Mitch McConnell: “King” Obama out to grab yer guns!
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, who faces re-election in 2014, is doing his part to model the new spirit of moderation and bipartisan compromise that the GOP hopes to demonstrate to voters in the days ahead.
Here’s how he begins a new email message sent out to supporters:
Dear Patriot,
You and I are literally surrounded.
The gun-grabbers in the Senate are about to launch an all-out-assault on the Second Amendment. On your rights.
On your freedom.
Just the other night, President Obama urged them to act. And then he went one step further, spelling out the 23 different Executive Orders he will take to get your guns.
My friend, our freedom is under direct assault.
From those who want take your guns. From those who want to shred our Constitution, and as our good friend Rand Paul from Kentucky says, from those who want to be King.
Let me tell you, Mitch McConnell is ready to lead the fight to protect your rights.
Will you stand with Mitch today? …
Below I’ve included the full list of 23 executive actions issued by the gun-grabbing “King Obama” regarding firearms. I confess to being curious: When McConnell describes these actions as steps that “(Obama) will take to get your guns,” which specific actions does he mean?
Is it the effort to keep identify people who are too crazy to buy guns? Is it the “national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign”? Or the order to trace all weapons recovered in the commission of a crime? The initiative to train first-responders on how to respond to a school shooting?
Every American voter ought to read McConnell’s letter (full text here), read the list of executive actions issued by Obama, and then decide for himself or herself which party represents the sane, rational way forward for the people of this nation.
1.) Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2.) Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3.) Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4.) Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5.) Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6.) Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7.) Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8.) Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9.) Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10.) Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
11.) Nominate an ATF director.
12.) Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13.) Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14.) Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15.) Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
16.) Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17.) Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18.) Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19.) Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20.) Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21.) Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22.) Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23.) Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
– Jay Bookman
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Doggone/GA
January 22nd, 2013
11:54 am
“Abortion is killing a living breathing human and it is discrimination against innocent people’s right to live”
Nope
straitroad
January 22nd, 2013
11:55 am
Jay, what I see on your blog is you using slang language to insult those you don’t agree with and your fans following suit. If that’s what you are encouraging, I suppose I’ll just leave y’all to it.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
11:55 am
“Oblama is KING in his mind.”
ah. yeah. given the rantings from the right today, it’s more your delusions than any of his.
Regnad Kcin
January 22nd, 2013
11:55 am
“O’bozo hates the south, as do the majority of ilks on this blog”
Hey! Who you callin’ an “ilk”!
Oscar
January 22nd, 2013
11:56 am
Israel is moving farther to the right. No two state solution apperars on their vision of the future.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
11:56 am
Abortion is killing a living breathing human
Not Intended to Be a Factual Statement
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 22nd, 2013
11:57 am
Off topic, but I miss me some “Dear Abby”…
http://www.upworthy.com/dear-abbys-perfectly-sassy-response-to-a-hilariously-offensive-question?c=upw1
Recon 0311 2533
January 22nd, 2013
11:57 am
who’s crying? I celebrate this particular anniversary, as do a majority of Americans.
Believe what you choose but there are polls that show otherwise.
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
11:57 am
Hey cons! Wal-Mart is running a special. Buy two AR-15’s and get the third for 33% off. But the offer is only good until noon today. Better hurry. Tell ‘em Mitch sent ya when you get there and receive a surprise bonus.
Doggone/GA
January 22nd, 2013
11:58 am
“If that’s what you are encouraging, I suppose I’ll just leave y’all to it.”
don’t let the door hit you on the way out
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
11:58 am
“Believe what you choose but there are polls that show otherwise.”
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/21/16626932-nbcwsj-poll-majority-for-first-time-want-abortion-to-be-legal?lite
not so much, bubba.
Dharma Bum
January 22nd, 2013
11:58 am
As these blogs continue to demonstrate, we can expect more of the same for the foreseeable future. A stagnant political discourse, a sharply divided populace divided into lowest-common-denominator factions, name-calling, and an untenable fiscal debate.
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
11:59 am
Unskewed polls is the bestest.
Oscar
January 22nd, 2013
12:00 pm
atl you might want to check around and see which countries have failed combination of socialism and free market countries are doing well, that includes the US by the way.
Doggone/GA
January 22nd, 2013
12:00 pm
“Believe what you choose but there are polls that show otherwise”
Are they among those “unskewed” polls?
JamVet
January 22nd, 2013
12:00 pm
Mitch McConnell?
What a huge embarrassment! Even by these abysmally low Republican standards!
That inveterate liar and old fool needs to be sent out to pasture somewhere in 1950s Kentucky…
Regnad Kcin
January 22nd, 2013
12:01 pm
“That we poor people misunderstood when your King said that he wanted to outlaw sporting arms and limit capacity of clips…..So sorry for ever doubting that this administration would ever crush peoples liberty and force people into servitude to the government. The time is now for people to organize and prepare for 2014. We can and will take back our country from this group of socialist, freedom grabbing, hordes.’
And we get another thoughtful logic-blast from a conservative intellectual… *sigh*
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:03 pm
Dharma Bum : And what is your prescription for restoring civility and creating unity?
Oscar
January 22nd, 2013
12:03 pm
bum – agree that no change, or very little appears inthe future.
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
12:04 pm
And remember cons, when you ask the Wal-Mart employee for a hundred rounds of .223 ammo for your AR-15 magazine and they tell you they are all sold out, don’t get all angry and fightin’ mad at the person just tryin’ to scrape by for minimum wage. Ask for a box of those .22’s instead because they’re the same caliber.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 22nd, 2013
12:04 pm
Adam – I think Dharma’s solution is government imposed lobotomies for anyone who disagrees.
Thulsa Doom
January 22nd, 2013
12:04 pm
“14.) Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.”
Seriously? Gun violence is a disease?- sorta like cancer
15.) Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
Sure. A report solves everything. Challinging the private sector to innovate? Don’t they do that already?
“16.) Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.”
Seriously? Involving doctors in the gun debate? Jeez.
“21.) Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.”
And this has what to do with gun violence?
“23.) Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.”
A “dialogue” that is gonna be a whole lotta nothing.
Morality?
January 22nd, 2013
12:05 pm
X – You can Laugh? The immorality of the left is truly sad when you think abortion is funny. Shows just how shallow you are.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
12:05 pm
“Unskewed polls is the bestest.”
yep – according to that, no one even wants to have sex anymore
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:06 pm
Thulsa: Seriously? Gun violence is a disease?- sorta like cancer
It’s statements like these that show pretty clearly why you fail at any debate centered around science.
No, I’m not going to help you by trying to explain how. I just find it funny and would like the entertainment you willingly an unknowingly provide to continue.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 22nd, 2013
12:06 pm
TD – I reckon if you got a gun, you aint gittin no health care.
Oscar
January 22nd, 2013
12:06 pm
President Obama does not hate the south. He does get flustrated with irrational people.
DannyX
January 22nd, 2013
12:06 pm
“Oblama is KING in his mind.”
King Obama!
Good little Republicans have their new scary gotcha phrase, we’ll see it repeated 1000 times during the next week. Each time its repeated the poster will proudly think he just posted an original gem.
Eventually “King Obama” will end up on the pile of ridiculous Obama hysterics, joining all the other examples of Republican genius, such as “Socialist Obama” “Muslim Obama” “Kenyan Obama” “Hitler Obama” “Commie Obama” “Hussein Obama”
Btw…BENGHAZI!
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
12:07 pm
“Seriously? Gun violence is a disease?- sorta like cancer”
considering that the NRA made it a priority to PREVENT them from studying gun violence, there must be something there.
Thulsa Doom
January 22nd, 2013
12:07 pm
All I really want to know is which of these 23 directives would have prevented the Newtown massacre and how? I asked the same question the other day and just got crickets chirping.
JamVet
January 22nd, 2013
12:07 pm
Believe what you choose but there are polls that show otherwise.
Sure there are.
Not that you could even find any but show us where abortion is NOT favored by a majority of the people in this country.
31 percent believe abortion should always be legal, 23 percent believe that it should be legal in most cases, 35 percent believe it should be illegal with exceptions and nine percent believe it should be illegal without exceptions. Two percent were not sure.
Just 24 percent believe Roe should be overturned compared to 70 percent who do not.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/22/poll-majority-of-americans-now-support-legal-abortion-in-all-or-most-cases/
You reactionaries want desperately to pretend that Republican women ALL over this country aren’t getting abortions and that they would never vote for you Masters of the Uterus to outlaw it.
Barefoot and pregnant and working for you cons anymore…
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:07 pm
DannyX: Each time its repeated the poster will proudly think he just posted an original gem.
Like Frat boys who high five each other for farting.
getalife
January 22nd, 2013
12:07 pm
I don’t follow Israeli politics but drudgey does.
Jefferson
January 22nd, 2013
12:08 pm
Just makes people from Kentucky look stupid.
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 22nd, 2013
12:08 pm
Ah, remember the days when the CDC stood for “Communicable Disease Center”? Now they’re turning everything into a disease, whether communicable or not. Government progress,I suppose.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:08 pm
Thulsa: All I really want to know is which of these 23 directives would have prevented the Newtown massacre and how?
Again, why do all 23 measures have to directly apply to only one specific case?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 22nd, 2013
12:08 pm
The feigned ignorance and the over the top rhetoric is simply more clown car nonsense.
getalife
January 22nd, 2013
12:08 pm
The automatic weapon ban did work.
MiltonMan
January 22nd, 2013
12:10 pm
Summary: Obama gave guns to Mexican Drug Dealers via Fast and Furious; Obama wanted to arm “peaceful” Muslim Brotherhood clowns for the Arab Spring; Obama wanted to arm to Libyans but he wants to prevent lawful Americans from having guns???
“Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations”
Illegal weapons used to commit crimes often have the serial numbers rremoved. Good luck on that one.
“Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.”
As soon as my doctor asks me about guns in my home, I will ask him/her about guns in his/her home & office. I then will proceed to find another doctor.
Doggone/GA
January 22nd, 2013
12:10 pm
“The immorality of the left is truly sad when you think abortion is funny”
it isn’t abortion that’s funny. It’s you. have you talked to God yet about ending spontaneous abortions, since they’re just as vile?
Oscar
January 22nd, 2013
12:10 pm
Doom – Can I assume you like the orders you didn’t list. I see nothing wrong with the ones you listed.
One of the best things we csn do is increase awareness of mental disorders.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 22nd, 2013
12:10 pm
Adam, the mere fact that they ask such clownish questions means that they cannot engage sensibly.
Dharma Bum
January 22nd, 2013
12:10 pm
Honestly Adam, both sides dropping the snide remarks would be a good start. Name-calling serves no purpose other than shutting off the other side to even remotely considering what you have to say. I know it will fall on deaf ears, but at least there are a few honest islands of sanity out here in the rolling sea of stupidity that is the current political climate in the U.S.
ClydeFr0g
January 22nd, 2013
12:11 pm
I’ve always hated Mitch McConnell…until now. I still don;t like him or agree with most of what he says but it’s nice to see him stand up for the Constitution (even if it is just to keep his job, since that is what he was “hired” to do by his constituents).
You guys never let go of the “we have so many more murders here in the US than in Canada and UK” propaganda. Though it may be true, there is no way anyone here saying it can positively identify gun ownership as the reason, and certainly not LEGAL gun ownership.
Did you know that violent crime rises with ice cream sales? This is a well-documented fact. So a moron would say we need to eliminate ice cream to drop violent crime. A smart person understands though that correlation does not necessarily indicate causality, and the actual REASON that violent crime increases with ice cream sales is because of temperature;
http://bjc.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/3/340.abstract
Yes, the US has more murders than Canada and UK. Yes, the US has more guns.
SO WHAT? This could be attributed to MANY factors besides gun ownership. Racial diversity, economic inequality, education opportunities, social programs, history….but the militant left anti-gun propagandists latch on like a pit bull to what they believe is the only possible cause – LEGAL GUN OWNERSHIP.
The militant left refuses to acknowledge even the possibility that other factors could come into play. Here’s another great example…did everyone notice the looting, riots, burning, etc. that occurred right after Hurricane Katrina here in the US? Compare that to the complete LACK of looting, rioting, burning, etc. in Japan after being hit with a Tsunami, earthquakes, and nuclear meltdown. Is it just possible that we have factors besides legal gun ownership at play that cause such a different reaction here in the US?
It’s really not that hard to understand why so many gun owners are so certain that the militant left and the current administration DOES intend to disarm LEGAL gun owners.
Comrade Feinstein said on CBS-TV’s 60 Minutes, February 5, 1995, “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in, I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren’t here.”
Also, anyone from the militant left care to comment on the increase in violent crime AND gun crime in the UK after guns were confiscated?
Morality?
January 22nd, 2013
12:11 pm
Lobotomy – That’s what papa Kennedy did to his daughter when she didn’t “behave” the way he wanted her to. So that was tried and done by the Libs but scraped because papa Kennedy’s daughter spent the rest of her life hidden away from society – with the intellect of a brain damaged toddler.
td
January 22nd, 2013
12:11 pm
“The 7th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals in Chicago had just struck down one of the most restrictive gun-control laws in the nation. Illinois was the last remaining state where it was completely illegal to carry a concealed weapon in public.
“I think it’s important that we stress that public safety comes first,” Gov. Pat Quinn, a Democrat and gun-control supporter, said Wednesday. “I think that’s where the people of Illinois are on this issue and anything having to do with guns and assault weapons like that. We cannot have those sorts of people eligible to carry loaded weapons on their persons in public places, whether it be malls or churches or schools.”
CNN article
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:11 pm
Illegal weapons used to commit crimes often have the serial numbers rremoved. Good luck on that one.
Most guns used to commit crimes are legally obtained.
Proving once again the “law abiding citizen” and “criminal” argument is a smokescreen
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
12:12 pm
Thulsa – 12:07 – well, my £0.02 is that a lot of the mental health issues mentioned above would have helped, as would (possibly) the background checks
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:14 pm
Dharma Burn: Honestly Adam, both sides dropping the snide remarks would be a good start. Name-calling serves no purpose other than shutting off the other side to even remotely considering what you have to say.
The way to stop that is to put forward people on both sides who are skilled at not getting into the mud pit when they are called names. Do it consistently, and soon the name callers will stop because they aren’t getting the attention they want.
indigo
January 22nd, 2013
12:14 pm
McConnell’s rant is just the latest evidence we have as to how low and dirty the Republicans are willing to go in order to stay in power.
Their true dirt common colors become more revealed with each passing day.
Unfortunately, their Party is filled with an electorate who want a whiter White House, no matter how low their leaders go.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 22nd, 2013
12:14 pm
Jefferson
January 22nd, 2013
12:08 pm
Jefferson, sadly you are right. I have relatives up there that thinks that Mitch walks on bourbon. They once told me that they would vote for any man the Republican Party put up to run against President Obama…and they did. All of them, en mass, and all of them on every social program the Federal Government has to offer, including all the Agriculture subsidies you can name. Figure it out if you can…I can’t.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
12:14 pm
… and one more – possibly the gun safes (but don’t know if that has to do with the security of the safes or a requirement FOR gun safes)
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:15 pm
td: That does not prove they ignored the court. It says the law was struck down and has someone who offered an opinion on a nuance of the issue that did not address handgun ownership at all.
Pete
January 22nd, 2013
12:15 pm
Justice Scalia, the most conserevative justice to ever sit on the Supreme Court, says that you do have a constitutional right to own a handgun to protect your home and family and you do have a constitutional right to own a rifle or shotgun to hunt. However, he says, you do NOT have a constitutional right to own an assault weapon. For all you gun nuts out there and conspiracy theorists, the government is not trying to take away your guns. 82% of all people, and 74% of NRA members support background checks for anyone buying a gun. Nobody needs an assault weapon for protection or to hunt. A majority of people in this country are sick and tired of innocent children being massacred. Sensible gun legislation in not unconstitutional, and that’s according to the most conservative justice on the Supreme Court.
Oscar
January 22nd, 2013
12:17 pm
Doom Orders 7, 8, 11, 12, 14, 15, 18, and 19 could possibly have prevented or reduced the harm caaused by the shooting you mentioned.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:17 pm
USinUK @12:12p: I recommend not playing that game. It is merely a way that they use to indicate that somehow only changes that would have prevented JUST Newtown (forget all the other mass shootings) before they move the goalposts on you in order to say well, it wouldn’t have been GUARANTEED to prevent just this one instance, therefore we should do nothing because everything is fine.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 22nd, 2013
12:18 pm
RX or GUNS ?
School Shooting
Prozac WITHDRAWAL
2008-02-15
Illinois
** 6 Dead: 15 Wounded: Perpetrator Was in Withdrawal from Med & Acting Erratically
School Shooting
Prozac Antidepressant
2005-03-24
Minnesota
**10 Dead: 7 Wounded: Dosage Increased One Week before Rampage
School Shooting
Paxil [Seroxat] Antidepressant
2001-03-10
Pennsylvania
**14 Year Old GIRL Shoots & Wounds Classmate at Catholic School
School Shooting
Zoloft Antidepressant & ADHD Med
2011-07-11
Alabama
**14 Year Old Kills Fellow Middle School Student
School Shooting
Zoloft Antidepressant
1995-10-12
South Carolina
**15 Year Old Shoots Two Teachers, Killing One: Then Kills Himself
School Shooting
Med For Depression
2009-03-13
Germany
**16 Dead Including Shooter: Antidepressant Use: Shooter in Treatment For Depression
School Hostage Situation
Med For Depression
2010-12-15
France
**17 Year Old with Sword Holds 20 Children & Teacher Hostage
School Shooting Plot
Med For Depression WITHDRAWAL
2008-08-28
Texas
**18 Year Old Plots a Columbine School Attack
School Shooting
Anafranil Antidepressant
1988-05-20
Illinois
**29 Year Old WOMAN Kills One Child: Wounds Five: Kills Self
School Shooting
Luvox/Zoloft Antidepressants
1999-04-20
Colorado
**COLUMBINE: 15 Dead: 24 Wounded
School Stabbings
Antidepressants
2001-06-09
Japan
**Eight Dead: 15 Wounded: Assailant Had Taken 10 Times his Normal Dose of Depression Med
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:18 pm
Hey, here’s a question:
What existing laws, if they had been enforced, would have prevented Newtown?
Clearly, that means we should get rid of all those existing laws that would not have prevented JUST Newtown, right?
Doggone/GA
January 22nd, 2013
12:18 pm
“Name-calling serves no purpose other than shutting off the other side to even remotely considering what you have to say”
When the “other side” rejects your comments out of hand simply because you ARE the “other side” namecalling doesn’t matter. They aren’t going to listen regardless.
F. Sinkwich
January 22nd, 2013
12:19 pm
“As soon as my doctor asks me about guns in my home, I will ask him/her about guns in his/her home & office.”
Me, I’ll just tell her to try to break into my house at 2:00AM and find out…
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:20 pm
Sinkwich: Me, I’ll just tell her to try to break into my house at 2:00AM and find out…
Good. When can I visit you in the mental lockup after they put you there for making that statement?
Morality?
January 22nd, 2013
12:20 pm
Another example of a BRAIN DEAD ZOMBIE for Obama – “Most guns used to commit crimes are legally obtained.” Prove it! I’m still waiting!
td
January 22nd, 2013
12:20 pm
Here is the link to the actual demonstration Friday night that shows how much you progressives do not have a clue about guns and this whole debate over the AR-15 (.223 round) is nothing more then progressives feeling scared of looks of a gun. Really want to here you progressive comments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfaW5OUMG10
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 22nd, 2013
12:21 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 22nd, 2013
12:18 pm
Seems to me you just gave a good argument as to why we need background checks to include mental medical histories
TBS
January 22nd, 2013
12:22 pm
Scout
Are you saying you want increased regulations on the pharmaceutical industry?
Even putting the shooting deaths aside, I do think they are making a mint by working with doctors to medicate people for any and everything.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
12:22 pm
“Justice Scalia, the most conserevative justice to ever sit on the Supreme Court, says that you do have a constitutional right to own a handgun to protect your home and family and you do have a constitutional right to own a rifle or shotgun to hunt. However, he says, you do NOT have a constitutional right to own an assault weapon”
wowsers.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 22nd, 2013
12:22 pm
CULTURE OR GUNS ?
From the World Health Organization:
The latest Murder Statistics for the world:
Murders per 100,000 citizens
Honduras 91.6
El Salvador 69.2
Cote d’lvoire 56.9
Jamaica 52.2
Venezuela 45.1
Belize 41.4
US Virgin Islands 39.2
Guatemala 38.5
Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2
Zambia 38.0
Uganda 36.3
Malawi 36.0
Lesotho 35.2
Trinidad and Tobago 35.2
Colombia 33.4
South Africa 31.8
Congo 30.8
Central African Republic 29.3
Bahamas 27.4
Puerto Rico 26.2
Saint Lucia 25.2
Dominican Republic 25.0
Tanzania 24.5
Sudan 24.2
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9
Ethiopia 22.5
Guinea 22.5
Dominica 22.1
Burundi 21.7
Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7
Panama 21.6
Brazil 21.0
Equatorial Guinea 20.7
Guinea-Bissau 20.2
Kenya 20.1
Kyrgyzstan 20.1
Cameroon 19.7
Montserrat 19.7
Greenland 19.2
Angola 19.0
Guyana 18.6
Burkina Faso 18.0
Eritrea 17.8
Namibia 17.2
Rwanda 17.1
Mexico 16.9
Chad 15.8
Ghana 15.7
Ecuador 15.2
North Korea 15.2
Benin 15.1
Sierra Leone 14.9
Mauritania 14.7
Botswana 14.5
Zimbabwe 14.3
Gabon 13.8
Nicaragua 13.6
French Guiana 13.3
Papua New Guinea 13.0
Swaziland 12.9
Bermuda 12.3
Comoros 12.2
Nigeria 12.2
Cape Verde 11.6
Grenada 11.5
Paraguay 11.5
Barbados 11.3
Togo 10.9
Gambia 10.8
Peru 10.8
Myanmar 10.2
Russia 10.2
Liberia 10.1
Costa Rica 10.0
Nauru 9.8
Bolivia 8.9
Mozambique 8.8
Kazakhstan 8.8
Senegal 8.7
Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7
Mongolia 8.7
British Virgin Islands 8.6
Cayman Islands 8.4
Seychelles 8.3
Madagascar 8.1
Indonesia 8.1
Mali 8.0
Pakistan 7.8
Moldova 7.5
Kiribati 7.3
Guadeloupe 7.0
Haiti 6.9
Timor-Leste 6.9
Anguilla 6.8
Antigua and Barbuda 6.8
Lithuania 6.6
Uruguay 5.9
Philippines 5.4
Ukraine 5.2
Estonia 5.2
Cuba 5.0
Belarus 4.9
Thailand 4.8
Suriname 4.6
Laos 4.6
Georgia 4.3
Martinique 4.2
and ……………………
The United States 4.2
ALL the countries above America have 100% gun bans
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 22nd, 2013
12:22 pm
Adam – I gather you are a proponent for breaking and entering, and an opponent of self defense?
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:23 pm
td: Here is the link to the actual demonstration Friday night that shows how much you progressives do not have a clue about guns and this whole debate over the AR-15 (.223 round) is nothing more then progressives feeling scared of looks of a gun. Really want to here you progressive comments
Hannity? The same guy who told you Romney would win in a landslide and all the polls were skewed and Hillary faked her blot clot and and and…
This dude lies regularly. Why are you still listening to him?
Jefferson
January 22nd, 2013
12:23 pm
Ky lives on pork barrel spending, them folks don’t know budget cuts.
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
12:24 pm
My dear constituency,
Pay no attention to my most lucrative association with Amgen. Obama is after your GUNS!
Yours untruly,
McMitch
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:24 pm
Oppressed Suth’ner: I gather you are a proponent for breaking and entering, and an opponent of self defense?
No but I would LOVE it if you would show us all how you came to THAT conclusion. Tell us your logic process. Show your work.
Ivan
January 22nd, 2013
12:25 pm
I don’t see anything in the EO list that details the enforcement of prohibiting citizens from carrying the tanks, missiles, and automatic weapons that every lefty on here says is all they want to do.
Looks like to me the EO is covering everything down to 9MM hand guns.
McConnell is doing the right thing.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 22nd, 2013
12:25 pm
Mitch McConnell.
Met him once. Nice fellow.
Still wasn’t enough to keep me from becoming a radical communist. Lol.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:26 pm
Scout: Murders per 100,000 citizens
Hey genius? Got the statistics of murders per 100,000 committed WITH A FIREARM per country?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 22nd, 2013
12:26 pm
TBS and Corbin:
That might help but only if they include alcoholism and who might own/drive a car !
Doctor: “Do you have alcohol in your home?”. “Have you ever been arrested for DUI?”
Seriously Folks
January 22nd, 2013
12:26 pm
Okay Thusula…I’ll play along.
Lets see, IF there was a national registry for assault weapons, the perhaps the ATF could have known that a person had purchased several assault style weapons (the shooters mother) and could have found that she was a “doomsday” believer, in that she was stockpiling guns to protect from all those “coming to get her.” It MIGHT have registered on someone’s list.
So lets say her son was receiving some sort of mental health counseling…then they could have alerted authorities to some of his thoughts and they could have put two and two together about an unstable kid in the home with assault rifles…
THAT could have lead authorities to check in to see if the mother had proper gun locks on the weapons…
…how am I doing so far??
Again, NO ONE HAS SAID THAT NEWTOWN WOULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED with these new measures. The sad part is when tragedy strikes, no matter when or where, we REACT to those tragedies and try to understand what, if anything, could have been done to prevent it.
As someone posted in another thread, if your first reaction to the news of the Newtown shootings was to rush out and buy a gun and worry about the government taking your guns, then perhaps you need a morality check!
We are Americans. We can do better….and “talking about” it is NOT the gateway to “Kenyan socialist, brown shirtted, Nazi loving, freedom hating Commies” coming for your guns….
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 22nd, 2013
12:27 pm
“Sinkwich: Me, I’ll just tell her to try to break into my house at 2:00AM and find out…
Good. When can I visit you in the mental lockup after they put you there for making that statement?”
Adam – I’d say it was pretty self-explanatory.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
12:27 pm
“ALL the countries above America have 100% gun bans”
WHAT a load of bollocks.
Picking one at random: Costa Rica:
Costa Rica law allows for possession of most personal self-defense items other than firearms without licensure or permit. Products such as pepper spray, collapsible batons, stun guns, tasers, etc. are all available for purchase by the general public from a variety specialty stores. Legal use of any such item is limited to self-defense from a credible threat of physical harm.
As for firearms, everything from the types of weapons allowed to whom can purchase/import, own and carry with an appropriate license is regulated by the Ministry of Public Security’s Department of Control of Weapons and Explosives Law #7530 (Ministerio de Seguridad Pública, Departamento de Control de Armas y Explosivos Ley 7530).
If an individual desires to legally purchase/import and own/posses a firearm in Costa Rica they must:
a) be a Citizen or Permanent Legal Resident and;
b) be authorized to posses a firearm via a Certificate of Theory and Practice (Certificado de Curso Teórico Practico de Armas de Fuego) from the Departamento de Control de Armas y Explosivos or;
c) hold a valid Costa Rica Permit to Carry a Concealed Weapon (Licencia para Portacion de Armas Particulares)
kayaker 71
January 22nd, 2013
12:27 pm
It is none of the federal government’s or my doctor’s business if I own a firearm. #4 is especially disturbing. Eric Holder is a crook, a deadbeat and a liar. He has no business telling me if I can own a gun or not or establishing categories of those than can.
These 23 executive orders, some of which have merit, will not stop the next Sandy Hook. If the liberals, including Feinstein, could strip every American of gun ownership, they would do it in a New York minute. All of this window dressing BS might appeal to the average liberal voter who would follow most anything that King Obama said but have little credibility in the real world. Think that all of these 23 edicts will stop the gun violence in Chicago, Detroit or Atlanta? If so, you are indeed the most naive liberal that ever lived.
Thulsa Doom
January 22nd, 2013
12:28 pm
Oscar
January 22nd, 2013
12:17 pm
“Doom Orders 7, 8, 11, 12, 14, 15, 18, and 19 could possibly have prevented or reduced the harm caaused by the shooting you mentioned.”
Oscar,
How?
ClydeFr0g
January 22nd, 2013
12:28 pm
USinUK;
“considering that the NRA made it a priority to PREVENT them from studying gun violence, there must be something there.”
Really? That’s pretty simplistic reasoning.
First, gun violence is NOT a disease. Is Rape a disease? Burglary a disease? Auto theft a disease? It’s a LAW ENFORCEMENT issue.
Second, the CDC is BLATANTLY liberal, not even remotely objective. The militant left wants to use the CDC to generate scientific SOUNDING propaganda with a government seal of approval.
So yeah, there is something there alright!
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:28 pm
Scout: Doctor: “Do you have alcohol in your home?”. “Have you ever been arrested for DUI?”
Those are not unreasonable questions to ask if treating a person who might have liver issues or many other actual medical problems that result from too much alcohol. And also, there is no law saying they can’t ask those either.
td
January 22nd, 2013
12:29 pm
Pete
January 22nd, 2013
12:15 pm
Watch the link I provided above and then come back and define which one of those weapons are “Assault weapons” and which ones are not? Why dod you come to your conclusions?
Oppressed Suth'ner
January 22nd, 2013
12:29 pm
“Scout: Murders per 100,000 citizens
Hey genius? Got the statistics of murders per 100,000 committed WITH A FIREARM per country?”
Translation: Murder aint murder unless committed with a firearm.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:30 pm
ClydeFr0g: First, gun violence is NOT a disease. Is Rape a disease?
Yes.
Burglary a disease?
Yes.
Auto theft a disease?
Yes
Is wanting a gun because you fear your government might come oppress you with tyranny a disease? YES
Second, the CDC is BLATANTLY liberal, not even remotely objective
Yeah! I mean, science and reality have a well known liberal bias!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!
What a joke…..
td
January 22nd, 2013
12:31 pm
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am…I think.
January 22nd, 2013
12:21 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 22nd, 2013
12:18 pm
Seems to me you just gave a good argument as to why we need background checks to include mental medical histories
Please show a link where the NRA has opposed background check?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
January 22nd, 2013
12:31 pm
Prescription drugs and cars kill more folks than guns
That is SO true!
Why just the other day, this student at _____________ School, brought in a loaded prescription bottle to school, (it had about 150 pills in the bottle). He opened the bottle and preceded to THROW it at students! There was mass hysteria before he was stopped. 25 people, including 15 KIDS, were hit by those pills and have been traumatized beyond repair!
Now, they won’t even take any pills and the Drug Lobby is ANGRY!
As for the cars, well, you KNOW how badly they affect people! Yesterday at ______________ School, a teenager, angry at his mom for making him use zit cream, rammed his 1994 Ford Bronco repeatedly into the building trying to get to other students! He didn’t actually hurt anyone other than himself, HOWEVER; he has traumatized beyond repair HUNDREDS of kids! Now, they won’t even take up Driver’s Ed anymore and the Car Lobby is ANGRY!
We need to ban PILLS and CARS!!! Who’s with me?!?
**Paid for by the, “I Can Make Really Stupid Comments Too” Campaign to rid the world of stupid comments posted to blogs! AND your local Drug Cartel and Auto Parts dealers.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:31 pm
Oppressed Suth’ner: Translation: Murder aint murder unless committed with a firearm.
Actual Translation: Comparing murder committed with guns in one country to murder in general in order to argue that guns are not the problem is a logic FAILURE. Apples to Oranges.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
12:32 pm
“Really? That’s pretty simplistic reasoning.”
Tell that to the NRA – they were the ones who are trying to dictate what the CDC can / can’t study.
“First, gun violence is NOT a disease. Is Rape a disease? Burglary a disease? Auto theft a disease? It’s a LAW ENFORCEMENT issue. ”
Says you. I’d prefer to have medical professionals determine what is and is not a disease, thankyewverymuch. I’m particularly interested in having them look at the reasons BEHIND gun violence – which could include mental illness
Doggone/GA
January 22nd, 2013
12:32 pm
“Second, the CDC is BLATANTLY liberal, not even remotely objective”
Got proof?
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:32 pm
td: Watch the link I provided above and then come back and define which one of those weapons are “Assault weapons” and which ones are not? Why dod you come to your conclusions?
Begging the question. Logic FAIL
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
12:33 pm
“Second, the CDC is BLATANTLY liberal, not even remotely objective”
ohmysweetbabyjeebus.
they really have crossed the Rubicon into Crazyland.
getalife
January 22nd, 2013
12:33 pm
scout,
Which one are you on?
mm
January 22nd, 2013
12:33 pm
Can’t wait for Ashely Judd to run against this fool.
Speaking of fools, my wingnut neighbor had upside down flags in his yard yesterday. Stupid sheep.
td
January 22nd, 2013
12:33 pm
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
12:23 pm
So just because the gun demonstration was done on the Hannity show then it is not a valid demonstration?
Thulsa Doom
January 22nd, 2013
12:33 pm
“the “perhaps” the ATF “could have” known that a person had purchased several assault style weapons (the shooters mother) and “could have”
It “MIGHT” have registered on someone’s list.
So lets say her son was receiving some sort of mental health counseling…then they “could have” alerted authorities to some of his thoughts and they “could have” put two and two together about an unstable kid in the home with assault rifles…
THAT “could have” lead authorities to check in to see if the mother had proper gun locks on the weapons…
…how am I doing so far??- Seriously folks
Seriously folks,
Not very good. So far I read “perhaps”, “might”, and “could have” 5 times. Try again.
guy
January 22nd, 2013
12:34 pm
First of all,obama is not a king. He’s Kenyan born and raised and we are stuck with him for four more years. To some that’s great and to others it’s a nightmare and a disgrace. Take your choice! The King is God in Heaven and He will see us through a lot more than humans will. Again,take your choice. Time will tell who the King of Kings is. Good luck!
Morality?
January 22nd, 2013
12:34 pm
Lack of intelligence is not restricted to one side…….. I am neither Dem nor Repub. Did not vote for “W” or Obama. because they are BOTH wasteful big spending FISCAL liberals I am a FISCAL conservative ( do not spend beyond your means). The definition of INSANITY is to keep spending decade after decade beyond your means until you destroy the USA. What we have now in Congress is PARTY LOYALISTS on BOTH sides that put their PARTY and their reelection ahead of LOYALTY for the FISCAL future existence of the USA. We need TERM LIMITS for Congress to rid ourselves of these PARTY LOYALISTS gorging themselves at the tax payers trough. We need a BALANCED BUDGET amendment to the Constitution to end this addictive insane cowardly destruction of the FISCAL future of the USA.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
12:34 pm
“Got proof?”
it’s science. ergo. liberal.