gotten so big it can create a negative environment for any growth. It is Obama and Congress’s job to create a positive environment for job growth. On that I will give them a D+. It is not the gub’ment’s job to create jobs. To Obama a gub’ment created job is one more on unemployment moved to disability. Voila another Obama created job!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 30th, 2013
2:53 pm
Jay:
This is hard to believe with all of the new gun sales …………. oh, well.
By the way:
Georgia Sherrif’s Association Statement on Gun Control (released 1/30/13)
““The sheriffs took an oath to support the Constitution and will stand by the 2nd Amendment. The sheriffs will aggressively oppose federal or state legislation which infringes upon law abiding citizens’ right to bear arms.
The sheriffs further agree to support any legislation that would effectively penalize criminals who use firearms in the commission of crimes.”
The vote was unanimous.
Interesting that my viewpoint on the subject is right in line with theirs:
I support ANY legislation or regulation that will do TWO things:
1) Actually work.
2) Not violate the Constitution
Erwin's cat
January 30th, 2013
2:54 pm
Why do Republicans steadfastly refuse to repudiate Bush’s policies and those who advanced them?
I try..was never a fan of his especially in his second term
Christian Conservative
January 30th, 2013
2:54 pm
Erwin’s cat:
Private sector job creation under President Obama has far exceeded private sector job creation under President Bush.
why do you guys (not all of you) continue to compare Obama to what has been determined “the worst president ever” W…raise the bar, challenge yourself and your president
The cooked book numbers would have the dim minded believe that. If the workforce Participation rate were the same Obama would have lost millions of jobs…..
Joe Hussein Mama
January 30th, 2013
2:57 pm
E. Cat — “neither was the second poster. He simply suggested that there were likely several in Chicago.”
Why? What were you getting at?
the cat
January 30th, 2013
2:57 pm
Don’t forget that tourist mecca-Go Fish!!!
Christian Conservative
January 30th, 2013
2:57 pm
Uh Huh….Bush Outspent Obama 2 to 1:
obama is a simple minded low iq President… And?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 30th, 2013
2:58 pm
Christian Conservative:
“The cooked book numbers would have the dim minded believe that. If the workforce Participation rate were the same Obama would have lost millions of jobs…..”
Translation:
“Low information voters”
Erwin's cat
January 30th, 2013
2:58 pm
R Kcin – I believe it is reasonable to compare a president to his predecessor, as conditions are likely to be most similar. Which president do YOU feel it would be most appropriate for us compare him to? Milllard Fillmore?
Actually none…I don’t compare RG3 to other QB’s either…we can all stand on our own merits.
It’s just you see it from both sides with “he (insert Bush or Obama) did it too”
straitroad
January 30th, 2013
3:00 pm
This is to be expected. We’ll have a stagnant economy as long as we continue these policies.
Itchy Finger
January 30th, 2013
3:00 pm
Jay:
Rubberman, that comment urging suicide by gun is over the line and has been taken down.
Thanks Jay. I was certainly offended by that comment from that foaming at the mouth liberal….
Erwin's cat
January 30th, 2013
3:00 pm
Why? What were you getting at?
actually nothing…it was as relevant or as irrelevant as “another shooting in Arizona” which is what getalife posted
Morality?
January 30th, 2013
3:01 pm
My shares in weapon’s manufacturers portfolio is mixed what with Congress wanting to cut the military by 25% and people in gun stores getting their “protection”. If you are waiting for the gub’ment to protect you from a home invasion …… this is 911 hello hello hello?
Class of '98
January 30th, 2013
3:01 pm
Stands for decibels wrote, “you can’t cut your way to prosperity”.
Hmmm… I can only assume he or she immediately spends every penny of his paycheck when he gets paid. Saving money (or not spending it, if you prefer) , is only for “morons”.
Ugh. The sheer ignorance out some people is mind-numbing.
Nduka
January 30th, 2013
3:01 pm
Well thanks Jay for one more thing to stress about. First it was the Rapture, then the Mayan calendar thing, the fiscal cliff, the Sequester, Barbara Walters’ chicken pox, now this. The hits just keep on comin.
Christian Conservative
January 30th, 2013
3:02 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801:
“The cooked book numbers would have the dim minded believe that. If the workforce Participation rate were the same Obama would have lost millions of jobs…..”
Translation:
“Low information voters”
Even better Translation:
“Democrats”