Georgia’s leaders continue to duck tough decisions

By the end of his second term, Gov. Sonny Perdue understood that transportation in Georgia was badly underfunded and had been underfunded for years, harming the quality of life of Georgia citizens and damaging its economy.

Legislative leaders, including chairmen of the House and Senate transportation committees, shared that conviction. Yet when it came time to correct the problem, they balked. The best they could manage — and it took years of halting work to accomplish even that much — was to pass a convoluted, complex approach that tried to dump the state’s responsibility for funding transportation onto local voters and local officials.

In the end, the TSPLOST work-around didn’t work and the funding shortage continues. But Perdue’s successor, Nathan Deal, and his fellow state leaders still do not dare to do what they know is necessary. They have no “Plan B.” They do not lead, they follow, and they do so timidly.

And it’s not just transportation. Consider Medicaid and the state’s so-called “bed tax” charged to hospital patients. Again, Georgia leaders from Deal on down understand the necessity of renewing the tax, which expires this year. Without the revenue raised through the tax, Georgia would lose $400 million in federal Medicaid funding, forcing drastic cutbacks in payments to Medicaid service providers and probably forcing the closure of rural hospitals.

Yet they can’t bring themselves to do what they know is necessary. Not directly, anyway. Instead, they have engineered another work-around, creating legislation that shunts responsibility for the bed tax — renamed a fee — onto state bureaucrats, who have been given the “authority” to levy the fee themselves. That way, no politician has his or her fingerprints on a tax renewal.

But how long can this charade be sustained?

The same duty-dodging deception may be employed to produce the public contribution toward financing a new, retractable-roof stadium for the Atlanta Falcons. Personally, I don’t think that in times such as these, scarce tax resources ought to be used to subsidize a highly profitable business. But powerful leaders in this state have decided otherwise. The governor wants it. Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed wants it. The state’s business community wants it.

But again, state leaders are plotting ways to avoid a legislative vote, this time by shifting the responsibility onto those “tax-happy liberals” at the city of Atlanta.

Earlier this week, in joint House and Senate budget hearings, Deal bragged that “We have reduced per capita spending of state dollars for our citizens. Using 2012 dollars, we are spending money at a rate of 17 percent less than we did a decade ago. And we now have 9,000 fewer state employees than we did five years ago.”

Great. But we also have a badly inadequate transportation system, a higher ed system that is taking yet another major cut to its budget, public school systems that can’t stay open the minimum 180 days a year and a bureaucracy no longer able to perform basic government functions in a timely manner. We are allowing the work of a generation to come unraveled.

But at least we still have a Legislature that can say it didn’t vote for a tax increase, if only in the same, technical sense in which Bill Clinton could say that he “never had sex with that woman.”

– Jay Bookman

373 comments Add your comment

Jay

January 28th, 2013
11:03 am

Erwin, claiming that Boston=Massachusetts is like saying that Atlanta=Georgia.

And you know that isn’t true.

Lynnie Gal

January 28th, 2013
11:05 am

The politics of this state are disgusting. Our governor turns down billions of Federal dollars that other states are accepting–money that should go to helping our state’s wage slaves obtain healthcare–but supports taxpayers dollars going to a retractable roof for the Falcon’s new taxpayer subsidized stadium.

tscali

January 28th, 2013
11:05 am

Jerry Brown Is Still Treating California’s Jobless Like Unwanted Stepchildren

In plain terms, Brown did solve the budget deficit, he borrowed his way around it for the short term – thereby ensuring future deficits.

What’s a committed liberal state Governor and Legislature to do beside ignore the facts? Apparently ignore the plight of the jobless. Since Brown has been governor, there has been almost no talk of the jobless despite California being #3 in the Country in unemployment – lagging behind only Nevada and Rhode Island. California has only 12% of the country’s population yet nearly 1/3rd of its welfare recipients.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2013/01/15/jerry-brown-is-still-treating-californias-jobless-like-unwanted-stepchildren/

Cali is on the bullet train to nowhere.

MiltonMan

January 28th, 2013
11:06 am

“I ask you again; how many people do you actually *know* from NYC, Philly and Boston?

The folks I know who live there and who want to move *aren’t* citing regulation, taxes and crime as the reasons they want to go elsewhere.

FWIW, I think the reasons *you* cite are the “exceptions.””

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/wall_st_flees_ny_for_tax_free_fla_Q6e4qSDMUethpylfznC4tO

Joe Hussein Mama

January 28th, 2013
11:06 am

td — “3: We love the FREEDOM of our God”

Tell us again how your god will become petulant and upset if we do not prevent teh s00p@r-ghey from getting married, or if we do not regulate ladies’ hoo-has so that they pump out an unending stream of younguns so that religious private schools can stay open.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 28th, 2013
11:09 am

Jay — “Erwin, claiming that Boston=Massachusetts is like saying that Atlanta=Georgia.”

And MiltonMan, claiming that Wall Street = New York State.

:roll:

Erwin's cat

January 28th, 2013
11:09 am

Erwin, claiming that Boston=Massachusetts is like saying that Atlanta=Georgia.

And you know that isn’t true.

heck..I don’t even know what that means?…besides It was “Welcome” who began comparing Boston to Georgia and Arkansas

Adam

January 28th, 2013
11:13 am

Did someone say people keep moving to Atlanta?

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/real_talk/2012/08/city-of-atlanta-population-growth-lags.html

Between April 2010 and July 2011, other cities outpaced the city of Atlanta in population gains, many of them in Texas, including Houston, which added 45,716 residents; San Antonio, which added 32,152; Austin (up 30,221); and Dallas (up 24,413).

Cities east of the Mississippi also saw greater population growth, including Charlotte (up 19,663) and Raleigh (up 12,565).

Atlanta added 12,422 residents during that same period. Its population stands at 420,005.

Developers with a big presence in Atlanta are likely watching the trends.

WOMP WOMP. But don’t let facts get in the way of a good rant.

Your city sucks and TONS of people know it by now.

Adam

January 28th, 2013
11:15 am

IOW, those with the means to leave do so, those without do not, and transitory job based opportunities (I was offered one once) are not attractive to too many people.

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
11:16 am

Mama – my sister lived in Brooklyn for 10 years. I have been there a few times. Bawston? Been there twice – to messed up – roads are a disaster. To much stand still traffic congestion. To much smog. To much. Philly – been there once – not where I want to be after dark. Have to say that NYC is cleaner than it used to be thanks to Gulianni . First time I went to NYC there were drug addicts and whinos laying around on the side walks and people with tin cups on every step of the subway. Garbage every where with the trash collectors out on strike. Smog was bad there also. Of course even Atlanta has a noticeable cloud rising up as you enter the city. I don’t know everyone in these cities but met a few. Most of the polls list high taxes, crime and over regulation as key reasons for wanting to leave. Cost of living is very high. Got to go now – have a NICE day!

the cat

January 28th, 2013
11:17 am

td

January 28th, 2013
10:54 am
Welcome to the Occupation

January 28th, 2013
10:38 am

There are several things you need to understand about the south and they are NOT going to change:

1: We love the FREEDOM of our cars.
2: We love the FREEDOM of our guns.
3: We love the FREEDOM of our God
4: We love the FREEDOM of less government
5: We love the FREEDOM of being able to keep more of our money.

The sooner you realize these 5 basic tenants of the south and learn to LOVE them the better off you will be living here.

td-speak for yourself. I could give a rat’s patootie about 1-3.

Adam

January 28th, 2013
11:18 am

Cars as freedom… lol what a joke. Do you not maintain your vehicle or pay insurance on it?

the cat

January 28th, 2013
11:18 am

td-I might add: Basic Southerners, including you.

1. we can’t spell
2. what is grammar?
3. why go to the dentist, the rotten ones will fall out eventually.

The other half of your brain.

January 28th, 2013
11:21 am

indigo

January 28th, 2013
9:51 am

the other half

Bush’s two credit card wars and generous tax breaks for the rich helped to nearly ruin the American economy.

It’s going to take many years to repair all the damage he did.

So, DARN RIGHT, a lot of our economic troubles ARE his fault

How is Obama paying for them? And please show some facts that Bush did anything different when it comes to giving tax breaks to the rich companies, do you think that Obama gets his money from the poor? DUH!

By the way did you return the 2 checks that Bush sent you? Thought not.

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
11:22 am

Adam – clean up your act before going in for an interview. If you think Atlanta “stinks” you are welcome to join “Occupy” on your way OUT.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 28th, 2013
11:25 am

“Morality” — “Most of the polls list high taxes, crime and over regulation as key reasons for wanting to leave.”

Really? Substantiate that, please. Most of *what* polls?

Welcome to the Occupation

January 28th, 2013
11:25 am

Morality? “. If you think Atlanta “stinks” you are welcome to join “Occupy” on your way OUT.”

When did I say I think Atlanta stinks?

On the contrary, I’m quite fond of it.

But I am saddened about the fact that, as the old joke goes, the only problem with Atlanta is that it’s in Georgia.

St Simons- island off coast of New Somalia

January 28th, 2013
11:26 am

I’d like to play Monopoly with these cons – with real money heheh

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
11:27 am

Occupy. Adam, the Cat – Atlanta will SMELL better after you are GONE and there won’t be a tear shed on your departure. HAVE A NICE DAY ( smiley face applied for)

Joe Hussein Mama

January 28th, 2013
11:27 am

T. O. Half — “By the way did you return the 2 checks that Bush sent you? Thought not.”

Ah, it’s the return of Tu Quoque the official logic FAIL of Jay’s blog. :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
11:29 am

St. Semone – are you male or female TODAY or some where in between?

DannyX

January 28th, 2013
11:30 am

Houston, San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, Charlotte, and Raleigh?

All have Democratic mayors. But, but, but, Detroit!

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
11:30 am

Mama – Google.com – you know how it works.

St Simons - aboriginal

January 28th, 2013
11:31 am

“The sooner you realize these 5 basic tenants of the south and learn
to LOVE them the better off you will be living here.”

Again, I think it bears repeating, let me warn you of the dire
consequences of a lax immigration policy.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 28th, 2013
11:32 am

“Morality” — “Mama – Google.com – you know how it works.”

Get to work then. It’s not my job to prove or disprove your claims.

You made the claim, so you get to prove it.

In other words, proof or you made it up/

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
11:32 am

Been to Houston, Texas many times……. as far as cities goes I like it. People there are friendly and will actually talk to you – unlike NYC.

TaxPayer

January 28th, 2013
11:32 am

I’d like to play Monopoly with these cons – with real money heheh

Buy shares in tobacco and gun companies.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

January 28th, 2013
11:32 am

hey OCCUPY

don’t you love OBAMA

guess who he put in TREASURY

Treasury Gets a Citibanker
From Wall Street failure to the pinnacle of finance in four short years..

There was a time when you had to be successful on Wall Street to become secretary of the Treasury. Now along comes presidential nominee Jack Lew, whose only business credential is a stint at the most troubled too-big-to-fail bank.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324734904578243932620870510.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

n

January 28th, 2013
11:33 am

90% of the legislators & elected state officials run for office so they can be in a position to efficiently divert taxpayer money into their pockets and the pockets cronies & campaign donors. It is rare and usually inadvertent if they ever do anything that actually benefits the citizenry.
Progress is a dirty word. Progressives are outcasts and commies, who are not savvy enough to realize that the true business of politicians is to pillage the citizenry, and destroy the institutions of government.

Regnad Kcin

January 28th, 2013
11:34 am

“Mama – Google.com – you know how it works.”

Translation: “I got nothin’.”

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
11:34 am

Mama – Just because you say so doesn’t make it so – good try. You wanted the TRUTH – do what I did – look it up.

Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom

January 28th, 2013
11:34 am

I love being Soutehrn but I cannot wait until I can leave this place and get back to land of weirdos and no state taxes. You guessed it, Florida! Where all the crazy people from this side of the Missisippi go to it seems.

TaxPayer

January 28th, 2013
11:35 am

Y’all done hurt morality’s fee fees. Y’all gotta quit sharing facts with that boy. His system can only digest unskewed polling data.

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 28th, 2013
11:35 am

heck..I don’t even know what that means?

Not a shocker.

Gator Joe

January 28th, 2013
11:35 am

Jay,
It’s not helpful to confront right wingers with the truth in large doses as you do daily. It’s like taking individuals who choose to live their entire lives in a cave facing the rear of the cave (i.e. watch Fox, listing to Limbaugh), and suddenly forcing them out into a bright sunny day.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 28th, 2013
11:37 am

“Morality” — “Mama – Just because you say so doesn’t make it so – good try.”

Yes. Jusr because you said so doesn’t make it so. Good try.

“You wanted the TRUTH – do what I did – look it up.”

You claim to *have* the truth.. So post it.

Or else admit you can’t.

Gator Joe

January 28th, 2013
11:37 am

Sorry for the typo should read “listening to Limbaugh”.

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
11:38 am

Kcin – you never had nothing – and on top of that you are to lazy to get something. I looked it UP. I’m not in charge of educating you – that would be asking way to much.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 28th, 2013
11:40 am

“Morality” — ” I looked it UP.”

i think you *made* it up. So post your evidence and prove me wrong.

“I’m not in charge of educating you”

And we’re not in charge of proving or disproving the crap you make up.

Post your evidence or simply admit that you haven’t got any. It’s quite easy.

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
11:40 am

Mama _ I can and you can – I refuse to be your “enabler”. Prove I am wrong!

the cat

January 28th, 2013
11:40 am

to too two
they’re their there
who’s whose

geesh, you are keeping up, Not

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 28th, 2013
11:41 am

1: We love the FREEDOM of our cars.

NASCAR. Wooo Hoo.

2: We love the FREEDOM of our guns.

Lets shoot each other. Whoo Hoo

3: We love the FREEDOM of our God

As long as its a Christian God.

4: We love the FREEDOM of less government

And our infrastructure which is falling apart.

5: We love the FREEDOM of being able to keep more of our money.

And spend it on things like guns. Woo Hoo.

Happiness is the South in your rear view mirror. I cant wait to get away from you rednecks.

To the rest of the country the South is a joke. They pay to keep you up with their taxes.

And you dont even appreciate it.

Heck the South wouldn’t even have electricity without the Federal Government.

Secede and the South would be a third world theocracy in 6 months.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 28th, 2013
11:43 am

“Morality” — “Mama _ I can and you can – I refuse to be your “enabler”

You refuse to prove your claims. Not a problem. I’ll just call you a liar, then.

“Prove I am wrong!”

You lied about having evidence. Let’s see *you* prove *me* wrong.

DannyX

January 28th, 2013
11:43 am

“But I am saddened about the fact that, as the old joke goes, the only problem with Atlanta is that it’s in Georgia.”

Very true, Welcome. Those cities in Texas that are still growing at a good pace are not considered to be enemies of the state. The state actually cooperates with them and doesn’t treat the cities like cash cows.

Texas has done the exact opposite of Georgia and invested tons of money in their big cities to fund transportation improvements. Texas cities have passed special sales tax to fund needed improvements also. Atlanta has too, 1% MARTA tax, the rest of the metro area sits in horrible traffic not willing to pitch in, meanwhile the state government siphons off billions of dollars in gas tax revenue.

Funny how the suburbs throw a fit when Fulton or DeKalb redistribute tax dollars but are completely silent when the state does it. Especially since the state actually redistributes more.

TaxPayer

January 28th, 2013
11:45 am

Cheesy at 11:41,

You nailed it.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

January 28th, 2013
11:47 am

poor cheezer
can’t stand it that the South is the growth of America

Moving South: New data shows Southern region attracting most newcomers
Census data shows the South as the most popular destination.
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. Not as many people are moving between states as they were in earlier decades, but those who do move are choosing to move to the South.

In fact, according to new Census Bureau data released this week, the Southern region of the United States* is the only one to show a net gain in migration over the last five years, growing at the expense of states in the Northeast, Midwest and even the West.

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
11:47 am

Mama – YOU prove it if you can……. don’t see anyone moving to NYC, Bawston or Philly BECAUSE of their high taxes, crime rate, over regulation or their high cost of living. Don’t see these as a reason to MOVE to some place…. go ahead and MOVE there if you find these attractive. YOUR lame argument is ridiculous.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 28th, 2013
11:48 am

Uncle Samantha: “hey OCCUPY / don’t you love OBAMA”

Me, love Obama? Ha!

You obviously don’t read my posts very carefully, if you have any doubts on that matter.

Mick

January 28th, 2013
11:50 am

recon

Nice…going after kerry, where’s your silver star? Oh yeah, thats right, only you’ve earned the right to speak your mind, which most of us ignore anyways…

Oppressed Suth'ner

January 28th, 2013
11:50 am

“Of course thos suburban white folks may have to sit next to some of the common folks on Marta trains.”

No, they’re more likely to be robbed and murdered in the stations before they ever get on the Marta train.

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
11:50 am

Cheese Wizz – Let me know when you are gone so we can celebrate!

dbm

January 28th, 2013
11:51 am

Now, if we had laissez-faire capitalism, we would have businessmen looking to profit from the lack of transportation rather than politicians looking to win the next election, and they would have solved the problem long ago.

We also wouldn’t have to worry about being forced to subsidize the very profitable Falcons.

Health care is more complicated, but again a system dominated by government isn’t working.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 28th, 2013
11:52 am

Georgia’s problems = But…but…but…Obama!

Too funny!

TBone

January 28th, 2013
11:52 am

Get used to collapsing infrastructure because the present ruling regime will have its retribution on the red states, of which Georgia is obviously one, for the election results in November. This is a petty bunch of politicians, not a leader in the bunch.

Oppressed Suth'ner

January 28th, 2013
11:53 am

Cheesey – don’t let the door hit you in the rear end on the way out. The south used to be great until all you creepy yankees moved down here. Yankee go home.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 28th, 2013
11:53 am

“Morality” — “Mama – YOU prove it if you can…”

I’ve got nothing to prove, as I didn’t make any assertions about why people were moving. YOU did. So prove your claims now.

“. don’t see anyone moving to NYC, Bawston or Philly BECAUSE of their high taxes, crime rate, over regulation or their high cost of living.”

Of course. And I made no claim that people *were* doing that. (laughing, pointing) :D

“Don’t see these as a reason to MOVE to some place….”

Of course. And I didn’t claim that they *were.* (giggling) :D

“go ahead and MOVE there if you find these attractive. YOUR lame argument is ridiculous.”

I LOVE how clueless you are, “Morality.” I didn’t say *why* people were moving, or to where. I simply said that *your* claim didn’t have any evidence to back it up. And predictably, when asked for evidence, you turned coward because you haven’t GOT any evidence to back yourself up. :D

For someone who makes all sorts of grandiose claims about his intelligence and education, you certainly don’t seem to understand that saying ‘I think you’re wrong about that’ is not the same thing as saying ‘the opposite of your claim must be true.’ :D

My argument? My argument is, quite simply, that your earlier claim about *why* people were leaving was incorrect. And despite your claims to the contrary, we still haven’t seen any evidence supporting what you say.

So get to work, “Morality.” Get that big, throbbing intellect in gear and fetch us some evidence.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

January 28th, 2013
11:53 am

occupy

didn’t mean it literally………….. thought you might recognize the HYPOCRISY of both parties sticking WALL STREETERS into TREASURY to maintain and preserve the system of screwing main street

The other half of your brain.

January 28th, 2013
11:53 am

DannyX

January 28th, 2013
11:43 am

“But I am saddened about the fact that, as the old joke goes, the only problem with Atlanta is that it’s in Georgia.”

Very true, Welcome. Those cities in Texas that are still growing at a good pace are not considered to be enemies of the state. The state actually cooperates with them and doesn’t treat the cities like cash cows.

Texas has done the exact opposite of Georgia and invested tons of money in their big cities to fund transportation improvements. Texas cities have passed special sales tax to fund needed improvements also. Atlanta has too, 1% MARTA tax, the rest of the metro area sits in horrible traffic not willing to pitch in, meanwhile the state government siphons off billions of dollars in gas tax revenue.

Funny how the suburbs throw a fit when Fulton or DeKalb redistribute tax dollars but are completely silent when the state does it. Especially since the state actually redistributes more.

Danny, I could be wrong but when Texas Gov Perry was running for President didn’t the left vilify him about Texas only growing jobs like McDonalds.

Man, you guys want it both ways, that was funny.

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
11:53 am

Occupy – TRUE – I’m not here 24/7 so fill me in on your opinion of Prez Obama. Is he to con/lib for you? I mean are you LEFT of Obama – you may be under estimating his true beliefs.

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 28th, 2013
11:56 am

poor cheezer
can’t stand it that the South is the growth of America

Thats because companies know they can move here and pay you hillbillies practically nothing.

With no benefits to boot.

And you will just smile back at them with what teeth you have and thank them.

Thats the way they like it.

The other half of your brain.

January 28th, 2013
11:57 am

Mick

January 28th, 2013
11:50 am

recon

Nice…going after kerry, where’s your silver star? Oh yeah, thats right, only you’ve earned the right to speak your mind, which most of us ignore anyways…

Mickey, I don’t think it was Recon who said that he killed Women & Children while in Vietnam. Just sayin.

Oppressed Suth'ner

January 28th, 2013
11:57 am

DannyX – allow me to correct your typo. The only problem with Georgia is that Atlanta is in it.

td

January 28th, 2013
11:58 am

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 28th, 2013
11:41 am

Please refresh our memories about the number of people that retire to the north? Also, please show us the migration patterns where people are bailing on the south to move up north?

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
11:59 am

Mama – YOU are the one that is claiming that I am wrong about the polls – I have seen ZERO from you to back that accusation up – I think YOU looked it up and aren’t willing to say you were WRONG. I don’t call someone a liar unless I can prove it – so quit running your mouth and PROVE IT!

St Simons - aboriginal

January 28th, 2013
12:00 pm

you’d think after 30 yrs of unregulated supplyside jaysus trickle down,
cons would have picked up on –
Buy (invest, spend) Low (now, duh)- Sell (divest, cut) High (not now, duh)

but nooooo. I mean, how many times do they have to be wrong?
hey, on the other hand,
I see where that no-gene-for-shame/irony might come in handy…
win-ning!

Oppressed Suth'ner

January 28th, 2013
12:00 pm

Cheesy – all of us “hillbillies” would be delighted if you’d remove your arrogant buttocks back up north or west or whatever crappy place you came from. We surely don’t want or need you here.

moonbat betty

January 28th, 2013
12:00 pm

What a bunch of hats of ass from the north we have in here today.

stands for decibels

January 28th, 2013
12:01 pm

Grandfathered, full-auto SHEETZ.

The other half of your brain.

January 28th, 2013
12:01 pm

If there are people on here that don’t like the South then get the F*CK OUT. Nobody is making you stay and don’t let the door hit you in the ASS on the way out.

What a bunch of DYCK heads.

td

January 28th, 2013
12:02 pm

Posted this earlier but for some reason none of you progressives even made a comment on an idea that one would think you would wholeheartedly support. One wonders why?

Here is a nice progressive idea that would solve the transportation problem and it is environmentally friendly.

1: No Semi allowed within 60 miles of Atlanta during the morning of the afternoon rush hour.

2: Tax all businesses, whose working must travel on our roads during rush hour, for not having a plan implemented where at least 25% of their work force is not teleworking or you could give tax credits to businesses that have more then 25% of their work forces teleworking.

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
12:02 pm

Cheese Wizz – WHY did you come HERE and WHY are you STILL here? You poor miserable soul.

moonbat betty

January 28th, 2013
12:02 pm

oh nooooos!!!

Someone put sugar in the cheezer’s tea!

Thomas

January 28th, 2013
12:03 pm

“Roll there eyes”- interesting as business and folks continue to move to Atlanta/Georgia. Maybe folks are not rolling their eyes at Atlanta but at the person with whom they are speaking- see Michelle O with Boehner

We finally have a mayor that is not making weekly headlines due to corrupt practices- the same cannot be said of other major cities.

I have to laugh at Atlantans who feel compelled to be apologists as if Atlantans are travel agents and Atlanta is a hotel that must make the carpetbaggers fleeing “better places” to find a job and place to live.

If we only had a nationally acclaimed newspaper….

Logical Dude

January 28th, 2013
12:04 pm

Quoting Jay: state leaders solution “was to pass a convoluted, complex approach that tried to dump the state’s responsibility for funding transportation onto local voters and local officials.” “Which they knew would fail” (LD edits)

And of course, they could pass the blame and say “see? SEE? nobody wants to solve the problem by paying for it!”

“state leaders still do not dare to do what they know is necessary. They have no “Plan B.” They do not lead, they follow, and they do so timidly.”

I’m still not sure who they are actually following here. they are definitely not following any leader or plan that actually helps the state move forward.

curious

January 28th, 2013
12:05 pm

td
“There are several things you need to understand about the south and they are NOT going to change:

1: We love the FREEDOM of our cars.
2: We love the FREEDOM of our guns.
3: We love the FREEDOM of our God
4: We love the FREEDOM of less government
5: We love the FREEDOM of being able to keep more of our money.”

Isn’t this the position of the Taliban?

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
12:05 pm

Think I will go heat up some of my Yankee friend’s turkey tofu …. uhhhhh – maybe not.

Oppressed Suth'ner

January 28th, 2013
12:08 pm

Curious – I doubt that your rank and file Taliban members have cars, government or money. In other words, they are donkey-riding, anarchist, women hating, impoverished puppets

The other half of your brain.

January 28th, 2013
12:08 pm

Isn’t this the position of the Taliban?

Curious, Are you a rocket scientist or a brain surgeon?

DannyX

January 28th, 2013
12:08 pm

Per capita GDP rank

Massachusetts- 6
New York- 7
California- 12
Texas- 24
Pennsylvania- 25

North Carolina- 31
Georgia- 35
Florida- 40
Tennessee- 41
Alabama- 46
South Carolina- 48
Mississippi- 51

Oh yea, the south is doing great!!! (Well, the “liberal” states are.)

GT

January 28th, 2013
12:09 pm

One of the problems with the right is they build huge political movements on these thin truths, or outright lies, and then try to mask it in the Bible or the flag, getting innocent bystanders involved in their sins. They claim their lack of appetite for the gay causes is the Bible tells them these guys are sinners. Never mind it says we all are sinners and somewhere in Matthews 5 are verses about lust rocking all our boats. They used that same line of logic for slavery until it stunk so bad they had to give it a rest.

When you have sheep being lead by sinners the sheep not only have their own sins to tend with they now have picked up the bad habits of the leader and even worse don’t realize they are living a lie. When you keep the church separate from politics and government you can survive the human error of politics by letting the offending entity take the hit. When you mix em all up they all go down the toilet together. In this case it is more the state of Georgia’s problem than the entire country, which will be there to bail these hard headed fools out once again like a big corporate bail out they pretend they are against. There is no greater welfare state than the Peach State and it is no one’s fault but their own.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 28th, 2013
12:11 pm

Morality? “Occupy – TRUE – I’m not here 24/7 so fill me in on your opinion of Prez Obama. Is he to con/lib for you? I mean are you LEFT of Obama – you may be under estimating his true beliefs.”

I think Obama is a Democrat of the Robert Rubin/pro-Wall Street stripe. He takes it as a given that globalization and financialization of the economy are entirely irreversible and unalterable processes, and that therefore the best one can hope for is to free them up (lining the pockets of your buddies in high finance in the process) and harness their capacities for growth, at which point one can then see what is left for a few modest, market-based social programs.

As the financial crisis showed, this is a bust. It’s intellectually bankrupt.

But the fact that Obama continues to adhere to this ideology is evidenced by his appointing Rubinites like Tim Geithner and Larry Summers, and now Jack Lew, to his economic team, marginalizing voices who offered some critical views like Paul Volcker.

But of course, what does anyone expect from someone who’s a product of the core of the Democratic party, which is just like its social democratic counterparts around the world such as labour in UK and the European social democracies in going whole hog for this ideology of markets and financial deregulation. Barack Obama is what you get.

The other half of your brain.

January 28th, 2013
12:11 pm

Dannyxxx, So now your making Texas a liberal state? What else do you libs want to change?

Morality?

January 28th, 2013
12:12 pm

Curious Isn’t that the Taliban” – NOT REALLY – Taliban drives camels (not cars), are OBSESSED with their guns and their “god”, love gub’ment as long as they are in charge and don’t have any money which is the primary reason they are MAD to start with.

Oppressed Suth'ner

January 28th, 2013
12:12 pm

Well DannyX, we’d be doing better but the gub-ment steals all of our money and gives it to the folks sitting on their public housing front porches, watching the drug deals going down, and waiting for their next gub-ment check.

DannyX

January 28th, 2013
12:12 pm

“Mississippi- 51″

Oppressed Suth’ner, this is Georgia without Atlanta.

DannyX

January 28th, 2013
12:14 pm

“Dannyxxx, So now your making Texas a liberal state?”

Good God! What a hysterical overreaction!

Recon 0311 2533

January 28th, 2013
12:14 pm

Mick,

You’ve never done a good job of ignoring me but other than replying when you often can’t ignore me, I ignore you. BTW…a significant number up and down the chain of swift boat command that’s is far too many to ignore say his Silver Star was not deserved nor his Purple Hearts. Now if you worship John Kerry as a hero you go right ahead and do. I couldn’t care less.

indigo

January 28th, 2013
12:15 pm

the other half – 11:21

Bush put these cuts in.

Obama is trying to repeal them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/18/tax-cuts-rich_n_848933.html

Getting your information about Obama from Rush and the NRA is really not the smartest thing to do. Duh

The other half of your brain.

January 28th, 2013
12:16 pm

When you have sheep being lead by sinners the sheep not only have their own sins

GT, I’m sure glad Clinton, Weiner, Nagin, Edwards and dozens more were Saints in your goofy book.

Oppressed Suth'ner

January 28th, 2013
12:17 pm

DannyX – nonsense. If Georgia didn’t have to endure the crooked politics and waste of Atlanta, we would be in an economic upward trend.

td

January 28th, 2013
12:17 pm

DannyX

January 28th, 2013
12:08 pm

1: And these numbers mean what?

2: Where is the link to support your claims?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 28th, 2013
12:18 pm

all of us “hillbillies” would be delighted if you’d remove your arrogant buttocks back up north or west or whatever crappy place you came from.

Not me.

I am happy to have diverse opinions living in this state.

BTW, I was born on Peachtree St., sport

indigo

January 28th, 2013
12:20 pm

Morality – 11:01 “I am a USA LOYALIST”

Actually, you are a simple tool who Rush, the NRA and Republican politicians take full advantage of.

The other half of your brain.

January 28th, 2013
12:20 pm

Indigo, It seems to me that Obama gave Billions to large companies and Wall street, Us taxpayers lost 12 Billion just to GM alone, then another 500 Million to Solyndra. It must feel really good to have selective memory.

You still cashed the 2 checks, didn’t you.

Oppressed Suth'ner

January 28th, 2013
12:22 pm

If by “diverse opinions” you mean always whining about how backwards southern people are, and how wonderful northerners and westerners are, then I hope you get to read all the whining yankee garbage you desire. I prefer to read comments that offer something positive and meaningful, rather than complaining about how bad we southerners are.

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 28th, 2013
12:23 pm

Per capita GDP rank

Massachusetts- 6
New York- 7
California- 12
Texas- 24
Pennsylvania- 25

North Carolina- 31
Georgia- 35
Florida- 40
Tennessee- 41
Alabama- 46
South Carolina- 48
Mississippi- 51

Oh yea, the south is doing great!!! (Well, the “liberal” states are.)

Well said Danny.

Most of these rednecks who have never even been out of the South dont realize there is a great big world out there.

America is a great country. Except for the South.

Id love to see the South secede. Without Federal Tax dollars flowing into the South it would go under pretty quick.

You’d basically have another Afghanistan here.

The other half of your brain.

January 28th, 2013
12:24 pm

Not me.

I am happy to have diverse opinions living in this state.

WOW! Judging from some of your past posts That surprises me.

Taxi Smith

January 28th, 2013
12:24 pm

Sonny Perdue set Georgia twenty years back when he extended the Ga. 400 toll. We don’t trust anyone now. And why should we??

DannyX

January 28th, 2013
12:25 pm

“DannyX – nonsense. If Georgia didn’t have to endure the crooked politics and waste of Atlanta, we would be in an economic upward trend.”

LOL! You want crooked politics???? How about Nathan Deal, Sonny Perdue, Linda Schrenko, Glenn Richardson, John Oxendine, Beth Merkleson, Don Balfour, Ralph Reed, Chip Rogers, Tom Graves, and John Ralston!!!

Upward trend! LOL!

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 28th, 2013
12:26 pm

If Georgia didn’t have to endure the crooked politics and waste of Atlanta, we would be in an economic upward trend.

LOL