With ‘Taxby’ gone, Tea Party tacks new RINO hide to wall
As my colleague Jim Galloway first reported, U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss will soon announce that he will not seek re-election in 2014.
Georgia conservatives are already taking credit for the decision, arguing that they pushed “Taxby” into retirement. And they probably did. The senator has a very conservative voting record, but not conservative enough for many in his party. His admission that maybe, just maybe, the Republicans would have to accept higher taxes as a necessary evil made him unacceptable in their eyes, guaranteeing a bitter primary fight.
I doubt Chambliss will admit that internal party dissent played a role in his decision. He might say that by announcing so early, he allows himself to devote the next two years to trying to solve problems in Washington. He’ll probably also tell us that if he had wanted to run again, he’s certain that he would have won.
However, few will believe him, and his departure marks another step in his party’s inexorable march to the right.
The announcement also sets off a free-for-all among Georgia congressmen, who are all too aware that an open Senate seat doesn’t come along very often. As they give up their seats to run, that in turn will create ripples in the Georgia General Assembly, as legislators position themselves to fill those vacancies. It promises to be quite the scene, with GOP Senate hopefuls competing with each other for the title of most-diehard-conservative-ever-ever-ever.
And as an added attraction? As the AJC’s Dan Malloy tweets from Washington, a spokesman for Newt Gingrich may be cracking the door open a bit, observing that “Newt might be on Medicare, but he is not ready for the retirement home.” As you recall, Gingrich won the Georgia presidential primary by 20 percentage points. He had ruled out running in a primary against Chambliss, but this could change things.
(Personally, I think a Gingrich run is unlikely. But in a second tweet, Malloy reports that “Expecting a statement from @NewtGingrich on #GASen today after he speaks with his wife.” UPDATE 12:34: A Gingrich spokesman now says that the former speaker “will not be a candidate in the 2014 GOP Senate primary.”)
On the Democratic side, the promise of a hard-fought, expensive, blood-letting GOP primary, with the process almost certain to produce a candidate much more conservative than the conservative Chambliss, may create a small window of opportunity.
No, the timing isn’t perfect. The demographics of the state may be changing, but they haven’t quite changed enough. The political fortunes of Democrats in general are improving, but they haven’t improved quite enough in Georgia. And the party infrastructure in much of the state is abysmal. Nonetheless, the right Democratic candidate, with the right campaign and message and against the right opponent, could potentially accelerate the process by a cycle or two.
And who might fit the bill as the “right Democratic candidate”? The list is pretty short. U.S. Rep. John Barrow, the only white southern Democrat remaining in the House, has already announced he won’t run for Senate. State Sen. Jason Carter of Decatur has a bright future, but youth and relative inexperience would make victory difficult. And while Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed is probably the party’s best hope in a statewide race, it would be a big political risk even for him.
– Jay Bookman
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alex
January 25th, 2013
1:53 pm
Jay same old tiresome rhetoric, speculative gibberish, you ARE bored, looks to me that J. Dupree may be the columnist to go with: clinical,objective and newsworthy, Jay will show up in People magazine or the same….Ga. will get the Senator the majority of people want, democracy, there it is warts and all, all the whining and cussing and racial garbage aside-the people speak,….
Jay, sometimes the glass is half FULL…yes that may not rouse your syncophants, but it will break your boredom to have to think outside your severe bias, try it..I double dog dare you…..
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 25th, 2013
1:54 pm
jconservative
January 25th, 2013
1:50 pm
Suggest strongly you rush and don your combat gear…you are about to get pasted with irrelevant personal attacks….if indeed you are suggesting that group was the better candidate..perhaps I’m mis representing your intent?
Daedalus
January 25th, 2013
1:54 pm
Must be that old knee injury flaring up. Well, at least he has knees.
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
1:54 pm
Would it sound silly if I said “Every Supreme Court justice who’s on the losing side in a 5-4 decision is no constitutional scholar”?
Well yes, Paul, it would. But you appear to have a sense of shame and of self-respect, and you don’t generally repeat foolish things once you’ve learned that they are foolish.
Alberto
January 25th, 2013
1:56 pm
“Oy vey, our blog self-proclaimed “constitutional scholars” talking about how Obama may not know the constitution.”
Basta with the Yiddish (as if such expressions really mean anything to the 98% of Americans who are not Jewish). Of course, if one’s purpose is NOT communication – then, hey, whatever floats your boat.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 25th, 2013
1:57 pm
Pea, I would have no problem in fixing a dysfunctional congress. But a simple “good/bad” claim, especially ignoring the Constitution is about as sensible as a “one page law” limit or “bumper sticker = policy” solution.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
1:57 pm
“Morality” — “However what Obama is doing is as Jay say’s a “technical” impeachable offense.”
How, exactly, is it impeachable?
“Obama should quit skirting the power of Congress and the Constitution. Lack of patience is a poor excuse to violate the law.”
He’s not violating the law, the Constitution or the “power of Congress.” Article 2, Section 2 of the Constitution clearly gives the President the power and authority to make recess appointments.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/art2frag27_user.html#pg521
The legal issue in play here is whether or not Congress’ pro forma sessions, in which no actual business is to be conducted, satisfy the requirements of Congress actually *being in session* in order to prevent a President from making recess appointments or pocket-vetoes of legislation.
http://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/pro_forma_session.htm
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
1:57 pm
the Democrats would have to accept spending cuts as a necessary evil to jump start the economy…
Spending cuts. To jump start the economy.
The stupid is like an eternal flame, it seems.
Fred ™
January 25th, 2013
1:59 pm
weetamoe
January 25th, 2013
1:34 pm
Hey, I did not hear Rush and had no idea that the word *smackdown* had been copyrighted by Fox radio. The response *foxbots* to every comment one disagrees with is the equivalent of one covering ears with hands and chanting la la la
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
What is sad is that you accept every FOXBOT lie so readily that you expect us ALL to accept lies.
I don’t give a damn how much you lie, I’m not believing that THREE of you ass clowns come on here with the same change of topic story using the same damn phrase by coincidence. It is not statistically probable.
Why do you have to lie? Just admit, hey, I got this from………… it doesn’t make a story any more or less true, it just improves your CREDIBILITY. Right now, all three of you have ZERO credibility. Well two of you do. vinny ain’t spoke up. He might actually be man enough to say he where he got it from.
The story itself is very valid and I personally think it deserves a “blog.” You three lying about where you heard it from is just pathetic, but par for the course. And you will wonder why we INDEPENDENTS don’t trust you………
Mick
January 25th, 2013
2:00 pm
alex
You need to step down off the high horse you ride in on; as if your hypocrisy smells any less worse than others…
Morality?
January 25th, 2013
2:00 pm
Mick – Can you prove it was a lie? Both Houses of Congress, even the Dems, voted to go into Iraq. Obviously they believed that there weapons of mass destruction. Did we need to go in to Iraq knowing what we know now? Maybe not. That is hindsight. Also there is this – just because they didn’t find weapons did not mean there weren’t any. I wish we weren’t in Afghanistan now – waste of lives and money and in my opinion a wasted cause. As soon as Obama pulls us out those loyal to the U.S. will be slaughtered, just like they were in Nam, and every thing will return to business as usual. The enemy is there to stay – we aren’t.
williebkind
January 25th, 2013
2:01 pm
So Saxby decided to turn in his republican disguise and go drink whiskey on the front porch. I will drink to that! I sure hope the Tea Party gets credit for this. It would be a feather in their cap.
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
2:03 pm
“Ok, so for any hard-right guys who HAVEN’T posted some gratuitous off-topic comment about the court decision, please turn in your Man Card.”
Hmm…are we being a bit touchy? GOP-bashing by Jay and his loyal minions is perfectly fine (I don’t recall seeing any complaints about that from the left), but any “negative press” about Obama or Democrats should be kept to a minimum (or censored entirely). I do credit Jay with allowing a great deal of free speech here. He has Kyle beat hands down in that department.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
2:04 pm
“Morality” — “Withholding Congress’s pay until they actually do their job would be a partial solution to reducing this Fed Debt and should be considered seriously.”
That may actually *be* unconstitutional ,depending on how they want to do it.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/24/16681012-is-the-gop-plan-to-withhold-congressional-pay-constitutional?lite
TaxPayer
January 25th, 2013
2:05 pm
IF you’ll tell me where we’re going to get the other $907B to get us out of deficit spending.
That’s easy. Send the Republicans the bill for the Iraq War.
Morality?
January 25th, 2013
2:06 pm
Chambliss is getting old and tired and he has enough sense to know when it is time to go. TERM LIMITS to weed out the PARTY LOYALISTS controlling Congress.
Mick
January 25th, 2013
2:07 pm
morality
Not going to refight that argument but we did have weapons inspectors in iraq who were allowed to search anywhere they wanted and found nothing. They told us not to invade without the evidence but rumsfield said he knew where they were – lie! Bottom line they wanted war and warned of mushroom clouds, yellow cake uranium, and hundreds of thousands of deaths occurred, now thats a real crime!!!
Skip
January 25th, 2013
2:08 pm
Obama dodged Viet Nam? Who knew?
Morality?
January 25th, 2013
2:08 pm
HEH – JAY said that what Obama did was unconstitutional – that should be enough for you since Jay is an expert on every thing. I will take his word for it.
JamVet
January 25th, 2013
2:10 pm
Morality, if you had even the tiniest amount of intellectually honesty, even you could figure out the difference between those two men.
But you don’t. So you won’t.
Let me help you, son.
For the word COURAGE to ever leave that Saxby POS’s lips still utterly amazes me. What does that girly fatass know about courage???
Max Cleland constantly fought for and was beloved by Georgia veterans.
Saxby is a disgusting, draft dodging COWARD who more than few Georgia veterans would love to meet in a dark alley.
That you think Obama is even in the same league as that gutless t*rd from Warrenton, NC says pretty much everything there is to know about you, your filthy ideology and how you condone asswipes disrespecting veterans.
But as you will always love and defend your Republican swiftboaters who spit on valorous combat veterans, you’ll play stupid to perfection, like you always do.
Saxby is NOT the problem in this gutless state. The people who vote for him are…
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
2:12 pm
“Obama dodged Viet Nam? Who knew?”
He was ineligible for the draft, silly – not yet being born in Kenya.
TaxPayer
January 25th, 2013
2:12 pm
All together now! Who! let the cons out! …do…..do..do…do…
Fred ™
January 25th, 2013
2:14 pm
It’s now officially double points weekend. I’ll see you all Sunday……. well unless I make Prestige Master before then…….
Just remember, there is a soldier in all of us:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pblj3JHF-Jo
Jerome Horwitz
January 25th, 2013
2:14 pm
When are you people going to realize that Jay is a columnist that leans left. His responsibilty is to focus opinio from a liberal point. If you don’t like it please take you business with like minded at Wingfield’s column. If you have divergent opinions please fell free to express them intelligently. But stop the character smears. It doesn’t make look smarter. Although with some that wouldn’t be hard.
JamVet
January 25th, 2013
2:14 pm
Both Houses of Congress, even the Dems, voted to go into Iraq.
More simplistic claptrap.
GOP votes to let the Worst ever botch and invasion and occupation – 97%
NINETY SEVEN PERCENT!!!
Democrats who voted yes – 43%.
Left up to the Dems, the Greatest F Ups in Modern American History could not have gotten all of those Americans KIA’d needlessly.
And you wonder why you have gotten your sorry asses kicked in three of the past four elections?
Get used to it. That trend is just getting started, fake conservatives…
WAW
January 25th, 2013
2:14 pm
I’m thinking that this would be the time for the Georgia Democrats to participate in the Republican primary in a “Block Vote” manner to prevent a Tea Party victory. Jay is right that no Democrat has any chance of winning a Georgia statewide election now. The folks on the right have yet to experience the effects austerity budgets (the UK just hit recession # 3 and the EU might not be too far behind). Until all this crap hits voter’s pocketbooks they will continue to vote against abortion, M-16 Knockoff control, anybody not WASP, and for whomever they are told.
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
2:15 pm
Hmm…are we being a bit touchy? GOP-bashing by Jay and his loyal minions is perfectly fine (I don’t recall seeing any complaints about that from the left), but any “negative press” about Obama or Democrats should be kept to a minimum (or censored entirely
Why no, I’m not the least bit touchy, TC. I do think, however, that when two or three guys have already posted “hey, did you see THIS? Isn’t this an amazing story?” seemingly unaware that it’s already had some airing… it’s point-and-chuckle-worthy, is all.
and if you see lefties pulling the same chuckleworthy move, by all means, enjoy some larfs yourself.
JamVet
January 25th, 2013
2:16 pm
OK, I’m gonna step out for awhile, before I really tell these swiftboating GOP corksoakers what I think of them and their beloved Saxby!
Seeya at FNM…
Morality?
January 25th, 2013
2:16 pm
Skip – no one said any thing about Obama dodging service or did I miss it? Any way he was a bit young for Viet Nam. Just pointed out that Obama did not serve in the military when some one on here called “W” a coward for not serving. Not serving does not necessarily make you a coward any more than serving makes you a non coward. Back then you could get drafted – they did not exempt cowards. After all Al Gore served in the film room during Viet Nam but never saw combat ’cause his daddy was a Senator. His daddy advised Gore to serve ’cause it would be good on his political resume. Daddy also made sure Al was far from harm.
td
January 25th, 2013
2:16 pm
Fred ™
January 25th, 2013
1:59 pm
“Why do you have to lie? Just admit, hey, I got this from………… it doesn’t make a story any more or less true, it just improves your CREDIBILITY. Right now, all three of you have ZERO credibility. Well two of you do. vinny ain’t spoke up. He might actually be man enough to say he where he got it from.”
“The story itself is very valid and I personally think it deserves a “blog.” You three lying about where you heard it from is just pathetic, but par for the course. And you will wonder why we INDEPENDENTS don’t trust you………”
First you ASSume three people heard the word “Smackdown” on Rush or on Fox without any evidence and now when two of the three called you out you call us liars again without one piece of proof or evidence.
I feel sorry for such a pitiful small human being that has to think they are the bully of a freaking blog and has to obviously show the lack of intelligence by having to stoop to name calling and abusive type language.
alex
January 25th, 2013
2:16 pm
Mick, do you actually READ my comments with anything close to an open mind ? Goodness , did a burr get under your saddle, goodness, you of the “foxbot”, “ass clowns”. This blog has become a warm box for the Left (add a few objective people to get abused) to have their preconceptions of conservatives massaged into the holy truth by Jay’s syncophants…. Personally, I learn from you guys ,gives me a accurate impression of the Dem base…Helps in discussions, THANKS!
Regnad Kcin
January 25th, 2013
2:17 pm
“Withholding Congress’s pay until they actually do their job would be a partial solution to reducing this Fed Debt and should be considered seriously. ”
According to many conservatives on this site, any solution, such as the one proposed above, must COMPLETELY eliminate the deficit, or it may not be considered. I offer as an example example the rejection above of cutting the 5% of the budget going to “corporate welfare” – the response to which was, “but, but, but, that won’t reduce the deficit to zero!”
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
2:18 pm
“But as you will always love and defend your Republican swiftboaters who spit on valorous combat veterans, you’ll play stupid to perfection, like you always do.”
Let’s see if I have this straight, JV. All military veterans who served in combat are worthy of respect, but some are more worthy than others – especially when they “spit” on their comrades (or perhaps denigrate their service to a government expecting insanely unrealistic things from them before Congress).
TaxPayer
January 25th, 2013
2:18 pm
Word on the street is that Saxby wants to put his bronzed body to work in a different career. I think he should talk old Boehner into joining him.
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
2:19 pm
TC, one other thing:
I do credit Jay with allowing a great deal of free speech here. He has Kyle beat hands down in that department.
I’ll actually defend Kyle a bit, here. He’s tried to establish specific rules of engagement and expects people to obey them.
I’ve read his rules, they don’t seem unreasonable to me. Not saying I’d rather post there — I’m only an occasional visitor — but I have no problem with how he’s maintained his comments threads, in my limited experience anyway.
Dawg'88
January 25th, 2013
2:19 pm
What a shock…the ajc has no coverage of the March for Life.
Even though there are more prolife protestors than attendees of the inauguration of the leader of the Culture of Death. The Abortion president is more important than stopping the dismemberment of 55,000,000 babies.
Sad….lift up the immoral. Ignore those fighting for Truth and Life of God’s children. Obama supports the killing of babies all the way to birth. Amazing that he is glorified by this paper and those who support his immoral agenda. My savior is Jesus Christ….so sorry that yours is Obama.
God Help The Unborn Be Saved from politicians like him.
And help him to repent of his sinful ways.
Obama will not defend the unborn….Will You?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
2:22 pm
Morality — ” After all Al Gore served in the film room during Viet Nam but never saw combat ’cause his daddy was a Senator. His daddy advised Gore to serve ’cause it would be good on his political resume. Daddy also made sure Al was far from harm.”
On the scale of danger, Vietnam > Texas.
I don’t care if Mr. Bush held the most dangerous post in the entire Texas Air National Guard; wherever he served and whatever he did, he was a heck of a lot safer than Al Gore was in ‘Nam.
Mick
January 25th, 2013
2:23 pm
alex
Thanks for the confirmation, your arrogance proceeds you. If you actually have something of intelligence to offer – great! However, you come at as some kind of lofty authority with contempt for all the others of a differring view to be somewhat beneath you, it’s a drag…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 25th, 2013
2:24 pm
Jay, to jump back to your prior thread regarding the RNC proposals to the EC, one thing I was aware of:
the National Popular Vote interstate compact, an agreement among states to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide. If states with more than half of all electoral votes sign up for this, it goes into effect.
So far, only nine states with a total of 132 electoral votes have signed up [but that is 49% of the 270 EV's needed. ]
The GOP may bring about the effective demise of the EC. http://www.nationalpopularvote.com
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
2:24 pm
“First you ASSume three people heard the word “Smackdown” on Rush or on Fox without any evidence and now when two of the three called you out you call us liars again without one piece of proof or evidence.”
Well, you know, the word is SUCH a rarely used one (whoever, after all, speaks of “smackdowns” in their daily conversations?), one can certainly see why Fred (who by all appearances is very gracious and NEVER falsely accuses anyone of anything, who NEVER becomes almost unhinged or uses crude and offensive language) would suspect you are misrepresenting the truth.
Jm
January 25th, 2013
2:24 pm
Reed might run
I doubt he wins
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
2:24 pm
Dawg’88 — “Sad….lift up the immoral. Ignore those fighting for Truth and Life of God’s children.”
Blogspot.com is ready when you are.
Jm
January 25th, 2013
2:25 pm
I hope Sam olens runs and wins
Morality?
January 25th, 2013
2:28 pm
JV – good riddance – and run on off – you aren’t anything but a pimp for the left. Your name calling doesn’t bother me. Evidently you had to leave to pick up your PROZAC prescription and to visit your SHRINK. Suggest you change ’cause it’s not working so well for you. I never called ANYONE a coward – not even Obama. YOU DID. Just pointed out that not “serving” does not make you a coward – nor does serving as far as that goes. Back then there was the draft and when called up you went – coward or not. Obama was not eligible during the draft and I didn’t see him volunteer either. Did you? So by calling Chambliss a coward and a draft dodger because he did not volunteer makes him a coward? Then using YOUR sick logic, since Obama didn’t sign up, he must be a coward too? YOU NEED HELP!
Jm
January 25th, 2013
2:28 pm
Btw
Saxby beat Cleland in a miserable manner, so i say good riddance
Cleland may not have been the best senator either, but saxby’s election tactics were disgusting
Live by the sword, die by the sword
Thulsa Doom
January 25th, 2013
2:31 pm
So the Rs will turn even father to the right after taxby is gone? Good.
williebkind
January 25th, 2013
2:33 pm
“IF you’ll tell me where we’re going to get the other $907B to get us out of deficit spending.
That’s easy. Send the Republicans the bill for the Iraq War.”
I recall democrats voting to fund the war. Selective memory do you have!
Fred ™
January 25th, 2013
2:33 pm
First you ASSume three people heard the word “Smackdown” on Rush or on Fox without any evidence and now when two of the three called you out you call us liars again without one piece of proof or evidence.
I know it’s hard for you to comprehend, but there is a legal thing called “circumstantial evidence.” People get convicted by it all the time. Statistical evidence can be circumstantial. Like I said, the probability of not two but THREE of you post NOT ONLY the same off topic subject, BUT ALSO using the same non traditional term to describe it all within 90 minutes is astronomical. If you pulled your little head out of your ass long enough to TRY to act like you had a clue you would understand this.
i’ll tell you what, show me 5 posts by each of you in different threads where you used the term ‘’smackdown.” Hell, show me 5 instances of YOU using the term “smackdown.”
I also noticed that you waited until 30 minutes AFTER I said I was leaving until Monday to comment. I’m sure that is a coincidence as well.
You should give up lying, you really suck at it.
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
2:34 pm
What a shock…the ajc has no coverage of the March for Life.
oh, stop griping. I had a look at the Google news feed (by the way, “March for life” netted “About 19,700 results”) and all I can say is, none of the headlines refer to these a-holes as “pro-criminalization”, even though that’s what they’re actually about.
also, this.
http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/legislative/40-years-after-roe-v-wade-abortion-foes-march-on/nT569/
I guess that^^ doesn’t count.
Redcoat
January 25th, 2013
2:34 pm
Recess appointments……Obama called on cheating……..
Morality?
January 25th, 2013
2:36 pm
Mama – TRUE – any where in Viet Nam was not a good place to be. But daddy did keep Al out of combat and they agreed the risk was worth it to further Al’s political career and daddy’s ambition for his son to reach heights daddy never reached – the Presidency. Al did not go to Viet Nam to fight for his country – he went for his political future. Something wrong there to me – how about you?
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
2:36 pm
and remember, by “defend the unborn,” Dawg’88 means “throw women and their doctors in jail.”
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
2:38 pm
“I’ll actually defend Kyle a bit, here. He’s tried to establish specific rules of engagement and expects people to obey them.”
Well, he basically put me – someone who probably agrees with most of what he’d say and would be supportive of his points in my posts – on probation (all submitted comments are moderated) because I used more than one screen name for satiric purposes (I mean, I don’t know what else to do with posters who do little more than say things like “the GOP are morons, the GOP are morons, the GOP are morons – and I suspect you know those about whom I am speaking). So I satirize them along with liberal mantras or memes that are repeated so often you think you are in canyon. So I have basically written Kyle off; I don’t even read his columns. I would think someone with his education would appreciate literary devices, but he appears to be too straight laced for that. Jay, by contrast, apparently does. So he deserves credit for that.
indigo
January 25th, 2013
2:39 pm
Dawg’88 – 2:19
Your “savior Jesus Christ” forgot to say ANYTHING about abortion in The New Testament.
Fred ™
January 25th, 2013
2:39 pm
Dawg’88
January 25th, 2013
2:19 pm
What a shock…the ajc has no coverage of the March for Life.
Even though there are more prolife protestors than attendees of the inauguration of the leader of the Culture of Death.
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Are you a fine Christian as you post these lies? If so, Jesus would NOT be proud of you. I see nothing to indicate anything even NEAR 800,000 people at your death march.
Wow. I am SO sick of liars. I wish they would just die. Can you imagine how much easier life would be if liars just died on the spot?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
2:40 pm
“Morality” — “So by calling Chambliss a coward and a draft dodger because he did not volunteer makes him a coward?”
A man who, like Chambliss did, avoided military service in Vietnam by claiming a bum knee (which somehow didn’t prevent him from playing ball in college) has no standing whatsoever to question the patriotism of a man who *went* to Nam.
So yes, as far as I’m concerned, Chambliss is a coward.
Thulsa Doom
January 25th, 2013
2:40 pm
Mick,
I dunno about alexs arrogance proceeding him. I just know that in my case my arrogance precedes me. Just messin witcha.
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
2:40 pm
Al did not go to Viet Nam to fight for his country – he went for his political future.
Even if that’s true, so freaking what? You telling me that GWB didn’t go into the TANG for his political future?
And beyond that, what is wrong with either young man (or young man’s respective politically-connected parents) being cognizant of having a political future in the first place? When did a desire to perform public service through elective officeholding become a Bad Thing?
It’s assumptions like that, that do make me a little touchy. It just seems so wrong. Immoral, if you will.
old man
January 25th, 2013
2:41 pm
Of all states Romney carried, Georgia was the LEAST red state, with the exception of North Carolina. The legislature has gerrymandered the crap out of their own districts, and the congressional districts, but they can’t do that with U.S. Senate seats. If the Republicans have a bloodbath and pick a Tea Party candidate, and if the Democrats pick someone who is not extremely liberal, I think you will be surprised about how close this vote will be in two years.
Morality?
January 25th, 2013
2:43 pm
Cleland blew himself up by accident while loading ammunition on a truck – a tragedy but the fact is he was not injured in combat. Do we need to rehash all of this old news over and over again? Chambliss won his election because Cleland is a PARTY LOYALIST and went against what the voters of the state wanted. His votes in Congress were a slap in the face to the voters and they put him out. Not a bad man by any means but to big gub’ment for Georgia.
Mick
January 25th, 2013
2:43 pm
morality
Like you were in al gore’s head and know his thoughts? Because he was a man of conscience and knew that the vast majority of people being drafted were from the lower class and he of the priviledged class, he thought he had a moral obligation to serve. That’s what he says and I take him for his word…
Murph
January 25th, 2013
2:45 pm
Enter your comments here
Thulsa Doom
January 25th, 2013
2:45 pm
You’re all a bunch of lying foxbot hannity limbaugh boortz listening moronic idiots!
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
2:47 pm
Thulsa, since you are here, I will ask: are you going to link me to this supposed “racist” post I’ve made in the past, that you keep referring to?
This is my fifth such request.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
2:48 pm
“Morality” — “Mama – TRUE – any where in Viet Nam was not a good place to be.”
Agreed.
“But daddy did keep Al out of combat”
Lie.
Gore was an Army Combat Correspondent. Maybe you should read this book before you say anything else.
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/requiem-tim-page/1002381273
Here are some of the photos from that book.
http://digitaljournalist.org/issue9711/req1.htm
The men and women whose photos fill that book were doing the *same* job as Gore was when they were killed in Vietnam and the surrounding area.
“Something wrong there to me – how about you?”
Yeah. You don’t know a damn thing about what people in Gore’s line of work were doing in Vietnam.
TaxPayer
January 25th, 2013
2:48 pm
Dawg88 must not have gotten the word from up high. Allow me. God aborted 600,000 in the US alone last year. Deal with it.
Morality?
January 25th, 2013
2:48 pm
Mick – right – take his WORD since he is such an honest person. I did not make this up – letters and documents of correspondence between daddy Gore and son back this up. It is in writing.
td
January 25th, 2013
2:48 pm
Fred ™
January 25th, 2013
2:33 pm
You do know there is a huge entertainment industry called wrestling? They have a actual show on TV called Smackdown. Also, one of their biggest entertainers has coined a saying that if another entertainer gets in the ring with him then he is going to “layith the Smackdown on him”. So to say that the term Smackdown is a nontraditional term is not an accurate statement. See this circumstantial evidence just proves that you are an idiot. Is this not the way this type of evidence works?
“The appeals court laid a smackdown on Obama” In other words the Appeals court pulled Obama’s pants down and spanked his little A$$.
Doggone/GA
January 25th, 2013
2:49 pm
“and remember, by “defend the unborn,” Dawg’88 means “throw women and their doctors in jail.””
Yep, because there’s no way to STOP a woman from getting an abortion…you can only decide to punish her (and the doctor when she has one) – which means you haven’t DEFENDED anything.
Mick
January 25th, 2013
2:49 pm
doom
A lot of the time, some of your retorts are a hoot…you really need to cross over from the dark side and into the light but then….the devil does need an advocate!!!
Aquagirl
January 25th, 2013
2:50 pm
So by calling Chambliss a coward and a draft dodger because he did not volunteer makes him a coward?
No, he’s a coward and a draft-dodger because he’s a coward who dodged the draft. He didn’t “not volunteer” he ran the hell away. It’s not that complicated.
Now, comparing his disabled vet opponent to Al Qaeda made Saxby a whale $#!^ eating giant isopod cowardly draft-dodger.
Please keep hugging Saxby, that nasty smell sticks. After a while you’ll find people have a time limit on how long they’ll hold their nose to vote GOP.
Regnad Kcin
January 25th, 2013
2:52 pm
” Also, one of their biggest entertainers has coined a saying that if another entertainer gets in the ring with him then he is going to “layith the Smackdown on him”. So to say that the term Smackdown is a nontraditional term is not an accurate statement. ”
So td’s defense is that most republicans watch pro wrestling?
williebkind
January 25th, 2013
2:52 pm
“and remember, by “defend the unborn,” Dawg’88 means “throw women and their doctors in jail.””
What do you do to murderers?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2013
2:53 pm
“Morality” — “Cleland blew himself up by accident while loading ammunition on a truck”
Lie.
That conservative claim has been debunked time and time again; the private who was careless with grenades admitted to what he’d done (by accident) moments after Cleland was wounded. This has been well-established since the time the accident took place.
“a tragedy but the fact is he was not injured in combat.”
And Cleland’s never claimed that he *was* injured in combat.
Towncrier
January 25th, 2013
2:53 pm
“Are you a fine Christian as you post these lies? If so, Jesus would NOT be proud of you…Wow. I am SO sick of liars. I wish they would just die. Can you imagine how much easier life would be if liars just died on the spot?”
Or people who commit adultery, steal, accuse others falsely, abuse others in word or deed and…wait…that wouldn’t leave too many people left on earth. Maybe what God has in mind is giving people time to repent.
Doggone/GA
January 25th, 2013
2:55 pm
“What do you do to murderers?”
What do we do to the murderers who execute people?
Thulsa Doom
January 25th, 2013
2:55 pm
Mick,
Are you merely implying that i’m only an advocate of the devil? My game must be slipping cause I think some of the libs thought I was the devil himself.
Regnad Kcin
January 25th, 2013
2:55 pm
““and remember, by “defend the unborn,” Dawg’88 means “throw women and their doctors in jail.””
What do you do to murderers?”
willieb – why are you changing the subject? Nobody’s talking about murder. Comments like this make me suspect you do not know what that word means. Perhaps you should ask somebody smarter than you for the definition.
Fred ™
January 25th, 2013
2:56 pm
td
January 25th, 2013
2:48 pm
Fred ™
January 25th, 2013
2:33 pm
You do know there is a huge entertainment industry called wrestling? They have a actual show on TV called Smackdown. Also, one of their biggest entertainers has coined a saying that if another entertainer gets in the ring with him then he is going to “layith the Smackdown on him”. So to say that the term Smackdown is a nontraditional term is not an accurate statement. See this circumstantial evidence just proves that you are an idiot. Is this not the way this type of evidence works?
“The appeals court laid a smackdown on Obama” In other words the Appeals court pulled Obama’s pants down and spanked his little A$$.
+++++++++++++++++++++
In other words yes you are a liar and there’s not a chance in hell of you finding five posts of your own MUCH LESS five from the other two using that phrase.
Keep on lying, it makes you appear to be winning………… well at least in your far right wing mind.
Dude, do you realize how stupid you look? You three used the EXACT same phraseology and subject. All within 90 minutes of each other. It doesn’t happen. Well not unless you are all three of the posters……….. i mean if you are using a couple of alts then it would be logical that you weren’t bright enough to change your terminology………
getalife
January 25th, 2013
2:56 pm
Did you cons hear jindal’s speech today?
It was pretty good.
rightwingextreme
January 25th, 2013
2:56 pm
Jay
January 25th, 2013
1:17 pm
Morality, with a name like “Morality,” you should already know the answer to your question.
Yes, something that is technically legal can be cheating. Is legality the only basis for determining right and wrong? (And again, the legality of this particular approach is itself uncertain.)
When slugger Mark McGuire was taking the steroid androstenedione back in the late ’90s, was he cheating? It wasn’t on baseball’s list of proscribed drugs at the time.
So Jay….using your logic….isn’t abortion, while legal, still the murder of an unborn child??
I challenge any dimlib to argue otherwise.
Jerome Horwitz
January 25th, 2013
2:57 pm
Dawg88 – I will defend a women’s right to make the correct decision for her. Between her and her doctor.
Kurtz
January 25th, 2013
2:57 pm
“You’re all a bunch of lying foxbot hannity limbaugh boortz listening moronic idiots!”
Exterminate all the brutes!
Doggone/GA
January 25th, 2013
2:57 pm
“So Jay….using your logic….isn’t abortion, while legal, still the murder of an unborn child?? ”
Nope
Taxi Smith
January 25th, 2013
2:57 pm
You are so predictable. Do you ever actually think about a subject?
Regnad Kcin
January 25th, 2013
2:58 pm
“Maybe what God has in mind is giving people time to repent.”
Not always. Sometimes he destroys whole cities, or even the whole world!
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
2:58 pm
Yep, because there’s no way to STOP a woman from getting an abortion…you can only decide to punish her (and the doctor when she has one) – which means you haven’t DEFENDED anything.
I guess to play devil’s advocate, one can effectively stop SOME people from having the procedure by incrementally making it as difficult as possible, as these a-holes have done in some of the more backward states. But of course you can’t forcibly prevent pregnancy terminations from happening; and while I’ve heard some “pro-lifers” vociferously object to my term “pro-criminalization,” I don’t know what else you’d call advocating for a personhood amendment. Obviously if you’re conferring basic citizenship rights to embryonic life, you’re going to be committing some crime if you end that life. I don’t see any way around the use of the criminal code to accomplish that.
Doggone/GA
January 25th, 2013
2:59 pm
“You are so predictable. Do you ever actually think about a subject?”
You are so predictable. Do you ever actually think before you hit Submit?
Fred ™
January 25th, 2013
2:59 pm
Or people who commit adultery, steal, accuse others falsely, abuse others in word or deed and…wait…that wouldn’t leave too many people left on earth. Maybe what God has in mind is giving people time to repent.
I’m not got, I don’t know God’s mind, and I don’t speak for God. I speak for myself. I was pretty freaking clear on that. I said I not God, wish that liars would just die.
But thank you for your sermon. I’m sure it made logical sense to someone.
Regnad Kcin
January 25th, 2013
2:59 pm
“So Jay….using your logic….isn’t abortion, while legal, still the murder of an unborn child?? ”
No.
rightwingextreme
January 25th, 2013
3:00 pm
Doggone/GA
January 25th, 2013
2:57 pm
“So Jay….using your logic….isn’t abortion, while legal, still the murder of an unborn child?? ”
Nope
dude…you’re a cold fish if you really believe this. you and mengele would have been great friends.
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
3:00 pm
They have a actual show on TV called Smackdown. Also, one of their biggest entertainers has coined a saying that if another entertainer gets in the ring with him then he is going to “layith the Smackdown on him”.
this is not the sort of thing that I would necessarily acknowledge knowing about in a forum like this.
Mr. Thomas Anthony Jones, SR
January 25th, 2013
3:01 pm
The Republicans will start losing elections because of Demographics in the 2018 and 2020 elections cycles.
Morality?
January 25th, 2013
3:01 pm
Mama – I don’t know that much about Chambliss and his bum knee – in fact this is the first I have heard of it. If that is true how did Chambliss get past the military physical? Let it go on record here that I did not call anyone a coward – that was JV. I did not call Obama a coward – just pointed out that he did not serve. I guess Bush joined the guard to avoid Viet Nam – not to further any political career. That is my guess. That happened a lot and I thought it was wrong. This was LBJ’s and Congress’s loophole to keep their children from being drafted. As you know as long as you could stay in college you could also avoid the draft. Back then gub’ment scholarships and so forth were non existent. So, you had to be fairly well off financially have political connections or actually flunk the physical to avoid Viet Nam. Ali refused to be drafted – did that make him a coward? There are different reasons why people do or don’t do things. We could go on about this all day but – let’s don’t.
AmericaShrugged
January 25th, 2013
3:01 pm
Of course the political story of the day was the march in Washington, but the godless, morally bankrupt prefer to slam Repubs rather that have to admit to their sanction of the murders of 55 million innocents.
TaxPayer
January 25th, 2013
3:01 pm
isn’t abortion, while legal, still the murder of an unborn child??
Take it up with the Catholics. They say a fetus is not a person. And as for equating murder with abortion, God aborted 600,000 in the US last year. Are you calling God a murderer.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 25th, 2013
3:01 pm
Headline: “Frustrated Chambliss won’t run”
Will Perdue run ?
Will Bookman run ?
Doggone/GA
January 25th, 2013
3:01 pm
“dude…you’re a cold fish if you really believe this. you and mengele would have been great friends”
I’m not a dude. And if you don’t .like abortions take it up with your God, because spontaneous abortions happen EVERY day. Why aren’t THOSE prevented?
rightwingextreme
January 25th, 2013
3:02 pm
AmericaShrugged
January 25th, 2013
3:01 pm
Of course the political story of the day was the march in Washington, but the godless, morally bankrupt prefer to slam Repubs rather that have to admit to their sanction of the murders of 55 million innocents.
Amen!
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
3:03 pm
.isn’t abortion, while legal, still the murder of an unborn child?
to put it indelicately–isn’t hamburger, while legal, still the “murder” of a defenseless cow?
See, words have meanings. You toss a word like “murder” around like that and dumb down its meaning, you can expect to not be taken terribly seriously, and mocked.