With ‘Taxby’ gone, Tea Party tacks new RINO hide to wall
As my colleague Jim Galloway first reported, U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss will soon announce that he will not seek re-election in 2014.
Georgia conservatives are already taking credit for the decision, arguing that they pushed “Taxby” into retirement. And they probably did. The senator has a very conservative voting record, but not conservative enough for many in his party. His admission that maybe, just maybe, the Republicans would have to accept higher taxes as a necessary evil made him unacceptable in their eyes, guaranteeing a bitter primary fight.
I doubt Chambliss will admit that internal party dissent played a role in his decision. He might say that by announcing so early, he allows himself to devote the next two years to trying to solve problems in Washington. He’ll probably also tell us that if he had wanted to run again, he’s certain that he would have won.
However, few will believe him, and his departure marks another step in his party’s inexorable march to the right.
The announcement also sets off a free-for-all among Georgia congressmen, who are all too aware that an open Senate seat doesn’t come along very often. As they give up their seats to run, that in turn will create ripples in the Georgia General Assembly, as legislators position themselves to fill those vacancies. It promises to be quite the scene, with GOP Senate hopefuls competing with each other for the title of most-diehard-conservative-ever-ever-ever.
And as an added attraction? As the AJC’s Dan Malloy tweets from Washington, a spokesman for Newt Gingrich may be cracking the door open a bit, observing that “Newt might be on Medicare, but he is not ready for the retirement home.” As you recall, Gingrich won the Georgia presidential primary by 20 percentage points. He had ruled out running in a primary against Chambliss, but this could change things.
(Personally, I think a Gingrich run is unlikely. But in a second tweet, Malloy reports that “Expecting a statement from @NewtGingrich on #GASen today after he speaks with his wife.” UPDATE 12:34: A Gingrich spokesman now says that the former speaker “will not be a candidate in the 2014 GOP Senate primary.”)
On the Democratic side, the promise of a hard-fought, expensive, blood-letting GOP primary, with the process almost certain to produce a candidate much more conservative than the conservative Chambliss, may create a small window of opportunity.
No, the timing isn’t perfect. The demographics of the state may be changing, but they haven’t quite changed enough. The political fortunes of Democrats in general are improving, but they haven’t improved quite enough in Georgia. And the party infrastructure in much of the state is abysmal. Nonetheless, the right Democratic candidate, with the right campaign and message and against the right opponent, could potentially accelerate the process by a cycle or two.
And who might fit the bill as the “right Democratic candidate”? The list is pretty short. U.S. Rep. John Barrow, the only white southern Democrat remaining in the House, has already announced he won’t run for Senate. State Sen. Jason Carter of Decatur has a bright future, but youth and relative inexperience would make victory difficult. And while Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed is probably the party’s best hope in a statewide race, it would be a big political risk even for him.
– Jay Bookman
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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 25th, 2013
3:04 pm
How about all those liberals leaving New York and California because of high taxes, etc.
Hey …………. you made those states ………. STAY THERE and live with it !
rightwingextreme
January 25th, 2013
3:04 pm
Enter your comments here
Thulsa Doom
January 25th, 2013
3:04 pm
Stands,
I’m 90% sure it was you who that made that comment about a month ago when the topic had to do with jobs, outsourcing, or immigration. I’ve brought it up numerous times and you’ve never denied that you made that comment. And you’re just now denying it? I can only guess that enough time has passed that you’re hoping I won’t go back through all those blogs to find it. I’ll check to see if I snap shot it to my computer. On on my Droid right now about to meet my 3 pm appt. I’ll look for it. But kinda funny that you’re just now trying to deny it.
getalife
January 25th, 2013
3:05 pm
The “stupid party”.
“Insulting the voters. intelligence.”
“Stop looking back”
Jindal was on fire.
Redcoat
January 25th, 2013
3:06 pm
I’m trying to learn liberal……….GOP in Va cheating changing law on electorate………so Obama cheating on recess appointments?
TBS
January 25th, 2013
3:06 pm
What is up with the Catholics now saying a fetus is not a person?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:07 pm
R. W. Extreme — “….isn’t abortion, while legal, still the murder of an unborn child??”
There’s no such thing as an “unborn child.” Until the fetus is born, it’s not a “child.” And once it’s born, it’s no longer “unborn.”
“I challenge any dimlib to argue otherwise.”
Dude, you’re the one arguing contradictions, not us.
Peadawg
January 25th, 2013
3:07 pm
“How about all those liberals leaving New York and California because of high taxes, etc.”
Did you see/hear about the tweets from Democrats? It’s all about that “tax anybody but me” mentality.
TaxPayer
January 25th, 2013
3:07 pm
One of the key things I see wrong with the GOP is their lack of education. How did Jindal phrase it. Oh yes. The GOP is the stupid party.
rightwingextreme
January 25th, 2013
3:07 pm
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
3:03 pm
.isn’t abortion, while legal, still the murder of an unborn child?
to put it indelicately–isn’t hamburger, while legal, still the “murder” of a defenseless cow?
See, words have meanings. You toss a word like “murder” around like that and dumb down its meaning, you can expect to not be taken terribly seriously, and mocked.
If you are somehow attempting to equate animal life with human life that shows just how far out of touch with reality you are.
Peadawg
January 25th, 2013
3:08 pm
“so Obama cheating on recess appointments?”
Yes
getalife
January 25th, 2013
3:09 pm
Three con judges.
Fred ™
January 25th, 2013
3:09 pm
this is not the sort of thing that I would necessarily acknowledge knowing about in a forum like this.
There IS another poster here who regularly uses the term “smackdown.” But td has already denied he is an alt. Until today, I don’t recall anyone else using it, much less THREE people within 90 minutes on the SAME OFF TOPIC SUBJECT.
I think someone here wish’s they were Manti Te’o’s “girlfriend,” the ultimate alt………..
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
3:10 pm
“I said I not God, wish that liars would just die…But thank you for your sermon. I’m sure it made logical sense to someone.”
Part of what I was implying is that may well be someone else – at this very moment – wishing verbally abusive people like yourself “would just die”. And, if there wish was granted, where would that leave you? We all of us need a considerable amount of grace. In my opinion, you are simply too old to be making childish statements like “I wish you were dead!” – especially when you appear to be no paragon of moral excellence. Dang, man. In liberal terms, I’d say you seem like a “hater”. Now, go ahead and rage and rant at me for calling you out (like you have tried to call out td on his perceived dissembling).
Ol' Timer
January 25th, 2013
3:10 pm
I agree. It’ll come down to a race between Broun and Price to see who is the most narrow minded, radical wing-nut and most likely to take the state closer to the 19th century in education, science and social outlook.
Broun, winner of the 2012 Darwin Award, looks to be about a half step out in front of Price, but that can be made up easily by Price uttering two or three ridiculous statements that would demonstrate equal ignorance and stupidity to Broun.
It’s going to be a race back to the Republican Comfort Zone — the 19th century.
rightwingextreme
January 25th, 2013
3:11 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:07 pm
R. W. Extreme — “….isn’t abortion, while legal, still the murder of an unborn child??”
There’s no such thing as an “unborn child.” Until the fetus is born, it’s not a “child.” And once it’s born, it’s no longer “unborn.”
“I challenge any dimlib to argue otherwise.”
Dude, you’re the one arguing contradictions, not us.
You are aware that fetus is latin for offspring.
So you’re telling me that five minutes before you slipped down your mom’s birth canal and out into the real world you weren’t a person…and then you were??? Man, if you really believe that, you’re one sad puppy.
JamVet
January 25th, 2013
3:12 pm
Kudos to Jm @2:28!
For every Hagel and McCain, with the guts and basic human decency to denounce Pigby’s words and insinuations, there were dozens of Westmorelands, Brouns, Gingreys, Prices, McConnells, Boehners, Hannitys, Limbaughs, Boortzs and Deals who said nothing and probably loved it.
And for every Jm there are tons of Moralitys, Sinkwichs, JohnnyRebs, vinnys, Plain Liars, Dels, lil BBs, and tds in the GOP who don’t have any hair south of the equator (If you catch my drift.) and without the guts and decency to do so.
Had ANY Democrat said those things about ANY GOP politician, I would have flamed them no less than I do Pigby.
THAT is the difference between decent Americans and Republicans.
Swiftboat away, Pigby fans. That tactic of denigrating our bravest men of sacrifice seems to be doing wonders for you America haters
getalife
January 25th, 2013
3:12 pm
Jindal’s speech is trying to get the cons to move left out of la la land.
Can they handle the truth or do they agree?
Morality?
January 25th, 2013
3:12 pm
Legally speaking if the law says it is legal to murder babies then you can legally murder them and not be tried for murder as long as you follow the legal procedures. However that does not keep murdering the unborn from being immoral – which it is. Legal just means the gub’ment says go ahead and do it and we will let it go. Immoral means go ahead and do it if you wish – God will be the final judge and jury.
rightwingextreme
January 25th, 2013
3:14 pm
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
3:03 pm
.isn’t abortion, while legal, still the murder of an unborn child?
to put it indelicately–isn’t hamburger, while legal, still the “murder” of a defenseless cow?
See, words have meanings. You toss a word like “murder” around like that and dumb down its meaning, you can expect to not be taken terribly seriously, and mocked.
If anything, dimlibs are the ones who’ve “dumbed down” the word murder. Your’s is the party that gets all fired up about turtle eggs being smashed because you believe a turtle is inside the egg, yet deny that a person is inside the mother’s womb.
That’s way beyond dumbed down….it’s evil twisted logic.
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
3:15 pm
I’ve brought it up numerous times and you’ve never denied that you made that comment.
I’ve told *you* on four previous occasions, in recent days, that I honestly had no idea what you’re talking about.
I’ve wracked my brain, and the only thing I can recall, vaguely, was lampooning some people’s horror/revulsion at a small percentage of Chinese-owned T-bills as fear of the “inscrutable Chinee.”
So I googled it and I actually found this, from back in Dec.:
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/12/07/economic-trends-bode-poorly-for-the-working-man/#comment-1168937
By some chance, is THAT what you’re claiming was “racist?” Really?
If so, it’s kind of weird that you said nothing about it at the time, in that thread anyway.
Regnad Kcin
January 25th, 2013
3:18 pm
“sanction of the murders of 55 million innocents.”
Once again, ask someone smarter than you what the word “murder” means.
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
3:19 pm
“There’s no such thing as an “unborn child.” Until the fetus is born, it’s not a “child.” And once it’s born, it’s no longer “unborn.”
False. There is no objective way of knowing that. I guess it all depends on where you are getting your “information” or “knowledge” or “understanding”. The Bible, for instance, plainly speaks of pregnant women being “with child”. The definitions follow from one’s worldview.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:20 pm
“Morality” — “Mama – I don’t know that much about Chambliss and his bum knee – in fact this is the first I have heard of it. If that is true how did Chambliss get past the military physical?”
Well, that’d be between him and his draft board. Maybe he did a Ted Nugent and crapped his drawers in the induction station so he wouldn’t have to go to ‘Nam.
“I guess Bush joined the guard to avoid Viet Nam – not to further any political career. That is my guess.”
I think a lot of guys did just that around that time, but some of them wound up going anyway. Going National Guard really isn’t a reliable way of avoiding service in a combat theater any more IMO. FWIW, after I left active duty, I transferred to an Army Reserve unit here in Georgia, and I was told that my first drill weekend would include a Class A uniform inspection. They told me not to worry about unit patches; that they’d square me away over the weekend, so I showed up with my “A”s on.
Imagine my surprise when I saw that everyone in my new Reserve unit had been to Desert Storm — and I hadn’t. They had combat patches and decorations for having been there, but not active-duty me, whose division just didn’t get sent.
FWIW, a young fellow who used to work for my wife was former Air Force who served a tour in Iraq. He figured he was safe until one day he and some other airmen from his section were eating in the chow tent and they heard a dull, metallic KA-CHINK about ten feet away. One of them looked, and sure enough, it was a dented and dinged-up DUD MORTAR ROUND the bad guys had obviously just fired at them, still smoking hot and fresh from the mortar tube. Right about that time, they started to hear automatic weapons fire around their base, and other *not dud* mortar rounds started coming down in the area, so lunch was definitely suspended while the attack was repelled.
This young fellow was, he told my wife, an Air Force *meteorologist.* A freakin’ *weatherman.* And he had an AQ mortar round drop ten feet from the table where he was eating chow. So clearly, there’s no such thing as a safe place any more when you’re in the theater of operations. And it doesn’t seem to matter if you’re active duty, Reserves or Guard, either.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
January 25th, 2013
3:21 pm
Thulsa, Stands has been asking you to provide proof for days.
RWE, yep, sorry to beak it to ya but we’re animals. We have blood pumping,and muscles and bones and all the same things that all the other mammals have too. I like to think that all living beings have some sort of soul.
BTB
January 25th, 2013
3:21 pm
Where is Cynthia?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 25th, 2013
3:21 pm
I am sure that someone pointed out to the cons that a Catholics hospital does not consider a fetus a human and thus it did not commit “murder”. Are they advocating for murder charges against those Catholic hospital officials?
Aquagirl
January 25th, 2013
3:22 pm
However that does not keep murdering the unborn from being immoral – which it is.
You’re on to something here. I’m sure I’ve had a couple of spontaneous abortions—give me a wingnut pro-zygote jury and I’ll take Jesus to the cleaners.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
January 25th, 2013
3:22 pm
“… The political fortunes of Democrats in general are improving but they haven’t improved quite enough in Georgia.”
Darn the luck. I guess over half our voters are still self-sufficient.
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
3:23 pm
RWE, I’ve obviously upset you since you apparently replied TWICE to the same post.
Good.
You’re right, a cow is nothing like an 8-week-old embryo. A cow can feel pain. A cow can communicate, has dreams, etc. We think absolutely nothing of “murdering” them, however, because they also taste pretty damn good.
You might want to think about that before you start sobbing and complaining that people like me don’t regard non-sentient embryonic life as American citizens. I don’t–far as I can tell, the vast majority of my countrymen don’t either. You want to call those 200 million or so people some varient of “Mengele” or “evil/twisted, if that makes you feel better.
Beyond that, if it bugs you that I had the temerity to compare an embryo to a cow, that’s just tough meat. Sometimes you gotta use brute rhetorical force.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:24 pm
R. W. Extreme — “You are aware that fetus is latin for offspring.”
So?
“So you’re telling me that five minutes before you slipped down your mom’s birth canal and out into the real world you weren’t a person…and then you were???”
Yep.
“Man, if you really believe that, you’re one sad puppy.”
Sad, in your opinion. Right, definitely.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:25 pm
“Morality” — “Immoral means go ahead and do it if you wish – God will be the final judge and jury.”
Cool. I get a pass, then.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
January 25th, 2013
3:26 pm
oh and RWE, when the human race is endangered and near extinct (which is why people show concern over turtle nests and protect the eggs) I’ll change my opinion and tell women that they can’t have abortions,. Until then, its their body and their choice.
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
3:27 pm
Thulsa, Stands has been asking you to provide proof for days.
And just so I’m clear, I’m not accusing “Thulsa Doom” of avoiding those requests. I figure people have complicated lives, they miss stuff, no biggee–it’s just kind of annoying to have to keep seeing this accusation, but no reply to my inquiries.
I just want to know what he’s actually talking about, because if he means that comment I made on Dec. 7, mocking the likes of Simpson/Bowles and their fans, that’s just ridiculous. For starters, the Chinese are not a race; and anyway, I don’t refer to them as “Chinee,” I’m just imagining that those who are terrified of Chinese ownership of a small percentage of T-bills, might.
Morality?
January 25th, 2013
3:27 pm
“Unborn child” is a term for a HUMAN fetus – meaning that what is aborted is a living human being and will become a human child if left alone. If you can change words around to mean something else why not “unborn child”. For example gay always meant happy until someone stole the word and it is now a slang word for homosexual. A human fetus is a human being – has human DNA – can’t be anything but human. Stick that one in your pipe and smoke it. If you want to kill human’s for your convenience just say so. Now I am not one that would say that a woman raped should be made to have the child – I couldn’t make that decision – but killing a human out of convenience because it will cramp your life style – that’s another matter that I can’t agree with. RESPONSIBILITY still means responsibility and most of the time YOU are responsible for your actions.
Regnad Kcin
January 25th, 2013
3:27 pm
“The Bible, for instance, plainly speaks of pregnant women being “with child”.”
…because the bible was written in english, right?
The Sheik
January 25th, 2013
3:28 pm
Our only hope for survival is to impose term limits. Either they nurture their constituents or they are replaced.
We must replace fat cat compromisers like Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:28 pm
Towncrier — “False.”
Rejected.
“There is no objective way of knowing that.”
Of course there is. There can be no “child” until said “child” exists as an individual.
“I guess it all depends on where you are getting your “information” or “knowledge” or “understanding”.
That’s correct.
“The Bible, for instance, plainly speaks of pregnant women being “with child”. The definitions follow from one’s worldview.”
I’m not constrained by your bible, and I think you know that already.
Kevin
January 25th, 2013
3:28 pm
You wrote at 11:25 a.m., “He’ll probably also tell us that if he had wanted to run again, he’s certain that he would have won.”
Indeed. Jim Galloway’s 9:42 a.m. article that YOU linked to included that exact phrase, which was extracted from Saxby’s press release. Did you even read the article you referenced?
Are you ever embarrassed to introduce yourself as a “journalist” when you meet someone new? Or does “angry, miserable, barely-literate jackass” just not roll off the tongue as easily?
George Watson
January 25th, 2013
3:29 pm
OK… now the boondoggle left turn for Chip Rogers playing Radio Personality at GPB begins to make some sense… if there ever was any sense to be had in it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 25th, 2013
3:29 pm
Peadawg @ 3:07
Exactly ! Hypocrisy at its worst !!
TBS
January 25th, 2013
3:30 pm
Many people certainly do, but I wonder how many of our bloggers who are adamant against abortion have ever adopted a child, counseled unwed teens, has been a foster parent, etc.
Kudos to those of you who have done so, but I doubt there are as many walking the walk as those talking the talk.
td
January 25th, 2013
3:31 pm
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
3:00 pm
They have a actual show on TV called Smackdown. Also, one of their biggest entertainers has coined a saying that if another entertainer gets in the ring with him then he is going to “layith the Smackdown on him”.
this is not the sort of thing that I would necessarily acknowledge knowing about in a forum like this.
Why not. The entertainers on there are much closer to the truth then many of the leftest bloggers on this blog.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 25th, 2013
3:31 pm
JHM
As long as God hits you in the hands with that pass
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
3:32 pm
what is aborted is a living human being and will become a human child if left alone.
Left alone?
Boy, you sure have laid it out plain as day what you think of the incubators condemned to carry each and every one of those “children” to term.
Fred ™
January 25th, 2013
3:32 pm
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
3:10 pm
“I said I not God, wish that liars would just die…But thank you for your sermon. I’m sure it made logical sense to someone.”
Part of what I was implying is that may well be someone else – at this very moment – wishing verbally abusive people like yourself
+++++++++++++++++++++++
i’m verbally abusive because I despise liars and I tell the truth? Really? I looked up the definition of verbally abusive and I didn’t see that.
So your contention is that it’s verbally abusive to call out liars and show the proof that they ARE liars? Really? It’s verbally abusive to tell the truth? Really? I would think that only a serial liar would hold that view. I mean if someone saw me and called me fat, they wouldn’t be verbally abusive, they would be telling the truth.
Damn son, thta was weak, really weak……..
Regnad Kcin
January 25th, 2013
3:32 pm
“…a human being – has human DNA – can’t be anything but human.”
So anything with human DNA is human life?
Doggone/GA
January 25th, 2013
3:33 pm
“Our only hope for survival is to impose term limits. Either they nurture their constituents or they are replaced.”
We already have term limits. They’re called “elections” If the voters are stupid enough to keep returning bad legislators to office…well, they get the represenation they deserve
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
3:33 pm
The entertainers on there are much closer to the truth then many of the leftest bloggers on this blog.
I was mostly just joshin’. More than a few folks have drawn a direct line between pro wrestling and what passes for political discourse on the TeeVee, after all.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:34 pm
“Morality” — ““Unborn child” is a term for a HUMAN fetus”
Not to me.
“meaning that what is aborted is a living human being and will become a human child if left alone.”
Will become does not equal is right now.
“If you can change words around to mean something else why not “unborn child”.
You just changed “will become” into ‘is right now.’ You’re clearly the one ‘changing words around.’
“A human fetus is a human being – has human DNA – can’t be anything but human. Stick that one in your pipe and smoke it.”
Human cancer cells have human DNA, too. So by your logic, cancer can’t be anything but human. So stick *that* in your pipe and smoke it.
“If you want to kill human’s for your convenience just say so.”
If you have to make things up to support your point, you don’t really have a point.
“Now I am not one that would say that “a woman raped should be made to have the child – I couldn’t make that decision – but killing a human out of convenience because it will cramp your life style – that’s another matter that I can’t agree with.”
When did I say any such thing?
“RESPONSIBILITY still means responsibility and most of the time YOU are responsible for your actions.”
Of course. I haven’t asked you or anyone else to take responsibility for them. However, since I take responsibility for my own actions, they’re not really anything that you have any control or authority over.
josef
January 25th, 2013
3:35 pm
Just my opinion, but the GOP might want to check in with Bibi…
And Newt?
Anglo-Saxon expletives deleted…
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:35 pm
C. Sense — “As long as God hits you in the hands with that pass”
I don’t think he plays on my team.
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
3:36 pm
“Legally speaking if the law says it is legal to murder babies then you can legally murder them and not be tried for murder as long as you follow the legal procedures. However that does not keep murdering the unborn from being immoral – which it is. Legal just means the gub’ment says go ahead and do it and we will let it go. Immoral means go ahead and do it if you wish – God will be the final judge and jury.”
Interestingly (or perhaps sadly), to your point, apparently “non-voluntary euthanasia” (or what some are calling infanticide) is being permitted across the ocean:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_euthanasia#The_Netherlands
I think this kind of substantiates your point. The “legality” and “morality” of killing another human being lies in its justification (valid or not). Infanticide was indeed “legal” in ancient times (as was governments murdering millions upon millions of people in the 20th century – lest anyone think such things are in the past).
josef
January 25th, 2013
3:37 pm
FRED
@ 3:32
Do the term delusional lickspittal ring a bell…
Fred ™
January 25th, 2013
3:37 pm
Morality: I just read your post on Al Gore and his military service, I don’t know how I missed it before. I have to say sir that I think you are so far wrong on that that there isn’t an argument to the contrary. I really DON’T like Al Gore. I don’t like his politics. I think he is a disingenuous far left wing nutcase. In other words, he says the words but doesn’t walk the walk. But his military service? As a war protestor he JOINED the Army so that someone else wouldn’t be sent in his place. After his father was defeated he DID get to Vietnam.
I’m short of time, but I think you should research Gore’s time in the Army. Like I said, I despise the man and his politics, but I very much admire his military service, his reasons for joining, and his conduct while in the Army. I can’t say the same about John Kerry but that’s a discussion for a different day. One where I can answer the howls of Jamvet lol.
Morality?
January 25th, 2013
3:39 pm
Mama – National Guard during Viet Nam was a pass to stay out of Viet Nam. Today it’s a different story. Some of these politician’s kids were to stupid to get in to college and back then social promotion didn’t work on college. So the Guard was just another loop hole to keep Congress’s kids out of Viet Nam. It was hard to get in the Guard back then because so many wanted to avoid Viet Nam so it took political pull to get you in but once in you were safe. The Guard back then was meant for defense of the USA on USA soil and they weren’t sent over seas. As for a free pass on immoral acts – I don’t think you get a free ride just because you are a no believer. God is real even if you choose not to believe so. I know God is real from personal experience. No doubt in my mind. For your own sake try to have an open mind.
TBS
January 25th, 2013
3:39 pm
josef
Bibi took a hit but hung on.
You think he will cozy up to the “moderates”, “hardliners” or some coalition of both?
rightwingextreme
January 25th, 2013
3:40 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:25 pm
“Morality” — “Immoral means go ahead and do it if you wish – God will be the final judge and jury.”
Cool. I get a pass, then
Are you Muslim?
Aquagirl
January 25th, 2013
3:40 pm
Poor Morality. Stuck with his opinion and no way he can force it on everyone. Reduced to shrieking on blogs.
On the other hand one of my zygotes murdered by Jesus might have turned out like that, so maybe He does know best.
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
3:41 pm
“We already have term limits.”
Geez…here we go again with this less-than-circumspect meme. We also have the 22nd amendment (which, kind of contradicts and undermines your position). And for those to whom polls matter, there’s this:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/throw-bums-75-back-congress-term-limits-195900088–politics.html
Paul
January 25th, 2013
3:41 pm
stands for decibels
“See, words have meanings. You toss a word like “murder” around like that and dumb down its meaning, you can expect to not be taken terribly seriously, and mocked.”
Same goes when you replace ‘murder’ with ‘child.’ Only difference some here can do an adequate job defining what murder is but they”ve no idea what a child is.
Fred ™
January 25th, 2013
3:42 pm
LOL josef. Hi josef, bye josef. I’ve been invited to go drinking so I’m out of here. (Better yet, my buddy is paying). Anyone can come join us. Just ask Kam where I am, he’s been there before lol.
Someone play some Everly Brothers for Redneck Convert. I did earlier but I think he missed it.
Oh and Josef, I have a Cherokee keyboard on my i5 lol. If we ever meet remind me to show it to you. It looks like there are 2 W’s and 2 G’s they are only slightly different. Must be confusing if someone has poor handwriting lol.
rightwingextreme
January 25th, 2013
3:42 pm
Aquagirl
January 25th, 2013
3:40 pm
Poor Morality. Stuck with his opinion and no way he can force it on everyone. Reduced to shrieking on blogs.
On the other hand one of my zygotes murdered by Jesus might have turned out like that, so maybe He does know best.
poor lib…can’t win at the poles….have to push their agenda through the courts.
btw…Jesus has never murdered anyone.
Rabbit
January 25th, 2013
3:43 pm
Jawja. My, my. Just when Sen. Chambliss begins to see the incredible responsibility of a US Senator, the party to whom he has shown so much fealty allows their peanut gallery to kick him to the curb. Or is it that the senator doesn’t want history to paint him as just another teacake?
I swear if the all powerful Republican Party of Georgia allows itself to be deconstructed (much the way the national party has done) by the lunatic fringe, it will be the greatest choke since the 2011 Braves.
I am sure there are decent people who subscribe to the “government and taxes are bad” mantra of all things tea. But as a somewhat detached political observer, it seems many are in financial distress without significant job stability and their families run as can only happen under the authoritarian follower structure. They can shout out every word of the standard diatribe on government handouts and 2nd amendment rights, but are generally uninformed about the drastic assault on the 4th amendment over the last 12 years.
All that said, I’m surprised Jim Marshall’s name wasn’t part of the discussion. The most conservative democrat to have recently held office, he might pull from the legions of common sense Republicans – and they are available.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 25th, 2013
3:43 pm
TBS
Bibi took a hit but hung on
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But did he inhale, don’t bogart that thing
td
January 25th, 2013
3:44 pm
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
3:19 pm
“There’s no such thing as an “unborn child.” Until the fetus is born, it’s not a “child.” And once it’s born, it’s no longer “unborn.”
False. There is no objective way of knowing that. I guess it all depends on where you are getting your “information” or “knowledge” or “understanding”. The Bible, for instance, plainly speaks of pregnant women being “with child”. The definitions follow from one’s worldview.
Isn’t funny that these same people that want to deny the unborn is alive will argue till they are blue in the face that global warming is man made. There is way more scientific evidence that the unborn is alive then man makes the temperature rise.
tom gambeski
January 25th, 2013
3:44 pm
Jay,The reason you believe the Republican Party’s moving to the right is that the Democrat Party’s moving to the left at warp speed under Obama’s socialistic policies.
TBS
January 25th, 2013
3:45 pm
TC
Don’t speak too much about polls. If I am not mistaken, you went right down those same rabbit holes as td regarding the polling conspiracies (LIES) that ran in right wing publications
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
3:46 pm
they”ve no idea what a child is.
I’ve suggested they substitute the term “child” with “future terrorist”, or “future 47% moocher”, but that doesn’t appear to be catching on.
/drive-by
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
3:48 pm
“Of course there is. There can be no “child” until said “child” exists as an individual.”
Fail. Please familiarize yourself with the meaning of “objective” and then consider auditing a course on semantics.
Morality?
January 25th, 2013
3:48 pm
FRED (TM) Guess you missed it – the correspondence papers and letters between Egore and daddy explained exactly why daddy wanted Egore to join the service and Egore agreed that it would be good for his poiltical career for him to go. That came out a long time ago. Daddy wanted his son to be Prez since daddy actually ran for Prez and didn’t get there. Egore wanted to be Prez even at that early age. All of this is in their writings. Egore never denied it.
Paul
January 25th, 2013
3:48 pm
TBS
“What is up with the Catholics now saying a fetus is not a person?”
Given the track record, it’s be a few years before fundamentalists and evangelicals catch up.
And a few decades for some of our blogger friends -
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:49 pm
“Morality” — “Mama – National Guard during Viet Nam was a pass to stay out of Viet Nam.”
The Guard back then was meant for defense of the USA on USA soil and they weren’t sent over seas.”
Really?
http://www.ngef.org/index.asp?bid=48
“As for a free pass on immoral acts – I don’t think you get a free ride just because you are a no believer.”
Rejected. Consider this:
Do you sin against Islam when you eat pork? No? Why?
Do you sin against Judaism when you do work on a Saturday? No? Why?
So why would you think that I’m sinning against your god when I’m not an adherent of your religion?
“God is real”
So you say.
“even if you choose not to believe so.”
Sorry, nothing doing.
“I know God is real from personal experience.”
Then I encourage you to pursue your religion in whatever way you wish.
“No doubt in my mind. For your own sake try to have an open mind.”
You, too. Maybe you could have an open mind about Judaism or Islam. For all you know, they’re right and you’re wrong.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think
January 25th, 2013
3:50 pm
AW, come on all y’all…y’all really need to get some…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA42VrqGKd4
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:50 pm
R. W. Extreme — “Are you Muslim?”
No.
TBS
January 25th, 2013
3:50 pm
Paul
I haven’t researched the issue. Was that a proclamation that was made via an attorney in court or in a deposition?
Regnad Kcin
January 25th, 2013
3:51 pm
“btw…Jesus has never murdered anyone”
…as far as you know…
Pizzaman
January 25th, 2013
3:52 pm
Ole Sax must want one of them GPB jobs before they’re all gone!
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:52 pm
td — “Isn’t funny that these same people that want to deny the unborn is alive”
FAIL.
I didn’t make any claim about “alive” or not. You need to pay closer attention to what others actually write.
Mr. Thomas Anthony Jones, SR
January 25th, 2013
3:52 pm
Reed in 2014. Adhe’s mrs.Clinton’s Veep in the 2016 Presidential Election.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 25th, 2013
3:53 pm
JHM
I wanted to open an Outback Steakhouse in Bangalore, but someone told me it was a bad idea.
I wonder why?
Redcoat
January 25th, 2013
3:53 pm
Is the majority always correct? If the majority is corrupt and dependent, then what will be the result? Are we there yet?
Aquagirl
January 25th, 2013
3:53 pm
poor lib…can’t win at the poles….
I’m pretty certain a ballot on legal birth control would pass in any State. But yeah, I’d prefer sticking with courts instead of folks unable to spell “polls.”
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:53 pm
Towncrier — “Fail.”
Rejected.
“Please familiarize yourself with the meaning of “objective” and then consider auditing a course on semantics.”
After you, sir.
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
3:53 pm
“Don’t speak too much about polls.”
I don’t – re-read my post. I only included the poll results for the benefit of those liberals who want to argue “we all ready have term limits” for those in Congress when, technically speaking, we do not (in case referring them to the 22nd Amendment has no effect on their thinking).
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
3:54 pm
“Rejected.”
Fail.
“After you, sir.”
Age before beauty.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:55 pm
Towncrier — “Age before beauty”
In which case you’d never get to go.
rightwingextreme
January 25th, 2013
3:56 pm
Regnad Kcin
January 25th, 2013
3:51 pm
“btw…Jesus has never murdered anyone”
…as far as you know…
I can guarantee you He hasn’t murdered anyone based on the authority of the Bible.
Morality?
January 25th, 2013
4:00 pm
Mama – a human fetus has human DNA – and will never be anything else but human. That is a scientific fact. Human cancer cells are mutated cells. Cancer cells in humans also have human DNA but that they will never be a human child. Trying to make this real simple for you here. You already know all of this of course but you refuse to agree because you will lose the debate. Killing a human fetus is killing a human being. I did not say murder because murder is a legal term.
josef
January 25th, 2013
4:00 pm
FRED
Will be getting back with you on the Cherokee keyboard…interesting things with them and that…
TBS
I’m making no predictions there! This, for those who follow it, is going to be very interesting. Bibi and Lapid either one could have 60 seats, but it’ll take 61 at the very least, and, well..wild cards are trumps it looks like….
One thing does seem to be clear, though, the voters are tired of the status quo….
TBS
January 25th, 2013
4:00 pm
TC
You are correct, we do not. But if the voters want to “term limit” any given official, they can vote him out.
But “term limits” in a sense that says a Senator or Congressmen can only serve so many terms, nope
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
4:01 pm
“What is up with the Catholics now saying a fetus is not a person?”
Well, in truth the “Church” never really paid all that close attention to the Scriptures to begin with. So no surprise there. And certainly no surprise to those nominally religious people who think that Christianity should exactly reflect the mores of civilization.
Regnad Kcin
January 25th, 2013
4:03 pm
“I can guarantee you He hasn’t murdered anyone based on the authority of the Bible.”
1) Where does it say that?
2) Maybe he snuck away one time when the author wasn’t looking.
TBS
January 25th, 2013
4:05 pm
TC
I will add that it imo it is an excuse when people who want term limits, continue to vote for the same person because they might have to vote across party lines or for a 3rd party candidate.
Tea Party has done a good job of “term limiting” a few Republicans.
Democrats unfortunately did it to Lieberman and fortunately did it to Cynthia McKinney.
So “term limits” while not on the books, they do occur from time to time.
Aquagirl
January 25th, 2013
4:05 pm
I can guarantee you He hasn’t murdered anyone based on the authority of the Bible.
I thought con logic was abortion = murder. I dunno where you’re going with that, unless it’s my fault my child died because I didn’t implant the egg in a Bible or something.
TBS
January 25th, 2013
4:06 pm
josef
I read an article that Bibi while winning is still in the “crossfire” and will have to be on his A game when he forms his coalition that will be needed to get much done.
td
January 25th, 2013
4:07 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
3:52 pm
td — “Isn’t funny that these same people that want to deny the unborn is alive”
FAIL.
I didn’t make any claim about “alive” or not. You need to pay closer attention to what others actually write.
Did I call you out by name? Now that we are on the subject. If they are “alive” then it must be a child and therefore if the child is killed then it is homicide.
what a country
January 25th, 2013
4:07 pm
good riddance as Jay said a rino lets get a conservative in there
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
4:07 pm
Wow. Here is an interesting read:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2013/01/28/gun-laws-and-the-fools-of-chelm-by-david-mamet.html
Perhaps before some of those posting here might want to read this in preparation:
http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-03-11/news/why-i-am-no-longer-a-brain-dead-liberal/
josef
January 25th, 2013
4:08 pm
It’s FNM at Big Daddy’s…for real at Big Daddy’s…