With Hillary testifying, GOP gets its Benghazi moment
According to U.S. Sen. John McCain, the Obama administration has conducted a coverup of “massive proportions” regarding the assassination of Ambassador Christopher Stevens in Benghazi last year. Other Republicans have implied that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was so terrified of having to testify before Congress that she faked a major illness (”Benghazi fever”) to avoid the appearance.
Well, today will be the day to put up or shut up. Clinton will testify, alone, before committees in both the House and Senate. If McCain has evidence for his claims, let’s see it. If there’s something so earth-shaking about the Benghazi tragedy that Clinton was quaking in her boots at the prospect of being asked about it, this would be the time to bring that information forward.
GOP presidential hopefuls Rand Paul and Marco Rubio also sit on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, giving them the opportunity to do battle with a potential opponent in 2016, should they choose to do so. Clinton enters the hearing with 65 percent of America viewing her favorably, and only 29 percent unfavorably. After all the braying on the right about Benghazi, this is their chance to make the charges stick, in public.
Again, should they try to do so.
An investigatory blue-ribbon board appointed by the State Department has already outlined operational failures and deficiencies that contributed to the deaths of Stevens and three brave members of his team. It also calmly and factually repudiated fanciful claims by the conservative media that the Obama administration could have intervened militarily but chose not to do so.
That report implicated Congress as well, noting that “the solution requires a more serious and sustained commitment from Congress to support State Department needs, which, in total, constitute a small percentage both of the full national budget and that spent for national security.” The metric often bandied about in Washington is that the Pentagon has more authorized personnel in military bands than the State Department has professional diplomats.
Again, there is no question that the Benghazi tragedy revealed important lapses of judgment among State Department personnel, including Stevens himself, as well as institutional problems within the department. Clinton, who will soon be leaving office, has acknowledged those problems and pledged to correct them, a task that her probable successor, John Kerry, will have to continue. As part of its oversight function, Congress has every right to press Clinton on the progress she has made.
But since news of the Benghazi attack first broke, Republicans in Congress and the conservative media, led by Fox News, have tried to portray it as something much more sinister. McCain, for example, suggested that Benghazi was worse than Watergate, the scandal that ended Richard Nixon’s presidency. Such claims have always seemed grossly exaggerated based on the available facts, but again, if he and others have the evidence to back such hyperbole, this is their chance to present it to the American people.
I’m betting they don’t.
– Jay Bookman
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DannyX
January 23rd, 2013
9:49 am
Let’s get it outta the way early, If you can’t tell the difference between a lie & the truth then that’s your problem, you’re a bunch of foxbot, hannity, limbaugh, boortz listening right wing nuts!
BENGHAZI!
Itchy Finger
January 23rd, 2013
9:50 am
Its laughable at the dems on the panel. Is it possible to kiss her azz any more than they are… they are slobbering all over themselves…. Barbara Boxer makes me sick….
willie lynch
January 23rd, 2013
9:50 am
No one seems to want to place the blame where it should be and that’s with Ambassador Stevens. Wrong place wrong time.
Stevens was in a country that had/has no established government and was being secured by competing tribal militia’s whose allegiance’s have still not been secured by the U.S. Ambassador Stevens made a grave tactical error that cost his life and the lives of others and to dismiss this as the first cause is the disservice.
The “heroification” process need not take place here and neither should the demonizing of those who had no idea which way Ambassador Stevens freelancing would carry him.
Gale
January 23rd, 2013
9:50 am
Fred, whatever, I am sure our opinion counts for more than those in the medical profession. After all, you were a little boy and all little boys are just like you were.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
January 23rd, 2013
9:50 am
Yes its serious I jsut want to know if anyone feels like I do in that some responsibility rests on Ambassador Steven’s shoulders for not listening to his security people and going into a unsecured area.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
9:50 am
Fantastical Fred with the foxbots card for the umpteenth time today. Must be that fantastical photographic memory that allows him to remember to scream foxbot day after day.
Cal
January 23rd, 2013
9:50 am
Hillary, like all dems, is a dutiful detractor. She will lie by omission.
TaxPayer
January 23rd, 2013
9:51 am
4 people are dead…isn’t this serious enough?
Were there AR-15’s involved? Was a con’s 2nd Amendment right threatened? Did Wal-Mart run out of .223 rounds?
Fred ™
January 23rd, 2013
9:51 am
Yes you did and you should resist hitting the “submit comment” button as much as possible.
Freaking awesome Frog. Best post of the day so far. My jealousy that I didn’t think of that is exceeded only by my admiration of you that you DID think of it lol.
Here’s to you, golf clap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmjHT5GpAYQ
southpaw
January 23rd, 2013
9:52 am
I wonder if Hillary’s memory will be any better than Bill’s?
An excerpt from http://prorev.com/legacy.htm
FROM THE WASHINGTON TIMES: In the portions of President Clinton’s Jan. 17 deposition that have been made public in the Paula Jones case, his memory failed him 267 times. This is a list of his answers and how many times he gave each one.
I don’t remember – 71
I don’t know – 62
I’m not sure – 17
I have no idea – 10
I don’t believe so – 9
I don’t recall – 8
I don’t think so – 8
I don’t have any specific recollection – 6
I have no recollection – 4
I just don’t remember – 4
I have no specific recollection – 3
I might have – 3
I don’t have any recollection of that – 2 I don’t have a specific memory – 2
I don’t have any memory of that – 2
I just can’t say – 2
I have no direct knowledge of that – 2
I don’t have any idea – 2
I can’t remember – 2
I can’t say – 2
I do not remember doing so – 2
Not that I remember – 2
I’m not aware – 1
I honestly don’t know – 1
I have no other recollection – 1
I’m not positive – 1
I don’t really remember – 1
I would have no way of remembering that – 1
I honestly don’t recall – 1
I honestly don’t remember – 1
I don’t have an independent recollection of that – 1
I don’t actually have an independent memory of that – 1
I’m just not sure – 1
Nothing that I remember – 1
I simply don’t know – 1
I would have no idea – 1
I don’t know anything about that – 1
I don’t have any direct knowledge of that – 1
I just don’t know – 1
I really don’t know – 1
I can’t deny that, I just — I have no memory of that at all – 1
I (southpaw) deleted a few other lines that looked to me like he did remember something. These that remain still add up to about 240 times.
“Gee, that concussion has messed with her memory.” You heard it here first.
Tealiban Party
January 23rd, 2013
9:52 am
4,486 dead Americans in Iraq
Well if Rubio and McCain and their SFRC aren’t upset at this, can I at least get some outrage over there on Fox? Almost 4,500 dead Americans and suddenly we have an inept administration. What a joke!
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
January 23rd, 2013
9:52 am
willie lynch!! Thank God that someone else see’s this as I do. Come on Cons, where’s that personal responsibility?
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
9:53 am
Y’all quit making fun of Hillary. You have to admire anyone who dodged hundreds if not thousands of flying bullets in Bosnia and emerged unscathed.
td
January 23rd, 2013
9:53 am
“Several Egyptian members of the squad of militants that lay bloody siege to an Algerian gas complex last week also took part in the deadly attack on the United States Mission in Libya in September, a senior Algerian official said Tuesday. ”
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/23/world/africa/some-algeria-attackers-are-placed-at-benghazi.html?_r=0
This is what happens when you claim it was a spontaneous attack caused by a video to help you get re elected instead of telling the truth to begin with and going after the terrorist.
Fred ™
January 23rd, 2013
9:54 am
Gale
January 23rd, 2013
9:50 am
Fred, whatever, I am sure our opinion counts for more than those in the medical profession. After all, you were a little boy and all little boys are just like you were.
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I quote medical professionals Gale, NOT “opinions.” You know, the folks who study the facts of what the long term effects of these drugs are?
You may be of the opinion that you can fly, but I promise you the FACT of the matter is, if you jump off of the highest leg of spaghetti junction you are going to hit 85 or 285 with a wet thudding sound. Maybe a splat.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 23rd, 2013
9:55 am
Maybe they’ll ask Hillary how the subpoened Rose Law Firm billing files got from the Rose Law firm in Arkansas to the White House. I’ve always wondered about that.
Erwin's cat
January 23rd, 2013
9:55 am
So she’s not evil…just incompetent?
Granny Godzilla
January 23rd, 2013
9:56 am
td
so now the video DOES cause attacks???
ain’t that ironic???
Stevie Ray
January 23rd, 2013
9:56 am
AmericaShrugged
January 23rd, 2013
9:46 am
What is the difference between a blue ribbon committee and a simple committee? Is the name supposed to engender more credibility?
Another silly political game…
Jay scooped TMZ and Deadspin
January 23rd, 2013
9:56 am
Wow, nice piece of journalism. Love the TMZ and Deadspin ‘esque flavor. Absolutely, love it. Atlanta, we need more Jay. Keep it coming baby!
td
January 23rd, 2013
9:57 am
Typical lib response. We did not have enough money to keep everyone safe.
Stevie Ray
January 23rd, 2013
9:57 am
Fred ™
January 23rd, 2013
9:54 am
GALE
I’m a little boy too. At least mentally and I wear it like a badge of honor…
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
9:58 am
How much will Hillary remember? I dunno. Maybe she can conjoin heads with Fred and through osmosis attain fantastical freds photographic memory.
Thomas
January 23rd, 2013
9:58 am
Almost 4,500 dead Americans and suddenly we have an inept administration. What a joke!
As the far left and far right often do they miss the fact both both administrations are a joke. btw- it didn’t happen suddenly.
Tealiban Party
January 23rd, 2013
9:59 am
td
January 23rd, 2013
9:53 am
This is what happens when you claim it was a spontaneous attack caused by a video to help you get re elected instead of telling the truth to begin with and going after the terrorist.
It was your boy who said we shouldn’t “move heaven and earth” to go after terrorists. And another of your boys didn’t even think about Bin Laden, because “It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.” Can you point me to your posts of outrage for these comments?
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
10:00 am
Td,
Lib solution=throw money at it.
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
10:02 am
While these hearings follow a protocol, for once I would like to see an administration official be more than just a humble recipient of questions and accusations. It’d be good to hear Sec Clinton end a question with “Now, Sen or Rep X, you alleged (quote him). Do you have intelligence we at State are unfamiliar with that supports your accusation?”
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
January 23rd, 2013
10:02 am
Come on yall, only me and willie beleive that someone should take responsibility when they screw up, even if it costs them their lives.
Fred ™
January 23rd, 2013
10:03 am
Granny 9:49: Very well done.
Thank you.
barking frog
January 23rd, 2013
10:03 am
Fred ™
Thanks, but it was the other half of your brain that did all the work.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 23rd, 2013
10:03 am
Well, I just hate I won’t be able to watch much of Hillary’s testimony. I just got 10 minutes or so each break to watch inside the bars I haul to.
But I got to tell you, that woman is HOT! If she could just put on a couple hundred pounds she would really be hot. Heck, it would be a real pleasure to haul her to Ryans and see her put on the feed bag. It’s kinda sad to see her all skinny like that.
Anyhow, it’s real cold out here and I’m just hoping the heat goes out in the fancy offices where y’all work or maybe the roof collapses or something like that. Not that I want anything bad to happen to you.
Have a good Hump Day everybody.
td
January 23rd, 2013
10:04 am
Tealiban Party
January 23rd, 2013
9:59 am
“And another of your boys didn’t even think about Bin Laden, because “It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”
Seal team 6 killed Bin Laden and has that stopped all the terror attacks?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 23rd, 2013
10:04 am
Fred, you seem to have picked up some scum. Can you wipe your feet the next time you come in.
There sure is a lot of deflection and continued fiction without any facts or evidence by the conned.
Stevie Ray
January 23rd, 2013
10:06 am
Thomas
January 23rd, 2013
9:58 am
Yup, why do we feel value in being a world “leader” with the quest of spreading our brand of democracy across the globe?
As long as we have a dysfunctional system our mission statement as respects everything from guns, immigration, warmongering, empire building will all remain dysfunctional…
I’m personally ashamed of our reputation abroad and our continued use of proven flawed tactics to address…we are a bully. It’s shameful we value such an overkill financially and practically in defense…
Fred ™
January 23rd, 2013
10:06 am
Come on yall, only me and willie beleive that someone should take responsibility when they screw up, even if it costs them their lives.
Nope. I said the same thing from the get go. As someone who actually had to protect a dumb ass when he decided us “knuckle draggers” were too stupid to know if it was safe for him to go out in the “bush” I’m all over him being responsible. What sucks is the fact that others died for his arrogance.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 23rd, 2013
10:06 am
Paul, it would be nice. I would love to see Hillary do that. Who knows, perhaps she will given her stature and potential Presidential campaign.
joe
January 23rd, 2013
10:07 am
Bookman- you need to quit labeling everything that has a negative connotation to it as GOP or conservative. Do you really not think that mistakes were made by this administration regarding the lack of a rescue plan or even concern for the ambassador and his staff in this attack?
Instead of saying the GOP gets its moment, spare us your labeling and just say America gets its moment. If liberals like you and your ilk would stop your never ending bashing for anyone who dare questions your “ruler”, perhaps you wouldn’t be so distorted by the blinders you choose to wear.
Here’s a thought…when is the last time the MSM criticized BHO? It simply doesn’t happen because of media bias. Barry the great can do no wrong in your eyes…pathetic!
stands for decibels
January 23rd, 2013
10:07 am
Thanks for not taking Doom’s misogyny-drenched bait, folks.
Granny Godzilla
January 23rd, 2013
10:08 am
Robert Lee
I do agree that Ambassador Stevens (may he rest in peace) did make the choice to be where he was, when he was and does bear some responsibility.
MANGLER
January 23rd, 2013
10:08 am
Hilary Clinton is among that last people I’d ever want to be sitting across a mike from in an attack posture. Each one of the blue-bell-ice-cream-ribbon panel members better have three lines on each “t” and three dots on each “i” or they’re going to get creamed quite publicly.
southpaw
January 23rd, 2013
10:08 am
Robert Lee – Cogito ergo zoom
January 23rd, 2013
10:02 am
Careful. Others also believe in taking responsibility for screw ups, but we’re willing to take a shot (pun intended) at saving our own lives–with assault rifles if necessary. You really want to go there?
Regnad Kcin
January 23rd, 2013
10:09 am
“{Hillary, like all dems, is a dutiful detractor. She will lie by omission.”
Cal – this comment tells us a lot more about you that about Secretary Clinton – just sayin’.
td
January 23rd, 2013
10:09 am
“We were in Libya to get the guns”. That should go over well with the kooks that think if only people did not have guns then the world would be at peace.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 23rd, 2013
10:09 am
Special for td —
Face it, a lot of us here on the left said ‘let’s wait for the facts to come in. (from the outset)
There I helped you become honest after all.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
10:10 am
Looks like some garbage got dropped on the blog. Hee hee hee. Lib garbage in. lib garbage out.
Erwin's cat
January 23rd, 2013
10:10 am
GG and Fred
let’s be clear….you both blame Stevens?
stands for decibels
January 23rd, 2013
10:10 am
rut roh, the ajc.com hasn’t placed the “Testify, Hillary!” story on its homepage.
RB will be here bitching about that shortly.
willie lynch
January 23rd, 2013
10:10 am
godless heathen – owner of many things he does not need
January 23rd, 2013
9:55 am
It amazes me how after 3000+ Americans are killed on 9/11 and numerous people killed for an unjustified invasion of Iraq some people still have more concerns about trivialities such as the Rose Law Firm than they have about a President and VP who wouldn’t go before the committee investigating the single most devastating attack on our shores. Bush and Cheney refused to be recorded or be put under oath and would not appear unless they could do so at the same time together in the same room. This raises many more flags for me than this current dog and pony show would ever could.
But I guess when you have nothing else….
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
January 23rd, 2013
10:11 am
Joe 10:07. Do you really not think that Stevens made a mistake and now you’re telling us that someone somewhere else has to take the blame for not being able to pull him and his team out in time. What about personal responsibility?
Bob
January 23rd, 2013
10:13 am
Fred, do you know that no protest was even going on in front of the embassy ? So when we were told that the protest broke out into a spontaneous attack that was a flat out lie. Repubs did not blame the attack on a protest that got out of hand, someone in the Admin did. Foxnews did report that no protest was taking place and they seemed to be right about it. How long after fox broke that story did abc, cbs or nbc report on it ? You can bash fox all you want but you and many others wanted the video story to be true, it was a lie told by Obama and Rice after they knew no protests were taking place in front of the embassy.
Tealiban Party
January 23rd, 2013
10:13 am
td
January 23rd, 2013
10:04 am
Seal team 6 killed Bin Laden and has that stopped all the terror attacks?
Yeah I guess your google search of bookman posts came up empty too. For a second I thought I could remember you being upset about Romney not wanting to go after terrorists…. Guess not.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
10:13 am
Stands,
So where’s the mysoginy? And are you still calling Asians insects? If you are then perhaps some sensitivity training is in order.
alex
January 23rd, 2013
10:13 am
Jay, take a look at the comments of your participants….it is “journalists” like you who contributed to the partisan divide that now widely separates the right and left, If you want ANY resemblence of a civil “conversation” in your blog, you should tone down your vigorous bbias….You are just as bad as any Far right winger….belittling the opposition may be “sport” for some of you, but it gets us nowhere closer to the truth of the attacks….
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
10:14 am
Keep Up
It’s Rubio and Clinton on now (can listen live on CSPAN 3 on internet). They’re having a decent discussion.
Okay, gotta say it… Rubio looks like he… oh, what’s the phrase…. oh yeah…. “lacks experience.”
Uh Huh....GOP grab a cigarette now that you have had your Benghazi "MOMENT"
January 23rd, 2013
10:14 am
@Robert Lee – Cogito ergo zoom
January 23rd, 2013
10:02 am
Come on yall, only me and willie beleive that someone should take responsibility when they screw up, even if it costs them their lives.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Did you TAKE responsibility when you screwed up?
At Appomattox, Virginia, Confederate General ROBERT E. LEE surrenders his 28,000 troops to Union General Ulysses S. Grant, effectively ending the American Civil War.
Regnad Kcin
January 23rd, 2013
10:14 am
“Seal team 6 killed Bin Laden and has that stopped all the terror attacks?”
td – That’s a strange question. Why do you ask?
Welcome to the Occupation
January 23rd, 2013
10:15 am
willie lynch 9:50.
The only post I’ve seen this entire morning that begins to address the true larger issues involved.
That said, I still disagree that this is to be viewed primarily in the context of a personal error on Stevens’ part. Stevens was not there on a personal mission. He was there on official business. Amazing that our resident analyst, Jay Bookman, hasn’t offered any analysis of what the strategic goals of our involvement there might be.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 23rd, 2013
10:15 am
I’m just a fly on the wall here, but it seems to me that even arming the men assigned to protect the Ambassador with the infamous Military version of the Bushmaster would have been like giving Custer more ammo. They still would have been under manned and out gunned.
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But as an aside, I just purchased 10 boxes of Winchester Super-X Centerfire Rifle Ammunition X220S, 220 Swift, Pointed Soft Point, 50 GR, 3870 fps,in 20 round boxes at 40.00 dollars per box. I know it’s not much but it is at least, 400 rounds of ammunition that will never be used. They will sit in my closet and never see the light of day. Like I said, it’s not much but I just had to do it.
Fred ™
January 23rd, 2013
10:15 am
Thanks for not taking Doom’s misogyny-drenched bait, folks.
Maybe more people are following my lead and just ignoring his hate filled, fear induced, angry little boy rants and FOXBOT lies.
I didn’t know he had any rants today as I just scroll on past him. Screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice shame on me. I gave him plenty of chances to act like a human being. He failed every time. He could do it for a minute but then……..
fedup
January 23rd, 2013
10:16 am
If McCain is so bright he should have paid attention in his flight school and done a better job in Vietnam. He screwed up for sure and he should be man enough to acknowledge that before he starts throwing lies at others.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
January 23rd, 2013
10:16 am
ok southpaw, I’ll type slowly. Responsibility for your decisions. You automatically jump to something about assault weapons so I’m trying to bring you back to the topic here. If you make a decision, then you should be held responsible for that outcome, wahtever it may be.
Erwin’s Cat – yep that is EXACTLY what I’m saying.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
10:16 am
Hillarys testimony transcript- Um. I don’t remember.
Donovan
January 23rd, 2013
10:16 am
Hillary did nothing wrong and she should not be held accountable. After all, she was once the First Lady, who also “stood by her man” during the sexcapades of her adulterous husband as Arkansas governor, who lied about the missing Rose Firm law papers that were found in her WH bedroom, who ordered FBI dossiers on political rivals while in the WH, who summarily fired the WH travel department employees to install cronies, who was annointed senator representing NY even though she never lived there, and stays married to the serial philanderer as a marriage of convenience. Why would anyone not have faith and trust in this woman?
Oh, maybe because she represents the low character of a Democrat without values and honesty?
Let’s be truthful libs. She is looked upon as your next radical piece of trash that could represent your choice for the White House. She could represent the strong-willed woman that the MSM can mold and advertise as the next historic president.
The fact remains that she is a career politician who comes from the liberal ranks of academia and a chronic liar that always measures her answers in hesitant diction; sly as a fox, but uncatchable as a greased pig. She is the face of the Democrat Party and the master of deceipt.
Her grand moment of political theatre is about to take place. Her years of cunning liberalism will now be put to the test in a show trial of her acting ability. She will portray the leader of a department that oversees worldwide problems and inherent dangers, but not the one responsible for bone-headed decisions or failures that got people killed. Just as she has covered her rear end all her political life, she will exercise her confidence in doing the same under oath today.
Outside of the security blanket of her position, the MSM, and the auspices of the Democrat Party the laws of this country would have her arraigned on charges of accessory to murder.
This was a cover-up for the benefit of re-electing Obama and all you liberals know it. By supporting or denying such makes you all guilty by association. That being said, it makes you all accessories to murder, as well. Shame on you!
Regnad Kcin
January 23rd, 2013
10:17 am
“Here’s a thought…when is the last time the MSM criticized BHO? It simply doesn’t happen because of media bias”
…or, just maybe, it doesn’t happen because themedia look for facts, instead of just waiting for Rushbo to tell them what reality should look like…
Liberal Nightmare
January 23rd, 2013
10:17 am
Nothing to see here, move along…….
I keep trolling to see how long it take the great Cookman to write some long spill on how Odumbo is going to really get going on global warming, err I mean climate change this term. I predict by weeks end. Can’t wait to make him look like the ignoramus he is on the subject……
td
January 23rd, 2013
10:18 am
Regnad Kcin
January 23rd, 2013
10:14 am
“Seal team 6 killed Bin Laden and has that stopped all the terror attacks?”
td – That’s a strange question. Why do you ask?
Because Obama kept eluding to the fact in the campaign that Osama is dead so we do not have to worry about terrorist any longer.
Fred ™
January 23rd, 2013
10:18 am
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
10:13 am
Stands,
So where’s the mysoginy?
++++++++++++++++
LOL Normally I wouldn’t admit this BUT thisis too funny…..I read this by accident and googled mysoginy. Here is what the first result was:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mysoginy
Erwin's cat
January 23rd, 2013
10:18 am
Corbin – I just purchased 10 boxes of Winchester Super-X
I’m a fan of Winchester’s shiny brass
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
10:18 am
Fred speaks on little boy rants.
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Looks like his broken recorder uttered foxbot again. Bless his heart!
Williebkind
January 23rd, 2013
10:19 am
Yep the liberals will accept Hillary apology for not being proactive–just like the Clinton’s did with Osama Bin Laden! Yes they are reactive and not proactive. Maybe they did not want to hurt anyone’s feelings.
guy
January 23rd, 2013
10:19 am
If it were a republican the democrats would be having their Benghazi moment too. Shut the front door! Like I said yesterday,none of us will ever really know the truth.
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
10:20 am
Oooohhhhh…. Hillary’s telling the Senators “look, this was how the Senate used to do their ongoing oversight in partnership with State. It’d be helpful if you’d do that ’cause you’ve dropped the ball.”
Slam!
Okay, so he’s a lot more subtle than I suggested. But the message does come thru, loud and clear.
Liberal Nightmare
January 23rd, 2013
10:20 am
“…or, just maybe, it doesn’t happen because themedia look for facts, instead of just waiting for Rushbo to tell them what reality should look like…”
Dude, seriously…..now that was a funny statement…..scary you’d actually believe that, but funny non-the-less.
Road Scholar
January 23rd, 2013
10:20 am
Hillary is kicking a$$! I’m impressed with her memory and breath of her response.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
January 23rd, 2013
10:21 am
Uh Huh, what on God’s green earth are you talking about? The Civil war was over long ago and jsut becasue my southern family decided that they needed another Robert Lee XXXXXX, now I supposed to answer for one of the greatest military strategists of all time? Seems a stretch…….
Redcoat
January 23rd, 2013
10:22 am
The rehearsals are over, everyone knows their lines, time to go live………We will only hear what has been prepared for us to hear…….media will regurgitate the right and left opinions
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
10:22 am
Why did Fred post a link? I thought with his fantastical memory that he could just recite anything and everything at will. Truly fantastical.
TaxPayer
January 23rd, 2013
10:22 am
Thanks for not taking Doom’s misogyny-drenched bait, folks.
Is you is or is you ain’t his constituency.
stands for decibels
January 23rd, 2013
10:22 am
I do agree that Ambassador Stevens (may he rest in peace) did make the choice to be where he was, when he was and does bear some responsibility.
Yes. However, I think that rhetorically, “No one seems to want to place the blame where it should be and that’s with Ambassador Stevens”–it goes too far. “Blame” is a very loaded term. The people to blame for this are the murderous terrorists who slaughtered a good man and his colleagues.
And if I’m sounding like a hair-splitter by complaining about terminology, I might remind one and all that it was the “did he or did he not say ‘terror’” issue that basically decided who won the second Presidential debate. Words matter.
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
10:22 am
td
“Because Obama kept eluding to the fact in the campaign that Osama is dead so we do not have to worry about terrorist any longer.”
Cite? Should be easy to provide. I could look but I don’t feel like looking thru Rush’s site -
td
January 23rd, 2013
10:22 am
Road Scholar
January 23rd, 2013
10:20 am
Hillary is kicking a$$! I’m impressed with her memory and breath of her response.
When you have had 3 months to study what else do you expect.
Fred ™
January 23rd, 2013
10:23 am
Erwin’s cat
January 23rd, 2013
10:10 am
GG and Fred
let’s be clear….you both blame Stevens?
++++++++++++++++++
I do. Don’t know about GG. He was told by his EXPERTS and security staff that he was not safe going there and that they couldn’t protect him. He decided he knew better than the brain dead knuckle draggers, paid killers, ect. Sorry like I said, I’ve had to deal with folks like this before and have a low opinion of them. Ivy league asses who figure anyone who is in or was in the military was there because we were just too stupid to do “real” work.
I find State Department types to be the worst of the arrogant elitists there are.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
10:24 am
Hillary is badazz. A million Bosnian bullets couldn’t touch her!
td
January 23rd, 2013
10:24 am
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
10:22 am
td
“Because Obama kept eluding to the fact in the campaign that Osama is dead so we do not have to worry about terrorist any longer.”
Cite? Should be easy to provide. I could look but I don’t feel like looking thru Rush’s site -
I guess you never listened to any of Obama’s stump speeches so you are lost and I will not do the research for you. If you are going to be on a political blog then it helps if you actually understand politics.
Regnad Kcin
January 23rd, 2013
10:25 am
“Because Obama kept eluding to the fact in the campaign that Osama is dead so we do not have to worry about terrorist any longer.”
td – I think you’re lying. Prove it with a linkee, or own the lie.
stands for decibels
January 23rd, 2013
10:26 am
Heh, fred @10.18, I read that definition:
Something that dumb broads who can’t spell complain about.
given that this is how Doom chose to spell it, I guess at least one person (the author of that Urban Dictionary entry) must presume Doom is a “dumb broad.”
I’ll remain neutral on that issue, myself.
gadem also known as Benghazi
January 23rd, 2013
10:26 am
Have Republicans forgotten about Iraq and Afghanistan?! Those TWO wars have been major cluster f^(&@!, but they have selective memory when it comes to that.
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
10:26 am
Sen Johnson doesn’t like Hillary challenging him on his assertion the administration lied.
Hillary’s in lecture mode.
Uh Huh....GOP grab a cigarette now that you have had your Benghazi "MOMENT"
January 23rd, 2013
10:26 am
@alex
January 23rd, 2013
10:13 am
Jay, take a look at the comments of your participants….it is “journalists” like you who contributed to the partisan divide that now widely separates the right and left, If you want ANY resemblence of a civil “conversation” in your blog, you should tone down your vigorous bbias….You are just as bad as any Far right winger….belittling the opposition may be “sport” for some of you, but it gets us nowhere closer to the truth of the attacks….
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“Belittling the opposition?”
Check out Kyle Wingfield’s blog and read all of the nasty, vicious, racist,
disrespectful comments about President Obama, Michelle Obama and Liberals.
Then get back to us.
The ignorant classes on Wingfield’s blog are the dangerous classes.
Fred ™
January 23rd, 2013
10:27 am
You can bash fox all you want but you and many others wanted the video story to be true
You haven’t a clue as to what I do and don’t believe you FOXBOT lie spewing person. You are so far from the truth that your nose should be be able to drop snot on Benghazi if you blew it from your house right now.
You FOXBOTS need to quit listening to your programmers and watch the world around you. THEN you might know what other folks who think actually DO believe.
Until that day? You are beneath contempt. All you do is repeat the same FOXBOT lies that the talk shows hosts do and to me that labels you as very much lacking in intelligence.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
10:27 am
Aaaah! My 3rd court jester makes his appearance. Nontaxpayer do amuse me he do.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 23rd, 2013
10:28 am
Donovan 10:16.
Nice rant. Feel better?
Just one little problem. Your diatribe sets up an absolute opposition between “libs” and some other group, your group, presumably “conservatives”, as though there’s a huge difference here.
And the fact is, your Bush and Cheney people were a catastrophe.
So as far as a soap box to stand on and pronounce judgment on the current people, you got NOTHIN.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
January 23rd, 2013
10:28 am
And before anyone skewers me about General Lee, he was sadly mistaken to fight to support slavery and in doing so caused the deaths of tens(if not hundreds) of thousands of soldiers.
Regnad Kcin
January 23rd, 2013
10:29 am
“Because Obama kept eluding to the fact in the campaign that Osama is dead so we do not have to worry about terrorist any longer.”
^^^^Proof that td just makes stuff up^^^^
Road Scholar
January 23rd, 2013
10:29 am
Redcoat: She has answered EVERY question, regardless of source, in detail and emphatically! Even questions not directly related to Benghazi, Africa etc.. Anyone would be an idiot not to rehearse, but they have thrown everything so far at her and she has answered them emphatically, with detail, and with dignity.
She was just pressed about the alleged demonstration and handed the questioner his a$$! She was emphatic as she raised her voice in answering after the questioner continually interrupted her.
Granny Godzilla
January 23rd, 2013
10:29 am
Erwin
Blame? That’s a wee bit strong, kind of like saying a soldier killed in Afghanistan is to be blamed for
his own death.
Both the ambassador and the soldier made the choice to be where they were. Eyes open and
aware of the danger.
Can you see the difference?
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
10:29 am
td
“I guess you never listened to any of Obama’s stump speeches so you are lost and I will not do the research for you. If you are going to be on a political blog then it helps if you actually understand politics.”
I have listened to his speeches and do not recall him saying what you allege.
It’s as Jay said in the lead – time to put up.
But I’m betting you won’t.
td
January 23rd, 2013
10:29 am
Regnad Kcin
January 23rd, 2013
10:25 am
“Because Obama kept eluding to the fact in the campaign that Osama is dead so we do not have to worry about terrorist any longer.”
td – I think you’re lying. Prove it with a linkee, or own the lie.
I do not care what you think. It would not matter if I showed you pictures of Obama molesting young children you would still ignore it and kiss his feet if he stood next to you.
Class of '98
January 23rd, 2013
10:30 am
Party affiliations aside, if Ms. Clinton has been unable to testify about Benghazi for over a month due to “health reasons”, is she fit to be Secretary of State?
And party affiliations aside, am I the only person terrified by the fact that Smilin’ Joe Biden is one heartbeat away from being POTUS?
I’m no big fan of Hussein, but I still hope he stays alive and healthy for the next four years.
Erwin's cat
January 23rd, 2013
10:30 am
guy @10:19 – Like I said yesterday, none of us will ever really know the truth.
I’d have to say that I am in this camp…at least as far as the private sector is concerned