“The Kids Are Alright,” but they’re not exactly kids …
A cover of a song released 50 years ago next year.
Rock and roll will never die.
– Jay Bookman
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JamVet
January 25th, 2013
9:17 pm
Great stuff, gang.
Kinda under the weather here in Doraville and I have to rally for a party tomorrow night, so I’m signing off with this one. Peace out, FNMers!
It’s a hard, hard world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4xjr9v5ehk
stands for decibels
January 25th, 2013
9:28 pm
Gotta do a drive-by, but in case nobody has posted this link (don’t think anyone has):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ9ujkz8WUE
Gotta admit, whenever I hear the Who’s single, this is how I visualize it, from the movie.
(sharp-eyed folks will spot the obvious anachronism in this clip.)
RW-(the original)
January 25th, 2013
9:34 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7vvo8C7aVE
…wonder if “I’m” is our country? OOPS, forgot the Friday night cease fire
td
January 25th, 2013
9:40 pm
Tonight’s tribute to another American that says the left’s tax rates are driving them to renounce their citizenship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCBttS_y7lE
RW-(the original)
January 25th, 2013
9:44 pm
hmmm…. perhaps I should’ve watched that video before I posted it. MB is gonna be all up in my business
RW-(the original)
January 25th, 2013
9:56 pm
And this guy just got a speeding ticket in his Chrysler even though he should be driving a Chevy, but I’ll reserve the cliche song until somebody else shows up here. Jay B’s place seems to draw about the same traffic as catladysbasementdotcom these days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dipFMJckZOM
TaxPayer
January 26th, 2013
8:21 am
Here’s another band that’s seen a lot over their 50+ years.
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
8:36 am
“We must stop being the stupid party.” “We must stop looking backward.” “We must stop insulting the intelligence of voters.”
Gov. Bobby Jindal held little back with his sharp words to Republicans Thursday evening, urging his own party to rethink their arguments against Democrats and appeals to voters in his remarks to party members attending the Republican National Committee’s Winter Meeting.
“We must compete for every single vote: the 47 percent and the 53 percent and any other combination of numbers that adds up to 100 percent,” he said, notably invoking comments 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney made at a closed door fundraiser about a bloc of voters who would not consider GOP candidates.
He also spoke out against those and other “completely unhelpful” comments from Romney in a November interview with CNN.
Good luck, Bobby.
But given that they are utterly unwilling to change and learn from their mistakes, I’d say that you have a truly impossible task on your hands.
Back to the sweet music from a generation that will probably never be rivaled…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZilu4ApCI0
vinny
January 26th, 2013
8:43 am
Jay-boy,
why didn’t you write something about your homie Barry Obama getting the slap down on his unconstitutional, illegal appointments to the right-to-work hating NLRB? Huh, Jay-boy?
Obama's 47% (yet he's focused on climate change, immigration, gays, and guns)
January 26th, 2013
8:54 am
A new report from Data Driven Detroit reveals that in spite of the many families with kids that left Detroit between 2000 and 2010 — much of the city’s population still consists of children living in poverty.
Sixty percent of children in Detroit live in poverty, per the “State of Detroit” report. This represents a 64.7 percent increase in child poverty in the city since 1999. Children account for 194,347 of Detroit’s residents, or 27 percent of the city’s total population.
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/01/24/report-childhood-poverty-high-in-detroit-but-teen-pregnancy-down/
Jay
January 26th, 2013
8:59 am
Give me your blog URL, Vinny, and I’ll go see what YOU have to say about it….
What’s that? Oh.
Jay
January 26th, 2013
9:08 am
I understand that conservatives are starved for victories, which makes this court ruling important to them. If you can’t win on ObamaCare, or on the election, or on taxes, at least win on something. I get that.
And as I noted earlier, I think the court was probably right in its ruling. I understand why Obama tried this — the Senate has gotten ridiculous in refusing to do its constitutional duty to at least vote on nominations. If the Senate rejects them, fine. But at least vote.
I mean, they can’t even get a vote on an ATF director for six years? Six years? Seriously?
In that kind of environment, Obama tried another way to make the federal government function. It doesn’t look as if it’s going to work. It happens.
indigo
January 26th, 2013
9:13 am
Jay – 9:08
I understand Obama will probably appeal this to The Supreme Court.
It would be good to see the Roberts Court side with him and see the looks on Republican faces.
TaxPayer
January 26th, 2013
9:13 am
I was thinking about asking vinny what sort of contract he offered Jay in terms of salary and benefits that would compel him to fulfill vinny’s demands. Or something like that.
stands for decibels
January 26th, 2013
9:21 am
even though he should be driving a Chevy
True that.
stands for decibels
January 26th, 2013
9:24 am
It would be good to see the Roberts Court side with him and see the looks on Republican faces.
From the (probably superficial) coverage I heard on NPR, on Friday, it is a distinct possibility it would go the Administration’s way. The SCOTUS does tend to think long term, and they certainly will be thinking of future Republican Presidents wanting to be able to exercise similar power.
stands for decibels
January 26th, 2013
9:28 am
. I understand why Obama tried this — the Senate has gotten ridiculous in refusing to do its constitutional duty to at least vote on nominations. If the Senate rejects them, fine. But at least vote.
And this is why things like the trillion dollar coin wind up being seriously considered. Yes, the trillion dollar coin would’ve been ridiculous. But Congress’ irresponsibility driving that consideration is ridiculous cubed.
Beyond that, of course, there’s the question of why the Senate Dems are making like the apocryphal Will Rogers liberal, too broad minded to take their own side in a fight. Only they’re not actually broad minded, they’re vain, petty, horrible men, and that’s why they can’t even force a spoken filibuster.
stands for decibels
January 26th, 2013
9:31 am
he’s focused on climate change, immigration, gays, and guns
you know, mere trivialities!
barking frog
January 26th, 2013
9:32 am
Maybe Roberts’ Rules of Order will say that a quorum must be present
for a deliberative governmental body to be in session…
Hmmmmmmm
January 26th, 2013
9:35 am
another ridiculous article… Jay I have been reading your blog for awhile, and for the life of me, I can’t understand why you don’t write about something pertinent …. I mean, we all know your a democrat… No surprise there… But why not write about something of substance.. I think some of your loyal people on this blog may be smart enough.. Maybe… For example, write something about how it is possible for Obama to win all the areas in this country where there is NO voter ID required… It just so happens that Romney WON in every district that required voter ID… Wouldn’t that be a thought provoking topic… Hmmmmmm You talk of the right side cheating, well why not give both sides a look… Just asking…
barking frog
January 26th, 2013
9:38 am
It just so happens that Romney WON in every district that required voter ID…
………………………………………………………………………………………..
Would not this district be highly Republican since voter id is their obsession?
Hmmmmmmm
January 26th, 2013
9:44 am
@barking frog
Good grief don’t be a MORON… You can’t possibly believe that… Just try for once to be rational, and not just lash out at someone who doesn’t vote for your guy… I mean, there is NO secret that the democrats do NOT want to require ID in order to vote.. Why would any legal citizen of this country have a problem with proving his ID… But people like you prove my point… This country is truly in trouble!
barking frog
January 26th, 2013
9:47 am
HMMMMMMMM
just pointing out a fact that any moron should be able to see……
vinny
January 26th, 2013
9:51 am
too bad Obama doesn’t try as hard to get a budget passed or meet with his ‘jobs council’ that he formed. Seems he has lost his laser like focus on creating jobs, yet is so quick to act when it comes to limiting constitutional rights guaranteed by the second amendment.
Doggone/GA
January 26th, 2013
9:53 am
“Why would any legal citizen of this country have a problem with proving his ID”
They don’t. They already DO prove it. The problem isn’t the WHAT, it’s the HOW
Doggone/GA
January 26th, 2013
9:55 am
“too bad Obama doesn’t try as hard to get a budget passed”
Too bad you don’t know that budgest have NO FORCE IN LAW and are not even signed by the President IF they are passed. Learn something, why don’t you?
barking frog
January 26th, 2013
9:57 am
vinny
with your background in Constitutional law, you should inform the
President of his errors. His door is open on the internet and the
mail box and I think he reads Jay’s column so no need to wait for
the SCOTUS decision…
Hmmmmmmm
January 26th, 2013
9:57 am
Thanks barking frog, now go back to sleep… You are truly part of the intellectual elite..
I can only hope to be as smart as you one day.. 
Jay
January 26th, 2013
9:58 am
Vinny, cease the name-calling. It certainly doesn’t do your side’s credibility any good.
barking frog
January 26th, 2013
9:59 am
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
a fine ambition……
Jay
January 26th, 2013
10:03 am
“For example, write something about how it is possible for Obama to win all the areas in this country where there is NO voter ID required… It just so happens that Romney WON in every district that required voter ID… Wouldn’t that be a thought provoking topic”
It might be a thought-provoking topic … if it were TRUE. But it is not true: http://factcheck.org/2013/01/voting-conspiracies/
You see, once again there’s that reality problem. You want me to write about something doesn’t exist, except in the overheated conservative hive mind. Just because you want to believe something is true does not make it true. That’s the attitude of a three-year-old.
Hmmmmmmm
January 26th, 2013
10:06 am
Yeah maybe one day… but then I have the means to move out of this country when everything is finally ruined… You will probably be blogging, swearing you don’t know what went wrong… You and your blogging buddies will still be finding fault with anybody but yourselves… Have a GREAT day barking…
barking frog
January 26th, 2013
10:07 am
That’s the attitude of a three-year-old.
……………………………………………………………
possibly an overestimation of the mentality involved….
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
10:08 am
vinny, according to one of your rising stars, you must stop being the stupid, backward and insulting party.
But only if you ever want to start winning national elections again. And I am fine if you don’t.
Personally, I am a big fan of the tactic that that you and others here, along with Alan West, Joe Walsh, Todd Akin, Richard Mourdouch, George “Macaca” Allen and Mitt Romney have been using to garner such staggering recent successes for the Stupid Party.
Keep up the great work…
barking frog
January 26th, 2013
10:10 am
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
why wait, you can walk across to Canada or Mexico….don’t even need
a bus ticket…
Thomas
January 26th, 2013
10:13 am
Vinny, cease the name-calling. It certainly doesn’t do your side’s credibility any good.
Hey Bookman see 9:22 pathetic post-
This is slop. One can learn more reading Mad Magazine.
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
10:14 am
…I have the means to move out of this country…
Air Iran is ready when you are.
Jay
January 26th, 2013
10:23 am
And SFD, I now see that you provoked Vinny.
This is a repeat performance on your part. Please don’t return until Monday, and if it happens again after that, the ban will be long-term.
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
10:38 am
Bobby Jindal is not the answer to the GOP’s problems. Bobby Jindal is the problem. ~Thomas Jefferson
Why? Though he has the temerity to actually admit that the Republican Party has massive problems, (Like it takes a Sherlock Holmes to figure that one out), he has the same “answer” they all have.
Make NO fundamental changes. Tweak around the edges of the train wreck. But don’t do anything truly significant in terms of policies or positions. Repaint the submarine’s screen doors. Repackage the same old neocon slop as actual conservatism and, “do a better job of getting the message out”. And always, always, always, blame someone, anyone else for your self-inflicted wounds.
Good luck with that strategery, guv…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLeCB7Kn-VE
Orange13
January 26th, 2013
10:47 am
Too many amateur politicians. Let’s have some music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQF8CILMt8c
TaxPayer
January 26th, 2013
10:53 am
Jay,
The sky’s the limit on topics and their respective outcomes once you accept the unskewed data. Partake of the unskewed data, Jay, and let your mind go when no man has gone before. Lots of Republicans there though.
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
11:04 am
13, not that it’s about right or wrong or good or bad, but the Dead really never did much for me.
And I’ve listened to more than a few of their songs.
I’m sure to real Deadheads what I write next is laughable, but the only record of theirs that I ever deemed enjoyable enough to buy has a song on it that really impressed the hell out of me…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr5COriTpRQ
getalife
January 26th, 2013
11:24 am
I am not sure if the Senate was legally in session in that ruling but do know three con activist judges decided it was.
Holder said it was Constitutionally sound .
Orange13
January 26th, 2013
11:28 am
Jamvet@11:04
Thanks for the link.
Oscar
January 26th, 2013
11:37 am
it may turn out that holder was right. that is why we have courts and judges. to decide who was right or at least to get issues settled. right or wrong.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 26th, 2013
11:49 am
Well, I see sfd got hisself in trouble already and it ain’t even noon on Saturday.
Anyhow, I got so deep into PBR up at Billy Bob’s last night I never got around to posting a song. Here’s a couple guys that went into the Marines a couple years after I went into the army. If you look real close you’ll see the guy in the white jacket in the background is the great guitarist Albert Lee. This one is from the Albert Hall reunion tour:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDv8m2N-qdk
Have a good Saturday everybody and behave yourself sfd. We need you back on Monday.
td
January 26th, 2013
11:57 am
Jay
January 26th, 2013
9:08 am
“I understand that conservatives are starved for victories, which makes this court ruling important to them. If you can’t win on ObamaCare, or on the election, or on taxes, at least win on something. I get that.”
But yet the Republicans picked up one more governorship and now have 30 states.
The Republicans now control 24 states totally as compared to the Dems control 13. The Republicans went from a 56 seat deficit in the House of Reps in 2009 to now a 33 seat advantage now and according to Nate Silver they will hold the house until at least the next Census.
“And as I noted earlier, I think the court was probably right in its ruling. I understand why Obama tried this — the Senate has gotten ridiculous in refusing to do its constitutional duty to at least vote on nominations. If the Senate rejects them, fine. But at least vote.”
Could this be because the President thinks he is above REAL compromise. You know the type of Compromise that Reagan, GHWB and Clinton had to do to get anything accomplished when the opposing party controlled the HOR’s?
“I mean, they can’t even get a vote on an ATF director for six years? Six years? Seriously?”
If I am not mistaken at least 2 of those years was when a Republican held the WH and the Dems controlled the Senate. Could it have been the Dems that blocked the ATF?
“In that kind of environment, Obama tried another way to make the federal government function. It doesn’t look as if it’s going to work. It happens”
Well maybe now Obama will actually have to give in and place moderates that the Senate can stand in order to fill those positions. It seems like the Republican Senate is not going to oppose Kerry for SOS. I am sure they would be more then happy to support the nomination of any Democratic Senator from a state controlled by a Republican Governor:-)
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
January 26th, 2013
11:58 am
stands: why the Senate Dems are making like the apocryphal Will Rogers liberal, too broad minded to take their own side in a fight. Only they’re not actually broad minded, they’re vain, petty, horrible men, and that’s why they can’t even force a spoken filibuster.
Only ONE dem thought chickened out – that was Reid. He had a chance to get things done, yet he was too scared of his own shadow.
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
12:02 pm
NEW YORK — Fox News Channel is parting ways with former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, ending her three-year tenure as a contributor on the network.
While Palin’s time at Fox was occasionally rocky, the network’s news executive, Bill Shine, said Friday that “we have thoroughly enjoyed our association” with her.
But there were some indications of tension between her and Fox News Chairman Roger Ailes, who was quoted in a 2011 story by The Associated Press saying, “I hired Sarah Palin because she was hot and got ratings.”
Shake it for the lonely old Republicans, Caribou Barbie…
tiredofIT
January 26th, 2013
12:08 pm
So three republican activist judges rule against President Obama. Like that was unexpected.
TJ
January 26th, 2013
12:14 pm
Now I enjoyed that video. Thanks J. No politics;just life.
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
12:17 pm
Now that they have lost the war on the eastern and western fronts, the American Fascists want to compromise.
But I’m old school, like FDR, Truman and Churchill.
The only acceptable outcome is their complete and unconditional surrender…
larry
January 26th, 2013
12:28 pm
Sarah Palin gets replaced by Dennis Kursinich (spelling?), Wow who saw that coming.
But i can see why they hired him, since he is far left of even Obama , they can have someone on the other side to criticize him, since having someone from the far right didnt work.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 26th, 2013
12:29 pm
Fox News Channel is parting ways with former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, ending her three-year tenure as a contributor on the network.
Translation: You’re overdue on the expiration of your 15 minutes. We’ve got other crazies to put on the air.
indigo
January 26th, 2013
12:30 pm
Jay – 10:03
“Just because you want to believe something is true does not make it true. That’s the attitude of a three-year old”
That’s what I keep telling all those true religious believers here as they wax eloquently about their “God of love”.
Somehow, they never listen.
td
January 26th, 2013
12:34 pm
tiredofIT
January 26th, 2013
12:08 pm
So three republican activist judges rule against President Obama. Like that was unexpected.
And you know this by what set of evidence? Or was it just a feeling?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 26th, 2013
12:38 pm
Just because you want to believe something is true does not make it true. That’s the attitude of a three-year old — Oirly Tates
getalife
January 26th, 2013
12:42 pm
“And you know this by what set of evidence? Or was it just a feeling?”
cnn.
TBS
January 26th, 2013
12:49 pm
td
Tina Turner has been living abroad since the 90s. Can you show where it is a tax issue? Was that your assertion or her word?. You could be right, but LA Times and Fox article I read didn’t quote her regarding taxes.
Thanks
hamiltonAZ
January 26th, 2013
1:02 pm
When the City of Atlanta (and the State of Georgia) figures this out….
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/26/nyregion/police-have-done-more-than-prisons-to-cut-crime-in-new-york.html
td
January 26th, 2013
1:03 pm
TBS
January 26th, 2013
12:49 pm
td
Tina Turner has been living abroad since the 90s. Can you show where it is a tax issue? Was that your assertion or her word?. You could be right, but LA Times and Fox article I read didn’t quote her regarding taxes.
Thanks
Well, as your friend on this blog JHM said yesterday the circumstantial evidence surely favors the position of her giving up her citizenship to avoid paying the US federal tax rates. Now she pays a much lower rate in Swit. then she would have if she would have remained a citizen and had to continue to pay the US rates.
TBS
January 26th, 2013
1:07 pm
td
Is that so? What are the rates in Switzerland?
I asked because you made a definitive statement as to why she left, yet provide little to nothing in proof.
td
January 26th, 2013
1:23 pm
TBS
January 26th, 2013
1:07 pm
It is very complicated but from what I have read the max rate is 13 to 17% as compared to 39% in the US.
Income tax
Either a progressive or proportional income tax is levied by the Confederation and by the cantons on the income of natural persons. The income tax is imposed as a payroll tax on foreign workers without a residence permit,[12] and in the form of a withholding tax on certain transient persons, such as foreign musicians performing in Switzerland.
Taxable income includes all funds accruing to a person from all sources, in principle without deduction of losses or expenses,[13] and including the rental value of a house lived in by its owner.[14] However, capital gains on private property (such as profits from the sale of shares) are tax-free, except where the cantons levy a tax on real estate capital gains.[15] Certain expenses are also deductible. These include social security or pension fund payments,[16] expenses related to the gain of income (such as employment expenses and maintenance costs of real estate) and alimonies.[17] Gifts and inheritances are also exempt from the income tax, but are subject to separate cantonal taxes.[13]
Non-working foreigners resident in Switzerland may choose to pay a “lump-sum tax” instead of the normal income tax. The tax, which is generally much lower than the normal income tax, is nominally levied on the taxpayer’s living expenses, but in practice (which varies from canton to canton), it is common to use the quintuple of the rent paid by the taxpayer as a basis for the lump-sum taxation.[18] This option contributes to Switzerland’s status as a tax haven, and has induced many wealthy foreigners to live in Switzerland.
In 2011, the federal income tax varied from a bracket of 1% (for single tax payers) and 0.77% (for married taxpayers) to the maximum rate of 11.5%. Individuals earning below 13,600 and couples earning below 27,000 Swiss francs were exempt. On cantonal level, tax rates varies heavily, Obwalden adapted a 1.8% flat tax on all personal income following a cantonal referendum in 2007. In most cantons, the rate is proportional with a maximum rate of 6.5% in Bern, whereas in Zurich it was 13% and in Geneva 17.58-.76 % (depending upon taxes as single or jointly).[19][20]
Recon 0311 2533
January 26th, 2013
1:28 pm
Translation: You’re overdue on the expiration of your 15 minutes. We’ve got other crazies to put on the air.
Yes, like Dennis Kucinich
Utter disbelief...NOT!
January 26th, 2013
1:37 pm
…Kilpatrick is charged with a series of crimes related to an alleged scheme to pocket hundreds of thousands of dollars through racketeering and extortion. The government says many of his targets were contractors who did business with the city and were desperate to keep it. His father, Bernard, and a close friend, Bobby Ferguson, also are on trial.
An Internal Revenue Service agent testified Friday that Kilpatrick should owe $200,000 in back taxes tied to unreported income.
Kilpatrick, a Democrat, was elected Detroit mayor in 2001. He resigned in 2008 and pleaded guilty to obstructing justice by lying in a civil case about having sex with an aide. He subsequently served 14 months in prison for violating his probation in that case…
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DETROIT_EX_MAYOR_PRISON?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-01-25-18-57-07
Jay
January 26th, 2013
1:38 pm
According to the Heritage Foundation, Switzerland (29.4%) collects more of its GDP in taxes than does the United States (26%). In addition, the US figure includes state and local taxes; the Swiss figure apparently does not.
And as far as I’ve seen, Turner has said nothing about it being motivated by taxes. That is pure speculation.
TBS
January 26th, 2013
1:42 pm
td
The Swiss have more than just Fed taxes that citizens have to pay just like in the US.
The average overall rate isn’t that low.
http://www.taxrates.cc/html/switzerland-tax-rates.html
Of course I don’t know her overall tax rate now, but I doubt she is saving much money if any. I think it has as much to do with the fact that she like living in Switzerland with her boyfriend and that is now her home.
Brosephus™
January 26th, 2013
1:43 pm
And as far as I’ve seen, Turner has said nothing about it being motivated by taxes. That is pure speculation.
You’ve gotta keep in mind who’s bringing that up….
TBS
January 26th, 2013
1:47 pm
td
and quoting the top nominal rate and not the avg effective rate is disingenuous and misleading
You are fully aware of that, but nice try
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
2:02 pm
Forget those nutjobs and charlatans on Faux News.
Other than watching Piggy Rove meltdown on election night, who cares what those frauds say?
Matthew Sweet and Susanna Hoffs cover the amazing Todd Rundgren…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9LtwlPGYn8
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
2:04 pm
And the even more amazing Who…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LkJB7JrfgM
getalife
January 26th, 2013
2:13 pm
I heard Tina say she fell in love with Switzerland because she can go shopping and people don’t know who she is and leave her alone..
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
2:18 pm
The sells outs and traitors who have essentially declared Uncle Sam their enemy are always looking for safety in numbers…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol4MaEPayv0
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
2:23 pm
Those early James Taylor records had some certain magic to them.
Here that Lincoln boy and LA girl cover one of this early gems…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb88H8lN6iU
Jm
January 26th, 2013
2:24 pm
Anonymous take down of USsc.gov
Website
I can sympathize with those guys
Jm
January 26th, 2013
2:26 pm
If Mickelson ditches the US, I can’t blame him
Fred ™
January 26th, 2013
2:26 pm
Well, as your friend on this blog JHM said yesterday the circumstantial evidence surely favors the position of her giving up her citizenship to avoid paying the US federal tax rates.
Wow. you really ARE lacking the ability of higher reasoning skills and concept recognition aren’t you?
You should take some courses so you don’t look so stupid. Here let me help you:
https://www.coursera.org/course/intrologic
Jm
January 26th, 2013
2:27 pm
The revolution may have begun
Will it grow or fizzle?
Probably fizzle but you never know
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda
January 26th, 2013
2:28 pm
The sells outs and traitors who have essentially declared Uncle Sam their enemy are always looking for safety in numbers…
So true.
Fred ™
January 26th, 2013
2:28 pm
Jm
January 26th, 2013
2:26 pm
If Mickelson ditches the US, I can’t blame him
++++++++++++++++
Hell yeah, send him off and tell him to NEVER come back.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 26th, 2013
2:30 pm
On Friday night, Bill Maher asked if America was undergoing a masculinity crisis. Why do we spend more on defense than the next 13 countries combined, Maher wondered?
“Let me ask you: if a guy on your block was so frightened of mostly nonexistent prowlers that he spent all his resources on alarm systems and guns and cameras, so much so that he didn’t even have enough money left to maintain his home or send his kids to college, would you call him brave?”
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
2:31 pm
How Lefty was able to get his entire bag, all 14 clubs and both feet in his mouth was truly awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2hAHVpT0NY
Jm
January 26th, 2013
2:36 pm
Fred
If he leaves he can still play here
getalife
January 26th, 2013
2:38 pm
The wealthy will be fine.
The mindless slobbering over them is over.
Jay
January 26th, 2013
2:38 pm
I agree, Jam. Why would you celebrate someone who chooses money over country? Why would you treat them as some sort of hero?
It reflects a warped value system.
rabbit
January 26th, 2013
3:53 pm
Nice musical interlude. I didn’t die before I got old. Glad of that.
The richness of life, its textures and hues, is sometimes lost in the effort we expend passing through it. Sometimes, weeks go by and I realize I haven’t looked up from it to see the wonder. And there is so much wonder. I recommit to being more aware. It’s the way I should.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMrkbRrUpj0
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
3:53 pm
Why would you celebrate someone who choose money over country? Why would you treat them as some sort of hero?
It reflects a warped value system.
BRAVO!
Very well said, sir!
Certainly one of the bluesier things Brian Wilson ever wrote and what a great song…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQOaLP-qPmk
td
January 26th, 2013
4:14 pm
TBS
January 26th, 2013
1:47 pm
td
and quoting the top nominal rate and not the avg effective rate is disingenuous and misleading
You are fully aware of that, but nice try
You talk about the top rate in this situation because it is the rate that Tina would be under in both countries. She is the one that renounced her citizenship to become a Swis citizen.
td
January 26th, 2013
4:17 pm
Fred ™
January 26th, 2013
2:26 pm
Well, as your friend on this blog JHM said yesterday the circumstantial evidence surely favors the position of her giving up her citizenship to avoid paying the US federal tax rates.
Wow. you really ARE lacking the ability of higher reasoning skills and concept recognition aren’t you?
Then please give us an explanation as to why a person such as Tina would renounce their US citizenship if not to pay less taxes?
Towncrier
January 26th, 2013
4:27 pm
“I agree, Jam. Why would you celebrate someone who chooses money over country? Why would you treat them as some sort of hero?”
And the thousands upon thousands of athletes and owners and entertainers and producers and agents who “choose” to make as much money as they possibly can – millions upon millions of dollars – with little concern for how that may financially affect the people to whom they owe their living (the “fans”)? What are they choosing money over? Is it not, in a sense, country? Liberals like to harp on the “greed” of corporations (and greed IS a very serious sin, in my view), but they hypocritically say nothing about the greed of liberal entertainers or corrupt politicians they like. If greed is bad, then greed is bad for everyone – period.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 26th, 2013
4:31 pm
Although Turner is estimated to be worth about $200 million and says she wasn’t motivated by taxes, keeping her US citizenship would have forced her to continue paying the IRS, even if she never returns to the US.
For 150 years, Switzerland has also offered tax breaks for foreign millionaires to boost tourism, making them exempt from an income tax and allowing them to pay a flat fee. More than 5,000 foreigners have been using the tax breaks, but opponents of the deal have been gathering signatures to scrap the breaks, putting it up for a popular vote to take place within the next two years.
Four of Switzerland’s 26 cantons – including Zurich – have already scrapped the tax breaks for wealthy foreigners.
During most of her 20 years in Switzerland, Turner benefited from the tax breaks. Although she will now be paying Swiss taxes as a citizen, which are high, she will no longer have to pay American taxes in addition.
“There’s little to suggest taxes motivate the decision, and Swiss rates are high. Yet filing tax returns in multiple nations and claiming foreign tax credits is an imperfect process that often results in tax mismatches,” writes Forbes contributor Robert W. Wood.
Even though the multimillionaire doesn’t have to worry about her finances, giving up her US citizenship will at least reduce the paperwork – and save her a million or two.
Wow, 20 seconds on the “google” proves that the right wing conned love to advance some really ignorant theories to support their diatribes rather than deal with reality. Perhaps they need to educate themselves in the real world..
Fred ™
January 26th, 2013
4:33 pm
Then please give us an explanation as to why a person such as Tina would renounce their US citizenship if not to pay less taxes?
Maybe because she LIKES it there. She has lived there now over 20 years. You making a wild assed claim is NOT with nothing to support it “circumstantial evidence.”
Wow, you show more and more how little intelligence and reasoniong skills you have. I better not engage you anymore, under the Americans With Disabilities Act, I could be charged, since you are showing signs that you are severely deficient in mental powers. To the point one could easily make the argument that you are mentally disabled.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 26th, 2013
4:34 pm
I’m happy for her. Too much of our tax dollars are wasted to feel good about paying more and more…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 26th, 2013
4:35 pm
FRED
At least he gets prime parking every single place he goes…there is value to that..
JamVet
January 26th, 2013
4:43 pm
Then please give us an explanation as to why a person such as Tina would renounce their US citizenship if not to pay less taxes?
Are you kidding???
Some day, td – the man who insisted that Mitt Romney was going to win this past election – to the point where he made an insanely embarrassing (for him) public bet with me about it – is going to get something right. Maybe! LOL!
Towncrier
January 26th, 2013
4:46 pm
I hope everyone knows the meaning of words like insidious and treacherous. Because that is what, in my opinion, the secret actions of certain Democrats (and probably Republicans too) is like – having a hidden agenda and trying to foist it upon an otherwise innocent and unsuspecting public. Stuff like this makes me very indignant:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/01/20/NY-Assemblyman-exposes-gun-confiscation-agenda-of-Democrats
Radical attempts at or desires for gun control represents the Democrat’s Waterloo and they don’t even know it. They really don’t know (as yet, without some serious thought and study) what possible solutions there might be to mass killings but they dust off 20 year gun laws and try to pass them again – though there is no clear evidence that gun control laws do anything definitive to reduce gun violence and though the vast majority (80%) of gun related homicides involve handguns and frequently occur where there already are some of the strictest gun laws in the land. It does appear they are really interested in solving the problem of gun violence in America, else they would be doing something about what is happening in Chicago and cities like that. In short, their actions do NOT match their words. And so, one is prone to suspect evil motivations when that happens. Perhaps they ought to consider who their “father” is:
“You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” – John 8:44
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 26th, 2013
4:52 pm
Brietbart makes TC indignant? Brietbart makes me laugh and point at those who believe their nonsense.
Fred ™
January 26th, 2013
4:53 pm
Perhaps they need to educate themselves in the real world..
They can’t Keep. They simply lack the brains to do so. Look at what td calls “circumstantial evidence.”
Look at how Town crier took Jams comment about people LEAVING the Country to avoid taxes and morphed it into……. well hell, I’m not sure what to call that glop of words he spewed out at 4:27. It’s simply amazing the level of ignorance that is displayed here. PROUDLY displayed. I mean I KNOW I’m fat, I don’t go to the beach or pool in a Speedo to put it on display. Why do folks come here to put stupid on display?
Fred ™
January 26th, 2013
4:56 pm
Wow. No wonder Town Crier doesn’t want mental evaluations for gun owners……..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 26th, 2013
4:56 pm
Wow, radical?
Seems to me most, if not, all of the whiner’s report on “facebook” (Really? facebook….now that is some serious reporting) are all acceptable. I suspect the word “confiscate” are his words and something rational was proposed, but you can’t get the conned base all riled up without playing their code word game.