‘President Rand Paul’ would have fired Hillary post-Benghazi

In his discussion with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton this morning, U.S. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky imagined himself as president of the United States. Had he been in that lofty position, he told Clinton, he would have removed her from office:

“I’m glad that you’re accepting responsibility. I think that ultimately, with you leaving, that you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11. And I really mean that. Had I been president at the time and I had found that you had not read the cables from Benghazi, you had not read the cables from Ambassador Stevens, I would have relieved you of your post. I think it’s inexcusable….”

“I think it’s inexcusable that you did not know about this, and that you did not read these cables. I would think by anybody’s estimation Libya has to have been one of the hottest of hot spots around the world. Not to know of the requests for security really, I think, really, cost these people their lives. Their lives could have been saved had someone been more available, had someone been aware of these things, more on top of their jobs.”

Rant concluded, Paul then posed a question (2:21 in the video above):

“Is the US involved with any procuring of weapons, transfer of weapons, buying, selling, anyhow transferring weapons to Turkey, out of Libya?

“To Turkey?” Clinton responded, her body language suggesting that she found the question bizarre. “I will have to take that question for the record. That’s … Nobody has ever raised that with me.”

“It’s been in news reports that ships have been leaving from Libya, and that they may have weapons,” Paul responded. “And what I would like to know Is the annex that was close by, were they involved with procuring, buying, selling, obtaining weapons and were any of these weapons being transferred to other countries, Turkey included.”

“You’ll have to direct that question to the agency that ran the annex,” Clinton said pointedly.

The agency that ran the annex is the CIA.

The “news reports” that Rand referred to are anonymously sourced stories on Fox News and on right-wing websites alleging that the CIA was buying up weapons in Libya and shipping them to Turkey and then on to Syrian rebels, including to known jihadist groups. Glenn Beck has been pushing the conspiracy theory as well.

It is not inconceivable that the U.S. has assisted the flow of arms out of Libya and into Syria, although given how spectacularly wrong Fox has been proved to be on other anonymously sourced reports involving Benghazi, I wouldn’t give its reports a lot of credence. Given national security implications, I’m also not sure that Paul acted responsibly by raising the issue in a public hearing.

If he was actually seeking information, rather than playing to the conspiracy crowd, he has more private means of getting answers as a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He runs the risk of endangering U.S. lives by doing it in public, without apparently knowing the possible ramifications.

I wonder what President Rand Paul would say about somebody who did that?

– Jay Bookman

389 comments Add your comment

getalife

January 23rd, 2013
12:53 pm

I wrote on the last thread:

rand thinks the SoS job is to sit at the computer reading cables all day.

rand is ignorant of government but he is a rookie so there is a learning curve.

Hopefully, he took this lesson Hillary owned him on and will learn from it but doubt he will.

The folks that failed on security at State were held accountable.

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2013
12:55 pm

I have to remind myself that the senate is not quite as effed-up as it was when Preston Brooks basically started the Civil War when he bludgeoned another senator nearly to death.

But sometimes I think it ain’t far off.

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2013
12:56 pm

on cue, when I go to news.google.com, there’s a fox story headlined:

10 new questions Congress needs to ask Clinton about Middle East policy

getalife

January 23rd, 2013
1:00 pm

Speaking of the CIA, we had 7 American deaths in Africa so far without warning.

Did any pol call for a classified hearing on missing these attacks ?

If not, these pols failed on doing their job on oversight.

Granny Godzilla

January 23rd, 2013
1:01 pm

Rand Paul…..

He simply had to be dropped on his head – repeatedly.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 23rd, 2013
1:01 pm

IMO, Rand Paul is living, breathing evidence that *any* American kid can grow up and become someone important.

No matter how much of a sniveling little weasel he or she might actually happen to be.

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2013
1:01 pm

President Rand Paul?

Get in on the ground floor of this outstanding investment opportunity.

http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=769732

saywhat?

January 23rd, 2013
1:01 pm

“If Rand Paul were President……..”

and if frogs had wings they wouldn’t bump their azzes when they hopped.

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2013
1:02 pm

He simply had to be dropped on his head – repeatedly.

and if he wasn’t, I’d be happy to do it now.

Simple Truths

January 23rd, 2013
1:02 pm

Gotta love the “questions” posed by politicians. At some point, I would be tempted to say, “Hey! Is there a who, what, when, where, or why coming also here?”

Two posts on Benghazi today. Easier to focus on work.

saywhat?

January 23rd, 2013
1:04 pm

Jay-”I wonder what President Rand Paul would say about somebody who did that?”
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Ummmm, “Heckuva job Brownie!”

Matti

January 23rd, 2013
1:04 pm

He would have his supporters grab her on the sidewalk, rip the sign from her hand, push her face down on the ground and stand on her head. And one of them would be wearing a “Don’t Tread On Me” button while they did this. Because that’s how they roll.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 23rd, 2013
1:04 pm

Well, I’m just sorry this Rand Paul come off looking like the south end of a horse going north. If the guy thinks the SOS sets around reading cables all day, he don’t know nothing about what the people in charge do. All I know is, if I was in charge of about 150 bunches of people, I wouldn’t be locked up in my cubby hole reading cables.

I sure am glad he’s not the President. We’d never get anything done.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

Michael

January 23rd, 2013
1:09 pm

I saw where Rand was critical of Gov. Christie last week after Christie called the NRA’s ad about guns and the Obama kids despicable. Voice of insanity remains the norm for the Repulicans.

Redcoat

January 23rd, 2013
1:14 pm

Paul Rand….How dare he!…now trash him even harder!

Big Al

January 23rd, 2013
1:14 pm

Hopefully the Benghazi fiasco along with her poor health will help ensure they Hillary Clinton never, ever becomes POTUS.

Regnad Kcin

January 23rd, 2013
1:15 pm

Anonymously -sourced Glenn Beck theories…

This ^^^ is the future of the republican party, until the Christie wing finally throttles the t-party wing.

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2013
1:15 pm

my bad–Preston Brook wasn’t a Senator, himself, but a Congrefsman. Who bludgeoned Sen. Sumner nearly to death with a club by approaching him from behind, and continuing to beat him while his buddy fended off people coming to Sumner’s aid by brandishing a pistol.

Because, you know, we’re all safer when people are armed.

St Simons - aboriginal Bootakook 2014

January 23rd, 2013
1:15 pm

president Rand Paul – hot dam now, that’s some

Dennis Miller quality comedy right there

Granny Godzilla

January 23rd, 2013
1:15 pm

From David Kurtz:

Paul went as far as saying that had he been president he would have fired Clinton, while rattling off a few examples of State Department expenditures that he considers wasteful and frivolous.

It needs to be said that Paul doesn’t have much use for the State Department.

In his own budget proposal for 2011, which called for a half a trillion dollars in across the board spending cuts, Paul proposed a $20 billion cut to the State Department. By way of comparison, the State Department’s core budget for the 2013 fiscal year is $43.4 billion. You can see that provision of his budget at the bottom of the page here.

The U.S. security failures in Benghazi were serious. They shouldn’t be downplayed or dismissed. But you don’t have to pretend there wasn’t a State Department failure, in order to conclude that it takes a lot of nerve to sit there and rip a secretary over the decisions made about how and where to deploy security resources when not only is the department chronically underfunded and having to make do, but while you yourself have called for slashing the departments budget by nearly half. That’s not serious. And neither is Paul.

Tealiban Party

January 23rd, 2013
1:17 pm

Rand Paul thinks Benghazi is the worst tragedy since 9/11… Where has he been the last 12 years? Dare I say his head has obviouslyl been up the posteriors of a few Fox executives….

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2013
1:17 pm

Please, go nuclear, Senator Reid. These “men” deserve nothing less.

Dtruth

January 23rd, 2013
1:18 pm

When are you cons going to take a long look in the mirror and realize Benghazi was all George Bush’s fault.

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2013
1:19 pm

The Fox “News” homepage, of course, is at Tardcon 5 over this. worth a peek if you don’t mind giving Rupert your click-thrus.

ken

January 23rd, 2013
1:20 pm

Watergate would have been a yawn by standards the news media has today.

what a country

January 23rd, 2013
1:22 pm

she is incompetent and then has to cry for effect god what a bunch of liberal dribble

Look before I leap...

January 23rd, 2013
1:22 pm

I was just thinking that the GOP and Fox News could have their own theme area in Disneyland.

But then I remembered, they already do, it’s called Fantasyland.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 23rd, 2013
1:22 pm

Rand Paul is a buffoon, probably why so many Libertarians and GOPpers follow him.

Oscar

January 23rd, 2013
1:23 pm

sounds like the only safe thing to do is to get our people out of north africa. more attacks are loomimg in the future. don’t have the money -resoures to protect everybody.

#1 Foxy Lady

January 23rd, 2013
1:25 pm

Well, Mr. Paulie, you ain’t the President cause you are a LOSER. So, SUCK IT,you sexiest.

Oscar

January 23rd, 2013
1:25 pm

also, btw, get out people out of afghanstan. can’t protect them there either. and no point in ever being there at all.

Redcoat

January 23rd, 2013
1:25 pm

decibels……those questions do they need to be asked? What’s your opinion? What are you insinuating? I went to the Fox News site and had to look a little to find what you were commenting about, I was expecting it to be big and bold, but started with Opinion about middle ways, three small lines down from the large headline under a large picture.

ATL Tiger

January 23rd, 2013
1:27 pm

Rand Paul just exposed another incompetent member of the ‘amateur hour’ administration

Real Scootter

January 23rd, 2013
1:27 pm

Tardcon 5

LOL,good one DB!

smooveb

January 23rd, 2013
1:28 pm

I read these blog posts to practice my ability to spot logical fallacies. The big one in this blog post is the “appeal to emotion” fallacy. This is manipulating an emotional response in place of a valid or compelling argument. Appeals to emotion include appeals to fear, envy, hatred, pity, guilt, and more. Though a valid and reasoned argument may sometimes have an emotional aspect, one must be careful that emotion doesn’t obscure or replace reason. Reading the comments validates my observation. I will leave it to the reader to find the “ad hominem” and “loaded question” fallacy.

Redcoat

January 23rd, 2013
1:28 pm

Democrats and Liberals…..you are disobeying President Obama…….stop the name calling!

Oscar

January 23rd, 2013
1:29 pm

change the rules on filiuster. it was meant only to delay a vote, not to prevnt a vote. majority of 51 shoulf be able to vote and pass a bill after reasonable debate.

Oscar

January 23rd, 2013
1:30 pm

atl – yes, he xposed himself as incompetent.

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2013
1:30 pm

Real @ 1.27, I’m pretty sure I swiped that one from Rude Pundit… por ejemplo–

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2011/04/democrats-in-congress-on-paul-ryan.html

Oscar

January 23rd, 2013
1:32 pm

hillary clinton just vasty raised her approval rating. as for the approval rating of congress – do they have negative numbers in the ratings.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 23rd, 2013
1:32 pm

Scootter — Tardcon 5 “LOL,good one DB!”

The audible alarm for Tardcon 5 is the well-known whoop whoop whoop made by Curly of Three Stooges fame.

Towncrier

January 23rd, 2013
1:33 pm

“It is not inconceivable that the U.S. has assisted the flow of arms out of Libya and into Syria, although given how spectacularly wrong Fox has been proved to be on other anonymously sourced reports involving Benghazi, I wouldn’t give its reports a lot of credence.”

Thanks for at least admitting the U.S. is capable of malfeasance and corrupt behavior (when a Democrat is in the oval office).

“Given national security implications, I’m also not sure that Paul acted responsibly by raising the issue in a public hearing. If he was actually seeking information, rather than playing to the conspiracy crowd, he has more private means of getting answers as a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He runs the risk of endangering U.S. lives by doing it in public, without apparently knowing the possible ramifications. I wonder what President Rand Paul would say about somebody who did that?”

Are you sure or aren’t you? The way you end your column you seem positively sure that Rand is running the “risk of endangering U.S. lives”. Do you mind showing how he is doing that? If, as you say, he is repeating what has already been published by various sites, what is he doing differently? And, if Clinton knew something that was a security concern, could she have not have asked to take that up in a non-public hearing?

But in any case, a fine way to deflect from Rand’s point that maybe she should have been fired for not being on top of things. 4 people are dead, after all.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 23rd, 2013
1:34 pm

Oscar — “as for the approval rating of congress – do they have negative numbers in the ratings.:

No, but I imagine that they will soon plunge below President Bush and Vice-President Cheney levels of unpopularity.

Redcoat

January 23rd, 2013
1:34 pm

Just suppose if it was a republican administration and SoS………..

USC

January 23rd, 2013
1:35 pm

I guess when Rand Paul was getting his hair curled, they fried his brain. What an embarrassment. Who elected this person to high office?

Joe Hussein Mama

January 23rd, 2013
1:37 pm

Redcoat — “Just suppose if it was a republican administration and SoS………..”

You mean like Iran-Contra?

Scooter

January 23rd, 2013
1:37 pm

If any “media” outlet basis a story on unnamed sources it should be discounted out of hand.

Granny Godzilla

January 23rd, 2013
1:39 pm

Redcoat

January 23rd, 2013
1:34 pm

Just suppose if it was a republican administration and SoS………..
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Ok….

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Rand Paul would still be a goof.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

January 23rd, 2013
1:39 pm

Did you notice what Rand Paul had in common with Mitt Romney and Donald Trump? They all love to fire people… Yuk, Yuk…

getalife

January 23rd, 2013
1:40 pm

I had no doubt that Hillary would crush the gop.

The only Senator that could compete with her in debate on foreign policy is our President.

Recon 0311 2533

January 23rd, 2013
1:41 pm

spectacularly wrong Fox has been proved to be on other anonymously sourced reports involving Benghazi, I wouldn’t give its reports a lot of credence.

Jay’s quite wrong on that statement. Fox News Catherine Herridge Bureau Chief Intelligence broke the story right after the Benghazi attack that it was a well planned and coordinated attack by Islamic terrorists and not a spontaneous action born out of a demonstration. Her reporting proved to be accurate and the administrations version proved to be false as did Jay’s at the time proved false. Of course Jay bought into the party line and no surprise there.

Adam

January 23rd, 2013
1:42 pm

Rand Paul is an idiot. But then, so is any Objectivist.

ATL Tiger

January 23rd, 2013
1:42 pm

“I had no doubt that Hillary would crush the gop.

The only Senator that could compete with her in debate on foreign policy is our President.”

Bahahaha! Yeah and hear them argue whose was truly at fault for the terrorist attacks on Benghazi. I would pay to see that!

getalife

January 23rd, 2013
1:43 pm

House approved three month debt limit extension.

Redcoat

January 23rd, 2013
1:44 pm

Government has just approved more future spending of somebody else money that if they refuse to pay will face imprisonment …..again…..

Jefferson

January 23rd, 2013
1:44 pm

Dopes, those jr senators they are.

getalife

January 23rd, 2013
1:44 pm

“Yeah and hear them argue whose was truly at fault for the terrorist attacks on Benghazi.”

The ones they are hunting down con.

bookman parrot

January 23rd, 2013
1:45 pm

president jay bookman would take everything from the producers and give all of it to the takers.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 23rd, 2013
1:46 pm

Not to go OT, but did anyone else see this on the front page of the electronic AJC?

Stem cell foe named chair of science panel

By Aaron Gould Sheinin

The new head of the state House Committee on Science and Technology is a social conservative who has used a moral compass to question scientific research, but who says he knows the importance biotechnology has on the state’s economy.

Rep. Ed Setzler, R-Acworth, has previously led efforts to ban research on embryonic stem cells and sponsored a bill making it illegal to implant people with microchips against their will.

Setzler, beginning his fifth term in the House, is also a frequent sponsor of bills to restrict abortions. The 42-year-old is an engineer and retired Army Ranger.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/lawmaker-who-opposed-embryonic-research-named-chai/nT4wq/

Uh, the *microchip guy* is chairing the State House committee on science and tech? Sorry, but that makes as much sense as making atheist me the official House chaplain.

Real Scootter

January 23rd, 2013
1:46 pm

The audible alarm for Tardcon 5 is the well-known whoop whoop whoop made by Curly of Three Stooges fame.

Thanks alot JHM.Now that alarm is going to be stuck in my head the rest of day! :smile:

ATL Tiger

January 23rd, 2013
1:47 pm

“The ones they are hunting down con.”

‘Hunting down’ like a youtube video? hahaha

Adam

January 23rd, 2013
1:47 pm

House CAVED on the debt ceiling. THAT is what happened.

Regnad Kcin

January 23rd, 2013
1:48 pm

“Government has just approved more future spending of somebody else ”

Nope – they will spend the government’s money. And they should – after all, they already bought the stuff.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 23rd, 2013
1:49 pm

Scootter — “Thanks alot JHM.Now that alarm is going to be stuck in my head the rest of day!”

Nyuck nyuck nyuck. :D

Towncrier

January 23rd, 2013
1:49 pm

“IMO, Rand Paul is living, breathing evidence that *any* American kid can grow up and become someone important.”

Hmm. I expect a lot of people might say Kim Kardashian. ;-)

I am not going to defend Paul (or hardly any politician), but your opinion strikes me as less judicious than emotional. Let’s consider some of those who have assumed political office in various capacities: Jesse Ventura, Al Franken (an SNL commedian? Really???), Marion Berry, David Duke, George Wallace, our very own Cynthia McKinney and so on. American politics, it might be argued, is a comedy of errors. ;-)

getalife

January 23rd, 2013
1:49 pm

Yes, hunting down like obl.

The fight has moved to Africa.

Try to keep up con.

Recon 0311 2533

January 23rd, 2013
1:50 pm

Rand Paul was spot on. Clinton should have been removed from office for either dereliction of duty contributing to the deaths of four Americans or evading truthful revelation of facts.

td

January 23rd, 2013
1:51 pm

Wow, you progressives are bashing Rand Paul for stating that he would hold people accountable for their actions. Have we as a nation fell so much that our leaders should not be held accountable? It appears that you progressives do not like accountability.

getalife

January 23rd, 2013
1:51 pm

There will never be a President Paul but he made a fool of himself like the rest of the cons.

What good are they?

Regnad Kcin

January 23rd, 2013
1:52 pm

“Jesse Ventura, Al Franken (an SNL commedian? Really???), Marion Berry, David Duke, George Wallace, our very own Cynthia McKinney and so on”

How could you forget Ronald Reagan!

kayaker 71

January 23rd, 2013
1:53 pm

The one big difference between the coverup in Bengazi and Fast and Furious is that Bozo can’t hide the Libya facts with an executive order. Hell, the Little Rascals could have handled both of these incidents with more decorum than Hillary or Bozo ever did. All they would have had to do was to send in that black eyed dog….. he and Buckwheat would have been quite a team. And Bozo wants Holder to determine who should have a gun in this country. If that thought were not so pathetic, it would be funny.

Towncrier

January 23rd, 2013
1:53 pm

“Uh, the *microchip guy* is chairing the State House committee on science and tech? Sorry, but that makes as much sense as making atheist me the official House chaplain.”

And Harry Reid as the Senate majority leader does make sense? American politics, it might be argued, is a comedy of errors. ;-)

getalife

January 23rd, 2013
1:53 pm

del,

So w should have been removed from office after 9/11?

ATL Tiger

January 23rd, 2013
1:54 pm

Looks like Hillary got some coaching before her ‘emotional’ hearing today, probably from the same team that helped Bubba with Monicagate.

Redcoat

January 23rd, 2013
1:54 pm

Granny you are directly disobeying President Obama…..stop the name calling he said!

Robert

January 23rd, 2013
1:54 pm

Who the heck is Rand Paul? What branch of the homegrown terrorist group(s) known as the “tea party’ (klansmen, skinheads, militia’s, birther’s, etc.,) is he affiliated with? Who elected this clown to Congress? What planet is he from to think someone will vote for him for President? Is he a GOP candidate for President in 2016?

The GOP still has not learned their lessons.

The American People…

Redcoat

January 23rd, 2013
1:56 pm

getalife……more dead Americans…..now who is keeping up?

Stevie Ray

January 23rd, 2013
1:56 pm

JAY

So your heroine is getting a bit roughed up under a cross examination? Sorry that gets your goat.

Seems if she didn’t read and take seriously messages regarding security concerns, her appointment should be scrutinized. Is there any dispute that she didn’t?

It is not inconceivable that the U.S. has assisted the flow of arms …

So even if it’s not inconcievable, based on track record, anything the other media wing suggests is not credible?

getalife

January 23rd, 2013
1:56 pm

kay,

Your blind partisan bs with the other cons is funny.

Stay the course cons.

Our President needs the house.

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2013
1:56 pm

Al Franken (an SNL commedian? Really?

Also the author of several bestselling (albeit humorous) political essay collections, and a radio show host for several years. If you’d ever actually listened to any of his radio shows, you’d know that he was not some political lightweight, but a guy who did his homework and asked pointed questions of his subjects.

Maybe that’s not much of a political resume, but it’s every bit as solid as any number of people you *didn’t* mention–and I daresay it’s as impressive as the pizza CEO that leapfrogged the Senate, and ran for President last year.

Granny Godzilla

January 23rd, 2013
1:57 pm

Redcoat

January 23rd, 2013
1:54 pm

Granny you are directly disobeying President Obama…..stop the name calling he said!
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Excrement Occurs RB.

I’ll take responsibility for my words and actions as always.

getalife

January 23rd, 2013
1:57 pm

red,

7 so far.

Why did the CIA miss it?

Towncrier

January 23rd, 2013
1:59 pm

“Wow, you progressives are bashing Rand Paul for stating that he would hold people accountable for their actions. Have we as a nation fell so much that our leaders should not be held accountable? It appears that you progressives do not like accountability.”

Progressives are actually keen on accountability just so long as it doesn’t implicate them (which, to be fair, may be said of a LOT of hypocritical conservative politicians).

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2013
1:59 pm

the same team that helped Bubba with Monicagate

I do wonder if the online conservatives will EVER purge their inner fourth-grader and manage to engage in one (1) conversation about a Clinton without going to *that* well.

Jeez.

Jay

January 23rd, 2013
2:01 pm

“Jay’s quite wrong on that statement.

No. I’m quite correct.

Fox reported, based on “sources,” that we had an AC-130 gunship ready to go to the aid of our Benghazi consulate, but the administration refused.

The closest gunship at the time was in Afghanistan.

Fox reported that CIA agents were told to “stand down” and not aid Stevens. The CIA has said point blank that is not true, and the independent investigatory board confirmed it was not true.

Fox claimed that we had special forces in Italy ready to be inserted while the attack was underway; those units did not reach Italy until the next day.

Fox reported that CIA personnel at the annex “painted” mortar positions with lasers but that administration officials refused to pull the trigger. Again, the board investigation flatly refuted that point, and no evidence has emerged to support it.

These and other false claims sent conservatives into a full-blown tizzy, as you’ll recall. Somehow, Recon seems to have wiped all that from his memory banks.

Real Scootter

January 23rd, 2013
2:02 pm

Recon 0311 2533

January 23rd, 2013
1:50 pm

You just had to make a deposit in the punch bowl didn’t ya. :lol:

kayaker 71

January 23rd, 2013
2:02 pm

Hillary fu*ked up. And she knows it. Everyone with half a brain knows it. The facts point out that she, and others on the State security team dropped the ball. Why demonize Rand Paul for wanting to know correct answers? It all fits the typical liberal pattern….. kill the messenger if what he says does not agree with you, then vilify him before the public and in the media. Same story…. different guy.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 23rd, 2013
2:03 pm

Towncrier — “I am not going to defend Paul (or hardly any politician), but your opinion strikes me as less judicious than emotional.”

You think? :D

“Let’s consider some of those who have assumed political office in various capacities: Jesse Ventura,”

I was on a consulting gig in Tampa when Ventura was elected; as luck would have it, one of my fellow consultants was a nice fellow from a Minneapolis suburb who went out of his way to track down an Election Day copy of the Minneapolis Star- Tribune. Our conversation on the topic went like this:

JHM: WTF?

MN Guy: I have no %&@*&$ idea.

“Al Franken (an SNL commedian? Really???)”

I’ll raise you Iowa’s Fred Grandy (”Gopher” on The Love Boat.) At least Franken is funny, whereas Grandy was just funny-lookin.’ :D

“Marion Berry, David Duke, George Wallace, our very own Cynthia McKinney and so on. American politics, it might be argued, is a comedy of errors.”

While consulting in the DC area about ten years ago, I suggested to my wife that I might attend a Mario Berry rally just for fun, carrying a “B!TCH SET ME UP” sign. She dissuaded me by asking if I had our State Farm agent’s phone number handy (I have a rather sizable life policy with them). :D

thuggishNews

January 23rd, 2013
2:03 pm

so who were the wankers who voted to cut embassy security funding, and why are they not facing questions?

Jm

January 23rd, 2013
2:03 pm

I would vote for Rand over Chris Christie any day

Regnad Kcin

January 23rd, 2013
2:04 pm

“Everyone with half a brain knows it.”

You said it, kayaker! ONLY those with “half a brain!”

:D

JohnnyReb

January 23rd, 2013
2:04 pm

Obama runs for reelection and declars Al Qaeda all but a memory.

Al Qaeda attacks in Benghazi killing the ambassador. Video shows they attacked with machine guns and rocket propelled grenades.

What will we do, what will do, asks someone in the Barry camp?

Some nerd comes up with blaming it on a crowd pissed about a video no one has heard about.

Obama and Hillary buy into the lie, they set about selling the lie to America and the world.

Rice goes on the Sunday talk shows spreading the lie.

Obama speaks at the UN telling the world attack caused by video.

Obama/Hillary spend money for radio spots in the Arab world condemning the video.

Moonbats eat it up. Conservatives say, wait a minute.

The truck comes out, but Obama and his ligacy media propagandists brush it off. Fox is belittled.

Obama wins relection.

Hillary bumps head which conveniently postpones her having to testify at Congressional hearings.

Hillary declares when asked about blaming the video lie, what difference does it make.

Hillary and Barry get away with it.

Sickening

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2013
2:04 pm

What are you insinuating?

I was insinuating that Fox News announced, essentially, that they intend to make a BFD about this for as long as they can milk it. that said…

I went to the Fox News site and had to look a little to find what you were commenting about, I was expecting it to be big and bold, but started with Opinion about middle ways, three small lines down from the large headline under a large picture.

Ok, looking at my posts I can see why you’d think I’d thought Foxnews.com was featuring this front and center, but actually, it was an item I saw in the news.google.com feed, directly under their top story about the testimony.

So it was front-and-center-ish on the google feed, but not at the fox site. Which to be fair, isn’t fox’s responsbility; Google features stuff based on web traffic, far as I know.

Granny Godzilla

January 23rd, 2013
2:04 pm

kayaker 71

Proceed

Bless your heart

Get Real

January 23rd, 2013
2:04 pm

looks like Jay has received his talking points from the White House and his sheeple flock are being herded right along….

Joe Hussein Mama

January 23rd, 2013
2:04 pm

td — “Wow, you progressives are bashing Rand Paul for stating that he would hold people accountable for their actions.”

No, I’m bashing him for being an arrogant pushy little dipspit.

Jm

January 23rd, 2013
2:05 pm

I heard Hillary’s responses to McCain

She was less than forthright, and frankly dodged the questions

Per the usual, nothing will be resolved from the opaque most transparent administration in history

getalife

January 23rd, 2013
2:05 pm

“HILLARY THROWS DOWN!
‘WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?’” HP

tapper on cnn finally asks about intel failure but the reason I voted for Hillary is she is a fighter that gives the gop hell.

DiverCity

January 23rd, 2013
2:05 pm

Exactly! How dare this so-called conservative question a member of the Clerisy/Cathedral!

weetamoe

January 23rd, 2013
2:06 pm

Mitt who was mocked was correct about Chrysler. He was called a liar by the real liars. Mitt who was mocked about Mali was correct. Events, news reports, and testimony vindicate him and the tragedy of dead Americans is further evidence (at this moment when Hilary squirms) of just how incompetent the Obama administration foreign policy is.
Rand Paul wasn’t *imagining.* Look up the meaning of subjunctive.