With ‘Taxby’ gone, Tea Party tacks new RINO hide to wall

I wonder if he’s the fall guy.

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Great- now we have to endure a primary bloodbath. As if the lemmings weren’t already bad enough, now they have an open primary without Saxby. That’s gonna be crazy!

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That was vague. What I meant is maybe he’s got a good pay out, (campaign fund), to live from along with a sweet “power job” and as such he gets to be the guy who negotiates, cuts the deal that needs to be cut and then takes all the blame.

The Republicans have shown that they are easily lied too and will believe ANYTHING as long as it comes from talk radio or FOX. So once the things are done that we HAVE to have done to fix our economy, Rush and his boys along with FOX start blaming it all on Taxby to clear the other guys “name” with the tea party idiots.

Were it any other group I would say it couldn’t happen, but with this crop of FOXBOTS? It’s a cakewalk. Expect one or two other sacrificial lambs Jay. Look for other states like Georgia where there isn’t a snowballs chance in hell of a Democrat being able to take the seat. Look for another State where they would gladly elect a thief who ran from Congressional Ethics charges like here in Georgia.

Time will prove me right. They’ve backed themselves into an unwinnable corner and this is how they will attempt to get out of it.

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As i stated on the earlier thread…………

Now , the Republican primary , as i see it will be Paul Broun vs. Tom Price.

I see maybe Jason Carter being one of the Democrats running for the Senate seat, it will be interesting.

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As far as Gingrich , doesnt he live in Washington exclusively?

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Oh and as far as a Democratic candidate? Kasim Reed is probably a front runner, but Georgia democrats showed they won’t vote for a black man when they rejected the awesome candidate for Governor, Thurbert Baker for that total unelectable ass clown, Roy Barnes.

(you need to lighten up on the awesome term {you know what}hat Jay. It is the PERFECT descriptor for Roy Barnes………. )

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Well, now we can be rid of this RINO and put in somebody that will keep taxes low and cut this big spending.

By “big spending” I mean any guvmint spending that goes to help people I don’t like. It ain’t big spending if it helps me and mine.

Have a good lunch everybody, or dinner as we call it. Things is looking up!

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I look forward to Paul Broun riding into small towns across Georgia on his T-Rex. A true Christian soldier if ever there was one. Tom Price’s best chance would be to fully utilize technology–a megaphone to amplify his whiney little voice. It will be an epic battle well worth the cost of a bag of popcorn.

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The demographics of the state may be changing, but they haven’t quite changed enough. The political fortunes of Democrats in general are improving, but they haven’t improved quite enough in Georgia. And the party infrastructure in much of the state is abysmal.

Agree on the last part, but that’s fixable. Not so sure about the first two; remember that an energized African American votership helped get Obama 47% in 2008. in 2014, with a less-abysmal GA democratic organization, it could be real competitive.

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I look forward to Paul Broun riding into small towns across Georgia on his T-Rex.

Reposted just so I can acknowledge the debt for when I steal it.

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“No doubt, Georgia will pick the worst of all possible choices.”

Sadly….

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Jay, when I started visiting your blog, what, over four years ago now, you were not the partisan you are now. No smart ass remarks about the opposition, the whole blog was more civil in disagreement. I see/read now the hard left in you just like I have tacked more to the right and become more grumpy myself. If you can’t see that’s from Obama, you need to hang up the typewriter.

You are also in dreamland thinking about a Dem senator from Georgia. That thought is in the same bucket as changing the electroal college to be from districts. I didn’t weigh in on that piece, busy working, but I’m for it. I don’t expect to leave Georgia so my vote will contribute to the state college votes going to a Conservative. However, living in Clayton County I constantly feel disenfranchised with Scott not worth the powder to blow him up. I’m sure in other states millions fell the same as to the way their state goes in POTUS elections.

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Fred ™

January 25th, 2013
11:35 am

That was vague. What I meant is maybe he’s got a good pay out, (campaign fund), to live from along with a sweet “power job” and as such he gets to be the guy who negotiates, cuts the deal that needs to be cut and then takes all the blame.

Sort of like Obama’s campaign committee converting to a 501(c)3 and giving cushy jobs to Axelrod, et al?

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As for his excuse for bowing out, I think Saxby should blame it on his knee and use the same one that allowed him to dodge the Vietnam War.

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“His admission that maybe, just maybe, the Republicans would have to accept higher taxes as a necessary evil made him unacceptable in their eyes, guaranteeing a bitter primary fight.”

Of course, a few of us here are still waiting on a column from you addressing the “necessary evil” of substantial spending cuts. I don’t recall ever seeing one. Perhaps you deem them unnecessary (like apparently Obama does – as evidenced by his “lip service” to the idea sans any credible in writing).

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I thought the law about keepin the caampaign fund was chaged a few years ago. Don’t believe no you can just put it in your ersonel account.

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Why don’t the Democrats go ahead and nominate Cynthia McKinney for the seat? She is the perfect candidate – very representative of the D Party in Georgia today.

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“Larry, the Constitution merely requires that a senator be a resident of his or her state at the time of the election. The election is in 2014, so that’s no obstacle to Gingrich.”

I half suspect you are secretly rooting for Gingrich’s election, Jay. That should prove to be a veritable goldmine for GOP-bashing columns – what, you’d get maybe 100 columns a year out of him?

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Chip Rogers. He’ll advocate walking away from our debts. problem solved.

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You are also in dreamland thinking about a Dem senator from Georgia.

No he is not. I will say it again–an energized Democratic base gave Obama 47% of the vote in 2008. Do you really think that GA in 2014 will have become LESS inclined, demographically, to support a Democratic candidate, statewide, if that candidate has a coherent message and campaign team?

(And yes, I recognize that’s a big ol’ “if.”)

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She is the perfect candidate – very representative of the D Party

refresh my memory–why isn’t she a Congressman today? something about a primary.

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If the gop candidat is an extreme right winger e.g. talks about legitmate rapes – a blue dog or moderate democrat can win in Georgia

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Jay – Your boy obammy just got the smack down for his non-recess appointments and all you can come up with is this mindless, bed-wetting liberal drivel? I thought you were better than that.

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While it’s stating the obvious, the biggest obstacle to a Democrat winning that Senate seat in 2014 is one of will.

It is a very high risk proposition, and this state isn’t exactly filled to the gills with balls-to-the-wall Dems that have the added benefit of statewide recognition.

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Why don’t the Democrats go ahead and nominate Cynthia McKinney for the seat? She is the perfect candidate – very representative of the D Party in Georgia today.

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Is she the same Congresswoman that exposed George W. Bush and the weapons of mass destruction?

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If the gop candidat is an extreme right winger e.g. talks about legitmate rapes

Guarantee you they’ll all write on the palm of their hand, “do not mention RAPE”, whilst campaigning.

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your campaign promise is “get more beatdowns from Nancy Pelosi.”

I am not totally sure I get the ref, but boy, do I wish that Cynthia had actually *said* that.

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‘you’d get maybe 100 columns a year out of him?’ (Newt)
Shoot, you could get 365 columns a year out of him, more in a leap year.

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reb

We are in a particularly vicious cycle of politics whereby many viewed bush as being installed by the supreme court and the dems begrudgingly accepting it without threats of 2nd amendment solutions or tea party type opposition. Bush panned out to be one of the worst ever, just as many feared and predicted. Obama gets elected and its payback time for repubs who want to vent and hate on the first african american president. Obama’s intellect and pragmatism is far and above that of bush’s who was basically a yes man for cheney’s hard right ideology. to bush’s credit, after about the sixth year of cheney leading, he cut it off and went his own way which was too little and too late.
After this 4 years is up, maybe, just maybe, there will be someone out there that can unite and bridge the gap. Even though I’m an optimist, I have no illusions that will be a very long shot…

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stands – Obama’s Georgia supporters are mostly in the metro area. The others who voted for him are low information voters who will have awakened and have a bad case of buyer’s remorse by the mid-term, much less the next presidential.

Obama’s true colors came out in the inaugural address. He now faces a supreme court case on over reaching his authority – the labor board appointment. He is starting to be reined in. He will however continue the extreme liberal path until the mid-term where Repubs will take the senate.

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WHAT??? How dare they??? Our great and brilliant leader should be able to do whatever he wants to get things done in Washington – the Constitution be damned! I can’t stand these “activist” courts:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/25/federal-court-obama-broke-law-recess-appointments/

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Bookman, your Dem list has one glaring ommission: Stacey Abrams.

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If all you liberals hate Georgia as you say…Delta is ready to fly you back to your blue state now!

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If the Republican Party is unchanged when Saxby’s replacement runs for this office, you may be sure the new candidate will be somewhat to the right of Genghis Khan. You may also be certain that loyal electorate tools will give full support to the neanderthal candidate.

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Saxby will do more good for the state in the next two years with the special interest lobbies off his neck than any senator we have had since Nun. There is a movement for term limits that I think may cut in by the end of Saxby’s term anyway.

How about bringing Roy Barnes out of mothballs? Remember Johnny had less a track record of winning than Roy when he finally got in, or maybe Pierre Howard or Cathy Cox who should have been governor in the first place. I think there is a window that will be wider in two years if Saxby stands up to the wing nuts like I am thinking he will. If Saxby handles himself well he could become the next governor. We need to root out the nasty political machine that has run this state and local congressman and replace it with the character we are electing for senate now days. This is a great opportunity the Tea Party is a very disorganized bunch.

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A true credit to his community as a Conservative Senator but had to work in a Liberal “buy one get one free” Senate!

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If all you liberals hate Georgia as you say…Delta is ready to fly you back to your blue state now!

If we left the IQ level around here would drop about 50 points.

You would all end up shooting each other withing 30 days.

Its sort of a charity thing sticking around to make sure you dont go crazy.

Heck the South wouldn’t even have electricity without Northern federal dollars.

If Georgia seceded it would be a third world country inside of 6 months.

You see…. Georgia is a moocher red state that depends on Federal money to keep it afloat.

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Saxby is doing the right thing. I suspect he won’t be the last pragmatic GOP who decides he doesn’t want any part of what GOP does, or may stand for..

Too bad for you libs that you can’t squeeze another BO sheep into that position. Sure would be great to have less sheep on both sides than pragmatists..

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real.

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But, of course. What else could it possibly be but racism (even though one of the judges is black and another is part black, part Hispanic and part Irish and a third is from Trinidad) ?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/427974/20130125/american-idol-racism-row-9-black-former.htm

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Looking forward to the idiocy of the repub primaries in GA. It’ll be a contest to see who can be the most bass ackwards.

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Johnny you ma..:”If you can’t see that’s from Obama, you need to hang up the typewriter.”

Heehee, where to start? Now Obama is responsible for the thoughts in Johnny’s and Jay’s heads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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No coincidence that Georgia tends to rank in the 40-50th range among states for most issues now. But go ahead and blame Obama, not the uber conservative good ole boy network here.

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Nobody showed up for the abortion march in Washington.

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Newt is more of a hit and run guy. Signing up for a six year gig in the sernate much to disciplined for a “free” thinker like the Newster. Free of anything factual, that is. And full of cowardace.

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No Newt? What’s the point of watching then?

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As I have always said….extremism in either party is not good! Hail to us independents!

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Maybe we can get Senator Hank Johnson to change parties, otherwise we are going to lose Guam!

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mbtc, well Newt first has to decide if he could sell some books and use the campaign to make money to line his pockets. Being a senator helps but its just not the same big bucks you can make fleecing the extreme right cons with Fox appearances, books and of course, if you go full Beck, being a gold spokesperson.

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Jay — “Newt’s spokesman now saying he will NOT be candidate.”

Callista decided that she didn’t like the proles criticizing Newt’s jewelry purchases for her.

Some kinda thing as with Mrs. Romney; our patricians don’t like it when “you people” presume to question them.

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Please run Newt the left will contribute to your war crest! Newt has never won a statewide general election and has had to move around Georgia to capture the right light ,even as speaker, to win reelection to the congress.

The Democratics need to get excited about this. Obama needs to bring his machines and ground people to Georgia. The right is bound to run a weak character candidate it is all they have. This could be the crack we need for the south to finally join the union instead of fighting it.

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This is Saxby’s reward for forsaking partinship and attempting to be a legislator.

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When i hear or read anything about Newtie, all I can think of is: “Yeah but that alternative Civil War History trilogy he co-wrote was AWESOME.”

I wonder why he doesn’t do more writing?

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Don’t think there’s a snowball’s chance in Hell that I’ll ever see a Democratic Senator from Georgia.
The only thing that bothers me about Saxby is the prospect of something worse, and that’s exactly what I expect. Most Georgia voters have proven themselves to be political morons.

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Obama’s Georgia supporters are mostly in the metro area. The others who voted for him are low information voters who will have awakened and have a bad case of buyer’s remorse by the mid-term, much less the next presidential.

Where do you pull this stuff, JReb?

I mean, if you had actual election or polling results to back any of this up I might be inclined to listen, but it’s pure conjecture, and a whole lot of nasty, judgmental crap hurled at your fellow residents. I mean, “low information?” If you really want to get into a pissing match on whose constituents are more clueless, I suggest you look elsewhere.

and as for your dismissive “mostly in the metro area,” erm, that’s where most of GA lives. The nation, the world, is becoming more urbanized, not less.

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Vet

January 25th, 2013
12:43 pm

Why don’t you name calling liberals get Jane Fonda but we know you love Cynthia Mckinnney more!
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Wow, talk about stupid……………

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Fred — “I wonder why he doesn’t do more writing?”

Because he won’t make any money from it unless cons start doing more *reading.*

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Because he won’t make any money from it unless cons start doing more *reading.*

But those books had nothing to do with today’s politics, they were based on actual events from the Civil War.

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Well, it’s real sad the average member handicap at Congressional Country Club will go up by a couple points after Saxby leaves. It would go up more than that if it wasn’t for the bum knee that kept Saxby from being a rootin’-tootin’ fighting soldier in the Vietnam war. Makes it harder to turn on the backswing, you know.

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If anyone could pull off a win for the Democrats in Georgia, it would be Reed.

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Running off a two term Senator because he is open to bipartisan solutions?

Death spiral.

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Oscar

January 25th, 2013
12:06 pm

” – a blue dog or moderate democrat can win in Georgia”

No such animal exist in Georgia any longer. Barrow only acts like a Blue dog to get elected in rural Georgia.

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And the debates! The debates could become classics:

Catholic organizations have for decades fought to change federal and state laws that fail to protect “unborn persons,” and Catholic Health’s lawyers in this case had the chance to set precedent bolstering anti-abortion legal arguments. Instead, they are arguing state law protects doctors from liability concerning unborn fetuses on grounds that those fetuses are not persons with legal rights.

Let’s start with you Mr. Broun, Are the Catholics correct in ther claim that the unborn fetus is not a person?

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Fred, I tried all afternnon yesterday to engage in a civil discussion with Stands. All he would do was call me a liar. He wouldn’t respond to my request to show me where I lied. 3 or 4 times I asked that he do so

DIA, what are you talking about? Not a snarky question; I’m unclear on what discussion you had in mind.

Honestly, I’ve found you to be one of the more honest, reasonable conservatives posting here, and I can’t imagine why I would’ve accused you of outright lying, and if I had, I’m pretty sure I’d remember doing it.

I just had a look in that “Foxhole” thread, and I think you might have me confused with “Keep Up the Good Fight,” a poster with whom you were exchanging some heated words.

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“And you won’t. This talk of spending cuts from the left is complete BS. They will whine like little fat children begging for a cookie every time somebody suggests cutting money for anything they care about (see Jindal post from yesterday). They won’t accept cuts to anything but the military. PERIOD.”

That seems to be the case, RB. I also have yet to see a column from Jay on wasteful and fraudulent government spending. You know, when something isn’t really working at some point you have to say “Maybe we should try a different approach”. All of the money the federal government has spent to help the disadvantaged in our inner cities doesn’t seem to have done much. Maybe money per se isn’t the solution. Maybe it’s something else. Maybe those in gubmint should listen to people like Bill Cosby and figure out how it might apply his common sense and wise counsel to once and for all help people out of the decades old rut they are in. But I am not at all convinced Democrats want to do anything more than throw money at people.

At one time, buying votes was considered illegal. I guess it all depends on what the definition if “is” is.

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vinny

January 25th, 2013
12:52 pm

Fred – are you suffering from rectal-cranial inversion? Just cause your boy barry got his hand slapped, you libs always come after the messenger. It’s pure Alinsky style.

Your just a good little bed-wetting libby, aren’t you?
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More stupidity. Wow. Going through some SERIOUS Neal withdrawals aren’t you?

Well if you ever have an original thought or something on subject I’ll respond but other than that? You post drivel and nothing of relevance.

You aren’t even bright enough to know an independent from a “libby.” That’s probably why you LOST the election.

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“State Sen. Jason Carter of Decatur has a bright future, but youth and relative inexperience would make victory difficult. And while Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed is probably the party’s best hope in a statewide race, it would be a big political risk even for him.”

That right there is hialrious. For Democrats, the name Carter is synonymous to the name Bush for the Republicans = kiss of death. Carter would not carry more than 30% of the general vote. Reed “I just love me some TSPLOST” has about much chance of Roy Barnes.

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spinning the wheel of 2014 anticipation….a waste of time

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The party of stupid will say the stupidest things and try to out crazy each other.

It will be fun to watch and laugh.

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“Towncrier – do you want to put your ailing parents on private health insurance and scrap Medicare? Do you want to give up the social security you paid into? I think you should. Actions, not mere words my friend.”

If you’d put down your violin for just a little while, you might be able to see beyond your sheer emotionalism and think more rationally. But that’s up to you…

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JAY – you LOVE the TAX and SPEND Party. I asked you a question earlier that I got no response to so I shall ask again. If something is legal is it cheating? I mean it can be LEGAL yet immoral – such as the current abortion law – but is it cheating if it is within the legal rules? As for Chambliss – he started out with good intentions and slowly fell under the influence of the lobbyists as most in D.C. do. That is why we need TERM LIMITS for Congress.

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stands – please be reminded this is a “opinion” blog, but nonetheless here’s some numbers.

Georgia population 9.9 million.

10 county Atlanta area population 4.1 million

So, you are correct the Atlanta area has a larger share of the total population. However, you are assuming the majority in the metro would support a Dem candidate. All outside the metro won’t support a repub, but history shows the majority will.

No, we are a long ways away from the state being blue.

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@RB: http://wepartypatriots.com/wp/2012/09/21/study-u-s-spends-59-billion-on-social-welfare-92-billion-on-corporate-welfare/

STUDY: U.S. Spends $59 Billion on Social Welfare…$92 Billion on Corporate Welfare

So…and???

@Towncrier
well that was a poorly dodged non-answer to my question

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A perfect opportunity for the Party of Stupid to bring in another TEA-party Senator. Stick to your guns, boys!! Prepare for the Tyranny of Democratic elections and Government for The People and by The People.

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What I’d like to see is a Republican candidate who would come INTO the inner city and actuall CAMPAIGN and ASK for my vote, consider me as a CONSTITUENT, and state policies that I could AGREE WITH!! Sine the preponderance of the GOP tends to IGNORE voters like me…the question that I ask is this: Why should I consider them….since they persistently ignore ME??

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What I’d like to see is a Republican candidate who would come INTO the inner city and actually CAMPAIGN and ASK for my vote, consider me as a CONSTITUENT, and state policies that I could AGREE WITH!! Sine the preponderance of the GOP tends to IGNORE voters like me…the question that I ask is this: Why should I consider them….since they persistently ignore ME??

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vinny @ 12:09: Your boy obammy just got the smack down for his non-recess appointments……….

td@ 1:04: The DC court of appeals just laid a smack down on Obama about recess appointments.

Rush starts at noon. We have two “fine American right wingers” using the exact same phrase ona blog not even related to what they are saying, but they didn’t “hear” it somewhere else. Naw, they just thunk it up on their own exactly the same way.

What are the bets we hear the exact same thing by at least 2 more folks.

talk radio/FOXBOT puppets parroting or the same guy with an alt? Should we take a vote?

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“@Towncrier well that was a poorly dodged non-answer to my question”

Your “question[s]” were absurd and deserved no answer from me. If you don’t that the federal government is now spending money at a percentage of the GDP that is considerably above the historic norm – a good part of which is devoted to paying an almost 17T dollar debt, then I don’t know what to tell you. The only prayer Obama has of us getting out of this huge hole we are in without substantial spending cuts is if the economy recovers to a good state. If that does not happen, and cuts are not made, our situation will not be better. It will not even be the same. It will be worse – perhaps much so.

Here is a question for you: are you willing to take such a gamble?

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TaxPayer 12:58

Thanks for that. I just lifted it and used in in a Facebook reply where there’s all sort of ‘unborn babies are murdered’ posts. Told one poster that according to the Republican platform, she’d probably be prosecuted, given she used in vitro and the docs made a few embryos. Her reply was a ‘I didn’t know that..” See? There is hope. Give some conservatives real-world implications on the ideology and they can jettison their old views and progress!

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With his party in power he know that he is safe from any impeachment proceedings.

Wow. “Impeachment” has become as meaningless a phrase as “racism” and “sexual harassment.” It gets bandied back and forth so much like the little boy crying wolf that no one believes it when it’s real. Nowadays if the President jiggles and whizzes on the floor, some ass clown wants to take him to court or try to impeach him.

Just look what those idiots let out of the bag when they impeached Clinton for a triviality. Even Newt told them not to…………….

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For Democrats, the name Carter is synonymous to the name Bush for the Republicans = kiss of death

Is the name “Bush” is necessarily a bad one in the GOP? Isn’t Jeb Bush, at 59, still a potential national-level candidate?

As for Carter’s name, you might want to look outside your bubble–the former President is beloved by many, it’s mostly the hardcore right who still have a bone to pick with him.

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“Just look what those idiots let out of the bag when they impeached Clinton for a triviality. Even Newt told them not to..”

Since when is lying under oath to prevent someone else due process a triviality?? I mean it was serious enough that it got him disbarred or have you forgotten that.

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Fred ™

January 25th, 2013
1:25 pm

BTW: Did Rush use the word smack down today on his show? If he did then maybe I need to ask for my PHd from the EIB network of conservative thought.

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Don’t you just feel like an A$$ now?

I might if I knew what an “A$$” was? Waht is it? A high dollar ass?

Grow some balls and speak like a man. If you want to call me an ass, man up and call me an ass. Don’t try to hide it like a 9 year old little girl. Do you squat when you pee too?

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Steve, “The Cato Institute estimated that, in 2002, $93 billion were devoted to corporate welfare. This is about 5 percent of the federal budget.”

OK Steve. Ignoring that 2002 data is 10 years old, I’d be happy to cut every bit of this 5% of the budget, including all of it being given to the Solyndra’s of the world, IF you’ll tell me where we’re going to get the other $907B to get us out of deficit spending. In Steve’s world, what gets cut?

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BTW: Did Rush use the word smack down today on his show? If he did then maybe I need to ask for my PHd from the EIB network of conservative thought.

I don’t know, I can’t stand to listen to him. I just made an educated guess from the fact that within an hour of his show start time 2 people use the exact same phrasology on an issue not under discussion here.

Although, I think THAT would be a good little topic to take us into FNM. Jay could do a quick little piece on the obstructionism that had Oama trying that, and maybe explain how Clinton dealt with the same obstructionism.

(well take YA’LL, I’m headed off to play COD lol).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW8kPPwGHEI

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Oy vey, our blog self-proclaimed “constitutional scholars” talking about how Obama may not know the constitution. Were they concerned when the House Reps were forming a plan to withhold paychecks as part of their plans in direct violation of the constitution? These are the same “constitutional scholars” who also support waterboarding as “constitutional” Or told us how Obamacare was clearly unconstitutional in all aspects.

The question is still whether for example: The mere fact that the Senate has stated it is in a ‘pro forma’ session at which no business shall be conducted does not change the fact the Senate is unable to perform it constitutional role in the confirmation process

Some of you clownish wannabes really have no concept of the legal system in your black/white absolute worlds or how things move through court systems.

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Good riddance to bad trash.

Alas the swiftboating scumbag and never-served coward will simply be replaced by another gutless Republican feigning to be a conservative…

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Yep, you just proved without a shadow of a doubt that you feel like as A$$ now after I laid that SMACK DOWN up side your head.

Nope. Not in the least. The odds of you two using the exact same phraseology AND the same off topic subject without being the same person of hearing it elsewhere is astronomical.

Nice try though. I know thta after the SMACK DOWN you recieved in the last elections that you silly little guys have to try to lie and claim ANY victory you can to bolster your low self esteem…….

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“Yes, something that is technically legal can be cheating. Is legality the only basis for determining right and wrong? (And again, the legality of this particular approach is itself uncertain.)”

I agree, but apart from some widely accepted moral code, what other basis might that be? Only that is another topic altogether.

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Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 25th, 2013
1:42 pm

Obama going over Congress’s head and appointing people = bad.
Withholding Congress’s pay until they do their damn job = good

Pretty simple

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SPEAKING OF TACKING A HIDE TO THE WALL!

Appeals court rules Obama appointments invalid!!

What that pesky constitution again? King Obama must be very upset.

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JV “gutless and never served”. Refresh my memory please? In what branch of the service has Obama served? Let’s not be a hypocrite here. Neither one served.

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Must suck to live your life waiting on Jay’s daily bashing of the repubs. I assume yall write down your new quips for the next day to see who can outdo who. Nothing you write on these blogs means anything. Same ole crap each day. As your esteemed Hillary said ” What does it matter?” Also, as Bobby “blue” Bland sang, ” I pity the fool.”

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Ok, so for any hard-right guys who HAVEN’T posted some gratuitous off-topic comment about the court decision, please turn in your Man Card.

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I would remind Republican voters that the best candidate is not necessarily the onew who tells you what you want to hear, but the one who tells you the truth. As evidence I offer the following:

Sharon Angle of Nevada
Christine O’Donnell of Delaware
Linda McMahon of Connecticut
Todd Akin of Missouri
Richard Mourdock of Indiana

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Withholding Congress’s pay until they actually do their job would be a partial solution to reducing this Fed Debt and should be considered seriously. Then we wouldn’t need TERM LIMITS because the RATS would b abandoning the sinking ship faster than the lobbyists chasing them!

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Jay same old tiresome rhetoric, speculative gibberish, you ARE bored, looks to me that J. Dupree may be the columnist to go with: clinical,objective and newsworthy, Jay will show up in People magazine or the same….Ga. will get the Senator the majority of people want, democracy, there it is warts and all, all the whining and cussing and racial garbage aside-the people speak,….

Jay, sometimes the glass is half FULL…yes that may not rouse your syncophants, but it will break your boredom to have to think outside your severe bias, try it..I double dog dare you…..

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Must be that old knee injury flaring up. Well, at least he has knees.

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“Oy vey, our blog self-proclaimed “constitutional scholars” talking about how Obama may not know the constitution.”

Basta with the Yiddish (as if such expressions really mean anything to the 98% of Americans who are not Jewish). Of course, if one’s purpose is NOT communication – then, hey, whatever floats your boat.

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“Morality” — “However what Obama is doing is as Jay say’s a “technical” impeachable offense.”

How, exactly, is it impeachable?

“Obama should quit skirting the power of Congress and the Constitution. Lack of patience is a poor excuse to violate the law.”

He’s not violating the law, the Constitution or the “power of Congress.” Article 2, Section 2 of the Constitution clearly gives the President the power and authority to make recess appointments.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/art2frag27_user.html#pg521

The legal issue in play here is whether or not Congress’ pro forma sessions, in which no actual business is to be conducted, satisfy the requirements of Congress actually *being in session* in order to prevent a President from making recess appointments or pocket-vetoes of legislation.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/pro_forma_session.htm

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weetamoe

January 25th, 2013
1:34 pm

Hey, I did not hear Rush and had no idea that the word *smackdown* had been copyrighted by Fox radio. The response *foxbots* to every comment one disagrees with is the equivalent of one covering ears with hands and chanting la la la
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What is sad is that you accept every FOXBOT lie so readily that you expect us ALL to accept lies.

I don’t give a damn how much you lie, I’m not believing that THREE of you ass clowns come on here with the same change of topic story using the same damn phrase by coincidence. It is not statistically probable.

Why do you have to lie? Just admit, hey, I got this from………… it doesn’t make a story any more or less true, it just improves your CREDIBILITY. Right now, all three of you have ZERO credibility. Well two of you do. vinny ain’t spoke up. He might actually be man enough to say he where he got it from.

The story itself is very valid and I personally think it deserves a “blog.” You three lying about where you heard it from is just pathetic, but par for the course. And you will wonder why we INDEPENDENTS don’t trust you………

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Mick – Can you prove it was a lie? Both Houses of Congress, even the Dems, voted to go into Iraq. Obviously they believed that there weapons of mass destruction. Did we need to go in to Iraq knowing what we know now? Maybe not. That is hindsight. Also there is this – just because they didn’t find weapons did not mean there weren’t any. I wish we weren’t in Afghanistan now – waste of lives and money and in my opinion a wasted cause. As soon as Obama pulls us out those loyal to the U.S. will be slaughtered, just like they were in Nam, and every thing will return to business as usual. The enemy is there to stay – we aren’t.

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“Ok, so for any hard-right guys who HAVEN’T posted some gratuitous off-topic comment about the court decision, please turn in your Man Card.”

Hmm…are we being a bit touchy? GOP-bashing by Jay and his loyal minions is perfectly fine (I don’t recall seeing any complaints about that from the left), but any “negative press” about Obama or Democrats should be kept to a minimum (or censored entirely). I do credit Jay with allowing a great deal of free speech here. He has Kyle beat hands down in that department.

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IF you’ll tell me where we’re going to get the other $907B to get us out of deficit spending.

That’s easy. Send the Republicans the bill for the Iraq War.

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morality

Not going to refight that argument but we did have weapons inspectors in iraq who were allowed to search anywhere they wanted and found nothing. They told us not to invade without the evidence but rumsfield said he knew where they were – lie! Bottom line they wanted war and warned of mushroom clouds, yellow cake uranium, and hundreds of thousands of deaths occurred, now thats a real crime!!!

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HEH – JAY said that what Obama did was unconstitutional – that should be enough for you since Jay is an expert on every thing. I will take his word for it.

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“Obama dodged Viet Nam? Who knew?”

He was ineligible for the draft, silly – not yet being born in Kenya.

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It’s now officially double points weekend. I’ll see you all Sunday……. well unless I make Prestige Master before then…….

Just remember, there is a soldier in all of us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pblj3JHF-Jo

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Both Houses of Congress, even the Dems, voted to go into Iraq.

More simplistic claptrap.

GOP votes to let the Worst ever botch and invasion and occupation – 97%

NINETY SEVEN PERCENT!!!

Democrats who voted yes – 43%.

Left up to the Dems, the Greatest F Ups in Modern American History could not have gotten all of those Americans KIA’d needlessly.

And you wonder why you have gotten your sorry asses kicked in three of the past four elections?

Get used to it. That trend is just getting started, fake conservatives…

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Hmm…are we being a bit touchy? GOP-bashing by Jay and his loyal minions is perfectly fine (I don’t recall seeing any complaints about that from the left), but any “negative press” about Obama or Democrats should be kept to a minimum (or censored entirely

Why no, I’m not the least bit touchy, TC. I do think, however, that when two or three guys have already posted “hey, did you see THIS? Isn’t this an amazing story?” seemingly unaware that it’s already had some airing… it’s point-and-chuckle-worthy, is all.

and if you see lefties pulling the same chuckleworthy move, by all means, enjoy some larfs yourself.

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Skip – no one said any thing about Obama dodging service or did I miss it? Any way he was a bit young for Viet Nam. Just pointed out that Obama did not serve in the military when some one on here called “W” a coward for not serving. Not serving does not necessarily make you a coward any more than serving makes you a non coward. Back then you could get drafted – they did not exempt cowards. After all Al Gore served in the film room during Viet Nam but never saw combat ’cause his daddy was a Senator. His daddy advised Gore to serve ’cause it would be good on his political resume. Daddy also made sure Al was far from harm.

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Mick, do you actually READ my comments with anything close to an open mind ? Goodness , did a burr get under your saddle, goodness, you of the “foxbot”, “ass clowns”. This blog has become a warm box for the Left (add a few objective people to get abused) to have their preconceptions of conservatives massaged into the holy truth by Jay’s syncophants…. Personally, I learn from you guys ,gives me a accurate impression of the Dem base…Helps in discussions, THANKS!

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“But as you will always love and defend your Republican swiftboaters who spit on valorous combat veterans, you’ll play stupid to perfection, like you always do.”

Let’s see if I have this straight, JV. All military veterans who served in combat are worthy of respect, but some are more worthy than others – especially when they “spit” on their comrades (or perhaps denigrate their service to a government expecting insanely unrealistic things from them before Congress).

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TC, one other thing:

I do credit Jay with allowing a great deal of free speech here. He has Kyle beat hands down in that department.

I’ll actually defend Kyle a bit, here. He’s tried to establish specific rules of engagement and expects people to obey them.

I’ve read his rules, they don’t seem unreasonable to me. Not saying I’d rather post there — I’m only an occasional visitor — but I have no problem with how he’s maintained his comments threads, in my limited experience anyway.

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Morality — ” After all Al Gore served in the film room during Viet Nam but never saw combat ’cause his daddy was a Senator. His daddy advised Gore to serve ’cause it would be good on his political resume. Daddy also made sure Al was far from harm.”

On the scale of danger, Vietnam > Texas.

I don’t care if Mr. Bush held the most dangerous post in the entire Texas Air National Guard; wherever he served and whatever he did, he was a heck of a lot safer than Al Gore was in ‘Nam.

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Jay, to jump back to your prior thread regarding the RNC proposals to the EC, one thing I was aware of:

the National Popular Vote interstate compact, an agreement among states to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide. If states with more than half of all electoral votes sign up for this, it goes into effect.

So far, only nine states with a total of 132 electoral votes have signed up [but that is 49% of the 270 EV's needed. ]

The GOP may bring about the effective demise of the EC. http://www.nationalpopularvote.com

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Reed might run

I doubt he wins

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I hope Sam olens runs and wins

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Btw

Saxby beat Cleland in a miserable manner, so i say good riddance

Cleland may not have been the best senator either, but saxby’s election tactics were disgusting

Live by the sword, die by the sword

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“IF you’ll tell me where we’re going to get the other $907B to get us out of deficit spending.

That’s easy. Send the Republicans the bill for the Iraq War.”

I recall democrats voting to fund the war. Selective memory do you have!

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What a shock…the ajc has no coverage of the March for Life.

oh, stop griping. I had a look at the Google news feed (by the way, “March for life” netted “About 19,700 results”) and all I can say is, none of the headlines refer to these a-holes as “pro-criminalization”, even though that’s what they’re actually about.

also, this.

http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/legislative/40-years-after-roe-v-wade-abortion-foes-march-on/nT569/

I guess that^^ doesn’t count.

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Mama – TRUE – any where in Viet Nam was not a good place to be. But daddy did keep Al out of combat and they agreed the risk was worth it to further Al’s political career and daddy’s ambition for his son to reach heights daddy never reached – the Presidency. Al did not go to Viet Nam to fight for his country – he went for his political future. Something wrong there to me – how about you?

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“I’ll actually defend Kyle a bit, here. He’s tried to establish specific rules of engagement and expects people to obey them.”

Well, he basically put me – someone who probably agrees with most of what he’d say and would be supportive of his points in my posts – on probation (all submitted comments are moderated) because I used more than one screen name for satiric purposes (I mean, I don’t know what else to do with posters who do little more than say things like “the GOP are morons, the GOP are morons, the GOP are morons – and I suspect you know those about whom I am speaking). So I satirize them along with liberal mantras or memes that are repeated so often you think you are in canyon. So I have basically written Kyle off; I don’t even read his columns. I would think someone with his education would appreciate literary devices, but he appears to be too straight laced for that. Jay, by contrast, apparently does. So he deserves credit for that.

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Dawg’88

January 25th, 2013
2:19 pm

What a shock…the ajc has no coverage of the March for Life.

Even though there are more prolife protestors than attendees of the inauguration of the leader of the Culture of Death.
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Are you a fine Christian as you post these lies? If so, Jesus would NOT be proud of you. I see nothing to indicate anything even NEAR 800,000 people at your death march.

Wow. I am SO sick of liars. I wish they would just die. Can you imagine how much easier life would be if liars just died on the spot?

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Mick,

I dunno about alexs arrogance proceeding him. I just know that in my case my arrogance precedes me. Just messin witcha.

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Of all states Romney carried, Georgia was the LEAST red state, with the exception of North Carolina. The legislature has gerrymandered the crap out of their own districts, and the congressional districts, but they can’t do that with U.S. Senate seats. If the Republicans have a bloodbath and pick a Tea Party candidate, and if the Democrats pick someone who is not extremely liberal, I think you will be surprised about how close this vote will be in two years.

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morality

Like you were in al gore’s head and know his thoughts? Because he was a man of conscience and knew that the vast majority of people being drafted were from the lower class and he of the priviledged class, he thought he had a moral obligation to serve. That’s what he says and I take him for his word…

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You’re all a bunch of lying foxbot hannity limbaugh boortz listening moronic idiots!

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“Morality” — “Mama – TRUE – any where in Viet Nam was not a good place to be.”

Agreed.

“But daddy did keep Al out of combat”

Lie.

Gore was an Army Combat Correspondent. Maybe you should read this book before you say anything else.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/requiem-tim-page/1002381273

Here are some of the photos from that book.

http://digitaljournalist.org/issue9711/req1.htm

The men and women whose photos fill that book were doing the *same* job as Gore was when they were killed in Vietnam and the surrounding area.

“Something wrong there to me – how about you?”

Yeah. You don’t know a damn thing about what people in Gore’s line of work were doing in Vietnam.

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Mick – right – take his WORD since he is such an honest person. I did not make this up – letters and documents of correspondence between daddy Gore and son back this up. It is in writing.

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“and remember, by “defend the unborn,” Dawg’88 means “throw women and their doctors in jail.””

Yep, because there’s no way to STOP a woman from getting an abortion…you can only decide to punish her (and the doctor when she has one) – which means you haven’t DEFENDED anything.

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So by calling Chambliss a coward and a draft dodger because he did not volunteer makes him a coward?

No, he’s a coward and a draft-dodger because he’s a coward who dodged the draft. He didn’t “not volunteer” he ran the hell away. It’s not that complicated.

Now, comparing his disabled vet opponent to Al Qaeda made Saxby a whale $#!^ eating giant isopod cowardly draft-dodger.

Please keep hugging Saxby, that nasty smell sticks. After a while you’ll find people have a time limit on how long they’ll hold their nose to vote GOP.

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“and remember, by “defend the unborn,” Dawg’88 means “throw women and their doctors in jail.””

What do you do to murderers?

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“Are you a fine Christian as you post these lies? If so, Jesus would NOT be proud of you…Wow. I am SO sick of liars. I wish they would just die. Can you imagine how much easier life would be if liars just died on the spot?”

Or people who commit adultery, steal, accuse others falsely, abuse others in word or deed and…wait…that wouldn’t leave too many people left on earth. Maybe what God has in mind is giving people time to repent.

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Mick,

Are you merely implying that i’m only an advocate of the devil? My game must be slipping cause I think some of the libs thought I was the devil himself.

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td

January 25th, 2013
2:48 pm

Fred ™

January 25th, 2013
2:33 pm

You do know there is a huge entertainment industry called wrestling? They have a actual show on TV called Smackdown. Also, one of their biggest entertainers has coined a saying that if another entertainer gets in the ring with him then he is going to “layith the Smackdown on him”. So to say that the term Smackdown is a nontraditional term is not an accurate statement. See this circumstantial evidence just proves that you are an idiot. Is this not the way this type of evidence works?

“The appeals court laid a smackdown on Obama” In other words the Appeals court pulled Obama’s pants down and spanked his little A$$.
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In other words yes you are a liar and there’s not a chance in hell of you finding five posts of your own MUCH LESS five from the other two using that phrase.

Keep on lying, it makes you appear to be winning………… well at least in your far right wing mind.

Dude, do you realize how stupid you look? You three used the EXACT same phraseology and subject. All within 90 minutes of each other. It doesn’t happen. Well not unless you are all three of the posters……….. i mean if you are using a couple of alts then it would be logical that you weren’t bright enough to change your terminology………

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Jay

January 25th, 2013
1:17 pm
Morality, with a name like “Morality,” you should already know the answer to your question.

Yes, something that is technically legal can be cheating. Is legality the only basis for determining right and wrong? (And again, the legality of this particular approach is itself uncertain.)

When slugger Mark McGuire was taking the steroid androstenedione back in the late ’90s, was he cheating? It wasn’t on baseball’s list of proscribed drugs at the time.

So Jay….using your logic….isn’t abortion, while legal, still the murder of an unborn child??

I challenge any dimlib to argue otherwise.

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“You’re all a bunch of lying foxbot hannity limbaugh boortz listening moronic idiots!”

Exterminate all the brutes!

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You are so predictable. Do you ever actually think about a subject?

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Yep, because there’s no way to STOP a woman from getting an abortion…you can only decide to punish her (and the doctor when she has one) – which means you haven’t DEFENDED anything.

I guess to play devil’s advocate, one can effectively stop SOME people from having the procedure by incrementally making it as difficult as possible, as these a-holes have done in some of the more backward states. But of course you can’t forcibly prevent pregnancy terminations from happening; and while I’ve heard some “pro-lifers” vociferously object to my term “pro-criminalization,” I don’t know what else you’d call advocating for a personhood amendment. Obviously if you’re conferring basic citizenship rights to embryonic life, you’re going to be committing some crime if you end that life. I don’t see any way around the use of the criminal code to accomplish that.

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Or people who commit adultery, steal, accuse others falsely, abuse others in word or deed and…wait…that wouldn’t leave too many people left on earth. Maybe what God has in mind is giving people time to repent.

I’m not got, I don’t know God’s mind, and I don’t speak for God. I speak for myself. I was pretty freaking clear on that. I said I not God, wish that liars would just die.

But thank you for your sermon. I’m sure it made logical sense to someone.

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Doggone/GA

January 25th, 2013
2:57 pm
“So Jay….using your logic….isn’t abortion, while legal, still the murder of an unborn child?? ”

Nope

dude…you’re a cold fish if you really believe this. you and mengele would have been great friends.

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The Republicans will start losing elections because of Demographics in the 2018 and 2020 elections cycles.

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Of course the political story of the day was the march in Washington, but the godless, morally bankrupt prefer to slam Repubs rather that have to admit to their sanction of the murders of 55 million innocents.

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Headline: “Frustrated Chambliss won’t run”

Will Perdue run ?

Will Bookman run ?

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AmericaShrugged

January 25th, 2013
3:01 pm
Of course the political story of the day was the march in Washington, but the godless, morally bankrupt prefer to slam Repubs rather that have to admit to their sanction of the murders of 55 million innocents.

Amen!

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How about all those liberals leaving New York and California because of high taxes, etc.

Hey …………. you made those states ………. STAY THERE and live with it !

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Stands,

I’m 90% sure it was you who that made that comment about a month ago when the topic had to do with jobs, outsourcing, or immigration. I’ve brought it up numerous times and you’ve never denied that you made that comment. And you’re just now denying it? I can only guess that enough time has passed that you’re hoping I won’t go back through all those blogs to find it. I’ll check to see if I snap shot it to my computer. On on my Droid right now about to meet my 3 pm appt. I’ll look for it. But kinda funny that you’re just now trying to deny it.

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I’m trying to learn liberal……….GOP in Va cheating changing law on electorate………so Obama cheating on recess appointments?

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R. W. Extreme — “….isn’t abortion, while legal, still the murder of an unborn child??”

There’s no such thing as an “unborn child.” Until the fetus is born, it’s not a “child.” And once it’s born, it’s no longer “unborn.”

“I challenge any dimlib to argue otherwise.”

Dude, you’re the one arguing contradictions, not us.

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One of the key things I see wrong with the GOP is their lack of education. How did Jindal phrase it. Oh yes. The GOP is the stupid party.

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“so Obama cheating on recess appointments?”

Yes

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this is not the sort of thing that I would necessarily acknowledge knowing about in a forum like this.

There IS another poster here who regularly uses the term “smackdown.” But td has already denied he is an alt. Until today, I don’t recall anyone else using it, much less THREE people within 90 minutes on the SAME OFF TOPIC SUBJECT.

I think someone here wish’s they were Manti Te’o’s “girlfriend,” the ultimate alt………..

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I agree. It’ll come down to a race between Broun and Price to see who is the most narrow minded, radical wing-nut and most likely to take the state closer to the 19th century in education, science and social outlook.

Broun, winner of the 2012 Darwin Award, looks to be about a half step out in front of Price, but that can be made up easily by Price uttering two or three ridiculous statements that would demonstrate equal ignorance and stupidity to Broun.

It’s going to be a race back to the Republican Comfort Zone — the 19th century.

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Kudos to Jm @2:28!

For every Hagel and McCain, with the guts and basic human decency to denounce Pigby’s words and insinuations, there were dozens of Westmorelands, Brouns, Gingreys, Prices, McConnells, Boehners, Hannitys, Limbaughs, Boortzs and Deals who said nothing and probably loved it.

And for every Jm there are tons of Moralitys, Sinkwichs, JohnnyRebs, vinnys, Plain Liars, Dels, lil BBs, and tds in the GOP who don’t have any hair south of the equator (If you catch my drift.) and without the guts and decency to do so.

Had ANY Democrat said those things about ANY GOP politician, I would have flamed them no less than I do Pigby.

THAT is the difference between decent Americans and Republicans.

Swiftboat away, Pigby fans. That tactic of denigrating our bravest men of sacrifice seems to be doing wonders for you America haters

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Legally speaking if the law says it is legal to murder babies then you can legally murder them and not be tried for murder as long as you follow the legal procedures. However that does not keep murdering the unborn from being immoral – which it is. Legal just means the gub’ment says go ahead and do it and we will let it go. Immoral means go ahead and do it if you wish – God will be the final judge and jury.

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I’ve brought it up numerous times and you’ve never denied that you made that comment.

I’ve told *you* on four previous occasions, in recent days, that I honestly had no idea what you’re talking about.

I’ve wracked my brain, and the only thing I can recall, vaguely, was lampooning some people’s horror/revulsion at a small percentage of Chinese-owned T-bills as fear of the “inscrutable Chinee.”

So I googled it and I actually found this, from back in Dec.:

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/12/07/economic-trends-bode-poorly-for-the-working-man/#comment-1168937

By some chance, is THAT what you’re claiming was “racist?” Really?

If so, it’s kind of weird that you said nothing about it at the time, in that thread anyway.

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“There’s no such thing as an “unborn child.” Until the fetus is born, it’s not a “child.” And once it’s born, it’s no longer “unborn.”

False. There is no objective way of knowing that. I guess it all depends on where you are getting your “information” or “knowledge” or “understanding”. The Bible, for instance, plainly speaks of pregnant women being “with child”. The definitions follow from one’s worldview.

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Thulsa, Stands has been asking you to provide proof for days.
RWE, yep, sorry to beak it to ya but we’re animals. We have blood pumping,and muscles and bones and all the same things that all the other mammals have too. I like to think that all living beings have some sort of soul.

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I am sure that someone pointed out to the cons that a Catholics hospital does not consider a fetus a human and thus it did not commit “murder”. Are they advocating for murder charges against those Catholic hospital officials?

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“… The political fortunes of Democrats in general are improving but they haven’t improved quite enough in Georgia.”

Darn the luck. I guess over half our voters are still self-sufficient.

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R. W. Extreme — “You are aware that fetus is latin for offspring.”

So?

“So you’re telling me that five minutes before you slipped down your mom’s birth canal and out into the real world you weren’t a person…and then you were???”

Yep.

“Man, if you really believe that, you’re one sad puppy.”

Sad, in your opinion. Right, definitely.

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oh and RWE, when the human race is endangered and near extinct (which is why people show concern over turtle nests and protect the eggs) I’ll change my opinion and tell women that they can’t have abortions,. Until then, its their body and their choice.

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“Unborn child” is a term for a HUMAN fetus – meaning that what is aborted is a living human being and will become a human child if left alone. If you can change words around to mean something else why not “unborn child”. For example gay always meant happy until someone stole the word and it is now a slang word for homosexual. A human fetus is a human being – has human DNA – can’t be anything but human. Stick that one in your pipe and smoke it. If you want to kill human’s for your convenience just say so. Now I am not one that would say that a woman raped should be made to have the child – I couldn’t make that decision – but killing a human out of convenience because it will cramp your life style – that’s another matter that I can’t agree with. RESPONSIBILITY still means responsibility and most of the time YOU are responsible for your actions.

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Our only hope for survival is to impose term limits. Either they nurture their constituents or they are replaced.
We must replace fat cat compromisers like Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson.

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You wrote at 11:25 a.m., “He’ll probably also tell us that if he had wanted to run again, he’s certain that he would have won.”

Indeed. Jim Galloway’s 9:42 a.m. article that YOU linked to included that exact phrase, which was extracted from Saxby’s press release. Did you even read the article you referenced?

Are you ever embarrassed to introduce yourself as a “journalist” when you meet someone new? Or does “angry, miserable, barely-literate jackass” just not roll off the tongue as easily?

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Peadawg @ 3:07

Exactly ! Hypocrisy at its worst !!

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stands for decibels

January 25th, 2013
3:00 pm

They have a actual show on TV called Smackdown. Also, one of their biggest entertainers has coined a saying that if another entertainer gets in the ring with him then he is going to “layith the Smackdown on him”.

this is not the sort of thing that I would necessarily acknowledge knowing about in a forum like this.

Why not. The entertainers on there are much closer to the truth then many of the leftest bloggers on this blog.

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what is aborted is a living human being and will become a human child if left alone.

Left alone?

Boy, you sure have laid it out plain as day what you think of the incubators condemned to carry each and every one of those “children” to term.

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“…a human being – has human DNA – can’t be anything but human.”

So anything with human DNA is human life?

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The entertainers on there are much closer to the truth then many of the leftest bloggers on this blog.

I was mostly just joshin’. More than a few folks have drawn a direct line between pro wrestling and what passes for political discourse on the TeeVee, after all.

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Just my opinion, but the GOP might want to check in with Bibi…

And Newt?

Anglo-Saxon expletives deleted…

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“Legally speaking if the law says it is legal to murder babies then you can legally murder them and not be tried for murder as long as you follow the legal procedures. However that does not keep murdering the unborn from being immoral – which it is. Legal just means the gub’ment says go ahead and do it and we will let it go. Immoral means go ahead and do it if you wish – God will be the final judge and jury.”

Interestingly (or perhaps sadly), to your point, apparently “non-voluntary euthanasia” (or what some are calling infanticide) is being permitted across the ocean:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_euthanasia#The_Netherlands

I think this kind of substantiates your point. The “legality” and “morality” of killing another human being lies in its justification (valid or not). Infanticide was indeed “legal” in ancient times (as was governments murdering millions upon millions of people in the 20th century – lest anyone think such things are in the past).

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Morality: I just read your post on Al Gore and his military service, I don’t know how I missed it before. I have to say sir that I think you are so far wrong on that that there isn’t an argument to the contrary. I really DON’T like Al Gore. I don’t like his politics. I think he is a disingenuous far left wing nutcase. In other words, he says the words but doesn’t walk the walk. But his military service? As a war protestor he JOINED the Army so that someone else wouldn’t be sent in his place. After his father was defeated he DID get to Vietnam.

I’m short of time, but I think you should research Gore’s time in the Army. Like I said, I despise the man and his politics, but I very much admire his military service, his reasons for joining, and his conduct while in the Army. I can’t say the same about John Kerry but that’s a discussion for a different day. One where I can answer the howls of Jamvet lol.

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josef

Bibi took a hit but hung on.

You think he will cozy up to the “moderates”, “hardliners” or some coalition of both?

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Poor Morality. Stuck with his opinion and no way he can force it on everyone. Reduced to shrieking on blogs.

On the other hand one of my zygotes murdered by Jesus might have turned out like that, so maybe He does know best.

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stands for decibels

“See, words have meanings. You toss a word like “murder” around like that and dumb down its meaning, you can expect to not be taken terribly seriously, and mocked.”

Same goes when you replace ‘murder’ with ‘child.’ Only difference some here can do an adequate job defining what murder is but they”ve no idea what a child is.

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Aquagirl

January 25th, 2013
3:40 pm
Poor Morality. Stuck with his opinion and no way he can force it on everyone. Reduced to shrieking on blogs.

On the other hand one of my zygotes murdered by Jesus might have turned out like that, so maybe He does know best.

poor lib…can’t win at the poles….have to push their agenda through the courts.

btw…Jesus has never murdered anyone.

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TBS

Bibi took a hit but hung on
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But did he inhale, don’t bogart that thing

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Jay,The reason you believe the Republican Party’s moving to the right is that the Democrat Party’s moving to the left at warp speed under Obama’s socialistic policies.

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they”ve no idea what a child is.

I’ve suggested they substitute the term “child” with “future terrorist”, or “future 47% moocher”, but that doesn’t appear to be catching on.

/drive-by

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FRED (TM) Guess you missed it – the correspondence papers and letters between Egore and daddy explained exactly why daddy wanted Egore to join the service and Egore agreed that it would be good for his poiltical career for him to go. That came out a long time ago. Daddy wanted his son to be Prez since daddy actually ran for Prez and didn’t get there. Egore wanted to be Prez even at that early age. All of this is in their writings. Egore never denied it.

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“Morality” — “Mama – National Guard during Viet Nam was a pass to stay out of Viet Nam.”

The Guard back then was meant for defense of the USA on USA soil and they weren’t sent over seas.”

Really?

http://www.ngef.org/index.asp?bid=48

“As for a free pass on immoral acts – I don’t think you get a free ride just because you are a no believer.”

Rejected. Consider this:

Do you sin against Islam when you eat pork? No? Why?

Do you sin against Judaism when you do work on a Saturday? No? Why?

So why would you think that I’m sinning against your god when I’m not an adherent of your religion?

“God is real”

So you say.

“even if you choose not to believe so.”

Sorry, nothing doing.

“I know God is real from personal experience.”

Then I encourage you to pursue your religion in whatever way you wish.

“No doubt in my mind. For your own sake try to have an open mind.”

You, too. Maybe you could have an open mind about Judaism or Islam. For all you know, they’re right and you’re wrong.

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R. W. Extreme — “Are you Muslim?”

No.

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“btw…Jesus has never murdered anyone”

…as far as you know…

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td — “Isn’t funny that these same people that want to deny the unborn is alive”

FAIL.

I didn’t make any claim about “alive” or not. You need to pay closer attention to what others actually write.

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JHM

I wanted to open an Outback Steakhouse in Bangalore, but someone told me it was a bad idea.

I wonder why?

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poor lib…can’t win at the poles….

I’m pretty certain a ballot on legal birth control would pass in any State. But yeah, I’d prefer sticking with courts instead of folks unable to spell “polls.”

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“Don’t speak too much about polls.”

I don’t – re-read my post. I only included the poll results for the benefit of those liberals who want to argue “we all ready have term limits” for those in Congress when, technically speaking, we do not (in case referring them to the 22nd Amendment has no effect on their thinking).

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Towncrier — “Age before beauty”

In which case you’d never get to go.

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Mama – a human fetus has human DNA – and will never be anything else but human. That is a scientific fact. Human cancer cells are mutated cells. Cancer cells in humans also have human DNA but that they will never be a human child. Trying to make this real simple for you here. You already know all of this of course but you refuse to agree because you will lose the debate. Killing a human fetus is killing a human being. I did not say murder because murder is a legal term.

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TC

You are correct, we do not. But if the voters want to “term limit” any given official, they can vote him out.

But “term limits” in a sense that says a Senator or Congressmen can only serve so many terms, nope

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“I can guarantee you He hasn’t murdered anyone based on the authority of the Bible.”

1) Where does it say that?

2) Maybe he snuck away one time when the author wasn’t looking.

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I can guarantee you He hasn’t murdered anyone based on the authority of the Bible.

I thought con logic was abortion = murder. I dunno where you’re going with that, unless it’s my fault my child died because I didn’t implant the egg in a Bible or something.

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Joe Hussein Mama

January 25th, 2013
3:52 pm

td — “Isn’t funny that these same people that want to deny the unborn is alive”

FAIL.

I didn’t make any claim about “alive” or not. You need to pay closer attention to what others actually write.

Did I call you out by name? Now that we are on the subject. If they are “alive” then it must be a child and therefore if the child is killed then it is homicide.

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Wow. Here is an interesting read:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2013/01/28/gun-laws-and-the-fools-of-chelm-by-david-mamet.html

Perhaps before some of those posting here might want to read this in preparation:

http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-03-11/news/why-i-am-no-longer-a-brain-dead-liberal/

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Regnad Kcin
2) Maybe he snuck away one time when the author wasn’t looking.
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I have always preferred the word ’snuck’ to sneaked, it seems so
much more descriptive of the action.

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“Morality” — “Mama – a human fetus has human DNA – and will never be anything else but human. That is a scientific fact. Human cancer cells are mutated cells. Cancer cells in humans also have human DNA but that they will never be a human child. Trying to make this real simple for you here.”

Then you need to work out your arguments with greater care before you present them.

“You already know all of this of course but you refuse to agree because you will lose the debate.”

Nope.

“Killing a human fetus is killing a human being.”

I disagree.

“I did not say murder because murder is a legal term.”

I understand and respect that. I appreciate you meeting me halfway here.

Towncrier’s suggestion that I take a class on semantics is, of course, about 25 years too late. Besides, he — and you — wants me to apply a specific denotation to “child” that I simply don’t agree with. I don’t reject the notion that a fetus is “alive,” but being “alive” is not, in and of itself, sufficient for the imputation of *human* rights. Ergo, pro-lifers like yourself and Towncrier are now trying to argue that a fetus is “alive” (which I grant) and that it is ‘human’ (which I don’t) and that it is a “child” (which I also don’t grant).

Towncrier’s right in that this is a matter of semantics, but he’s incorrect in his insistence that his preferred denotaion be used. He’s certainly welcome to use it himself — and I presume that you’d agree with him — but he’s in no position to require that others use it as well.

Good try though, TC.

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“If they are “alive” then it must be a child and therefore if the child is killed then it is homicide.”

Extreme logic fail…

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Someone signal when it is time for me to quit laughing myself into unconsciousness! Jay Bookman actually thinks there is a snowballs chance in hell that a Democratic candidate has a chance to win a U.S. Senate seat in Georgia in 2014! Right smack in the middle of Obama’s second term?! You are kidding us Jay, right?! If so, I am going to walk on at UGA to play football because even I have a chance at winning next year’s Heisman Trophy…even though I will be 53 this June. I have the same chance of making the team as anyone running for Senate in Georgia and winning as a Democrat!!

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Conservatives should support Jack Kingston. No one is more conservative but many from Metro Atlanta in Congress cannot keep from spouting nonsense about sex and rape.. Kingston is bright, a gentleman, AND A MAN GEORGIA COULD BE PROUD OF, AS WE IN SAVANNAH ARE PROUD OF HIM.

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td — “Did I call you out by name?”

Since I was the only person to make the argument you were complaining about, I suggest you pull up your big-boy pants and admit that you were responding to me.

“Now that we are on the subject. If they are “alive” then it must be a child”

Nope.

“and therefore if the child is killed then it is homicide.”

Nope.

Of course, if that’s what you think, then I encourage you to live by that code in your life. However, I don’t agree with it and I don’t choose to comport myself in that manner.

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It’s just playing with semantics to justify what is unethical behavior at the least. Even playing the legal game, how many people have been convicted of mulitple homicides for killing a pregnant woman? I’m pretty sure homicide is a synonym for murder, so yes even under the law we’re talking murder. No one was ever tried for war crimes for firebombing and nuking a few hundred thousand Japanese women and children either, but that didn’t make it a morally righteous act.

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Josef, Jay, someone, please get that person who calls himself Fred a tinfoil hat.

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Yes Dems. PLEASE nominate Thurbert Baker. He couldnt win an election for dogcatcher.

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Bookman, you are such a jerk.

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“I will add that it imo it is an excuse when people who want term limits, continue to vote for the same person because they might have to vote across party lines or for a 3rd party candidate. ”

That is fine and I can certainly accept and appreciate your thinking on the matter. But saying that as you have is different than saying “we already have term limits” in an attempt to shut down or ridicule others who think differently. Don’t you think?

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“Surely THAT’S never happened with anyone posting here.”

Probably NOT as a result of anything I have said, ROFL. Yeah, Mamet went the right way and you went astray.

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“Bookman, you are such a jerk.”

Cox, you are such a jerk

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“Somehow, I will have to find a way to live with the knowledge that somewhere out there, some anonymous person doesn’t like me.”

As long as she isn’t your wife, I think you’ll be fine Jay.

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Any word on what Chambliss’s golden parachute will be? Sure he’s got two more years, but maybe another high paying position at GPB might miraculously open up at about that time?

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Towncrier — “Probably NOT as a result of anything I have said, ROFL. Yeah, Mamet went the right way and you went astray.”

Shrug.

Maybe y’all can make up some ground with the voters by luring away more folks like Mamet before 2016 rolls around?

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Somehow, I will have to find a way to live with the knowledge that somewhere out there, some anonymous person doesn’t like me.

Come on Jay…surely there’s people you know that don’t like you either and family doesn’t count

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“Maybe y’all can make up some ground with the voters by luring away more folks like Mamet before 2016 rolls around?”

I think JamVet would say that was highly unlikely. I think if our side gets one more besides Mamet, Medved and Prager (all Jewish converts to the right), we’d be lucky.

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Sure is hard to be a common sense conservative centrist focused on getting things done in any way that makes sense. The toxic climate evidenced by posts here illustrate what’s killing our democracy.

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Towncrier — “But guessing you are referring to his claims of (what you would call) a fetus being a child, since you already stipulate a “fetus” (even one that looks remarkable human like in early stages of development) is “alive” but NOT an “unborn child” then obviously the scientific facts are not going to objectively decide what terms are applied to such a being or organism.”

FWIW, the bugs in your digestive system are “alive” and you kill them by the millions whenever you take antibiotics for seasonal upper respiratory infection. The definition of “alive” is quite broad, but I’m sure we could agree that Streptococcus Thermophilus are in no way “human.”

Honestly, I think the definition of “child” or “human being” — when it comes to the abortion issue — is going to have to be couched in a legal definition that’s simply *bound* to upset some people. Either it’s going to be too inclusive (which would give me agita) or it wouldn’t be exclusive enough (which would likely trouble you).

Clearly, there has to be an operational definition of “child,” and since not everyone operates the same way, some people’s opinions are simply inevitably going to be trod upon. I’m afraid I don’t see any way around it.

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Why would a dem bother running? They have no chance here….

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“Why would a dem bother running? They have no chance here”

That’s not quite true. They might have only a very slim chance, but it’s only if they don’t run that they have NO chance

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Saxby shows a little common sense and a sincere interest in doing what is right for the country and the
wacko rights hammer him. The GOP continues to slide into irrelevance. The very wealthy and blue collar whites now the majority of their. Wealth only care about taxes and the blue collars are too dumb to know they are voting against the own interests.

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Ol’ Suxby Shameless is hardcore neocon and (like most senators) a globalist shill. We need a strict Constitutionalist (ala Ron Paul) serving in there.

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Let Nathan Deal run for Saxby’s seat in 2014 and then I would like to see Wayne Mason’s son, Keith, a true blue / yellow dog democrat, run for Governor next time around?

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Just Saying..

January 25th, 2013
5:35 pm

Cons, you can spin this any way you like, but the fact is the Party throws away a near certain win, with three term seniority, for first term (Mack Mattingly, anyone?) replacement, at longer odds.

Or, the same decision making that resulted in:
-loss of the White House
-fewer seats in the Senate
-fewer seats in the House

You seem to have forgotten to also say that:

30 Governors
total control of 29 state legislatures
half control of 6 state legislatures.

233 to 200 majority in the house while in 2008 256 Dems and 178 Republicans.

See the parties that hold the power in the states control the congress.

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I sure hope Price get the nomination- we need a real clown to replace Saxby or someone whose unethical behavior makes them qualified by Georgia GOP standards.

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Stupid party (Jindal’s term) just rewarded Rinse a Prebus for creating the circus that lost the election in 2012 by picking this clown for another term. Mean time the GOP leader who brilliantly achieved success in 2010, Michael Steele is given the boot.

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An interesting read related to the status of the unborn:

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/23/salon-yeah-abortion-takes-a-life-so-what/

I had never even considered this whole question from the standpoint of individual women vacillating in completely contradictory ways on whether or not the life they are carrying is human. You have to be kidding me! That is no way to logically resolve the question. So the morality of abortion is determined by a woman’s moods (if her pregnancy was brought on by a choice she made to have sexual intercourse without ensuring she wouldn’t get pregnant if that isn’t what she wanted)? How unbelievably idiotic, contradictory and immoral!

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Looking for a qualified successor to Sen. Chambliss? Willing to look at the person and not blindly vote by party? Figure out who this person might be.

The son and grandson of army generals.
Graduated from high school in Mobile, Alabama.
Served in Vietnam as an Airborne Ranger reconnaissance platoon sergeant
Earned two Bronze Stars (with “V” devices for valor) and a Purple Heart.
Inducted into the U.S. Army Ranger Hall of Fame.
Undergraduate degree from Princeton University and
Law degree from Boston University.
Mayor of Macon with strong fiscal conservative credentials.
two terms in the US House of Representatives.

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“You see…. Georgia is a moocher red state that depends on Federal money to keep it afloat.”

If that is the case it is only because of the proliferation of carpetbagging yankee transplants.

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“You mean like Georgia’s version of Ray Nagin, Nathan Deal?”

I think you meant to say Raw-ee Barnes.

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“Why don’t the Democrats go ahead and nominate Cynthia McKinney for the seat? She is the perfect candidate – very representative of the D Party in Georgia today.

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Is she the same Congresswoman that exposed George W. Bush and the weapons of mass destruction?”

Yes, Cynthia, the great conspiracy theorist. She’s still looking for those evil space aliens. Actually she was exposed for assaulting a police officer.

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“Obama dodged Viet Nam? Who knew?”

I’m afraid you’re confusing Obama with ol’ draft dodgin’ Billy Clinton.

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Again, I am not an anti-abortion extremist, but why is feticide criminal if unintended, but legal if intended?

O.C.G.A. 16-5-80 (2010)
16-5-80. Feticide; voluntary manslaughter of an unborn child; penalties

(a) For the purposes of this Code section, the term “unborn child” means a member of the species homo sapiens at any stage of development who is carried in the womb.

(b) A person commits the offense of feticide if he or she willfully and without legal justification causes the death of an unborn child by any injury to the mother of such child, which would be murder if it resulted in the death of such mother, or if he or she, when in the commission of a felony, causes the death of an unborn child.

(c) A person convicted of the offense of feticide shall be punished by imprisonment for life.

(d) A person commits the offense of voluntary manslaughter of an unborn child when such person causes the death of an unborn child under circumstances which would otherwise be feticide and if such person acts solely as the result of a sudden, violent, and irresistible passion resulting from serious provocation sufficient to excite such passion in a reasonable person; provided, however, that, if there should have been an interval between the provocation and the killing sufficient for the voice of reason and humanity to be heard, of which the jury in all cases shall be the judge, the killing shall be attributed to deliberate revenge and be punished as feticide.

(e) A person convicted of the offense of voluntary manslaughter of an unborn child shall be guilty of a felony and shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one nor more than 20 years.

(f) Nothing in this Code section shall be construed to permit the prosecution of:

(1) Any person for conduct relating to an abortion for which the consent of the pregnant woman, or person authorized by law to act on her behalf, has been obtained or for which such consent is implied by law;

(2) Any person for any medical treatment of the pregnant woman or her unborn child; or

(3) Any woman with respect to her unborn child.

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how about newt’s wife callista? she could pawn millions in jewels for the needed campaign cash and newt could raise millions more from inside DC access.

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