In Louisiana, Jindal slashes aid to the dying
UPDATE: This evening, the Jindal administration announced that it was suspending — through June 30 — its announced plan to cease funding of Medicaid hospice services. As the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports:
“…. on Wednesday, the administration reversed course. The program will be maintained for the rest of the state’s fiscal year, which ends June 30, with the use of “temporary bridge funding,” according to a news release from the Department of Health and Hospitals. The release referred to that money as grant funding but did not specify where it came from or how reallocating it to hospice care would affect other state programs.”
The longer-term fate of the Medicaid hospice program is uncertain.
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How do conservatives propose to cut Medicare and Medicaid spending?
Gov. Bobby Jindal, oft-mentioned as a 2016 presidential contender, is going about it in a number of ways, including an executive order that will end Medicaid coverage of hospice services as of February 1. Each year, some 1,700 less affluent residents of Louisiana have benefited from those services.
“In a strongly worded statement released on Thursday, the Louisiana-Mississippi Hospice and Palliative Care Organization’s (LMHPCO) Board of Directors stated that it was “shocked and saddened” by Gov. Jindal’s recent decision to eliminate the Medicaid hospice benefit, effective February 1, 2013.
“While the board strongly disagrees with this decision, the board is even more confused by the administration’s assertion that this action will save the state $10.6 million in FY 2014,” the board stated.
“For 10 years, the Medicaid Hospice Benefit has provided terminally ill patients and their families in Louisiana with the confidence they need to forgo expensive end-of-life hospital admissions. According to the administration, Louisiana Medicaid spent $11,430,414.14 on hospice services for some 5,189 recipients in 2012 — an average of $2,202.81 per patient.
With or without hospice, these terminally ill patients will die. The average length of stay for hospice patients in Louisiana is 72 days, with 50 percent of our patients dying within 26 days of enrollment. Without hospice, as these terminal patients decline, they will typically be transported to the nearest hospital emergency room by ambulance, and will subsequently be moved into the hospital’s intensive care units — costing the state’s Medicaid system at least four times the cost of hospice care.”
Hospice, almost by definition, is not a life-saving intervention. It is a death-management intervention. As the Louisiana hospice officials note, this alleged “savings” will almost certainly result in higher costs to taxpayers, as people who are denied professional hospice care seek medical assistance in more expensive ways.
But beyond that bottom-line analysis, there’s a question of morality and decency. Like millions of Americans, I have witnessed first-hand the value of hospice both for the terminally ill patient and for his or her loved ones. The fact that Jindal is enacting this reduction as a way to help finance the elimination of state corporate and income taxes only compounds the tragic nature of the misjudgment.
– Jay Bookman
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574 comments Add your comment
Jay
January 23rd, 2013
6:56 pm
Jindal has now announced that he is reversing the policy, at least for a year.
cobbmom
January 23rd, 2013
6:57 pm
Enter your comments here
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
6:57 pm
josef
“Well, guess that takes the wind out of this one…”
Not as long as there’s a diversion or a rabbit hole someone can come up with -
JohnnyReb
January 23rd, 2013
6:58 pm
Chew on this
http://washingtonexaminer.com/noemie-emery-mount-rushmore-on-hold/article/2519382#.UP-qz6VMZhM
Jay
January 23rd, 2013
6:58 pm
Correction, through June 30.
stan
January 23rd, 2013
6:59 pm
what are these people crying for at 2 plus million per patient i think i could round up a lot of caregivers to take care of those folks,i might be wrong but when i was growing up there was no hospice ,everybody took care of there own. i am sorry but i think of hospice as the other side of plann parent hood ,one kills at birth and one kills at old age but with the tax payer money,there is no way it cost 2 million dollars per person ,with 2 million dollars i think i could persuade an old person too live a lot longer,and be very comfortable
yuzeyurbrane
January 23rd, 2013
6:59 pm
What a strong bench of Governors the GOP has! Where are the Death Panel folks? Or the ones who can’t stop crying over the “death” of fetuses for stem cell research? They are down at their local gun shows getting their Bushmasters. . . or they are getting elected as Governors.
josef
January 23rd, 2013
7:01 pm
cobbmom
Say what? You must have led a REALLY sheltered existence…
PAUL
True, that!
In the middle
January 23rd, 2013
7:01 pm
Once again another borish load of bs. I know it is easy to use this as another means to try and paint everybody in the whole world that isn’t a liberal as evil. But just for the sake of using brains, let’s try something new.
Hospice care is important and is not a polotical football for liberal jerks to toss about. The decision to defund hospice is wrong. This is a very important service and necessary service. It is not about dying “cheaper” I disagree with Jindal, but I dont hate everbody that doesnt stay in locked step with me on every issue.
One thing is certain though, I seriously doubt if you actually bothered to get all of the facts. So the idea is that Jindal is the boogey man that likes people to die blah blah blah…….The presumption is that he woke up one day and just decided to do this for no reason what so ever, just a spur of the moment idea with no other factors involved.
Jay, address the issue for what it is and quit pandering. If it is wrong than it is wrong, if it is right etc.. but at least take an additional 30 seconds from your copy and paste routine to find out all the facts. I did a little more research and even though I still disagree with him, I know what factores were involved in the decision making process, and not one of them involved the boogey man.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:01 pm
It only makes sense if he also stops payments to hospitals for treating terminally ill patients. Do that and we will be making progress.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
7:01 pm
“Correction, through June 30.”
Following the lead of the House of Representatives on the debt ceiing: kick that can down the road
indigo
January 23rd, 2013
7:02 pm
Plain Truth – 5:51
Abortion is NOT even mentioned in either The Old or New Testament.
So, what makes you think anyone will stand in judgement for it?
Plain Truth
January 23rd, 2013
7:04 pm
Abortion is murder! That’s pretty simple!
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:05 pm
It’s not in the constitution either.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:06 pm
murder is a leag term. Defined by laws passed by the legislature.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
7:06 pm
“Abortion is murder! That’s pretty simple!”
Yes, it is simple. Too bad it’s a lie
Rockerbabe
January 23rd, 2013
7:06 pm
Well, Jindal is from Louisana; enough said. Oh by the way, he is catholic. So much for christian compassion and catholic prolife stance. Oh, I forget, there isn’t an unwilling pregnant woman involved, so its OK to kill of old and sick citizens by denying care. Talk about death panels. As my dad used to say, “penny wise and pound foolish”.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:07 pm
The law is a human institution.
Ben Franklin. Jr.
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
7:08 pm
“Jindal has now announced that he is reversing the policy, at least for a year.”
So goes the Republican version of healthcare reform -
TaxPayer
January 23rd, 2013
7:08 pm
Abortion is one of those things God intended. In fact, God aborted 600,000 last year just in the US.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:08 pm
rockerblae – Your daddy was Ben Franklin? amazing.
josef
January 23rd, 2013
7:09 pm
ROCKERBABE
“Well, Jindal is from Louisana; enough said.”
Really? Do tell some of more…we’d like to know why you think that’s enough….
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:10 pm
Terminally ill people having abortions in hospice. wow
Uh Huh.....Uh Huh........No one can rate a burden's weight until it has been on his back
January 23rd, 2013
7:11 pm
“Besides love and sympathy, animals exhibit other qualities connected with the social instincts which in us would be called moral.”
― Charles Darwin
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:11 pm
Terry Bradshaw is from Louisiana. Enough said.
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
7:11 pm
Plain Truth
You too embarrassed to post that stuff under your previous names?
Well, of course you are!
Hint: repeating it with a new name does not make it convincing.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
7:13 pm
“Besides love and sympathy, animals exhibit other qualities connected with the social instincts which in us would be called moral.”
And some we would call immoral
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:16 pm
Wolverines are the only animal that kills without reason or need for food. vicous litte things. must be from la also
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
7:16 pm
josef
Okay… I have to say it….
Even though I have family in Louisiana…
there are still way better hot sauces than McHilenny Tabasco.
There. I’ve said it.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
7:18 pm
“Wolverines are the only animal that kills without reason or need for food. vicous litte things. must be from la also”
Actually, no they aren’t
indigo
January 23rd, 2013
7:20 pm
Oscar – 7:16
No, they do not kill for no reason.
josef
January 23rd, 2013
7:20 pm
PAUL
Heretic!
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:20 pm
dog name another
Jay
January 23rd, 2013
7:21 pm
So, “In the middle,” you are absolutely sure that somewhere, there are facts that would make this somehow less offensive than it really is … you just don’t know what those facts might be.
Oh, and you criticize me for not finding those facts for you.
Do I have that right?
Jaime
January 23rd, 2013
7:22 pm
They can’t show you where in the Constitution it says that we are required to provide healthcare for all……or food stamps, or section 8 housing, or anything else.
I work in Public Health and spend plenty of time with WIC, Medicaid, and DFACS so I know what I am talking about and it would make sense for people to listen to those of us on the front lines. I wish any politician or talking head (or blog reporter) would come spend a week or so with us so they could understand the complexities of the problems that we face.
1. Many choices go into getting the baby home: a) the choice whether or not to have sex b) the choice to use reliable birth control (we give it away for free all day, everyday!) c) the choice to be responsible for actually using said birth control correctly d) the choice to keep the pregnancy (and don’t even start with me about killing babies – I don’t want to hear it until YOU are prepared to pay for these kids because, personally, I’m sick of it) e) the choice to take the baby home – adoption is an underutilized solution to many of our problems.
2. There is no real deterrent to getting pregnant and having a baby. There is a revolving door of very happy women (and the occasional, very occasional, man) coming in to take a pregnancy test for
‘proof of pregnancy’ so they can get signed up for Medicaid and WIC. Now, if I became pregnant without insurance, I would be on the hook for, at best, $12,000 to pay for prenatal care and delivery. As a working, productive member of society, I have a deterrent so I make responsible choices.
I work in Family Planning so you would expect that I spend a lot of time giving out birth control. I do give it out, but there are plenty of women who don’t want it and they are “okay with it if I have another one.” Most of them are on food stamps and have little to no income with one or more children already. They don’t even care enough about the quality of life of their current children to make responsible choices. Also, “my new boyfriend wants one” is a crowd pleaser. This is not a stereotype or myth – this is a big part of my day. And there is nothing worse than someone who has three children and “can’t remember to take a pill everyday.” If I had three kids then that would be the first priority of my day. However, I would also have to house, feed, clothe and care for my three kids.
3. People constantly abuse the system and take advantage of our charitable nature as a country. I doubt one person who reads this blog agrees with cutting Hospice services. That would be the last thing that I would cut. But here’s the rub: if anyone tries to cut any program that would make children go hungry etc then everyone would be upset with that, too. So basically, these irresponsible people have us all by the “short hairs.” We can’t let children suffer so we have to support them, too. The alternatives are to remove the children from the homes of people who won’t take care of them. I say won’t because there were many choices that person made to get that baby home (see #1).
The worst part is that because we spend so much money on people who choose to be poor and choose to raise children in those circumstances that we end up cutting the programs that really deserve our money. Hospice care, mental health care, care for the elderly, cuts in fees to doctors, hospitals, hiring and salary freezes and so on……These “parents”, for lack of a better word, never see any cuts. We do not have enough money to keep this up. It is just not there and it is not fair to those of us who work and are middle class to not have the ability to save or enjoy a good quality of life because we need to pay “just a little more” or our “fair share.” I’m a really great health care provider and I do a lot to help my patients, but I will have to go back to private or hospital practice because I cannot sacrifice my financial future and quality of life to keep spinning my wheels with no raise for inflation or merit. I am required to maintain many certifications and levels of education, but nobody wants to pay for that, either.
Until we make a real effort to break the cycle of poverty and government dependence then the people and programs that really need our money and help will continue to see cuts. The people who take advantage of the system make it very hard for the people who really need the help to get it. People who are dying don’t (usually) make that choice, people with disabilities (real ones) don’t make that choice, people with mental health issues would give anything to not bear that cross and they deserve our help. We owe it to people as they get older to help and support them through their golden and elder years. We do not owe people who CHOOSE to stay in poverty and having children when you cannot afford to take care of yourself is the choice to stay in poverty.
Until we hold people accountable for their own choices then we will see cuts in programs that should never be cut because the middle class can’t give “just a little bit more.” We can barely keep our own heads above water at this point.
Also, since I saw the Affordable Health Care Act mentioned, Obamacare does hurt the middle class. As a single person in my thirties with no children (and I want children, but will wait until I can afford them) I have been able to stay fully insured with self insurance for $200 a month with an $1800 deductible (I have employer insurance now, but not for 6 years prior). If I have to obtain health care coverage through these exchanges of the ACA then I will pay $375 in cash (no supplement or credit) for a bronze plan that includes a $4250 deductible. So for good insurance I would imagine it would be at least $450-$500 a month. How does that not hurt me? Not to mention that even after we pay for people to get insurance then we have to pay for their co-payments, too. Seriously, at what point is it enough? How can it possibly be fair for me to pay more for insurance for just myself and then, after that, to pay more in a deductible and co-pays then someone with my same salary who has a family of four. This cost-sharing means I pay more because you chose to have kids at the same salary where I chose to wait because it was unaffordable. So I am penalized for being responsible. Where in the constitution is little gem written? And if you think for a minute that many of these people will prioritize their spending to pay anything towards a premium or co-pay then you just don’t understand the cultural problems we face in this country. My ACA numbers were obtained through the ACA calculator provided by the Kaiser Foundation.
I apologize for being long winded, but my main point is that until we change the culture of poverty in this country then we will forever be over budget, over spending and cutting programs that are devastating to our collective souls to cut.
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
7:22 pm
josef
But not an apostate!
I will allow, though, I do not speak for The One True Hot Sauce.
Because there are many True Hot Sauces in the Universe.
josef
January 23rd, 2013
7:22 pm
OSCAR
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
7:23 pm
“dog name another”
Dogs have been known to mass kill domestic sheep or chickens. Wolves will kill far more than they can eat under the right circumstances. Chickens will kill each other. That’s enough to go with.
bookman parrot
January 23rd, 2013
7:23 pm
i have to agree (arghh)… don’t cut from those in their last days… but cut from the perpetual lazy class that could work,.. but choose to stay on the gov’t dole… AND … make those whose job it is to make kids so they can get a gov’t check and their “partner” in baby making pay for their kids, not gov’t… that makes more sense
indigo
January 23rd, 2013
7:24 pm
Plain Truth – 7:04
The Police kill. Is that murder?
Soldiers kill in war. Is that murder?
Civilians are allowed to kill in self defence. Is that murder?
If Jesus really is the Son of God, don’t you think he would have banned abortion if it is murder?
He did not because he knew women spontaneously abort(miscarriage) every day. If he had condemned abortion, people would ask why God allows spontaneous abortions if it is murder.
You need to think before posting here.
Jay
January 23rd, 2013
7:26 pm
And Jaime, thanks for posting that. It’s good stuff.
Uh Huh....No one can rate a burden's weight until it has been on his back
January 23rd, 2013
7:29 pm
@bookman parrot
January 23rd, 2013
7:23 pm
i have to agree (arghh)… don’t cut from those in their last days… but cut from the perpetual lazy class that could work,.. but choose to stay on the gov’t dole… AND … make those whose job it is to make kids so they can get a gov’t check and their “partner” in baby making pay for their kids, not gov’t… that makes more sense
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I agree.
Cut from “all” people who are irresponsible.
Lets not target a certain group because as we all know
irresponsibility DOES NOT come in one COLOR.
I have seen a RAINBOW of IRRESPONSIBILITY.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:33 pm
wolverine fans arise.
josef
January 23rd, 2013
7:34 pm
ROCKERBABE
Comme vous êtes telle experte sur les choses louisiannaises, j’attends votre analyse érudite avec impatience souffle arrêté!
PAUL
There is but one True Hot Sauce and its name is Tabasco and McIlhenny is its profit…
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
7:35 pm
“wolverine fans arise.”
They’re amazing creatures
Joe Hussein Mama
January 23rd, 2013
7:36 pm
Jaime — “I apologize for being long winded, but my main point is that until we change the culture of poverty in this country then we will forever be over budget, over spending and cutting programs that are devastating to our collective souls to cut.”
I appreciate your post and most of the sentiments expressed within it, but I do want to take issue with one phrase you used: “people who choose to be poor”
I don’t believe that anyone makes an affirmative choice to be poor. People make bad choices that are likely to *result* in them becoming, being or *staying* poor, but I don’t believe for a moment that anyone makes a specific and affirmative choice to be poor.
Uh Huh....No one can rate a burden's weight until it has been on his back
January 23rd, 2013
7:36 pm
@Jaime
January 23rd, 2013
7:22 pm
3. People constantly abuse the system and take advantage of our charitable nature as a country.
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I agree.
However, irresponsibilty comes in all races and incomes.
One example that comes to mind is Mitt Romney who took advantage
of the tax laws and the “charitable nature as a country.”
Do you agree?
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:36 pm
we are more like animals than we would like to admit. Or, is it the other way around.
josef
January 23rd, 2013
7:38 pm
BIG DADDY
Given that post from Jaime, how bound am I by my New Year’s Resolution?
Hey Libs, how is your paychecks looking now
January 23rd, 2013
7:39 pm
Beyonce is a fake like her performance and the coming 4 years!!!!!
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
7:40 pm
The kooks are on the ball. It’s never too early to get started on a smear campaign for 2016 against possible gop candidates.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:41 pm
Joe there are some people who choose to be poor. they choose to not work. My neighbor’s niee is one. lives on food stamps and other govt programs by choice. she is not the only one – as john lennon said
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:42 pm
Beyonce was singing. no doubt about that. who could hear her is another question.
barking frog
January 23rd, 2013
7:43 pm
To denigrate women for having babies but wish to deny them abortions is
highly hypocritical. To cry about not being able to fund SS and Medicare due
to a lack of taxpayers and wishing to stop procreation and immigration is silly.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:44 pm
doom don’t need a smear campaige. just give them exposure and they self destrct. two of them did that today
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 23rd, 2013
7:45 pm
Jaime
I think you are getting burned out and need to move to La. and seek another line of work.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 23rd, 2013
7:45 pm
Oscar — “Joe there are some people who choose to be poor. they choose to not work. My neighbor’s niee is one. lives on food stamps and other govt programs by choice. she is not the only one – as john lennon said”
No disrespect intended, but I think I covered that.
People make bad choices that are likely to *result* in them becoming, being or *staying* poor, but I don’t believe for a moment that anyone makes a specific and affirmative choice to be poor.
IMO, it takes a lot of bad choices, bad luck or a pile of both to become poor. Any one single decision won’t do it.
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
7:45 pm
They say he never shows up because he is running for President but Jaime is right.
They have no clue about what their departments actually do and they don’t care.
His tax reform thingie will fail too.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2013
7:45 pm
Uh huh,
So how is taking advantageous of legitimate tax writeoffs an abuse of the system?
indigo
January 23rd, 2013
7:46 pm
doom – 7:40
The Republicans started their smear campaign against Hillary today.
Uh Huh....No one can rate a burden's weight until it has been on his back
January 23rd, 2013
7:46 pm
@Joe Hussein Mama
January 23rd, 2013
7:36 pm
I appreciate your post and most of the sentiments expressed within it, but I do want to take issue with one phrase you used: “people who choose to be poor”
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“people who choose to be poor”?
That is the sentiment that people have of other people that do not look
like them.
I know plenty of “poor” people and NONE…NONE of them choose to be
poor.
BTW, they are all ELDERLY (70s, 80s 90s) black, white, hispanic.
I have a neighbor who lives on a little over $700 a month.
She did not wake up one day and say……hmmmmmm
“I want to be poor.”
It just happened that way.
Be careful how you CLASSIFY people and their INTENTIONS.
IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANY OF US.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:46 pm
joe = sorry, didnt read your entire post.
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
7:50 pm
josef
I’ve sent your name onto Dial-a-Hotsauce Prayer and two young men in white shirts and ties’ll show up at your doorstep to enlighten you on the Real Heavenly Hotsauces (it’s plural because the Good Book says “In my Father’s house are many hot sauces. I go there now to prepare them for you.” It also says “and I saw a lone Tabasco on a Pale Horse, spreading disease, death and an inferior sauce. And I saw an eternal pit of fire and damnation and I cast him down to be consumed.”
And the followers of the True Hot Sauces did rejoice.
Oscar
January 23rd, 2013
7:50 pm
doom 7:45 nothing wrong with that. bribing er lobbying congre to pass loopholes er deductions or credits for self benefit is an abuse of th system
JamVet
January 23rd, 2013
7:51 pm
For the fake (LOL!) blogger at 7:39,
My “paycheck” is rocking thanks to the Obama Recovery from the Bush Depression. Business is better than ever. Thanks for asking, neer-do-well!
barking frog
January 23rd, 2013
7:52 pm
Paul, josef
Is wasabi a true hot sauce ?
Uh Huh....No one can rate a burden's weight until it has been on his back
January 23rd, 2013
7:52 pm
@Hey Libs, how is your paychecks looking now
January 23rd, 2013
7:39 pm
Beyonce is a fake like her performance and the coming 4 years!!!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I BET you think HONEY BOO BOO, her sisters and her mother JUNE are hot.
“You better redneckonize.”
Jack ®
January 23rd, 2013
7:53 pm
Final care is not blog material. Especially if you’ve tended to someone during their last hours.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 23rd, 2013
7:53 pm
Oscar — “joe = sorry, didnt read your entire post.”
No worries, pal.
I’ve got a dirtbag kid brother, so I know about the kind of relatives you’re describing.
josef
January 23rd, 2013
7:55 pm
PAUL
@ 7:50
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolverines….
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
7:59 pm
Cayenne red pepper and Tabasco are the favorites down here.
I get major heart burn that feels like a heart attack eating that crap.
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
8:00 pm
barking frog
It’s hot, but even when mixed with soy, it’s not in the sense of the hot pepper sauces we’re trying to convert each other to.
But… if you ever come across real, pure wasabi, not the green stuff we see over here… watch out! It’ll set you on fire.
TBS
January 23rd, 2013
8:02 pm
get
How bad was the backlash against Jindal?
Recon 0311 2533
January 23rd, 2013
8:03 pm
Well you had to know that the original topic wouldn’t last past the first few thread pages as this one evidently hasn’t. Clinton, certainly kept her cool for the most part but got a bit bloodied by a few Senators and a few more House Congressional Representatives. She didn’t come out with a win but neither did the Republicans. The Republicans were victims of the congressional political propensity to bloviate, which is an affliction on both sides of the aisle. All Clinton needed to do was bloviate back and come out without any serious wounds.
josef
January 23rd, 2013
8:04 pm
FROG
It’s pagan!
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
8:04 pm
josef
I have sent you my prophet and Honey badger is his name. He will vanquish the wolverine and set you free with my gifts of Franks. And Tapatio. Anything but Tabasco!
getalife
Too vinegary for me. Part of my heritage is Swedish, so I dump vinegar (and I’ve a number of vinegars) on cabbage, potatoes, carrots, spinach and on and on.
But vinegar as the predominant flavor in pepper sauce is just plain wrong.
JamVet
January 23rd, 2013
8:05 pm
You boys eat your blistering chili peppers.
BTW, there is only one thing that really works effectively if you go overboard.
Milk.
http://www.wikihow.com/Cool-Burns-from-Chili-Peppers
Mick
January 23rd, 2013
8:06 pm
jay
Jindal is a club member of “it’s the republican effin way” view of gov’t. Tax breaks for corporates trumps human death, education, police, and emergency services. Still, they wonder why their brand is dropping like a two ton anchor into the marannis trench…
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
8:06 pm
Both,
Not too bad because the cons down here blame everything on the President.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 23rd, 2013
8:08 pm
Paul
I have had real wasabi once. I thought dying might have been easier
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
8:08 pm
Paul,
The honey badger is trying out for the pros.
Do you eat those little red Mexican peppers?
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
8:10 pm
JamVet
As I found out the hard way, when my brother returned from a year-long round-the-world trip, took me to a darkly-lit Asian restaurant, ordered an appetizer and began eating these things that looked like cinders, told me they were good and…
I forget how many glasses of water I downed before they got the milk to me.
josef
January 23rd, 2013
8:11 pm
PAUL
Funny you should mention Honeybadger…starring in a special tonight on one of our PBS stations, “Warriors of the Kalahari!” Fixin’ to go tune in now!
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
8:13 pm
Common Sense
Unforgettable, isn’t it?
getalife
Nah. I like heat that complements flavors, not heat for its own sake that masks the flavors.
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
8:13 pm
del,
The point of the hearing is to stop it from happening again.
It was addressed and fixed.
JamVet
January 23rd, 2013
8:13 pm
Defund PBS! It takes up a whopping one one hundredth of one percent of the federal budget!!
We need more filth and depravity on the airwaves, not quality programming!
Recon 0311 2533
January 23rd, 2013
8:13 pm
MO, it takes a lot of bad choices, bad luck or a pile of both to become poor. Any one single decision won’t do it.
JHM, it’s more a matter of acceptance not choice. I can agree with you that people don’t choose to be poor but they can accept being poor. The government can either create an environment that discourages acceptance of being poor or it can foster an environment that makes acceptance the easier choice. Unfortunately, our current administration is fostering the latter.
Paul
January 23rd, 2013
8:14 pm
josef
Enjoy!
I’m out, too.
Pleasant evening, all -
Josef
January 23rd, 2013
8:28 pm
Oops. Not PBS.. Smithsonian Channel..that honey Badger is one badass mofo !!
Chris Salzmann
January 23rd, 2013
8:29 pm
Mahatma Gandhi once said, “A nation’s greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members”.
Wow! Why not just shoot them and get it over with??? This coming from a “Christian” conservative? Another reason I hate that phrase. Talk about an oxymoron.
Tall
January 23rd, 2013
8:30 pm
..In Louisiana, Jindal slashes aid to the dying..
Really Bookman…do you believe that? You despicable, shameless, propagandist for the Progressive Front. Enjoy your last option at employment.
Tall
January 23rd, 2013
8:32 pm
How Ironic? “Chris Salzmann”….Chris says………
This blog is so foul….
Jay
January 23rd, 2013
8:38 pm
Apparently, Tall, you have trouble handling the truth.
Tell me: How would YOU prefer to describe the policy?
td
January 23rd, 2013
8:39 pm
Chris Salzmann
January 23rd, 2013
8:29 pm
Mahatma Gandhi once said, “A nation’s greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members”.
And when we enable our weakest member to remain dependent on government for their day to day subsistence by making excuses for their behavior and not hold them responsible and accountable for the choices they make, then what does that say about our society?
Wilbur
January 23rd, 2013
8:39 pm
My hypocritical scaring of the old people with sensational half truths. Medicare and medicaid as presently constituted cannot continue long without changes. Either we face truly massive tax increases or spending will have to be adjusted. This is not a republican fact or a democrat fact. It’s just an inconvenient truth. Obama is going to try to double down and protect this program and other spending even if it means their ultimate destruction. For some reason, he is unwilling to face reality and thinks he can avoid it. Half witted fear mongering like Jay’s is just unhelpful.
Jay
January 23rd, 2013
8:40 pm
By the way, I should stress that Jindal is using grant money from the hated federal government to continue the program.
td
January 23rd, 2013
8:41 pm
Jay
January 23rd, 2013
8:38 pm
Apparently, Tall, you have trouble handling the truth.
Tell me: How would YOU prefer to describe the policy?
Why is it the governments responsibility to give comfort to the dying? Where is the responsibility fo the family or the individual to make sure they have the ability to take care of themselves?
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
8:45 pm
“And when we enable our weakest member to remain dependent on government for their day to day subsistence by making excuses for their behavior and not hold them responsible and accountable for the choices they make, then what does that say about our society?”
that we prefer not to watch them starving and dying in the streets, begging for a pittance to get some small morsel to eat. We are, in other words, a more caring society than you appear to find comfortable.
Doggone/GA
January 23rd, 2013
8:47 pm
“Why is it the governments responsibility to give comfort to the dying?”
Who said it was?
getalife
January 23rd, 2013
8:47 pm
I guess that makes jindal a moocher.