With Hillary testifying, GOP gets its Benghazi moment

Amazing that you don’t mention that they are discussing events surrounding the first death of a US ambassador in 25 years. Political views are indeed more important than human life to the simple minded.

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Mark my words:

Again, there is no question that the Benghazi tragedy revealed important lapses of judgment among State Department personnel, including Stevens himself, as well as institutional problems within the department. Clinton, who will soon be leaving office, has acknowledged those problems and pledged to correct them, a task that her probable successor, John Kerry, will have to continue. As part of its oversight function, Congress has every right to press Clinton on the progress she has made.

at least a half dozen guys who post here will not read that paragraph.

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…for at least opening up to a chance that the Dems might have indeed blown this:

“Such claims have always seemed grossly exaggerated based on the available facts, but again, if he and others have the evidence to back such hyperbole, this is their chance to present it to the American people. I’m betting they don’t.”

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Jay is obsessed with Benghazi

And guns

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…as Keep up the Good Fight tries to compare this event to the war on gun violence in the U.S – just wow…

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The conclusion of this investigation will be once again that we have an incompetent administration in charge right now, shocker.

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“today will be the day to put up or shut up. Clinton will testify, alone”

This segment almost has an NFL Films feel to it. The slow motion camera, the music, the voice narration.

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Virginia Senate Passes Redistricting Plan To Oust Democratic Senator During Inaugural

As mentioned earlier, seizing on the absence of a Democratic senator who happens to be a veteran of the civil rights movement and was in Washington, on Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, for the second inauguration of the country’s first black president, Republicans in the evenly split Virginia state Senatepushed through a surprise mid-decade redistricting plan to try to gain decisive control of the body in the next election.

This is the kind of dirty tricks the RepugNOwecan’ts ought to be ashamed of.

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Jm

January 23rd, 2013
9:03 am

Jay is obsessed with Benghazi

And guns

You left out GLOBAL WARMING.

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Face it, when the left was told the attack was over a video they accepted it as fact. Now the video story has been exposed as a lie and the left acts as if they have been correct the entire time. The
“cons” as some call them knew all along this was not over a video and fools did believe it. Someone lied about the supposed spontaneous attacks and liberals don’t want to hear the truth. The ambassador sent several emails asking for more security and was ignored, then murdered. Obama knew his supporters are gullible enough to believe a story about a 3 month old video led to Stephens death, the right was not. The only reason Hillary is giving testimony is because repubs proved the video story to be a hoax. If it were up to Obama, the blame would still be placed on the video and the left would still be believing that made up nonsense.

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Fred,
Age didn’t matter to Ronnie. If, by 2016, she is mentally and physically healthy, I see no reason why she couldn’t.

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VA Senate Pushes Gerrymandering Bill Through During Inauguration

The redistricting would potentially eliminate one democratic seat in the Virginia senate by creating one district that is predominantly minorities, and in doing so allowing Republicans to gain control of nearby districts.
Democratic Leader Richard Saslow (D-Fairfax) says that Democrats will challenge the measure in court if it passes the House. “If this plan stands, there will be litigation, you can be sure of that,” he told reporters. “The Virginia Constitution says that the Virginia General Assembly shall redistrict in 2011 and every 10 years thereafter. This will be struck down. The collateral damage from this thing will be immeasurable. This isn’t the last we’ve heard of this.”

This just shows how low and underhanded the RepugNOwecan’ts are.

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Bob

January 23rd, 2013
9:15 am

Face it, when the left was told the attack was over a video they accepted it as fact.
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nope. When RUSH told YOU the left believed that you took it as gospel because to be truthful, you aren’t the sharpest knife in the chandelier.

The truth is that you haven’t a freaking CLUE as to what the left believes. All you know is what FOX and talk radio tell you to believe.

But keep on with your hate filled angry FOXBOT lies. They worked so well for you in the last election.

oh, BTW, did you know that today is National Pie Day? have a pie of pie, it may help sooth that burning feeling in your little tummy left there by all your seething anger and irrational Obama hate.

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Jm and the other half: If you don’t like it, go somewhere else! Get Kyle out of bed!

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T. O. Half — “Face it, when the left was told the attack was over a video they accepted it as fact.”

Face it, a lot of us here on the left said ‘let’s wait for the facts to come in.’

But don’t let reality get in the way of your baseless little rant.

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Doesn’t McCain have some unskewed polling data showing that he is supposed to be the president.

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“Hopefully, her testimony will put an end to this farce.”

Amen, one way or another.

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You don’t think she would ever LIE, do you?

Laying the groundwork in advance for non-factual claims of “lies” because without evidence the clownish have already determined with Fox what the situation was in Benghazi as they have with Fast and Furious, with birth certificates…….. Facts and evidence no longer matter to the conned, they have their narrative fictions, their hatred, their ODS. No stinkin facts or evidence needed.

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At least if wasn’t a marine barracks, eh ?

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Here goes Hillary! Spouting facts about the plots caught before a crisis set in. Also pointed out the number of recent issues addressed by her staff. 99% of “attacks” thwarted.She stated all have each other to protect our assets, and she trusts them to protect her life!

Go Hillary!

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Fred, You obviously didn’t watch or listen to any news stations when it all came down, you are totally WRONG

Nope. I’m absolutely correct. You are taking actual events and portraying them in a false manner. YOU are worng. And a FOXBOT puppet spewing their hate filled angry little lies.

How’s that working out for you? Didn’t seem to go so well in the last election………..

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Once Hillary releases her statement acknowledging that she will arm all ambassadors with AR-15’s, the NRA will give her a 100% perfect score. McCain loses again.

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T. O. Half — “If you can’t tell the difference between a lie & the truth then that’s your problem.”

The difference is not ‘whichever one happens to sound good and agree with you.’

Just sayin’.

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rFor the US to bomb and basically destroy a country and assassinate its head of state on worldwide television, and then for diplomats to go in, those diplomats have to realize that they’re not innocent. They are parties in a major war crime. So they have to on guard for that. To think there’s going to be normal diplomatic relations in a country like Libya – that’s totally unstable as a result of NATO intervention – is a bit naïve by western pundits and politicians in Washington and London. No one is innocent anymore. This is the new paradigm of Western aggression that they have to accept as a reality.
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Silly progs……………Phycothic war criminals NEVER punish their own.

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Move along.

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At the end of the day, the president will still be president and the hate will be shown in public again.

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Fred and Marty, a couple links for you downstairs, if you care to look.

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Well at least Hillary recovered from the concussion. That coulda been almost as serious as when she was dodging that hail of gunfire in bosnia.

Let’s get it outta the way early: you’re a bunch of foxbot, hannity, limbaugh, boortz listening right wing nuts! Whew! I know at least one kook now feels better.

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Benghaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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So the premise of this entire article is that the only issue that’s really raised by the Benghazi incident is the shameless attempt by conservative media to smear Hillary Clinton, with maybe a few “operational” issues that could be looked at to improve in the future?

Not a single word in the way of critical scrutiny of the US drive to position itself in a deeply unstable N African region and its extremely dangerous policy of relying on Al Qaeda-linked groups to topple regimes and fuel on that very destabilization?

All that matters is playing the FOX News tit-for-tat game, I guess.

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what a country

hope she can remeber after her fall and concussion.at least she has never wore a wig as ridiculous as the mop mooochell wore god how hilarious

What’s the matter. You run out of Viagra.

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NO, because if you do your homework then you will know the difference.

You should try that then.

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4,486 dead Americans in Iraq

32,223 wounded Americans (20% of which are serious brain or spinal injuries)

Over $1 trillion American taxpayer money spent, and up to a half-trillion more spent caring for the wounded.

When can we expect the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Iraq?

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“WOW! Freddy is upset, he is already into the name calling. Thin skin?”

Are you surprised??? He always resorts to name calling.

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Hillary – guess she can’t be much worse than what we have now but I think I will pass on her ’cause she’s just another PARTY LOYALIST.

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T. O. Half — “NO, because if you do your homework then you will know the difference.”

Well, tha’s you right out then, because I don’t recall you asking me or any of my lefty friends what we thought about the attack in Benghazi. But that lack of homework on your part doesn’t seem to have dimmed your enthusiasm for making bulldada up and claiming we all agree with it.

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Sooth – that dirty trick in Virginia is the way that the right wingers will attempt to take over this country and impose their will/ideology. Yes, it is a dirty trick but this is how they operate, they yell and scream about King Obama but in the background they are trying things like to make sure that they will have a permanent majority at the state and federal level regardless of how the census data works. They will continue to use gerrymandering to keep themselves in power.

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While irrelevant now, it is a good thing to examine the political issue at hand which is whether there was a intentional delay in getting the facts out due to political motives at the time. Nothing wrong with that. If there was, so be it.

I heard the first 25 minutes and it took 19 of blather before she spoke. Of course within 3 minutes she jumped on the political issue by saying she told BO that it was a terror attack and she was in the rose garden when he said the same thing..it’s clear that the defense is already being laid…

Anyone has to admit that the fact that it happened on 911 in the final throws of a presidential campaign, certain political motives exist that otherwise wouldn’t..

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A brave Ambassador died doing his duty and mistakes in communication
should not be politically exploited to diminish his memory.

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Bill Orvis White

January 23rd, 2013
9:38 am

I don’t think either Clinton is incompetent, especially if the bar is any other existing elected or appointed politicians. IMO she has done as good a job as any per job description it’s just that the necessity of us making the world a democratic place while setting an example of warmongering and regime change isn’t something any thoughtful society would aspire to…bring them all home.

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First, Go Fred! Next,Thanks Soothsayer! For shining a light on the Virginia Republican dirty tricks to break the law and seize power over the legislature during the president’s inauguration when a Democratic senator was in attendance. Shame on them! This really does need more media coverage. Right now, Secretary Clinton is speaking. My bet is that she can handle these red-faced hyperbolic angry white-man group over which Mr. McCain presides.She’s tough! Plus, she’s smarter than they are. And, I’ll bet her dad could beat up their dad. So, there.

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Gale

January 23rd, 2013
9:29 am

Fred and Marty, a couple links for you downstairs, if you care to look.
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No thanks. Unless they are to the scientific studies which show the physiological damages that occur from giving boys hormone blockers I doubt they are anything other than propaganda. And no I don’t think prepubescent little boys are qualified to decide if they want to experience those damages so they can play with dolls.

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I suspect McCain will continue to portray himself as the sore loser especially given that there is no acting required for him to fill the role.

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Incompetent Bush put on quite a show. He’s slick like his bubba pappy getting away with being incompetent which led to the loss of patriots who gave all. The media has been right about “him” from the day “he” got on the national stage: the “man” cannot be trusted. “He” is power-hungry and wishes to grab the reins of this once-free nation his pappy once ruled. Amen, Shrill

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4 people are dead…isn’t this serious enough?

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MiltonMan

January 23rd, 2013
9:35 am

“WOW! Freddy is upset, he is already into the name calling. Thin skin?”

Are you surprised??? He always resorts to name calling.
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Rather than spewing hate filled lies, perhaps you should point out the name called? Excuse me if I don’t hold my breath waiting for you to make up another lie to substantiate the first one.

Nice gossipm btw Milton Man. It’s what you FOXBOTS do. Keep repeating gossip and lies. Why I’ll bet even Dommy will chime in and repeat that which has no truth to it.

You sad little men. Your hate, fear, jealosy, and anger are going to eat you up.

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alex: “An open airing by the Top person in the responsible Dept. is LONG over due and is an embarrasement to this administration”

But you’re falling into the same trap by buying the idea that the Benghazi attack is really just a question of management or competence in the narrow sense, essentially an organizational and logistical question.

Instead, the attack in Benghazi should be seen for what it was, an entirely political event, with political implications.

And now that we see events spilling into Mali, with David Cameron saying that this is an issue that will “require a response that is about years, even decades, rather than months”. Watch for Obama to echo these sentiments.

And Americans think they’re about to be done with all of the wars?

Heh. They got another thing coming.

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Fred ™

January 23rd, 2013
9:38 am

Is anyone suggesting that sans the video, this event wouldn’t have occurred? Sometimes the simple explanation is the correct one….It was 911 and we got attacked. The administration put forth information that turned out to be later recanted. It was an election year. Of course it’s controversial…there are motives on both sides to exploit this..BO et al did not favors in the handling of this mess…all he really had to do was make sure what was put in press was simply “we don’t know yet”..

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“I’m betting they don’t”

I am betting they can’t.

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Fred

WHen you are well and truly done wiping the floor with “The other half of your brain.”,
don’t forget to wring and rinse and hang out to dry.

Very well done.

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Its laughable at the dems on the panel. Is it possible to kiss her azz any more than they are… they are slobbering all over themselves…. Barbara Boxer makes me sick….

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Fred, whatever, I am sure our opinion counts for more than those in the medical profession. After all, you were a little boy and all little boys are just like you were.

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Fantastical Fred with the foxbots card for the umpteenth time today. Must be that fantastical photographic memory that allows him to remember to scream foxbot day after day.

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4 people are dead…isn’t this serious enough?

Were there AR-15’s involved? Was a con’s 2nd Amendment right threatened? Did Wal-Mart run out of .223 rounds?

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I wonder if Hillary’s memory will be any better than Bill’s?
An excerpt from http://prorev.com/legacy.htm

FROM THE WASHINGTON TIMES: In the portions of President Clinton’s Jan. 17 deposition that have been made public in the Paula Jones case, his memory failed him 267 times. This is a list of his answers and how many times he gave each one.

I don’t remember – 71
I don’t know – 62
I’m not sure – 17
I have no idea – 10
I don’t believe so – 9
I don’t recall – 8
I don’t think so – 8
I don’t have any specific recollection – 6
I have no recollection – 4
I just don’t remember – 4
I have no specific recollection – 3
I might have – 3
I don’t have any recollection of that – 2 I don’t have a specific memory – 2
I don’t have any memory of that – 2
I just can’t say – 2
I have no direct knowledge of that – 2
I don’t have any idea – 2
I can’t remember – 2
I can’t say – 2
I do not remember doing so – 2
Not that I remember – 2
I’m not aware – 1
I honestly don’t know – 1
I have no other recollection – 1
I’m not positive – 1
I don’t really remember – 1
I would have no way of remembering that – 1
I honestly don’t recall – 1
I honestly don’t remember – 1
I don’t have an independent recollection of that – 1
I don’t actually have an independent memory of that – 1
I’m just not sure – 1
Nothing that I remember – 1
I simply don’t know – 1
I would have no idea – 1
I don’t know anything about that – 1
I don’t have any direct knowledge of that – 1
I just don’t know – 1
I really don’t know – 1
I can’t deny that, I just — I have no memory of that at all – 1

I (southpaw) deleted a few other lines that looked to me like he did remember something. These that remain still add up to about 240 times.

“Gee, that concussion has messed with her memory.” You heard it here first.

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willie lynch!! Thank God that someone else see’s this as I do. Come on Cons, where’s that personal responsibility?

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“Several Egyptian members of the squad of militants that lay bloody siege to an Algerian gas complex last week also took part in the deadly attack on the United States Mission in Libya in September, a senior Algerian official said Tuesday. ”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/23/world/africa/some-algeria-attackers-are-placed-at-benghazi.html?_r=0

This is what happens when you claim it was a spontaneous attack caused by a video to help you get re elected instead of telling the truth to begin with and going after the terrorist.

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Maybe they’ll ask Hillary how the subpoened Rose Law Firm billing files got from the Rose Law firm in Arkansas to the White House. I’ve always wondered about that.

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td

so now the video DOES cause attacks???

ain’t that ironic???

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Wow, nice piece of journalism. Love the TMZ and Deadspin ‘esque flavor. Absolutely, love it. Atlanta, we need more Jay. Keep it coming baby!

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Fred ™

January 23rd, 2013
9:54 am

GALE

I’m a little boy too. At least mentally and I wear it like a badge of honor…

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Almost 4,500 dead Americans and suddenly we have an inept administration. What a joke!

As the far left and far right often do they miss the fact both both administrations are a joke. btw- it didn’t happen suddenly.

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Td,

Lib solution=throw money at it.

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Come on yall, only me and willie beleive that someone should take responsibility when they screw up, even if it costs them their lives.

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Fred ™
Thanks, but it was the other half of your brain that did all the work.

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Tealiban Party

January 23rd, 2013
9:59 am

“And another of your boys didn’t even think about Bin Laden, because “It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”

Seal team 6 killed Bin Laden and has that stopped all the terror attacks?

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Thomas

January 23rd, 2013
9:58 am

Yup, why do we feel value in being a world “leader” with the quest of spreading our brand of democracy across the globe?

As long as we have a dysfunctional system our mission statement as respects everything from guns, immigration, warmongering, empire building will all remain dysfunctional…

I’m personally ashamed of our reputation abroad and our continued use of proven flawed tactics to address…we are a bully. It’s shameful we value such an overkill financially and practically in defense…

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Paul, it would be nice. I would love to see Hillary do that. Who knows, perhaps she will given her stature and potential Presidential campaign.

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Thanks for not taking Doom’s misogyny-drenched bait, folks.

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Hilary Clinton is among that last people I’d ever want to be sitting across a mike from in an attack posture. Each one of the blue-bell-ice-cream-ribbon panel members better have three lines on each “t” and three dots on each “i” or they’re going to get creamed quite publicly.

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“{Hillary, like all dems, is a dutiful detractor. She will lie by omission.”

Cal – this comment tells us a lot more about you that about Secretary Clinton – just sayin’.

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Special for td —

Face it, a lot of us here on the left said ‘let’s wait for the facts to come in. (from the outset)

There I helped you become honest after all.

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GG and Fred
let’s be clear….you both blame Stevens?

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godless heathen – owner of many things he does not need

January 23rd, 2013
9:55 am

It amazes me how after 3000+ Americans are killed on 9/11 and numerous people killed for an unjustified invasion of Iraq some people still have more concerns about trivialities such as the Rose Law Firm than they have about a President and VP who wouldn’t go before the committee investigating the single most devastating attack on our shores. Bush and Cheney refused to be recorded or be put under oath and would not appear unless they could do so at the same time together in the same room. This raises many more flags for me than this current dog and pony show would ever could.

But I guess when you have nothing else….

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Fred, do you know that no protest was even going on in front of the embassy ? So when we were told that the protest broke out into a spontaneous attack that was a flat out lie. Repubs did not blame the attack on a protest that got out of hand, someone in the Admin did. Foxnews did report that no protest was taking place and they seemed to be right about it. How long after fox broke that story did abc, cbs or nbc report on it ? You can bash fox all you want but you and many others wanted the video story to be true, it was a lie told by Obama and Rice after they knew no protests were taking place in front of the embassy.

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Stands,

So where’s the mysoginy? And are you still calling Asians insects? If you are then perhaps some sensitivity training is in order.

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Keep Up

It’s Rubio and Clinton on now (can listen live on CSPAN 3 on internet). They’re having a decent discussion.

Okay, gotta say it… Rubio looks like he… oh, what’s the phrase…. oh yeah…. “lacks experience.”

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“Seal team 6 killed Bin Laden and has that stopped all the terror attacks?”

td – That’s a strange question. Why do you ask?

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I’m just a fly on the wall here, but it seems to me that even arming the men assigned to protect the Ambassador with the infamous Military version of the Bushmaster would have been like giving Custer more ammo. They still would have been under manned and out gunned.
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But as an aside, I just purchased 10 boxes of Winchester Super-X Centerfire Rifle Ammunition X220S, 220 Swift, Pointed Soft Point, 50 GR, 3870 fps,in 20 round boxes at 40.00 dollars per box. I know it’s not much but it is at least, 400 rounds of ammunition that will never be used. They will sit in my closet and never see the light of day. Like I said, it’s not much but I just had to do it.

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If McCain is so bright he should have paid attention in his flight school and done a better job in Vietnam. He screwed up for sure and he should be man enough to acknowledge that before he starts throwing lies at others.

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Hillarys testimony transcript- Um. I don’t remember.

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“Here’s a thought…when is the last time the MSM criticized BHO? It simply doesn’t happen because of media bias”

…or, just maybe, it doesn’t happen because themedia look for facts, instead of just waiting for Rushbo to tell them what reality should look like…

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Regnad Kcin

January 23rd, 2013
10:14 am

“Seal team 6 killed Bin Laden and has that stopped all the terror attacks?”

td – That’s a strange question. Why do you ask?

Because Obama kept eluding to the fact in the campaign that Osama is dead so we do not have to worry about terrorist any longer.

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Corbin – I just purchased 10 boxes of Winchester Super-X

I’m a fan of Winchester’s shiny brass

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Yep the liberals will accept Hillary apology for not being proactive–just like the Clinton’s did with Osama Bin Laden! Yes they are reactive and not proactive. Maybe they did not want to hurt anyone’s feelings.

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Oooohhhhh…. Hillary’s telling the Senators “look, this was how the Senate used to do their ongoing oversight in partnership with State. It’d be helpful if you’d do that ’cause you’ve dropped the ball.”

Slam!

Okay, so he’s a lot more subtle than I suggested. But the message does come thru, loud and clear.

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Hillary is kicking a$$! I’m impressed with her memory and breath of her response.

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The rehearsals are over, everyone knows their lines, time to go live………We will only hear what has been prepared for us to hear…….media will regurgitate the right and left opinions

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Thanks for not taking Doom’s misogyny-drenched bait, folks.

Is you is or is you ain’t his constituency.

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td

“Because Obama kept eluding to the fact in the campaign that Osama is dead so we do not have to worry about terrorist any longer.”

Cite? Should be easy to provide. I could look but I don’t feel like looking thru Rush’s site -

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Erwin’s cat

January 23rd, 2013
10:10 am

GG and Fred
let’s be clear….you both blame Stevens?
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I do. Don’t know about GG. He was told by his EXPERTS and security staff that he was not safe going there and that they couldn’t protect him. He decided he knew better than the brain dead knuckle draggers, paid killers, ect. Sorry like I said, I’ve had to deal with folks like this before and have a low opinion of them. Ivy league asses who figure anyone who is in or was in the military was there because we were just too stupid to do “real” work.

I find State Department types to be the worst of the arrogant elitists there are.

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Paul

January 23rd, 2013
10:22 am

td

“Because Obama kept eluding to the fact in the campaign that Osama is dead so we do not have to worry about terrorist any longer.”

Cite? Should be easy to provide. I could look but I don’t feel like looking thru Rush’s site -

I guess you never listened to any of Obama’s stump speeches so you are lost and I will not do the research for you. If you are going to be on a political blog then it helps if you actually understand politics.

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Heh, fred @10.18, I read that definition:

Something that dumb broads who can’t spell complain about.

given that this is how Doom chose to spell it, I guess at least one person (the author of that Urban Dictionary entry) must presume Doom is a “dumb broad.”

I’ll remain neutral on that issue, myself.

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Sen Johnson doesn’t like Hillary challenging him on his assertion the administration lied.

Hillary’s in lecture mode.

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You can bash fox all you want but you and many others wanted the video story to be true

You haven’t a clue as to what I do and don’t believe you FOXBOT lie spewing person. You are so far from the truth that your nose should be be able to drop snot on Benghazi if you blew it from your house right now.

You FOXBOTS need to quit listening to your programmers and watch the world around you. THEN you might know what other folks who think actually DO believe.

Until that day? You are beneath contempt. All you do is repeat the same FOXBOT lies that the talk shows hosts do and to me that labels you as very much lacking in intelligence.

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Donovan 10:16.

Nice rant. Feel better?

Just one little problem. Your diatribe sets up an absolute opposition between “libs” and some other group, your group, presumably “conservatives”, as though there’s a huge difference here.

And the fact is, your Bush and Cheney people were a catastrophe.

So as far as a soap box to stand on and pronounce judgment on the current people, you got NOTHIN.

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“Because Obama kept eluding to the fact in the campaign that Osama is dead so we do not have to worry about terrorist any longer.”

^^^^Proof that td just makes stuff up^^^^

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Erwin

Blame? That’s a wee bit strong, kind of like saying a soldier killed in Afghanistan is to be blamed for
his own death.

Both the ambassador and the soldier made the choice to be where they were. Eyes open and
aware of the danger.

Can you see the difference?

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Regnad Kcin

January 23rd, 2013
10:25 am

“Because Obama kept eluding to the fact in the campaign that Osama is dead so we do not have to worry about terrorist any longer.”

td – I think you’re lying. Prove it with a linkee, or own the lie.

I do not care what you think. It would not matter if I showed you pictures of Obama molesting young children you would still ignore it and kiss his feet if he stood next to you.

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guy @10:19 – Like I said yesterday, none of us will ever really know the truth.

I’d have to say that I am in this camp…at least as far as the private sector is concerned

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Stands,

I’m surprised I haven’t had more misspellings. I’m on my Droid.Boring seminar so Ild rather play with my toys. So have u enlisted for sensitivity training yet after making that racist comment last month calling Asians insects?

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now I supposed to answer for one of the greatest military strategists of all time?

Really? Have you ever gone to Gettysburg and looked over the terrain that so called greatest military strategists of all time forced Pickett to cross?

Maybe Mr. Lee should have followed a TRULY great military mind, Longstreet, and left that place to fight somewhere else………. just saying…….

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you and many others wanted the video story to be true

Can’t speak for others, but I have posted here several times exactly why I thought the “video story” would’ve been every bit as damaging to Obama’s re-election prospects if it had turned out to be accurate. I have challenged conservatives to provide solid evidence for why I was incorrect, and I got absolutely nothing of consequence in reply.

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“td – I think you’re lying. Prove it with a linkee, or own the lie.

I do not care what you think. It would not matter if I showed you pictures of Obama molesting young children you would still ignore it and kiss his feet if he stood next to you.’

td – your admission of lying is gracefully accepted…

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“It’d be good to hear Sec Clinton end a question with “Now, Sen or Rep X, you alleged (quote him). Do you have intelligence we at State are unfamiliar with that supports your accusation?””

She might very well do something like that. I wouldn’t put it past her!

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.Obama said stop the name calling

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td:, At the speed and depth of her response, she knows her S**t, regardless of how long she had to prepare. She has not stumbled once, had a moment to arrange her response, she’s also taking notes for rebuttal, etc. I’m impressed!

I know nothing impresses you except yourself!

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If McCain has evidence for his claims, let’s see it. If there’s something so earth-shaking about the Benghazi tragedy that Clinton was quaking in her boots at the prospect of being asked about it, this would be the time to bring that information forward.

Oh please. If they don’t bring up anything this time they’ll just bellyache some more later about how they need to investigate more and yadda yadda. For the right wing, this is NEVER over.

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Run Hilary – Starbucks is having a Blonde Roast! Oh the humanity.

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CONS can’t out smart, out talk, out negotiate Liberals.

CONS are lacking in subtlety and sophistication.

The Benghazi Hearing IS A WASTE OF TIME.

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These boys is misogynated.

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DannyX

January 23rd, 2013
9:49 am

Regarding the truth, can you imagine how much we really don’t know about what is happening behind the scenes politically? My bet is that the less we know, the better for the status quo. Perhaps we only get half of every story for reasons not clear on the surface.

IMO, truth is premised on the idea of actually having all the “facts” including those we are not privy to, to ascertain the truth. The fact that we will never get all, is why so much grey area exists that ultimately turns from debate to insults..

One example that comes to mind is why did Romney pipe down on the issue after being briefed on such matters? We can politically speculate but we one thing is for certain, we likely don’t know half the story.

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Stands: given that this is how Doom chose to spell it, I guess at least one person (the author of that Urban Dictionary entry) must presume Doom is a “dumb broad.”

I try not to harp on typo’s and misspellings but that one was too rich to pass up. I was originally posting to see what the word meant because I didn’t know lol. As I was scrolling back up his post came up before yours so I just copy/pasted it not knowing it was incorrectly spelled.

How have I gone this long not knowing what misogyny meant? It’s certainly not the first time I ever heard or read it, I guess I just “blipped over” it before.

Oh well. I have to go figure out what’s wrong with this washer and dryer unit and fix it.

Ya’ll keep the hate filled angry little boys in line. Don’t let Doomy show his speedo………

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Bless her heart……..

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How have I gone this long not knowing what misogyny meant?

’tis like porn–you know it when you see/hear/smell/feel/touch it.

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I guess kreep isn’t the only one that fantasizes about me in a Speedo. Fred too I guess. No surprise there.UT

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Class of ‘98

January 23rd, 2013
10:30 am

Party affiliations aside, if Ms. Clinton has been unable to testify about Benghazi for over a month due to “health reasons”, is she fit to be Secretary of State?

And party affiliations aside, am I the only person terrified by the fact that Smilin’ Joe Biden is one heartbeat away from being POTUS?

I’m no big fan of Hussein, but I still hope he stays alive and healthy for the next four years.
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Hillary has resigned. But I’m not surprised you don’t know that. You rarelty care about facts before you post.

As to Biden? you aren’t alone. I think he’s a jackass too. But then when you think about it, did you really ant the last VP to ever become President? Cheney? I sure as hell didn’t.

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Too bad robert lee and granny godzilla couldn’t have been there as the great Americans they are to protect the compound when it was attacked.

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Welcome to the Occupation

January 23rd, 2013
10:15 am

From what I understand Ambassador Stevens went to this particular area because of his familiarity with the people and his perceived security amongst them. Now it should be said that he was secure in his movements among these people under Col. Quaddafi. Stevens may have believed his prior ease of movement was due to his own affability and congeniality and was not due to the environment created by the deposed leader but again this would place the responsibility for his demise on his shoulders.

It had been reported that Ambassador Stevens went to this area, an area “secured” by a local militia, without the prior approval of the State Department as it has been said he was known to do.

It was a mistake in judgment on the Ambassadors part but no one want’s to blame a man who was serving his country for his own demise even if the cause was simply his own bad call. It was just a mistake.

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Fred, I said on of the greatest, not the the greatest. Everyone makes mistakes.

Southpaw, I understood what you were getting at and decided that I did not need to enter into a “who’s a bigger macho man contest” with you so I tried to re-direct your agression. Silly me.

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Senator Ron Johnson had Hillary squirming in her chair and clearly rattled when he asked her why an immediate debriefing of the evacuees didn’t occur which would have prevented Rice and others within the administration from their mischaracterization of events that misled the American people. She tried to make the excuse that she wanted to wait until the FBI conducted their investigation. She tried to dance by expressing anger but it didn’t make her look good. Why the FBI????

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It always goes back to those “peaceful “Muslims……….

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guy

you mean you didn’t volunteer?

a big manly man like yourself?

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Corbin

Yes, she did.

McCain just came out swinging. This is going to be interesting.

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McCain’s show is on………

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“What is a FOXBOT ?’

My understanding: a person who believes and repeats things that FOX tells them, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary (see “unskewed polls”).

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T. Payer — “These boys is misogynated.”

I LOLed.

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Uh Huh….GOP grab a cigarette now that you have had your Benghazi “MOMENT”

January 23rd, 2013
10:37 am

If it is really nothing, why would you push so hard to discredit this before it’s done? Our money is wasted in every aspect of our budget…there is nothing wrong with examining this further given the motives and the timing. I’m sure you have nothing to worry about…as such, why not encourage hearings?

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I guess I’ll never find out what I typed that apparently bore some resemblance to an anti-Asian slur…

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Gonna give the kooks a reprieve and pay attention to the seminar. I’ll be back.

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Paul, sorry have been on a conference so had the sound off on the hearing. But Hillary does look like she is ready to tell McCain… “Are you done with your pout yet? Please proceed”

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Erwin’s Cat – thanks for the suggestion, I’ll look into that….I always need new reading material.

Guy, why on earth would I want to protect a compound in a backwards 3rd world desert? I spent time working for Reagan running around Central and South American back in the 80’s and had my fill then. Reagan’s complete and utter failure in Beruit, allowing the Marines to be killed by not allowing better security was enough for me.

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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

January 23rd, 2013
10:47 am

Agreed. Seems the velocity of the objective of the left is to sweep this, and other unpleasantries or challenges to the hero at hand, under the carpet as quickly as possible. Heaven forbid a bug appears on their windshield.

The GOP are no different but the current hero has taken the blame game and ball spiking to all new heights…all politician, no cattle.

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“We gotta get our act together” – Hillary is kickin’ butt.

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Regnad Kcin

January 23rd, 2013
10:48 am

“What is a FOXBOT ?’

My understanding: a person who believes and repeats things that FOX tells them, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary (see “unskewed polls”).
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DING DING DING!!!!!!!!!!!

We have a winner. But then he knew that already. The FOXBOTS are mindless but not THAT mindless. They surely can read and see that they post exactly the same thing at the same time as other FOXBOTS.

And this time I really will leave lol. Enough procrastination……. maybe…….

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Hilliary just threw Obama under the bus. LMAO. “we have to get the Senate and the Administration together on security”

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@Mr Right

January 23rd, 2013
10:48 am
Coons drooled all over himself praising Hilly!
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The Honey Boo Boo Klan is having its day.

They are redneckonizing.

Mr. Right grab a cigarette now that you have had your Benghazi “MOMENT”.

You FEEL better now?

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td – what part of the quote do you disagree with?

It might bear repeating that the video in question HAD already sparked violence, elsewhere. td and others seem to have forgotten that.

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stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2013
10:53 am

Seems the definition of “holy” has changed over time…what do you suppose it means today?

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0311

You love to post that but you never support your assertion.

Here’s what Jay wrote:

“1.) The premise of the entire debate is false, because the attack on our consulate in Benghazi was not an act of terror. An act of terror, by definition, targets the civilian population and attempts to inflict terror on that population. This was a military operation/assassination, targeted not at civilians but at the top American presence in Libya and, indirectly, at the armed guards who protected that presence. It was an attack on the United States and its interests.

Calling it an act of terror confuses the issue. However, we prefer that confusion. That confusion allows us to place this attack safely within our preferred War on Terror narrative and casts America as the innocent victim of nefarious, brutal men rather than as a major player contending for some share of power and influence in Libya, which is what we are.

September 11 was an act of terror. The truck bombing that killed 241 Marines in their barracks in Lebanon in 1983 was not an act of terror. Attacks on our forces in Afghanistan are not acts of terror. And neither was this.

2.) The Obama administration, for reasons that remain unclear, balked at calling it either an act of terror or a direct military operation. They initially preferred a third category, describing it as a mass protest that got out of hand. And while that characterization may have reflected initial and incorrect intelligence about the attack, they clung to that characterization long after it had become clear that it was false. ”

Now, maybe you can help us if your memory is clear enough to remember all those professional military education books you were reading as a low-ranking enlisted guy in a foxhole. Or maybe it’s from the briefings you attended later in life.

Care to define for us an act of terror vs a military action that contradicts what Jay wrote and draws a clear distinction between each?

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PAUL,

McCain hit the mat. Hillary is on a roll. Damn, she’s good.

Durbin seems to be rubbing it in…

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Keep Up

She zeroed in on Congress’s holds on funding to fix the problems McCain complained about.

Dang, he shoulda seen that one coming.

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@td

January 23rd, 2013
10:51 am
McCain just ripped Hilliary and Obama a new one.
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Did he do it with that CROOKED ARM?

I don’t think soooooo.

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Robert Lee – Cogito ergo zoom

January 23rd, 2013
10:52 am

Thanks for the historical comparison. It’s funny how so many fail to make the connection to prior events. Maybe because it would throw cold water on their agenda.

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The only thing I can figure is the cons are just into making fools of themselves on camera. At least this time it wasn’t a hidden camera so I suppose that’s a positive.

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Fred ™

January 23rd, 2013
10:50 am

Mr Right

January 23rd, 2013
10:43 am

What is a FOXBOT ?
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Do you have a mirror

Come on Fred (name caller in chief) you don’t have a name for me? It helps get your point across you know!

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“It might bear repeating that the video in question HAD already sparked violence, elsewhere. td and others seem to have forgotten that.

Pure horse doo doo and you know it. The video had less the 100,000 hits on youtube before the riots started.’

td – what does one statement have to do with the other?

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“truly an unexpected attack”………truly?…..ok

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D.Bum – agree. It will continue until “compromise” is no longer a dirty word…

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“Which ones are the “unholy” denominations, Scout?”

1) For starters ……. any that assist in the killing of our precious unborn.

2) Here’s another example given for any church or denomination who fits the description:

“To the angel of the Church in Laodicea write:

“These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.” Revelation Chapter 3

Have a nice day ! Work to do !

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in Green Bay, Wis., Obama said, “Thanks to sacrifice and service of our brave men and women in uniform, the war in Iraq is over, the war in Afghanistan is winding down, al Qaeda has been decimated, Osama bin Laden is dead.”

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-touts-al-qaeda-s-demise-32-times-benghazi-attack-0

Sounds like to me the President is saying that the war on terror is over.

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Because that was an entirely disgusting comment.

like Paul said.

X3

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One would think this would allow hearings so failings can be corrected in the future but yet Bookman plays it up as the GOP “having their day”. I think the Iran Contra hearings served our country well and it seems the shoe was on the other proverbial political party foot. Let’s just find out what went wrong and correct it from there and not try and gain political advantage one way or another on this sad episode.

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Paul, I’d have to agree. I think McCain is misguided, out of touch, and sometimes jsut a plain old ass, but he deserves respect for his service and what he was put through as a POW.

I’ve always admired an old quote from Voltaire, “I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it”.

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Regnad Kcin, precisely.

I have repeatedly said that the profligate spending under Bush was wrong and continues to be wrong under Obama. The compromise is quite simple… light tax increases on top wage earners while simultaneously implementing small spending cuts across the board. Everyone gets part of what they want and no hard-line approaches need to be taken.

What happens? I’m accused of lying about my opinions because I wasn’t here 5-6 talking about politics when Bush was in charge!

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Rand Paul is stating no one gets fired. There’s a big report. No one got fired. He’d have fired Hillary.

Hillary’s probably not going to ask who in Congress should be censured.

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Mr Paul is evil and mean!

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Mr. Digits…

How many precious unborn have you carried?

None?

Oh really?

You know nothing about it and it really is none of your damn business.

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It seems the liberals have gravitas using the word misogyny as often as they can! They do learn a new word and they all use for such a long time as a group.

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““Which ones are the “unholy” denominations, Scout?”

1) For starters ……. any that assist in the killing of our precious unborn.

I am about to spit you out of my mouth. You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’

So according to Scout, it’s most protestant churches and rich people.

O-kaaay….

Notice you left before educating us all on where Jay’s wrong on a terror attack vs a military attack.

Shame from a guy who spent so much time in a foxhole.

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“You know nothing about it and it really is none of your damn business.”

Yes it is. She did not become pregnant through fiat.

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I don’t give a rats behind about how MCCAIN got that CROOKED ARM.

You reap what you sow.

be careful what you sow there Uh Huh

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“Yes it is. She did not become pregnant through fiat”

You’re the sperm donator for her foetus? Interesting admission.

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Doggone/GA:

Watch Caddyshack and you will understand.

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@Robert Lee – Cogito ergo zoom

January 23rd, 2013
11:12 am
Paul, I’d have to agree. I think McCain is misguided, out of touch, and sometimes jsut a plain old ass, but he deserves respect for his service and what he was put through as a POW.

I’ve always admired an old quote from Voltaire, “I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it”.
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You can BEAT that POW dead horse all you like,

His spitefulness and nastiness OUT TRUMPS his service and

what he was put through as a POW.

He should be more HUMBLE and less nasty than he is.

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Uh huh

“Where was your outrage with the “digusting comments” about President

Obama and Michelle Obama.”

ASS-uming is bad for your rep.

I’ve also condemned others for their comments about the Pres and his wife.

Now, back to your disgusting comment about a tortured military member…..

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Rand Paul is despicable. Actually, at least two gentlemen in positions of power at State did resign.

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Redcoat

January 23rd, 2013
11:14 am

Mr Paul is evil and mean!

He is just telling it like it is and not drooling over her like the Dems!

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Uh HUh….

Less nasty??? Reap what you sow????

Can’t wait to see what you reap from all of your nastiness. Hopefully, it will be much worse than he went through.

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Off topic

Just had an email from a friend who’s no fan of Pres Obama, let alone Obamacare.

He changed insurance companies. Doc told him he needed big biopsies of his prostate. Insurance company told him they wouldn’t pay because he had a pre-existing condition (enlarged prostate). Would cost him thousands out of pocket.

Seems he just got a new insurance policy that covers pre-existing conditions thanks to Obamacare.

I asked him if he had better feelings towards the president and Obamacare.

Ideology vs reality, again.

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Mr Right….. “Mr Paul is evil and mean!”……what I’m expecting from Jay and friends…..

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Let the record show that Scout @ 11.07 still won’t name names.

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Best/funniest quote from Mr. Bookman thus far into 2013:

“…and a stirring version of the Star Spangled Banner by the lovely and talented Beyonce…”

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Tc – Two points: 1) Watergate PROVES (if you otherwise don’t believe what history teaches us) that sinister things happen in government and 2) it was ONLY because of some insider (who but corrupt people would use a porn reference as a codename?) leaking essential information that the truth was really known.

and…the cover-up is often much worse than the offense

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Well, well…maybe the 2nd Amendment is not the only right under assault – maybe speech that isn’t “politically correct” is in view at some point:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/23/in-graduate-thesis-john-brennan-argued-for-government-censorship-too-much-freedom-is-possible/

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Actually, at least two gentlemen in positions of power at State did resign.

refresh my memory–how many of Team Bush resigned over the failure to prevent 9/11?

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@Paul

January 23rd, 2013
11:19 am
Uh huh

“Disgusting comment?

Where was your outrage with the “digusting comments” about”

That’s called ‘diversion.”
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That’s called if a particular type of behaviour is acceptable for one person,

it should also be acceptable for another person.

If Obama can be called “Lazy” and “dumb” …..McCain can be called

“a crooked arm POW”.

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stands

“Let the record show that Scout @ 11.07 still won’t name names.”

Well… he IS consistent…..

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Paul

January 23rd, 2013
11:32 am

Someone needs to ask the committee members: how’re they gonna spend all this money of embassy security without raising the debt ceiling?

Maybe they can use some of the money being spent on Chevy Volts and the associated charging stations for starters?

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Senate ended.

Didn’t hear one senator offer any substantiation for their earlier statements. Just Johnson repeating the same stuff. That guy do like his mantras.

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Jerome Horwitz

January 23rd, 2013
11:22 am

“Actually, at least two gentlemen in positions of power at State did resign.”

They resigned from their political appointments but still got to keep their civil service jobs.

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Barrasso’s question about whether Hillary agreed with Obama that AQ has been decimated and her reply was interesting as it points out the flaw in Obama’s dependence on Drones. She did a good job of dancing by saying that she believed the AQ core has been decimated but that affiliated groups now represent the new threat. I think this underscores the danger that this administrations creates by its attempt to sanitize the war against terror by depending on drones, while losing touch with the importance of intelligence gathering. Our intelligence community should have known a lot more about what was going on in North Africa and other parts of the world with the growth of additional jihadists groups and the destabelization of Middle Eastern and African governments. Obama’s “peace in our time” comment during his inaugural address appears to be as inappropriate as his comments about AQ being decimated.

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Uh huh

You’ve already shown yourself to be the kind of person whose behavior is determined by the slights he feels from others, not by any higher principles.

I don’t care to engage further with you.

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Wonder if our whiny old man thought “Mission Accomplished” was inappropriate. Probably not. Buffoonish ODS failure.

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@Robert Lee – Cogito ergo zoom

January 23rd, 2013
11:31 am
Uh Huh 11:20 He should be more HUMBLE and less nasty than he is.

I could apply this to so many people I know but I exist here in reality and I don;t waste time thinking about what people “SHOULD” be doing.
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I know the CONCEPT of SHOULDA, COULDA, WOULDA.

IT is of no use to dwell on what should have (shoulda), could have ( coulda) or would have (woulda) happened/been done.

But the reality is we all have FREE WILL and should use it for

the betterment of society.

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If Obama can be called “Lazy” and “dumb” …..McCain can be called “a crooked arm POW”.

Be my guest, I refuse to stoop to your level of immaturity.

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DownInAlbany

It’s still spending past the debt limit.

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Uh Huh…….Obama said to stop the name calling!

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“Typical day at the Bookman blog. Anyone with a dissenting view is a “Foxbot.”

Or, if you’re black, an “Uncle Tom” (even is someone of Mamet’s stature considers you one of America’s best minds):

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/338261/do-gun-control-laws-control-guns-thomas-sowell

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If you look at the drone strikes in Africa, they are very low compared to Pakistan.

Most of aq in Africa are pirates and kidnappers.

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I am somebody

I am the night rider!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb1uDc_qa-4

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goofing on McCain’s mangled arm? not funny.

old faithful on metamucil erupting again.

now, that’s funny.

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Paul

January 23rd, 2013
11:42 am

My point is, you can’t spend all of your money on filet mignon and lobster tails and then complain when you don’t have money to buy toilet paper.

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“Maybe they can use some of the money being spent on Chevy Volts and the associated charging stations for starters?”

Come on, now. Who better than gubmint to determine what is a good business venture? Just consider the Post Office or Amtrak, for goodness sakes. Or, if you like more contemporary, immediate examples – Solyndra and some of the other stellar green companies? You must be ignorant or dumb.

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DownInAlbany

If you’re referring to just the State Dept budget, people need to keep in mind agencies are not free to shift funds to whatever they want. Congress issues the funds in various appropriations for specific purposes. Spending outside those specified purposes is a violation of law. Congress needs to give reprogramming approval.

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“My point is, you can’t spend all of your money on filet mignon and lobster tails and then complain when you don’t have money to buy toilet paper.”

Yes…food stamps only go so far.

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DownInAlbany…….yes we can!……complain…

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DIA — “My point is, you can’t spend all of your money on filet mignon and lobster tails and then complain when you don’t have money to buy toilet paper.”

FWIW, I agree with you on this, but only insofar as it can be conclusively established that State was wasting money on frivolities that could have been better spent on security and the like.

And, of course, bearing in mind that sometimes ambassadors like to throw fancy parties for the leadership and/or royalty of whatever nation they happen to be representing us in — so filets and tails aren’t *always* prima facie evidence of waste and bad judgment.

Can you perhaps establish that money was being wasted by the State Department and the Diplomatic Service?

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I am pretty sure Intel failed too but will get a free pass.

I think w’s reform to intel failed badly.

I don’t think we have much intel in Africa and would like to see a hearing on why.

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Paul,

I did not see one Senator that compete with the intellect of Hillary Clinton.

I think after serving in State, it made her a better President if she does not retire.

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Joe Hussein Mama

January 23rd, 2013
11:55 am

Can you perhaps establish that money was being wasted by the State Department and the Diplomatic Service?

It’s the federal government, isn’t it?

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Uh huh, take a breather look up the Forrester fire, watch the video,think about what Mcain went through in the “Hanoi Hilton” and get back to us……I, personally think Mcain would be best to retire, but I’ve met the man, read the books, watched the videos and quite frankly,what he went thru was quite extrodinary….

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Recon 0311 2533

January 23rd, 2013
11:53 am

I guess we will have to disagree. The Republicans did nothing in the way of proof of what they were implying. All in all, they looked like gelded roosters strutting to me…all dance and no action.

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Paul,

We could argue semantics but that would avoid what’s been occurring in the Middle East, North Africa, Central Asia and South East Asia. If you’ve been paying attention I think you’re well aware that the radical Islamic Jihadist movement is far from being decimated, destroyed, significantly reduced or no longer an effective fighting force. You can take your pick.

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Oh, is everyone enjoying how Hillary was totally TROUNCED by Republicans today?

Good, because I am here to remind you that Obama won and has four more years, and that the House Republicans caved on raising taxes and they suspended the debt ceiling.

You can have your Benghazi cake, but you can’t eat it too.

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“Now, if a Republican were in office, than Jay and his ilk would be screaming the EXACT SAME THING”

And we did..except we screamed about 4500 American DEAD

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DIA — “It’s the federal government, isn’t it?”

Come on, sir, I’m trying to meet you halfway here.

Can you definitively establish that they’re wasting money? I’m not saying that they *aren’t* — rather, I would like you to show me that they *are,* and perhaps *where* it’s being wasted. You know, what’s it being wasted on?

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getalife

“I did not see one Senator that compete with the intellect of Hillary Clinton.

I think after serving in State, it made her a better President if she does not retire.”

I can’t think of any Republican who’d walk into a debate with her feeling confident.

Joe Hussein Mama

DownInAlbany alluded to a good point. These agencies use huge sums for various things, some of which appear to be… excessive. From DoD pending a quarter mill (is that the right amount?) for a float in a parade to an agency refurbishing executive bathrooms for a gazillion dollars. It’s the nature of large organizations.

Which is why it drives me nuts to hear cons say ‘any cut to the Defense budget weakens our security!”

We’ve got to get off this idea that $ spent = security.

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Granny Godzilla

January 23rd, 2013
9:49 am

Fred

WHen you are well and truly done wiping the floor with “The other half of your brain.”,
don’t forget to wring and rinse and hang out to dry.

Very well done.

Granny, And I’ll let you wipe my ASS also.

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Towncrier

“Last I knew, they don’t teach either Latin, etymology or Roman history in the military”

You’re obviously not familiar with the campaign/history battles, results and influence on development of tactics and strategy covered in ROTC, the NCO academies, company grade professional military schools, or the field-grade pme schools.

But now you are!

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Looks like Hillary turned the Republicans political gold into a lump of coal!

Looks like Hillary will increase her favorabilty rating, look for Republicans to sink even lower.

How low can it get for the Republicans? They have already sunk below the Bush-Mendoza line. That’s horrible.

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Recon

Why are responses “We could argue semantics” when the main point (avoided in the answer) is whether or not AQ is in worse shape now than when Obama took office?

You are aware that those areas you cite are often independent from the mideast? Or their control? And I do hope you’re not advocating we have a military presence in all those areas just because we or they call themselves AQ.

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“The manner in which the opposition party in America has flipped and flopped and tried to make something out of nothing–the “nothing” being imagined chicanery and conspiracy to advance a phony explanation for the violence–is nothing short of baffling.”

And the rush to paint the attack as something it was not by the WH and SD (you know, instead of just saying – like we are investing the situation and are not able to conclusively say at this time..blah blah blah) and those who smooth over this (at best an) ill-advised approach are nothing short of baffling. I mean, what homicide detective (without knowing all of the facts) says in his first press conference that the serial killing in his city is due to a negative response to a movie about Aileen Wuornos (because one of the cops on the scene floated that hypothesis)? WHY would anyone do that – not to mention the “leader of the free world”?

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A Republican Senator had a bad reaction to the Clinton testimony saying, “Wow, we now wish she was still too sick to testify, this really backfired on us.”

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What we know:

Four people killed on U.S. territory.
Our government knew in the first day that it was a terror attack.
Two weeks later an administration spokesperson blamed the attack on protesters.
A week after that, Obama implied to the U.N. that protesters were partially to blame.

If this does not raise questions for some of you then so be it. For me it raises questions.

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We wouldn’t even have a discussion on this if we would keep out of that part of the world to begin with.

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Down in Albany – Maybe I’m confused on this but when someone signs up to be an mecenary, they kind of expect to be in harm’s way. Ambassador Stevens was told not to go to the unprotected areas and he chose to do so anyway.

Tell me, did the families of all the Marines who died in Beruit get their moment?

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Dang!

What we really DO know is that, in that part of the world, the difference between a terror attack and a prosters attack is minimal at best.

That it seems to be such a huge difference to those of your ilk shows both tool ignorance and deliberate Republican manipulation of said deluded.

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guy – have to agee. Should not be there at all. we can get our oil from north, central and south america. all that we need.

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R. Lee — “Tell me, did the families of all the Marines who died in Beruit get their moment?”

FWIW, one of the Marines that died that day was a high school friend of mine. What sort of ‘moment’ are you referring to, please?

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stands – makes it even more importaant to be careful about what you say.

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So each side is already claiming victory? Congratulations to all.

What little I did see was that Durbin made an ass of himself suggesting that bush had weapons of mass destruction pitch that turned our false…thus suggesting he is ok for the communication to be questionalbe or erroneous since Bush did it…of course on a larger and more murderous scale…

Another example of how desperately DEMS and BO want his legacy tied to BUSH..

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“What we really DO know is that, in that part of the world, the difference between a terror attack and a prosters attack is minimal at best.

That it seems to be such a huge difference to those of your ilk shows both tool ignorance and deliberate Republican manipulation of said deluded.”

indigo, Scout left some time ago. Would you please repost it when he returns? I’d really like to see his reaction to being labeled ‘ilk.”

Thanks!

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I would call for a classified intel hearing on why intel missed providing any warnings for 7 dead Americans in Africa.

I would cut them some slack because it is an almost impossible job and very dangerous but would want to know if they learned from it and fixed it or the reform failed.

That being said, Hillary absolutely destroyed johnson so bad mccain had to try to help him.

That was the highlight of this hearing.

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apropos of nothing, but the blogger Atrios recently reposted this

http://www.eschatonblog.com/2006/03/merkin-patriot-writes-letter.html

For those who, like me, continue to get some snarky enjoyment from the contributions by our own Redneck Convert, I thought you might appreciate another approach to such parody.

(the “MERKIN PATRIOT” character used to post frequently to Atrios’ blog.)

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MeCain loooked like his head was about to explode when Hillary was saying his judgement was clouded by his emotions and dismissing him as an old man wth issues.

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@td

January 23rd, 2013
11:53 am
Somebody is probably correct since a convicted murderer on death row is also “somebody”. A respected “somebody” I seriously doubt it.
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The rantings of the ignorant classes are the dangerous classes.

Cons are dangerous.

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rand thinks the SoS job is to sit at the computer reading cables all day.

rand is ignorant of government but he is a rookie so there is a learning curve.

Hopefully, he took this lesson Hillary owned him on and will learn from it but doubt he will.

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Hillary looked confident and took responsibility, Paul looked pathetic and McCain looked constipated.

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Delusional Randian SHEETZ.

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Erwin – 12:45

Those kind of posts suggest you desperately need to leave here and get back to your homeschooling work.

How do you ever expect to reach the 10th grade at this current pace of learning?

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She will lie just liike Bill!

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:For those who, like me, continue to get some snarky enjoyment from the contributions by our own Redneck Convert, I thought you might appreciate another approach to such parody.”

It is not so much parody as satire (a parody targets a specific original work rather than a kind of person). RC’s “contributions” are better, in my opinion (I actually enjoy them much of the time, even as a conservative). The piece to which you linked is too overt and unsophisticated (like the excessive use of misspellings).

You want an example of brilliant satire? Look no further than at Gulliver’s Travels. Gulliver is the narrator of the story, but he himself is an idiot. In studying that work, I once made a discovery no one else had: the illustration of the Word Machine of Lagado does not match Gulliver’s description! So not only is the device itself ludicrous and a satirical emblem of the “learning” of Swift’s time, but the narrative literature of the time (travel journals and so on) was also being satirized by a narrator who fawns over an idiotic device he can’t even accurately depict! THAT is funny.

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You tell it, Mattie!

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Jack

January 23rd, 2013
12:47 pm

Are you suggesting that there are any winners or losers in this crap? The circumstances surrounding the post-handling of the attack are suspicious enough to warrant a hearing. What is a win for you? That BO and his crew are found to have acted above and beyond the typical call of duty?

This “oh Hillary is winning and it’s close to a knockout’ commentary is of no value. All of us should want to get to the bottom of this regardless which party denies or which party spikes the ball…

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They didn’t call for Condi’s head because she isn’t Clinton. Don’t you know the Clintons are evil incarnate? If Clinton decides to run, there is nothing new the Rs can come up with against her. We have heard it all. And now, she has a much higher credibility rating.

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Nazi’s said that Jews were less than human as their enemies say the same thing today, American people said Blacks were less than human for centuries and now Democrats say that the unborn children that are unborn and aborted by murder( 50 Million) are less than human!!.

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Plain Truth, your analogy is not even close. Living talking adults are not comparable to foetuses.

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“DIA — “My point is, you can’t spend all of your money on filet mignon and lobster tails and then complain when you don’t have money to buy toilet paper.””

Use your left hand!

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“Stevens is a soldier who signs up for duty absolutely knowing the temperature of his job.”

So that makes incompetence ok, you can die as long as it is Hillary’s incompetence or putting herself ahead of her countryman. You can only think of Fox which is good because everytime you mention it someone will tune in and get both sides of the story.

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Williebkind there is a good argument Bush’s incompetence caused 9/11 but we dumb middle of the road people couldn’t figure out that was a time to make political hay we thought it was all of us being attacked.

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Paul:

Geez ………. the CIA, the FBI, the President, his press secretary and even Hillary said it was a “terrorist” attack !

But not JAY or PAUL !!!

Just one example:

2012 Benghazi attack – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack
“Carney said, “It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack. Our embassy was attacked violently, and the result was four deaths …”

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