The GOP’s unconvincing embrace of ‘compromise’
Apparently, Washington Republicans didn’t much like the president’s speech.
“The words were code for a progressive agenda. I’m hoping that the president will recognize that compromise should have been the words for today, and they clearly weren’t,” Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), told Politico.
Wait: “Compromise”?
Did Mr. Fast and Furious actually say “compromise”? Somewhere, there’s an irony alarm going off.
U.S. Rep. Steve Stockman, Republican of Texas, had a similar response, complaining that “Instead of ‘hope and change,’ Obama has offered only hopelessness, bitter personal attacks and politics as usual.”
And yes, that is the same Steve Stockman currently trying to gin up a campaign to impeach the president.
“President Obama needs to put an end to the extremism that led to record deficits and millions of unemployed Americans, and instead work with Republicans on bipartisan solutions to the serious problems facing our nation,” according to Rep. Steve Scalise, the new chairman of the Republican Study Committee.
The RSC, you may recall, is an organization created for House Republicans who believe that the GOP caucus in general is too liberal and accommodating.
Personally, I don’t believe that anything Obama might have said yesterday, short of “I resign,” could alter the suspicious atmosphere in Washington. In recent years, Republicans may have lacked the power and votes to set the agenda in our nation’s capital, but they have been extremely successful in setting the tone that they now condemn.
In fact, their latest rhetoric suggests that maybe, just maybe, they may be coming to understand the political damage they have inflicted on themselves by such behavior. For example, it’s nice to see that they can now utter the word “compromise” in public without melting down like the Wicked Witch of the West.
That’s progress, of a sort.
– Jay Bookman
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indigo
January 22nd, 2013
10:33 am
Bob – 9:46
Much of that debt comes from Bush’s two credit card wars and generous tax breaks for the rich.
Regnad Kcin
January 22nd, 2013
10:34 am
“Oil giant Exxon Mobil plans to donate $250,000 to help foot the bill for President Barack Obama’s second inauguration today.
During the presidential debates with Governor Mitt Romney, Obama singled out the oil company by name and blasted them as a corporate welfare recipient who profits off voters’ pain at the pump. “The oil industry gets $4 billion a year in corporate welfare,” Obama said. “Now, does anybody think that Exxon Mobil needs some extra money when they’re making money every time you go to the pump? Why wouldn’t we want to eliminate that?”
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It seems Our President has the cojones to take their money, and still blast them. Good for him!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 22nd, 2013
10:34 am
Paul, the recap dimished the real offensiveness of the quoted words: “Dear Patriot,
You and I are literally surrounded. The gun-grabbers in the Senate are about to launch an all-out-assault on the Second Amendment. On your rights. On your freedom.
Just the other night, President Obama urged them to act. And then he went one step further, spelling out the 23 different Executive Orders he will take to get your guns.
My friend, our freedom is under direct assault.
From those who want take your guns. From those who want to shred our Constitution, and as our good in friend Rand Paul from Kentucky says, from those who want to be King. …”
What a pack of lies. What kind of moron believes this garbage. Oh wait…
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 22nd, 2013
10:34 am
Well, I see this Thelma Doom is back to a fightin’ mood. I reckon the insurance tests he had to take kept him toned down for awhile, but he’s returned to the old Thelma that wants to beat up everybody. Glad I don’t need to buy insurance. He’d probly beat me up while forcing me to pay thru the wazoo for some worthless policy that would refuse to pay because I tied a shoelace wrong.
Granny Godzilla
January 22nd, 2013
10:34 am
DowninAlbany
as long as we are splitting hairs – get your comb out
3. “Hostile Workplace,” which reveals that despite the fact that President Obama signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, in his White House, the average man’s salary is higher than the average woman’s salary. That this actually indicates that men, on average, are occupying higher-paying jobs in the White House (a legitimate grounds for criticism, but not something they pointed out), not that women are being paid less for doing the same job—the kind of discrimination the Ledbetter act was designed to combat—doesn’t seem to have occurred to the Beacon.
http://prospect.org/article/conservative-journalism-keeps-getting-better
rightwingextreme
January 22nd, 2013
10:35 am
and i remember pelosi and reid working hand-in hand with Bush 43.
Skip
January 22nd, 2013
10:35 am
Poor Phil, the only guy in America that can’t take any deductions. Must be true if he pays the full rate. That or he’s a misinformed idiot.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 22nd, 2013
10:35 am
alittlecommonsense:
“Looks to me like the Republicans are the only ones compromising. Obama surely isn’t. Republicans haven’t gotten any of the spending cuts they keep asking for”
Braindead much?
Obviously not paying attention if you think the Republicans haven’t gotten their spending cuts. They’ve gotten them in spades with this president who’s bent over backwards to put cuts on the table.
DownInAlbany
January 22nd, 2013
10:35 am
No, I try to refrain from name-calling and “some other such nonsense.” I simply enjoy pointing out the hypocrisy of the current administration. You will have to admit that most of the regulars tend to constantly point fingers at the cons/pubs, while totally ignoring the fact that the libs/dems are doing the same thing. Dissenting views are not widely accepted on here.
Unfortunately, when I do such, I’m belittled as a “must be a Baptist”, “GOPis nuts”, “birther”, “you want children to die (guns)” “you want children to starve.” and other such nonsense.
Brosephus™
January 22nd, 2013
10:36 am
Hmm. So instead of wanting to get to the bottom of why the hell our govt was selling assault rifles to Mexican drug cartels you would rather mock the guy who wants to get to the bottom of it.
Investigating that should have taken all of one day. The government didn’t sell a single gun to anybody. The only gun walking done by the government was done by the whistleblower. The whole program was nothing but recording serial numbers of suspicious purchases to see if they could trace where the money was coming from and where the guns were going.
The fact that people still lie about the whole ordeal is priceless.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
10:36 am
Simple Truths: So what if many disagree? Many also agree? Argumentum ad populum. It means nothing in either direction.
Thulsa Doom
January 22nd, 2013
10:36 am
“Obama is wrong to do that, but Republicans are also wrong to consistently oppose any measures that would help bridge the divide.”
Adam,
You were taken to school long ago on why there is a pay divide between men and women. The gap in pay is largely explained by labor economists. Do we really have to rehash this same crap all over again? There is nothing the govt can do or should do to erase a pay gap which exists for readily explainable reasons. Typical liberal- always searching for a big gubment solution to a non-existent problem.
Paul
January 22nd, 2013
10:36 am
Donovan
” Unfunded, you say…what do you libs call this spending jag we’re on?”
So… when revenue dropped about 17% when Obama took office, where was the House with their budget to align spending with revenue?
Did they “pass a budget” that did that?
Take a look at the real change in level of spending.
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200
Where is this dramatic increase we keep hearing about?
Bottom line (especially considering the House Republican ‘budget’ took decades to balance the budget) is Congressional Republicans are unwilling to cut spending to zero out the deficit as much as some rightwing media want.
Not only do they not compromise, they are unwilling to accept any responsibility at all.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 22nd, 2013
10:36 am
Doom — “Scum of the earth? You mean like a piece of scum that just makes shiite up out of thin air”
Physician, heal thyself.
The other half of your brain.
January 22nd, 2013
10:37 am
Well Skip, It didn’t take long for the name calling, why are you libs so irate?
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
10:37 am
the lib line he used. Gerrymandered districts is the only reason the GOP held the majority in the house.
It’s not a “lib line” that over a million more people voted for Dems over GOPers in the house, in 2012. It’s a fact.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
10:39 am
DownInAlbany: Thulsa disputes your claim that women are paid less than men:
Typical liberal- always searching for a big gubment solution to a non-existent problem.
Please let him know what you think of that.
Regnad Kcin
January 22nd, 2013
10:40 am
“Regnad,
What does having a Swiss bank account have to do with anything”
Because, YOU can’t prove a negative, just like Adam can’t.
BTW – if Romney HAS accepted amnesty for illegally hiding money in a Swiss bank account (as I originally posted), don’t you agree that woud be, in some way a bad thing?
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
10:41 am
Thulsa: Tell it to DownInAlbany, who thinks that women get paid less than men under Obama. I already agreed with you. I am just saying that Republicans oppose the measures that are INTENDED to bridge the divide, which both parties seem to believe exists. So maybe you should talk to them and show them that 15 minute paper you wrote.
The other half of your brain.
January 22nd, 2013
10:41 am
Jump to: navigation, search
Weapons recovered by Mexican military in Naco, Sonora, Mexico on November 20, 2009. They include weapons bought two weeks earlier by Operation Fast and Furious suspect Uriel Patino, who would buy 723 guns during the operation.[1]
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) ran a series of “gunwalking” sting operations[2][3] between 2006[4] and 2011.[2][5] These operations were done under the umbrella of Project Gunrunner, a project intended to stem the flow of firearms into Mexico by interdicting straw purchasers and gun traffickers within the United States.[6] “Gun walking” or “letting guns walk” was a tactic whereby the ATF “purposely allowed licensed firearms dealers to sell weapons to illegal straw buyers, hoping to track the guns to Mexican drug cartel leaders
Bro, I think you need to re-think your wrong position on FAST & FURIOUS.
Paul
January 22nd, 2013
10:42 am
0311
“Apparently, half the voters didn’t vote for him either.”
Actually, it’s less than half didn’t vote for him.
But I suppose you could say, all those who didn’t vote for him voted for the loser.
The other half of your brain.
January 22nd, 2013
10:42 am
The fact that people still lie about the whole ordeal is priceless.
MAN, That one must of hurt.
DannyX
January 22nd, 2013
10:43 am
“the lib line he used. Gerrymandered districts is the only reason the GOP held the majority in the house.”
Lol, now Joe Scarborough is a liberal!
td, why don’t you read what Scarborough said that tell us what you disagree with.
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
10:43 am
The gap in pay is largely explained by labor economists.
Largely? Ok. Let’s say that’s true.
If that’s true, then why the resistance by conservative legislators to allowing women to seek redress in cases when it clearly is not? Why do they continue to rail against it?
Simple Truths
January 22nd, 2013
10:44 am
Adam @10:36 “So what if many disagree? Many also agree? Argumentum ad populum. It means nothing in either direction.”
I was agreeing with your position, and trying to validate your frustration. People on the side opposite you are also frustrated.
I understand that both sides can feel frustrated, both sides can find facts that align with their beliefs. Yet either side’s facts and beliefs conflict with the other side.
Politics is some emotional stuff.
Skip
January 22nd, 2013
10:44 am
Half, you need to look up the word irate. Then try and figure out what an either/or question means.
Brosephus™
January 22nd, 2013
10:45 am
USinner
From downstairs, the trip was good. The lil one enjoyed herself, and that’s who the trip was for.
indigo
January 22nd, 2013
10:45 am
doom – 10:36
There are no defensible “readly explainable reasons” why there should be any pay gap between men and women for doing the same job.
If you believe otherwise, I’d love to know why.
Thulsa Doom
January 22nd, 2013
10:46 am
Brocephus,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal
Sorry man but the Obama administration has blood on its hands.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) ran a series of “gunwalking” sting operations[2][3] between 2006[4] and 2011.[2][5] These operations were done under the umbrella of Project Gunrunner, a project intended to stem the flow of firearms into Mexico by interdicting straw purchasers and gun traffickers within the United States.[6] “Gun walking” or “letting guns walk” was a tactic whereby the ATF “purposely allowed licensed firearms dealers to sell weapons to illegal straw buyers, hoping to track the guns to Mexican drug cartel leaders.”[7]
The stated goal of allowing these purchases was to continue to track the firearms as they were transferred to higher-level traffickers and key figures in Mexican cartels, with the expectation that this would lead to their arrests and the dismantling of the cartels.[8][9] The tactic was questioned during the operations by a number of people, including ATF field agents and cooperating licensed gun dealers.[10][11][12][13][14] During Operation Fast and Furious, by far the largest “gunwalking” probe, the ATF monitored the sale of over 2,000 firearms, of which only 700 were recovered as of October 20, 2011.[15] A number of straw purchasers have been arrested and indicted; however, as of October 2011, none of the targeted high-level cartel figures have been arrested.[7]
Guns tracked by the ATF have been found at crime scenes on both sides of the Mexico–United States border, and the scene of the death of at least one U.S. federal agent, Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry. The “gunwalking” operations became public in the aftermath of Terry’s murder.[2] Dissenting ATF agents came forward to Congress in response.[16][17] According to Humberto Benítez Treviño, former Mexican Attorney General and chair of the justice committee in the Chamber of Deputies, firearms trafficked by smugglers under the watch of the ATF have been found at numerous crime scenes in Mexico, including scenes where at least 150 Mexican civilians were maimed and killed.[18] As investigations have continued, the operations have become increasingly controversial in both countries, and diplomatic relations have been damaged as a result
bookman parrot
January 22nd, 2013
10:46 am
jay, please !?!?! definition: compromise (when from a lib) something we expect from everyone else, but are unwilling to do ourselves; but we (libs) will provide great lip-service about compromise, but have no intention of doing ourselves
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
10:46 am
Bro, I think you need to re-think your wrong position on FAST & FURIOUS
ha ha ha.
You’re going to argue the finer points of that operation with our Bros?
this should be fun. Popcorn, anyone?
The other half of your brain.
January 22nd, 2013
10:46 am
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
10:41 am
Thulsa: Tell it to DownInAlbany, who thinks that women get paid less than men under Obama. I already agreed with you. I am just saying that Republicans oppose the measures that are INTENDED to bridge the divide, which both parties seem to believe exists. So maybe you should talk to them and show them that 15 minute paper you wrote.
” Adam, If you truely believe that Obama does some things that you disagree with I think you would be more believable if you didn’t bring up the Republicans up in the same sentence.
It’s as if you think 2 wrongs make 1 right.
Brosephus™
January 22nd, 2013
10:49 am
The other half
Why? The government didn’t buy or fund guns until the end of F&F. The straw purchases were done with cartel money. Due to NRA diligence, gun laws were worthless for the ATF to do anything more than what they did. The AUSA wouldn’t prosecute anything the ATF brought them, so what else could they have done?
The other half of your brain.
January 22nd, 2013
10:49 am
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
10:46 am
Bro, I think you need to re-think your wrong position on FAST & FURIOUS
ha ha ha.
You’re going to argue the finer points of that operation with our Bros?
this should be fun. Popcorn, anyone?
You can’t argue FACTS, do a little Googling and tell me that I’m wrong. Please, rather than snide remarks.
I don’t care if it’s BRO, or Jay, facts are facts. I know they don’t mean anything to libs, but it doesn’t change the truth.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
10:50 am
The other half of your brain: It’s as if you think 2 wrongs make 1 right.
No, I think 2 wrongs are still 2 wrongs. And that there is grey area that involves every other possible issue, and that the side that is the most wrong right now are the Elected Republicans.
zeke
January 22nd, 2013
10:51 am
Here is the big problem, Jay! Conservatives, Republicans, Conservative Democrats of which they are very very few, cannot compromise with liberal socialist progressive commie democrats because the only thing they see as compromise is for Republicans to completely abandon their core beliefs and agree to only democrat agenda programs!
Thulsa Doom
January 22nd, 2013
10:51 am
indigo,
Very simple. As I stated differences in gender pay are easily explainable. Do you need a tutorial on the subject?
Li'l Aynie
January 22nd, 2013
10:51 am
Republican politicians are the fossils of the last century. They are financed by the greedy ultra-rich and voted into office by the unthinking and the ignorant. Our country has moved on to the 21st Century, and left them, ranting and raving, in the dust.
td
January 22nd, 2013
10:52 am
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
10:37 am
the lib line he used. Gerrymandered districts is the only reason the GOP held the majority in the house.
It’s not a “lib line” that over a million more people voted for Dems over GOPers in the house, in 2012. It’s a fact.
Such a bogus stat. Of coarse a million more Dems voted in house races the Republicans because Obama won and received more votes. DUH Obama turned out his base, which resides in Democratic House districts. Both parties gerrymander districts. Bottom line is the voters in house districts that sent Obama back to the White House also sent their Republican Congressman back to the house. (See Paul Ryan as just one example). These voters decided that they did NOT want to give Obama total control over the countries agenda again like he had his first two years in office.
Erwin's cat
January 22nd, 2013
10:52 am
the cat – why there should be any pay gap between men and women for doing the same job.
depends..are we talking flipping burgers or something more professional? If there is such a thing as a “pay gap” it’s like 2%…if human capitol is equally compared?….do you get paid for what you do, what you know, or some combo of both?
Brosephus™
January 22nd, 2013
10:53 am
Doom
Wiki? Why not pull the Fortune article? They’re about the only ones who actually looked over the documents before reporting.
Paul
January 22nd, 2013
10:53 am
Thulsa Doom
“Sorry man but the Obama administration has blood on its hands. ”
Obama was president in 2006?!!?
Let’s do the time warp again!
The other half of your brain.
January 22nd, 2013
10:54 am
Skip
January 22nd, 2013
10:44 am
Half, you need to look up the word irate. Then try and figure out what an either/or question means.
Skip, People start name calling when they don’t know the answer to something, it’s really kind of childish.
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
10:55 am
Hey, wasn’t that uppity AG Holder supposed to be frog-marched for contempt of court, ’round this time?
whatever happened to that? My Issa, My Issa, why hath thou forsaken me?
td
January 22nd, 2013
10:55 am
Li’l Aynie
January 22nd, 2013
10:51 am
Republican politicians are the fossils of the last century. They are financed by the greedy ultra-rich and voted into office by the unthinking and the ignorant.
And when these now 20 somethings get married, have children and start making household income over $50,000 per year then they will start becoming more and more conservative as they have for the past 250 years. Those are the facts of life.
Brosephus™
January 22nd, 2013
10:56 am
Y’all have fun gotta board my flight.
Thulsa Doom
January 22nd, 2013
10:56 am
Brocephus,
Read further down the link to the part about the Phoenix gunstore. The govt monitored the purchasers and the idea was that they would interdict and make arrests- getting the guns back and arresting straw purchasers and hopefully cartel members. Start reading the paragraph beside the pic of the handgun where it said the operation began Oct. 2009. Then you’ll see where we just dropped the ball completely and let all those guns walk- guns that were later used to kill Americans as well as many Mexicans.
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
10:57 am
Bitchy Mitchy SHEETZ!
NOBODYYOUKNOW
January 22nd, 2013
10:57 am
POLLS,POLLS, POLLS, One could take a different poll in a different area of the country and get an entirely different result. They just don’t mean that much to me. O’bama and the Democrats are no different than the Republicans and their leaders. STUBBORN! And those hardheads in the media are just as stubborn. Libs. and Conservatives. Makes no differance. Meanwhile the country’s financial problems are getting worse and worse. I just wish someone in leadership could get everyone to agree on whats best for the country.
Thulsa Doom
January 22nd, 2013
10:58 am
Paul,
Start reading where I told Bro to read. That is where the ball got completely dropped.
DannyX
January 22nd, 2013
10:58 am
Here you go td,
SCARBOROUGH: “William F. Buckley in the 1960s at some point had to start defining the boundaries of conservatism. He went after the John Birch Society, Ayn Rand, George Wallace. That has to happen again with this party because it’s getting smaller and smaller. In this debate, we actually have conservative thinkers, talking about ronald reagan being a RINO — a Republican in name only, because he supported an assault weapons ban. They keep pushing themselves closer and closer to the cliff. But I just have to say one other really important point, because I made a mistake over the past month talking about how Republicans have also won a majority in the House. As this article I was referencing mentioned, we actually got a minority of votes nationwide in House races. It was just gerrymandering from 2010 that gave us the majority.”
Keep pushing td!
you can't fix stupid or Democrats or liberals
January 22nd, 2013
10:59 am
Fred
Sorry I can’t fix stupid…..just take your meds…..lol
RB from Gwinnett
January 22nd, 2013
11:00 am
Adam, “Conservatives voted against the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. ”
You’re just one bumper sticker after the next, Adam. Tell us specifically what this act does to ensure fair pay for women, Adam, and then tell us WHY it didn’t become law. In short, Adam, research the facts.
Gay marriage is not an issue of discrimination, libs. NOBODY, gay or straight, has a right to marry people of the same sex (or didn’t). What the gays are asking for is the right to do something that currently nobody has. That is NOT descrimination. Next….
JamVet
January 22nd, 2013
11:03 am
Spoonful of sugar indeed. To keep from choking on their own vile medicine, the neocons are gonna need Saxby to get them a refinery’s worth of sugar.
We fired our guns but the neocons kept a comin’
There aren’t as many as there was a while ago…
We got them on the run boys and girls! Time to force them into at least the 1960s…
guy
January 22nd, 2013
11:04 am
RB from Gwinnett, There you go telling the truth and saying things liberals don’t want to hear. This insane spending will stop,believe me. China is beginning to want us to scale back our military in exchange for them to continue to borrow our money. We are at their mercy! I hate where we are heading but we can all look in the mirror and see the problem. You can’t keep giving to those who are ungrateful and spend more than you take in. Ain’t no way!!!! Argue all you want but you can’t run from the eventual result.
Thulsa Doom
January 22nd, 2013
11:04 am
“I am just saying that Republicans oppose the measures that are INTENDED to bridge the divide, which both parties seem to believe exists”
Adam,
The problem is that the pay gap after controlling for factors is about 1-2%. And we don’t know why that is but I strongly suspect that the remaining 1-2% differential its explainable in terms of salary negotiation. Men simply bargain and negotiate harder than women.
Do we really need the govt to get involved for a problem that doesn’t exist? The good news is that in the latest census young women are making more money then comparable young men in their 20s.
Paul
January 22nd, 2013
11:04 am
Thulsa
“Start reading where I told Bro to read. That is where the ball got completely dropped.”
Just seemed a bit incongruous. The cons here accuse the libs of not taking responsibility for anything, even something they’re both involved in, but along comes guns and Mexico and I never hear a peep about the Bush administration.
td
January 22nd, 2013
11:06 am
DannyX
January 22nd, 2013
10:58 am
And what does this have to do with the house being maintained by the GOP? Also, please explain how there were congressional districts that voted for Obama for President and at the same time sent their Republican congressman back to DC (one example is Paul Ryan and there are about 15 or 20 more districts just like his)?
Regnad Kcin
January 22nd, 2013
11:10 am
“The problem is that the pay gap after controlling for factors is about 1-2%”
Then why, when an especially egregious case is found, are the republicans so set upon not allowing a remedy at law?
Paul
January 22nd, 2013
11:12 am
RB from Gwinnett
“Gay marriage is not an issue of discrimination, libs. NOBODY, gay or straight, has a right to marry people of the same sex (or didn’t). What the gays are asking for is the right to do something that currently nobody has. That is NOT descrimination. Next….”
You really don’t ‘get’ discrimination, do you?
try this:
Gay marriage is not an issue of discrimination, libs. NOBODY, gay or straight, has a right to marry. What the gays are asking for is the right to do something that currently nobody has. That is NOT descrimination. Next….
Is a little lightbulb flickering now?
.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
11:13 am
RB: Adam, and then tell us WHY it didn’t become law.
Actually, it did.
Funny. I thought you knew that. The Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act allows women to report that they have been discriminated against in pay after they become aware of it, NOT with a statute of limitations where the clock starts the moment it starts to actually happen. This gives women a chance to file a lawsuit against discrimination even if it’s been going on for 20 years, and fear of lawsuits is a deterrent to businesses who would seek to pay women less for the same work.
THAT is how it addresses the issue of equal pay.
How about you address all the other things, since apparently they are all also bumper stickers?
You’re dodging, ducking, and weaving, and the funny thing is you actually KNOW that. but so does everyone else.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
11:14 am
Thulsa: As I said, argue with someone who actually disagrees with you.
guy
January 22nd, 2013
11:24 am
Argue about things that you can never change. Waste of time!!!!!!
Thulsa Doom
January 22nd, 2013
11:34 am
“Then why, when an especially egregious case is found, are the republicans so set upon not allowing a remedy at law?”
Regnad,
A couple of reasons 1- Republicans can be just as ignorant as Dems.
2- Considering that Rs took a major publicity hit with this faux “war on women” nonsense do you really think they are up for going against anything that could be remotely considered as anti-women?
3- The Rs can’t really win an argument on this anyway. We have a sound bite culture and the pay gap differential can’t be explained in 20 seconds. It would take 5-10 minutes just to cover the minimum number of reasons for the gap. Most people don’t want or care to be educated on the subject and most people and the news in particular don’t have 5-10 minutes to listen to a reasoned explanation for the gap. So naturally the people that just scream discrimination in a sound bite or going to be hard to refute.
GT
January 22nd, 2013
11:37 am
DownInAlbany you got to love the treatment his female candidate Rice got in her confirmation hearing.
The problem is Obama does compromise and it waters down his true interest in women equality. The man has two daughters and a wife that he totally respects as do all of us, for her intellectual and maternal skills.
One thing O does is let tough women in his circle, he is not afraid of them. I have no doubt Rice let McCain have it behind the close doors with her blunt style and this more than the distraction of her handling the death of the ambassador got old man McCain’s pants in a wad.
The Republicans have this token mentality. They think going to church once a year, an appearance of a black face here or there, one woman on the committee chairman list in congress gets the job done and maybe it does. If you believe that all you have to do is keep voting for them, because one thing I know they are not going to change.
Thulsa Doom
January 22nd, 2013
11:39 am
Paul,
Where it got lost between the W administration and O is that both were talking about setting up straw purchasers and then immediately stinging them. What happened under O though is that the interdictions weren’t taking place and other agencies- the Mexicans in particular, weren’t being notified. The purchasers were literally just walking away with the guns which were later used to kill not just Americans but many Mexicans. Big difference. Takes a little while reading that link but there was a big difference in how the program went under W and then O.
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
11:43 am
I heard the cons that attended the inauguration had little sticks with a picture of Mitt attached to it so they could hold it up as an overlay over President Obama’s face. Apparently they’re still fueling their denial with those skewed polling results.
GT
January 22nd, 2013
12:01 pm
You think that the drug cartel in Mexico would have a difficult time obtaining weapons if they had not gotten them from the gun show?
The individual American citizen would because he can’t buy a large enough order to make it worth the gun runner’s time, but a cartel is like an army. These guns found at the scene of the American enforcement killed, are a mere distraction that the right tries to equate to a main ingredient of the problem. Unlike the easy access to the American criminal our enemies don’t need to game our system for their weapons though I do think a part of the middle east weaponry comes from our gross mismanagement of the inventory we took to Iraq and surrounding areas.
What I really worry about much more than this show the Republican Congress is putting on is the cartels allying with the radical Middle East groups who have no trouble finding weapons to fight the world’s best equipped army, the United States, to a standstill. The right has a blurred vision of where the cracks are in our defense. They are so involved in their own selfish agenda they can’t or won’t see the larger picture. I fear their stupidity far more than I fear the ghost they point out for us to fear.
DownInAlbany
January 22nd, 2013
12:05 pm
Ryan voted against the Lilly Ledbetter Act. All [it] said was if a woman finds out she’s been treated and treated wrongly– cheated in terms of her salary and benefits at work– that she’s able to sue from the moment she finds out. That’s all it said. Because they were locked out they said that if you didn’t learn within two years you were being cheated, then you’re out of luck. But we changed the law. It’s not a– it’s a big deal for women, but it’s not a big deal in terms of equal pay.
Want to guess who said this? How about Biden on the campaign trail last fall?
GT
January 22nd, 2013
12:19 pm
The educational channel, run by Chip Rogers, had a special on Reagan’s handling of the Middle East crisis the other night. In a very factual display of evidence they laid out a good argument that our less that good relationship with this part of the world was given birth by Reagan’s clumsy handling of foreign relations there. Even Connie Rice was quoted laying it at the feet of the Reagan’s administration, or as she said, she had no doubt the problems we have today are from the mishandling of that policy in that region then. These people will be in Mexico if they are not already. If the right handles anything worse than they handle domestic problems it is foreign, one hate fits all, problems. Ya we need them to grab that microphone and tell us how it is going to be done.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:21 pm
DownInAlbany: Want to guess who said this? How about Biden on the campaign trail last fall?
What’s your point? Still looking for some way to feel like you won the argument?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
January 22nd, 2013
12:35 pm
Jay: In fact, their latest rhetoric suggests that maybe, just maybe, they may be coming to understand the political damage they have inflicted on themselves by such behavior.
Nah! But you can always dream though. Sorry.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
January 22nd, 2013
12:38 pm
Want to guess who said this? How about Biden on the campaign trail last fall?
I googled that info about Biden, however nothing showed up, (outside of a chain email). Is it possible, if you don’t mind, could you please send me the link to the site that cites that comment?
Purely for educational value only. Thanks!
DownInAlbany
January 22nd, 2013
12:56 pm
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:21 pm
No, I’m not trying to win anything. Just pointing out that you piss moan about Lilly Ledbetter this and that. So and so didn’t support/vote for LL and the VP says it didn’t accomplish anything.
DownInAlbany
January 22nd, 2013
12:59 pm
Why, Debbie, so you can rant and rave about “drudgey spam?”
Try utube and hear it for yourself.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
1:33 pm
DownInAlbany: So and so didn’t support/vote for LL and the VP says it didn’t accomplish anything.
That’s not what he said. And if he DID say that (which he did not) that wouldn’t suddenly make him correct.
LL accomplished an important legislative goal of pressuring anyone who might think of “getting away with” paying a woman less just long enough for her to not notice, into NOT doing so because there is now much more of a chance of getting caught and having to pay up.
Janney
January 22nd, 2013
1:39 pm
GT – “You take a few very wealthy people, add to that some homophobes, a bunch of misogynists, some old school racists, a slew of intolerant religious zealots, and round that out with some illiterate hicks who don’t know any better and what do you have? The new Republican Party. And they are well-represented on this blog.”
That is hilarious!!! Unfortunately, it is also true.
Z
January 22nd, 2013
3:34 pm
These Republican Politicians will be ever diligent on their way to the bottom, lets just hope they don’t drag the Country down with them.
Jonmaguire22
January 22nd, 2013
8:28 pm
I don’t think compromise is the issue. Compromise is knowing your principles and what is ultimately important and not wavering on those issues, but looking at different ways to make those things happen. For instance, raising the debt limit was not compromise, but lack of principle. If they would have been willing to cut their own salary, staff, perks, military or something else they hold dear to make the budget work – that would be compromise.
Also, I think the republicans are too extreme as well, but not because they are too far to the right but too far middle or left and they lack principle. But my vote would be the same as someone who viewed the republicans as too far right. So that chart can be misleading.