Georgia’s leaders continue to duck tough decisions
By the end of his second term, Gov. Sonny Perdue understood that transportation in Georgia was badly underfunded and had been underfunded for years, harming the quality of life of Georgia citizens and damaging its economy.
Legislative leaders, including chairmen of the House and Senate transportation committees, shared that conviction. Yet when it came time to correct the problem, they balked. The best they could manage — and it took years of halting work to accomplish even that much — was to pass a convoluted, complex approach that tried to dump the state’s responsibility for funding transportation onto local voters and local officials.
In the end, the TSPLOST work-around didn’t work and the funding shortage continues. But Perdue’s successor, Nathan Deal, and his fellow state leaders still do not dare to do what they know is necessary. They have no “Plan B.” They do not lead, they follow, and they do so timidly.
And it’s not just transportation. Consider Medicaid and the state’s so-called “bed tax” charged to hospital patients. Again, Georgia leaders from Deal on down understand the necessity of renewing the tax, which expires this year. Without the revenue raised through the tax, Georgia would lose $400 million in federal Medicaid funding, forcing drastic cutbacks in payments to Medicaid service providers and probably forcing the closure of rural hospitals.
Yet they can’t bring themselves to do what they know is necessary. Not directly, anyway. Instead, they have engineered another work-around, creating legislation that shunts responsibility for the bed tax — renamed a fee — onto state bureaucrats, who have been given the “authority” to levy the fee themselves. That way, no politician has his or her fingerprints on a tax renewal.
But how long can this charade be sustained?
The same duty-dodging deception may be employed to produce the public contribution toward financing a new, retractable-roof stadium for the Atlanta Falcons. Personally, I don’t think that in times such as these, scarce tax resources ought to be used to subsidize a highly profitable business. But powerful leaders in this state have decided otherwise. The governor wants it. Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed wants it. The state’s business community wants it.
But again, state leaders are plotting ways to avoid a legislative vote, this time by shifting the responsibility onto those “tax-happy liberals” at the city of Atlanta.
Earlier this week, in joint House and Senate budget hearings, Deal bragged that “We have reduced per capita spending of state dollars for our citizens. Using 2012 dollars, we are spending money at a rate of 17 percent less than we did a decade ago. And we now have 9,000 fewer state employees than we did five years ago.”
Great. But we also have a badly inadequate transportation system, a higher ed system that is taking yet another major cut to its budget, public school systems that can’t stay open the minimum 180 days a year and a bureaucracy no longer able to perform basic government functions in a timely manner. We are allowing the work of a generation to come unraveled.
But at least we still have a Legislature that can say it didn’t vote for a tax increase, if only in the same, technical sense in which Bill Clinton could say that he “never had sex with that woman.”
– Jay Bookman
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N-GA
January 28th, 2013
7:49 am
Kinda like a hit man telling Saint Peter that he never killed anyone who didn’t deserve it…..
ByteMe - Got ilk?
January 28th, 2013
7:56 am
It’s all very sad. And not a bit different for the past 200+ years.
If the South secedes, that’ll really shift the bell curve for the rest of the country.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 28th, 2013
7:59 am
When you sign pledges that go against your oath of office, this is the result. Georgia is so red it can’t do what is needed. maybe after it implodes, the rest of the country will take note and change things…maybe.
Mick
January 28th, 2013
8:00 am
Monday morning blues, when”s the next golden age in my lifetime?
Granny Godzilla
January 28th, 2013
8:09 am
Just another episode in why folks roll their eyes when you tell them you live in Georgia…..
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 28th, 2013
8:10 am
Well, I still ain’t seeing any work on the GA 400 exit ramp for Simpsons Trailer Park so don’t expect me to support a tax. And the schools, all people need is to read a little and do a little adding. Fire some teachers and we’ll be OK.
That’s my opinion and it’s very true. Have a good Monday everybody.
Thomas Heywards Jr
January 28th, 2013
8:10 am
Attention New Jersians, Californians,Ohions, and other assorted Amero-do-gooder high tax statist progs.
.
It IS terrible here.
Bridges are crumbling. Pot holes are eating cars.And the weather is terrible, what with global warming and such.
.
It’s best that ya’ll stay where you are.
Or maybe go to Detroit.
Gale
January 28th, 2013
8:10 am
I don’t know, Corbin, California has practically imploded and the country doesn’t take it as an object lesson. They just point and laugh.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
8:12 am
soiling their diapers
liberals claiming georgia collapsing
yet all those diaper wearing liberals keep moving to atlanta to find work
hhhmmmmmm…………….. sounds contradictary
yet those diaper wearers wont look at the liberal states of california, new jersey, new york, illinois………….. in fact they admire those states
hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm……………… sounds delusional
soames
January 28th, 2013
8:12 am
California is belly up with the same problems (not enough revenue) and the rest of the country still hasn’t taken note….ahh but the bell at the NYSE is signalling a real turnaround.
Are you going to demand some accountability from your ‘Blue’ friends Jay?
saywhat?
January 28th, 2013
8:12 am
Just heard on NPR this morning that venture capital spending in Georgia is down 17% (not sure over what time period). Could the lack of leadership willing to do what needs doing (or even capable of identifying what needs doing) be part of the reason?
saywhat?
January 28th, 2013
8:15 am
Sorry Samantha, but the only diaper wearer I know of is David Vitter, NOT a liberal, and not moved to Atlanta. Try again.
Gale
January 28th, 2013
8:18 am
Even if we had the funding, infrastructure projects have about a ten year span. It would provide jobs, improve economy, increase tax revenue, and provide a better base for attracting business. I think the “leaders” are just not doing a good job of selling this.
Granny Godzilla
January 28th, 2013
8:18 am
California belly up?
Really?
Oh please keep up…..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/california-budget-surplus-2013_n_2450349.html
Citizen of the World
January 28th, 2013
8:21 am
These Republican “leaders” are wimps, cowering in the face of the anti-tax, small-government, one-winged (that would be the right wing) monster they have created. Now they can’t get the important things done.
Cherokee
January 28th, 2013
8:22 am
And of course in the real world – that is, not the one described by Fox News – California has balanced its budget and is growing, thanks to Democratic super majorities in their government.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
8:22 am
“Are you going to demand some accountability from your ‘Blue’ friends Jay?”
Yes, Jay, are you???? Oh wait, looks like California is cleaning up the mess leftover from the red Arnie.
An observer
January 28th, 2013
8:22 am
So are you saying that legislators should raise taxes to subsidize the Falcons stadium? I do not think they should.
Plain Truth
January 28th, 2013
8:24 am
Delta is ready when you are! There are flights daily to th blue states! These who are whining about Georgia give the Federal government a pass on everything!
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
8:25 am
soiling their diapers
and still not getting the big picture
California’s debt still a heavy cloud over state’s future
Gov. Jerry Brown’s new budget presented a plan to pay back nearly $28 billion owed, but various sources estimate the state’s debt at hundreds of billions.
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/13/local/la-me-state-debt-20130114
EVEN THE LA TIMES UNDERSTANDS THE SITUATION……………
Gale
January 28th, 2013
8:26 am
Atlanta does not need a new stadium. Atlanta need infrastructure projects.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
8:26 am
I see Georgia Republicans think there is enough revenue to pump another $50 million a year into the secretive private school tax credit scam.
Skip
January 28th, 2013
8:26 am
Gale hasn’t paid much attention to what’s happening in Cal lately.
Granny Godzilla
January 28th, 2013
8:28 am
UNCLE SAMANTHA
SO …it’s a cloud….a puffy gray cloud…
how scarey is that?
who’s drawers need changing?
alex
January 28th, 2013
8:29 am
When I moved back here 4 years ago a business man told me that atlanta had 3 main problems, the most important was the poor work ethic of the population,we get our legislature from this same pool…
State and federal legislatures not doing whats important.
NO stadium unless Blank pays for it….
Granny is correct, to a point, the higher yaxes have helped Californias finances…See the “economist”-a couple of weeks ago, long term implications remain to be determined….
F. Sinkwich
January 28th, 2013
8:31 am
“But we also have a badly inadequate transportation system, a higher ed system that is taking yet another major cut to its budget, public school systems that can’t stay open the minimum 180 days a year and a bureaucracy no longer able to perform basic government functions in a timely manner.”
We just need more spending and higher taxes, don’t we, Jay? It’s the lib ilk answer to all that ails us, real or perceived.
I know, you know, the whole world knows that if indeed Deal raised spending and taxes, it wouldn’t be enough to satisfy the ilks. Their appetitite for bigger government is insatiable.
Thomas Heywards Jr
January 28th, 2013
8:34 am
Municipal tax rates in Detroit are 2.5 times the national average,…..AND they have bullet trains AND light rail.
Ditto California.
.
Clearly, Georgia needs higher taxes and a bullet train.
Deal needs to ask the advice of Nobel prize-winning Economist Paul Krugman.
guy
January 28th, 2013
8:35 am
Yes, they put off making tough decisions just like the jackasses in Washington. Both only want to kick the can a little more and pretend it will all go away. It will go away,you can be sure of that!
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
8:35 am
Atlanta need infrastructure projects.
name the ALL DEMOCRATICALLY RUN part of GEORGIA that has been so MIS-MANAGED that is is crumbling?
ATLANTA, FULTON (except NORTH FULTON), DEKALB
when democrats control
it falls in a hole
Gale
January 28th, 2013
8:36 am
True enough. My California news comes from family planning to move from CA because of the economy there.
curious
January 28th, 2013
8:37 am
Rather than smaller or bigger government, it would be nice to have some “Good Government” for a change.
Granny Godzilla
January 28th, 2013
8:37 am
got ilk? Ilks Lodge? ilk and cookies? satin and ilk? ilk chocolate? ilk shake? malted ilk?
ilk
RIP 2008 – 2012
vinny
January 28th, 2013
8:40 am
“The finance department estimates there is still a $28 billion “Wall of Debt” built up over years of internal borrowing, as well as more than $100 billion in unfunded liabilities in state retirement health and pension systems”
Nice try, granny. California has so much debt and unfunded liabilities that it will never dig out.
Granny Godzilla
January 28th, 2013
8:42 am
vinny
see the trees
see the forest
the contested phrase was…..belly up.
Doggone/GA
January 28th, 2013
8:42 am
“that it will never dig out.”
Nothing lasts forever
kayaker 71
January 28th, 2013
8:43 am
Granny,
The Huff Post article says that Governor Moonbeam “has a plan” for reducing the debt over the next four years…… Is that anything like Bozo’s pledge to “cut the debt in half” during his first term? This is nothing but liberal rhetoric. California is an immigrant disaster, poorly led and in debt so far in the hole, they may never see the sun again. But that’s OK, I suppose. Governor Moonbeam has a plan.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 28th, 2013
8:45 am
GDOT has the money to run snow plows all around Macon this weekend, so it appears they have plenty of money.
St Simons - aboriginal Bootakook 2014
January 28th, 2013
8:47 am
bu..bu..bu…Timmy does it toooo! – thought i’d get that one outta the way.
AM raydio codeword today – some variant of diaper/bedwetting.
Freudian, to be SURE…
Ronald Reagan Parkway
January 28th, 2013
8:50 am
The sad part about this scenario is that there is a possibility that Nathan Deal will be re-elected. Wake up Georgia!
Granny Godzilla
January 28th, 2013
8:51 am
kayaker 71
the contested phrase again was….belly up
it ain’t, deal with it
F. Sinkwich
January 28th, 2013
8:51 am
Perhaps Georgia should study the success of blue states as a roadmap to fiscal nirvana. Oh wait:
“S&P has downgraded Illinois’ credit rating down…which makes it the worst rated state in the United States.”
O’bozo learned a lot from them.
Mick
January 28th, 2013
8:51 am
sink
Ever notice that we have been cutting taxes for the past 18 years and our country is falling apart at the seems and no better off? People like you expect champagne fixes on a beer budget – you get what you pay for…
Bill Orvis White
January 28th, 2013
8:52 am
The honorable Governor Purdue is a fine man. I met him on several occasions at numerous bible study retreats. I apply those same words for Mr. Deal, but I have yet to have the honor to meet this amazing man who is dedicated to low/no taxe$ and bringing budgets into common sense territory. Here’s the thing that’s wrongheaded about Liberal Jay’s blog post (looks like the same piece of trash in the print edition): Transportation and health care are not rights guaranteed to the public under the U.S. Constitution and state charters. We need to get back to basics whereby the private sector takes control of these functions, pure and simple.
If I saw Mr. Purdue again, I would urge him to run for Taxby Shameless’ old United States Senate seat because the U.S. Senate NEEDS more men like Mr. Purdue who lead a Christ-centered existence. I originally loved U.S. Senator Chambliss, but he abandoned his conservative roots by being seen with Socialist-Democrat party members. This turncoat needs to go back to his front porch, sip the devil’s drink and think about all the treasonous things he committed himself to by working with the enemy. Taxby needs to be called up in a special hearing.
Amen,
Bill
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
8:56 am
the govenors named brown
and the marriages gay
the debt has accumulated
spent the fund for a rainy day
i’d be safe and warm
if i taxed high pay
california dreaming
residents wont stay
hamiltonAZ
January 28th, 2013
8:57 am
“And not a bit different for the past 200+ years…”
Oh, that is inaccurate. As a younger person, I took pride in my state as I drove around the country. We always had the bed transportation dept. Better roads, better access. No more.
Jay has scored with this one. The party in power has convinced itself and its followers that government is bad.
Now they sit around and tinker with the weaker branch (indigent defense, new crimes for immigration, new evidence code, new juvenile code, drastic budget cut and new responsibilities); the departments (HR closing group homes, shifting away from child protection; Education, eviscerate and privatize) and give lip service to jobs. In corrections, they got tough on crime, and realize it’s a mistake because prison is not the all round answer. Now they can’t afford the prisons and don’t have the courage to undo the mandatory minimums.
Every year, more crimes go on the books because it’s all they can do. They’ve backed themselves into a corner. When Sen. Chambliss began to speak reasonably about the crazy pledge, they put a target on him.
If they were interested in jobs, they would want good infrastructure but they’re afraid to do what it takes. They would have a strong judiciary, but they’re afraid to do what it takes. They would sustain the dramatic improvements Zell’s HOPE provided higher education, but they’re afraid to do what it takes.
While other states are moving past the recession, compare GA.
Mick
January 28th, 2013
8:58 am
orvis
What country do you live in? You don’t sound like an american to me, just someone who only cares about himself and his religion. You’d be better suited for an island in the pacific somewhere…
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
9:00 am
sonny purdue is a DEMOCRAT
its funny why democrats laugh at him……….. his views are DEMOCRAT
and true conservatives laugh at him…………. and they didn’t know why………..
He switched party affiliation from Democratic to Republican in 1998
and the same for NATHAN DEAL
so when liberals CRY about SONNY and NATHAN……… they are making fun of THEMSELVES
vinny
January 28th, 2013
9:01 am
California doesn’t pay it’s bills. It’s a deadbeat state.
They declare a suplus with $28 billion going unpaid? That’s pretty cool. If I tried that, the repo man would come and take everything I own. But since gov’r Moonbeam does it it’s o.k.
Good goin, granny!!
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
9:01 am
“the debt has accumulated
spent the fund for a rainy day”
Good point Uncle Sam, typical Republican behavior isn’t it? Create a mess then whine when a Democrat doesn’t clean it up in 3 days! I guess Republicans are pretending Arnie never existed, just like they do with Bush. Disgusting.
weetamoe
January 28th, 2013
9:01 am
The word *smackdown* is a frequently used word that floats serenely in the community soup of expressions, easy to scoop out and use when appropriate and timely. Conventional wisdom that it is biologically and anatomically impossible for men to suffer hysteria has become subject to question in some recent and relatively rare instances.
Granny Godzilla
January 28th, 2013
9:02 am
vinny
see trees
see forest
can’t eh?
Bob
January 28th, 2013
9:04 am
Mick, show us where Illinois or California has cut taxes. They keep raising them and keep getting more in debt. During the recent teachers unions strike in Chicago we were told that some schools have no A/C and frequently run out of soap and toilet paper. Maybe that is why Chicago has so many murders. I wonder which states have better bond ratings, progressives like CA and IL or GA ?
vinny
January 28th, 2013
9:04 am
See the debt granny. Can’t see it? – Then you aren’t dealing in reality. Typical bedwetting liberal.
Question Man
January 28th, 2013
9:05 am
About the Falcons’ stadium, why does Georgia’s billionaire Arthur Blank try to TAKE hundreds of millions from taxpayers, while billionaires such as New York’s Michael Bloomberg DONATE hundreds of millions to do good? http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/27/nyregion/at-1-1-billion-bloomberg-is-top-university-donor-in-us.html?ref=nyregion
Jay
January 28th, 2013
9:05 am
So Samantha, by your analysis, Georgia Republican voters have nominated liberals as governor in each of the last three statewide GOP primaries?
Lame. Exceedlingly lame.
St Simons- island off coast of New Somalia
January 28th, 2013
9:06 am
well, I saw on that Chip Rogers GPB documentary where Georgia was
upgradin’ with a new dam & string music education. I don’t how they
got Ned Beatty & Burt Reynolds to do the narratin’ tho. That musta
cost a fortune.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 28th, 2013
9:07 am
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
9:00 am
WOW! That rant really offers good solutions…
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
9:08 am
oohhhh danny boy!!!!!!!!!!
you are DELUSIONAL
california is a democratic state run by dems
they can run but they can’t hide……………….
The legislature has been Democrats most of the time. Except for the period from 1995 to 1996, the Assembly has been in Democratic hands since the 1970 election.
poor danny boy.. typical liberal probably complains about the crumbling infrastructure of Metro Atlanta that is in only the DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED areas (MID-SOUTH FULTON, DEKALB AND CITY OF ATLANTA)
OHHH DANNY BOY
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
9:10 am
JAY
I DIDNT SAY LIBERAL…….. I SAID DEMOCRAT!!!!!!!!!!
don’t sandusky my words
and YES………… the DUMB CONSERVATIVES and REPUBLICANS nominated and elected DEMOCRATS
funny
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
9:10 am
“See the debt granny. Can’t see it? – Then you aren’t dealing in reality.”
Arnie sure didn’t see the debt. W sure didn’t see the debt. Of course Republicans now have special glasses that see the debt. They also have mirrors that show Arnie and W smaller than they actually are, in fact they disappear!
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
9:12 am
corbin
heres the only solution
stop electing democrats and republicans (who are rich or laywers or sometimes both)
start electing middle class workers who will not RIG THEY SYSTEM for rich-lawyers
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 28th, 2013
9:12 am
Uh, about California, y’all…
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/10/us-usa-california-budget-idUSBRE9090PV20130110
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
9:12 am
Jay — “Earlier this week, in joint House and Senate budget hearings, Deal bragged that “We have reduced per capita spending of state dollars for our citizens. Using 2012 dollars, we are spending money at a rate of 17 percent less than we did a decade ago. And we now have 9,000 fewer state employees than we did five years ago.”
As my grandpappy used to say, “figgers lie and liars figger.”
MiltonMan
January 28th, 2013
9:13 am
Georgia is a terrible place to live huh?:
California has the highest poverty rate (on top of highest state tax structure):
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/california-poverty_n_2132920.html
Illinois has the worst state credit rating:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/26/illinois-credit-rating-lo_0_n_2557649.html?utm_hp_ref=chicago
New Jersey and Democratic senator being investigated for sleeping with underage prostitutes (Of course, Jay would never, ever discuss this):
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/25/emails-show-fbi-investigating-sen-bob-menendez-for-sleeping-with-underage-dominican-prostitutes/
etc.
etc.
So feel free to move away to other states that are so much wonderful than Georgia
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 28th, 2013
9:14 am
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
9:12 am
Would love to see it, but I fear that is a pipe dream. Special interests will have to be outlawed first.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
9:14 am
poor corbin
California’s debt still a heavy cloud over state’s future
Gov. Jerry Brown’s new budget presented a plan to pay back nearly $28 billion owed, but various sources estimate the state’s debt at hundreds of billions.
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/13/local/la-me-state-debt-20130114
you should stop reading FOXS NEWS and start listening to a REAL media company like the LA TIMES
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
9:15 am
“california is a democratic state run by dems”
Yes it is now, because Republicans totally screwed up, just like they did on a national level. Jerry Brown is cleaning up a Republican’s mess. Where have we heard that before????
In fact California voters also recently voted to change their state senate so the minority party didn’t have super powers just so the incompetent Republicans couldn’t do any more harm.
straitroad
January 28th, 2013
9:16 am
Jay,
Reducing federal welfare would help to increase state revenue. Paying folks to sit at home is a major part of the problem.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
9:16 am
corbin
WE ARE THE SPECIAL INTEREST
this poor me i am only one person against all those big powerful forces has got to end
they want you to stay down and think there is NO WAY
but we out number all those special interest
they are just smart enough to have us squabble over these silly issues to distract us from the fact we have the power
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
9:17 am
hey canny boy
EDUCATE ME
when did the REPUBLICANS controll CA?
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 28th, 2013
9:17 am
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
9:14 am
FOX NEWS!!?? Ha! Fox News doesn’t even acknowledge California exists. Fox news is for you, not me.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
9:18 am
The best they could manage — and it took years of halting work to accomplish even that much — was to pass a convoluted, complex approach that tried to dump the state’s responsibility for funding transportation onto local voters and local officials.
Sort of the way Prime Minister Cameron is doing in the UK over the Euro situation?
What is it with these so-called conservative “leaders”? Are they not able to actually LEAD?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
9:18 am
straitroad — “Jay, Reducing federal welfare would help to increase state revenue. Paying folks to sit at home is a major part of the problem.”
You’re aware that the *states* administer public welfare programs, aren’t you? Including establishing time limits on how long recipients can benefit from most forms of welfare?
Surely you’re not advocating for the big bad Fedrul Gubmint to come in and push the states around, are you?
LIBERAL Progressive and damn proud of it.
January 28th, 2013
9:19 am
Why do people insist on putting their stupidity on display? Help me with this U.Sam, Sinkwich….why do you do that?
Mick
January 28th, 2013
9:20 am
I wonder how that anti-union, low tax state of texas is doing with their 12 billion deficit? Can’t blame dems, unions or high taxes, what then?
F. Sinkwich
January 28th, 2013
9:23 am
Yo, Danny, The Governator is a lib ilk…
While we certainly had deficit issues during Bush, those problems are 4X now. But it’s all good since O’bozo is in charge, huh?
Mick
January 28th, 2013
9:27 am
sink
Yeah, it’s all obama’s fault, the great recession doesn’t factor at all in your world. Who was it again that left the country in that state???
Whatever
January 28th, 2013
9:29 am
Georgia is on this end of the spectrum then you have California and Illinois (great liberal states) that are going bankrupt. Which states are in the clear and doing what they need to do best?
Bottom line, we’ve overspent for years and it’s catching up with us. We don’t have the funds to do everything everyone wants anymore. Some things will have to go. The hard part is figuring out which things.
barking frog
January 28th, 2013
9:30 am
I certainly hope Deal has improved his finances as he hasn’t done much for Georgia.
Jay
January 28th, 2013
9:30 am
“Jay, Reducing federal welfare would help to increase state revenue. Paying folks to sit at home is a major part of the problem.”
Funny, then, that Ga. revenue is still down so much, given that Georgia pays less in “federal welfare” than any other state in the union.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/12/georgia_s_war_against_the_poor_the_southern_state_is_emptying_its_welfare.html
Under straitroad’s thesis, Ga. ought to be rolling in revenue. Georgia is NOT rolling in revenue. Thus, straitroad’s thesis is disproved.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
9:31 am
“Yo, Danny, The Governator is a lib ilk…”
Before Brown California had a Republican Governor 16 out of 20 years. During that time legislation passed by their Senate required a 2/3rds majority, giving both parties the same amount of power because one party never had more than a 2/3rds majority.
Maybe all those Republicans were RHINOs. Reagan too, when he was governor!!
F. Sinkwich
January 28th, 2013
9:32 am
Hey, Mick, check this out:
“The robust tax collections in 2012 have already blown the official estimates out of the water, and 2013 should add to that surplus, said Dale Craymer, an economist and president of the business-backed Texas Taxpayers and Research Association.”
Mick = Prevaricator
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
9:33 am
Ducking decisions? The mother of all “decision duckers” is the Dem led Senate and Obama…… Jay when are you going to talk about the tough decision concerning the Fed debt that Obama has been ducking for FOUR plus years now?
Whatever
January 28th, 2013
9:34 am
Jay (or anyone else),
Which states are keeping their budgets intact and providing all of these services and don’t have future unfunded liabilities (just kicking the can down the road)?
I don’t know of any myself but I’m sure there may be a few out there.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
9:35 am
The Fed gub’ment is “rolling in over spending” and DEBT. That’s what we are rolling in. ……. down hill and fast!
Recon 0311 2533
January 28th, 2013
9:35 am
Talk about states that duck tough decisions. The land of Lincoln that became the land of Democrats isn’t doing very well. Change failure to address state worker pensions to failure to reform entitlements and you see our nation rapidly heading in the same direction.
http://www.myfoxal.com/story/20718216/illinois-state-credit-downgraded-to-worst-in-us
St Simons- island off coast of New Somalia
January 28th, 2013
9:35 am
‘They don’t have a Plan B’
..and Steve Miller ran off with their Plan A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MneA9pgLVw
may the Ga cons’ karma trickle down on them
Donovan
January 28th, 2013
9:35 am
Look at it this way, Mr. Bookman…it could be worse. The Georgia legislature could be run by Democrats. You know the drill. Tax and spend. Did I hear spend more money on education and social programs that never seem to get enough funding, but never seem to improve? Those are gold mines for corrupt little politicians.
Did I read one of your little sharks bragging about how Jerry Moonbeam has whipped the insolvency of California. Well, for one, that mentally ill liberal pulled numbers out of the air because California is still the most upside down state in the nation, has lost more residents than any other state, and has the worse credit rating in the nation. Is it any wonder Phil Nickolson wants to leave California just like Tiger Woods did?
Do I have to remind the Godzilla woman that all those states and cities in this country that are run by Democrats are failed economies? Look at New York, California, Rhode Island, Michigan, and Illinois. Illinois just got downgraded by the S&P, I might add. These bastions of liberalism share the same common denominator; tax and spend, tax and spend, tax and spend, tax and spend, and tax and spend. Is it also any wonder that the governors of those states are whack jobs? Good old Mario looked like a raving lunatic over the gun ban legislation. A 7 round magazine? What’ s next? Banning nail clippers and hedge trimmers? How about the governor of Rhode Island bankrupting his state over the funding of a video game business by former Red Sox pitcher, Curt Shilling?
Nice try, Bookman. Georgia doesn’t need Democrats to run things in its state. I do have an idea for all of you folks who don’t like the way things are done in the Peach State. Go live in New York, California, Rhode Island, Michigan, or Illinois.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
9:36 am
Whatever “Georgia is on this end of the spectrum then you have California and Illinois (great liberal states) that are going bankrupt … Bottom line, we’ve overspent for years and it’s catching up with us”
“The hard part is figuring out which things”
Uh, how about starting with tax holidays for shirking corporations?
kayaker 71
January 28th, 2013
9:38 am
Debt crisis? Detroit…… 20B Chicago…..7.3B. NYC……100B. All run by liberals, some of whom are in jail.
Whatever
January 28th, 2013
9:39 am
Welcome,
Ok, we start there. That’s fine with me. How much does that get us?
Mick
January 28th, 2013
9:40 am
sink
I actually saw that when I googled texas deficit – hats off to them and the economy as a whole gets healthier when their is more employment. Let’s see how new jersey and new york take off with the rebuilding after sandy. No big deal, I was wrong about texas and its deficit this year…god for them and california…
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 28th, 2013
9:40 am
people don’t see the negative side of reducing the number of state jobs. Cracks in the system start appearing and then more people are inadvertently able to game the system to take advantage – the very thing those looking to cut the jobs want to avoid.
Liberal Nightmare
January 28th, 2013
9:41 am
“Why do people insist on putting their stupidity on display? ”
Pot, let me introduce you to Kettle.
Talk about ignorance – a bunch of dim wit libs touting the success of California. Let’s see, highest taxed state, high levels of welfare even among the working, high population of undocumented workers, and mountains of debt. Wow – just delusional. I am sure many manage your budgets in the same way. Oh, and by the way, it is anticipated surplus. Let’s see if it actually occurs.
Mick
January 28th, 2013
9:43 am
donovan
Tiger woods is worth what, about 600 or 700 million? Guess who’s rated the stingiest tipper? That would be tiger, if I had wealth like that, C-NOTES would be flying all over the place..but, thats just me and tiger can be a cheapskate…
Elections Have Consequences
January 28th, 2013
9:44 am
Real message in today’s blog-We need more ‘investments’ to ensure growth. Oy.
stands for decibels
January 28th, 2013
9:44 am
The best they could manage — and it took years of halting work to accomplish even that much — was to pass a convoluted, complex approach that tried to dump the state’s responsibility for funding transportation onto local voters and local officials.
It seems quite cowardly for elected officials to punt when it comes to making tough funding decisions, to say as they did in that instance and others described by Jay, in effect, “We don’t want to take responsibility for generating revenues that we know we need, to pay for stuff we need. We want YOU to choose to do it.”
I don’t think one can govern that way in the best of circumstances, and it’s doubly difficult if the notion of taxes equaling some kind of punishment (rather than civic duty) has become nearly universally accepted.
Jimmy Crack
January 28th, 2013
9:44 am
John Edwards was off about “The 2 Americas”, by ONE. There are 3 Americas…
1) The 5%ers,
2) The 3 Monkeys:
- Gov’t workers (See-No-Evil)
- Unions (Hear-No-Evil)
- Non-working check receivers (Speak-No-Evil)
3) The middle to lower class non-union taxpayers.
As long as #2 all vote together, “Election Day” is nothing but a Tuesday.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
9:46 am
Ducker in Chief is more determined to put women in harm’s way in hand to hand combat than he is on getting the Fed debt under control. Ducker in Chief is more concerned about mandatory big spending programs on college sports for the “challenged” than he is on getting the Fed debt under control. Ducker in Chief is becoming more SOCIALIST social big gub’ment spending than he is in curbing wasteful spending and the FISCAL CLIFF. This political correctness from every special interest group that flooded Obama with lobbyists money and got Obama elected is now getting their PAYOFF. Kickbacks and payoffs are a sign of this corrupt Fed gub’ment. Time for a change. Time for TERM LIMITS for this corrupt do nothing Congress and time for a BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT to the Constitution. to curb this rampant wasteful gub’ment spending of our hard earned tax dollars.
Whatever
January 28th, 2013
9:46 am
Stands,
It’s equally hard to think of taxes as civic duty when there is so much waste and debt.
The other half of your brain.
January 28th, 2013
9:47 am
Moving to Georgia from a northern state I can tell you for a fact that our roads are great, no potholes, no salt and courteous drivers.
But hey it’s Bush’s fault, let’s blame him for another 4 years.
Recon 0311 2533
January 28th, 2013
9:47 am
It looks as though Jay may have picked the wrong Monday morning topic.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 28th, 2013
9:48 am
Wow ! I was wondering when Jay would get back to Georgia transportation !
By the way:
“Georgia’s leaders continue to duck tough decisions”
AMERICA’S “LEADERS” CONTINUE TO DUCK TOUGH DECISIONS
Whatever
January 28th, 2013
9:48 am
I still can’t find a state that is out of debt, hasn’t kicked the can down the road to fund today, and that is providing all these services.
Maybe I’m looking on the wrong web sites…..
JohnnyReb
January 28th, 2013
9:49 am
We need to coin a new term that applies to people who move to Georgia knowing it is and always has been a Conservative state but bitch about it. Damn Yankee just does not seem enough.
The Liberals forget their forefathers came to America to escape the very things they are trying so hard to put in place.
indigo
January 28th, 2013
9:49 am
Georgia politicians are marching in lockstep with the House and Senate, who are also ducking and dodging tough issues.
Couple this behavior with an obsession for short-term gains, at the expense of long-term planning, and Americans get local and national politicians they don’t deserve.
And, no lectures to us voters please.
We can only vote for the people on the ballot.
As for write-in’s, this is useless unless a person is running as a write-in candidate, something that seldom happens.
Erwin's cat
January 28th, 2013
9:50 am
Obama gets a pass because of ‘the great recession”…but Deal irresponsible…got it!
outdoor football in Doraville here we come
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 28th, 2013
9:50 am
Recon:
I still think he has some land along a proposed MARTA route somewhere …………….
moonbat betty
January 28th, 2013
9:51 am
Sounds a lot like DC except compound the problems in DC by a trillion.
indigo
January 28th, 2013
9:51 am
the other half
Bush’s two credit card wars and generous tax breaks for the rich helped to nearly ruin the American economy.
It’s going to take many years to repair all the damage he did.
So, DARN RIGHT, a lot of our economic troubles ARE his fault.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
9:51 am
Talking big and doing nothing. As far as donations go Joe Biden and Bill Clinton are tight wads to an extreme. Hillary even tried to write off Bill’s worn out under wear. Obama is that charitable either. Definition of a LIBERAL – We are going to save the world with YOUR money. HYPOCRITES abound on the far left!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 28th, 2013
9:52 am
Erwin’s cat:
Thank you.
Living With Open Eyes
January 28th, 2013
9:53 am
We should be a LOT more worried about the new immigration legislation the feds are trying to kill us with : http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/28/16730088-senators-reach-deal-on-immigration-changes?lite
Recon 0311 2533
January 28th, 2013
9:54 am
0311/8541,
If so he should be true to his principals and share it with the masses.
td
January 28th, 2013
9:56 am
Jay,
You are comparing apples and oranges with transportation, Medicaid and then the stadium.
The First two are general tax issues (since the TSPLOST did not pass) and a stadium deal would be from a hotel/motel tax that could only be used for such a project and can not be used for anything else.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
9:56 am
“So, DARN RIGHT, a lot of our economic troubles ARE his fault.”
Hell yes they are! Deal can blame Bush too!
I certainly understand though why Republicans want to pretend Bush never existed.
TaxPayer
January 28th, 2013
9:56 am
Republican… Leader!
Now there’s an oxymoron for ya.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
9:56 am
POOR JAY
the liberal mind is a terrible thing to have
he can buy into the fact that the dumb conservatives/republicans nominate tea party crazy’s to run for their party
but he can’t buy into the fact that the conservatives/republicans nominate CONVERTED DEMOCRATS who end up getting ELECTED in the general election because the conservatives/republicans are too DUMB enough to realize they are democrats and they get some INDEPENDENT/DEMOCRAT votes
moonbat betty
January 28th, 2013
9:56 am
Shoot, the state’s roads up north are in great shape! – No traffic either!
Heck, only in the dirty south do they not run a balanced budget.
Whatever
January 28th, 2013
9:57 am
This is a little old but may still be in the ballpark.
http://www.forbes.com/2010/01/20/states-debt-pensions-interactive-map.html
Erwin's cat
January 28th, 2013
9:58 am
Roy Barnes would’ve fixed it by now…yeah right
Whatever
January 28th, 2013
9:59 am
This one is always fun. Let’s keep spending so we can be comfortable and our kids and grandkids can pay for it all!
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
9:59 am
During the Bush years Nathan deal was voting YES for all those tax cuts and huge spending that was going on with them. Deal was also protecting his no-bid government contract! Talk about hypocrites!!!
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
10:01 am
POOR LIBERALS
they cant think
even the liberal media knows georgia has better roads than those unbalanced liberal states
Georgia roads are among America’s best, state officials say
http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2011/feb/07/vance-smith/georgia-roads-are-among-americas-best-state-offici/
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
10:01 am
“Roy Barnes would’ve fixed it by now…yeah right”
Well, I don’t believe Barnes was personally bankrupt. Great leadership, Deal! Kind of like the blind leading the blind.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
10:01 am
Whatever : “Ok, we start there. That’s fine with me. How much does that get us?”
You talk like the problem is fundamentally mathematical. In fact, it’s really not so much numbers crunching as it is political. Who pays for what benefits and who receives them? By some measures, the so-called “red” states who vote Republican receive considerably more back from their tax dollars paid in than do Democrat-voting “blue” states. If you look at what regions of the country receive subsidies in specific areas like agriculture, the result is the same. Rural states and states like Georgia with a lot of defense-related expenditures are typically net beneficiaries of subsidies.
In any case, if you look at projected budget gaps as a function of projected general funds, you get a picture that does not at all necessarily closely follow the “blue-red” distinction. The state of Georgia, for example, lands near the top of the list in its projected shortfalls as a percentage of projected funds. (see http://www.mybudget360.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/state-budget-deficits-1.png)
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
10:02 am
You cannot explain the cause of this FED debt to people with a “drop out” education. This Fed Debt was begun decades ago by the big spending SOCIALISTS social programs primarily promoted by the left leaning Dem Party. Not being economists that failed to properly fund these expansions of gub’ment and ran up the bulk of this huge Fed debt. Both sides have flooded their “supporters” with gub’ment favors aka payoffs and kickbacks. This did not begin with “W” and is still going on today under Obama. At least the state of Georgia has to balance it’s budget by LAW because Georgia has a Balanced Budget Amendment. We need a BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT to the Constitution to get this over spending Fed gub’ment under control.. We need TERM LIMITS for Congress to remove the hogs at the gub’ment trough that don’t have the back bone to make big decisions about this debt.
monty
January 28th, 2013
10:02 am
Politicians refusing to make the hard choices. Who would have thunk it. Problem starts at the top.
Whatever
January 28th, 2013
10:02 am
Look long and hard at the US Debt Clock and tell me that we aren’t in big trouble.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
10:02 am
roy barnes!!!!
don’t get me started on you white racist liberals that nominated ROY while you discriminated against THURBERT BAKER when he would have easily defeated DEAL
Erwin's cat
January 28th, 2013
10:04 am
Well, I don’t believe Barnes was personally bankrupt. Great leadership, Deal! Kind of like the blind leading the blind.
In GA we are usually face with bad decisions not tough decisions at the polls
independent thinker
January 28th, 2013
10:04 am
Upgrade Marta with all that capital improvement money the state says it must not spend and run all those state funded GRTA buses and Gwinnett and Cobb buses to Marta stations at the end of the lines along 285, 85, 75 and 20 and you will actually have a regional transportation system. Of course thos suburban white folks may have to sit next to some of the common folks on Marta trains. But that takes some planning and funding by the circus under the gold dome. Maybe give the crooks 100 free GRTA passes if they pass it to sell or give to constituents and a few transit contracts to friends or family of Deal and Ralston-mission accomplished no need for T-splost.
independent thinker
January 28th, 2013
10:04 am
Upgrade Marta with all that capital improvement money the state says it must not spend and run all those state funded GRTA buses and Gwinnett and Cobb buses to Marta stations at the end of the lines along 285, 85, 75 and 20 and you will actually have a regional transportation system. Of course thos suburban white folks may have to sit next to some of the common folks on Marta trains. But that takes some planning and funding by the circus under the gold dome. Maybe give the crooks 100 free GRTA passes if they pass it to sell or give to constituents and a few transit contracts to friends or family of Deal and Ralston-mission accomplished and no need for T-splost.
independent thinker
January 28th, 2013
10:05 am
Upgrade Marta with all that capital improvement money the state says it must not spend and run all those state funded GRTA buses and Gwinnett and Cobb buses to Marta stations at the end of the lines along 285, 85, 75 and 20 and you will actually have a regional transportation system. Of course those suburban white folks may have to sit next to some of the common folks on Marta trains. But that takes some planning and funding by the circus under the gold dome. Maybe give the crooks 100 free GRTA passes if they pass it to sell or give to constituents and a few transit contracts to friends or family of Deal and Ralston-mission accomplished and no need for T-splost.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
10:05 am
“Georgia roads are among America’s best, state officials say”
Of course they are! Because of rural welfare!
35% of the gas tax revenue and matching federal funds generated in metro-Atlanta is diverted to other parts of the state. Georgia has built a great system of 4 lane highways that are not needed, on metro- Atlanta’s dime.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
10:06 am
KING ROY BARNES was a ruthless big spending tyrant that showered his supporters with cash and punished his enemies with tax laws. Does that sound like anyone currently ruling in D.C.?
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
10:10 am
The state gub’ment needs to be moved a more central location in Georgia – say Macon or Warner Robbins – and out of the control of the corrupt political mafia in Atlanta.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
10:10 am
uncle samantha: ” even the liberal media knows georgia has better roads than those unbalanced liberal states”
But no liberal would make the mistake of thinking that the quality of an area’s roads alone is the decisive factor in determining what area has a superior transportation system.
Say, how does Atlanta’s public transportation system stack up compared with that of a Northeastern city like Philly, New York, or Boston?
Crickets ……….
(That’s what I thought.)
No person in their right mind would even think of claiming Atlanta, or the state of Georgia as a whole, has a transportation system that approaches
Recon 0311 2533
January 28th, 2013
10:11 am
Look long and hard at the US Debt Clock and tell me that we aren’t in big trouble.
Whatever, Obama and the Democrats will only say it’s Bushes fault as they continue to ignore it and concentrate on what they believe is more important like restrictive gun control, women in combat, gay marriage, climate change, free contraception, government controlled healthcare, raising taxes on the rich and placing more people on government welfare programs, amnesty for illegals etc.
clem
January 28th, 2013
10:12 am
ga has gone downhill since repubs took the lead here; only thing going up are wallets of the pols
Erwin's cat
January 28th, 2013
10:13 am
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/economy-finance/state-debt-per-capita-figures.html
looks like GA is in the middle of the pack when it comes to state debt
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
10:13 am
Wishing UGA and Tech good fortune with Feb 6th National Signing Day. Time to stop the raiding of in state talent by “The Gnome” Saban,
Jefferson
January 28th, 2013
10:13 am
Republicans want it all — and for free.
monty
January 28th, 2013
10:13 am
Obama wants to leave some type of legacy as being the great emancipator for Gays and Lesbians, Illegals, and saving the planet. He refuses to make hard choices about the debt crisis. Keeps putting his hands over his ears and singing loudly “la-la-la-la-la.’ Save the planet and destroy the US with his anti-colonial worldview. The great Messiah. And you guys are the elite thinkers of our day? Right.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
10:15 am
Morality? ” At least the state of Georgia has to balance it’s budget by LAW because Georgia has a Balanced Budget Amendment. We need a BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT to the Constitution to get this over spending Fed gub’ment under control”
Wrong. Nothing would be more disastrous, or stupid, than a balanced budget amendment.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
10:15 am
only DUMB LIBERALS would attack GA roads which are among the best in the country thanks to the GREAT DEMOCRAT TOM MORELAND
so dumb they attack the one area that GA DEMOCRATS can claim to have done RIGHT when they were in power
they say ignorance is bliss
then cheer up libs……………… you should be overflowing with bliss
Atlanta Mom
January 28th, 2013
10:17 am
ALEC hasn’t told state republicans what to do about transportation, thus they have no legislation to propose.
Jefferson
January 28th, 2013
10:18 am
Until revenues are raised and defense spending cut, the federal deficit will remain. Fake concerns helps nobody.
Grasshopper
January 28th, 2013
10:18 am
“WOW! That rant really offers good solutions… ”
Since when does anyone come to Bookman’s blog looking for solutions?
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
10:18 am
Occupy – This is Georgia – we don’t want to LOOK like Philly, New Yerk or Bawston. They’re in debt up to their liberal eye balls with state run and fed gub’ment supported funds. If you like it better up there – feel free to LEAVE!
TaxPayer
January 28th, 2013
10:18 am
Well, the Republican constituency (is they is or is they ain’t their constituency) voted in the Georgia Republicans because they promised to nevah evah raise no taxes on them. Fees are ok though. And increased shifts in current taxes from the wealthiest to the Republican party’s 47% is also ok. I mean, a “rose” by any other name is not a rose. Just ask any Republican. They’ll tells ya.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
10:19 am
occupy a classroom
ATLANTA’s TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM
run by democrats for democrats
only a dumb liberal would attack a democratic run system as bad
too funny
Road Scholar
January 28th, 2013
10:21 am
Unc Samantha: “Georgia roads are among America’s best, state officials say..”
Yes they were. And just who is responsible? GDOT of the past! The same GDOT professionals that are criticized today. Back when the decisions for materials, design, priorities, etc were made by professional engineers, not our new statewide transportation planner…Gov Deal! Back when the transportation board was made up of people who were more interested in quality instead of recent board members only interested in the power they have!
Yes Danny, Atlanta takes in more than it is allowed to spend on its roads. While the statewide balancing on expenditures has been revised a few years ago, the rural sections get more than their fair share. Why? because of the 159 counties in the state, only 40 are urban! Also rural folks think we hogged the money before the Olympics, and they felt that they should get more as payback. But for how long?
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
10:22 am
The best Fed funded highways in the nation are in Robert Bird’s West Virginia……… a life time of Fed gub’ment payoffs to the “PORK” champion of the Dems..
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
10:22 am
“GREAT DEMOCRAT TOM MORELAND”
Oh yea, just like the GREAT DEMOCRAT SONNY PERDUE, or the GREAT DEMOCRAT NATHAN DEAL. Or a host of other GREAT DEMOCRATS in the Georgia Legislature.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
10:24 am
Uncle samantha: “ATLANTA’s TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM
run by democrats for democrats”
Calm down there pardner.
Step back for a second and cool off. Just ask yourself: what transportation-related facility is by far the most significant in the history of the Atlanta region and remains so today? Then ask yourself whether it is built for and enjoyed by “liberals” only. That little mental exercise should help you along a little bit with your confusion.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
10:25 am
hey ROAD SCHOLAR
you are too quick to judge
but wait liberals are emotionally reactive and dont think
read my post about TOM MORELAND
Recon 0311 2533
January 28th, 2013
10:26 am
Vietnam Veterans for John Kerry as our next secretary of state.
http://roanokeslant.blogspot.com/2013/01/vietnam-vets-for-john-kerry-for.html
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
10:27 am
REALLY???
liberals attacking TOM MORELAND and discriminating against THURBERT BAKER
have you no shame libs?
Road Scholar
January 28th, 2013
10:29 am
Unc Samantha: You finally got something right! Tom Moreland was a great commissioner, engineer and leader.So was Rives, Shackelford… When will your beloved GOP do the same? Who do they have NOW?That is what us independents and other Dems have complained about! The CHANGE or the shortage of leadership not dominated by the purely political one up-mans-ship dominating Georgia politics.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
10:29 am
Morality? “Occupy – This is Georgia – we don’t want to LOOK like Philly, New Yerk or Bawston. They’re in debt up to their liberal eye balls with state run and fed gub’ment supported funds”
No, places like Boston eat places like Georgia and Arkansas and Mississippi for breakfast.
The more affluent states like Massachusetts subsidize their more rubish counterparts in places like those states I mentioned.
Tough for you to face, I realize, but you really ought to dry to face facts rather than run away from them.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
10:30 am
Occupy – To a leftist SOCIALIST big gub’ment spending LIberal aka PROGRESSIVE a BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION would be a disaster because you would finally, after all these decades of building the deficit, have to actually PAY FOR your wasteful spending – or heaven forbid – not initiate spending to special interest groups that you can’t afford. A sure death knell to the future of SOCIALISM AS WE KNOW IT.
indigo
January 28th, 2013
10:32 am
Morality – 10:02
None of our government spending programs, Democratic or Republican, are products of a Socialist regime.
Are you ever going to learn what Socialsim actually is or just keep shooting from the hip and continue to look foolish?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
10:33 am
road
you need to go back to school with OCCUPY
it aint my GOP
i am an independent
voted for PEROT twice and LIBERTARIAN TWICE and even NADER
Doggone/GA
January 28th, 2013
10:34 am
“Are you ever going to learn what Socialsim actually is or just keep shooting from the hip and continue to look foolish?”
There’s a term I’ve started using for that: WORM brain (Write Once Read many) – once a “fact” (/sarc) is written to their brains it can never be changed, only repeated and repeated and repeated
td
January 28th, 2013
10:36 am
Here is a nice progressive idea that would solve the transportation problem and it is environmentally friendly.
1: No Semi allowed within 60 miles of Atlanta during the morning of the afternoon rush hour.
2: Tax all businesses, whose working must travel on our roads during rush hour, for not having a plan implemented where at least 25% of their work force is not teleworking or you could give tax credits to businesses that have more then 25% of their work forces teleworking.
Erwin's cat
January 28th, 2013
10:36 am
No, places like Boston eat places like Georgia and Arkansas and Mississippi for breakfast.
considering MA debt per capita is twice what it is in GA…perhaps MA should step away from the breakfast table
Road Scholar
January 28th, 2013
10:36 am
Oh and Tom Moreland is now a Repub! Part of the old “Gwinnett Mafia” that became Georgia’s center of power back in the 90’s which has shifted to NE Georgia now!. I’ve worked for and with Moreland when he was commissioner and when he is a consultant. Brilliant man! He also was smart enough to surround himself with good people! Back in the 70’s and 80’s he really had a vision for Atlanta and Georgia. He did more with less.
Now I ask again.. who is your transportation visionary today?
Whatever
January 28th, 2013
10:37 am
Welcome,
Massachusetts doesn’t look to good on this map.
http://www.forbes.com/2010/01/20/states-debt-pensions-interactive-map.html
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
10:38 am
Moraliy? “This is Georgia – we don’t want to LOOK like Philly, New Yerk or Bawston. They’re in debt up to their liberal eye balls with state run and fed gub’ment supported funds”
This is such a stupid statement that I honestly don’t quite know where to begin.
But I just made up my mind. I’ll begin here: “Bawston. They’re in debt up to their liberal eye balls with state run and fed gub’ment supported funds”.
You’re right in a way that a place like Boston, with its vast high tech and educational complex that is virtually unrivaled in the nation, only real rival being the SF Bay Area (and which, you’ll recall, the boosters and leaders in Georgia spent years and years trying to come up with a slogan to help it compete with, apparently to no avail, btw whatever happened to that effort, I wonder), are awash in federal funding. But just step back outside your rube box for just a half a second and look at what that interrelationship brings to that region. It brings untold affluence and prosperity that is the envy of the country. It works, in other words. And WHY does it work? Because it involves a genuine investment in education and long-run development, technological and intellectual, which brings a bounty back to the region from which it comes. The only thing in the South that even begins to hold a candle to it is the Research Triangle in NC. Just ask any of the leaders in that area what they think about government funding for research and see if they wave it away as just so much waste. You’ll find out otherwise.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
10:39 am
Occupy – Like I said – If you don’t like Georgia feel free to LEAVE….. and don’t let the screen door hit you on the way out. I am from Georgia and proud of it. Northerners are leaving New Yerk, Philly and Bawston in droves…….. even the the natives can no longer stand the over regulation, the extreme tax theft and the high crime.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
10:41 am
“have to actually PAY FOR your wasteful spending”
Tell us Morality, how do the Republicans plan on paying for their 2 wars, socialist Medicare Part D, the Department of Homeland Security, and all the earmarks they approved, which were all washed down with massive tax cuts? Those things were never funded, are still on the books, and most are still active expenses that require more debt.
Please answer, (without the usual distractions.)
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
10:42 am
road…………… are you talking to me?
if you are don’t you understand i think TOM MORELAND was great and was the reason the state of GA has the best roads in the country?
really?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
10:45 am
Morality — “Northerners are leaving New Yerk, Philly and Bawston in droves…….. even the the natives can no longer stand the over regulation, the extreme tax theft and the high crime.”
How many people do you actually *know* from NYC, Philly and Boston?
The folks I know who live there and who want to move *aren’t* citing regulation, taxes and crime as the reasons they want to go elsewhere.
Ronald Reagan
January 28th, 2013
10:46 am
Liberals are the problem & intelligence is the answer! In order to graduate from High School you should be able to read, write & learn to think for yourself. Atlanta is gaining ground on Detroit with it’s Liberal mentality & corrupt Politicians!Third generation Liberalism is the problem with our Country & State.
Whatever
January 28th, 2013
10:46 am
DannyX,
Those things haven’t been paid for and that’s why I quit voting GOP and started voting for a third party since 2010. The Dems also have a long track record of not paying for things and that’s why my dad quit voting for them.
Either way, those things will have to be paid for now and the only way to do that is through drastic cuts and tax increases. Neither of which either side can agree on. It’s the fault of both parties.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
10:46 am
“i think TOM MORELAND”
Tom Moreland had nothing to do with the funding formula.
I guess you are fine with the rural “moochers” and their road welfare. You know, the givers vs takers?
TaxPayer
January 28th, 2013
10:47 am
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
10:48 am
Occupy – All that stuff you are talking about hasn’t gotten Bawton out of debt or stopped them for begging for Fed gub’ment Obama handouts. You “bait and switched” like the usual Progressive Tactics. This “rube” as you call me, has a degree in Biological Chemical Engineering” from Georgia Tech and a Masters in Finance from UGA. Not bragging just want you to know that this “rube” is PROUD to be from Georgia. I was accepted to MIT also but Georgia is where God put me and where I belong. The door is till open for your departure if you aren’t happy with Georgia.
Erwin's cat
January 28th, 2013
10:48 am
Welcome – Step back for a second and cool off. Just ask yourself: what transportation-related facility is by far the most significant in the history of the Atlanta region and remains so today?
That’s easy…Hartsfield
TaxPayer
January 28th, 2013
10:49 am
Cons naturally whine about those other perceived takers because it means that there is less for them to take.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
10:50 am
Morality? ” Northerners are leaving New Yerk, Philly and Bawston in droves…….. even the the natives can no longer stand the over regulation, the extreme tax theft and the high crime”
Really? Droves? Ever been to any of those cities? They’re not exactly Detroit.
Dream on, fella.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
10:51 am
Mama – there are always exceptions – at least they have enough sense to want to escape.
Jay
January 28th, 2013
10:53 am
“considering MA debt per capita is twice what it is in GA…perhaps MA should step away from the breakfast table”
Of course, per capita debt in Alabama is one-fourth that of Georgia, so I’m not sure what that stat is supposed to tell us.
On the other hand, some stats that DO matter:Median family income in Mass. is $23,000 higher than in GA. The unemployment rate of 6.7 percent is considerably lower than GA’s 8.6 percent. Twenty percent of Georgians have no health insurance, the fourth highest in the country. Four percent of those in Massachusetts have no insurance.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
10:53 am
W. T. T. Occupation — “Really? Droves? Ever been to any of those cities? They’re not exactly Detroit.”
Indeed. Anyone who’s been in downtown rush-hour traffic in Boston (especially pre-Big Dig) knows that city is ungodly crowded and its traffic is horrendous. And Manhattan residents usually don’t even own cars; they don’t need them.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
10:53 am
jay
are you proud of yourself…………. you have spawned a gaggle of liberals who dismiss the work of TOM MORELAND…….. one of the greatest GEORGIA DEMOCRAT PUBLIC SERVANTS of the 20th century………….. shame on you JAY……….. shame on you
Erwin's cat
January 28th, 2013
10:54 am
Words never spoken…
when I retire I’m gonna move to Boston
td
January 28th, 2013
10:54 am
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
10:38 am
There are several things you need to understand about the south and they are NOT going to change:
1: We love the FREEDOM of our cars.
2: We love the FREEDOM of our guns.
3: We love the FREEDOM of our God
4: We love the FREEDOM of less government
5: We love the FREEDOM of being able to keep more of our money.
The sooner you realize these 5 basic tenants of the south and learn to LOVE them the better off you will be living here.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
10:54 am
“Morality” — “Mama – there are always exceptions – at least they have enough sense to want to escape.”
I ask you again; how many people do you actually *know* from NYC, Philly and Boston?
The folks I know who live there and who want to move *aren’t* citing regulation, taxes and crime as the reasons they want to go elsewhere.
FWIW, I think the reasons *you* cite are the “exceptions.”
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
10:55 am
“Cons in Georgia proclaim, “If you don’t like it here you can leave,” as they whine about the US”
Lol, Taxpayer. They have been screaming hysterically for the past two months that they were leaving! To places like “socialist” Canada, or third world central American countries. Of course they also signed secession petitions.
Hey cons, Air Somalia is ready when you are.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 28th, 2013
10:56 am
Recon 0311 2533
January 28th, 2013
10:26 am
DEL,
Right or wrong, like it or not, John Kerry stood up for and acted upon what he believed, That is a lot more that what most of us have done.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
10:56 am
really JAY???
Mass. insurance costs again listed as most expensive in the nation
http://www.boston.com/whitecoatnotes/2012/11/09/mass-insurance-costs-again-listed-most-expensive-the-nation/QD3eDjVZM6SEOVmy7ANv7I/story.html
shouldn’t romney care, the building block of obamacare, have made premiums be the lowest in the country by NOW?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
10:56 am
E. Cat — “Words never spoken… when I retire I’m gonna move to Boston”
FWIW, my wife loves it in New England, though she’s only visited there once. And given a choice, I think she’d choose Rhode Island over Massachusetts. In her words, Providence has all the charm and most of the history of Boston, but only half the dirt and construction projects.
Erwin's cat
January 28th, 2013
10:56 am
Jay – On the other hand, some stats that DO matter:Median family income in Mass. is $23,000 higher than in GA. The unemployment rate of 6.7 percent is considerably lower than GA’s 8.6 percent. Twenty percent of Georgians have no health insurance, the fourth highest in the country. Four percent of those in Massachusetts have no insurance.
It’s a little late to endorse Romney Jay…how’s the cost of living compare?
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
11:00 am
poor JAY
it cost more to live in a liberal state like MA………. way more………….
http://www.bestplaces.net/col/?salary=50000&city1=51304000&city2=52507000
A salary of $50,000 in Atlanta, Georgia should increase to $79,149 in Boston, Massachusetts
when you do a cost of living comparison……….. jay’s theory collapses
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
11:00 am
“3: We love the FREEDOM of our God”
No doubt, td!
Like the freedom to change your “word of God” Bibles. You know, like how you now demonize the poor and worship the rich. Instead of peace on earth, Shock and Awe now rule the day. Be sure you show your love of God with your freedom to ignore divorce and re-marriage law. And enjoy your freedom to throw stones at gay people! Freedom from God is more like it.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
11:01 am
X – and that is why I did not vote “W” nor Obama. They are both FISCAL liberals. I am a FISCAL conservative. I voted Perot because he was the only one honest enough to tell us we were in trouble with the Fed debt and he was the only one with the guts to actually tell us what we needed to hear. He is the only one to actually have a plan to curb this Fed debt. As usual, the voters were conned by the PARTY LOYALISTS on the LEFT and RIGHT. Time for TERM LIMITS in Congress to rid us of these PARTY LOYALISTS that are PARTY 1st and the FISCAL future of the U.S. be damned. As I have said many times on here – I am neither a Dem nor a Repub…. I vote FISCAL conservative for the preservation of the future of the USA. I am a USA LOYALIST -
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
11:01 am
The same duty-dodging deception may be employed to produce the public contribution toward financing a new, retractable-roof stadium for the Atlanta Falcons
Because lord knows them rubes need their bread and football circus.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
11:01 am
for you ERWIN
td
January 28th, 2013
11:02 am
Jay
January 28th, 2013
10:53 am
“On the other hand, some stats that DO matter:Median family income in Mass. is $23,000 higher than in GA. The unemployment rate of 6.7 percent is considerably lower than GA’s 8.6 percent. Twenty percent of Georgians have no health insurance, the fourth highest in the country. Four percent of those in Massachusetts have no insurance.”
And what is the cost of living in Mass as compared to GA? I saw a housing show this weekend where a similar size house right outside of Boston went for $450,000 and I paid $180,000 right outside of Atlanta.
How much is this cost of healthcare for the average middle class resident of Mass? How much more are they paying?
Jay
January 28th, 2013
11:03 am
Erwin, claiming that Boston=Massachusetts is like saying that Atlanta=Georgia.
And you know that isn’t true.
Lynnie Gal
January 28th, 2013
11:05 am
The politics of this state are disgusting. Our governor turns down billions of Federal dollars that other states are accepting–money that should go to helping our state’s wage slaves obtain healthcare–but supports taxpayers dollars going to a retractable roof for the Falcon’s new taxpayer subsidized stadium.
tscali
January 28th, 2013
11:05 am
Jerry Brown Is Still Treating California’s Jobless Like Unwanted Stepchildren
In plain terms, Brown did solve the budget deficit, he borrowed his way around it for the short term – thereby ensuring future deficits.
What’s a committed liberal state Governor and Legislature to do beside ignore the facts? Apparently ignore the plight of the jobless. Since Brown has been governor, there has been almost no talk of the jobless despite California being #3 in the Country in unemployment – lagging behind only Nevada and Rhode Island. California has only 12% of the country’s population yet nearly 1/3rd of its welfare recipients.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2013/01/15/jerry-brown-is-still-treating-californias-jobless-like-unwanted-stepchildren/
Cali is on the bullet train to nowhere.
MiltonMan
January 28th, 2013
11:06 am
“I ask you again; how many people do you actually *know* from NYC, Philly and Boston?
The folks I know who live there and who want to move *aren’t* citing regulation, taxes and crime as the reasons they want to go elsewhere.
FWIW, I think the reasons *you* cite are the “exceptions.””
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/wall_st_flees_ny_for_tax_free_fla_Q6e4qSDMUethpylfznC4tO
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
11:06 am
td — “3: We love the FREEDOM of our God”
Tell us again how your god will become petulant and upset if we do not prevent teh s00p@r-ghey from getting married, or if we do not regulate ladies’ hoo-has so that they pump out an unending stream of younguns so that religious private schools can stay open.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
11:09 am
Jay — “Erwin, claiming that Boston=Massachusetts is like saying that Atlanta=Georgia.”
And MiltonMan, claiming that Wall Street = New York State.
Erwin's cat
January 28th, 2013
11:09 am
Erwin, claiming that Boston=Massachusetts is like saying that Atlanta=Georgia.
And you know that isn’t true.
heck..I don’t even know what that means?…besides It was “Welcome” who began comparing Boston to Georgia and Arkansas
Adam
January 28th, 2013
11:13 am
Did someone say people keep moving to Atlanta?
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/real_talk/2012/08/city-of-atlanta-population-growth-lags.html
Between April 2010 and July 2011, other cities outpaced the city of Atlanta in population gains, many of them in Texas, including Houston, which added 45,716 residents; San Antonio, which added 32,152; Austin (up 30,221); and Dallas (up 24,413).
Cities east of the Mississippi also saw greater population growth, including Charlotte (up 19,663) and Raleigh (up 12,565).
Atlanta added 12,422 residents during that same period. Its population stands at 420,005.
Developers with a big presence in Atlanta are likely watching the trends.
WOMP WOMP. But don’t let facts get in the way of a good rant.
Your city sucks and TONS of people know it by now.
Adam
January 28th, 2013
11:15 am
IOW, those with the means to leave do so, those without do not, and transitory job based opportunities (I was offered one once) are not attractive to too many people.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
11:16 am
Mama – my sister lived in Brooklyn for 10 years. I have been there a few times. Bawston? Been there twice – to messed up – roads are a disaster. To much stand still traffic congestion. To much smog. To much. Philly – been there once – not where I want to be after dark. Have to say that NYC is cleaner than it used to be thanks to Gulianni . First time I went to NYC there were drug addicts and whinos laying around on the side walks and people with tin cups on every step of the subway. Garbage every where with the trash collectors out on strike. Smog was bad there also. Of course even Atlanta has a noticeable cloud rising up as you enter the city. I don’t know everyone in these cities but met a few. Most of the polls list high taxes, crime and over regulation as key reasons for wanting to leave. Cost of living is very high. Got to go now – have a NICE day!
the cat
January 28th, 2013
11:17 am
td
January 28th, 2013
10:54 am
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
10:38 am
There are several things you need to understand about the south and they are NOT going to change:
1: We love the FREEDOM of our cars.
2: We love the FREEDOM of our guns.
3: We love the FREEDOM of our God
4: We love the FREEDOM of less government
5: We love the FREEDOM of being able to keep more of our money.
The sooner you realize these 5 basic tenants of the south and learn to LOVE them the better off you will be living here.
td-speak for yourself. I could give a rat’s patootie about 1-3.
Adam
January 28th, 2013
11:18 am
Cars as freedom… lol what a joke. Do you not maintain your vehicle or pay insurance on it?
the cat
January 28th, 2013
11:18 am
td-I might add: Basic Southerners, including you.
1. we can’t spell
2. what is grammar?
3. why go to the dentist, the rotten ones will fall out eventually.
The other half of your brain.
January 28th, 2013
11:21 am
indigo
January 28th, 2013
9:51 am
the other half
Bush’s two credit card wars and generous tax breaks for the rich helped to nearly ruin the American economy.
It’s going to take many years to repair all the damage he did.
So, DARN RIGHT, a lot of our economic troubles ARE his fault
How is Obama paying for them? And please show some facts that Bush did anything different when it comes to giving tax breaks to the rich companies, do you think that Obama gets his money from the poor? DUH!
By the way did you return the 2 checks that Bush sent you? Thought not.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
11:22 am
Adam – clean up your act before going in for an interview. If you think Atlanta “stinks” you are welcome to join “Occupy” on your way OUT.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
11:25 am
“Morality” — “Most of the polls list high taxes, crime and over regulation as key reasons for wanting to leave.”
Really? Substantiate that, please. Most of *what* polls?
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
11:25 am
Morality? “. If you think Atlanta “stinks” you are welcome to join “Occupy” on your way OUT.”
When did I say I think Atlanta stinks?
On the contrary, I’m quite fond of it.
But I am saddened about the fact that, as the old joke goes, the only problem with Atlanta is that it’s in Georgia.
St Simons- island off coast of New Somalia
January 28th, 2013
11:26 am
I’d like to play Monopoly with these cons – with real money heheh
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
11:27 am
Occupy. Adam, the Cat – Atlanta will SMELL better after you are GONE and there won’t be a tear shed on your departure. HAVE A NICE DAY ( smiley face applied for)
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
11:27 am
T. O. Half — “By the way did you return the 2 checks that Bush sent you? Thought not.”
Ah, it’s the return of Tu Quoque the official logic FAIL of Jay’s blog.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
11:29 am
St. Semone – are you male or female TODAY or some where in between?
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
11:30 am
Houston, San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, Charlotte, and Raleigh?
All have Democratic mayors. But, but, but, Detroit!
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
11:30 am
Mama – Google.com – you know how it works.
St Simons - aboriginal
January 28th, 2013
11:31 am
“The sooner you realize these 5 basic tenants of the south and learn
to LOVE them the better off you will be living here.”
Again, I think it bears repeating, let me warn you of the dire
consequences of a lax immigration policy.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
11:32 am
“Morality” — “Mama – Google.com – you know how it works.”
Get to work then. It’s not my job to prove or disprove your claims.
You made the claim, so you get to prove it.
In other words, proof or you made it up/
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
11:32 am
Been to Houston, Texas many times……. as far as cities goes I like it. People there are friendly and will actually talk to you – unlike NYC.
TaxPayer
January 28th, 2013
11:32 am
I’d like to play Monopoly with these cons – with real money heheh
Buy shares in tobacco and gun companies.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
11:32 am
hey OCCUPY
don’t you love OBAMA
guess who he put in TREASURY
Treasury Gets a Citibanker
From Wall Street failure to the pinnacle of finance in four short years..
There was a time when you had to be successful on Wall Street to become secretary of the Treasury. Now along comes presidential nominee Jack Lew, whose only business credential is a stint at the most troubled too-big-to-fail bank.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324734904578243932620870510.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
n
January 28th, 2013
11:33 am
90% of the legislators & elected state officials run for office so they can be in a position to efficiently divert taxpayer money into their pockets and the pockets cronies & campaign donors. It is rare and usually inadvertent if they ever do anything that actually benefits the citizenry.
Progress is a dirty word. Progressives are outcasts and commies, who are not savvy enough to realize that the true business of politicians is to pillage the citizenry, and destroy the institutions of government.
Regnad Kcin
January 28th, 2013
11:34 am
“Mama – Google.com – you know how it works.”
Translation: “I got nothin’.”
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
11:34 am
Mama – Just because you say so doesn’t make it so – good try. You wanted the TRUTH – do what I did – look it up.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
January 28th, 2013
11:34 am
I love being Soutehrn but I cannot wait until I can leave this place and get back to land of weirdos and no state taxes. You guessed it, Florida! Where all the crazy people from this side of the Missisippi go to it seems.
TaxPayer
January 28th, 2013
11:35 am
Y’all done hurt morality’s fee fees. Y’all gotta quit sharing facts with that boy. His system can only digest unskewed polling data.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 28th, 2013
11:35 am
heck..I don’t even know what that means?
Not a shocker.
Gator Joe
January 28th, 2013
11:35 am
Jay,
It’s not helpful to confront right wingers with the truth in large doses as you do daily. It’s like taking individuals who choose to live their entire lives in a cave facing the rear of the cave (i.e. watch Fox, listing to Limbaugh), and suddenly forcing them out into a bright sunny day.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
11:37 am
“Morality” — “Mama – Just because you say so doesn’t make it so – good try.”
Yes. Jusr because you said so doesn’t make it so. Good try.
“You wanted the TRUTH – do what I did – look it up.”
You claim to *have* the truth.. So post it.
Or else admit you can’t.
Gator Joe
January 28th, 2013
11:37 am
Sorry for the typo should read “listening to Limbaugh”.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
11:38 am
Kcin – you never had nothing – and on top of that you are to lazy to get something. I looked it UP. I’m not in charge of educating you – that would be asking way to much.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
11:40 am
“Morality” — ” I looked it UP.”
i think you *made* it up. So post your evidence and prove me wrong.
“I’m not in charge of educating you”
And we’re not in charge of proving or disproving the crap you make up.
Post your evidence or simply admit that you haven’t got any. It’s quite easy.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
11:40 am
Mama _ I can and you can – I refuse to be your “enabler”. Prove I am wrong!
the cat
January 28th, 2013
11:40 am
to too two
they’re their there
who’s whose
geesh, you are keeping up, Not
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 28th, 2013
11:41 am
1: We love the FREEDOM of our cars.
NASCAR. Wooo Hoo.
2: We love the FREEDOM of our guns.
Lets shoot each other. Whoo Hoo
3: We love the FREEDOM of our God
As long as its a Christian God.
4: We love the FREEDOM of less government
And our infrastructure which is falling apart.
5: We love the FREEDOM of being able to keep more of our money.
And spend it on things like guns. Woo Hoo.
Happiness is the South in your rear view mirror. I cant wait to get away from you rednecks.
To the rest of the country the South is a joke. They pay to keep you up with their taxes.
And you dont even appreciate it.
Heck the South wouldn’t even have electricity without the Federal Government.
Secede and the South would be a third world theocracy in 6 months.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
11:43 am
“Morality” — “Mama _ I can and you can – I refuse to be your “enabler”
You refuse to prove your claims. Not a problem. I’ll just call you a liar, then.
“Prove I am wrong!”
You lied about having evidence. Let’s see *you* prove *me* wrong.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
11:43 am
“But I am saddened about the fact that, as the old joke goes, the only problem with Atlanta is that it’s in Georgia.”
Very true, Welcome. Those cities in Texas that are still growing at a good pace are not considered to be enemies of the state. The state actually cooperates with them and doesn’t treat the cities like cash cows.
Texas has done the exact opposite of Georgia and invested tons of money in their big cities to fund transportation improvements. Texas cities have passed special sales tax to fund needed improvements also. Atlanta has too, 1% MARTA tax, the rest of the metro area sits in horrible traffic not willing to pitch in, meanwhile the state government siphons off billions of dollars in gas tax revenue.
Funny how the suburbs throw a fit when Fulton or DeKalb redistribute tax dollars but are completely silent when the state does it. Especially since the state actually redistributes more.
TaxPayer
January 28th, 2013
11:45 am
Cheesy at 11:41,
You nailed it.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
11:47 am
poor cheezer
can’t stand it that the South is the growth of America
Moving South: New data shows Southern region attracting most newcomers
Census data shows the South as the most popular destination.
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. Not as many people are moving between states as they were in earlier decades, but those who do move are choosing to move to the South.
In fact, according to new Census Bureau data released this week, the Southern region of the United States* is the only one to show a net gain in migration over the last five years, growing at the expense of states in the Northeast, Midwest and even the West.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
11:47 am
Mama – YOU prove it if you can……. don’t see anyone moving to NYC, Bawston or Philly BECAUSE of their high taxes, crime rate, over regulation or their high cost of living. Don’t see these as a reason to MOVE to some place…. go ahead and MOVE there if you find these attractive. YOUR lame argument is ridiculous.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
11:48 am
Uncle Samantha: “hey OCCUPY / don’t you love OBAMA”
Me, love Obama? Ha!
You obviously don’t read my posts very carefully, if you have any doubts on that matter.
Mick
January 28th, 2013
11:50 am
recon
Nice…going after kerry, where’s your silver star? Oh yeah, thats right, only you’ve earned the right to speak your mind, which most of us ignore anyways…
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
11:50 am
“Of course thos suburban white folks may have to sit next to some of the common folks on Marta trains.”
No, they’re more likely to be robbed and murdered in the stations before they ever get on the Marta train.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
11:50 am
Cheese Wizz – Let me know when you are gone so we can celebrate!
dbm
January 28th, 2013
11:51 am
Now, if we had laissez-faire capitalism, we would have businessmen looking to profit from the lack of transportation rather than politicians looking to win the next election, and they would have solved the problem long ago.
We also wouldn’t have to worry about being forced to subsidize the very profitable Falcons.
Health care is more complicated, but again a system dominated by government isn’t working.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 28th, 2013
11:52 am
Georgia’s problems = But…but…but…Obama!
Too funny!
TBone
January 28th, 2013
11:52 am
Get used to collapsing infrastructure because the present ruling regime will have its retribution on the red states, of which Georgia is obviously one, for the election results in November. This is a petty bunch of politicians, not a leader in the bunch.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
11:53 am
Cheesey – don’t let the door hit you in the rear end on the way out. The south used to be great until all you creepy yankees moved down here. Yankee go home.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
11:53 am
“Morality” — “Mama – YOU prove it if you can…”
I’ve got nothing to prove, as I didn’t make any assertions about why people were moving. YOU did. So prove your claims now.
“. don’t see anyone moving to NYC, Bawston or Philly BECAUSE of their high taxes, crime rate, over regulation or their high cost of living.”
Of course. And I made no claim that people *were* doing that. (laughing, pointing)
“Don’t see these as a reason to MOVE to some place….”
Of course. And I didn’t claim that they *were.* (giggling)
“go ahead and MOVE there if you find these attractive. YOUR lame argument is ridiculous.”
I LOVE how clueless you are, “Morality.” I didn’t say *why* people were moving, or to where. I simply said that *your* claim didn’t have any evidence to back it up. And predictably, when asked for evidence, you turned coward because you haven’t GOT any evidence to back yourself up.
For someone who makes all sorts of grandiose claims about his intelligence and education, you certainly don’t seem to understand that saying ‘I think you’re wrong about that’ is not the same thing as saying ‘the opposite of your claim must be true.’
My argument? My argument is, quite simply, that your earlier claim about *why* people were leaving was incorrect. And despite your claims to the contrary, we still haven’t seen any evidence supporting what you say.
So get to work, “Morality.” Get that big, throbbing intellect in gear and fetch us some evidence.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
11:53 am
occupy
didn’t mean it literally………….. thought you might recognize the HYPOCRISY of both parties sticking WALL STREETERS into TREASURY to maintain and preserve the system of screwing main street
The other half of your brain.
January 28th, 2013
11:53 am
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
11:43 am
“But I am saddened about the fact that, as the old joke goes, the only problem with Atlanta is that it’s in Georgia.”
Very true, Welcome. Those cities in Texas that are still growing at a good pace are not considered to be enemies of the state. The state actually cooperates with them and doesn’t treat the cities like cash cows.
Texas has done the exact opposite of Georgia and invested tons of money in their big cities to fund transportation improvements. Texas cities have passed special sales tax to fund needed improvements also. Atlanta has too, 1% MARTA tax, the rest of the metro area sits in horrible traffic not willing to pitch in, meanwhile the state government siphons off billions of dollars in gas tax revenue.
Funny how the suburbs throw a fit when Fulton or DeKalb redistribute tax dollars but are completely silent when the state does it. Especially since the state actually redistributes more.
Danny, I could be wrong but when Texas Gov Perry was running for President didn’t the left vilify him about Texas only growing jobs like McDonalds.
Man, you guys want it both ways, that was funny.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
11:53 am
Occupy – TRUE – I’m not here 24/7 so fill me in on your opinion of Prez Obama. Is he to con/lib for you? I mean are you LEFT of Obama – you may be under estimating his true beliefs.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 28th, 2013
11:56 am
poor cheezer
can’t stand it that the South is the growth of America
Thats because companies know they can move here and pay you hillbillies practically nothing.
With no benefits to boot.
And you will just smile back at them with what teeth you have and thank them.
Thats the way they like it.
The other half of your brain.
January 28th, 2013
11:57 am
Mick
January 28th, 2013
11:50 am
recon
Nice…going after kerry, where’s your silver star? Oh yeah, thats right, only you’ve earned the right to speak your mind, which most of us ignore anyways…
Mickey, I don’t think it was Recon who said that he killed Women & Children while in Vietnam. Just sayin.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
11:57 am
DannyX – allow me to correct your typo. The only problem with Georgia is that Atlanta is in it.
td
January 28th, 2013
11:58 am
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 28th, 2013
11:41 am
Please refresh our memories about the number of people that retire to the north? Also, please show us the migration patterns where people are bailing on the south to move up north?
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
11:59 am
Mama – YOU are the one that is claiming that I am wrong about the polls – I have seen ZERO from you to back that accusation up – I think YOU looked it up and aren’t willing to say you were WRONG. I don’t call someone a liar unless I can prove it – so quit running your mouth and PROVE IT!
St Simons - aboriginal
January 28th, 2013
12:00 pm
you’d think after 30 yrs of unregulated supplyside jaysus trickle down,
cons would have picked up on –
Buy (invest, spend) Low (now, duh)- Sell (divest, cut) High (not now, duh)
but nooooo. I mean, how many times do they have to be wrong?
hey, on the other hand,
I see where that no-gene-for-shame/irony might come in handy…
win-ning!
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
12:00 pm
Cheesy – all of us “hillbillies” would be delighted if you’d remove your arrogant buttocks back up north or west or whatever crappy place you came from. We surely don’t want or need you here.
moonbat betty
January 28th, 2013
12:00 pm
What a bunch of hats of ass from the north we have in here today.
stands for decibels
January 28th, 2013
12:01 pm
Grandfathered, full-auto SHEETZ.
The other half of your brain.
January 28th, 2013
12:01 pm
If there are people on here that don’t like the South then get the F*CK OUT. Nobody is making you stay and don’t let the door hit you in the ASS on the way out.
What a bunch of DYCK heads.
td
January 28th, 2013
12:02 pm
Posted this earlier but for some reason none of you progressives even made a comment on an idea that one would think you would wholeheartedly support. One wonders why?
Here is a nice progressive idea that would solve the transportation problem and it is environmentally friendly.
1: No Semi allowed within 60 miles of Atlanta during the morning of the afternoon rush hour.
2: Tax all businesses, whose working must travel on our roads during rush hour, for not having a plan implemented where at least 25% of their work force is not teleworking or you could give tax credits to businesses that have more then 25% of their work forces teleworking.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
12:02 pm
Cheese Wizz – WHY did you come HERE and WHY are you STILL here? You poor miserable soul.
moonbat betty
January 28th, 2013
12:02 pm
oh nooooos!!!
Someone put sugar in the cheezer’s tea!
Thomas
January 28th, 2013
12:03 pm
“Roll there eyes”- interesting as business and folks continue to move to Atlanta/Georgia. Maybe folks are not rolling their eyes at Atlanta but at the person with whom they are speaking- see Michelle O with Boehner
We finally have a mayor that is not making weekly headlines due to corrupt practices- the same cannot be said of other major cities.
I have to laugh at Atlantans who feel compelled to be apologists as if Atlantans are travel agents and Atlanta is a hotel that must make the carpetbaggers fleeing “better places” to find a job and place to live.
If we only had a nationally acclaimed newspaper….
Logical Dude
January 28th, 2013
12:04 pm
Quoting Jay: state leaders solution “was to pass a convoluted, complex approach that tried to dump the state’s responsibility for funding transportation onto local voters and local officials.” “Which they knew would fail” (LD edits)
And of course, they could pass the blame and say “see? SEE? nobody wants to solve the problem by paying for it!”
“state leaders still do not dare to do what they know is necessary. They have no “Plan B.” They do not lead, they follow, and they do so timidly.”
I’m still not sure who they are actually following here. they are definitely not following any leader or plan that actually helps the state move forward.
curious
January 28th, 2013
12:05 pm
td
“There are several things you need to understand about the south and they are NOT going to change:
1: We love the FREEDOM of our cars.
2: We love the FREEDOM of our guns.
3: We love the FREEDOM of our God
4: We love the FREEDOM of less government
5: We love the FREEDOM of being able to keep more of our money.”
Isn’t this the position of the Taliban?
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
12:05 pm
Think I will go heat up some of my Yankee friend’s turkey tofu …. uhhhhh – maybe not.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
12:08 pm
Curious – I doubt that your rank and file Taliban members have cars, government or money. In other words, they are donkey-riding, anarchist, women hating, impoverished puppets
The other half of your brain.
January 28th, 2013
12:08 pm
Isn’t this the position of the Taliban?
Curious, Are you a rocket scientist or a brain surgeon?
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
12:08 pm
Per capita GDP rank
Massachusetts- 6
New York- 7
California- 12
Texas- 24
Pennsylvania- 25
North Carolina- 31
Georgia- 35
Florida- 40
Tennessee- 41
Alabama- 46
South Carolina- 48
Mississippi- 51
Oh yea, the south is doing great!!! (Well, the “liberal” states are.)
GT
January 28th, 2013
12:09 pm
One of the problems with the right is they build huge political movements on these thin truths, or outright lies, and then try to mask it in the Bible or the flag, getting innocent bystanders involved in their sins. They claim their lack of appetite for the gay causes is the Bible tells them these guys are sinners. Never mind it says we all are sinners and somewhere in Matthews 5 are verses about lust rocking all our boats. They used that same line of logic for slavery until it stunk so bad they had to give it a rest.
When you have sheep being lead by sinners the sheep not only have their own sins to tend with they now have picked up the bad habits of the leader and even worse don’t realize they are living a lie. When you keep the church separate from politics and government you can survive the human error of politics by letting the offending entity take the hit. When you mix em all up they all go down the toilet together. In this case it is more the state of Georgia’s problem than the entire country, which will be there to bail these hard headed fools out once again like a big corporate bail out they pretend they are against. There is no greater welfare state than the Peach State and it is no one’s fault but their own.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
12:11 pm
Morality? “Occupy – TRUE – I’m not here 24/7 so fill me in on your opinion of Prez Obama. Is he to con/lib for you? I mean are you LEFT of Obama – you may be under estimating his true beliefs.”
I think Obama is a Democrat of the Robert Rubin/pro-Wall Street stripe. He takes it as a given that globalization and financialization of the economy are entirely irreversible and unalterable processes, and that therefore the best one can hope for is to free them up (lining the pockets of your buddies in high finance in the process) and harness their capacities for growth, at which point one can then see what is left for a few modest, market-based social programs.
As the financial crisis showed, this is a bust. It’s intellectually bankrupt.
But the fact that Obama continues to adhere to this ideology is evidenced by his appointing Rubinites like Tim Geithner and Larry Summers, and now Jack Lew, to his economic team, marginalizing voices who offered some critical views like Paul Volcker.
But of course, what does anyone expect from someone who’s a product of the core of the Democratic party, which is just like its social democratic counterparts around the world such as labour in UK and the European social democracies in going whole hog for this ideology of markets and financial deregulation. Barack Obama is what you get.
The other half of your brain.
January 28th, 2013
12:11 pm
Dannyxxx, So now your making Texas a liberal state? What else do you libs want to change?
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
12:12 pm
Curious Isn’t that the Taliban” – NOT REALLY – Taliban drives camels (not cars), are OBSESSED with their guns and their “god”, love gub’ment as long as they are in charge and don’t have any money which is the primary reason they are MAD to start with.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
12:12 pm
Well DannyX, we’d be doing better but the gub-ment steals all of our money and gives it to the folks sitting on their public housing front porches, watching the drug deals going down, and waiting for their next gub-ment check.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
12:12 pm
“Mississippi- 51″
Oppressed Suth’ner, this is Georgia without Atlanta.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
12:14 pm
“Dannyxxx, So now your making Texas a liberal state?”
Good God! What a hysterical overreaction!
Recon 0311 2533
January 28th, 2013
12:14 pm
Mick,
You’ve never done a good job of ignoring me but other than replying when you often can’t ignore me, I ignore you. BTW…a significant number up and down the chain of swift boat command that’s is far too many to ignore say his Silver Star was not deserved nor his Purple Hearts. Now if you worship John Kerry as a hero you go right ahead and do. I couldn’t care less.
indigo
January 28th, 2013
12:15 pm
the other half – 11:21
Bush put these cuts in.
Obama is trying to repeal them.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/18/tax-cuts-rich_n_848933.html
Getting your information about Obama from Rush and the NRA is really not the smartest thing to do. Duh
The other half of your brain.
January 28th, 2013
12:16 pm
When you have sheep being lead by sinners the sheep not only have their own sins
GT, I’m sure glad Clinton, Weiner, Nagin, Edwards and dozens more were Saints in your goofy book.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
12:17 pm
DannyX – nonsense. If Georgia didn’t have to endure the crooked politics and waste of Atlanta, we would be in an economic upward trend.
td
January 28th, 2013
12:17 pm
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
12:08 pm
1: And these numbers mean what?
2: Where is the link to support your claims?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 28th, 2013
12:18 pm
all of us “hillbillies” would be delighted if you’d remove your arrogant buttocks back up north or west or whatever crappy place you came from.
Not me.
I am happy to have diverse opinions living in this state.
BTW, I was born on Peachtree St., sport
indigo
January 28th, 2013
12:20 pm
Morality – 11:01 “I am a USA LOYALIST”
Actually, you are a simple tool who Rush, the NRA and Republican politicians take full advantage of.
The other half of your brain.
January 28th, 2013
12:20 pm
Indigo, It seems to me that Obama gave Billions to large companies and Wall street, Us taxpayers lost 12 Billion just to GM alone, then another 500 Million to Solyndra. It must feel really good to have selective memory.
You still cashed the 2 checks, didn’t you.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
12:22 pm
If by “diverse opinions” you mean always whining about how backwards southern people are, and how wonderful northerners and westerners are, then I hope you get to read all the whining yankee garbage you desire. I prefer to read comments that offer something positive and meaningful, rather than complaining about how bad we southerners are.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 28th, 2013
12:23 pm
Per capita GDP rank
Massachusetts- 6
New York- 7
California- 12
Texas- 24
Pennsylvania- 25
North Carolina- 31
Georgia- 35
Florida- 40
Tennessee- 41
Alabama- 46
South Carolina- 48
Mississippi- 51
Oh yea, the south is doing great!!! (Well, the “liberal” states are.)
Well said Danny.
Most of these rednecks who have never even been out of the South dont realize there is a great big world out there.
America is a great country. Except for the South.
Id love to see the South secede. Without Federal Tax dollars flowing into the South it would go under pretty quick.
You’d basically have another Afghanistan here.
The other half of your brain.
January 28th, 2013
12:24 pm
Not me.
I am happy to have diverse opinions living in this state.
WOW! Judging from some of your past posts That surprises me.
Taxi Smith
January 28th, 2013
12:24 pm
Sonny Perdue set Georgia twenty years back when he extended the Ga. 400 toll. We don’t trust anyone now. And why should we??
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
12:25 pm
“DannyX – nonsense. If Georgia didn’t have to endure the crooked politics and waste of Atlanta, we would be in an economic upward trend.”
LOL! You want crooked politics???? How about Nathan Deal, Sonny Perdue, Linda Schrenko, Glenn Richardson, John Oxendine, Beth Merkleson, Don Balfour, Ralph Reed, Chip Rogers, Tom Graves, and John Ralston!!!
Upward trend! LOL!
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 28th, 2013
12:26 pm
If Georgia didn’t have to endure the crooked politics and waste of Atlanta, we would be in an economic upward trend.
LOL
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
12:27 pm
“Id love to see the South secede. Without Federal Tax dollars flowing into the South it would go under pretty quick.
You’d basically have another Afghanistan here.”
I think you’ve confused the south with Detroit, New York and Cleveland. I’m sure they would all love to have your superior brain leading the way in their beautiful confines.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
12:29 pm
Occupy – “lining your buddies pocket’s” – you got me wrong there. These “bankers” aren’t my buddies. As you may recall the BAILOUT of the big banks was O.K.’d by BOTH parties and Obama voted YES also. I would have closed down the criminal banks (put them out of business) and moved their remaining “assets” (customers) to responsible banks. I would have confiscated all of the personal property of the criminals (their homes, cars, etc) and used the assets to pay off some of the bad debt. I would have put these criminal bankers in prison for 20 years. Instead, what did the gub’ment do? They left the crooked banks in business and the crooks in charge of the banks (for the most part). We STILL have the same problem – crooked banks and bankers – in charge! There once was a Savings & Loan Crisis similar to the banking situation and this is how it was handled. Now there are few if any Savings and Loans left – and good riddance! Why didn’t Congress follow this proven system? Because Congress is on the TAKE. MONEY runs Congress. We need TERM LIMITS for Congress to rid us of these long time PARTY LOYALISTS that put their PARTY above the FISCAL security of the USA. There was a time when what they hav done to this country would have been considered TREASON.
Thomas
January 28th, 2013
12:35 pm
I am shocked by the number of racists on this blog who are directly pointing out that minorities skew downwards GDP for the state. Really shocked at the racial under tones.
# of African Americans by state
1 Mississippi 1,074,200 37.30%
2 Louisiana 1,452,396 31.98%
3 Georgia 2,950,435 30.02%
Georgia #7 in estimated illegal immigrants by state
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
12:35 pm
GDP, cities.
New York- 1.2 trillion
LA- 735 billion
Chicago- 532 billion
Boston- 313 billion
Atlanta- 272 billion
GT
January 28th, 2013
12:36 pm
GT, I’m sure glad Clinton, Weiner, Nagin, Edwards and dozens more were Saints in your goofy book.
Seems like hating is a team sport, us against them, loving is an individual sport that tends not to drag all of us down with it. You have built a whole political movement over and over again on hate. Not one law has changed because of these moments of lust, in fact instead of bragging about how much you hate somebody, the guy having a love affair is trying his or her best to keep it quiet. Seem like it should be just the opposite.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
12:38 pm
“Georgia #7 in estimated illegal immigrants by state”
And where does #12 California and #24 Texas rank?
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
12:39 pm
Here you go DannyX – Bill Campbell, Kasim Reed, Andy Young, Billy McKinney, Shirley Franklin. And in neighboring DeKalb, Vernon Jones, Burrell Ellis, Cynthia McKinney, and the list just goes on and on and on. The land of corruption.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
12:41 pm
Indigo – ARE you brain dead? I have told you I did not vote for “W” or Obama ’cause they are FISCAL liberals. Rush is a Repub PARTY LOYALIST as far as I know – haven’t heard him in the last two/three years. Can’t get him on the radio here in south Georgia. You, on the other hand. and I know that “profiling” is politically incorrect, are a left of center LIB for Obama. You need to understand this – Obama is not like you. Obama is a multi millionaire owner of 4 mansions in four different states that are kept by a superb staff of servants (housekeepers, gardeners, etc.). Obama is a member of the dreaded 1%, I am not a Repub – sorry to disappoint you.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
12:42 pm
New slogan for Atlanta – The land of the crooks and the home of the depraved.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
12:45 pm
“Georgia is #7 on the list for illegal immigrants”…….. not doubting you so much as interested at how these figures were derived since illegals don’t usually respond to polls or walk around with an “i” on their forehead.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
12:45 pm
“and the list just goes on and on and on.”
It sure does. You made the point that Democratic corruption was holding back the state, and ignored the big GOP log in your eye. I just pointed out the obvious.
(Btw. why didn’t anyone from Gwinnett County make your list?)
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
12:47 pm
“New slogan for Atlanta – The land of the crooks and the home of the depraved.”
Is Linda Schrenko still in prison for stealing money from a deaf school fund so she could pay for a face lift? Oh yea, she is.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
12:51 pm
As soon as Obama legalizes every breathing soul just in time for the next election – whoops! Dem’s flawed strategy. By then the Obama “Big D” will be upon us and the Dem Party’s popularity will be ZERO – unemployment will be 20% +. These former illegal aliens won’t be so happy with the Dems when they can’t find work or get a check from the bankrupt gub’ment. 3rd PARTY!
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
12:51 pm
“Morality” — “Mama – YOU are the one that is claiming that I am wrong about the polls”
You’re making claims about what the polls supposedly say.
“– I have seen ZERO from you to back that accusation up –”
I’ve seen ZERO from you to support your claim.
“I think YOU looked it up and aren’t willing to say you were WRONG.”
I don’t think you looked up ANYTHING and you’re too lazy to do it.
“I don’t call someone a liar unless I can prove it”
You yourself claimed that “Most of the polls list high taxes, crime and over regulation as key reasons for wanting to leave.” Fine. Prove it. Prove that “most of the polls” say that.
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2013/01/28/georgias-leaders-continue-to-duck-tough-decisions/?cp=3#comment-1216176
“– so quit running your mouth and PROVE IT!”
Quit running your mouth and PROVE that “Most of the polls list high taxes, crime and over regulation as key reasons for wanting to leave.”
Or simply admit that you made it up and can’t prove it at all.
Morality?
January 28th, 2013
12:53 pm
Mama – Time has passed you bye (pun intended).
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
12:56 pm
” Dem’s flawed strategy.”
Wrong again. That was Ronald Reagan’s strategy. Reagan gave amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. Those now legal aliens are now voting democrat, so are their children and grandchildren.
Mexican-Americans consider Ronaldo Reagan to be the Padre of our country.
Georgia Peach Rose
January 28th, 2013
12:56 pm
I say, I say, please don’t throw me in the brier patch…
GT
January 28th, 2013
12:57 pm
The Republicans are almost a organized crime endorsed by each member. You join the party because you are a white, male, bluecollar that hates anything that is not you. These Democratic crooks are not endorsed by the left and funded by wealthy haters like the right. Nope the left is a cash and carry one man show usually where that one bozo goes to jail. When the right has one go to jail usually there are 10 or 15 more involved that should have gone but didn’t.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
12:58 pm
THOMAS
what do you expect………… white racist liberals voted ROY BARNES to run against DEAL……… they discriminated against THURBERT BAKER who was a STERLING PUBLIC SERVANT and who most GEORGIANS respect…………. he took on the corruptness of one said ROY BARNES…………
but no…….. white racist liberals wanted their own BOY ROY!
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
12:59 pm
DannyX – I don’t give a rat’s behind about Linda Schrenko. I didn’t vote for her. You think that all the problems we are encountering in the south are because of its so-called “backwards” people. My contention is that these problems increased with the influx of folks migrating to the south from other regions, and from the ascension of the corrupt into positions of power, on both sides of the aisle. The crime we now experience simply either did not exist, or was much, much lower when Georgia was a true “Southern” state, rather than a place of exile for the dregs of northern society.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
1:00 pm
Recon — “BTW…a significant number up and down the chain of swift boat command that’s is far too many to ignore say his Silver Star was not deserved nor his Purple Hearts.”
And if that’s so, then their complaint lies with the Department of the Navy and their procedures. The approval process leading to the awarding of Kerry’s medals was audited and no irregularities were found. Besides, several of the Swift Boat Vets for Lies who have signed affidavits claiming that Kerry didn’t deserve his medals later recanted, stating that they had no first-hand knowledge of the events to which they had attested.
Besides, one of the Swift Boat Vets for Lies actually *put Kerry in* for at least one of his decorations. Follow up on on LCDR George Elliott, a member of the Smear Boat Vets, who was the guy that *put Kerry in* for his Silver Star.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 28th, 2013
1:02 pm
“Morality” — “Mama – Time has passed you bye (pun intended).”
Shame you can’t man up and be honest about your claims.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 28th, 2013
1:02 pm
SHAME SHAME SHAME
Party Candidate Votes Percentage
Democratic Roy Barnes 259,482 65.6%
Democratic Thurbert Baker 85,571 21.6%
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
1:02 pm
GT – if you say so. I’m not a republican. However, I frankly don’t see any improvement on the left either.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
1:07 pm
“DannyX – I don’t give a rat’s behind about Linda Schrenko.”
I’m sure you didn’t vote for Sonny Perdue or Nathan Deal either. Nathan Deal is the Governor, btw. He was a big spending tax cutter in the US House. He resigned because of some embarrassing ethics charges. He was fiercely protecting a no-bid government contract. He went bankrupt. He is now the Governor of Georgia, Republicans in Ga. decided he should be promoted He is a lock for re-election.
Deal is a native Georgian.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 28th, 2013
1:10 pm
Moraliy? ” I would have closed down the criminal banks (put them out of business) and moved their remaining “assets” (customers) to responsible banks”
Well, unfortunately for you, they weren’t interested in your opinion.
Wall Street had other ideas, ideas supported by both parties, and those ideas won out. Sorry.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
1:10 pm
” I’m not a republican.”
Another “I am too embarrassed to admit I’m a Republican” Republican!
Its funny Uncle Samantha claims that too, but is also 100% partisan on this blog.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 28th, 2013
1:13 pm
I prefer to read comments that offer something positive and meaningful, rather than complaining about how bad we southerners are.
And I prefer southerners with real southern hospitality.
But we inhabit a less than ideal world.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
1:14 pm
“Party Candidate Votes Percentage
Democratic Roy Barnes 259,482 65.6%
Democratic Thurbert Baker 85,571 21.6%”
Wow, those numbers show a hell of a lot of blacks had to have voted for Barnes. Of course when blacks voted for Obama in large numbers it was because they only vote for black candidates.
You guys really should get your stories straight!
GT
January 28th, 2013
1:15 pm
Oppressed Suth’ner you have been drinking your own moonshine.
The south is nothing if it is not and always has been one of the most crooked crowds of people on the face of the earth. The Dixiecrats operated like Democrats but couldn’t get the traction they have with the Republicans, who were very weak in the south, mainly because they were honest, until they started taking in the disenfranchised redneck no longer welcomed in the Democratic Party. Lots of Strom Thurmans and about every politician in the Republican Party in Georgia were a Democrat. That is why Johnny I. is good as a Republican he was always one, and always honest never part of the fence jumping. Now the Republican has zero character, outside Johnny I and Saxby who just grew a backbone the last few months. Who wants to bring business to a third world banana republic that has been stealing for decades.
Thomas
January 28th, 2013
1:19 pm
Uh don’t know Danny X- shall I send you a “how to google” instructions?
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
1:23 pm
“how to google” instructions?”
What would you know about Google, Thomas? Google is a company founded by liberals, who employ thousands of liberals, and are based in liberal California. Surely you want no part of it.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 28th, 2013
1:29 pm
My contention is that these problems increased with the influx of folks migrating to the south from other regions, and from the ascension of the corrupt into positions of power, on both sides of the aisle.
Herman Talmadge’s overcoat says, “What?”
Mick
January 28th, 2013
1:43 pm
recon
I’ll tell you what, anyone that served in vietnam has there own story, far be it from me to dispute it…walk a mile in a man’s shoes then you’ll surely know more about that man…that goes for all of us here. The swift boaters were contradicted by people who served with kerry. I would think you all would have more of a problem with bush and his magical disappearance of nonshows in alabama forsaking his duty during wartime. He certainly didn’t spare reserve units to be included in his iraqi war…
Thomas
January 28th, 2013
1:46 pm
Here you go lil Racer X
California Poverty Rate Highest In Nation Based On New Census Department Figures
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/california-poverty_n_2132920.html
boarder state
January 28th, 2013
1:52 pm
Georgia leadership. Voters, all lined up to buy guns and ammo, all afraid. Even the commentary is a collection of name-calling keyboard-cowards. Georgia goin’ nowhere…but at least there’ll be a toll. And the ol’ boys’ll steal THAT, too.
Thomas
January 28th, 2013
1:55 pm
and are based in liberal California. Surely you want no part of it.
Actually lil Racer X I employ with full benefits 200+ disabled and disadvanted folks.
Small minded simple thoughts
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
2:03 pm
“Actually lil Racer X I employ with full benefits 200+ disabled and disadvanted folks.”
Really what company is that? I’d like to support your business.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:07 pm
“Oppressed Suth’ner you have been drinking your own moonshine.
The south is nothing if it is not and always has been one of the most crooked crowds of people on the face of the earth. The Dixiecrats operated like Democrats but couldn’t get the traction they have with the Republicans, who were very weak in the south, mainly because they were honest, until they started taking in the disenfranchised redneck no longer welcomed in the Democratic Party. Lots of Strom Thurmans and about every politician in the Republican Party in Georgia were a Democrat. That is why Johnny I. is good as a Republican he was always one, and always honest never part of the fence jumping. Now the Republican has zero character, outside Johnny I and Saxby who just grew a backbone the last few months. Who wants to bring business to a third world banana republic that has been stealing for decades.”
I would have voted for Saxby had he not chosen to take himself out of the race. You try to ascribe your evil onto us Southerners. Own up to it for yourself. Don’t blame others for your evil character flaws.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 28th, 2013
2:08 pm
I employ with full benefits 200+ disabled and disadvanted[sic] folks.
I employ with full benefits 20,000,000 folks.
And I have a date with Sarah Shahi tonight.
After I have dinner with Morgan Fairchild.
Yeah, that’s the ticket.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:11 pm
“DannyX – I don’t give a rat’s behind about Linda Schrenko.”
I’m sure you didn’t vote for Sonny Perdue or Nathan Deal either. Nathan Deal is the Governor, btw. He was a big spending tax cutter in the US House. He resigned because of some embarrassing ethics charges. He was fiercely protecting a no-bid government contract. He went bankrupt. He is now the Governor of Georgia, Republicans in Ga. decided he should be promoted He is a lock for re-election.
Deal is a native Georgian.”
Nope. Didn’t vote for Perdue. Didn’t vote for Deal. Did you?
Oh my gosh, not a native Georgian. How terrible. I believe they call thinking like that “prejudice.”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 28th, 2013
2:13 pm
You try to ascribe your evil onto us Southerners.
David “Diaper Boy” Vitter says, “What?”
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:14 pm
“My contention is that these problems increased with the influx of folks migrating to the south from other regions, and from the ascension of the corrupt into positions of power, on both sides of the aisle.
Herman Talmadge’s overcoat says, “What?””
You could actually go outside with no thought of being abducted. Drive-by shootings were unheard of. You can’t say those things now, can you?
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
2:15 pm
“Oh my gosh, not a native Georgian. How terrible. I believe they call thinking like that “prejudice.””
Just what the heck are you mumbling about?
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:17 pm
Sorry Kam, don’t know “Diaper Boy” as you call him. Don’t care to.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:19 pm
Are you really that clueless Danny? Basing your opinion solely on where someone is from is no different than basing your opinion solely on race, religion, etc.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 28th, 2013
2:21 pm
…don’t know “Diaper Boy” as you call him.
And there’s your sign.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:22 pm
Kam – Should I know who he is? Why?
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
2:26 pm
“Basing your opinion solely on where someone is from is no different than basing your opinion solely on race, religion, etc.”
Please show me where I did that! I’ll be waiting…
You are the one blaming Yankees for all our problems. That is when your not blaming Atlanta politicians while ignoring Republicans at the state level.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 28th, 2013
2:27 pm
You could actually go outside with no thought of being abducted.
Mary Shotwell Little and Barbara Jane Mackle say, “What”?
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:32 pm
“Kam-Mary Shotwell Little and Barbara Jane Mackle say, “What”?”
It wasn’t an everyday occurrence like it is now, was it?
Danny, what was it we were supposed to be gleaning from this statement?
“Deal is a native Georgian.” All native Georgians are bad?
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:33 pm
Oh, and I bet neither Herman Talmadge, Mary Shotwell Little or Barbara Jane Mackle say, “What?” or anything else for that matter. They are not with us any more.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 28th, 2013
2:35 pm
It wasn’t an everyday occurrence like it is now, was it?
And here we have another recipient of the Capt. Picard goalposts with warp-drive.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:35 pm
My bad, I just assumed Barbara Jane Mackle was deceased by now.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:37 pm
Yeah, Kam I hate it when you move the goalposts like that. And you do it with a straight face (ostensibly – I can’t see you, but it sounds like a serious reply anyway.)
Adam
January 28th, 2013
2:38 pm
Morality?: Never said the city “stinks” but I also don’t even live in your state nor would I ever choose to completely of my own free will.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 28th, 2013
2:40 pm
They are not with us any more.
Really?
Mackle graduated from Everglades School for Girls in Coconut Grove.[3] Mackle went on to marry Woodward and have two children. At last report she was living in Florida. She declines all requests for interviews.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:41 pm
See my 2:35 post Kam.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:42 pm
I’m sure you saw it, but just chose to ignore it. Typical.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
2:46 pm
“Deal is a native Georgian.” All native Georgians are bad?”
Lol! Not at all, it was in reply to your ridiculous notion that all the problems in Georgia are caused by yankees, I guess you blame Deal’s unethical behavior on the yankees!
You also said this about Atlanta…”New slogan for Atlanta – The land of the crooks and the home of the depraved.”
You followed that up with this gem, “Basing your opinion solely on where someone is from is no different than basing your opinion solely on race, religion, etc.” Hypocrite much????
You are one twisted person.
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
2:49 pm
“it wasn’t an everyday occurrence like it is now, was it?”
Murders in Atlanta in 1974- 263
Murders in Atlanta in 2012- 85
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:49 pm
We can’t all be wonderful geniuses like you Danny. We just have to live in awe of you and attempt to repress our Danny envy.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:49 pm
How about 1965?
DannyX
January 28th, 2013
2:53 pm
In 1963 there were 87 murders, 2 more than 2012!
You lose again Oppressed Suth’ner.
Steve Kohler
January 28th, 2013
2:54 pm
Don’t forget the dismantling of the GA EPD.
Air and Water pollution is on the increase, not decrease, and
the political system just keeps dismantling and putting more money
in their own corrupt pockets.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
2:56 pm
Danny – u keepin score? how pathetic.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
3:01 pm
“In 1963 there were 87 murders, 2 more than 2012!
You lose again Oppressed Suth’ner.”
Yeah, the crime did move out into the ‘burbs with the population shifts didn’t it?
GT
January 28th, 2013
3:17 pm
Oppressed Suth’ner in a hundred words or less how are you helping this state assuming you are a Republican. Name one thing good you think your state party has done for you or us, I am a life time Georgia myself, and nothing is spelled nothing which will be well under your limit of 100 words.
SeenItAll
January 28th, 2013
3:29 pm
Duck major decisions? You mean our Republican lawmakers? Never! They make major decisions all the time about how to line the pockets of their cronies. It all depends on what kind of major decisions you are talking about and if their rich friends can profit from them.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 28th, 2013
4:32 pm
GT – I already indicated that I am not a republican. I am not a democrat. Both parties are extremists that exercise no common sense, nor do they care about what would actually be good for the people of this state or this nation.
Healthy ones
January 28th, 2013
4:41 pm
Check out where Georgia stands among America’s healthiest and unhealthiest states: it was in the bottom 10 (41st to be exact). See: http://www.forbes.com/2008/12/04/healthy-unhealthy-obesity-forbeslife-cx_ds_1205health.html
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
January 28th, 2013
7:47 pm
Who should we emulate – Illinois? Just got another downgrade (after a stiff personal income tax increase) – minimum investment grade is right around the corner, junk status in the not-to-distant future. California? So broke its pathetic. New York? As soon as the bankers figure out they can run their businesses just as well from Florida (which they are in the process of figuring out), New York will be worse than Illinois.
Daedalus
January 29th, 2013
9:23 am
Let’s face it, transit and transportation solutions in this state are moribund and Deal and Ralston won’t lift a stubby pink finger to help metro Atlanta — especially if it means allowing metro Atlanta tax dollars to stay in metro Atlanta.
But whatever happened to the Tea Pary and Sierra Club teaming up to propose funding solutions after they torpedoed the T-SPLOST.
Better check the milk cartons because Debbie Dooley (Tea-Partt) and Colleen Kiernan (Sierra Club) have gone missing in inaction.