In Louisiana, Jindal slashes aid to the dying
UPDATE: This evening, the Jindal administration announced that it was suspending — through June 30 — its announced plan to cease funding of Medicaid hospice services. As the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports:
“…. on Wednesday, the administration reversed course. The program will be maintained for the rest of the state’s fiscal year, which ends June 30, with the use of “temporary bridge funding,” according to a news release from the Department of Health and Hospitals. The release referred to that money as grant funding but did not specify where it came from or how reallocating it to hospice care would affect other state programs.”
The longer-term fate of the Medicaid hospice program is uncertain.
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How do conservatives propose to cut Medicare and Medicaid spending?
Gov. Bobby Jindal, oft-mentioned as a 2016 presidential contender, is going about it in a number of ways, including an executive order that will end Medicaid coverage of hospice services as of February 1. Each year, some 1,700 less affluent residents of Louisiana have benefited from those services.
“In a strongly worded statement released on Thursday, the Louisiana-Mississippi Hospice and Palliative Care Organization’s (LMHPCO) Board of Directors stated that it was “shocked and saddened” by Gov. Jindal’s recent decision to eliminate the Medicaid hospice benefit, effective February 1, 2013.
“While the board strongly disagrees with this decision, the board is even more confused by the administration’s assertion that this action will save the state $10.6 million in FY 2014,” the board stated.
“For 10 years, the Medicaid Hospice Benefit has provided terminally ill patients and their families in Louisiana with the confidence they need to forgo expensive end-of-life hospital admissions. According to the administration, Louisiana Medicaid spent $11,430,414.14 on hospice services for some 5,189 recipients in 2012 — an average of $2,202.81 per patient.
With or without hospice, these terminally ill patients will die. The average length of stay for hospice patients in Louisiana is 72 days, with 50 percent of our patients dying within 26 days of enrollment. Without hospice, as these terminal patients decline, they will typically be transported to the nearest hospital emergency room by ambulance, and will subsequently be moved into the hospital’s intensive care units — costing the state’s Medicaid system at least four times the cost of hospice care.”
Hospice, almost by definition, is not a life-saving intervention. It is a death-management intervention. As the Louisiana hospice officials note, this alleged “savings” will almost certainly result in higher costs to taxpayers, as people who are denied professional hospice care seek medical assistance in more expensive ways.
But beyond that bottom-line analysis, there’s a question of morality and decency. Like millions of Americans, I have witnessed first-hand the value of hospice both for the terminally ill patient and for his or her loved ones. The fact that Jindal is enacting this reduction as a way to help finance the elimination of state corporate and income taxes only compounds the tragic nature of the misjudgment.
– Jay Bookman
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Old Goober
January 23rd, 2013
9:52 pm
I knew three people who died in hospices. Two of them were very young—in their 30s. Anyone who wants to consign such people to dying at home has no idea of the suffering their loved ones would endure during the dying process. God bless the people who work in hospices. They need to be very strong to provide care while watching life leave their patients. If helping to run such facilities isn’t a state function, then we surely live in a jungle where nature is red in tooth and claw.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:53 pm
“Call it a night.”
Why tell me that? It’s of no interest to me if you are here or not.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
9:54 pm
“Obama is a kenyan marxist
king obama is going to take your guns
Where’s his birth certificate?”
Mick,
Difference is did any of that hyperbole above result in costly new gubment programs that don’t work? Or costly new regulations or laws that don’t do a damn bit of good? Nope. That’s the difference- calling Obama a Kenyan Marxist, demanding his birth cert, and saying he’s going to take away our guns is just blather. But its blather that didn’t cost us anything.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:54 pm
“The only way you can justify a major tenant of the left in your heart when your head is saying you are wrong is to feel morally superior to the correct viewpoint”
Reads like projection at it’s finest to me.
Nothing to see here, keep moving...
January 23rd, 2013
10:00 pm
Before the sun set and candles could be lit, a vigil protesting state budget cuts to hospice care turned into a celebration Wednesday night.
State Sen. Fred Mills Jr., R-St. Martinville, delivered the news that the cuts will be averted, allowing Medicaid patients to receive end-of-life care.
http://theadvocate.com/home/4993753-125/jindal-backs-off-hospice-cuts
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
10:01 pm
I believe russia withdrew its people because they know the government they support is going to fall. they don’t want their people their when that happens. Don’t see any big war coming. Other than the civil war.
Mick
January 23rd, 2013
10:01 pm
doom
To you it might be blather, but to millions of minions its the truth! Doesn’t do much for credibility when you need it. Besides why the linkage to money and cost? Well, yes the cost to your party is ignorance, why tolerate the blather???
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
10:02 pm
Getting late. Night all
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
10:03 pm
Allthis argument about left and right is interesting. But where the facts hit the road is when it comes to setting the numbers in the budget and making the cuts and the tax increases. That’s the real world. What we can afford.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
10:05 pm
“As the Louisiana hospice officials note, this alleged “savings” will almost certainly result in higher costs to taxpayers, as people who are denied professional hospice care seek medical assistance in more expensive ways.”
Jay,
Can you or they provide some empirical evidence to prove this? I don’t see any proof of this assertion in the form of a link. As most of us know hospice is typically end of life comforting for those terminally ill. So if there is nothing that can be done for a patient dying of terminal cancer than how is it that they will be granted these new, more expensive treatments? That doesn’t make any sense. Not being snarky but please explain if you’re still on.
One other thing. There’s a good number of terminally cancer patients that can be in hospice but choose to go home to die. My gf’s dad died that way and I have a few customers at this very moment that could be in hospice but are instead spending the remainder of their days in their home. Its not unusual to want to die in the comfort of your own home.
And besides didn’t you write a column last year on the fact that in regards to end of life decisions that we are going to have to make hard decisions on the cost of treating patients for end of life care? Maybe others on here forgot about that column. Doomy didn’t. Which tells me that you are treating this case of cutting costs in end of life care in a purely political and partisan fashion.
?
January 23rd, 2013
10:09 pm
Jindal reversed his death panel plan..
Alex
January 23rd, 2013
10:12 pm
I currently am very involved with Hospice care and am amply aware of their benefit, but if the Louisiana system is ANYTHING like the Ga. system , then there is much more to the story than meets the eye. For 1 the pt. ill not move to an ICU, that is a lot of rubbish. The hospice trade group represents, I suspect for profit centers and are thus protecting their clients–what do you expect them to say, Jay… Same old one died , superficial, partisan yellow journalism . If you think that this is all about financing the elimination of state corporate tax your either willfully ignorant or just lazy…Any idea of what medicaid pays for the daily rate of a hospice pt, in Louisiana, neither do I , but I would be willing to predict the possibility that it covers very little, how does that effect the equation. I surely don’t know much of the Louisiana finances, but this article doesn’t help to understand it either. Poor “journalism..Jay you’re either getting bored or lazy, I am willing to predict your ready to move on, your last few opinion pieces have little information and less integrity, just pablum for your syncophanys.. Awful stuff really, no help to understand a very complex issue….f
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
10:16 pm
“To you it might be blather, but to millions of minions its the truth!”
Again. So what? It doesn’t cost Joe taxpayer any money to believe any of that nonsense.
“Besides why the linkage to money and cost? Well, yes the cost to your party is ignorance, why tolerate the blather???”
Again. Ignorant or dumbarse belief doesn’t cost joe taxpayer anything. And we could make just as many ridiculous comparisons of the left such as Obama himself saying that Republicans want dirty air and water- a statement that is beyond stupid and especially so for a president to scream such blather. Or Alan Grayson stating on the floor that Republicans plan for health care is for seniors to die, die, die. What kind of idiots on the left actually believe crap like that? But enough of that.
“Decisions made based on run away emotions do.”
Good example. A good number of economists proposed that the best way to handle the 07 recession was to do nothing. Why? Because the recession would have been deeper but it also would have ended more quickly and the recovery much more steeply. Instead people hollered that we needed to do something. That something has got to be done. The only thing we have to show for that is trillions more in debt and a sluggish economy.
Need another example? Take the Newtown massacre. We can spend inordinate amounts of money and time trying to do all sorts of things to ensure this doesn’t happen again. And the reality is that no matter how much we spend there really isn’t much you can do about a madman killing the legal and lawful owner of some guns and taking her guns on a rampage. But because its an emotionally charged issue people let their emotions get in the way and scream “Somethings got to be done. Somethings just got to be done”. They’re thinking with their emotions and are not thinking logically or rationally in regards to the sheer cost of doing something which ultimately probably wouldn’t make us any safer or which would make us only marginally safer. Now do you see what I’m saying?
Alex
January 23rd, 2013
10:18 pm
@Old Goober, I’ve seen hundreds die at home with hospice care, your experience while touching and sad does not reflect a large majority,hospice goes to peoples homes..best of luck to us all. I’d rather die at home!
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2013
10:18 pm
I’m going to have to leave now. But I wanted to leave you all with this wonderful chart. I think it’s self-explanatory.
Good night, all.
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
10:19 pm
alex,
Where do you work or are you lying like cons normally do?
Anyhoo, I hope the speaker is right and our President wants to annihilate the gop for 14 to end that worthless party.
Women are now doing the job scout and del failed to do.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
10:21 pm
“The hospice trade group represents, I suspect for profit centers and are thus protecting their clients–what do you expect them to say, Jay…”
That’s a good point and one I was kind of wondering about myself. Matter of fact my gf is a patient care tech who wanted to go to work in hospice. Why? Because it pays a lot more money. So yeah. There is some money being made in hospice care I suspect.
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
10:29 pm
It is about poor people not slobbering over the hospice industry.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
10:35 pm
“I’ve seen hundreds die at home with hospice care, your experience while touching and sad does not reflect a large majority,hospice goes to peoples homes..best of luck to us all. I’d rather die at home!”
Thanks for the info Alex. You’ve pretty much confirmed what I thought was the case with hospice. And as I said most of my people I have prefer to die at home. I’ve got 6-7 people in this situation right now and all are at home.
Mick
January 23rd, 2013
10:37 pm
doom @ 10:16
I think your getting your blather cross polinated, it is a nice treatice to display your willing suspension of disbelief, a real humdinger but I digress-
Hospice cost versus a stay in the hospital? You’ve got to be kidding me, $300 aspirin for starters….hospice is a humane way to pass on with some dignity and not run up a tab of possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Now who pays that cost for that end???
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
10:40 pm
Yes, hospice at home is cheaper for the State.
With the gop fighting against ObamaCare to make it fail, there is only one option left.
doomy out of a job.
Self defeatism because he chose to slobber on the wealthy few.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
10:44 pm
sooth – thanks for the chart. not hard to tll where we have to go from here. cut spending. raise taxes.
USC
January 23rd, 2013
10:47 pm
This will also come soon to Georgia as the Republicans attack the very weakest of the weak. In an attempt to sabotage the Affordable Care Act they are refusing to accept the Medicaid Expansion which is paid 90-100 percent by the Federal Government. Those states that expand (California, Arizona, New York, etc.) will divide the taxes collected in all 50 states by the federal government and be able to increase reimbursements to physicians and cover the large number of children who are currently uninsured. In an attempt to cover the minimum, Deal has proposed taxing the sick that are insured and hospitalized (Bed Tax). Georgians get to pay twice for an inferior product. Are we smart or what? Attack the weak – survival of the fittest.
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
10:51 pm
The majority know the gop are a dying breed.
Literally.
td
January 23rd, 2013
10:54 pm
USC
January 23rd, 2013
10:47 pm
And I am assuming you have evidence to back up that bold claim?
td
January 23rd, 2013
10:57 pm
etalife
January 23rd, 2013
10:51 pm
The majority know the gop are a dying breed.
Literally.
Where in the h3ll are you getting such a stupid idea from?
Obama's 47% and growing
January 23rd, 2013
10:58 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bavou_SEj1E
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
10:58 pm
If the expansion would have been paid for 90 to 100 per cent by the feds. it would not have been held unconstitutional to force the states to take it, read Robert’s opinion. Congress can’t vote to force states to spend their money.
watch
January 23rd, 2013
11:01 pm
td… do you think for minute they wouldn’t?
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
11:03 pm
td,
Old fat lazy cons are dying and the younger generation hate the gop.
td
January 23rd, 2013
11:08 pm
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
11:03 pm
td,
Old fat lazy cons are dying and the younger generation hate the gop.
And you really think this younger generation will remain so progressive as they marry, have children and make more money? I would be really surprised if this young generation does not turn out the be just like the past 15 generations. The ones that get married, have children and have a family income of over $50,000 per year will turn mostly conservative and the ones that get divorced or never married and make less then $50,000 per year will remain progressive.
Truer words...
January 23rd, 2013
11:10 pm
I’ve noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born.
– Quote by Ronald Reagan during the Anderson-Reagan Presidential Debate in Baltimore (September 21, 1980)
Peter
January 23rd, 2013
11:14 pm
Just take them out back and shoot them in the head…… heck have a family member or a NRA member do it…….. seems the Republican way.
Gee wasn’t this one of the items the Repub’s cried about with Obama care ?
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
11:14 pm
td,
The majority will grow.
Your party will disband after the next defeat.
Peter
January 23rd, 2013
11:15 pm
Well what would the Republican’s think if these folks wanted to end life civilized in a Kevorkian way ?
Mama Says
January 23rd, 2013
11:43 pm
Jezz,
It never stops. Jay instead of being bound and determined to slam any cost cutting republicans do why don’t you get the budget, go over it, find wasted spending, support cutting that and then showing the governor that you saved the money another way ?
It would be tremendously helpful if democrats would stop insisting that billions and billions of more dollars are in the taxpayers hands just waiting to be taken and admit that every entity, business and person has to live within a budget. Democrats in government are the only people in the world that think its ok to spend more than you have. Simply increasing the spending does not work and at some point you have to stop taking more money from us.
By the way the stupid comment by Keep Up the Good Fight early in the postings, about Deal funding a TV program so he could pay his buddy is just that, stupid. It’s the democrats that insist GPB get any taxpayer money. If you have a problem with the job that Rogers took eliminate all taxpayer funding to the network !
Fred ™
January 24th, 2013
5:52 am
Once again the morning haters seem to be sleeping in. It’s so peaceful here right now. No tired talk radio/FOXBOT hate filled lies posted by impotent angry little men. Just the sound of the wind rustling through the cyber space………
Redcoat
January 24th, 2013
5:53 am
Why don’t Jay and friends form a hospice company and provide their services and money? A great low cost service, at no profit, to those in need……..what’s stopping you? You could target rich liberals with billions to fund it and ………..never mind, what was I thinking?
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 24th, 2013
6:07 am
yep. nothing says “culture of life” quite like death without dignity.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 24th, 2013
6:09 am
Good morning to all y’all!
Boehner says the White House wants to annihilate the GOP…
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/23/16665481-boehner-obama-administration-wants-to-annihilate-gop?lite
But from what I’m reading above, any annihilation going on would seem to be self inflicted…
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 24th, 2013
6:20 am
Corbin – 6:09 – exactly – the best political advise around is “when your opponent is shooting himself in the foot, just stay out of the way and let him”
JamVet
January 24th, 2013
6:21 am
I guess the only silver lining to this insane new cadre of gubment/America haters and ingrates in the imploding Republican Party, is that they are going to be miserable for the rest of their days living in this county.
Enjoy your misery, cons.
And better luck in 2024…
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 24th, 2013
6:26 am
Corbin – a little cuteness to start your day
http://www.wimp.com/puppiessleep/
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 24th, 2013
6:36 am
We had hospice care for my mom in her last couple of weeks – amazing people who not only helped mom, but they also helped us to prepare for what was coming up. They really are amazing people and it’s a tremendous service.
so, yeah. only the rich should be able to afford it.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 24th, 2013
6:37 am
Have y’all seen this?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show#50568909
It shows reality versus Fox News if nothing else. I know the Conservatives here won’t take a look because they really don’t want to know, but it is eye opening.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 24th, 2013
6:39 am
USinUK,
That WAS cute!
Joe Hussein Mom
January 24th, 2013
6:40 am
I too fellow comrades believe in the all knowing knowledge of our beloved sumpreme leader President Obama! May Egypt use our gifts wisely.
guy
January 24th, 2013
6:43 am
Yes, and in D.C. obama will soon unleash his healthcare plan which will be a tax hike like never before. Wait until it’s all exposed! You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HadIt
January 24th, 2013
6:45 am
To Liberal Pariah
Hop on your 6000 year old creationist dinosaur and ride it into political and religious oblivion. And shove your bible up your ass
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 24th, 2013
6:45 am
guy
January 24th, 2013
6:43 am
Where do you keep your “Mystic Seer” shop?
guy
January 24th, 2013
6:46 am
Joe Hussein Mom, You are so right. How stupid can people be to not see what is going to happen?
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 24th, 2013
6:46 am
“Where do you keep your “Mystic Seer” shop?”
his crystal ball also doubles as a snow globe
guy
January 24th, 2013
6:49 am
Corbin Sharpe. Just wait and see. Be patient and don’t get your pee hot. It will be here before you know it. Your man will come through.
guy
January 24th, 2013
6:51 am
USinUK Same to you and yours!
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 24th, 2013
6:56 am
guy –
decaf.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 24th, 2013
6:57 am
GUY,
You know, maybe the difference between us is I don’t care if I have to pay more if it helps people who otherwise can’t afford it, get health care. We are all supposed to take care of each other.
Wilbur
January 24th, 2013
6:58 am
Jay, Maybe you could headline your next article, Democrat Council degrades women by forcing them to sleep on the floor.
It will never happen. For one thing, it was in Atlanta.
But the real reason is that it’s a democrat.
You are too busy selling a characature.
Granny Godlesszilla
January 24th, 2013
6:59 am
Thank you Jay for your character assassinations and demonizing our political opponents to help cover our declining American way of life the last four years. I too believe in the greatness of our government over the individual! It’s only fair!
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 24th, 2013
7:01 am
Granny Godlesszilla
parade of the sock puppets this morning …
TaxPayer
January 24th, 2013
7:05 am
Awwwww. Look at the little Georgia boy. All dressed and ready for his schooling.
SouthernGent
January 24th, 2013
7:08 am
What hypocrisy Jay. Your liberal demorats created the death panels with Obummercare, denied it and then could not longer deny them. You liberal demorats have made drunken sailors look fiscally responsible, but when money runs out, you shout how unfair! The idiot gene is becoming far too in vogue in liberal America!
Jay
January 24th, 2013
7:12 am
There are not and never were “death panels,” Southern Gent.
And you, sir, are no gentleman, to be lying about such a thing.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 24th, 2013
7:15 am
SouthernGent
I see you didn’t look at my video at 0637, did you? Look and open your eyes.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 24th, 2013
7:16 am
“our liberal demorats created the death panels ”
aw, how sweet! the Sarah Palin fan club (population: 1) is here this morning!!!
TaxPayer
January 24th, 2013
7:20 am
Why do you caste Jindal in such a harsh light, Jay! Why!
Granny Godzilla
January 24th, 2013
7:22 am
Golly Gee…..The GOP is truly becoming the party of CAVEmen.
Nice.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 24th, 2013
7:22 am
“Why do you caste Jindal in such a harsh light, Jay! Why!”
Taxie,
Because it’s so damn easy…
Jefferson
January 24th, 2013
7:23 am
Nothing wrong with profit, but overcharging is the case. The administrators must think they are doctors with their inflated payday. This is why Americans are getting ripped off on their Medicare dollars THEY PAY IN. Greedy and wanna bees GOP just go along.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 24th, 2013
7:24 am
OK, all y’all, gotta do some work…deadline coming up and with the possible ice event looming… Work sure does cut into your blog time, doesn’t it?
Mick
January 24th, 2013
7:25 am
Death panels? You want to acknowledge death panels exist? Yes they do, and it happens every day with our vaunted corporate health care but, but…our beloved corporate health care providers would never deny certain types of care would they?
“Who’s being naive now kay?”
PlainTtruth
January 24th, 2013
7:26 am
How many homeless people could be feed and given shelter from the military gifts to Egypt? Those weapons will only be used on Israel! Shame on President Obama!
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 24th, 2013
7:26 am
“Nothing wrong with profit, but overcharging is the case.”
which is exactly what you get when you have healthcare for profit.
Granny Godzilla
January 24th, 2013
7:27 am
That’s the 1/2 a brain guy, I think.
I hurt his feelings.
Granny Godzilla
January 24th, 2013
7:28 am
Taxpayer…
You know they wear hats like that cause that’s the shape of their heads.
Very sad to see it on someone who is still supposed to be innocent.
Checking in after the dictator gets another 4 years
January 24th, 2013
7:28 am
I was so proud of Hillary yesterday for not blaming George Bush. She blamed everyone else for her mismanagement, but she gave George a pass. Glad to see the Dems ask her some tough questions. I know the families of the 4 dead Americans appreciated that………………Geez
Granny Godzilla
January 24th, 2013
7:29 am
“caste”
snicker
stands for decibels
January 24th, 2013
7:29 am
I think that name’s a typo–it’s supposed to be “Palin Truth.”
As in, her version of it.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 24th, 2013
7:30 am
Well, there sure is a whole bunch of haters out this morning, is all I got to say.
stands for decibels
January 24th, 2013
7:31 am
Jay, a proper registration sign-up to reduce sock-puppetry, AND a tested IQ minimum of, say, 70?
You think your IT guys could manage that?
Checking in after the dictator gets another 4 years
January 24th, 2013
7:32 am
Here’s the one answer we didn’t get yesterday. ” During the 7 hour ordeal, who gave the order for the Military to ” stand down”?
TaxPayer
January 24th, 2013
7:33 am
GrannyG,
Did you read the article about that photo on the AJC? I saw it this morning.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 24th, 2013
7:35 am
“She blamed everyone else”
so, when she said she took full responsibility, that was blaming everyone else???
oy to the vey. the stupid is strong with this one.
Granny Godzilla
January 24th, 2013
7:37 am
No….online or on paper?
stands for decibels
January 24th, 2013
7:38 am
Oh, and… “Checking in after the dictator gets another 4 years”–
What do you call it when your a political can’t manage an actual majority of votes and has to rig the electoral college for a chance at the Presidency?
I mean, if you were to see that sort of crap going on in some third-world craphole, what would you call the guy who was installed as President, as a result of such a rigged system?
stands for decibels
January 24th, 2013
7:39 am
(”when your political *party* can’t manage”, meant to post, my bad.)
Mick
January 24th, 2013
7:39 am
Ben-ghazi! The rights version of remember the alamo..never mind the iraqi debacle misadventure still impacts 30k seriously wounded vets to this day…
Granny Godzilla
January 24th, 2013
7:40 am
dictator?
dictator? oh yes.
stands for decibels
January 24th, 2013
7:41 am
Who gave the order not to send nukes! huh? I demand to know!
Thug
January 24th, 2013
7:43 am
…and in Washington Hillary cashes in on lying.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 24th, 2013
7:44 am
Granny G – one of my favorite lines from the erstwhile “Good Morning Miami” sitcom was “You’re acting like a dictator – and I just added the ‘tater’ part because I’m your grandmother and I love you.”
Granny Godzilla
January 24th, 2013
7:44 am
Found the article…..WOnder if that little boy made it out of that….
stands for decibels
January 24th, 2013
7:44 am
A wee reminder–for years, whenever some rightie posts favorable comments about Hillary, and how she has “bigger balls” than Obama, and oh how they wish she’d been elected instead of Obama…
I’ve been pointing out that casual misogyny is far more socially acceptable, still, in the USA than casual racism, and if it had in fact been President Hillary, if anything the vitriol against her would be even worse that that absorbed by Obama.
This inconvenient truth will be born out by the swarm of Butthurt-over-Benghazi-Brigaders who’ll continue posting the nonsense they’re fed by their masters, today.
stands for decibels
January 24th, 2013
7:47 am
The longer-term fate of the Medicaid hospice program is uncertain.
well of course. In Conservo-land, decent medical treatment is a privilege, not a right, and you are dependent upon the tender mercies of the plutocracy deciding how big of a tax break they’re entitled to take in a given year as to whether or not you’re provided that treatment.
Granny Godzilla
January 24th, 2013
7:50 am
stands…
let’s see will hear that Carville staged Hillary tears…or lip synch crying…we’ll hear the I word….
Checking in after the dictator gets another 4 years
January 24th, 2013
7:52 am
So decibels, not performing your job of keeping your Ambassadors from being murdered by terrorists by providing proper levels of security in a “hot zone’ is just a bunch of cons being Benghazied butthurters for asking questions…….and trotting out a low level minion on Sunday talk shows to tell us it was a video no one has seen was the problem ? You commies kill me.
Ol' Timer
January 24th, 2013
7:55 am
Hospice care versus an emergency room admission to intensive care. Now, which do you suppose is the most cost effective? Aliens have invaded the country and sucked the common sense out of the brains of a substantial number of people — mostly tea party Republicans. Well, that’s the best explanation for the idiocy I can come up with.
Granny Godzilla
January 24th, 2013
7:59 am
Checking in after the dictator gets another 4 years
January 24th, 2013
7:52 am
So decibels, not performing your job of keeping your Ambassadors from being murdered by terrorists by providing proper levels of security in a “hot zone’ is just a bunch of cons being Benghazied butthurters for asking questions…….and trotting out a low level minion on Sunday talk shows to tell us it was a video no one has seen was the problem ? You commies kill me.
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We could, but we prefer you to continue to suffer.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 24th, 2013
8:00 am
“So decibels, not performing your job of keeping your Ambassadors from being murdered by terrorists ”
oh, REALLY …
2002 – US consulate is attacked and 10 killed
2004 – US embassy in Uzbekistan is attacked, 2 killed / 9 injured
2004 – US consulate in Saudi Arabia is attacked, 8 killed
2006 – US embassy in Syria is attacked, 1 killed
2007 – grenade attack on US embassy in Greece
2008 – US embassey in Serbia is firebombed
2008 – bombing of US embassy kills 10 …
but, Republicans STILL felt the need to cut funding for State Department security.
so, bite me.
stands for decibels
January 24th, 2013
8:03 am
You commies kill me.
I can only wish.
stands for decibels
January 24th, 2013
8:05 am
mostly tea party Republicans.
Anyone had a look at how “tea party” is polling these days?
http://www.pollingreport.com/politics.htm
…it was a “movement,” all right.