In Louisiana, Jindal slashes aid to the dying
UPDATE: This evening, the Jindal administration announced that it was suspending — through June 30 — its announced plan to cease funding of Medicaid hospice services. As the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports:
“…. on Wednesday, the administration reversed course. The program will be maintained for the rest of the state’s fiscal year, which ends June 30, with the use of “temporary bridge funding,” according to a news release from the Department of Health and Hospitals. The release referred to that money as grant funding but did not specify where it came from or how reallocating it to hospice care would affect other state programs.”
The longer-term fate of the Medicaid hospice program is uncertain.
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How do conservatives propose to cut Medicare and Medicaid spending?
Gov. Bobby Jindal, oft-mentioned as a 2016 presidential contender, is going about it in a number of ways, including an executive order that will end Medicaid coverage of hospice services as of February 1. Each year, some 1,700 less affluent residents of Louisiana have benefited from those services.
“In a strongly worded statement released on Thursday, the Louisiana-Mississippi Hospice and Palliative Care Organization’s (LMHPCO) Board of Directors stated that it was “shocked and saddened” by Gov. Jindal’s recent decision to eliminate the Medicaid hospice benefit, effective February 1, 2013.
“While the board strongly disagrees with this decision, the board is even more confused by the administration’s assertion that this action will save the state $10.6 million in FY 2014,” the board stated.
“For 10 years, the Medicaid Hospice Benefit has provided terminally ill patients and their families in Louisiana with the confidence they need to forgo expensive end-of-life hospital admissions. According to the administration, Louisiana Medicaid spent $11,430,414.14 on hospice services for some 5,189 recipients in 2012 — an average of $2,202.81 per patient.
With or without hospice, these terminally ill patients will die. The average length of stay for hospice patients in Louisiana is 72 days, with 50 percent of our patients dying within 26 days of enrollment. Without hospice, as these terminal patients decline, they will typically be transported to the nearest hospital emergency room by ambulance, and will subsequently be moved into the hospital’s intensive care units — costing the state’s Medicaid system at least four times the cost of hospice care.”
Hospice, almost by definition, is not a life-saving intervention. It is a death-management intervention. As the Louisiana hospice officials note, this alleged “savings” will almost certainly result in higher costs to taxpayers, as people who are denied professional hospice care seek medical assistance in more expensive ways.
But beyond that bottom-line analysis, there’s a question of morality and decency. Like millions of Americans, I have witnessed first-hand the value of hospice both for the terminally ill patient and for his or her loved ones. The fact that Jindal is enacting this reduction as a way to help finance the elimination of state corporate and income taxes only compounds the tragic nature of the misjudgment.
– Jay Bookman
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Jay
January 23rd, 2013
8:48 pm
So td, you agree the headline is accurate. You merely think it’s a good idea, correct?
td
January 23rd, 2013
8:49 pm
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
8:45 pm
So it is acceptable to you that we should continue to provide the day to day subsistence for 25% of our population? It is acceptable to turn 25% of our population into dependency of government instead of giving them a work ethic of self reliance?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 23rd, 2013
8:50 pm
Bottom line:
Cut all of the waste, fraud and abuse in federal and state budgets and the problem is solved.
clem
January 23rd, 2013
8:51 pm
tall in his mind only
td
January 23rd, 2013
8:52 pm
Jay
January 23rd, 2013
8:48 pm
So td, you agree the headline is accurate. You merely think it’s a good idea, correct?
Technically accurate but way over the top on political rhetoric.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 23rd, 2013
8:52 pm
Did anyone see the Hildabeast throw that tantrum today?
Makes you almost feel sorry for Bill.
Elections Have Consequences
January 23rd, 2013
8:54 pm
Just curious-how does this number compare with the 700B in Medicare cuts by Obama?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2012/10/02/the-ratio-of-obamacares-medicare-cuts-to-new-benefits-is-fifteen-to-one/
td
January 23rd, 2013
8:55 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 23rd, 2013
8:52 pm
Did anyone see the Hildabeast throw that tantrum today?
Makes you almost feel sorry for Bill.
If that was in public with her still considering a run for President can you imagine what happened behind the scene when she found out about Monica.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 23rd, 2013
8:55 pm
Headline: “WOMEN TO COMBAT FRONTLINES”
Time for women in the NFL now.
Each team should be required to have two on the field at all times that way the game will still be equal.
Oh ………….. the teams won’t be as good but they will be EQUAL.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
8:56 pm
“So it is acceptable to you that we should continue to provide the day to day subsistence for 25% of our population?”
If the alternative is to have them starving and dying in the streets? Yes, it is acceptable. I think we could make some improvements in the system to help some of them become more self-supporting, but in these days of employment being a buyers market…even the most rugged individualists are having trouble getting jobs. So yes, if we need to support those who are less fortunate….well, I consider it the Christian thing to do.
Jay
January 23rd, 2013
8:57 pm
Why “over the top”?
It is not merely technically accurate, it is perfectly accurate. That’s what he fully intended to do, correct?
Jay
January 23rd, 2013
9:00 pm
Consequences, the $700 billion was a reduction in payments to service providers — hospitals, etc. — not a reduction in services to recipients. In addition, it was negotiated with the service providers, who agreed to support it because they understood that they would make it up by no longer having to provide unfunded care for the uninsured thanks to ObamaCare.
In other words, there is no comparison.
Lynnie Gal
January 23rd, 2013
9:00 pm
This action by Jindal proves that conservative Republicans are not about saving tax dollars like they claim. No. They are actually cruel, vicious sociopaths who want to inflict the most suffering possible on the poor and middle class after they take every safety net and decent paying job away from them. Now, this clearly illustrates that Republicans and their gun-toting supporters are tools of pure evil.
Jay
January 23rd, 2013
9:01 pm
As somebody put it on my Facebook page, it’s a good thing they don’t have ice floes in Louisiana. Now THAT might be a little over the top.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 23rd, 2013
9:01 pm
td:
Trust me ………… I “know” what happened !
Tall
January 23rd, 2013
9:01 pm
…Each year, some 1,700 less affluent residents of Louisiana have benefited from those services…”
Jay:
Private donations…perhaps. There are some conservatives – like myself – who want and will raise the funds through private donations. I’m Catholic. We do care and don’t want to see people suffer – any one, not just Catholic. Your least favorite President was on the right track with “faith based charity.”
We care because we follow the examples of our saviour. Governor Jindahl has a budget to balance.
The number of folks that benefit from that service is not that largel – 1700 – we can raise the funds to help them.
See you at St. Jude this Sunday.
bman.
January 23rd, 2013
9:04 pm
every night I turn on CNN and this Morgan fellow is raving on about guns. Does he ever discuss anything else?
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
9:04 pm
I think providing hospice at their homes is cheaper.
They are chasing fed grants and donations after his cuts.
He is screwing up everything like the cons do.
He will never be President but a adviser probably told him to reverse course.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
9:06 pm
bman – he IS British, you know.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:07 pm
“every night I turn on CNN and this Morgan fellow is raving on about guns. Does he ever discuss anything else?”
What’s the matter, only got 1 channel on your TV and it won’t turn off or turn the volume down?
td
January 23rd, 2013
9:08 pm
Jay
January 23rd, 2013
8:57 pm
Why “over the top”?
Because the headline makes the casual feel the governor is killing people before their time to die instead of cutting hospice care for people that can go back to their families or charity groups to make them more comfortable in their last days.
Again I will ask you, why is it the governments responsibility to provide hospice care to people in the first place and not their families, charities or churches?
Tall
January 23rd, 2013
9:08 pm
….”With or without hospice, these terminally ill patients will die….
Well,,,yes, Read this statement. They will die. Let’s just make it as comfortable as we can.
You have no ideas…just gotchas……A new ministry for Catholic charities. Take it away from government.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
9:10 pm
I would not want to get in an argument with Hillery, that’s for sure, Especially not on national telwevision.
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
9:11 pm
“why is it the governments responsibility to provide hospice care to people in the first place and not their families, charities or churches?”
Because the Dems care about people and passed it silly.
Mick
January 23rd, 2013
9:11 pm
If you think about it, it truly is ok for republicans to be out front and proudly flying their colors because its a one way street back to permanent minority party status. Who’s the real republican? Eisenhower was a friggin godsend for the fifties, the interstate, much more equitable tax structure, no attacks on social security and a warning about the nexis of the military industrial complex.
This crew today led by the despicable mitch mcconnell in the senate and the confused budgeteer paul ryan in the house, is the very embodiment of a clustermuck! What a failing cult…
td
January 23rd, 2013
9:12 pm
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
8:56 pm
“So it is acceptable to you that we should continue to provide the day to day subsistence for 25% of our population?”
If the alternative is to have them starving and dying in the streets? Yes, it is acceptable. I think we could make some improvements in the system to help some of them become more self-supporting, but in these days of employment being a buyers market…even the most rugged individualists are having trouble getting jobs. So yes, if we need to support those who are less fortunate….well, I consider it the Christian thing to do.
And what happens when they lose all hope and come to change their mindset of self reliance to dependency? What happens when the numbers rise to 30, 40 or 50% believe they are entitled to not have to work and just depend on government?
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
9:12 pm
Hillary is a fighter plain and simple.
I hope the gop pushed her to run again.
Tall
January 23rd, 2013
9:12 pm
…”This action by Jindal proves that conservative Republicans are not about saving tax dollars like they claim. No. They are actually cruel, vicious sociopaths who want to inflict the most suffering possible on the poor and middle class after they take every safety net and decent paying job away from them. Now, this clearly illustrates that Republicans and their gun-toting supporters are tools of pure evil….”
You disgusting creeps….
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:13 pm
“A new ministry for Catholic charities”
And do the Catholic charities WANT that job? And if they do, will they serve the non-Catholic community? Or will it only be Catholics?
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
9:13 pm
td Back to the discussion we were having several pages ago, it is the nature of animals, including but not limited to human animals, to care for their sick, injured and affirm.
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
9:14 pm
The 1700 do not have lobbyists donating to him to run for President.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
9:14 pm
Scout,
For someone who was dodging bullets in Bosnia Secretary Clinton sure looked awfully thin skinned today in the questioning. Rand Paul gave her a verbal beatdown. What is it with her and Obama being so think skinned anyhow?
td
January 23rd, 2013
9:14 pm
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
8:56 pm
One last thought. There is dignity in work no matter what the work is. Why is it acceptable for us to deprive that dignity from people by making them self reliant?
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
9:16 pm
td – only to the point we can afford. then we become like india
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:16 pm
“And what happens when they lose all hope and come to change their mindset of self reliance to dependency? What happens when the numbers rise to 30, 40 or 50% believe they are entitled to not have to work and just depend on government?”
In case you missed it, I DID say we could improve it. But why do you think being well-fed and healthy will lead to losing all hope, but being starving and ill wouldn’t? I refer you to the plight of the “Okies” (and others) during the Depression for what REALLY leads to despair.
Tall
January 23rd, 2013
9:17 pm
Lynnie Gal: When you give everything to everyone.. eventually there will be nothing for no one. When the entitlement checks start to bounce….you will then understand why Homeland Security has been the largest buyer of hollow point ammunition.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
9:17 pm
doom – they just don’t suffer fools gladly.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 23rd, 2013
9:18 pm
Funny, for over 4 yrs we’ve heard how much better Hillary would have been as a Presidential candidate rather than Obama… suddenly she is a beast again.
td
January 23rd, 2013
9:18 pm
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
9:13 pm
td Back to the discussion we were having several pages ago, it is the nature of animals, including but not limited to human animals, to care for their sick, injured and affirm
I agree that it is the nature of the individual but government is not a human being. The individual should donate to charity or other organizations and the family should go back to the days and take responsibility for caring for family.
Tall
January 23rd, 2013
9:18 pm
Doggone/GA:
Re read the post. Damn…..
Mick
January 23rd, 2013
9:19 pm
doom
**Rand Paul gave her a verbal beatdown**
What the hell were you watching? Rand paul came off as the class a doofus that he is. That’s your hero? Sad…
bman.
January 23rd, 2013
9:19 pm
“What’s the matter, only got 1 channel on your TV and it won’t turn off or turn the volume down?”
Oh, I have many channels. I sort of do the click-thru thing just to see what’s happening. Why would you reply to my comment?
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:20 pm
“Back to the discussion we were having several pages ago, it is the nature of animals, including but not limited to human animals, to care for their sick, injured and affirm”
Learned your animal “facts” from Walt Disney I see. You have GOT to be kidding. Animals, ALL animals, may make an effort to help weaker members, but ALL of them will eventually abandon them if they can’t “make it” And in those animal species that live more or less solitary lives, if they are too injured to catch or find their own food…they DIE, and there is no “care” from others of their species.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
9:20 pm
Point being, we shold do what our budget will allow us to, right now, we need to cut medicare and defense.
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
9:21 pm
rand looked a fool but that is acceptable in con world.
I bet her poll numbers get better.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
9:22 pm
Doggone – my facts are correct. Wher did you get your misinformation?
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2013
9:23 pm
“I would not want to get in an argument with Hillery (sic), that’s for sure, Especially not on national telwevision (sic).”
That’s because she’s got twice the brain and 4 times the balls of most men.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:23 pm
“One last thought. There is dignity in work no matter what the work is. Why is it acceptable for us to deprive that dignity from people by making them self reliant?”
When there are NO JOBS FOR THEM TO DO, why is it acceptable to throw them into the streets to starve and die and beg?
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
9:24 pm
“By the way, I should stress that Jindal is using grant money from the hated federal government to continue the program.”
Or another way to look at it is that Jindal is just getting back money that LA. state taxpayers paid to the federal gubment.
Tall
January 23rd, 2013
9:24 pm
…Point being, we shold do what our budget will allow us to, right now, we need to cut medicare and defense…”
..and the budgets for the Department of Energy, the SEC, the Small Business Administration, the Department of Agriculture, and simplify the Federal Tax Code. Add the Federal Reserve as well. OH..and the Department of Transportation – shouldn’t the respective states handle that?
td
January 23rd, 2013
9:24 pm
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:16 pm
If it was just Food Stamps and Medicaid for the working poor then you might have a very valid point. You have to ask yourself what other entitlements are available to those that chose not to work? TANF, Section 8 housing, other fannie, freddie and hud programs for low cost or no cost housing, Low energy heating assistance, Obamaphone, future free internet…
Now where is the incentive to work a low wage job when the person chose not to study and dropped out of school, never developed a marketable skill set and chose to have children out of wedlock and before they can pay for them?.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:25 pm
“Funny, for over 4 yrs we’ve heard how much better Hillary would have been as a Presidential candidate rather than Obama… suddenly she is a beast again”
Yep, I noticed that too.
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2013
9:26 pm
All you ranting RepugNOwecan’ts (hey, I kinda like the sound of that) had better start getting used to Hillary Clinton. She will be our next president.
Uh Huh....No one can rate a burden's weight until it has been on his back
January 23rd, 2013
9:26 pm
“Jindal is using grant money from the hated federal government to continue the program.”
JINDAL is an unsympathetic HYPOCRITE.
“Jindal the turtle makes progress only when he sticks his neck out.”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 23rd, 2013
9:26 pm
Thulsa:
They are so thin skinned because liberals in general run on emotion.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
9:27 pm
“When there are NO JOBS FOR THEM TO DO, why is it acceptable to throw them into the streets to starve and die and beg?”
Of course there are no jobs. Which is why millions of illiterate people who can’t even speak English traveled thousands of miles and through an inhospitable desert to take jobs to support not only themselves here but families back home- cause there aint no jobs.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:28 pm
“Now where is the incentive to work a low wage job when the person chose not to study and dropped out of school, never developed a marketable skill set and chose to have children out of wedlock and before they can pay for them?.”
If the alternative is throwing them into the streets to starve and die and beg, it’s the Christian thing to do.
Uh Huh....No one can rate a burden's weight until it has been on his back
January 23rd, 2013
9:28 pm
ALL hail the QUEEN in 2016.
Hillary the 1st.
Tall
January 23rd, 2013
9:28 pm
…I would not want to get in an argument with Hillery (sic), that’s for sure, Especially not on national telwevision (sic).”
That’s because she’s got twice the brain and 4 times the balls of most men….
Speak for yourself. When you have nothing to lose and no shame….so what?
Four good men are dead – and it doesn’t matter? See the video interviews of the moms of these men who were murdered. In the case of the Ambassador – sodomized as well. See how they feel.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
9:29 pm
“..because liberals in general run on emotion.”
Scout,
And therein lies the whole problem with their mentality. Making foolish decisions based on emotion as opposed to rational, logical thought.
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
9:30 pm
It was the con knee jerk reaction to attack our President after the attack in Libya to prove cons run on emotion.
td
January 23rd, 2013
9:30 pm
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:23 pm
“One last thought. There is dignity in work no matter what the work is. Why is it acceptable for us to deprive that dignity from people by making them self reliant?”
When there are NO JOBS FOR THEM TO DO, why is it acceptable to throw them into the streets to starve and die and beg?
I bet if they had to do community service for their entitlements then a great deal of jobs would be found and in return open more jobs to deal with increased demand for products.
Plain Truth
January 23rd, 2013
9:31 pm
Hillary is a liar just like her husband! Those killings are on her hands!
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:31 pm
“Four good men are dead – and it doesn’t matter?”
She never said that. Why is it always a misquote that is the foundation of a rant? Do you guys ALWAYS have to lie to make whatever tiny point you think you are making?
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
9:31 pm
Drama queens are today’s gop and cons.
“Facts don’t matter” and living in a make believe world.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:33 pm
“I bet if they had to do community service for their entitlements then a great deal of jobs would be found and in return open more jobs to deal with increased demand for products”
Once again…yet AGAIN…I *did* say there were improvements that could be made. Are you deliberately ignoring that?
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
9:33 pm
Be back in a moment. Got to step out for a minute and help a neighbor throw another neighbor out into the street so that he can starve to death. I’m sure this is a scene being repeated all over LA. Probably gonna be hundreds of thousands of folks later this month just laying on the side of the street starving to death. kd
Mick
January 23rd, 2013
9:33 pm
**liberals in general run on emotion.**
Hmmm…..might want to rethink that comment, emotion is human. Yes, many people care about humanity deeply.
tall
**our good men are dead – and it doesn’t matter?**
Whats your point? As I recall condi rice was NSA when 3000 americans were attacked and killed, is she to blame???
td
January 23rd, 2013
9:33 pm
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:28 pm
“Now where is the incentive to work a low wage job when the person chose not to study and dropped out of school, never developed a marketable skill set and chose to have children out of wedlock and before they can pay for them?.”
If the alternative is throwing them into the streets to starve and die and beg, it’s the Christian thing to do.
Another point. If people had the realization that they might get thrown on the streets then they would start realizing that it is better to stay coupled up and depend on your mate then to move from one to another because it feels good.
bman.
January 23rd, 2013
9:34 pm
“Of course there are no jobs. Which is why millions of illiterate people who can’t even speak English traveled thousands of miles and through an inhospitable desert to take jobs to support not only themselves here but families back home- cause there aint no jobs.”
that was pretty funny…
The solution: Soylent Green
January 23rd, 2013
9:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edQNjJZFdLU
td
January 23rd, 2013
9:36 pm
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:33 pm
“I bet if they had to do community service for their entitlements then a great deal of jobs would be found and in return open more jobs to deal with increased demand for products”
Once again…yet AGAIN…I *did* say there were improvements that could be made. Are you deliberately ignoring that?
I saw the rhetoric but I have not seen any potential improvements or advocating for change so I just thought it was just a talking point and something you did not really mean.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
9:36 pm
What the hell were you watching? Biden paul came off as the class a doofus that he is. That’s your hero? Sad…
Mick,
I think you were temporarily confused so I corrected your typo to reflect the ass that Joe Biden made out of himself in the VP debate.
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
9:36 pm
We tried your ideology and it failed cons.
You pretend the gop can govern but they can’t.
They failed and we got disaster after disaster.
You look like rand, fools.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 23rd, 2013
9:37 pm
Doggone, because pinheads can only make tiny points?
Tall
January 23rd, 2013
9:37 pm
Doggone/Ga:
What am I lying about? Maybe she didn’t say that- exactly – but that was is what is intended. And what am I ranting about?
…”Four dead and Nixon’s coming…and we’re finally on our own.” Ring a bell?
Mick
January 23rd, 2013
9:37 pm
**as opposed to rational, logical thought.**
Hahahahaha
Obama is a kenyan marxist
king obama is going to take your guns
Where’s his birth certificate?
Torture is good and on and on…
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2013
9:37 pm
“Four good men are dead – and it doesn’t matter?”
Four thousand good men are dead because King Dumbass the First told us lies.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:38 pm
“Another point. If people had the realization that they might get thrown on the streets then they would start realizing that it is better to stay coupled up and depend on your mate then to move from one to another because it feels good.”
Yeah, that worked SO WELL during the Depression. Personally, I am of the opinion that you would enjoy seeing them in the streets so you can feel superior to them.
And no, I will not EVER apologize for the opinion.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 23rd, 2013
9:38 pm
More cost cutting !
Headline (AJC): “Vote cuts inmate beds”
“Fulton County jailer says move will immediately force some female inmates to sleep on the floor.”
Hummmm …………… I slept on the ground for a year and it didn’t kill me.
P.S. I got a poncho. I bet they at least get a mattress.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
9:39 pm
Tall – building roads was one of the enumerated powers given to congress in the constitution. One of the problems under the articles of confederation was that the respective states were contolling the roads. Did not work out Keep the department of transporation. It’s in the constitution.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:40 pm
“I just thought it was just a talking point and something you did not really mean”
You thought wrong, and it has been discussed here many times with many good suggestions made for improvements. Pity you weren’t here to participate in them.
Gun control, Chicago style...
January 23rd, 2013
9:41 pm
With at least 18 homicides in the first ten days of 2013, Chicago, Illinois is on pace for more than 700 murders this year – a figure which would far surpass last year’s 516 and leave New York City’s murder rate in the dust.
In 2012, a total of 516 people were murdered in Chicago, most of which occurred in the city’s notoriously dangerous West and South Sides. Last year’s deadliest month was August, in which 57 people were murdered in the Windy City, many at the end of a gun barrel.
Mick
January 23rd, 2013
9:41 pm
doom @ 9:36
Weak…very weak, I think you didn’t have enough wheaties this morning…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 23rd, 2013
9:41 pm
Thulsa @ 9:29
Thank you.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:42 pm
“Doggone, because pinheads can only make tiny points?”
yeah, something like that…for sure
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
9:42 pm
doggone – 9:31 – because misquotes are all they have to go on. When they use the real quotes, cons lose
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
9:43 pm
“Hmmm…..might want to rethink that comment, emotion is human. Yes, many people care about humanity deeply.”
Mick,
I hear ya. Everybody feels emotion. The difference I see though is that liberals tend to make bad decisions based on emotion and the really big difference is that anytime there is a perceived problem liberals think that the govt has to step in and “do something”. They just scream that the gubment got to “do something”. Do something. Do anything. Just do something- all based on emotions. And what generally happens is that the gubment “does something” and the “doing something” usually ends up either creating more problems or wasting an inordinate amount of resources and tax money on a problem that in actuality is either minor, random, or greatly exaggerated, or is a problem that no matter how much you throw at it in resources you’re never going to solve it. You’ll just end up wasting enormous resources because emotionally charged people demanded that “something has just got to be done.”
Tall
January 23rd, 2013
9:43 pm
Soothsayer: Do you think our current commander in chief would be able to take credit for killing Osama bin Laden if those 4,000 servicemen didn’t serve? By the way, did you hear the rumour that Syria may have obtained chemical weapons from one it’s deposed neighbors? The Russian State Department is evacuation all Russian citizens from Syria. Any coincidence?
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:44 pm
“What am I lying about? Maybe she didn’t say that- exactly – but that was is what is intended”
So now you are a mind-reader with full access to her intentions. Why don’t you try UNDERSTANDING what she actually said instead of basing your poor logic on what you THINK she meant?
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
9:45 pm
After we return to full employment there will be no cuts.
States should rethink their mental health care cuts.
Tall
January 23rd, 2013
9:45 pm
Doggone/Ga:
Call it a night.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:46 pm
“doggone – 9:31 – because misquotes are all they have to go on. When they use the real quotes, cons lose”
yep, I’ve noticed. And once learned they can NEVER change what they think they “know”…hence my references lately to “WORMs” for brains.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
9:46 pm
“Weak…very weak, I think you didn’t have enough wheaties this morning…”
Mick,
You got me there. I’m cutting back on the high glycemic crap like cereals, white flour, etc. The weight is starting to drop. Pretty soon the belly won’t be flopping over the speedo. I better not say anymore bout dat though. I don’t want any kreeps out there to start getting all salivating frothy ya understand.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
9:46 pm
Tall = either yowatched only a small part of the testimony or you have severe comprehension skills.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
9:49 pm
severly limited comprehension skills
Tiger and Phil -- case studies in Obama economics
January 23rd, 2013
9:49 pm
Hundreds of thousands have left California for the same reason. It is gauling to see the government take 60% or so of these peoples income and turn it over to the illegal aliens through welfare and subsistance payments.
td
January 23rd, 2013
9:49 pm
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:38 pm
I understand your feeling. The only way you can justify a major tenant of the left in your heart when your head is saying you are wrong is to feel morally superior to the correct viewpoint. Very understandable.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
9:49 pm
“Do you think our current commander in chief would be able to take credit for killing Osama bin Laden if those 4,000 servicemen didn’t serve?”
Yes, since they died in Iraq and Bin Laden was nowhere near there…in Pakistan.
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2013
9:51 pm
“Do you think our current commander in chief would be able to take credit for killing Osama bin Laden if those 4,000 servicemen didn’t serve?”
Well, now, let me think about that for a moment. Those servicemen died in EYE-rack. Osama bin Laden was killed in Pakistan. I’m trying real hard to make a connection there.
“By the way, did you hear the rumour that Syria may have obtained chemical weapons from one it’s deposed neighbors?”
No, but I distinctly remember the rumour (lie) that King Dumbass the First told us about the “weapons of mass destruction in EYE-rack.
“The Russian State Department is evacuation all Russian citizens from Syria. Any coincidence?”
Yes, they’re removing their citizens from harm’s way due to the upcoming war.