The GOP’s unconvincing embrace of ‘compromise’

Apparently, Washington Republicans didn’t much like the president’s speech.

“The words were code for a progressive agenda. I’m hoping that the president will recognize that compromise should have been the words for today, and they clearly weren’t,” Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), told Politico.

Wait: “Compromise”?

Did Mr. Fast and Furious actually say “compromise”? Somewhere, there’s an irony alarm going off.

U.S. Rep. Steve Stockman, Republican of Texas, had a similar response, complaining that “Instead of ‘hope and change,’ Obama has offered only hopelessness, bitter personal attacks and politics as usual.”

And yes, that is the same Steve Stockman currently trying to gin up a campaign to impeach the president.

“President Obama needs to put an end to the extremism that led to record deficits and millions of unemployed Americans, and instead work with Republicans on bipartisan solutions to the serious problems facing our nation,” according to Rep. Steve Scalise, the new chairman of the Republican Study Committee.

The RSC, you may recall, is an organization created for House Republicans who believe that the GOP caucus in general is too liberal and accommodating.

extreme

Personally, I don’t believe that anything Obama might have said yesterday, short of “I resign,” could alter the suspicious atmosphere in Washington. In recent years, Republicans may have lacked the power and votes to set the agenda in our nation’s capital, but they have been extremely successful in setting the tone that they now condemn.

In fact, their latest rhetoric suggests that maybe, just maybe, they may be coming to understand the political damage they have inflicted on themselves by such behavior.  For example, it’s nice to see that they can now utter the word “compromise” in public without melting down like the Wicked Witch of the West.

That’s progress, of a sort.

– Jay Bookman

279 comments Add your comment

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2013
8:44 am

“It’s nice to see that they can now utter the word “compromise” in public without melting down like the Wicked Witch of the West.

That’s progress, of a sort.”

Not if they are still defining “compromise” as “my way, or the highway”

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

January 22nd, 2013
8:46 am

What does Grover say?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 22nd, 2013
8:47 am

Well technically she was dissolving. Melting requires heat. Dissolving water. :D

Simple Truths

January 22nd, 2013
8:47 am

It was good to read that Jay had one day of positive posts celebrating the life and teachings of MLK. Alas, he is back to his attack on the GOP.

Fly-On-The-Wall

January 22nd, 2013
8:48 am

Doggone – I agree. The Republicans still seem to utter that word with distain.

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2013
8:48 am

“Alas, he is back to his attack on the GOP.”

but they make it so EASY! I’m sure it’s hard to resist

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
8:49 am

Even if all Obama accomplished was putting the entire far right on the defensive, it is a good day.

Now they have to DEFEND themselves, instead of fighting straw men and being on offense all the time.

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
8:50 am

Personally, I don’t believe that anything Obama might have said yesterday, short of “I resign,” could alter the suspicious atmosphere in Washington.

True that

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
8:50 am

Alas, he is back to his attack on the GOP

“WHIIIINNNNE! Stop attacking me for my beliefs!”

WIMPS!

Fly-On-The-Wall

January 22nd, 2013
8:50 am

Simple – as Jay should because the Republicans made the recovery slower and much worse for many people just so they could push an ideological agenda that helped no one.

Steve-USA (I don't have all the answer's, I don't even know all the questions)

January 22nd, 2013
8:51 am

I didn’t vote for Obama but I never remember an Inauguration day filled with so many petty complaints. President Obama won the election fair and square and this is usually considered a day of celebration for the country.

All the criticism seemed classless and not very gracious by the losing side. At least wait one day before you start the verbal assaults.

JMHO

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2013
8:52 am

“All the criticism seemed classless”

not “seemed”…WAS

stands for decibels

January 22nd, 2013
8:54 am

their latest rhetoric suggests that maybe, just maybe, they may be coming to understand the political damage they have inflicted on themselves by such behavior.

I’m willing to hope that’s true.

Anyway, all eyes should be on Harry Reid today–I know blogspot is ready when I am, but I hope Jay goes there, later.

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
8:55 am

And yes, I am saying we can keep blaming Bush for that. It’s the same as blaming rats for the Black Plague. Just because you’re sick of hearing historians say it, doesn’t mean it stopped being true.

Mick

January 22nd, 2013
8:55 am

Let the games begin, meet the new congress same as the old congress. Will harry reid have the cajones to modify the filibuster? Will republicans obstruct, then attempt to blame obama for it? Has the radical kenyan marxist transformed the united states into another euro satellite? Stay tuned…

godless heathen

January 22nd, 2013
8:56 am

The way I read the above graph the score is 52 to 38. The diff being 14%. Only 7% will have to change their opinion to make it 50/50. My prediction is that there will be a shift of at least that much when immigration and gun control are debated this year – but that’s just a guess.

indigo

January 22nd, 2013
8:56 am

I believe the Republicans were utterly convinced Romney would win.

His loss is something they still haven’t gotten over.

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
8:58 am

In other news, Republicans (the kind *I* like, HI FRED and TBG!) once knew that tax cuts had a cost and increased the deficit:

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/22/when-tax-cuts-were-a-tough-sell/

DannyX

January 22nd, 2013
8:58 am

Republicans have moved on.

Republicans have gone from trying their hardest to make sure Obama is a one term President to inventing ways to impeach him.

Progress.

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
8:59 am

Mick: Has the radical kenyan marxist transformed the united states into another euro satellite?

“Could John Boehner’s DOOMSDAY machine be stopped in time? Who fathered Nancy Pelosi’s love child?”

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Granny Godzilla

January 22nd, 2013
9:01 am

What a bunch of maroons!

It was not CODE for a liberal progressive agenda.

It WAS a plain understandable American English liberal progressive agenda.

Elections have consequences.

It’s wonderful.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 22nd, 2013
9:02 am

All of this could have been avoided if Obama had just invited Oirly Taitz to be on stage with him. :D

thuggishNews

January 22nd, 2013
9:03 am

republicons and compromise don’t belong in the same statement. to them the word means i promise to come. that’s it.

Union

January 22nd, 2013
9:04 am

Jay

January 22nd, 2013
9:04 am

“The way I read the above graph the score is 52 to 38.”

It’s actually 53 to 37. But the telling statistic is that two years ago, in September of 2010, only 36 percent of Americans viewed the GOP as too extreme. The trend is very much in the wrong direction.

Brad Steel

January 22nd, 2013
9:05 am

….but they (Republicans) have been extremely successful in setting the tone that they now condemn.

Indeed, the Republicans have been far more skilled and strategic at setting the political gone. Unfortunately, the tone has been antagonistic, obstructionist and toxic to running the country.

That is why Republicans keep losing elections. Good luck with that.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

January 22nd, 2013
9:05 am

Not sure this particular crew is ready for any counter discussions about the talking points from inaugural speech but here is a good alternative view:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/michael-gerson-obama-shoves-idealism-into-its-grave/2013/01/21/3c8847bc-6412-11e2-85f5-a8a9228e55e7_story.html

Joe Hussein Mama

January 22nd, 2013
9:08 am

This is a great century for Americans. Not only do we have our first African-American President, we also have our first Orange-American Speaker of the House.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

January 22nd, 2013
9:09 am

Jay

January 22nd, 2013
9:04 am

Calling you out as master of the obvious today.

Do you have any similar poll results for the beginning of Bush’s second term? Not sure what it would say but it seems that the most recent polls in terms of timing are the norm as opposed the the exception…

I may be wrong but just my opinion. Logic would suggest that any elected official who recently won popular vote generally would have most of the populace more confident in the winners politics..

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

January 22nd, 2013
9:09 am

Union,
Your mother raised you well…

barking frog

January 22nd, 2013
9:10 am

Every day the Republicans will have to eat the crow that they cooked themselves.
It might taste better with a good chianti…….

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

January 22nd, 2013
9:10 am

Joe Hussein Mama

January 22nd, 2013
9:08 am

Couldn’t agree more. However, I submit to you that Obama is more beige than black..ergo, he is the first beige president wouldn’t you agree?

Granny Godzilla

January 22nd, 2013
9:10 am

Michael Gerson and the new “compromising” GOP….

You snooze, you lose.

Day late and a dollar short.

Move your meat, lose your seat.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 22nd, 2013
9:12 am

S. Ray — “Couldn’t agree more. However, I submit to you that Obama is more beige than black..ergo, he is the first beige president wouldn’t you agree?”

I was kinda waiting for our first Hispanic-American or Italian-American President before using the “B” word. :D

Dharma Bum

January 22nd, 2013
9:12 am

Expect more of the same…

Name-calling
Blaming
Snide remarks
Demonization
Denigration
5-second soundbites

…and not a single bit of leadership from either side

independent thinker

January 22nd, 2013
9:12 am

How dare Obama define the words in the Declaration of Independence granting the right of the pursuit of happiness to mean a right to medical care along with the admonition that the 47% the GOP despises are not takers! The nerve of that Kenyan Marxist and then to mention in the same speech personal responsibility-what kind of nonsense is that? And to state that the rich are getting richer while the middle class is getting poorer-what the heck does that have to do with the pursuit of happiness????. We have a god given right to be vulture capitalists shipping jobs overseas for profit with minimal taxation and to be gun traffickers for profit- Isn’t that the meaning of the pursuit of happiness? Isn’t that what the American Revolution was for?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

January 22nd, 2013
9:13 am

JAY

My bad as your column suggests “extreme” views as opposed to which is more popular. Same question applies, are any similar polls available for prior presidents? Of could this simply be a partisan poll where the answer was known well before the polling?

Regardless, you posit today is rather thin compared to the norm you have established…IMO

godless heathen

January 22nd, 2013
9:13 am

The trend is very much in the wrong direction.

Did you see the Falcon’s game Sunday?

joe

January 22nd, 2013
9:13 am

Yea, that’s the ticket…compromise. Something the BHO and the rest of his cronies know nothing about. When is the last time they put forth anything that shows any spending cuts…at all? How about chopping off 15% across the board…no haggling, no nothing.

If you Dems don’t wise up and start electing candidates who actually have the stones to cut, you won’t have a government that can actually pay out any entitlements. They don’t have a blank check to keep writing out to you. It’s not a never ending supply. There is an end. Do you want to be living here with that end comes?

This is a fixable problem, but not if you moochers and leaches keep lining up and signing up for monthly checks from the gobernment. Country first ya’ll.

ATL Tiger

January 22nd, 2013
9:14 am

The next 4 years will look much like the last 2

RB from Gwinnett

January 22nd, 2013
9:14 am

Ah, yes, another Bookman blog about how the R’s need to give the D’s whatever socialist crap they’re asking for this week. Hey, I’ll take all of your posession, libs, what are you willing to compromise?

Just toss the fat kids another cookie and they’ll shut up for a day.

And then they’ll start whining about something else they want thats “just so unfair…” Like a bunch of friggin’ children.

jconservative

January 22nd, 2013
9:15 am

Members of Congress are the last ones who need to complain about the deficit. The last two years the 112th Congress gave us two straight trillion dollar deficits.

We await the wisdom of the 113th Congress.

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
9:15 am

Stevie Ray: Not sure this particular crew is ready for any counter discussions about the talking points from inaugural speech but here is a good alternative view:

That article misses a key point: The Elected Republicans (Hi Fred and TBG!) were the actual problem here, focusing on NO rather than on an alternative policy agenda, and with absolutely zero effort to reach across the aisle, laying all of the responsibility for reaching to be done by Democrats. Which they did. Over and over again. As the Elected Republicans and strategists had planned. They had hoped all of their saying no to everything (even if it’s their own idea) would go unnoticed and that their rhetoric about how Obama promised bipartisanship was all Obama’s fault, when they were the ones creating the real divide.

Let's see...

January 22nd, 2013
9:15 am

…how much compromise is there in the statement by Obuma that “taxes on the wealthy must be increased before we talk about spending cuts”; or, “taxes on the wealthy must be increased and I will NOT consider spending cuts”. Finally, BEFORE the election Obuma said that he would entertain both taxes AND spending cuts; after the election he said he would only consider tax increases as a way to “attempt” to balance the budget

Seems like this issue cuts both ways…and, as usual, Jay is only presenting one side…

the cat

January 22nd, 2013
9:16 am

It was very telling that Boner wanted to be anywhere but at the inaguration yesterday. The look on the speaker’s face was reprehensible.

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
9:16 am

…and not a single bit of leadership from either side

Sorry, but Obama has showed leadership time and again. Boehner’s attempts have mostly failed. It’s the rabble rousers who are the problem.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 22nd, 2013
9:17 am

I. Thinker — “How dare Obama define the words in the Declaration of Independence granting the right of the pursuit of happiness”

No rights are granted via the Declaration of Independence; it is not a legal document and has no force of law.

The Constitution makes it quite clear that individual rights are *asserted* by the people, and that we *permit* the Federal and State governments to use the powers delegated to them in our name.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

January 22nd, 2013
9:18 am

independent thinker

January 22nd, 2013
9:12 am

This whole “vulture capitialist” and shipping jobs overseas banter is getting old. Both have been around for years, including some of liberals favorite investments such as Apple…I know vulture capitalists and if you are incinuating Romney represents one then you may want to take a hard look at the definition perhaps review fact check.

Ben Franklin said that the document guarantees the “pursuit of happiness”…obtaining happiness is up to each individual…

The same definition can be used in many ways. That being said, is Romney a bigger dope that the incumbent? By a wide stretch..

St Simons - aboriginal Bootakook 2014

January 22nd, 2013
9:18 am

you see so many broken irony meters…

trickle downers free mahhket opportuniteh! win-ning!

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
9:20 am

independent thinker @ 9:12a: :D

Yes, Obama’s speech was full of words that conservatives will be very pissed at, because it is all true.

Freedom means being able to collect the Social Security you paid into all your life, and doesn’t make you a taker
Freedom means that you are treated equally under the law, and that you have an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, something the conservatives oppose, while claiming they “guarantee” it.
Freedom means the ability to live your daily life without having to be prepared to be in a war zone any minute of your life.
Freedom means the ability to get an education if you want one
Freedom means the ability to live your life healthy and happy even if you don’t want to get a high level education and just want to work at a grocery store.

THAT is what freedom means.

RB from Gwinnett

January 22nd, 2013
9:21 am

Joe, “If you Dems don’t wise up and start electing candidates who actually have the stones to cut, you won’t have a government that can actually pay out any entitlements”

You’d better start understanding pretty quickly that the liberal way is to continue on the exact path they’re on while always promising their voting base they’re going to make somebody else pay for it all. There is no plan to cut any spending and there won’t be any time soon because they don’t want any of their voters to figure out they’re being lied to in a massive ponzi scheme that keeps the voters enslaved while it keeps them in office.

And it keeps the Phil Mickelson’s of the world looking for another place to call home. Question, libs, how many of you tools does it take to replace the $1.8MM in revenue lost to the CA government if Phil takes his ball and goes home?

Granny Godzilla

January 22nd, 2013
9:21 am

joe

January 22nd, 2013
9:13 am

Yea, that’s the ticket…compromise. Something the BHO and the rest of his cronies know nothing about
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Proceed.

There’s your sign.

Not meant to be a factual statement.

etc.

Thomas Heyward Jr

January 22nd, 2013
9:22 am

For decency’s sake………the Republican party SHOULD just meld into the banker-wh*re, corrupt, war-mongering , violent, racist, torturing, civil-rights violating, drug war pimping whistle-blower procescuting ,Kenysian spending moronic, illegal war, and war-criming Democrat Party………….Most Republicans would feel right at home and this would possibly enable a legitimate opposition party to form.
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C’mon Romney Republicans….metro-man-up ..and …admit it.
Ya’ll are sleazy progressives to the core…too.
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lol

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

January 22nd, 2013
9:22 am

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
9:16 am

The idea that Obama has exhibited true leadership is debatable. He has been at least as divisive as his competition as folks fail to remember his setting the tone with his “we won” garbage before first inauguration when presented with GOP budget suggestions…While the GOP has major structural issues prior, BO set the original tone which arguably created the foundation for a no-trust environment…this is documented in may sources including Woodwards latest..

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2013
9:23 am

Heard just a tidbit on the radio yesterday. Didn’t even hear enough to catch the name of the politico…but the reporter asked someone how long he thought the spirit of bi-partisanship would last…and he looked at his watch!

Granny Godzilla

January 22nd, 2013
9:24 am

The concern about Phil Mickelson is so touching isn’t it?

RB from Gwinnett

January 22nd, 2013
9:24 am

Adam, “Freedom means that you are treated equally under the law, and that you have an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, something the conservatives oppose, while claiming they “guarantee” it.”

Thats just an outright lie, Adam. Pathetic.

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
9:25 am

RB: You’d better start understanding pretty quickly that the liberal way is to continue on the exact path they’re on while always promising their voting base they’re going to make somebody else pay for it all.

Not Intended to Be a Factual Statement

BullDogMike

January 22nd, 2013
9:25 am

Just the first day of another 4 years of total disaster .

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2013
9:26 am

Let’s see…

Yeah nice ruminations, but just what the hell political are you actually describing?

Certainly not the one in which the compromiser in chief Obama and his here let me do 5 times the cuts of revenue/tax increases, here I’ll even throw in some cuts to Medicare and Social Security oh please let me please let me! and ALL YOU HAVE TO DO is give me a tiny fig leaf of upper marginal rate increases, just ONE TINY FIG LEAF oh come on, come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn I’m just DYING to start hacking away at those unaffordable social programs.

See the problem with your “perspective”?

East Lake Ira

January 22nd, 2013
9:26 am

The GOP is stuck and Obama is not going to help them out in any way.

Boo friggin’ hoo.

You cons made your bed, now deal with it. Everybody hates you. Get used to it.

Lynnie Gal

January 22nd, 2013
9:27 am

I’ve heard nothing but negativity from snarling Republicans on CSPAN and websites about how meaningless and unmemorable Obama’s speech was yesterday. Ha! They obviously fail to understand principles and morals and decency: the ideas that make us Americans. They are concerned only with trying to convince their weak-minded followers that greed is patriotic. They fail to rise to the level of understanding even the simplest philosophical ideas. Perhaps three decades of educational failure has produced the modern Republican party. I don’t know. Most people should be capable of comprehending at least this part of Obama’s speech: “Let each of us now embrace, with solemn duty and awesome joy, what is our lasting birthright. With common effort and common purpose, with passion and dedication, let us answer the call of history, and carry into an uncertain future that precious light of freedom.”

Joe Hussein Mama

January 22nd, 2013
9:27 am

RB — “Question, libs, how many of you tools does it take to replace the $1.8MM in revenue lost to the CA government if Phil takes his ball and goes home?”

People move all the time for any number of reasons. Are you suggesting that California should adjust its governance simply to please one person?

Redcoat

January 22nd, 2013
9:27 am

Democrats/Liberals have their definitions and you better like them, because they will not compromise.

Any Democrats/Liberals care to define compromise? I asked first!

PS: Obama wants you to stop the name calling…..you got your orders…..hahaha (we all know that was not meant for you all….right?)

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2013
9:27 am

Let’s see…

Should read: What the hell political world are you actually describing?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

January 22nd, 2013
9:27 am

ADAM

Seems to me the biggest evidence of leadership is overcoming divides between factions. Just as he mentioned in speech. His big strategy since the beginning is blaming on his predecessor.

Aside from is, suspect HC bill passed by DEM majority held congress via some spiffy legislative method, all his alledged successes are in the form of small ball..like his big victory gaining the holy grail of DEM objective, making the rich pay more…small ball.

Thulsa Doom

January 22nd, 2013
9:27 am

“Did Mr. Fast and Furious actually say “compromise”?”

Hmm. So instead of wanting to get to the bottom of why the hell our govt was selling assault rifles to Mexican drug cartels you would rather mock the guy who wants to get to the bottom of it. Priceless! In light of the Sandy Hook massacre and all the talk about the gun issue I wonder just how many people have died from those assault rifles that the Obama administration sold to dangerous criminals.

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2013
9:28 am

“You’d better start understanding pretty quickly that the liberal way is to continue on the exact path they’re on while always promising their voting base they’re going to make somebody else pay for it all.”

“Those taxes had been levied according to ability to pay. But the succeeding Republican Administration did not believe in that principle. There was a reason. They had political debts to those who sat at their elbows. To pay those political debts, they reduced the taxes of their friends in the higher brackets and left the national debt to be paid by later generations. Because they evaded their obligation, because they regarded the political debt as more important than the national debt, the depression in 1929 started with a sixteen-billion-dollar handicap on us and our children” FDR 10/21/36

Thulsa Doom

January 22nd, 2013
9:30 am

“They obviously fail to understand principles and morals and decency:”

Sez the party that supports partial birth abortion.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2013
9:31 am

Oh you think Phil Mickelson is bad, look at Larry Ellison, one of the richest men in the country, and world, and a big sniveling brat who can’t be bothered to pay a measly little share of his income in tax assessments and other incidental flea bite on elephant type costs that no one would ever notice in a million years. But oh Larry Ellison notices, yessirreee. He’s a big poo bah, a JOB CREATOR! A Randian HERO. All bow to the CREATORS!

RB from Gwinnett

January 22nd, 2013
9:31 am

Adam, “Freedom means the ability to live your daily life without having to be prepared to be in a war zone any minute of your life.”

Tell it to the victims of these fine citizens. http://www.wsbradio.com/news/news/same-suspects-may-be-responsible-edgewood-carjacki/nT3y5/

Let me guess, libs, they’re just trying to feed their families after trying to find a job for 2 years and it’s George Bush’s fault.

kayaker 71

January 22nd, 2013
9:31 am

Mickelson only represents one of many who are fed up with the system. And people like Granny who want those evil rich to pay even more to support the have nots who refuse to work and support themselves says a lot about who she is. This freedom business goes both ways. Mickelson is free to live where he wants and make as much money as he pleases with being called some kind of pariah. For all you liberals out there, that’s called success….. perhaps something you wouldn’t understand.

Morality?

January 22nd, 2013
9:31 am

E X T R E M E – Anyone that doesn’t walk in lock step with Obama. C O M P R O M I S E – agree and vote 100% for Obama’s SOCIALIST social program agenda. That is what Obama calls compromise. H U M I L I T Y – never was in Obama’s vocabulary.

Thulsa Doom

January 22nd, 2013
9:32 am

“Let each of us now embrace, with solemn duty and awesome joy, what is our lasting birthright. With common effort and common purpose, with passion and dedication, let us answer the call of history, and carry into an uncertain future that precious light of freedom.”

Because a perty speech solves everything. Hopey changey!!!

middle of the road

January 22nd, 2013
9:32 am

I would like to see some REAL compromise – from BOTH sides. Yes the R’s need to compromise, but so do the D’s (and Obama). Yes he won the election, but that should not be seen as some grand mandate to implement only his ideas. R’s still control the House, so any legislation will have to at least involve them.

Medicare is in real trouble – it needs a revenue increase (READ MY LIPS – MORE TAXES) but from EVERY tax bracket. Obama would oppose this as a new tax on earners earning less than $250,000, but IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. SS needs some minor fixing to make it solvent over the long haul – not on the revenue side (IMHO) but in the expenses side. In my opinion, EVERYONE needs to contribute a little towards the federal government. Start with a minimum tax of 1% – raise it by 1% a year up to 5%.

Granny Godzilla

January 22nd, 2013
9:32 am

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
9:33 am

Stevie Ray: He has been at least as divisive as his competition as folks fail to remember his setting the tone with his “we won” garbage before first inauguration when presented with GOP budget suggestions…While the GOP has major structural issues prior, BO set the original tone which arguably created the foundation for a no-trust environment…

All this shows is that the Republican strategists who got together on inauguration day in 2009 got lucky with a part of the narrative they could draw on to help enhance their overall plot.

The fact is, Republicans had a WHOLESALE plan to derail bipartisanship, EVEN IF they got their way 100%. No such plan or even thought existed on the Democratic side, and of course the Democrat and Obama response to such a tactic was going to be a little bit peeved. I’m surprised they didn’t catch on sooner. Better late than never.

Obama showed significant leadership on the payroll tax cut, veterans tax cut for businesses, and several other initiatives.

Remember how Obama’s initial position on the payroll tax cut was an extension without a pay for, and how the Republicans balked at that? And yet, later on, in a bipartisan vote in both chambers in early 2012, they passed exactly that, along with an unemployment benefit extension. That was because of Obama’s leadership.

Remember how the Republicans were dead set on tying the debt ceiling vote to spending cuts? Obama refused. And because of Obama’s leadership, the Republicans went along with him. They followed the leader.

It’s only “debatable” because the common beltway narrative, driven by the right wing (because media is really conservative, see several studies on this) SAYS that it is “debatable.”

RB from Gwinnett

January 22nd, 2013
9:33 am

“The concern about Phil Mickelson is so touching isn’t it?”

We know, Granny, he’s one of the evil rich people who deserves every tax increase he gets, didn’t earn any of his money, and is keeping all those poor people down. Probably cheats on his taxes, too, right Granny?

As long as it’s somebody else getting the shaft, it’s all good, right Granny? It’s the liberal way!!!!

Truth-o-meter

January 22nd, 2013
9:35 am

Can’t wait until new secretary of defense starts cutting the military budget. Let’s see how serious conservatives are about cuts then. A few years ago thy went all out to save military bases in their districts from closing. You see, they want cuts as long as it is not in their backyard.

Just wait for Dick Cheney to rear his head in defense of contractors like Halliburton. Get your popcorn ready. This will be a show!

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

January 22nd, 2013
9:35 am

Lynnie Gal

January 22nd, 2013
9:27 am

If reciting overused historic writings or sayings is motivating beyond the week after, then his (retreaded and nebulous) speech will be remembered as unique.

As one writer put it:

They focus mainly on energizing the faithful rather than persuading the undecided.

This goes for both parties and BO’s rah rah speech yesterday is aptly described as such. He needs to come up with something other than old dusty oratory…what he showed yesterday was typical inaugural BS..his great speaking abilities would be better served with new material..

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
9:35 am

RB: Adam, “Freedom means that you are treated equally under the law, and that you have an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, something the conservatives oppose, while claiming they “guarantee” it.”

Thats just an outright lie, Adam. Pathetic.

Oh really?

Explain how opposing equal pay for equal work is supporting equal opportunity?
Explain how opposing measures that bring education to more poor people and neighborhoods is supporting equal opportunity?
Explain how trying to make abortions, birth control, and health services for women extremely difficult to get or impossible to get is supporting equal opportunity?

Shall I give you other examples?

mm

January 22nd, 2013
9:35 am

The cons are still blaming Obama for their dispicable behavior for the last 4 years.

And they are still blaming Obama for the destruction of the economy under their leadership.

Daedalus

January 22nd, 2013
9:36 am

Stevie Ray says:

“BO set the original tone which arguably created the foundation for a no-trust environment…”

Really? Obama has been President since 2009 and was elected to the Senate in 2004 — but the “no-trust environment” is Obama’s fault?

That’s a knee-slapper. And delusional. Did Obama invent the fiction that Iraq was somehow connected to 9/11 and that he had an arsenal full of WMDs? Did Obama have oral sex with Monica Lewinsky and then lie about it? I think the “no-trust” environment has been around for a lot longer than Obama.

Why not just go back to calling him a jihadist, nazi, Kenyan with a fake birth certificate? The moonbats are lining up on the far right, don’t be late for the bus to crazy town.

Jefferson

January 22nd, 2013
9:36 am

The GOP pounts like little babies. Babies are funny and are laughed at.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2013
9:36 am

…to continue on the exact path they’re on while always promising their voting base they’re going to make somebody else pay for it all

This is the mentality, the pack of lies, that the (mostly GOP) elite have been selling the roobers for a generation now, to fabulous success. The tax system, the corporate governance system, and the economic system at large, with all its gatekeeping functions to protect mega-wealth like patents, etc., have swung so far over in the favor of wealth that it’s not even worth discussing whether it’s progressive in the least anymore and yet the roobers (at least some of them, who populate these boards regularly, and enough of them to keep Limbaugh regurgithons rolling) still keep eating up the old canard about the needy and the bulk of average people who depend on their social programs as being the moochers, instead of the bankers and the well-connected parasites in the finance and government spheres who keep lining their pockets at taxpayer expense.

It’s quite a feat to keep that lie going like that. Or maybe not. Maybe the roobers just have that big of a psychological need to keep buying it.

Simple Truths

January 22nd, 2013
9:37 am

Adam @ 9:33: “No such plan or even thought existed on the Democratic side, and of course the Democrat and Obama response to such a tactic was going to be a little bit peeved.”

Link please?

Granny Godzilla

January 22nd, 2013
9:39 am

kayaker 71

Evil rich?

Never said it. Never thought it.

on the other hand..

do you remember when you admitted you were a racist right here on this blog?

PROCEED

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
9:39 am

Simple Truths: Adam @ 9:33: “No such plan or even thought existed on the Democratic side, and of course the Democrat and Obama response to such a tactic was going to be a little bit peeved.”

Link please?

Are you asking me to prove a negative?

Look, it’s a matter of public record that the Elected Republicans ACTUALLY conspired to say no to everything the President said. Unless you have evidence otherwise, no such event or plan was ever talked about or executed on the Democrat side.

Uh, Joe Hussein...

January 22nd, 2013
9:40 am

…I believe that 13.3% (the CA new state tax rate) of the 443mil Phil earned in endorsements is ore like $5.7mil, and not the $1.88mil you quote…and when you add the 39% of the federal tax Phil would be paying a total of $22.47mil in taxes (before deductions), which is over 50% of his earnings from the endorsements…

Tell me – do you or Granny, or even Jay, pay this much?

Thulsa Doom

January 22nd, 2013
9:40 am

The kooks are frothing at the mouth angry today. Musta been that extra cup a joe.

Granny Godzilla

January 22nd, 2013
9:40 am

RB

You still beat your dog, right?

Erwin's cat

January 22nd, 2013
9:40 am

ha “compromise”!…has either side really done any of that?

DownInAlbany

January 22nd, 2013
9:42 am

Oh good grief. Obama has mentioned a time or two that he “will not compromise…” (libs telling me, “that’s different…” in 3, 2, 1)

Neither side is willing to compromise on some core “values.” What’s new in DC?

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
9:42 am

Thulsa: The kooks are frothing at the mouth angry today.

I am pleased to see you repudiate comments from your own side. Thank you :)

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

January 22nd, 2013
9:42 am

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
9:33 am

The “facts” as usually is the case are what ever someone wants to believe. What choice did he have over the deficit? Go back and look at the proposal the GOP made to BO prior to inauguration..the feeling of bipartisanship was exceptionally high per BO’s campaign promises of compromise and working with GOP..this is well documented. The points about tax cuts is well taken but it was political suicide for either party to pass on these…it was just a matter of tradeoffs.

I have no idea what you are speaking to relative to the beltway press being overwhelming conservative. I see no evidence and the idea that people buy more of the conservative media crap than the opposite surely isn’t reflective of poll results…

IMO, when the media became news, the news became less credible by a wide stretch..

Granny Godzilla

January 22nd, 2013
9:43 am

Uh Joe….(sockpuppet)

Do I detect a whiff of wealth envy?

Adam

January 22nd, 2013
9:43 am

DownInAlbany: Oh good grief. Obama has mentioned a time or two that he “will not compromise…”

Link please?

Or did you mean “will not negotiate,” which is what he ACTUALLY said?

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2013
9:44 am

“Or did you mean “will not negotiate,” which is what he ACTUALLY said?”

Beat me to it!

Thulsa Doom

January 22nd, 2013
9:45 am

So Phil is gonna take his ball and leave. Good for him. Sucks for the parasites of California. Sooner or later the kooks run out of other people’s money. Either that or other people just take their money and go elsewhere. You would think the kooks would learn. You would think. But they never do.

Simple Truths

January 22nd, 2013
9:45 am

Adam @9:39 “Are you asking me to prove a negative?”

I’m asking you to prove what you wrote. In trying to make your claim, you made a wild statement. I’m calling you on it.