Obama II: What will the next four years hold?
The National Mall at sunrise, photo courtesy of blog poster Brosephus
Barack Obama was officially if informally sworn into office for the second time Sunday, but the formal, public ceremony is taking place today, on a bright, cold Martin Luther King Jr. Day, with Obama taking the oath on bibles owned by King and President Abraham Lincoln.
We’ll be live-blogging the rest of the ceremony ….
11:38 — A nicely done, dignified prayer by civil rights leader Myrlie-Evers Williams, a woman who has seen a lot.
11:41: With Sen. Schumer of New York as inaugural planner, it’s understandable that a Brooklyn choir is doing the “Battle Hymn of the Republic.” But really, a southern choir would have done it righteously.
11:47 Taking his oath, Biden’s just repeating what Sotomayor is saying. Didn’t he get in trouble for that once?
11:51: Obama takes oath, with one small stumble certain to cause comment among a few. The Capitol looks resplendent.
11:58: A call from Obama to the necessity of joint, unified action. “My fellow Americans, we are made for this moment, and we will seize it if we seize it together.”
12:03 “Social Security, Medicare … do not make us a nation of takers”
12:04: A call to action on climate change. The first real news of the day, committing to a second-term goal.
12:08: A strong embrace of gay rights, equal respect, immigration reform … a broadening of the American family.
12:10: “We cannot mistake absolutism for principle.” I suspect that was directed to some Dems as well as Republicans.
12:12: A relatively brief address by the president, with talk of national unity and purpose interspersed with indirect if sharp reminders of issues that divide us.
12:20: A rather prosaic effort by poet Richard Blanco.
12:31: But a stirring version of the Star Spangled Banner by the lovely and talented Beyonce to close the ceremony.
– Jay Bookman
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Jm
January 21st, 2013
11:39 am
The next 4 years?
Stagnant middle class income, lots more debt, and more war.
Oh yes, and healthcare mayhem.
Same as the last 12. Should be entertaining if you like black comedy.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
11:42 am
Poor John Roberts
Obama is gonna make him do it twice
Obama may be convicted for torture later.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
11:47 am
Schumer’s voice sounds like screech owls
Jm
January 21st, 2013
11:48 am
Way to go Joe
No slip ups
Might be a first
Jm
January 21st, 2013
11:49 am
Not a James Taylor fan
Jm
January 21st, 2013
11:50 am
Oh let Jay Z do it
He’d have been better and is only a few rows back….
Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer...and Ban the Gun Thug!
January 21st, 2013
11:51 am
jm,
I don’t believe there has ever been a more gentle person than James Taylor. You really should listen to his music.
_
It’s Obama Time!
Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer...and Ban the Gun Thug!
January 21st, 2013
11:54 am
Something I haven’t done in a long time, but I just had to stand up and salute The President.
DannyX
January 21st, 2013
11:55 am
Any idea on when the unskewed inauguration will take place?
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
11:56 am
What will it hold? I’m guessing a lot more hard-hitting interviews with “The View”, and Jay Leno regarding his ipod playlist and lots of golf. Lots and lots and lots of golf.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
11:56 am
Politics does not get any better than this.
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
11:58 am
collective action is needed
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
11:58 am
one people
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
11:59 am
together again
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:01 pm
gettin political now
Jm
January 21st, 2013
12:02 pm
Obama says we will not make choices about where to spend
We will spend on the old and young, but we will not cut
Figures
Obama, not a decider
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
12:02 pm
JAY
I say the chinese are likely happier than and making more noise than any of us…their credit providers can budget a chunk of the 4 trillion more debt we will require….heck they may even get a better interest rate…
He, like Bush has as equal chance of a horrid second term to offset the “amazing” legacy you have already bestowed upon him…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
12:02 pm
There’s going to be a lot of con whining about this speech.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
12:03 pm
Obama
Tax and spender extraordinaire
At least he knows what he believes
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
12:03 pm
climate change! Hope that is a sign that Obama will act strongly on the issue.
bob
January 21st, 2013
12:03 pm
He will be whining about the rich not paying enough in taxes, and blaming them and Bush for health insurance premiums rising through the roof. He will never take the same stance on the debt ceiling as he took when he was a senator.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
12:04 pm
Did he make any second term resolutions?
Jm
January 21st, 2013
12:04 pm
Keep
Climate change is DOA unless wrapped into tax reform
And Obama doesn’t do tax reform
He does tax complexity
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
12:06 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
12:03 pm
Yeah I agree…the temperature here turned cold. He can fix that and continue to keep the oceans at an acceptable level…good call.
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:07 pm
all babies do not have the same chane of sucess, and are not create equal.
Jay
January 21st, 2013
12:08 pm
When did I suggest this “amazing legacy”, Stevie Ray?
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:08 pm
immigrants
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
12:08 pm
Oh well, we see the climate change deniers and quitters remain negative.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
12:09 pm
A very political speech sounding MLK.
F. Sinkwich
January 21st, 2013
12:09 pm
Next four years? More of the same:
War on fossil fuels.
War on the productive and successful.
Demonization of the right.
Stifling regulations.
High unemployment.
Blaming Bush.
Uncontrolled government spending.
Fawning media.
Etc.
That was easy!
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:10 pm
stop name calling
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
12:11 pm
“all babies do not have the same chane of sucess, and are not create equal”
“created equal” is not a physical statement…it is a political statement
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:11 pm
great speech
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:12 pm
dog – time to stop using it
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
12:13 pm
Climate is always changing, you science-focused libs. Climate continually changed billions of years before homo sapiens arose.
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:13 pm
go kelly
Butch Cassidy (I)
January 21st, 2013
12:14 pm
Just stopped by to check on Kyles blog. He’s reviewing the speech in real time, but it’s only him, Bruno and Lil Barry Bailout OBAMAPHONE!! giving each other moral support for what I’m sure in their mind is the end of civilization as we know it.
Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer...and Ban the Gun Thug!
January 21st, 2013
12:15 pm
He says that the oath he and his cabinet (Congress)took was to God and Country and not party or faction…are you listening out there?
Butch Cassidy (I)
January 21st, 2013
12:16 pm
F. Sinkwich – “Next four years? More of the same:
War on fossil fuels.
War on the productive and successful.
Demonization of the right.
Stifling regulations.
High unemployment.
Blaming Bush.
Uncontrolled government spending.
Fawning media.
Etc.”
When does your flight leave?
LastAmericanInAmerica
January 21st, 2013
12:16 pm
Turn the TV off, ignore the destroyer morons in this deadbeat nation elected. Think I’ll head to KFC for some fried chicken.
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:16 pm
hard song to sing – good job
getalife
January 21st, 2013
12:17 pm
Chelsea Clinton’s first community organizing job went well.
RB from Gwinnett
January 21st, 2013
12:18 pm
Oscar, “one people”
Seriously???? You’re kidding yourself if you think the people you’re fleecing for your own benefit have any intention of becoming “one people” with you.
Beverly Fraud
January 21st, 2013
12:19 pm
In education, it will be a complete total unmitigated disaster, as RTTT makes snake oil salesmen look like Clark Howard in comparison.
Of course when you have an education secretary who supports the likes of Beverly Hall and Michelle Rhee, what do you expect?
Adam
January 21st, 2013
12:20 pm
I suspect that was directed to some Dems as well as Republicans.
Why you LIBRUL HACK, Jay!
Adam
January 21st, 2013
12:22 pm
Stevie Ray: From downstairs: Are you saying there is a solution to minority unemployment that the President has not considered or acted on that would bring it to the same level as white unemployment?
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:22 pm
good word imagery
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:23 pm
rb – weird, dude
F. Sinkwich
January 21st, 2013
12:24 pm
“When does your flight leave?”
Well, I don’t have any trips planned at this point.
But thanks for asking!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 21st, 2013
12:28 pm
Well, I watched the Kenyan Muslim Socialist getting installed during one of my breaks at Johnny’s bar, but I was too busy hating all the people I hate to catch many of the words. I reckon it was as good as you can get on a teleprompter. All those Moochers on TV seemed to like it.
Now we can go back to the wars on each other. Have a good lunch everybody.
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
12:29 pm
“dog – time to stop using it”
Nope. It is, and always should be, politically accurate
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:32 pm
well sung.
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:34 pm
ceremony well done. one of the best.
four more years of progress
Middle Class
January 21st, 2013
12:35 pm
Like the first four years…rich will get richer (stock market grew). Poor will become more dependent on government and less likely to find work. Health care costs will increase for working people. Wages will not grow. Gas prices will remain high. In short, the middle class will bear the brunt again. The people Obama loves to demonize in public (the very wealthy) will do just fine. I’ll give BO the benefit of the doubt on tax increases and say there were none on the middle class in his first term since the SS thing is debatable. However, the second term will see taxes increase for the middle class. Debt will increase again because the middle class will want to maintain the standard of living to which they’ve become accustomed. Borrowing requirements will once again be relaxed in order to project the illusion of national prosperity. Banks and the mortgage companies will make out like bandits again. By the middle of the next president’s term, we will have another debt crisis.
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
12:36 pm
The commitments we make to each other – through Medicare, and Medicaid, and Social Security – these things do not sap our initiative; they strengthen us. They do not make us a nation of takers; they free us to take the risks that make this country great.
Please make a note of it.
bookman parrot
January 21st, 2013
12:36 pm
the first order of “business” is to try and keep my lunch down … LOL
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:37 pm
class = sound like a born optimist
FarTrain
January 21st, 2013
12:37 pm
M-I-S-E-R-Y !!!!!!!!! Those who voted for him will be the first ones yelling and screaming. Wait and see!
Bill Campbell
January 21st, 2013
12:39 pm
Depressiion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He will seal his fate as the worst US President in History!!
getalife
January 21st, 2013
12:40 pm
“By the middle of the next president’s term, we will have another debt crisis.”
Are you counting the giant regulation of gop self inflicted crisis or are you not paying attention?
RB from Gwinnett
January 21st, 2013
12:40 pm
I predict the next 4 years will include an executive order making illegals legal enough to vote, probably before the mid-term elections. I don’t think it will get through congress, so it’ll get shoved down our throats the same way Obamacare did.
I also predict in January 2014, there’s going to be MAJOR calamity with a large percentage of low wage workers hours being capped at 30 hrs/week to avoid the Obamacare limit. It may even be significant enough to throw us back into a recession as these 30 hr/wk employees rent, gas, food, etc. will INCREASE as their pay decreases. A storm is brewing and you’d better be paying attention. In fact, you libs might give Ray Nagin a call to see what happens when you ignore a storm.
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
12:40 pm
Well written, Middle Class. It is one of the great fallacies of our age that “greedy wall street bankers” caused the economic crisis. The blame is squarely on the fed and the subsidized mortgage loans backed by Freddie and Fannie that caused it all. The “illusion of prosperity” phrase hit the nail on the head, and it will happen again, probably sooner than later.
Richard
January 21st, 2013
12:42 pm
As an aside, the Falcons fought a good fight Sunday and have nothing to be ashamed of. They can hold their heads high after completing such a successful year. Too bad they couldn’t hold on to the lead, but there is always next year and Matt Ryan is a great QB. Way to go Falcons!!
getalife
January 21st, 2013
12:42 pm
bill,
The bush depression is over.
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:43 pm
menu for lunch sounds awful. where are the mashed potatoes and blac eyed peas. and chocolate cake and coffee
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
12:44 pm
What? RB did not predict the $25 Pappa John’s pizza because of Obamacare?
td
January 21st, 2013
12:45 pm
Jay,
“Barack Obama was officially if informally sworn into office for the second time Sunday, but the formal, public ceremony is taking place today”
Should not this be in reverse rather then the way you wrote it? Yesterday, was the formal (Constitutional) swearing in and today was informal and for the public’s benefit. Just asking.
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
12:45 pm
parrot @ 12.36, if the prospect of a centrist-Democrat President being inaugurated for a second term actually makes you physically ill, maybe you ought to get some kind of professional help.
BlahBlahBlah
January 21st, 2013
12:46 pm
If recent history holds, something BIG and UNFORSEEN will hit in his second term.
Clinton’s second term = Monica and impeachment
Bush’s second term = Katrina and the housing meltdown
Obama’s second term will have something BIG (and likely bad) that he’ll have to deal with. I wish him luck.
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
12:46 pm
class – the private sector screws up and cons blame the govt for failure of regulation, which they don’t want any of.
crooks rob a bank,blame the cops for not having stopped them
PlainTtruth
January 21st, 2013
12:46 pm
55 million children aborted since abortion murder became legal by Democrats! You will have to give an account for your vote one day! Obama is the most pro-abortion President ever!
RB from Gwinnett
January 21st, 2013
12:46 pm
“The commitments we make to each other…”
That may have been true back when everybody contributed to the tax base that “we” pulled from, but I can assure you, that ain’t the case any more. The only commitments being made these days are liberals are committed to spending every dime they’re able to fleece out of somebody else.
Jay
January 21st, 2013
12:48 pm
td, I think not. Yesterday was official — as required under the Constitution — but comparatively informal. Today was the formal ceremony, while the technical swearing-in was yesterday.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
12:48 pm
“Abortion became legal by Democrats”
You mean a constitutional right? Your hatred is duly noted as well as your lack of comprehension of the issues.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
12:49 pm
He keeps speaking of innovation because something big is coming.
Something that will create a new bubble to create millions of jobs.
I am very optimistic about our future.
Competent leadership makes that happen.
BlahBlahBlah
January 21st, 2013
12:50 pm
RB, conservatives have no problem spending every dime either. Right wing hero Paul Ryan never saw a spending bill he didn’t LOVE under Bush, and only found fiscal Jesus when a Democrat moved in to 1600 Penn Ave.
Soothsayer
January 21st, 2013
12:50 pm
I still can’t understand why Ryan threw that long pass into double coverage. I guess he’ll have a whole year to think about it.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 21st, 2013
12:51 pm
All in all, a very great and historic day.
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
12:51 pm
55 million children aborted since abortion murder became legal by Democrats!
WTF?
Are the pharmacies closed today?
Soothsayer
January 21st, 2013
12:52 pm
I especially can’t understand why we play our 1st team in games that don’t mean anything and result in injury to our star player (Abraham).
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 21st, 2013
12:53 pm
“55 million children aborted since abortion murder became legal by Democrats!”
Can’t stand what today means so he turns on the deflector shields…
Jm
January 21st, 2013
12:54 pm
That was short as heck
Fine by me
Any more collectivist commentary from the prez and I’d have had to turn the boob tube off
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
12:55 pm
Oscar, i was a loan officer from 2003 to 2008 and worked for a company who refinanced mortgages to adhere specifically to fannie guidelines. We broke no rules, and followed the letter of the law, and we could get a ham sandwich approved for a loan, which we would immediately sell to larger banks or fannie itself.
We in the business knew it was a house of cards built on sand that would collapse, and ultimately it
did. The people who were most concerned about “equality” and mass home ownership were the ones surprised by the fallout.
You can put whatever spin on it you please, but REGULATION drove our actions.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
12:55 pm
It seems the “haters” still have not figured out that stagnant middle-class wages have been a reality for the last 30 years and those that believe that there are people who work and do not contribute their fair share to the tax base should stop and read what the tax code entails and leave the talking-points to the politicians, as the “haters” are not scholars who dismiss the facts and abandon reality.
Here is something that explains what has occurred.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/09/30/a-closer-look-at-the-pay-gap-in-charts/
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 21st, 2013
12:55 pm
Arthur Blank will get his stadium upon the backs of the working poor……………and you’ll like it.
Cigarette, gasoline, and booze taxes will soar…..Everybody will have health insurance but very few will have healthcare.
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And Obmam’s HR 347 ..which Criminalizes protests anywhere the Secret Service goes……will be just a taste of things to come.
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But on the bright side…… the Ron Paul Army will continue to grow.
.
Soothsayer
January 21st, 2013
12:55 pm
10 trillion chickens who will never see the light of day because we ended their lives by frying, cooking them in omelettes, or boiling them in water.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
12:56 pm
Jay I agree on the poem
Soothsayer
January 21st, 2013
12:58 pm
Jay, I have a suggestion for a thread: one that somehow incorporates abortion, gun control, climate change and the FairTax. It would set new records for the number of posts.
The other half of your brain.
January 21st, 2013
1:00 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
12:03 pm
climate change! Hope that is a sign that Obama will act strongly on the issue.
He is Keep, Solyndra is leading the way.
Jay
January 21st, 2013
1:01 pm
No, Class of ‘98. By your own account, it was GREED that drove the process. By your own account, it was the ABSENCE of strong regulation that contributed to it.
The other half of your brain.
January 21st, 2013
1:01 pm
Soothsayer
January 21st, 2013
12:58 pm
Jay, I have a suggestion for a thread: one that somehow incorporates abortion, gun control, climate change and the FairTax. It would set new records for the number of post
True, however it will still be approx 20/30 people posting 20 or 30 times.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:02 pm
The first President to call on gay rights in a inauguration.
This President is all about making history.
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
1:02 pm
10 trillion chickens who will never see the light of day because we ended their lives by frying, cooking them in omelettes, or boiling them in water.
Please can you stop the noise I’m trying to get some rest
From all the unborn chicken voices in my head
barking frog
January 21st, 2013
1:06 pm
The next four years will be like the last four except a little better.
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
1:07 pm
No Jay, we were just playing by fannies rules. My company took NO RISK at all in selling those mortgages. If there was LESS regulation, we never would have risked selling mortgages to deadbeats with 450 fico scores. But BECAUSE of the regulation, we took no risk at all.
Besides, all you libs who whine about our “greed” now patted us on the back in 2007 because we helped the “less fortunate” stay in their homes.
Make up your mind.
Jeffrey
January 21st, 2013
1:08 pm
Did anyone see Romney? I thought he was supposed to be there. I miss that huckster.
saywhat?
January 21st, 2013
1:10 pm
Ah yes, Inauguration Day! Or as Mitt Romney calls it, Monday.
saywhat?
January 21st, 2013
1:11 pm
Inauguration Day!!!!! Or as Mitt Romney calls it, Monday.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 21st, 2013
1:11 pm
“Obama II: What will the next four years hold?”
The same as JAWS II ………… more carnage.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
1:11 pm
Good choice on the main course
Granny Godzilla
January 21st, 2013
1:11 pm
Good Job Mr. President!
A strong address – a prelude to a stronger SOTU.
I’m fired up and ready to go for 2014!
saywhat?
January 21st, 2013
1:12 pm
so funny I had to post it twice.
indigo
January 21st, 2013
1:15 pm
PlainTtruth – 12:46
Many more women than that have had spontaneous abortions(miscarriages) in that time period.
Who do you blame for that?
indigo
January 21st, 2013
1:17 pm
Overall, things have been gradually getting worse in America since at least 2000.
I suspect this trend will continue for the foreseeable future.
DannyX
January 21st, 2013
1:17 pm
“Did anyone see Romney? I thought he was supposed to be there. I miss that huckster.”
Romney was sworn in using Te’o’s Bible. It was beautiful.
Granny Godzilla
January 21st, 2013
1:19 pm
It was reported that Mr. Romney is at home in La Jolla and that he was not expected to
watch the ceremony.
What will the next four years hold?
January 21st, 2013
1:19 pm
More of the same — punish success, reward failure…
Chris Salzmann
January 21st, 2013
1:20 pm
Bill Campbell@12:39 pm: Depressiion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He will seal his fate as the worst US President in History!!
_____________________________________________________________________________
CONfused aren’t we? It was President GW Bush that handed this President the greatest Recession since the Great Depression. This President got us out of it. BTW, the Great Recession officially began in December 2007 and officially ended in 2010. Who was President in 2007 and in 2010?
The mantle for the worst President in US history has already been taken. GW didn’t even have the grace to show up for this inauguration.
Good luck with trying to rewrite history………
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
1:20 pm
“Lots and lots and lots of golf.”
Well, George took the bike home…
DannyX
January 21st, 2013
1:21 pm
Does anyone know if Elmer Fudd watched the ceremony?
Jm
January 21st, 2013
1:21 pm
Less war
Less spending
Less taxes
Fewer laws
Less government
More prosperity
TBS
January 21st, 2013
1:21 pm
getalife & josef
Have either of you read or heard about the following?
http://news.yahoo.com/kremlin-start-evacuation-russians-syria-174057858.html
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
1:21 pm
class – you just admitted you knowingly made bad loans. don’t blame anyone else for what you did
Just Saying..
January 21st, 2013
1:24 pm
Man, both here and downstairs, our cons are the life of the party.
For our enjoyment…
The Left, uncomfortable with God talk, ignores MLK’s deep devotion to Christ
January 21st, 2013
1:25 pm
BTW, regarding Down below — “…Listen carefully and you’ll hear endless mention of Doctor Martin Luther King — but little if any mention of the Reverend Martin Luther King…”
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/338177/king-s-media-makeover-lee-habeeb
Jm
January 21st, 2013
1:25 pm
“A strong address – a prelude to a stronger SOTU.”
Granny
I disagree
I’ve been in line at mcdonald’s longer than that speech lasted
Chris Salzmann
January 21st, 2013
1:25 pm
Granny Godzilla @ 1:19 pm: It was reported that Mr. Romney is at home in La Jolla and that he was not expected to watch the ceremony.
________________________________________________________________________________
Yes, that “Son of Detroit” is a real class act. All the votes had not even been counted before he went out and bought himself an Audi Q7 SUV to drive himself into the dustbin of history. Very classy………….
Jm
January 21st, 2013
1:26 pm
Valerie jarrett: we don’t have to solve long term problems
Ok
Figures
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
1:26 pm
Jm: “Stagnant middle class income, lots more debt, and more war”
You imply that there was someone on offer who represented an alternative to those things.
appleseed
January 21st, 2013
1:27 pm
Bond market crumbling,inflation raging,the $dollar will be the size of a postage stamp by next election.Never elect another Bush to office.
F. Sinkwich
January 21st, 2013
1:28 pm
“12:03 “Social Security, Medicare … do not make us a nation of takers””
Typical O’bozo straw man.
Tell me, O’bozo, who said that? No one? That’s what I thought…
getalife
January 21st, 2013
1:30 pm
Thanks Both,
No, I did not read that until now.
I thought they already did that.
Granny Godzilla
January 21st, 2013
1:30 pm
Jm
January 21st, 2013
1:25 pm
“A strong address – a prelude to a stronger SOTU.”
Granny
I disagree
I’ve been in line at mcdonald’s longer than that speech lasted
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.
.
You continue to fulfill my expectations.
McDonalds?
Nutrician is very important to critical thinking skills.
Road Scholar
January 21st, 2013
1:30 pm
Jay : Was McConnell there did not see him.
To the rest of the mudslingers, insulters, and rude: You are giving America a bad name. Yes You ! And what have you accomplished? Nothing besides showing that you live on the bottom of the ocean under tons of whale dung!
Cosby
January 21st, 2013
1:33 pm
Yep..The kings forces wer al out in their gala dress. wonder how mcuh the royalty spent of the work a bee’s money show how importaqnt they are and above the common peiople they are. Time to remind those in DC that they “SERVE” the people and not “RIP” the people off for their lavish lifestyle.
joe
January 21st, 2013
1:33 pm
1. entitlement spending increased by 80%
2. 4 more years of over 1-trillion overall spending, moving our national debt north of 20-trillion
3. rise in unemployment due to obama care, where small businesses cut to get under 50 employees
4. taxes raised higher on everyone, but those making under $20,000 per year
5. zero domestic energy growth
6. more “investment” in green energy companies that go out of business soon after getting fed funds
7. shift of al queda from afghanistan to northern africa
8. further attempts to erode the 2nd amendment
9. more executive orders to circumvent our constitution
10. Falcons won’t reach the superbowl
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
1:33 pm
jm – stay away from those big macs. at least only two a year. eat more chicken
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
1:34 pm
It is one of the great fallacies of our age that “greedy wall street bankers” caused the economic crisis.
Wow. Just wow.
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
1:36 pm
but little if any mention of the Reverend Martin Luther King…”
Glad to see the National Review is still out there stoking racial hatred, as in days of yore.
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
1:37 pm
jam – he is right, it was greedy lenders and loan officers. and greedy home buyers buying houes they could not affod. no interst loans. sell at a profit in five years.
Jay
January 21st, 2013
1:37 pm
That is just so pitiful, “uncomfortable.”
Just downright pitiful. From the speech:
” … while freedom is a gift from God, it must be secured by His people here on Earth.
“… a little girl born into the bleakest poverty knows that she has the same chance to succeed as anybody else, because she is an American, she is free, and she is equal, not just in the eyes of God but also in our own.”
“My fellow Americans, the oath I have sworn before you today, like the one recited by others who serve in this Capitol, was an oath to God and country….”
“And we must be a source of hope to the poor, the sick, the marginalized, the victims of prejudice – not out of mere charity, but because peace in our time requires the constant advance of those principles that our common creed describes: tolerance and opportunity; human dignity and justice.”
“… That is how we will preserve our planet, commanded to our care by God. That’s what will lend meaning to the creed our fathers once declared.”
“Thank you, God Bless you, and may He forever bless these United States of America.”
Chris Salzmann
January 21st, 2013
1:37 pm
F. Sinkwich @ 1:28 pm: “12:03 “Social Security, Medicare … do not make us a nation of takers””
Typical O’bozo straw man.
Tell me, O’bozo, who said that? No one? That’s what I thought…
_______________________________________________________________________________
“We’ve Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers (WSJ)April 01, 2011 By STEPHEN MOORE”
You should get out more often. Google the phrase and you’ll get plenty of hits.
Typical CON, long on fantasy, short on reality! No wonder you folks are heading to long term minority status.
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
1:39 pm
Tell me, [President Obama], who said that?
Mitt Romney. It was in all the papers.
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
1:42 pm
Biden’s just repeating what Sotomayor is saying. Didn’t he get in trouble for that once?
…jeez, jay hands you guys red meat, and–nothin’.
What will the next four years hold?
January 21st, 2013
1:43 pm
During President Obama’s first term, the amount of participants on food stamps, formally known as the Supplemental Assistance Nutrition Program (SNAP), increased approximately 11,133 persons per day.
When Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, the number of SNAP participants was 31,939,110. That same figure has since jumped to 47,525,329 as of October 2012, the latest month that data are available.
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
1:44 pm
however did I miss this?
Romney’s son Tagg told The Boston Globe in December that his father was never really all that into winning the nation’s highest office anyway.
“He wanted to be president less than anyone I’ve met in my life,” Tagg told the newspaper.
Chris Salzmann
January 21st, 2013
1:45 pm
stands for decibels @ 1:39 pm:
Tell me, [President Obama], who said that?
Mitt Romney. It was in all the papers.
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Romney who? LOL I had totally forgotten about that guy! But you’re right. The right-wing has this wonderful gift of selective amnesia. Must come from living in an echo chamber.
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
1:49 pm
I had totally forgotten about that guy!
It is a bit cruel, but I happened upon this wee blast from the past the other day and I am a bit ashamed to admit it brought tears to my eyes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTCRwi71_ns
Pizzaman
January 21st, 2013
1:49 pm
All that happened was the President was sworn in for 4 more years and the Obama/Democrat bashers are our in full force here and @ Kyle. And, as usual, most, if not all, of their “claims” are bull. But consider the source.
I sure hope Hillary runs in ‘16. Boortz will jump out of retirement.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
1:50 pm
Granny
Count on you to miss the point
I don’t eat at mcdonald’s
Granny Godzilla
January 21st, 2013
1:51 pm
What will the next four years hold?
January 21st, 2013
1:43 pm
During President Obama’s first term, the amount of participants on food stamps, formally known as the Supplemental Assistance Nutrition Program (SNAP), increased approximately 11,133 persons per day.
When Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, the number of SNAP participants was 31,939,110. That same figure has since jumped to 47,525,329 as of October 2012, the latest month that data are available.
.
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.
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Yep, the GOP made lots of poor people, and the democrats simply don’t think they should be left to die.
YOU GOTTA PROBLEM WITH THAT?
Jm
January 21st, 2013
1:52 pm
Oscar
We cook all the time, 1000x healthier than just about any restaurant food
Eat out once every two weeks for a nice dinner
wideawake
January 21st, 2013
1:53 pm
Obama 2-Terms as oppose to old man Bush 1-term.
Congratulations, Obama / Biden 2012 and beyond
rightwingextreme
January 21st, 2013
1:53 pm
F. Sinkwich
January 21st, 2013
12:09 pm
Next four years? More of the same:
War on fossil fuels.
War on the productive and successful.
Demonization of the right.
Stifling regulations.
High unemployment.
Blaming Bush.
Uncontrolled government spending.
Fawning media.
Etc.
That was easy!
Don’t forget:
gut the Second Amendment!
Chris Salzmann
January 21st, 2013
1:53 pm
What will the next four years hold? @ 1:43 pm: During President Obama’s first term, the amount of participants on food stamps, formally known as the Supplemental Assistance Nutrition Program (SNAP), increased approximately 11,133 persons per day.
When Obama was inaugurated in January 2009, the number of SNAP participants was 31,939,110. That same figure has since jumped to 47,525,329 as of October 2012, the latest month that data are available.
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Facts are painful but what the heck. Here you go: http://www.factcheck.org/2012/01/newts-faulty-food-stamp-claim/
I know you CONS have a strong dislike for the facts. I can see why you all were so shocked when President Obama won……again, after FOX News was telling you otherwise.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
1:53 pm
Granny
You’re delusional
No one dies from starvation in this country
Jm
January 21st, 2013
1:55 pm
Obama will be blaming Bush in 2016 and so will the democrat nominee
Broken record democrats
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
1:55 pm
An extra-large fainting couch for Mr. extreme please!
Jm
January 21st, 2013
1:57 pm
Granny
Obama’s speech was as nutritious for the brains as a big Mac and some super salted fries
Chris Salzmann
January 21st, 2013
1:59 pm
stands for decibels @ 1:49 pm
I had totally forgotten about that guy!
It is a bit cruel, but I happened upon this wee blast from the past the other day and I am a bit ashamed to admit it brought tears to my eyes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTCRwi71_ns
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OMG!!! I almost pooped in my pants watching this!!! That blond who plays Romney’s wife is a dead ringer for Ann Romney!!!
THANK YOU!!!
Granny Godzilla
January 21st, 2013
2:02 pm
jm
nope, no delusion here.
CDC (which tracks it as malnutrition ) shows 2790 in 2010
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
2:03 pm
No one dies from starvation in this country
Yes, it’s a work of fiction, but…there wa a good bit about that sort of semantic hair splitting in The Hunger Games. To summarize: Nobody ever died of starvation in District 12, either. Officially.
Anyway, as for some more verifiable figures on foot insecurity, if you care:
http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/err-economic-research-report/err141.aspx
Granny Godzilla
January 21st, 2013
2:04 pm
Granny Godzilla Your comment is awaiting moderation.
January 21st, 2013
1:54 pm
jm
count on you to make a silly point…
length of time in a fast food line as a judgement for an inauguration speech….
F. Sinkwich
January 21st, 2013
2:04 pm
No quotes, huh?
Figures…
DannyX
January 21st, 2013
2:05 pm
“Obama will be blaming Bush in 2016 and so will the democrat nominee”
I wonder if Bush will be allowed to speak at the 2016 Republican convention. Do you think the RNC will seek out another restraining order that requires Bush to not come within 10 miles of the convention arena?
josef
January 21st, 2013
2:06 pm
Is it over yet?
TBS
I hadn’t seen they had sent the first flight in…I have been following their contingency plans for evacuating their citizens. A considerable number have already left under their own steam.
Dharma Bum
January 21st, 2013
2:08 pm
Meh, the 2009 inauguration was incredibly exciting and emitted a palpable sense of hope that things might turn around somewhat. 2013… not so much. It feels more like reality has taken its toll on everyone.
By 2020, we will have lost two decades to irresponsible partisan leadership from the Republicans and Democrats.
LastAmericanInAmerica
January 21st, 2013
2:09 pm
Glad to see so many obama-loving deadbeats here, as opposed to being at work. Because of past spending, and now, new spending on the deadbeats of America, thanks to obama, we’re beyond broke.Just what the obama supporters wanted. Welcome to obamaland, home of high taxes & a new depression.
indigo
January 21st, 2013
2:10 pm
F. Sinkwich
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704050204576219073867182108.html
Chris Salzmann
January 21st, 2013
2:12 pm
F. Sinkwich @ 2:04 pm : No quotes, huh? Figures…
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Wow……….you expect us to serve up the facts on a platter, don’t you??? Go google it and you’ll find plenty of quotes from your right-wing echo chamber.
Enjoy the heartburn for the next 4 years!!!
Chris Salzmann
January 21st, 2013
2:12 pm
F. Sinkwich @ 2:04 pm : No quotes, huh? Figures…
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Wow……….you expect us to serve up the facts on a platter, don’t you??? Go google it and you’ll find plenty of quotes from your right-wing echo chamber. I just gave you one quote and there are plenty more.
Enjoy the heartburn for the next 4 years!!!
Mick
January 21st, 2013
2:13 pm
sink
“Social Security, Medicare … do not make us a nation of takers””
**Tell me, O’bozo, who said that?*
Jm says it more than enough except instead of takers, people are thiefs…
In the middle
January 21st, 2013
2:14 pm
Thanks to the wonderful policies of Obama, I have one week left in my job. Unemployed with little to no hope of finding another job. This president has completely destroyed private enterprise. I am worn out. As you on the left only care about ideological oppression, real people are being hurt.
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
2:16 pm
“What will the next 4 years bring?”
I’m gonna go out on a limb and make a not so bold prediction. More debt. Lots more.
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
2:17 pm
Unemployed with little to no hope of finding another job.
It’s called personal responsibility. Obviously you made some bad choices.
Atlanta Native
January 21st, 2013
2:17 pm
All the “poor” people I see should be on a diet. WE are ranked 5th in the world for the most obese males and 8th for females. This is a country of fat, lazy, entitled people. Four more years means more FREE cheese in the Mousetrap.
Mick
January 21st, 2013
2:20 pm
If the economy starts rolling, debt will start moving in the other direction. Trends look good, New york and new jersey will be rebuilding, here in s. florida cranes are all over the place, thats how you attack the debt – jobs
Mad Max
January 21st, 2013
2:20 pm
The difference between this inaugural address and the last one is that Obama now has a history in office. The next four years will be more of the same:
-consistently high unemployment/underemployment- particularly for recent graduates and minorities.
- wages for the people who are employed will continue to go down as regulatory costs are passed on to employees.
- welfare roles will dramatically expand as the emergency safety net becomes standard operating procedure rather than a temporary measure
- taxes will continue to increase for the middle class as Obama has to pay for the entitlement programs
- the tax code will get even more complex as new taxes are created (and their corollary tax credits). A carbon tax will start in the name of global warming. Of course the institutions most affected by this tax have already purchased carbon tax credits making the new taxes passed on to the consumer.
- the spread between the haves and have nots will continue to widen because the wealthy have access to advice to circumvent increased taxes in a lobbyist designed tax code.
-The American dream of homeownership will continue to be less accesible for 1st time homeowners because of tighter credit criteria and larger down payments required by Dodd-Frank.
- There will be no grand bargain of consequence because Obama does not have the ability to unify a bipartisan coalition even on issues both parties agree on.
- there will continue to be administration scandals particularly involving alternative energy projects and the NLRB.
- right to work states with low tax burdens will continue to outperform.
- terrorists will continue to threaten world peace because they perceive Obama to represent the end of Pax Americana.
- After the platitudes of today’s speach, the SOTU address will go back to name calling and accusations because that’s how Obama rolls (remember Obama blasting the supreme court).
Like it or not, that’s Obama’s history for the past four years- take credit for other people’s successes and blame others for any and all failures.
Living With Open Eyes
January 21st, 2013
2:23 pm
Indigo – We DO have many manufacturing jobs in the United States. Manufacturing computer data and financial data. PLENTY of manufacturing jobs for EVERYONE. WE JUST ALL need to go back to school. LOL!
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
2:23 pm
Native, sing it brother!
In the middle is all ears!
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
2:24 pm
Good grief. We got another liberal fainting goat who seems to think that without food stamps that millions would be “left to die” by the republicans. They do love they drama they do.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
2:25 pm
@MadMax
Your first bullet in your diatribe is factually invalid as is all the other things that you cite..
In the middle
January 21st, 2013
2:25 pm
JAMVET. Easy to take cheap shots. Quit being a jerk. You must be a lib
Mick
January 21st, 2013
2:28 pm
mad
Pessimistic, narrow, and mostly a fictional account of the past four years. That is the republican myopia – mostly blinded by their dislike of obama and an almost mythical but generally accepted narrative. It’s why they are the losers today, too much untruths and stubborn thinking.
America will be fine, nice to know you will be squirming for another four years…
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
2:28 pm
middle, I apologize.
No need for me to act like a Republican…
GT
January 21st, 2013
2:28 pm
Atlanta Native and you think that is just the poor? That’s like saying all poor people are great athletes and the rich are just too lazy to excel.
In the middle
January 21st, 2013
2:30 pm
Jamvet – As an FYI – I have been working for over 40 years…I have spent thousands of hours in school getting new training. The problem, I am over 55. That makes me almost unemployable. I was in the military, raised my family, paid taxes, did all the right things. Having a pansy like you take a cheap shot is a clear demonstration of everything wrong with this country.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
2:31 pm
Jay
January 21st, 2013
12:08 pm
Jay
My bad regarding legacy. I’ve been splitting time between EJ Dionne and you. No you have not opined on ultimate legacy…
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
2:31 pm
Atlanta native do have a point he do. Some of those poor people on food stamps need to diet a but. They tend to have butts the size of Texas.
Butch Cassidy (I)
January 21st, 2013
2:32 pm
In the Middle – “Thanks to the wonderful policies of Obama, I have one week left in my job. Unemployed with little to no hope of finding another job.”
I guess it’s a good thing he got those UI benefits extended again. Be sure to send him a thank you card.
josef
January 21st, 2013
2:32 pm
middle
My sympathies and good luck in the search…
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
2:35 pm
“I have been working for over 40 years…I have spent thousands of hours in school getting new training. The problem, I am over 55. That makes me almost unemployable”
and I retired after 40 years service. Got rehired and worked another 3 years, then got laid off. Got hired by another company within 10 months and am still employed and just got a promotion. I’ve been with this company 7 years and I’m about to turn 62.
It’s not your age holding you back.
Regnad Kcin
January 21st, 2013
2:36 pm
“Atlanta native do have a point he do. Some of those poor people on food stamps need to diet a but. They tend to have butts the size of Texas.”
Mr. Doom, are poor people ugly, too? or just fat?
Mick
January 21st, 2013
2:36 pm
middle
My brother is in the same boat, but he’s not blaming obama. He had to go where the work is and oddly enough he’s in south carolina working six tens. Yes, he is separated from family and children but you do what you have to do. He is 56…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
2:37 pm
MADMAX
I think you did a great job covering all of our concerns..one of which I would add to:
terrorists will continue to threaten world peace because they perceive Obama to represent the end of Pax Americana.
Our continued emperialistic modus operandi has more opportunity to expand over the next 4 years and since every president can’t resist using our overpriced defense capabilities, he will continue to send drones killing innocents in the process and further fueling the fans of USA hatred…
The Thin Guy
January 21st, 2013
2:38 pm
The farce in Washington reminds real Americans of what it felt like to be French in 1940 watching the German troops goose step through the streets of Paris. The former United States has devolved into a kakistocracy under the epic mismanagement of those two worthless fools The Indonesian Imbecile and The Delaware Dummy. The outlook for 2013 is the usual bleak doom featuring high unemployment, stagnant economic growth, out of control spending, loss of personal rights as the vile tyrants in charge shred The Constitution. The only glimmer of hope is in 2014 when zerøØcare is shoved down our throats by the tyrannical Kenyan Nincompoop which will totally destroy our healthcare system and economy leading to riots and, hopefully, armed revolution. There is no other hope.
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
2:40 pm
Regnad,
I haven’t seen any empirical data connecting poverty with obesity AND ugliness. But my anecdotal observations do tend to show a correlation between being poor, ugly, and fat.
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
2:42 pm
Oscar, I agree COMPLETELY that they were bad loans. Do you not understand that we were practically BEGGED by Fannie Mae to sign them?!? My company sold those loans IMMEDIATELY because we KNEW they were bad. If my company had to assume the risk, instead of the federal government, the loans would never have been made.
I don’t understand why this concept is so difficult to grasp.
And it is worth mentioning again that the same bed wetters who cry “Greed!” now are the same people who INSISTED that we “help” less qualified applicants attain home ownership in 2005.
You reap what you sow.
Get Real
January 21st, 2013
2:43 pm
the liberal blathering on this blog has made me smile today; I thank everyone for that…
another 4 years of Obama is certainly nothing to smile about
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
2:43 pm
@middle
You narrative, unfortunately, fits many, many Americans who have worked hard, played by the rules and hoped to have a comfortable retirement with dignity.
I can not see any policy that has been advocated by, or, proposed by President Obama that has been a catalyst for any of the items that has caused you concern.
Hang in and continue to be optimistic.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
2:43 pm
Jay
January 21st, 2013
1:37 pm
My god Jay, cry me a river. The guy gives good speech but he certainly didn’t say anything that hasn’t been said by any before him albeit in different ways.
The little girl in poverty has a 1 in 10,000 chance at best (just guessing of course) of rising and dreaming at lofty heights primarily due to enablers disguised as entitlements…a culture that offers incentives only toward maintenance of the status quo..
I imagine many folks are touching themselves to this particular speech of course the other side did the same when it was Bush. Nothing changes except seasons..
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
2:44 pm
The Obama administration indeed proves that we are a fullblown kakistocracy. Give the Livlibs a moment to look that one up.
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
2:44 pm
“The farce in Washington reminds real Americans”
Define “real Americans”
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
2:45 pm
Fyi, oscar… fannie mae had a specific set of loan underwriting rules that we abided by. We played by THEIR rules, not our own.
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
2:46 pm
Obama do give a good speech he do. And then reality sets in.
GT
January 21st, 2013
2:46 pm
Danny X I got a feeling they will have Clint Eastwood on that no fly zone too. I would love to be a fly on the wall when the wing nuts gather to decide who gets air time for their conventions. It is probably the only honest conversation they have every four years and still Newt and Marianne still got by the filter to do their Dale and Roy routine.
The GOP says they need to get their message out, not a new one the same one that lost the last two elections, to the ones that haven’t understood them. Nothing says family values like trotting out your 3G wife or is that 4G I can’t even remember now.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 21st, 2013
2:46 pm
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
January 21st, 2013
2:37 pm
Until you wrote that, I had a better opinion of you. How do you know what terrorists think?
And President Obama is not putting our troops in danger by using drones. The terrorists we are after are such cowards that they hide among the “innocent”. Yes, lives are lost and will continue to be lost until the population sends them on their way. Try to find “The Ugly American”
By William J. Lederer and Eugene Burdick
Written back in ‘58, but it tells a good story and gives you an idea just how long America has been disliked.
Get over it and lend a hand to help our people like Middle get a job, or get out of the way.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
2:47 pm
Class of ‘98
January 21st, 2013
2:42 pm
Most folks have a tendency to overlook the devastating impact of the rating agencies who didn’t take time to carefully get into these “packages” and perform diligence above the criminally negligent that was the case.
Dodd Frank only keeps the too big to fail protected by taxpayers safetynet…(hey…kinda like our government…) and no one wants to own that..just like the rating agencies don’t have to own up to the AAA ratings of those trash bags of loans…
godless heathen
January 21st, 2013
2:48 pm
here in s. florida cranes are all over the place,
Of course, silly. It’s winter. They fly back north in the spring.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
2:50 pm
Kcin, I would expect that most of that “evidence” being touted to you is from his experience looking in the mirror. As many but the very simple minded know, most of the “cheapest food” available to the poor often is the most unhealthy. And there are a number of causes of obesity, including chemicals used by manufacturers. But when you’re entire life is distorted by pompous assenisity, its easy to post absurd claims about poor people.
Recon 0311 2533
January 21st, 2013
2:51 pm
What will the next four years hold….hopefully not an irreversible turn around from the destruction of the USA that began in his first term.
Mick
January 21st, 2013
2:52 pm
thin
**Hopefully, armed revolution**
Look, we survived eight long years of bush and how did it end? Bankrupt and the economy reeling, look where we are at today and your advocating armed revolution?
Even though I greatly disliked the previous president and his policies, the level of hate an unhinged thought regarding president obama is an embarassment to the country and the american way…
Chris Salzmann
January 21st, 2013
2:52 pm
F. Sinkwich @ 2:04 pm : No quotes, huh? Figures…
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The jab was at Paul Ryan. Here’s Paul Ryan’s quote and the entire video is attached:
“So we’re going to a majority of takers versus makers.”
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/paul-ryans-47-percent-takers-vs-makers-video
Now to take a quote from Downton Abbey “Now sit down and be silent, Sir!”.
Sound advice Sinkwich. Stop digging while you’re ahead.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
2:53 pm
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am…I think.
January 21st, 2013
2:46 pm
Sorry to disappoint but the way I see our continued war mongering justified by some absurd notion that our shores are at risk is not only a huge waste of money but shows no change in our imperialistic ways. No different from France and Vietnam and now Mali…any president who decides to push an agenda to keep our noses firmly out of others tents will me my hero.
It seems to me that the lower middle class who is suffering so would benefit greatly from a few hundred billion annually that we should shake loose from our BS defense efforts…we haven’t fought a war since WWII that we needed to lose lives over.
We shouldn’t be sending drones period and who are you to suggest that an innocent life over there is worth less than one of ours?
RCH
January 21st, 2013
2:53 pm
Hopefully Impeachment and a double cell for Prez BO and Bite me.
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
2:53 pm
It’s official. Micks anecdotal evidence of some migrating cranes confirms that all along we’ve been in the midst of an enormous building boom. We just didn’t know it.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
2:54 pm
@Recon
Please articulate some of the points that you cite to determine will cause the destruction of the USA.
Don Abernethy
January 21st, 2013
2:54 pm
Next four years? Our country may not make it another 4 years under this administration.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
2:54 pm
Our cons still think facts don’t matter and are just typing bs.
That will not change.
They will stay the course to give our President the house.
Butch Cassidy (I)
January 21st, 2013
2:55 pm
Don Abernathy – “Our country may not make it another 4 years under this administration.”
Oh my, sounds serious. When are you leaving?
josef
January 21st, 2013
2:55 pm
GOOD FIGHT
“assenisity”
Great one!
Don Abernethy
January 21st, 2013
2:56 pm
Jay can repeat his attack on conservatives but when we try to defend ourselves the liberal AJC says sorry “duplicate statement”.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
2:57 pm
Oh look, the groundhog preppers have poked their heads out for the inauguration and seen their shadows of destruction. Back into the hidey hole for 4 more years.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
2:57 pm
don the con,
ODS much?
BlahBlahBlah
January 21st, 2013
2:57 pm
Our Federal Government perpetually spends $1 trillion more a year than it collects in taxes, with seemingly no end in sight to that pattern. By definition, I think that DOES make us a nation of takers.
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
2:58 pm
“but when we try to defend ourselves the liberal AJC says sorry “duplicate statement”.”
You only need to click “Submit comment” one time
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
2:59 pm
What’s this talk about war mongering? A Nobel peace prize winner would never drone bomb civilians. Nevuh!Ooo
Recon 0311 2533
January 21st, 2013
3:00 pm
Jackie, the ignored debt crises, a continued fragile economy and the ACA.
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:00 pm
Are we really getting into the housing crisis? Here’s what you need to know about the causes and what did NOT cause it:
Fannie and Freddie and CRA and Democrats and Barney Frank and “Affordable Housing” and “Affirmative Action” did NOT cause the housing crash:
Fannie, Freddie, and the CRA are Not Responsible for the Financial Crisis
www. cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-39741513/fannie-freddie-and-the-cra-are-not-responsible-for-the-financial-crisis/
“The second explanation, one pushed by free market advocates, is that government involvement in housing markets to encourage home ownership caused the financial market problems. In this story of the crisis, the Community Reinvestment Act, Fannie and Freddie, Democrats promoting home ownership, and the middle and low income households that received home loans they couldn’t afford are cast as the villains. Had government stepped out of the way and pursued laissez-faire policies, the crisis would not have happened.
“However, the evidence does not support the second explanation. First, with respect to the CRA, the main culprits in the crisis were private sector financial institutions that were not subject to the requirements of the CRA. In the story being pushed by free market advocates, the CRA forced banks to make loans to unqualified, low-income households. When those loans blew up, it caused the financial crisis. But the largest players in the subprime market were private sector firms that were not subject to the CRA’s rules and regulations. For example, “Only one of the top 25 subprime lenders in 2006 was directly subject to the housing law that’s being lambasted by conservative critics.” The largest losses had nothing to do with banks covered by the CRA.
“Second, even if the banks themselves were subject to the CRA, not all loans that they made were covered by these rules. Even in banks where the CRA applied, most of the problems were in loans that did not fall under the CRA’s jurisdiction.
“Third, the CRA has been in existence since 1977. If the CRA was responsible, why didn’t the crisis occur sooner? The timing simply doesn’t match up.
“Fourth, the CRA only applies to domestic firms, but the crisis occurred in many countries. If the CRA is the problem, why did countries that had nothing like the CRA experience similar problems?
“Fifth, even if this story had any validity, both parties promoted an “ownership society,” so blaming Democrats alone is about politics, not reality.
“Thus, the evidence against the claim that the CRA was an important factor in the financial crisis is quite strong and, turning next to Fannie and Freddie, the evidence here is also compelling. ”
…
Conclusions Of The Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission
fcic-static. law.stanford.edu/cdn_media/fcic-reports/fcic_final_report_conclusions.pdf
“We conclude that these two entities contributed to the crisis, but were not a primary cause. Importantly, GSE [government-sponsored enterprises, i.e., Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac] mortgage securities essentially maintained their value throughout the crisis and did not contribute to the significant financial firm losses that were central to the financial crisis. ”
….
Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis
www. mcclatchydc.com/2008/10/12/53802/private-sector-loans-not-fannie.html
“Commentators say [a government push to make housing more affordable to Americans of more modest means is] what triggered the stock market meltdown and the freeze on credit. They’ve specifically targeted the mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which the federal government seized on Sept. 6, contending that lending to poor and minority Americans caused Fannie’s and Freddie’s financial problems.
“Federal housing data reveal that the charges aren’t true, and that the private sector, not the government or government-backed companies, was behind the soaring subprime lending at the core of the crisis.
“Subprime lending offered high-cost loans to the weakest borrowers during the housing boom that lasted from 2001 to 2007. Subprime lending was at its height from 2004 to 2006.
“Federal Reserve Board data show that:
-More than 84 percent of the subprime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending institutions.
-Private firms made nearly 83 percent of the subprime loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers that year.
-Only one of the top 25 subprime lenders in 2006 was directly subject to the housing law that’s being lambasted by conservative critics.”
….
A global view of the housing bubble
www. mckinseyquarterly.com/newsletters/chartfocus/2009_10.htm
“Although the current crisis started with the bursting of the US housing bubble, other economies around the world are feeling the effects of their own real-estate booms and busts. From 2000 through 2007, a remarkable run-up in global home prices occurred (see exhibit). But that trend has reversed abruptly. In 2008, the value of US residential real estate fell 10 percent; the global average fared only somewhat better, declining by almost 4 percent. We estimate that falling home prices erased more than $3.4 trillion of household wealth in 2008. And because home prices are slow to correct, the current slide may persist for some time, which could depress global consumption.”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
3:01 pm
Can anyone tell me one thing this guy said today that was different than all his promises in 2008? Immigration, the “I will bring us together..”, Medicare and SS makes us not takers…(I agree but wait until we get to the point were only 2 workers are supporting one SS retiree), global warming/climate change….he should have thrown in reducing lobbyist influence in DC but I guess he learned last time that even he can’t survive without private money…
more of the same….promises, promises….
middle of the road
January 21st, 2013
3:01 pm
“I’m gonna go out on a limb and make a not so bold prediction. More debt. Lots more.”
I think that is a pretty sure bet. The thing is, it would be the same if Romney had won. It would be the same if both houses of congress were Republican AND Romney won.
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:01 pm
Any conservative who makes statements about armed revolution and/or civil war and then turns around and says it’s really “the left” that is full of hatred and causing all the problems of division and so on in this country, needs their head examined.
mm
January 21st, 2013
3:04 pm
More con beatings until morale improves.
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
3:05 pm
“then turns around and says it’s really “the left” that is full of hatred and causing all the problems of division and so on in this country, needs their head examined”
Heck, they’re just using the same mindset that leads them to say Obama is “the most divisive President ever” They get a D President. Vow to make him a one-termer. But it’s HIS fault they’re divisive. Typical. They’re the only ones NOT at fautl. Din’tcha know that?
BADA BING (imagine an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class this place up a little)
January 21st, 2013
3:05 pm
A person stabbed at the Dome after the Atlanta game? I thought Ray Lewis was in New England.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
3:05 pm
@Recon
If you will examine those items that you articulated, it appears they all fall under the prevue of the House of Representatives, the controllers of the spending in our government.
Jase
January 21st, 2013
3:06 pm
What will the next four years hold? A few Americans will have that “I cannot believe I just stepped in dog poop” feeling. Many more Americans will have that “I cannot believe I stepped in dog poop again” feeling. The remaining majority of Americans will just walk around with dog poop on their shoes – thinking dog poop is a good thing. Long story short, we may be eating dog poop in the next four years – having been convinced by our leader(s) that dog poop tastes like chicken.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
3:06 pm
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:00 pm
To your post before noon re what BO could do to enhance minority unemployment..I trust MLK would be looking at improving edcuation and offering more technical training…of course they all promise that but never really do anything but throw money at solutions that don’t address the problems..
To your most recent, I don’t know exactly how the packaged notes traded and insured at less than 2% in the market compare in numbers to Freddie and Fannie, but the rating agencies IMO are the most glaring cause that no one wants to surface. Of course they are held harmless from any consequences of under researched ratings…
obamaSINLADEN
January 21st, 2013
3:07 pm
stupid question. we all know the answer to that. tribulation.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:07 pm
“The thing is, it would be the same if Romney had won”
False
Speculative
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
3:08 pm
Yeah, Adam if it’s on the internet, it MUST be true.
Bonjour.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
January 21st, 2013
3:09 pm
Yall lost. A black man is starting his second term as President of the United States of America.
I know that lots of people don’t agree but it is what it is, and its time to do what yall told us to do for years, respect the office even if you don;t like the man in it. Failure to do that shows us how little character you possess.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
3:09 pm
middle of the road
January 21st, 2013
3:01 pm
Of course..but Romney wasn’t elected and our guy has zero real iron clad spending reduction agenda that will ever be realized. Politically too dangerous to his beloved party. That blaring noise you hear coming from the East…its the roar of the Chinese and other US debt holders’ delight that we are guaranteed to require a minimum of $4 trillion in credit capacity….maybe they will even get a couple more basis points this time around….
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
3:09 pm
Monger alert
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
3:12 pm
Interesting read considering how smug BO supporters are about his approval rating..
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_vs_bush_election_day_job_approval.html
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:14 pm
Stevie
Not if the fed keeps printing money (basis points)
Of course one day we will get to suffer the effects of much higher inflation
By that time Obama will probably be gone and they will blame it on cons somehow
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
3:16 pm
Thin Guy: “The only glimmer of hope is in 2014 when zerøØcare is shoved down our throats by the tyrannical Kenyan Nincompoop which will totally destroy our healthcare system ”
Destroy our healthcare system?
Which healthcare system? The one that’s private-market based and which through Obama’s ACA had its privatized profit model locked in for generations to come? That the one that’s getting “destroyed”?
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
3:16 pm
Adam,
You’re forgetting that a lot of these private lending institutions began making loans under the threat of lawsuits if they didn’t lend more to minorities. For 100 years banks had a profitable business of lending to credit worthy applicants. And then all of a sudden they start making all kinds of crazy loans? Why? Cause of greed? As if they were never greedy in the previous century of lending? Lending intuitions were pressured into making loans that they had historically never made and that is the root cause of the crisis whether folks want to admit it or not.
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
3:17 pm
Respect the office? Yeah because dims are SO good at that.
No “Bushitler” signs, no nightly “Great Moments in Presidential Speeches” on Letterman, no hearty laughs from the left when Bush ducked a thrown shoe.
Nope, none of that ever happened. Dims were always 100% respectful towards Bush. Always.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:17 pm
Doom
Don’t bother
They will never learn
Mick
January 21st, 2013
3:18 pm
doom heathen
Yes, those cranes are popping up all over the place and by spring even more cranes are expected…you’ll really don’t want to hear good news about jobs do you? Kind of messes up your never ending gloom and doom narratives; I’m just glad that things are starting to open up down here in paradise…
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:18 pm
I wonder what the beast can do
Shoot missiles?
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
3:19 pm
Class of ‘98: ” It is one of the great fallacies of our age that “greedy wall street bankers” caused the economic crisis”
Yeah, it’s up there alright.
Right up there with old standards like crime, it’s all the fault of the criminals, or, gangsterism, it’s all the fault of the gangsters. Just totally doesn’t follow, lol.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:19 pm
Mick
The FL economy is very different than the GA economy
Thank tea party Scott versus congressional dirtbag Deal
Johobo777
January 21st, 2013
3:20 pm
Another four years with an unintelligent, bigoted so-called black man as our ‘leader’. Shame.obama has proven he has no problem solving skills, hates America and since he’s never really worked a day in his life, he can’t manage the position he’s in. I will pray for his failure in everything he does.
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
3:20 pm
it will be interesting to see how our heath care system plays out. i see insurance premiums going up even more. companies dropping helth coverage and paying the tax. youn peopl paying the tax and people that ca not afford heath insurance still not buying it because they can’t affor it.
thn what. who knows?
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 21st, 2013
3:20 pm
What will the next four years hold?
THE OCEANS WILL RECEDE
AND THE WEALTH WILL BE SPREAD
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
3:21 pm
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:14 pm
Yeah, I understand the we have gone from 800 billion in circulation to 2 trillion….more cash more debt more debt service, less revenues and vastly increased citizen obligations going forward…other than that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
3:22 pm
Inflation occurs when too many dollars chase too few goods.
Given that are economy is working at a diminished capacity, meaning we have slack in the economic capacity, inflation will not occur with the printing of money – the medium of exchange – with the US dollar being the bellwether.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 21st, 2013
3:22 pm
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
3:20 pm
it will be interesting to see how our heath care system plays out. i see insurance premiums going up even more. companies dropping helth coverage and paying the tax. youn peopl paying the tax and people that ca not afford heath insurance still not buying it because they can’t affor it.
thn what. who knows?
====================================================================
THATS WHAT LIBERALS WANT…………..
then when it hits the fan they can give the solution they’ve wanted all along
ONLY THE FEDERAL GOVT CAN DO HEALTHCARE SO THEREFORE WE NEED A SINGLE PAYER
TBS
January 21st, 2013
3:23 pm
“Lending intuitions were pressured into making loans that they had historically never made and that is the root cause of the crisis whether folks want to admit it or not.”
They were pressured into giving 400k loans to individuals making 100k? And other crazy examples along those lines
And then bundling these loans and trading them as if the sky was the limits? They were pressured under threat of lawsuit?
Without a doubt there are sure of a lot of “starter homes” where individuals didn’t pay, but anytime you like let me know when you want to take a drive to Buckhead, Alpharetta, Peachtree City, Suwanee, Cumming, etc. Lot of high end foreclosures and houses that were started and never completed
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
3:23 pm
Dissent is patriotic. I heard that about ten gazillion times from the left 2000-2008. And I don’t respect BHO. I think he is a snake oil salesman who is really, really good at telling envious, self-pitying, ignorant people what that want to hear in order to realize his own personal ambition.
Stalin called them “useful idiots”. Obama, to his credit, has made full use of them.
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
3:24 pm
class. i understand your delimina. i was in the real estate industry and saw first hand what was going on.
it helps your conscience to blame someone else for the faact that you and your company made bad loans and passed the losses on to some one else. selling bad loans represented as good loans constites fraud, and no one wants to admi to that.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
3:24 pm
cons,
When are you going to fix your failed party and failed ideology?
You have to move left out of rw radical extremist territory.
Mick
January 21st, 2013
3:25 pm
jm
Thank rick the disaster scott? The fool who tried to suppress the vote? I think we should be thanking the precious capitalist system and the demand for more high rises fueled by brazilians and their love of florida. Thank the genting corporation that will demolish the old miami herald building and start work on a $300 million dollar destination resort.
You have a lot to learn about florida my friend, one thing is an almost certainty, rick the disaster scott is a one termer…
Jay
January 21st, 2013
3:26 pm
Wow, the second inaugural has brought the irrational Obama haters out of the closet again, I see. The whole bunch must have been weaned with vinegar.
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
3:26 pm
“Lending intuitions”
Maybe they should have relied on due diligence instead of intuitions
Atlanta Native
January 21st, 2013
3:26 pm
Jase…Mark Twain said what you said….“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:27 pm
Oscar re healthcare I think you’re right
“inflation will not occur with the printing of money”
Until said slack is gone. Then inflation will rear its very ugly head
TBS
January 21st, 2013
3:28 pm
Hey man, this is Joe over at Wachovia in Atlanta, how are things going? yeah you got it. Government is on my ass to sell these bundles. They are going to sue us if we don’t. I will send the info right over, hoping to close out this trade today.
Thanks again.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:29 pm
Mick
He may be a one termer
But he’s done a good job turning around the FL economy
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
3:30 pm
@Class
How do you make a determination that those who support President Obama are self-pitying and ignorant people who want to hear anything the President has to say?
Curious?
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:30 pm
Class of ‘98: Yeah, Adam if it’s on the internet, it MUST be true.
Bonjour.
A useless dismissal of investigative journalism.
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
3:30 pm
uncle – that is a real possibility for the future. not the only one. there could be another outcome. insurance companies offering policies with hih deductables. doctors and hospitals charging less.
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:32 pm
Thulsa Doom: You’re forgetting that a lot of these private lending institutions began making loans under the threat of lawsuits if they didn’t lend more to minorities.
How can I forget something that never happened?
Or do you have sourced material that shows this is why the private lenders decided to lend, and not the packaging scheme?
Elections Have Consequences
January 21st, 2013
3:32 pm
“Obama II: What will the next four years hold?”
Munch’s ‘The Scream’ comes to mind…
Atlanta Native
January 21st, 2013
3:32 pm
Jay….we are doing exactly what you wanted….you threw in the grenade…we are ALL just arguing over what the next 4 years hold.
josef
January 21st, 2013
3:32 pm
IMAM
Kind funny what comes out of the closet at the strangest times, isn’t it?
DOGGONE
Beat me to it!
getalife
January 21st, 2013
3:33 pm
cantor just shot down the corporate media “liberal” theme and said we do need to come together to help the other Americans not just the wealthy.
That is a shift in ideology from the gop if they actually do it.
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:34 pm
Munch’s ‘The Scream’ comes to mind…
Oh, you mean like this?
https://www.commondreams.org/files/images/edtoon.jpg
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:34 pm
Liberals re-elect people who do a crummy job and vote against successful governmental administrators
Consistent with their philosophy I suppose
Support losers and beat up winners
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
3:35 pm
We did nothing illegal, Oscar, because we didn’t have to.
“Bad” loans and “fraudulent” loans are not necessarily the same thing. Uncle Sam was perfectly happy with the loans we signed. And we were “helping” people realize the American dream of home ownership.
Don’t blame me because your holy federal government made bad decisions.
Madmax
January 21st, 2013
3:35 pm
Hope they are better than the 1st term.
DannyX
January 21st, 2013
3:36 pm
“Thanks to the wonderful policies of Obama, I have one week left in my job.”
in the middle, PBS is hiring. Great paying government jobs. Tell ‘em Nathan sent you.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:37 pm
“cantor just shot down the corporate media “liberal” theme and said we do need to come together to help the other Americans not just the wealthy.
That is a shift in ideology from the gop if they actually do it.”
Not a shift in ideology silly
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 21st, 2013
3:37 pm
oscar
do the math………………. when the wave of baby boomers hits medicare…………… and the lack of NEW primary care physicians worsens with retirements of existing doctors………………. then the reduction of payments to doctors for medicare…………. we have a predictable outcome for healthcare…………..
neither republicans nor democrats have addressed that…….. they spout their rhetoric…………. and we have never had an HONEST discussion of healthcare……..
for example
5% of patients account for half of health care spending
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-01-11/health-care-costs-11/52505562/1
MAYBE FINDING A SOLUTION TO THAT WOULD BE A START TO BRINGING HEALTHCARE COSTS DOWN
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:37 pm
Class of ‘98: Uncle Sam was perfectly happy with the loans we signed.
Bull puckey.
If your contention is they were “ok” with it then it must also be your contention that when the government does NOT have a regulation or law against something, that it approves of whatever activity happens within the bounds of the law.
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:38 pm
Jm: Liberals re-elect people who do a crummy job and vote against successful governmental administrators
Your Psychological Projection is showing…. failing upwards is a hallmark of the right, not the left.
Mick
January 21st, 2013
3:39 pm
jm
Only a rookie floridian such as yourself would give rick scott credit for “turning around our economy”, utterly ridiculous. Tourism drives this economy and as the nation recovers, so does tourism to florida. Not to mention, a great place to retire, rick scott has done nothing of substance…
Jay
January 21st, 2013
3:39 pm
“You’re forgetting that a lot of these private lending institutions began making loans under the threat of lawsuits if they didn’t lend more to minorities.”
Again, for the umpteenth time, the lending institutions that made the most subprime loans had nothing to do with the CRA and were not regulated by it. Community banks that WERE regulated under CRA had a much lower loan failure rate than the mortgage mills where ‘98 apparently worked, knowingly packaging loans that they knew would fail.
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:39 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA: do the math………………. when the wave of baby boomers hits medicare…………… and the lack of NEW primary care physicians worsens with retirements of existing doctors………………. then the reduction of payments to doctors for medicare…………. we have a predictable outcome for healthcare…………..
And your solution is to privatize it or let them die?
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:40 pm
Jay: Again, for the umpteenth time, the lending institutions that made the most subprime loans had nothing to do with the CRA and were not regulated by it. Community banks that WERE regulated under CRA had a much lower loan failure rate than the mortgage mills where ‘98 apparently worked, knowingly packaging loans that they knew would fail.
I did try to cover all this with my massive list of articles. But it appears, once again, the loons who believe that liberals and Barney Frank caused the whole problem are undeterred by FACTS!
tireofit
January 21st, 2013
3:41 pm
Hopefully, the tea party thugs will crawl back under the rock they came from so this country can move forward.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 21st, 2013
3:41 pm
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
January 21st, 2013
2:53 pm
Stevie ray,
About military spending, I think I can agree with you that we spend way too much that would be better used elsewhere,
But as to if I think American lives are worth more than others, well, in a big sense, yes.
As long as I can remember, we have been sending American youth into harms way and for the most part, in my way of thinking, as a human sacrifice to the Military Industrial Complex.
It is wrong. If we are to feed the MIC with big money, then let it be just greenbacks and not American blood.
Jay
January 21st, 2013
3:41 pm
I was about to write that many of those posting anti-Obama tirades here have no idea how irrelevant such obsessions have made them, politically speaking. The country has moved on. However, I’m not sure that’s true. I think that some of them DO sense it, which helps to explain the anger and frustration.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:42 pm
Mick
No economy is 100% at the whim of the government (not yet anyway)
Scott has done several things that have helped out business, he’s encouraged investment, and a democrat could have very well screwed things up
Scott has not
Madmax
January 21st, 2013
3:42 pm
I know one thing we won’t get – spending reform and real deficit reduction. The President doesn’t believe in it and that lets Congress off the hook. That great swooshing sound is your life savings being eroded by the devaluing of the dollar.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
3:42 pm
Threats of lawsuits? Oy vey, the Justice Dept is part of the executive branch. From 2000 to 2008, controlled by Bush….. but I am sure that the conned will continue their Blame Frank (or anyone else) Tour.
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
3:43 pm
Jackie, because i listen to what BHO says. How many times have we heard him insist on making the “rich” pay their fair share? It’s funny that he never specifies what “fair share” means.
He does this for two reasons. 1) it allows the envious, self-pitying sheeple to draw their own conclusions about who is rich and how much they should pay , and 2) he knows the rich already pay their fair share and then some.
Facts about percentages and tax rates would dilute his plea, so he evades specifics at all costs.
Also, he knows there are a lot more envious, self-pityers out there than self-reliant achievers, and more people equals more votes, which means victorious elections.
He does not care about you.
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:43 pm
Con 101: If you can’t fight the facts – fight the facts anyway!
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
3:44 pm
Liberals re-elect people who do a crummy job
Like George W. Bush?
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
3:44 pm
@Class
How profound effect did credit default swaps and the collapse of AIG and Goldman Sachs have on the housing market and the world economy?
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
3:45 pm
Adam: “Con 101: If you can’t fight the facts – fight the facts anyway!”
It’s a very handy definition.
Conservatism: a rear-guard action against facts.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:45 pm
“the lending institutions that made the most subprime loans had nothing to do with the CRA and were not regulated by it”
Jay your ignorance or deception is showing
All commercial banks are subject to CRA
Wachovia. Gone
Washington Mutual. Gone
Dozens of others
TBS
January 21st, 2013
3:45 pm
Adam & Jay
It really makes no difference what is posted. As long as some can point to failures related to Fannie, Freddie or any given law that seems to be a pass for the totality of the entire picture and facts of what occurred.
Get Real
January 21st, 2013
3:45 pm
Jay…did you get a life size Obama blow up doll for Christmas?
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:46 pm
Class of ‘98: It’s funny that he never specifies what “fair share” means.
Actually he has on numerous occasions indicated exactly what this means. Guess you weren’t listening that closely.
In the words of Obama himself: “Get the transcript.”
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:47 pm
Welcome
Better than the alternative
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
3:48 pm
Adam, you clearly have no experience in how underwriting mortgages works. Just go ahead and blame Bush for everything. That’s about as deep as most liberals can think anyway.
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:48 pm
Part of what a con man does is to convince people of things that are not true. Never is it more appropriate to call a conservative a con than when they put out lies that are pretty damn obviously not true, and yet they say it over and over and over again, just like the political prescriptions in the book Mein Kampf, and hope that enough people believe it.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
3:48 pm
Information about the role and effects of the CRA
http://www.minneapolisfed.org/publications_papers/pub_display.cfm?id=4136
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:49 pm
Class of ‘98: Adam, you clearly have no experience in how underwriting mortgages works.
Personal experience does not trump statistics. Congratulations on committing the logical fallacy of the anecdotal example.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
3:49 pm
Is there a sunspot today? Sunspots have been identified in one recent study as being a contributing factor in ODS flareup.
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
3:50 pm
The credit default swaps went bad when the bad mortgages failed. It’s simple. If the mortgages were sound, the credit default swaps would have been sound as well.
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:51 pm
Class of ‘98 contends that while underwriting mortgages he feared for his life that a lawsuit would ensue if he did not make sure that poor people who couldn’t afford a mortgage were lent to.
There’s a word for that: WIMP
If what you say is true, then YOU are the cause of the housing crisis and should be very, very ashamed.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:53 pm
Class
Libs have no clue
Lesson #1
Don’t bother trying to educate them
They don’t learn
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
3:54 pm
Class of ‘98: “The credit default swaps went bad when the bad mortgages failed. It’s simple”
But why did credit default swaps exist in the first place?
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
3:54 pm
@Class
Clearly, your information about credit default swaps is lacking.
If you will look at the title, they will tell you they were intended to be a form insurance for default on loans made by lending institutions. AIG provided “insurance” for the loan contract and they did not have the reserves the back up the loans.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 21st, 2013
3:54 pm
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:39 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA: do the math………………. when the wave of baby boomers hits medicare…………… and the lack of NEW primary care physicians worsens with retirements of existing doctors………………. then the reduction of payments to doctors for medicare…………. we have a predictable outcome for healthcare…………..
And your solution is to privatize it or let them die?
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my solution is to have an HONEST talk about the complex issues involved and not have emotional reactions based “solutions”
neither you nor I nor anyone has the answers……….. but we should at least talk about the issues and come to some consensus as a nation
an example
spending millions of dollars to prolong the lives for 6 months of senior citizens who have terminal illness…………. we spend alot of money to give 6 months of NOT SO QUALITY LIFE……… with millions of baby boomers coming on board we need to be HONEST and MAKE DECISIONS about this process and where to go moving forward……… bean counters will tell of the tremendous amount of money this will take from Medicare since its an OPEN-ENDED entitlement
TBS
January 21st, 2013
3:55 pm
Jm
Tell us about the “held back” foreclosures before the election.
Probably not the biggest TALL TALE you have made on this blog, but surely one of the best…
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
3:55 pm
“The credit default swaps went bad when the bad mortgages failed. It’s simple”
Nope. they went bad when investors found out the ratings on them were artificially inflated because no one had bothered to check if the loans were good or not.
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:55 pm
Jm: Cons have no clue
Lesson #1
Don’t bother trying to educate them
They don’t learn
FYT. Wasn’t even that hard to do.
BTW, your Psychological Projection is showing again. I mean, it’s nice that you’re so self aware that you can analyze yourself that easily, but you are experiencing a psychosis attributing it to everyone else. Get help.
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
3:56 pm
Don’t bother trying to educate them
They don’t learn
Remind me next time I’m considering the ins and outs of the US automotive industry to listen solely to some guy who worked selling cars for a few years after graduatin’ college.
Class of '98
January 21st, 2013
3:57 pm
I can look up a million stats about ice hockey. That doesn’t mean I understand it.
Fannie Mae issued guidelines on approving a loan. As long as we adhered to these rules, they were happy. Everybody was happy. Deadbeats didn’t get (immediately) foreclosed, liberals were self-satisfied that the government “helped” people, and I cashed big commission checks.
Only when the deadbeats stopped paying their loans did the house of cards collapse. Don’t blame me, blame the omnipotent government you worship so much. It was their fault.
Veteran Observer
January 21st, 2013
3:58 pm
The president will accomplish NOTHING just like the last four years, because he doesn’t understand our system of government! We have a checks and balance system which he would like to dictate to and cannot work with as it means COMPROMISE! He has succeeded in the only thing he knows anything about and that is winning elections. It is very sad that we have elevated such a failure to our highest office and in the future we will speak of him rarely as we do of Mr. Carter. I hope he learns how to do his job, but I doubt it highly! We are all poorer for the experience of his presidency! It is a very sad day in America!
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:58 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA: my solution is to have an HONEST talk about the complex issues involved and not have emotional reactions based “solutions”
neither you nor I nor anyone has the answers……….. but we should at least talk about the issues and come to some consensus as a nation
I agree with this, but I think the right wing prescriptions so far are WAY off base, and do not even come close to approaching your suggestion of talking about it seriously. To be fair, any on the left who want to leave it “as is” suffer a similar problem.
TBS
January 21st, 2013
3:58 pm
Going out for a jog. By the time I get back, I’m sure Jm will have backed up his “held back” foreclosure assertion as soundly and factually as he did when he made it
peace
Jm
January 21st, 2013
3:59 pm
Adam
Are you trying to write?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
4:01 pm
Class, who did you work for and are you willing to testify about your superiors forcing you to make loans that people really were not qualified to get. Any number of shareholder attorneys and city attorneys have or are considering legal actions. So, being the stand up character you are (right?), you would be willing to testify to support those who lost their homes when the bubble popped while you and others profited.
Adam
January 21st, 2013
4:01 pm
Class of ‘98: Only when the deadbeats stopped paying their loans did the house of cards collapse.
Except that is NOT what happened. The bubble happened first, which overinflated the mortgages, etc etc. And as I have shown, Fannie had very little to do with the overall problem, and actually had a great number of mortgages that were good, especially compared to the lending practices of the unregulated private lending market. All this is in the articles I posted that you immediately dismissed because somehow your anecdotal evidence means more.
And yes, it is QUITE clear that you don’t understand the statistics.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
4:01 pm
@Class
Look up the statistics as to what percentage of sub-prime loans defaulted.
I think you will come up with 4% as the number and we all should realize that 4% of anything will not cause the other 96% to fail.
Keep in mind, this is only 4% of the sub-prime housing market, not the entire economy.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
4:03 pm
“And as I have shown, Fannie had very little to do with the overall problem, and actually had a great number of mortgages that were good”
Clearly.
That’s why they didn’t have to be taken over by the government.
Oh wait.
Liberal stupidity again.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
4:05 pm
@Veteran
How can anyone in our system of government dictate to the other branches when they are all designed to keep an eye on each other?
If the House votes for a spending bill, they only choice the President has is to veto it, or sign it into law if his veto is overridden.
Adam
January 21st, 2013
4:05 pm
That’s why they didn’t have to be taken over by the government.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Wow, Jm. Just…. wow
Mick
January 21st, 2013
4:06 pm
Yes, class you are correct and which administration and house of representatives were at the helm of loose regulation and the ownership society? Republicans.
jm
Please list all the things rick the disaster scott has done to improve florida’s economy?
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 21st, 2013
4:07 pm
y’all need to ready MANUFACTURING CONSENT
the left and right squabble while those in power have done a SLIGHT OF HAND
no one is questioning what the FED is doing………. they are buying $40 billion of mortgage backed securities per month
THINK ABOUT THAT
these are the ITEMS that got is the financial crash with credit default swaps………..
we THOUGHT with TARP that the BIG BANKS would right these down and take the loses and move forward………….
WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING………. is that they NEVER got rid of them……….. they are “SELLING” them to the FED which is the BANK OF THE BIG BANKS……………. now they can take them off their books and not incur LOSSES……………. instead the FED is holding them and WE DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THEM………… but we do know that the AMERICAN TAXPAYERS are LIABLE for these TOXIC ASSETS
BAMBOOZLED
TaxPayer
January 21st, 2013
4:08 pm
So basically, class of ‘98 is sad because he lost his job selling mortgages to people that he knew could not afford them. Awwww. That’s so sad.
Not really.
Woody
January 21st, 2013
4:10 pm
The task of the new Millennium, of which the next four years are a part, is to collaborate. Unfortunately, no one told us how to do that.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 21st, 2013
4:12 pm
Adam
January 21st, 2013
3:58 pm
I agree with this, but I think the right wing prescriptions so far are WAY off base, and do not even come close to approaching your suggestion of talking about it seriously. To be fair, any on the left who want to leave it “as is” suffer a similar problem.
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that is why MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA will have to stand up and put both PARTIES in their place…….but unfortunately it won’t happen until pain is felt
Alex
January 21st, 2013
4:14 pm
strange, MLK day turns into an inauguration..If I understand correctly the new president must be inaugurated before the 20th of Jan. but this president does it on MLK day, arrogant and self serving..Same as the last 4 years..let’s just get back to work, off the golf course, no vacations, go mee the new premier of China..get over yourself…you serve the entire country not just the 20-odd % that voted for you. You’ve got some capital..The debt must be delt with , learn to work with others and quickly, by this time your staff is composed of 2nd and third teamers–work to do!!
Dole had it right: the shortest line inDC is between Schummer and a TV camera.
@ Jackie, Just plain wrong, read about the recession, read Silver’s book, read too big to fail, read “how markets fail” read anything, but just read… it will do you well……
indigo
January 21st, 2013
4:14 pm
You cons are going to be beside yourself until we “get back to normal” and have a white man in the White House.
Don’t bother trying to deny it.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
4:14 pm
Taxpayer, well that was when they were not disqualifying people for Prime loans and forcing subprime loans on people who were qualified for prime loans so that they could make more money.
Then there is the whole MERS fraud plan.
But sure, its the homeowner’s fault.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
4:14 pm
@Uncle
The Fed is NOT buying credit default swaps; they are buying mortgage-backed SECURITIES, which investors are buying.
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economywatch/fed-buy-more-debt-effort-boost-sluggish-economy-997168
Charles Douglas Edwards
January 21st, 2013
4:15 pm
The United States of America is the strongest nation on earth !!!
The next four years will bring challenges including some that are not yet known.
If history is any indicator America will emerge a stronger and better nation.
May God Bless the United States of America and President Barack Obama.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
4:15 pm
@Alex
Please tell me what I am wrong about.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
4:15 pm
Veteran observer: “The president will accomplish NOTHING just like the last four years, because he doesn’t understand our system of government! We have a checks and balance system which he would like to dictate to and cannot work with as it means COMPROMISE”
That’s really so humorous I don’t really know quite where to start with it.
This president, knowing nothing of COMPROMISE?
And what planet are you on again?
Redcoat
January 21st, 2013
4:17 pm
nothing good for 4 years, but great news for Dems/Libs, it doesn’t matter . it’s always the conservatives fault!
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
4:19 pm
@Alex
If I were you, I would read more about how things are and not the way you want them to be. President Obama was sworn in yesterday with today only being a ceremonial ceremony.
Secondly, reading the information you cite only proves that you have not read for content
Jack ®
January 21st, 2013
4:19 pm
Obama’s 2nd term will be even better than the 1st. But I’m wondering how he’ll top walking on water.
Adam
January 21st, 2013
4:19 pm
but unfortunately it won’t happen until pain is felt
I disagree. I think middle class america IS standing up but the corporate backed “representatives” aren’t listening.
Alex
January 21st, 2013
4:20 pm
@ Indigo, absolutely wrong to me, your a biased racist who can’t see beyond your racial views, plain and simple, you find solace in a left winged blog which supports your racist views. Un fortunately by insulating yourself with like-minded racist you begin to believe that your thoughts are the signal (truth), they are not they are noise. A common malady with the biased web sites available to any individual with a laptop. Your cave may be warm but it’s dark and stagnant…
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
4:21 pm
@Welcome
I am on the same planet as you.
Explain what compromise means when it comes to what the House votes and the President signs?
Your expertise is needed.
Mr Right
January 21st, 2013
4:21 pm
Please list all the things rick the disaster scott has done to improve florida’s economy?
Please list all the things Obama did to improve Americas economy. Oh and whatever wasn’t good was somebody else fault
Gale
January 21st, 2013
4:22 pm
Uncle Samantha, while we are having the conversation about elders getting medicare for a few months of life sustaining when the life will end anyway after much suffering, we also need to have that conversation about children with diseases like cerebral palsy, for one. Should taxpayers pay for these? These are among the very unpopular proposals that no one wants to discuss.
Alex
January 21st, 2013
4:24 pm
@ Jackie, there should have been NO ceremony AT ALL today! as for the 4% taking down the economy, and what a relatively , I say relatively small number of mortgages do to a highly volatile and leveraged economy built on the sifting sands of sky rocketing home prices.. Content to walking on water, join indigo in the cave….
rightwingextreme
January 21st, 2013
4:31 pm
Jay
January 21st, 2013
1:37 pm
That is just so pitiful, “uncomfortable.”
Just downright pitiful. From the speech:
“… a little girl born into the bleakest poverty knows that she has the same chance to succeed as anybody else, because she is an American, she is free, and she is equal, not just in the eyes of God but also in our own.”
Sorry…..but I’m not buying his rhetoric…..The odds are that this little girl would be aborted in Obamaland.
The Democrat Party is the party of DEATH.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
4:31 pm
@Alex
What makes you think that we should fore-go tradition and ceremony in inauguration of the President?
Highly volatile and highly leverage economy economy is the way our economy has always worked. What do you think the stock markets and bond markets perform in providing business with economic leverage?
Home prices rose on speculation, which meant those that sold the homes assumed that prices would always continue to rise, not on sound business principles.
creative
January 21st, 2013
4:31 pm
You people are hilarious. I love it when Libs and Cons hate each other and call each other names. It’s also funny reading your arguments about certain issues. I love America. Keep it up people. I am sure there are some sane people reading these things that get a good chuckle out of all the hatred the you all have for each other.
Dawg'88
January 21st, 2013
4:32 pm
My anger and frustration is not that this man is president….its that all he stands for is immoral. Just because the country has “moved on” and accepted his being president and the way things only means that those who live for the world and are only of the world chose immorality instead of living the life that God intended.
Those of us who try to live by Christ’s standards were not “weined on vinegar”….we were weined on the Natural moral law that Jesus taught and commanded. Saying ugly things by those who dislike Obama is wrong as well. What is true though is this.
No matter how many times you want to shove this man’s ideology down our throats as being ok…it doesn’t make it right. You can spin and explain your way around the Truth but a lie is still a lie and and things that are morally wrong are wrong no matter how many times you try to convince yourself that this man is good for this nation.
This is a man who spits in God’s eye daily. He supports everything that is wrong and immoral about society. Look no further than two points:
1) He is ok with the debt and the debt ceiling being raised. This after he publicly called Bush irresponsible for the same things. He’s a hypocrite. Now its ok. He said that Bush was crippling the future generations. But no its ok. You know what is crippling future generations? See point 2:
2) He is for abortion at any stage of pregnancy. He supports the dismemberment of God’s innocent children. Don’t spin it any other way….abortion is the tearing apart of a baby…limb by limb and then discarding them in trash bins. This man fights for this. He says that he wants limited abortions. Well what better way to do that than supporting the right for a mother to see a sonogram. He is against this too.
When the children were killed in Conn., he said that if we have the abiltiy to save one life…then we have an obligation to do something. Well, he should put his money where his mouth is. How about saving 1,000,000 children killed by dismemberment by their own mothers. Do something about that!
He stands by an organization that was founded on racism…Planned Parenthood. They are responsible for his reelection. He receives millions from them. They say its about “reproductive health”…yeah right. 92% of their services rendered are abortions. They claim to do mammograms…not one PP even has a mammogram machine! PP was the major contributor to Obamacare drafting…no prolife groups were invited. He sold out to an organization founded by Margaret Sanger….look up her wonderful biography. The vast majority are in minority neighborhoods…coincidence? Hardly…Minorities support him but he only wants to continue to keep PP killing them daily….60 % of abortions are African American babies.
Obama sends millions to Mexico and China to support abortions….taxpayers dollars mind you. China has a one child policy…forced abortions are commonplace there. Dead babies are laid next to their mothers to show them that they must obey the law. And yet Obama says nothing….just gives them money to support it.
I could go on and on…its not irrational ranting or hate. His presidency is a sad commentary on our society. We accept immoral policies and beliefs and trash those that want to live as God intended.
Tomorrow is sad day for America…the killing/dismemberment of innocent unborn children was accepted and legalized. Will the nation offer as much attention and support for those who protest against it with the March for Life on Friday? Probably not. I bet Jay turns a blind eye and doesn’t even offer a sentence about it.
Sad…Jay and Obama supporters worship a man. They get a tingle up their legs over this man. Well, my savior is Jesus Christ. I worship him alone and fight for his Laws! So sad that you do this for an elected immoral man who is simply….The Abortion President!
phil
January 21st, 2013
4:33 pm
The next four? Same as the first four, but with MORE blame on the last guy.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 21st, 2013
4:33 pm
JACKIE
READ MY POST………… I SAID THE FED WAS BUYING MBS!!!!!!!!!
and you imply that they are selling them at a PROFIT
if that was the case then the BANKS would be selling them
open your eyes and use your brain
they are screwing us……….
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
4:33 pm
@rightwing
If the child is not aborted, how much of your tax contribution would you pledge to help this continue live a reasonably productive life?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
4:34 pm
Hey
I just read that 5 were shot during MLK parade in New Orleans…can’t wait til this new background checking is implemented. I’m sure that will keep things like this happening again.
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
4:34 pm
If you look at the budget, there are three things that take up most of the money and have to have major cuts.
Defense, medicare and other heath costs.
Cut waste in defense. Bring home the troops.
Medicare payments should go way down. We just can’t afford to keep paying at the rates we are paying.
In England, terminally ill patients get sent home with morphine and die in peace. Here, we keep them in IC in pain and suffering for months spending hundreds of thousands of dollars. Can’t keep doing that.
Alex
January 21st, 2013
4:34 pm
@ all the budding economist, there are many factors that went into the recession and many books have been writen and I am sure will be written and many academic papers and not a few Ph.d’s will be earned.. however for the non-Nobel laureates on this blog, Nate Silver’s chapter on how the rating agencies used lots of bad statistics to give us a lot of noise is understandable and helpful. The intro will tell those of you who have a “sliver” of an open mind why bloggers continue to become increasingly polarized… perhaps if we know how we are so biased we can confront the problem and improve the conversation….
TaxPayer
January 21st, 2013
4:34 pm
And on top of all the lying and cheating and stealing at the lower levels from pawning off loans on anyone for a commission or appraising a house for well more than anyone claimed it was worth or writing liar loans and interest only loans, there were the higher level scams ranging from ratings company’s claims of AAA ratings for paper whose true value was only it’s caloric content (like Sarah Palin’s book) and the banks that were in cohorts with them to the fixing of Libor rates and everything in between. Actually, the net result of those greed-induced feeding frenzies made Madoff look tame in comparison yet Madoff is the one doing time. There’s your true crime–a lack of crooks doing time. Perhaps this administration will get a few more of them behind bars before all is said and done.
Granny Godzilla
January 21st, 2013
4:35 pm
Goodness Gracious Dawg 88
You own a gun?
Seen a mental health professional lately?
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 21st, 2013
4:37 pm
GALE
its true……… its an uncomfortable discussion…………… it would be great if the world was rainbows and puppy dogs but its not………… we have to make decisions………….. but its not to say we can’t find workable solutions
TaxPayer
January 21st, 2013
4:37 pm
I’m glad I do not attend dawg88’s church of hate.
Veteran Observer
January 21st, 2013
4:39 pm
“Welcome” If the president understands about COMPROMISE then why have we operated without a budget for the past three years? Why was there a need to pass an emergency spending bill to keep the country running? Why are there no talks to deal with the debt ceiling? Congress passed his stimulus package and it was wasted by handouts to California, Illinois, MARTA, etc…! And “Jackie”, I have no problem with his veto power, but where are his ideas and leadership skills to work out a COMPROMISE with the Congressional leadership? He wants to DICTATE and everyone should follow! We knew he was inexperienced when he took office(never in Illinois or in the US Senate had he passed a meaningful piece of legislation)! But he has had four years of on-the-job training and he still cannot get anything done! That is why he has failed and will continue to do so as he demands further stimulus spending as his cronies have once again run out of money! It is very sad!
Dharma Bum
January 21st, 2013
4:40 pm
getalife,
With all of the mean and hateful rhetoric you spew everyday, how are you any better than the conservatives you perpetually demonize?
Alex
January 21st, 2013
4:40 pm
@Jackie 4;31 simply wrong the increase in home prices were very much OUT of the ordinary, look it up…Ask what’s left of Lehman’s Brothers if their degree of leverage was just a bit higher than usual before the collapse, Jackie–you have a useful if superficial understanding about the collapse and I am SURE there are those on this blog who could say the same about me, we have to keep reading and learning as the events of the last 4 years will play out again, maybe tulips or grass seed…???
tireofit
January 21st, 2013
4:41 pm
phil
January 21st, 2013
4:33 pm
The next four? Same as the first four, but with MORE blame on the last guy.
++
The bush administration actions will be blamed for the next 20 – 30 years and they deserve it.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
4:43 pm
@UNCLE
You are correct. The Fed is buying MBS.
Mad Max
January 21st, 2013
4:43 pm
Jay’s point at 3:41 is well taken. However, many of the problems facing the country, like the housing crisis, have yet to be completely resolved. While it is interesting to read the posts about who is to blame for the housing problems, I have yet to see any ideas about how to solve it. Here is partially where we are: Dodd-Frank was created to control systematic risk from too big to fail institutions for the economy. Dodd-Frank restricts the types of assets financial institutions can put on their balance sheets. Consequently, 80% of all mortgages are Government guaranteed agency debt so that the mortgage backed securities (that aren’t purchased by the Federal goverment under QE) can be purchased by financial institutions under Dodd-Frank guidelines. The traditional community bank model of lending to relationships within a community no longer works because the community bank can no longer book the loan on it’s balance sheet because it is not government guaranteed. Thus, despite Dodd-Frank’s best intentions, the mortgage market in the U.S. is dominated by a handful of “too big to fail” institutions with Wells Fargo controlling close to 40% of the entire market. Dodd-Frank served its purpose in buying financial institutions time to work out bad loans. Unfortunately, under its rules today, first time homeowners are limited to government guaranteed loans and a handful of huge institutions. The government housing agencies have lost over $300 billion since 2008 so clearly the current system is not working. The solution is to modify Dodd-Frank allowing the private sector to book a wider array of loans bringing in liquidity to the market that is not dependent on a government guarantee.
creative
January 21st, 2013
4:44 pm
keep it coming!!!! woo hoo this is fun. Right wing christians and left wing whiners. I wish we had a state where you two could run a government together.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 21st, 2013
4:47 pm
jackie
and that is an indirect way for the BIG BANKS to not LOSE $ by writing them off………. THE FED will sell them at a LOSS or a GAIN………. but we know it will be a LOSS………. then the BIG BANKS can make profits………. the FED can CLAIM the sell of the MBS REDUCES DEFICIT………..only we can not VERIFY nor will the FED let us see their books.
it is a DEFACTO BIG BANK BAILOUT
AT TAX PAYERS EXPENSE…………………….
creative
January 21st, 2013
4:47 pm
Mad Max…You are too smart for this blog. Do you think any of these people can comprehend what you just wrote. Let’s get back to the Christian and Socialist name calling!!! Sarcastic comments are always funny. Please see the comment about sarcastic comments
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
4:48 pm
Veteran Observer – The president has presented his budget to congress every year.
It’s congress that has not passed their budget resolution. Look to the House and Senate to complain about lack of an adopted budget.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
4:48 pm
tireofit
January 21st, 2013
4:41 pm
Not likely. The question is what is your guy going to do to change the bloated spending that has run up and continues to run up. Too bad we have a sitting president who is all hat and no cattle.
He took the job and you likely voted him in…what should we expect next 4 years that will improve with his direct intervention?
In fact, if the debt continues on current path and gets to 90% or more of GNP, his legacy is not anything you will enjoy. Difference is that who ever is next, they can blame Bush for his mistakes and BO for his poor stewardship..
Dharma Bum
January 21st, 2013
4:50 pm
Creative, it is really sad to watch partisan politics ruin this country.
Demonizing and badmouthing the opposition has completely replaced calm and reasoned debates because neither side is willing to drop the snide remarks long enough to make a meaningful contribution to any kind of rational discourse.
Alex
January 21st, 2013
4:51 pm
@taxpayer, agree with you, but let’s throw good old senators Dodd and Frank in for lowering requirements for mortgages, then how about the Streetsweeper who thinks they can live in a million dollar home, ….lot’s of blame to go around: greed, stupidity and arrogance can make for a nasty soup
Human nature and bubbles….”My those are nice tulips”
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
4:52 pm
Jay
Did you get the sunrise photo that I sent you?
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Class of 98 sounds like he used to be an underwriter at Countrywide.
Jay
January 21st, 2013
4:53 pm
“f I understand correctly the new president must be inaugurated before the 20th of Jan. but this president does it on MLK day, arrogant and self serving.”
That’s sad, Alex.
The Constitution calls for the inauguration to occur at noon on Jan. 20, which technically it was. Obama was inaugurated yesterday in a small ceremony. But since Jan. 20 is a Sunday this year, and since noon on a Sunday is prime church-going time for much of the country, the public ceremony was held the next day, today, instead, out of respect.
For that, Obama gets accused of being arrogant and self-serving?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
4:53 pm
Mad Max
January 21st, 2013
4:43 pm
Precisely….break up banks into appropriate verticals. Get Goldman folks and the like out of the government (or at least have time requirements between leaving office and assuming positions in private sector where they can personally benefit from policies that implemented. Add rules to make certain the credit agencies show appropriate diligence prior to ratings release and assign them liability in certain instances…
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
4:53 pm
Mad Max – There are no lenders, or substantialy none that will make private loans today. They are not willing to take the risk without a government guarantee.
Same with other loans. Banks have the money but are not willing to lend it. Too much risk.
Housing market will straighten out when all the empty inventory is off market. But that will take a while.
I think the US will become a nation of renters instead of home owners. And I don’t see that as a bad thing. Makes for a more mobile society.
People can’t move now to take jobs because they can’t sell their underwater houses.
This is going to take a few more years to stabilize.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
4:56 pm
Jay
January 21st, 2013
4:53 pm
Well not unlike his brethern elected dopes, he is indeed arrogant but certainly not in this case..
Jay
January 21st, 2013
4:56 pm
Bro, I didn’t notice the attachment until just now. Do you mind if I post it on this blog post? It’s great.
tireofit
January 21st, 2013
4:56 pm
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
January 21st, 2013
4:48 pm
tireofit
January 21st, 2013
4:41 pm
Not likely. The question is what is your guy going to do to change the bloated spending that has run up and continues to run up.
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Cut the war machine by 50%.
Tax financial transactions.
Increase tariffs
to start with
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
4:58 pm
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
4:53 pm
The only folks loaning today are the small regionals and credit unions.
I often wonder why instead of ignoring our interests and ceding cash goodies to the too big to fail banks, why didn’t we establish a resolution trust like vehicle? …that worked like a charm..tranched release of inventory and made us money in the process.
Alex
January 21st, 2013
4:59 pm
@ Mad, what has been done to improve the rating agencies ability to understand risk??? and report it accurately…@ Dharma, agree and as I blogged above it is this ability of a highly partisan person to be supported by the same in all the far right left or left wing bloggs on the internet is destructive to a rational and “truth” seeking dialogue
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 21st, 2013
5:00 pm
I agree wholeheartedly with your suggested cuts…unfortunately, the system is set up against these pragmatic tactics. Neither he nor congress have the stones/courage to even table such concepts..
He won’t and neither will any of them..
Krystal'sBalls
January 21st, 2013
5:00 pm
More BLOGWARS on the AJC.com website.
It’s true. You can bet on it.
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
5:02 pm
Jay
Sure that’s why I tried to shoot it to you early.
Alex
January 21st, 2013
5:04 pm
No Jay it is NOT SAD, it is misinformed as I may be and for that I apologize, but I am not SAD , shish, get over it man…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
5:05 pm
Well actually, Obama gets called arrogant and self-serving for anything. If he had rescheduled, it would have been for that. If he had not, it would have been for that.
ODS means never acknowledging anything but the diatribe.
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
5:05 pm
The crowd that was there was a micro representation of America. I took more crowd pics than anything else.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
5:07 pm
I just got an email from Biden in the past hour. How arrogant and self-serving that he took time out to email me.
creative
January 21st, 2013
5:11 pm
Dharma Bun… you are too smart for this blog too!!! what are you doing writing a reasonable comment. Unacceptable behavior. Kidding… Hopefully people like you can have an opinion whether it is on the right, left or center and debate with others. I don”t feel like that will ever happen because people can hide behind their keyboard. I can debate with my friends and family and most my friends and family have opinions but will listen to another side of an argument and concede some points. Nothing will change until people realize that abortion has nothing to do with taxes and environmental policy has nothing to do with gun policy gay rights have nothing to do with corporate welfare or personal welfare. Dharma….please also note that I will be the only one who responds to your comment as you were asking for civil debate and not name calling which is the only thing that appears on this blog or any political blog. These blogs are pointless and only make people feel better about
josef
January 21st, 2013
5:11 pm
So, post it already…
Hey Libs, how is your paychecks looking now
January 21st, 2013
5:13 pm
Jeffrey,
Go back to your trailer park res
Wilbur
January 21st, 2013
5:14 pm
The Next four years?
More class warfare.
Heightened race divisions
Stagnant economy
Fewer Freedoms
The Bite of Obamacare
More Regulation
Dangerous international crisis
Malaise at home.
creative
January 21st, 2013
5:14 pm
I stand corrected Alex responded
josef
January 21st, 2013
5:14 pm
creative, Dharma
Was being a fly on the wall, more or less, y’all have actually said something that caught my attention…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
5:16 pm
Was being a fly on the wall
Hmmm…my no pest strip must need changing.
Alex
January 21st, 2013
5:17 pm
@ Jay, I should have been more explicit as in he chooses MLK day to have the public ceremony, I stand with my statement, and the idea that you cannot even entertain his arrogance, reveals your lack of objectivity …”out of respect” are you joking, respect for whom, MLK on his day, is that you explanation, arrogate and self serving and narrow minded, but this is an opinion piece and it should not be such an ignorant one, think about it Jay he elected to have the public ceremony on MLK day,
josef
January 21st, 2013
5:18 pm
GOOD FIGHT
weetamoe
January 21st, 2013
5:19 pm
Beyonce of the *take that, Mitches* comment? Fits right in with Obama’s vote for revenge, punch back twice as hard, bring a gun to the fight, they are holding the people hostage/have a gun to our head oh so civil and unifying talk.
josef
January 21st, 2013
5:21 pm
BROSEPHUS
Good shot.
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
5:22 pm
josef
Check your inbox
Alex
January 21st, 2013
5:22 pm
@ Josef, I often don’t agree with you, but I received “the noise and the Signal” for christmas, may I suggest it to you, as I have stated already the price of the book is paid for by the intro… I think YOU would appreciate is concepts
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
5:23 pm
@UNCLE
There can be no defacto default by the Fed because they can print money.
Don’t understand the point you are trying to make; you seem to be speculating about what may happen.
tireofit
January 21st, 2013
5:24 pm
Watching the inauguration parade I cannot imagine King Mitt and Queen Ann at this event.
Liberal Nightmare
January 21st, 2013
5:24 pm
Climate Change. Tehehe. Cap and trade by executive order? Grandstanding for the sake of it? Or more failed “green” investments by the Idiot in Chief? Time will prove the junk science of AGW, and then the lib masses will assert the great sun let them down.
Uh Huh....The Second Time Around
January 21st, 2013
5:25 pm
(The second time around)
We know you come a long way, Obama
But you don’t need a heart of stone, no
You proved that you could do it
You could not make it on your own
But you can’t keep runnin’ away from CONS
‘Cause the CONS let you down, no, no, no
And though others try to satisfy you,
With US true love can still be found
Love can still be found
(The second time around)
Jay
January 21st, 2013
5:25 pm
Yeah, Alex, it is DEEPLY inappropriate to hold the inauguration of our one and only black president on MLK Day (major sarc. alert).
I’m sure black Americans across the country must be outraged.
josef
January 21st, 2013
5:27 pm
ALEX
Out of respect for the Christian sabbath. As far as it being MLK Day, I’ve no real objection there. Maybe it he’d done it the first go round, but this time? Somehow it’s fitting, a routine inauguration of a mediocre man of color as POTUS. And, no, I’m not being snarky. This should be the first of many to come as the Black American takes his/her rightful place in our society and political landscape. No big deal. If Obama’s first term said nothing else, it showed us that Black folks are going to produce the same mixed bag of good and bad as any other group. And that’s a good thing.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
5:31 pm
Yeah, Alex, it is DEEPLY inappropriate to hold the inauguration of our one and only black president on MLK Day (major sarc. alert).
Well. true enough. But sadly, it also has the effect of bringing into view another, less happy disjunction. as Cornell West has said.
>“All of the blood, sweat and tears that went into producing a Martin Luther King, Jr. generated a brother of such high decency and dignity that you don’t use his prophetic fire for a moment of presidential pageantry without understanding the challenge he represents to all of those in power regardless of what color they are.
http://newsone.com/2153928/cornel-west-obama-mlk/
Jay
January 21st, 2013
5:31 pm
Alex, I think it’s interesting that you have no idea how irrational that criticism will seem to almost anybody not already committed to your concept of Obama. It explains why so many people see today’s conservatives as extremists.
josef
January 21st, 2013
5:33 pm
BROSEPHUS
Got it…thanks….
ALEX
Looks like a good read. I’ll check it out. Thanks.
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
5:33 pm
Jay
Obama could have really been pompous and had it on Tuesday. That would have given federal workers a 4 day weekend once you add the MLK holiday today and a Tuesday inauguration. I’m sure his ego could have handled a 4 day weekend that was all about him.
Jay
January 21st, 2013
5:34 pm
Cornel West epitomizes the pompous academic.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
5:34 pm
“You don’t play with Martin Luther King, Jr. and you don’t play with his people, said West. “By his people, I mean people of good conscience, fundamentally good people committed to peace and truth and justice, especially the Black tradition that produced it.
http://newsone.com/2153928/cornel-west-obama-mlk/
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
5:34 pm
Cornel West epitomizes the pompous academic.
Puh.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
5:35 pm
@Alex
Sorry, that I had to walk away for a bit, but, your contention that home prices are not based on speculation by the builder is false.
How else does the builder discern when, where and what to build if the does not speculate.
Jay
January 21st, 2013
5:38 pm
West is not qualified to decide such matters. John Lewis, who knew King and worked with King and shed blood with him, was deeply touched by the use of Dr. King’s Bible. So was Andrew Young. I am aware of no member of the King family or King associates who raised any objection whatsoever to the use of Dr. King’s Bible in the inauguration; they and only they would have the credibility to render such judgments.
josef
January 21st, 2013
5:41 pm
IMAM
“Cornel West epitomizes the pompous academic.”
So many lines, so little time and that pesky New Year’s resolution.
Ken
January 21st, 2013
5:43 pm
Fighting about social issues does not help me or my neighbors. The rest of the world is passing us by.
Jay
January 21st, 2013
5:43 pm
This has to be VERY hard on you, Josef. :>)
josef
January 21st, 2013
5:46 pm
BIG DADDY
Oh, if you only knew! Poor Unmentionable is threatening to namejack me and ruin it so he doesn’t have to listen…
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
5:47 pm
Just checking back in since its the start of the 2nd term. So has he completely bankrupted us yet?
Ronald Reagan Parkway
January 21st, 2013
5:47 pm
Cornel West and Spike Lee can be summed up using two words; angry men!! What contributions have Cornel West contributed to the African American community lately? If he is the so called great philosopher, why hasn’t he brought some of that brilliancy to some of the HBCU’s and inspired some of the young Black men that are in need of mentors?
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
5:50 pm
@Ronald Reagan
How do you know what Cornell West has done for any of the HBCU’s?
Mr. West speaks at many HBCU’s.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
5:51 pm
Jay 5:38.
I don’t agree with that last bit: “they and only they would have the credibility to render such judgments.”
I think we ALL have the opportunity, the challenge, of rendering such judgments. The symbols surrounding the life and legacy of Martin Luther King, Jr. are universal and pertain to all of us. And the same goes for the symbols and pageantry of the presidential inauguration.
We ALL have a say.
Ronald Reagan Parkway
January 21st, 2013
5:52 pm
Mr. West speaks at many HBCU’s.
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Has he ever taught any classes?
Krystal'sBalls
January 21st, 2013
5:53 pm
More “O.D.S”
It’s true.
F. Sinkwich
January 21st, 2013
5:53 pm
Did O’bozo actually use the word “collective” in his speech?
No more hiding his commie-ness anymore apparently.
No point I guess.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 21st, 2013
5:53 pm
Josef
But Unmentionable has to sleep sometime
tireofit
January 21st, 2013
5:53 pm
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
5:47 pm
Just checking back in since its the start of the 2nd term. So has he completely bankrupted us yet?
++
No, but thanks for asking. The bush legacy continues.
Krystal'sBalls
January 21st, 2013
5:59 pm
“Did O’bozo actually use the word “collective” in his speech?
No more hiding his commie-ness anymore apparently.”
YESSS!!! Because the “good Christian” thing to do is NOT give a $*** about others and live a totally self-centered/absorbed existence.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
6:00 pm
Did O’bozo actually use the word “collective” in his speech?
Ooh, there’s one under every bed.
josef
January 21st, 2013
6:00 pm
COMMON SENSE
Somebody asked him one time if he suffered from insomnia. He told them not since he met me!
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 21st, 2013
6:02 pm
josef
Is that why they call it SAFE sex?
Ronald Reagan Parkway
January 21st, 2013
6:03 pm
Should HBCU Alumni return to work at HBCUs?
http://stateofhbcus.wordpress.com/tag/teaching-at-a-hbcu/
Jay
January 21st, 2013
6:04 pm
Welcome, that’s certainly true. But West acts as if he owns King’s legacy and can dictate how, and by whom, it can be used. He and I disagree on that point, among others.
josef
January 21st, 2013
6:06 pm
COMMON SENSE
When the subject of multiple sex partners came up once, he said why go out looking for them when you live with me, as many personalities as I’ve got…
Krystal'sBalls
January 21st, 2013
6:09 pm
Regarding this fabricated outrage over Inauguration Day being held on MLK Holiday…. This would not even be an issue IF THE “NATIONAL HOLIDAY” WAS ACTUALLY OBSERVED ON THE MAN’S ACTUAL BIRTH DATE! I don’t recall really, but why was that too much to ask in the first place?
barking frog
January 21st, 2013
6:09 pm
josef,
so your personalities get bored by each other ?
indigo
January 21st, 2013
6:10 pm
Liberal Nightmare – 5:24
It’s a real honor to have someone like you here who knows more than The National Academy of Sciences.
http://nationalacademies.org/onpi/06072005.pdf
josef
January 21st, 2013
6:10 pm
KB
Three day weekend….
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
6:11 pm
“I am aware of no member of the King family or King associates who raised any objection whatsoever to the use of Dr. King’s Bible in the inauguration; they and only they would have the credibility to render such judgments.”
Hmmm. The King family and the word credibility should never be in the same sentence together. Considering the scandal and financial mismanagement by the family- a topic that Miss Cynthia Tucker had written about. Their legacy is wholly different from Reverand King’s legacy.
josef
January 21st, 2013
6:12 pm
FROG
“…so your personalities get bored by each other ?”
Do they ever! That’s why we come here…bore somebody else for a change.
barking frog
January 21st, 2013
6:14 pm
josef
you guys give unmentionable a rest when on the blog, I guess..
F. Sinkwich
January 21st, 2013
6:14 pm
“…with talk of national unity and purpose interspersed with indirect if sharp reminders of issues that divide us.”
Just one example in a totally awful speech. Where was the celebration of America? Where was the uplifting rhetoric? Where was the pride in America as the last great hope of mankind?
Instead, we got lectured. We have poverty, we need more teachers, we hate gays, we hate old folks, we want the climate to destroy the world…
Rev. Wright wrote is speech for him.
GD America.
And the majority of the voters buy in.
RIP USA 1776-2012
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
6:15 pm
“What contributions have Cornel West contributed to the African American community lately?”
Comic relief.
josef
January 21st, 2013
6:18 pm
FROG
Yeah. He says a prayer for Jay’s continued health and well being daily!
Orange13
January 21st, 2013
6:18 pm
Did President Obama declare war on the Republican Party during his speech after his swearing in or is that considered a given?
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
6:18 pm
“No, but thanks for asking. The bush legacy continues.”
So W is still president is he? Ya coulda just said “Its W’s fault!”.
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
6:20 pm
Obama used the word “collective”. And this surprises folks why???
indigo
January 21st, 2013
6:20 pm
F. Sinkwich – 6:14
It would be great if you would just admit that no matter what Obama said in a speech, you would harshly critize him.
indigo
January 21st, 2013
6:22 pm
Doom – 6:18 “So W is still president is he”?
No, but the huge amount of damage he did to our country is far from being repaired.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
6:23 pm
Jay: “But West acts as if he owns King’s legacy and can dictate how, and by whom, it can be used”
By choosing to focus on the bible, he runs that risk, that’s for sure, and it’s not clear West passes. But I credit him for raising the challenge.
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
6:24 pm
indigo,
Oh. Otay. So in other words when Obama continues to fail for another 4 years it’ll still be W’s fault. Thanks for clearing that up.
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
6:26 pm
I am kinda happy though that the libs had a happy and joyous day today celebrating. They needed some optimism and besides,it helps take their minds off the tragic death of Manti Teo’s girlfriend.
Chris Salzmann
January 21st, 2013
6:27 pm
The thought of all the CONs facing FOUR MORE YEARS of unrepentant hate and heartburn brings me nothing but joy. And that’s just for the next four years……….Hillary is waiting and considering the intellectual light weights that the Republicans will undoubtedly offer in their next primary, they aren’t going anywhere for the foreseeable future.
Good times to be a Progressive!!!
4 More...Get Use to It!!
January 21st, 2013
6:27 pm
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Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
6:27 pm
Should HBCU Alumni return to work at HBCUs?
Why should anybody even have to ask that question? I don’t see anybody making issues of Georgia Tech grads teaching at predominantly White institutions. People should be able to teach wherever they choose. As a graduate of a HBCU, I wouldn’t hesitate to teach at one if the opportunity came my way.
tireofit
January 21st, 2013
6:27 pm
F. Sinkwich? do you hold your nose around yourself?
oldguy
January 21st, 2013
6:31 pm
TD,
Actually I blame the economy on Millard Fillmore.
It’s his fault for sending Perry to open trade with Japan!
It’s been down hill ever since!!
barking frog
January 21st, 2013
6:33 pm
oldguy
Actually I blame the economy on Millard Fillmore.
It’s his fault for sending Perry to open trade with Japan!
It’s been down hill ever since!!
………………………………………………………………..
Nixon finalized it with his trip to china.
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
6:35 pm
@6:27,
Cult of personality is alive and well with the kook left.
Uh Huh....The Second Time Around
January 21st, 2013
6:36 pm
@Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
6:26 pm
I am kinda happy though that the libs had a happy and joyous day today celebrating. They needed some optimism and besides,it helps take their minds off the tragic death of Manti Teo’s girlfriend.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TODAY was PAYDAY.
WE libs had our due.
YOU cons thought you would be celebrating MYTH ROBME and
MS ANN ROBME WANNABE.
Cons are Losers
josef
January 21st, 2013
6:37 pm
OLD GUY
“It’s been down hill ever since!!”
Or down the toilet!
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 21st, 2013
6:38 pm
Bro
You can’t teach you are a blood sucking leach on society (didn’t you realize that)?
Uh Huh....The Second Time Around
January 21st, 2013
6:38 pm
@Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
6:26 pm
I am kinda happy though that the libs had a happy and joyous day today celebrating.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sorry YOU Cons could not join in the celebration.
Maybe in 2100.
heeheeheeheehee
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
6:39 pm
“Hillary is waiting and considering the intellectual light weights that the Republicans will undoubtedly offer in their next primary, they aren’t going anywhere for the foreseeable future.”
Chris Salzmann,
Lets hope she makes it through another hail of gunfire in Bosnia.
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
6:41 pm
“TODAY was PAYDAY.
WE libs had our due.”
Sounds like Uh-huh got his welfare check and food stamps. He’s got what was due him on his PAYDAY!
oldguy
January 21st, 2013
6:41 pm
Hi Josef,
Bought myself a reproduction LeMat for Christmas. I might need it for Civil War part Du!
Mr Right
January 21st, 2013
6:42 pm
No, but the huge amount of damage he did to our country is far from being repaired
Good point! After four years it seems it was time to get someone in that knows how to repair it but I guess not! This guy don’t seem to have a clue!
TBS
January 21st, 2013
6:44 pm
Thulsa
That was a doozy from Hillary but how about this one from a sitting President?
“I’ve been to war. I’ve raised twins. If I had a choice, I’d rather go to war.”
Bush
Can we get a fact check?
bwhahahahahah
Independent voter
January 21st, 2013
6:45 pm
Taxes, healthcare, inflation, unemployment and under employment all on the backs of the middle class…. young folks, minorities, women all those who voted for Obama… ironically slamed by Obamanomics and Obama care… union membership is down… Gazzionaires are doing great.. Stock market WAY UP !!! look at all the expensive cars and new huge homes… Obama does not understand business and economics well enough to reward those who voted him in… you go Jay !!!!
Uh Huh....The Second Time Around
January 21st, 2013
6:46 pm
@Common Sense isn’t very Common
January 21st, 2013
6:38 pm
Bro
You can’t teach you are a blood sucking leach on society (didn’t you realize that)?
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But you can TEACH…..”common sense AIN’T so common as you well
KNOW.”.
indigo
January 21st, 2013
6:47 pm
Doom
Do you understand what the word “huge” means?
Neither Obama or anyone else could have, in four years, made a significant dint in Bush’s mess.
F. Sinkwich
January 21st, 2013
6:48 pm
“We suck. We should be ashamed.”
– O’bozo, January 21, 2013
Mr Right
January 21st, 2013
6:50 pm
Neither Obama or anyone else could have, in four years, made a significant dint in Bush’s mess.
Good point about Obama, he most certainly didn’t!
josef
January 21st, 2013
6:50 pm
OLD GUY
Lynnie Gal
January 21st, 2013
6:51 pm
“Let each of us now embrace, with solemn duty and awesome joy, what is our lasting birthright. With common effort and common purpose, with passion and dedication, let us answer the call of history, and carry into an uncertain future that precious light of freedom.”
President Barack Obama
January 21, 2013
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
6:51 pm
Mr. West annual salary is too high for the typical HBCU’s.
Uh Huh....The Second Time Around
January 21st, 2013
6:52 pm
@oldguy
January 21st, 2013
6:41 pm
Hi Josef,
Bought myself a reproduction LeMat for Christmas. I might need it for Civil War part Du!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You got a LeMat?
Someone has an AK-47.
Let the games begin.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
6:53 pm
A great day for our President.
A great day to be American.
A great day for our country.
Uh Huh....The Second Time Around
January 21st, 2013
6:55 pm
@josef
January 21st, 2013
6:50 pm
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HE got a LeMat?
Someone has an AK-47.
Let the games begin.
F. Sinkwich
January 21st, 2013
6:57 pm
“President Barack Obama´s communications director, Dan Pfeiffer, says that our political system isn´t “worthy” of Obama and the opportunity the president presents.”
Bummer.
F. Sinkwich
January 21st, 2013
6:59 pm
“A great day for our country.”
Sez you.
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
6:59 pm
NoCom
I could teach blood sucking 101.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
6:59 pm
One old con up in a tree screamed what about the babies and was arrested.
oldguy
January 21st, 2013
7:01 pm
Josef and I are re-enactors, thus the period piece. Although the period piece will still get the job done! A sweet shooter.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
7:01 pm
“Sez you”
You will cry for four more years.
Mr Right
January 21st, 2013
7:04 pm
In Obamas first term food stamp recients increased 11,133 per day,the federal debt increased 50,521 per household and Americans not in the work force increased 8,332,000!
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
7:06 pm
“n Obamas first term food stamp recients increased 11,133 per day,the federal debt increased 50,521 per household and Americans not in the work force increased 8,332,000!”
Yep, that’s the result when “…this sucker could go down” as per a certain previous President.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
7:08 pm
Appears the Repubs and their attempt to “negotiate” about the fiscal cliff debt crisis is about to create more enemies.
http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2013/01/fiscal-crisis-threatens-military-pay-again/
josef
January 21st, 2013
7:10 pm
old guy
I’m not a reenactor, I have attended a number of the reenactments though…I play a politician! Guess which one?
F. Sinkwich
January 21st, 2013
7:12 pm
“Ask not what you can do for your country. Ask what your country can do for you.”
O’bozo — January 21, 2013
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
7:13 pm
Doggone
What chu talkin’ bout? You know everything was perfect on 1/19/09.
jconservative
January 21st, 2013
7:15 pm
“Just checking back in since its the start of the 2nd term. So has he completely bankrupted us yet?”
Interesting comment. Who is “he”?
The last time I checked, a couple of hours ago, Congress approves every nickle the President spends. The last time I checked Congress authorizes every nickle of revenue the President receives. And Congress passed a law that the President MUST spend every nickle Congress says he can spend. And Congress passed a law that says if spending is greater than revenue the President must borrow the necessary money to pay the bills if cash is short.
So, again, who is he?
The basic question has a lot of merit. But it should more properly be a question of “Have they bankrupted us yet?” And “they” is Congress. And the answer is a resounding yes.
The 112th Congress had two straight $1 trillion deficits. The last time I checked , November 7, 2012, the vast majority of them were re-elected.
And so it goes…………………..
The more things change the more they remain the same.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
7:15 pm
“…this sucker could go down”
That sucker did go down.
cons ignore that fact.
F. Sinkwich
January 21st, 2013
7:16 pm
Something O’bozo forgot to mention today:
“WASHINGTON — Even though much has changed the past four years, President Barack Obama begins his second term with one thing that hasn’t: the unemployment rate. When Obama first took office in January 2009, the unemployment rate was 7.8 percent.”
Oops. Well, that’s what we deserve. We suck.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
7:17 pm
Guess which one?
Jefferson Davis.
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
7:18 pm
jconservative
You have to excuse the willful stupidity that rears it’s head over Bookman’s blog like Putin over Alaska. The ODS causes even the best and brightest to lose their mind.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
7:20 pm
“The ODS causes even the best and brightest to lose their mind.”
Drug companies are working on a pill for that.
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
7:20 pm
nice pic, Bros.
F. Sinkwich
January 21st, 2013
7:21 pm
“So, again, who is he?”
A euro-socialist radical bent on the destruction of what has made this country the greatest the world has ever seen.
Thanks for asking!
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 21st, 2013
7:21 pm
Uh Huh….The Second Time Around
6:46 pm
Lighten up Frances
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
7:21 pm
I like how “ODS” actually sounds odious.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 21st, 2013
7:22 pm
sfd
you left out IOU
oldguy
January 21st, 2013
7:24 pm
Josef,
Maybe you can make it to the Bentonville reenactment this year. I can promise some nice Moldovan wine for the encampment.! (I’ll be with the 58th NC).
getalife
January 21st, 2013
7:25 pm
The ODS is off the charts for filky.
Thorazine stat.
josef
January 21st, 2013
7:27 pm
getalife
Nope.
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
7:29 pm
I don’t know what the next four years will bring, besides grumpy old white guys griping about having to live in an imaginary Soviet socialist republic.
Maybe the nation will become so fed up with their “representatives” that the House gets turned back over, but that’s a serious long shot given the way those districts are drawn. So it’ll probably get uglier before it gets better.
Anyone paying attention to the Senate re-convening? Aren’t they supposed to implement filibuster reform? That’d be something, at least.
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
7:31 pm
dB
Thanks. I think the lil one has memories for a lifetime. She even recorded some audio of her own and took pictures.
josef
January 21st, 2013
7:32 pm
OLD GUY
That Moldovan is a true enticement! Out of curiosity, how did you discover them?
getalife
January 21st, 2013
7:36 pm
I doubt we will see our President falling down drunk at the Olympics or giving a massage to the German leader.
oldguy
January 21st, 2013
7:38 pm
At a Russian deli and market in Boston. The also had some interesting Russian Standard Vodka from St. Petersburg. Would like to try both on-site this summer.
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
7:38 pm
oh, crap.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/reid-seeks-middle-path-on-filibuster-86369.html
Still trying to cut a deal with the Turtle? Why, Harry? Why?
Alex
January 21st, 2013
7:40 pm
Been away for a while, Jay the fact that I and C. West suggest that this day in particular may be an inappropriate day to put on a celebration for another person should at least give you pause to reflect . No, you immediately categorize me and at the same time excoriate West. I’m no way a fan of West and thinks he is a pompous racist…. It is you who are unable or not willing to examine opposite viewpoints and are the reason for our increasingly polarized political conversation and it is those like you who are too arrogate or ignorant not to consider differing viewpoints. As stated above this brings discomfort to those who are challenged , but this is where learning occur as opposed to simply and idiotically confirming your own bias.
Jackie, I agree that housing prices were speculated upon, and we both agree, I hope, that housing prices increased in an highly unusual manner (that’s why it was called a bubble), you did not seem to think that the leverage that was occurring was outside the normal, I disagree and while leveraging is important in many ways ,there is little doubt that Lehman in the end was overleveraged, whatever the real reason for it’s investments.Anyway, complicated issue, unfortunately radio infomercials are back:”investing in a house” historically the value of a house has gone up minimally each year and is not a good investment tool, the bubble showed what happens when it is used as one.The debt ceiling will be raised, we need to think beyond it and start to rein in spending:Social Security, Medicare, etc. Don’t just say NO, think how to rein in spending, raising taxes cannot raise enough money !!!!
For those of you who have an interest in learning alittle about Obama’s challenges and what he needs to do and to learn in an objective way, read this weeks Economist (remember this paper supported Obama over Romney)……
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
7:42 pm
Thanks. I think the lil one has memories for a lifetime.
For sure.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
January 21st, 2013
7:46 pm
josef — you’re still here? if so I have a question I’d like to ask.
Itchy Finger
January 21st, 2013
7:48 pm
To the delight of liberal we will have four more years of misery… Its sad that the most inept incompetent President in our gets re-elected. Hopefully Republican’s can get the electoral college in order so hard working Americans won’t have to put up with this crap much longer….
oldguy
January 21st, 2013
7:48 pm
Josef,
Got to get some Chow……later.
josef
January 21st, 2013
7:49 pm
OLD GUY
I’m a fan of the Balkan wines… got introduced to the Moldovan’s via the Romanian connection…
josef
January 21st, 2013
7:50 pm
DDR
Yes, I’m here…and did you get my message about shooting me an e-mail? I lost your address in a computer fry…
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
7:51 pm
“To the delight of liberal”
Who’s liberal and why does his opinion matter?
Recon 0311 2533
January 21st, 2013
7:52 pm
We have a president who talks mostly about social issues and not to any great extent about dangerous economic or foreign issues in his 20 minute inaugural speech. It looked like this president viewed today as more of a coronation than an American presidential inauguration. This narcisstic president thinks he has his back to the wind and that the American people love him.
Christian Conservative
January 21st, 2013
7:53 pm
http://washingtonexaminer.com/why-obama-will-be-remembered-as-a-failed-president/article/2519268#.UP3ixeTgDHt
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
7:54 pm
What will the next four years hold?
More crushing of fake conservatives.
RIP Neoconservatism, 1980 -2008.
Christian Conservative
January 21st, 2013
7:54 pm
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/first-term-americans-not-labor-force-increased-8332000
Recon 0311 2533
January 21st, 2013
7:56 pm
“More crushing of fake conservatives”
Nope the crushing of fake Americans. We’ve had enough.
Rightwing troll
January 21st, 2013
7:56 pm
“Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2013
5:47 pm
Just checking back in since its the start of the 2nd term. So has he completely bankrupted us yet?”
No… Have you beat up any blogs today?
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
7:57 pm
I was really proud that my ten year old daughter all on her own watched the inauguration.
And all you haters of Obama and America can take large mouthfuls as I invite you to bite my ass.
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
7:57 pm
Doggone
Liberal is that imaginary poster they all come here to debate. It’s not that his opinion matters. They simply can’t debate an actual person, so they have to invent someone who they think they can beat. The sad thing is they still lose half the time to a figment of their own imagination.
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
7:58 pm
We’ve had enough.
Air Iran is ready when you are.
saywhat?
January 21st, 2013
7:58 pm
What will the next four years hold?
4 more years of crazy right wing whining, crying, temper tantrums, willful ignorance, amnesia of the events that occurred the eight years before January 2009, blind hatred of their President, his party ,and anything even loosely connected to them, over the top fantastical predictions of doom, and delusional screams of persecution (Did I miss anything?), while the adults continue to successfully repair the worst mess ever left to an incoming President in our nation’s history.
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
7:59 pm
Recon 0311 2533
January 21st, 2013
7:56 pm
“More crushing of fake conservatives”
Nope the crushing of fake Americans. We’ve had enough.
+++++++++++++++++++++
So what are you going to do now? Go all postal because your failed ideas were rejected by AMERICA. You aren’t a patriot, you are a traitor. Live it, learn it, wear it. It’s what you are.
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
7:59 pm
Fred
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
8:00 pm
“The sad thing is they still lose half the time to a figment of their own imagination”
I would say the REALLY sad thing is that they don’t even realize they’ve lost.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
January 21st, 2013
8:00 pm
No i didn’t get it, sorry! I’ll send an email to Jay to ask him to resend it to you. I will also look in my old emails to see if I still have it.
Here’s my question, totally up to you to answer or not.
While raising your children, did you receive a lot of help? Like from friends, family, etc. And not so much physical help as “helpful tips” or “suggestions”? And if so, how did you react to them? Were they welcomed or avoided?
Why do i ask? i have a friend who is a gay parent raising 3 boys that he adopted. well him and his partner. He is white, and the boys are black/biracial (2) and Hispanic (1). I see him trying and i would LOVE to butt in and give him advice; but i am NOT a parent, (step parent IMO is NOT a real parent unless they are actually doing the raising); AND he didn’t ask for my advice.
I see the issues that may arise from him trying to raise the boys — being a minority I can see certain pitfalls that he doesn’t see and probably doesn’t know exist.
I was wondering how to broach the subject sensitively.
josef
January 21st, 2013
8:01 pm
BROSEPHUS
“… a pigment of their own imagination.”
There. Corrected your typo.
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
8:01 pm
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
7:57 pm
Doggone
Liberal is that imaginary poster they all come here to debate. It’s not that his opinion matters. They simply can’t debate an actual person, so they have to invent someone who they think they can beat. The sad thing is they still lose half the time to a figment of their own imagination.
++++++++++++++++++
If people would learn to ignore the trolls and the paid agitators, life would be good for everybody but Jay. His post count would go down.
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
8:05 pm
as I invite you to bite my ass.
Let my robot friend do the talking for ya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X10ar5VSKrI
guy
January 21st, 2013
8:05 pm
RB from Gwinnett, You are right on with what will happen with obama still in office. Liberals won’t understand what you wrote because it’s the truth and uses common sense. Thanks!
Recon 0311 2533
January 21st, 2013
8:05 pm
Air Iran is ready when you are.
I’ve served and bled for this country, I’m not going anywhere. You’re the scum of it, so you can jump a flight out to Iran, the N.K. or communist China. BTW… take your 70’s, 80’s C.D.’s with you for company maybe you can slip them through. Woodstock wannabe boy.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
January 21st, 2013
8:07 pm
And also, I don’t want him to feel like, since he’s gay, he’s doesn’t know what he’s doing….or that his being white means he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
I truly believe that LOVING a child is the most important thing; not how the parents look. But raising a child who will face a different challenge then you’ve faced, (whether the child is handicapped, has a mental illness, debilitating disease, etc.); the child will face obstacles that the parent hasn’t and probably will NEVER in his/her lifetime is like a minefield; you have to walk carefully.
Saying that — I want to help. BUT i don’t want to be overbearing or insensitive with it.
Itchy Finger
January 21st, 2013
8:08 pm
Doggone/GA
“To the delight of liberal”
Who’s liberal and why does his opinion matter?
All of Jays followers which I doubt most of you fruits are real. Its Jay trying to make it look as though he has a following. But honestly it seems you freaks want America to fail….. Why else would one support obama?
saywhat?
January 21st, 2013
8:08 pm
The rightwingers here remind of that that 1970s Foreigner song. What was it- Angry White Boy or something?
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
8:09 pm
Nope the crushing of fake Americans. We’ve had enough.
Face facts. You ain’t gonna do nothin’ but bitch, like you have the last four years.
Now bite my shiny metal ass.
Recon 0311 2533
January 21st, 2013
8:09 pm
Well now we have freddy the troll, trolling for hard-left friends. Good luck freddy , they laugh at you behind your back.
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
8:10 pm
DDR: If your friend is gay then he by definition is “sensitive” and would welcome your suggestions……… just kidding couldn’t resist a play on the stereo-types.
But seriously, if he IS your friend then he knows, as we here who only know you peripherally, how wise and thoughtful you are and would welcome some thoughts from you on race. He has to wonder and depending on how long he has had the children has already run into difficulty. While he may reject “parenting” advice from one with no kids he SHOULD be open to race advice from one who is not only black but in a mixed marriage.
Funny how “mixed marriage”is a code word. My wife’s mother is Korean, yet folks don’t call mine a mixed marriage. Were she black they all would…………. Oh well, it is what it is. We do the best we can and HOPEFULLY make this damn world a better place by our efforts and rantings here to each other. Even when talking to and reading the assclowns some form of understanding is passed………
Shame Jay hates me so much he banished the perfectly descriptive word……. @$$hat……. (you don’t know how much it pains me to type it like that. I need to go wash now for compromising my principles……….
Soothsayer
January 21st, 2013
8:10 pm
Thought I’d look inside for a minute. WOW! We got people telling people to take the next flight to EYE-ran and other people telling other people to bite their “a**es.” Looks like the vitriol is running a little HIGH tonight.
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
8:11 pm
Recon 0311 2533
January 21st, 2013
8:09 pm
Well now we have freddy the troll, trolling for hard-left friends. Good luck freddy , they laugh at you behind your back.
++++++++++++++++
Only you Baptists do that. Real people have the balls to speak up to folks.
guy
January 21st, 2013
8:11 pm
stands for decibels Now,now,now be nice to everyone,even those who may disagree with you. We are to love our enemies,remember? Settle down!
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
8:11 pm
Diaper Del meltdown.
I love them.
Maybe he’ll get his widdle fee fees hurt again and scurry back over to Kyles…
TBS
January 21st, 2013
8:11 pm
josef
Monday MLK specials?
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
8:12 pm
You know what, cons?
You guys iz alright. You know that? You alllllright.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
January 21st, 2013
8:12 pm
Fred: And all you haters of Obama and America can take large mouthfuls as I invite you to bite my ass.
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Recon – Start thinking outside of the Fox. You’ll feel better. And sound smarter.
TBS
January 21st, 2013
8:13 pm
DDR
I will give you credit, but might have to steal your line from time to time.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
8:14 pm
Diaper Del meltdown
Now that is funny.
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
8:14 pm
Doggone @ 8:00
There is that.
——————-
Fred
I’m trying to avoid feeding the jackassery myself. Even wheni it’s tempting to put their ignorance on full display.
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
8:14 pm
Now bite my shiny metal ass.
That’s what I’m talking about.
I’ve waited a long time to see these Ronnie/Newtie/Georgie fake conservative pukes go into the tank, and there is no mistaking it, that day is here!
Lord be praised!!
And I’m enjoying every minute of it…
stands for decibels
January 21st, 2013
8:14 pm
Looks like the vitriol is running a little HIGH tonight.
yeah, and if I stick around to enjoy it too much I’ll get sucked in even worse. Think I’ll bid all a pleasant evening.
josef
January 21st, 2013
8:14 pm
DDR
We got LOTS of help from many, many sources. We also got a lot of suggestions, etc. How did we react? Oh, pretty much the same way anybody in any circumstances would…considered the source and the nature of the suggestion.
The “race” thingie has to be dealt with, whether or not we want to and it will, at some point, be at issue. I’ve got several friends (some gay and some straight) who have adopted Asian,Latin American or Romany children. There are organizations which are out there to provide support. The main thing is that he and his partner listen to the kids and let them lead the way…
In our own case, as you know, ours is a “mixed marriage.” I had to step back a number of times when Unmentionable would tell me to “quit trying to make them little Indians” or when I had to do the same and tell him to “quit trying to make them little Jews.” The best either of us could do was to give them all the love we had and make sure that if and when they wanted to know something about the heritage, stereotypes and expectations that we could point them the right direction to find out and learn for themselves and relate to it as they saw fit.
What “mistakes” are you seeing?
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
8:15 pm
“All of Jays followers”
Welcome to the crowd!
Recon 0311 2533
January 21st, 2013
8:15 pm
Only you Baptists do that. Real people have the balls to speak up to folks.
Only real people have balls, I guess yours never dropped down. Suck up to scam vet he needs your company.
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
8:16 pm
dB @ 8:09
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
8:17 pm
dB: LOL i saved that to my “soundbites” collection. Thanks. I like that as much as I like this one……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6oivZ3iKr4
appleseed
January 21st, 2013
8:18 pm
For a community organizer,he puts on a good show.Yes I think the people do love him.They see in him genuine concern for the average person.Other than for some unforeseen reason he will be our President for 4 more years.So you can whine,bellyache,have your tantrums all to no avail.With some help he can heal America.
Recon 0311 2533
January 21st, 2013
8:18 pm
Fred
I’m trying to avoid feeding the jackassery myself. Even wheni it’s tempting to put their ignorance on full display.
Well don’t let anything like fear or ignorance stand in your way.
josef
January 21st, 2013
8:19 pm
TBS
Nope.
FRED
I’ll sensitive yore tacky a33!
DDR
Fred really, though, does make a point. They’ve got that aspect to deal with, too…
Soothsayer
January 21st, 2013
8:20 pm
I think it’s obvious that the reality is starting to sink in on the Fright-Wing. The reality that their “party” is being relegated to obscurity. Obscurity like mules and cookstoves. The sad reality is that they only have themselves to blame. The clown show the put on during the RepugNOwecan’t primaries. Who can forget Donald Combover, Rick Hardo, Little Rickie No Sex, Michelle Corndog, or The Fornicating Pizza Man? Oh! I almost forgot, the Head Clown, Mitt (I’ll Tell You After I’m Elected) Dumbney!
RepugNOwecan’ts: OWN IT! Don’t come crying around here looking for sympathy. You ain’t gonna get none!
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
8:21 pm
Recon 0311 2533
January 21st, 2013
8:15 pm
Only you Baptists do that. Real people have the balls to speak up to folks.
Only real people have balls, I guess yours never dropped down. Suck up to scam vet he needs your company.
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Wow really? THAT is the best you could come up with? Not even worth making fun of you for. You will have to do better than that to earn my scorn. Try again.
BATTER UP!!!!!!!!!!
TBS
January 21st, 2013
8:21 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfO8TcBa6I0
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
8:22 pm
Well don’t let anything like fear or ignorance stand in your way.
I never have, and I never will. I fear no man, and I usually feel pity and sadness for the willful ignorant that post here. Thanks for the concern, but it’s not needed over here.
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
8:23 pm
You know, I may be mistaken but I think Diaper Del doesn’t like me.
LOL!
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
January 21st, 2013
8:25 pm
Fred — Thanks for that Fred! My family is so “multi-cultural” and diverse that i take a lot of things for granted sometimes. One thing that i take for granted is how they’ve shaped us to look BEYOND the facade that a person shows the world, and to delve a little deeper.
My sister, when she dies her hair blond, could pass for a white lady with a nice tan. I’m dark chocolate and have a brother who looks like he’s from Samoa; so we’ve had to deal with people’s perceptions all of our lives, but we grew up with it so it was just THERE — we learned to ignore the stares and the oglers.
My friend though is still learning. Everytime someone says something hateful when hes with the kids, he immediately goes into the “apology mode” or the “angry mode”. When things like that used to come up with my family, my parents would just laugh. Then they’d say to us, ‘It LIVES….” (a shout out to the movie THEY LIVE where a bunch of aliens invaded humans bodies — they used to tell us that a bunch of idiots have invaded bodies of normally sane people).
Thanks. I’m going to talk to him– as a friend. and try to help him through this minefield called life with kids who look NOTHING like you!
BTW — When Dudley and I are out with my niece, who is also biracial, we get comments like, “Your daughter is soooo beautiful, etc.” BUT when we are by ourselves with her, I get evil looks from black men, and sly looks from black women. HE gets black women (probably ugly ones), giving him their number and evil looks from white women.
Crazy world we live in.
Soothsayer
January 21st, 2013
8:26 pm
And now . . . a brief musical interlude. WHY do I love this song so much?
Turn it up! FULL SCREEN PLEASE.
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
8:26 pm
TBS,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioeK425HMpE
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
8:27 pm
josef; I KEEP looking for a good “angry queen” song for you. I can’t find any. I’m about to the point where I buy some damn software and make my own lol.
I’d dedicate a song to you but last time I did Jay pulled it. BUT apropos of nothing at all here’s a tune……. (man I really miss this guy, one of my all time favorites.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAf2S6ij2gk
Recon 0311 2533
January 21st, 2013
8:27 pm
I never have, and I never will. I fear no man, and I usually feel pity and sadness for the willful ignorant that post here. Thanks for the concern, but it’s not needed over here.
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I never have, and I never will. I fear no man, and I usually feel pity and sadness for the willful ignorant that post here. Thanks for the concern, but it’s not needed over here
Good, you’ve restored my faith. I always did think you’re much better than some of the scum who post on here.
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
8:28 pm
Sooth, because Gabriel is insanely innovative and talented?!
Lord Help Us
January 21st, 2013
8:30 pm
Wow, the ODS is full-bore…
To me, it doesn’t look that different than the CDS in the 90’s. Same people, still stupid…
They will never learn.
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
8:30 pm
TBS: I have too long neglected ZZ in my playlist. but as a beer drinker AND a hell raiser, I think they wrote this for me…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCsE_sYEZUE
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
8:34 pm
For the PBS haters!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAesGRwa_6k
TBS
January 21st, 2013
8:34 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkPeqK8Ui20
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
8:35 pm
Good, you’ve restored my faith. I always did think you’re much better than some of the scum who post on here.
Funny that you say that. I quit posting or responding to you a while back because of some things you said to and about me, and nothing you said would have given me the impression that you thought of me being any better than chewed bubblegum stuck on the bottom of a piece of dung. I didn’t have anything against you then nor do I now. I didn’t understand your reason to attack me then either, but that’s not something I really cared about either.
Dharma Bum
January 21st, 2013
8:36 pm
If Mr. Bookman’s blog is any indication of Obama’s second term… it will consist of bright rainbows, rivers of chocolate, constant kumbayah sing-alongs, gum drop smiles, and nothing but sheer bliss!
If Mr. Wingfield’s blog is any indication of Obama’s second term… Jesus will be murdered on the porch of the White House to mark the beginning of a new age of liberal darkness whereby the righteous makers fall before the wicked takers and all that is good in the world is extinguished forever under the boots of radical communism!
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
January 21st, 2013
8:36 pm
TBS @ 8:13 — NP!
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josef: What “mistakes” are you seeing?
Hypersensitivity to how others react to the racial aspect. I think they should explain, maybe once or twice, then let it go. That’s basically how my family handled the situation.
Heck, when I was little, (and some people say i was bad….lies, but i felt the need to mention it here), and i was with my aunt, Mei Ing, (Vietnamese), I hid from her in the department store. When she finally found me, she was mad and smacked my behind. This black lady in the store wanted to fight her because she didn’t believe my aunt when she said that i was her niece. The store manager called the police, they were going to arrest my aunt and everything. My aunt was flustered and couldn’t remember her english and kept speaking in Vietnamese and just made the whole situation that much worse.
Well, to make a long story short, growing up with my aunt, i know Vietnamese, can’t read it, but can speak it; anywhoo when i started translating for my aunt, everyone realized that she really WAS my aunt, and not some crazy woman that went around hitting black kids and trying to kidnap them.
When we got to the car she cried. When we got home, she whipped my azz. THEN she sat down talked to me about what I’d done wrong and gave me a hug. Later on when she told my parents, they whipped my azz again. BUT afterwards, every one LAUGHED about it.
And now we have the joke, when we take the kids to the mall or something about them not doing a “Leigh”; or they’ll get a “LA Beat down”. (Leigh Azz Whipping).
Anyway, that’s some of the things my friend MAY face — and i want to warn him about it and try to get him to prepare himself and the boys for it.
TBS
January 21st, 2013
8:38 pm
Bro
Have a safe trip home. Hope you guys have had a great time.
josef
January 21st, 2013
8:38 pm
FRED
You remember that “angry queen” one? I almost adopted that for a screen name!
…and don’t let Big Daddy get under your skin…he’s just jealous because we’ll let you borrow the boa!
Recon 0311 2533
January 21st, 2013
8:40 pm
but that’s not something I really cared about either.
Good, I’m not a nice guy but I am loyal and I don’t go out of my way to hurt anyone.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 21st, 2013
8:41 pm
Rivers of Chocolate? I am sure we are saving that for Michelle’s inauguration.
TBS
January 21st, 2013
8:41 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCNOZwS5×7o
Everyone have a great night and an even better tomorrow
Peace
Soothsayer
January 21st, 2013
8:45 pm
Here’s one for Del!
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
January 21st, 2013
8:46 pm
You remember that “angry queen” one? I almost adopted that for a screen name!
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
8:48 pm
TBS
I thought I was going to have to skull drag a few people, but other than that, my trip was cool. Seeing the lil one enjoying herself was all I needed. The wife is a diehard Washington fan, so she got to shop for goods at the team store.
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
8:49 pm
Recon
No problem. I don’t come here looking to make friends.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
January 21st, 2013
8:49 pm
Is your wife from Virginia SoCoBro?
josef
January 21st, 2013
8:54 pm
DDR
Understood. And, well, yes…you do have to caution them not to get too carried away and not lose the sense of humor. After all, we don’t want them to have an attitude, now do we?
That was a funny story on your aunt. I had a similar one. I took a couple of my little latino kids to Micky D’s to celebrate one of their achievements. We were sitting there just being us when a policeman came over wanting to know who I was and what I was doing with the boys. They were a bit surprised, and him being an authority of the state and they being undocumented, they were nervous. I laughed and took out the “permission slip” from their parents stating that I was their teacher and should there be any questions…
It turned out that a bystander had called him in to check out a “suspicious” situation. He was apologetic, “I hope you understand…” Well, I guess I could’ve gotten an attitude, but he was just doing his job and, well, I DID understand…that’s why I had the permission slips to begin with…and were I the one “looking in?” The thought would certainly have crossed my mind. I would have tuned in more closely to what was going on, but that white man with two latino boys?
Tom Middleton
January 21st, 2013
8:58 pm
Jay, I see the American people increasingly holding the reins of their democracy like was intended by the Founders. I mean, once they fully realize that this is the only way to both fix Washington and keep their government on the straight-and-narrow, they will be on it ad infinitum, not just at election time.
In other words, President Barack Obama is the first president of the New Age a long time in coming. None too soon, don’t you think? Actually it’s perfect timing!
Dixie Normous
January 21st, 2013
8:59 pm
Four more years of a suck up media like Bookman slobbering all over the POS idiot. They didnt care when he sold guns to drug cartels, they didnt care when those guns killed Americans and they didnt care when our Ambassador was left defenseless in Libya.
BTW Did anyone complain about the cost of Michelles dress? Didnt think so. They save stuff like that for Republican wives.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
January 21st, 2013
8:59 pm
and, well, I DID understand…that’s why I had the permission slips to begin with…
Wink, wink. Word.
What’s that old saying? Been there, done that….
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
9:02 pm
best Alice Cooper song in my opinion…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXW9w17Tf0A
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
9:05 pm
Dixie Normous
January 21st, 2013
8:59 pm
Four more years of a suck up media like Bookman slobbering all over the POS idiot. They didnt care when he sold guns to drug cartels, they didnt care when those guns killed Americans and they didnt care when our Ambassador was left defenseless in Libya.
BTW Did anyone complain about the cost of Michelles dress? Didnt think so. They save stuff like that for Republican wives.
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Holy sht. The idiots who post and the stupidity they spew. Unfortunately they reproduce and these stupid genes continue on……..
Jm
January 21st, 2013
9:05 pm
Big government not the path to prosperity, but that’s what Obama believes
No matter
The poor will not be better off
Obama is just accelerating the day of reckoning
Move money offshore if you can
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
9:06 pm
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
January 21st, 2013
8:59 pm
and, well, I DID understand…that’s why I had the permission slips to begin with…
Wink, wink. Word.
What’s that old saying? Been there, done that….
++++++++++++++++++
You were once a gay white man with two little latino boys in a McDonalds? Well I never……….
LOL I have a bad sense of humor……….
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
9:07 pm
Jm
January 21st, 2013
9:05 pm
Big government not the path to prosperity, but that’s what Obama believes
No matter
The poor will not be better off
Obama is just accelerating the day of reckoning
Move money offshore if you can
+++++++++++++++++
Yes. Be a thief, a criminal. a traitor. It’s the republican way.
Soothsayer
January 21st, 2013
9:09 pm
Goodnight, everyone. Ol’ Sooth’s gonna go in a put his feet up next the hot woodstove. See you all tomorrow! God willing. I hope every single one of you has someone to keep you warm tonight ’cause baby it’s cold outside.
Brosephus™
January 21st, 2013
9:11 pm
DDR
She’s an Army child who was born in Germany and lived in VA before moving to Georgia.
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
9:12 pm
Sooth; The Republicans have their hatred of our President to keep them warm…….
Alex
January 21st, 2013
9:14 pm
@ Debbbie, bringing up kids in this information intensive world with Facebook and opinions and ideas available in the twinkle of a semiconductor, I feel that I have only modest understanding of my childrens ideas much less than that of even my sisters children. I stay out of their business unless something dangerous or destructive is visible (and that HAS happened and my intervention was decidedly ineffective). I think it is very difficult at times to not stereotype and that there is at times value to stereotyping (probably why at an evolutionary level we do it), yet it is the recognition of the unique aspects of life that bring continued growth and add to the the richness of the life experience….and of above all being a parent is “the best of times and the worst of times”…..
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
January 21st, 2013
9:14 pm
Ugh ………..got a conference call in a minute. Have a great night everyone and to all you cons,
Happy Obama 2nd Inauguration Day
Our journey is not complete, until our gay brothers and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law — President B. Obama Jan 21, 2013
Jm
January 21st, 2013
9:15 pm
No Fred
If I preserve wealth, one day it can be reinvested in the American economy if things change
The less destroyed by Obama, the more for future investment
But I don’t expect you to understand that
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
January 21st, 2013
9:17 pm
Alex: .and of above all being a parent is “the best of times and the worst of times”…..
Alex i just showed my Mom what you wrote, she agreed and smacked me upside my head for all the stuff that i’ve ever done that she hasn’t found out about, yet.
She and I thank you for that.
Adios! Vaya Con Dios!
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
9:20 pm
Jm
January 21st, 2013
9:15 pm
No Fred
If I preserve wealth, one day it can be reinvested in the American economy if things change
The less destroyed by Obama, the more for future investment
But I don’t expect you to understand that
++++++++++++++++++++++++
You are right, I don’t understand your pitiful excuses for lying, cheating and stealing. Your reprehensible, traitorous behavior would somehow be OK if George Bush were still President/ I don’t think so. A thieving scumbag is a thieving scumbag no matter who is President. At least admit who and what you are.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
9:22 pm
Fred says investor = thief
There you have the lib mindset
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 21st, 2013
9:22 pm
Well, I don’t know about you but tomorrow I’m going to WalMart to look for a pair of them Jimmy Choo shoes that Michelle was wearing. All the TV folk were talking about how he makes them for men and women and they’re the best in the world. I sure hope they don’t run more than 40 bucks and they come in steel toe.
Have a good night everybody.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 21st, 2013
9:25 pm
BTW, that red dress Michelle was wearing really shows off her 46″ wide butt.
Just thought I’d throw that in there.
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
9:26 pm
Move cons offshore if you can.
LOL.
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
9:26 pm
Jm
January 21st, 2013
9:22 pm
Fred says investor = thief
There you have the lib mindset
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Nope. Fred says a thief illegally moving money offshore in illegal deals = thief. YOU however and your lie = typical lying Republican. Your position is so weak that you HAVE to lie. The truth won’t serve you.
Fred ™
January 21st, 2013
9:27 pm
As far as I’m concerned JM. I would like to move you AND the .50 cents you have offshore never to return again. I’m tired of you lying, traitorous scum.
Leave.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
9:31 pm
Fred
It’s not illegal to move money offshore except in liberal utopia
Jm
January 21st, 2013
9:32 pm
Sorry Fred
Still here liar
Alex
January 21st, 2013
9:33 pm
@ fred, Obama is disliked for many reasons and some are because he challenges the status quo which many people are uncomfortable with and that is not a good philosophy toward life. He is a big picture , strategic type of person, his operational skills leave a lot to bedesired,: sure everyone believes that medical care should be available, but the program he gave us is partially unconstitutional, incredibly complex and well may be inoperable..so where does that get us. Personally, I have no problem paying higher taxes, but what about the burgeoning deficiet-it’s a real problem that by many accounts affects the continued existence of this “experiment” He should suggest a plan, a program , develop a dialogue. If this great strategist does not develop some operational characteristics, he will go down as a mediocre president and the country will suffer. Black or white, young or old, rich or poor–raising taxes for those making more than 400,000 ain’t going to cut it.Let’s get to work./..
USA Patriot
January 21st, 2013
9:33 pm
Jeepers Fred, you’re one pissed off individual. One would think you’d have your dancing shoes on and having a grand time with your president’s 2nd inauguration taking place today. Seem a bit sensitive.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
9:33 pm
Liberals basically want to reappropriate all wealth
This is what dumb people in poor countries do
That is our future
Jm
January 21st, 2013
9:35 pm
Alex
Obama doesn’t care about the deficit
Other than token lip service
Alex
January 21st, 2013
9:36 pm
@ Debbie goodnight and if you do RIGHT, why are you always on the left side of the equation? =====sorry!
Jm
January 21st, 2013
9:38 pm
We’ll have $20 trillion in debt by end of obama’s second term
Greece here we come
Jm
January 21st, 2013
9:39 pm
Obama: tax, spend
Repeat
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2013
9:40 pm
Holy crap, is MSNBC a propaganda arm of the Democratic party or what?
Seriously!
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
9:42 pm
“It’s not illegal to move money offshore except in liberal utopia”
It is if you’re doing it to avoid taxes. Ask the Swiss Banks about that
Crazy Uncle Joe Biden
January 21st, 2013
9:43 pm
The stupid will get stupider, and vote for Jughead for a third term. We don’t need no stankin constitution.
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
9:43 pm
The budget and deficit are being worked on. It’s up to congress in the end. Some laws will have to be changed to reduce spending. That’s up to congress.
Alex
January 21st, 2013
9:44 pm
@JM , Obama isn’t stupid, he’s a politician playing to his base which he will always have in this partisan country. His recent elevations of washington insiders suggests to all that he does not believe that outside opinions are helpful and he is comfortable that his strategies are correct and will win the day. He needs to play to the country, discard the far right and far left, if they won’t work with him and help the vast majority..can he do it, will he do it..?? Feb, deficit reduction talks will tell the tale……
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
9:44 pm
And Jm wants to give all the money to the 1% and hope some of it trickles down.
Now THAT is supremely stupid.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
9:44 pm
One has to wonder how the Repubs have adoration for Ronald Reagan and his VP – Dick Chaney – famously said “deficits don’t matter.”
Can’t have it both ways.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/04/1139806/–Deficits-don-t-matter-True-or-False-Both
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
9:44 pm
“The stupid will get stupider, and vote for Jughead for a third term”
I hate to be the one to break it to you…but you’ve just proven they already have gotten stupider
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
9:45 pm
dog – correct. there are legal and illegal reasons to move money offshore. and moral and immoral reasons.
USA Patriot
January 21st, 2013
9:50 pm
So there were Hillary & Bill Clinton at the inauguration and as they are leaving the ceremony a reporter asks Bill “how is Hillary’s head?” – Bill, “well, she’s no Monica”. HA!
oldguy
January 21st, 2013
9:50 pm
With you there JM,
Just converted the last of my government bonds to physical gold and sent it out of the country with my Daughter to Canada.
And don’t think its just conservatives drawng down on US investment. Most multi-national corps are parking their cash overseas. I understand from Business Weekly that Soros and Buffett, not noted for their conservative views, have both dumped billions from their US stock portfolio and moved the money to their overseas accounts.
Investing in US business now, with all the regulations and laws (Obamacare for example) is a fools folly. Go out and try to find a consumer good made in the US. Clothes, tools, even electronics, nada. Businesses are treading water hoping for a change. The middle class, especially in the blue collar work area is going the way of the dinosaurs. Service and maintenance are the only areas staying above water.
The crash of the dollar is coming, get your investments in something else!
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
9:52 pm
“One has to wonder how the Repubs have adoration for Ronald Reagan and his VP – Dick Chaney ”
Ummmm….who was Regan’s VP again?
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
9:55 pm
Those that support the Repub agenda should read this link carefully.
http://theweek.com/article/index/217524/what-caused-the-national-debt-6-culprits
Alex
January 21st, 2013
9:56 pm
@Oscar, the PRESIDENT submits A budget which then congress takes control of, this president needs to submit a budget that is viable ,cuts spending,and allows members of congress to “save face”. This is operational politics or the “sausage ” of democracy. He does not work well with the opposition and appears to have little interest in doing so, but in this he is sowing the seeds of mediocrity for this country, BOTH sides are to blame
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
9:56 pm
The con beatings will continue until their morale improves…
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
9:57 pm
“Just converted the last of my government bonds to physical gold and sent it out of the country with my Daughter to Canada”
Yeah, my Dad did something similar during WW2…and his family spent it all before he got back.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
9:57 pm
Doggone
Tax avoidance isn’t illegal
Tax evasion is
There’s a big difference
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
9:57 pm
Sorry, George H.W. Bush was Reagan’s VP, Mr. Cheyney was VP of George W. Bush.
Cloudodust
January 21st, 2013
9:58 pm
Until the MSM et al can begin to free it’s gulible masses by announcing simply that BHO begins his 2nd term instead of pointing out he’s ‘afican-American’ in the process, no strides have been made to getting over the racial cliff of unity that keeps us seperated to their degree of narcissistic expertize on the matter of racial division. Seems to be the G-spot for the dolts that want to give us what we’re to hang onto going, er, FORWARD. MLK Jr’s words indeed..!?!
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
9:59 pm
“A budget which then congress takes control of, this president needs to submit a budget that is viable ,cuts spending,and allows members of congress to “save face”. ”
Actually, no he doesn’t. He needs to present (not submit) a budget…but it could be as off the wall as he felt like, since Congress doesn’t vote on it, and it has no force at all. It’s all for show.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
9:59 pm
Alex
We’ll see
I seriously doubt there will be deficit reduction other than the trillion in sequester cuts already on the books
And even those may get tossed overboard
Don’t hold your breath
Trillion dollar deficits from here to eternity
RB from Gwinnett
January 21st, 2013
9:59 pm
Just face it, In Fred’s world, nobody who have money obtained it morally or though their own work and everybody should be working for the common good of the people. In short, Fred is a communist. He can call himself a liberal, or a progressive, or whatever the heck else he wants, but there is no difference in what he says on this board and a communist.
And he apparently didn’t get the message that liberals are supposed to be tolerant.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
10:00 pm
I will invest the profits I made selling some of my guns and ammo to cons.
Easy money to make easier money.
Thanks cons.
Doggone/GA
January 21st, 2013
10:00 pm
“Tax avoidance isn’t illegal. Tax evasion is”
If you are using tax avoidance to evade taxes…it’s illegal.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:01 pm
Old guy
I don’t have much in gold for certain reasons
But I have plenty of money invested in overseas businesses
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:02 pm
Doggone
Go talk to a tax attorney and learn the difference
Mick
January 21st, 2013
10:02 pm
jm
All talk, as if you are some authority on economics? You negate any sense you might have by comparing us to greece, that is your epic fail and you keep going down that road and all it does is prove how wrong you can be; that comparison is null and void just like most of your squawking..
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
10:03 pm
…no strides have been made…
Certainly not in the Republican’s segregated Lily White Party.
But the rest of this great melting pot called the United States of America?
Indeed there have been! Thanks to non-conservatives of all colors, creeds and ethnicities…
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
10:04 pm
Any imbecile who still sees commies everywhere is just plain pathetic.
Ask Alan West…
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:06 pm
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
9:57 pm
Sorry, George H.W. Bush was Reagan’s VP, Mr. Cheyney was VP of George W. Bush.
LinkReport this comment
Yep, sorry is the right adjective
RB from Gwinnett
January 21st, 2013
10:06 pm
“Tax avoidance isn’t illegal
Tax evasion is”
Not to a liberal. In la-la land, if you don’t pay 39.6%, you’ve cheated somehow, paid off a senator for a deduction for rich people, or something. Never mind reading what’s in the tax code, if it’s not 39.6%, you’re a cheat.
And most of them couldn’t define “effective tax rate” if their life depended on it and have no idea what their own effecitive tax rate is.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:07 pm
Mick
History doesn’t repeat, but it does rhyme
Learn the difference
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:08 pm
Mick
America is not immune to the laws of economics
Such as they are
RB from Gwinnett
January 21st, 2013
10:09 pm
“Certainly not in the Republican’s segregated Lily White Party”
Racist.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:09 pm
RB
Yes, libs are clueless
oldguy
January 21st, 2013
10:09 pm
What’s your prices Get?
Am always in the market for another nice AK to add to the bunker, at the right price. No AR 15s though, they are junk (carried a M16 in Nam, lots of the guys tossed them in the Perfume River and kept the captured AK47s,they actually worked.)
I’ll bet you are one of those fools who will dutifully march down and turn your guns and mags into the Feds when they tell you to.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:12 pm
Help in understand marginal v. effective tax rates.
http://freefrombroke.com/marginal-tax-rate-vs-effective-tax-rate-what-are-they-and-how-do-they-affect-you/
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:14 pm
Good to see Jackie has learned how to use google
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:15 pm
@oldguy
I am a Viet Nam vet, 68-69.
After they found out the problem with the M16, the black powder, it was just as effective as the AK-47.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:17 pm
@jm
I use google to help you out.
Without documentation, you still do not believe the facts.
Secondly, you should hope that you will learn how to use it for yourself.
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
10:17 pm
And most of them couldn’t define “effective tax rate”…
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the fiscal liberal thinks he pays a 39.6% effective tax rate?!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Neocons do crack me up…
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:19 pm
@jm
Anyone who pays attention to business and has education in the subject matter, knows the difference.
Matti
January 21st, 2013
10:22 pm
Awwww…. the Bidens slow dancing are just TOO CUTE!
oldguy
January 21st, 2013
10:22 pm
Jackie,
tolerances were way too tight on the 15, they jammed constantly. They had to put that push lever on the side to force the action when it jammed.
also I hate the .223 bullet. It could be deflected off of jungle folage easily the AKs 7.63mm do not, plus the AK action was so loose that you could not dump enough mud on it to jam the action.When you pulled the trigger, it shot!
appleseed
January 21st, 2013
10:23 pm
Seems like,uh who was it.now I remember that had all their money off shore Mittens Romney.Typ.con.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:26 pm
“Surveys show Americans feel less hopeful about the future under his leadership than when he first entered the White House.”
For good reason
But not enough
RB from Gwinnett
January 21st, 2013
10:29 pm
“And the fiscal liberal thinks he pays a 39.6% effective tax rate?!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
LIghen up on the bong, Jammie. You’re making less sense than usual tonight.
oldguy
January 21st, 2013
10:29 pm
Jackie,
Lost some good friends in Nam…..White,Black,Hispanic,Yankee it didn’t make any difference; they were all “Comrades in Arms!”
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:30 pm
When I sell things now, my money goes to one of four places
Canada, Taiwan, Singapore, or India
For varying reasons
I’m a traitor apparently
Crucify me you capital control loving commies
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:30 pm
@oldguy
Everything I experienced about the M16 was related to the powder, not the tolerances. Early on, there was problems with the metallurgy of the barrels in that they overheated and became unusable; once the powder problem was figured out, tests and use in our Division in I Corps, II Corps and III Corps proved the rifle was just as good.
The small round was designed to be light and easily fragment to tumble when it struck significant resistant. It entered small and exited HUGE!!!
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:31 pm
“You’re making less sense than usual tonight.”
That’s a pretty high hurdle RB
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:31 pm
@oldguy
SALUTE!!!
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:32 pm
@oldguy
Have several guys that I grew up with enshrined on the Wall in DC
oldguy
January 21st, 2013
10:32 pm
Jackie,
Back At You!!!
oldguy
January 21st, 2013
10:35 pm
Jackie,
My daughters had never seen me cry until we visited the Wall ! I had no idea it could be so powerful.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:36 pm
“Have several guys that I grew up with enshrined on the Wall in DC”
Bush’s fault presumably
Oh wait Johnson was a democrat
Assuming you’re referring to Vietnam
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:36 pm
Another foray into google shows that the only reason the world does not hold the USA and President Obama in higher regard is because of the drone strikes.
http://www.pewglobal.org/
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:37 pm
@jm
YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR F*#$%NG LEAGUE.
BUZZ OFF!
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:38 pm
War knows no party or ideology
They’re all war mongers in DC
For better or worse
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
10:38 pm
I just laugh at RB using the word define.
But hey, he has the worlds greatest financial adviser, Jm,aka Kid Singapore Sling, cuddling up to him, so maybe he is paying a 39.6% effective tax rate!
The cons do mathematics and accounting like they do science…
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:38 pm
@oldguy
I went to the Wall that travels around the country and the haunting experience is still there.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:39 pm
Jackie 10:36
Drone strikes without a formal declaration of war is abuse of executive power except in covert actions
appleseed
January 21st, 2013
10:40 pm
I can understand the question of leadership now vs in beginning.I never thought any would sacrifice the country just to make him a one termer.
oldguy
January 21st, 2013
10:41 pm
Thank you JamVet,
After all I do have an Engineering Degree!
p.s. I don’t type very well however
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:45 pm
@jm
We know that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were in violation of the War Powers Act.
Would you have us send troop to police those two countries?
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:45 pm
Jackie
We lost 10x as many people in Vietnam under Johnson than we did in Iraq under W
Sorry to remind you of that cogent fact
JamVet
January 21st, 2013
10:46 pm
Jm, like that gutless t*rd, Dick Cheney, had priorities other than military service.
oldguy and Jackie, I too, wept there.
And it just sickens me that these never-served, bloodlusting Bushbots have learned absolutely nothing from that affair…
appleseed
January 21st, 2013
10:47 pm
know nothing about arms but black powder and 7.63 mm kind of feels out of place for that time.
barking frog
January 21st, 2013
10:47 pm
Jm
are you aware that foreign banks take your money and buy US
Treasury securities?
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:47 pm
Jackie
I agree that without a declaration of war, we shouldn’t be in those countries
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:47 pm
@jm
You remind me of something that I am well aware of. What is your point?
As with Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan, none were declared wars, but, Americans were still killed!!!
What is your point????????????
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
10:48 pm
all three wars were mistakes.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:49 pm
Frog
I don’t put the money in cash at a bank
I buy equities
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:49 pm
@JamVet
To go to a vets funeral today and hear taps brings back flood of bad memories.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:49 pm
Enter your comments here
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
10:49 pm
no declarations of war. does that mean they were not wars. they seemed like wars.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:51 pm
Jackie
The point is that the expansion of executive power has gone too far and has gotten us into some serious messes and facilitates further encroachment upon the constitution
It should stop IMO
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:51 pm
Oscar
Yes they did
Constitutionally illegal
barking frog
January 21st, 2013
10:51 pm
Jm
do you think foreign stocks are safer or more profitable?
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
10:52 pm
jm – you buy stoks in canadian companies. or bank cds.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:52 pm
@appleseed
Black powder was used in the original bullets of the M16 because we had so much of it and McNamara wanted to keep the costs down.
The 7.63 is the caliber of the AK-47; it was done to insure that they could use our 7.62 but we could not use their 7.63.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:53 pm
Frog
More profitable
Possibly safer, but difficult to say with absolute certainty
barking frog
January 21st, 2013
10:53 pm
The President can do what he wants outside US borders but he
must get the money from Congress……..
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:54 pm
@jm
Essentially, we should be thankful that none of the modern Presidents have declare martial law. Executive power is like a Sunday school picnic compared to martial law.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:54 pm
Canadian co’s Oscar
barking frog
January 21st, 2013
10:54 pm
Jm
profit usually rises with risk…
getalife
January 21st, 2013
10:54 pm
If you take advice from a con like jm, you deserve to lose your money.
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
10:55 pm
whose job is it to limit exective power. believe that would be congress through impeachment.
Not sure scous has jurisdiction
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:55 pm
Oscar
I’m too young for CDs
What with living in my moms basement and wearing diapers and all that
barking frog
January 21st, 2013
10:56 pm
If the US economy falters the rest of the world goes to hell….
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:56 pm
Frog 10:54
Usually, but not always
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
10:57 pm
The greater the profit the greater the risk.
The problem is not with the initial investment in the foreign stock and the growth of said stock, it has a problem of selling that stock and declaring the gain and the exchange rate.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
10:59 pm
Frog 10:56
Probably
Just about picking the most sturdy ship for the storm
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
11:00 pm
what’s a canadian co. issuedd by the government?
Jm
January 21st, 2013
11:00 pm
Oscar
You do have to wonder why Dems never tried to impeach W
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
11:00 pm
A brief overview of executive power of the President.
http://www.cqpress.com/context/constitution/docs/constitutional_powers.html
Jm
January 21st, 2013
11:01 pm
Oscar 11 equities
Canadian companies
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
11:02 pm
jm – I have a few cds. they are for us old people. our main fear is out living our money.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
11:02 pm
Jackie 10:57 yes
But if you don’t n eed the money, you can wait a long time or forever (next generation)
Oscar
January 21st, 2013
11:04 pm
jm – since most of them voted to give him authority to use force, they could hardly do that.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
11:04 pm
@jm
You can wait forever, but your basis of the stock remain the same, your original purchase price.
The problem occurs when you sell the stock at Fair Market Value. This simple calculation determines your gain/loss.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
11:05 pm
Oscar
Yes CDs make sense when retired
If you don’t like te US, you used to be able to move money to Canada easily with RBC centura
I don’t think that is still the case tho
appleseed
January 21st, 2013
11:05 pm
Jackie thanks for the info.I know were 7.62 in rifle and carbine(all of nato)Thought the fast burning black powder would have been to corrosive.
Jm
January 21st, 2013
11:08 pm
Oscar 11:04 good point
Jackie I know
The great thing about capital gains is i get to choose when to take them
Better US policy and I sell and move money back
If not, it stays overseas
Jm
January 21st, 2013
11:09 pm
Ok I’m done tired
Later
Congrats to O
Nice family, nice guy
Awful policies
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
11:15 pm
@jm
I think you may be waiting for the wrong series of events.
The capital gains tax is being reviewed and there will be future changes to the effective rate.
Jackie
January 21st, 2013
11:23 pm
Time to turn it in.
Will return tomorrow evening.
Morality?
January 21st, 2013
11:24 pm
Obama will be known for being a PARTY LOYALIST 1st above and beyond any loyalty, if ANY, he has for this country. One unconstitutional act after another is standard under this prez. Obama will go down in history for taking YOU over the Fiscal Cliff.
Morality?
January 21st, 2013
11:27 pm
NO
CHANCE of changing the 2nd Amendment because Obama would have to get 2/3rds vote in both houses and then 3/4ths of the states to agree. EVEN the Dems are afraid of a backlash on over bearing gun control.
getalife
January 21st, 2013
11:40 pm
The policies are working or we would be back in a recession.
Reality and common sense .
keith
January 22nd, 2013
12:13 am
The few obama sheeple that actually work are complaining about their tax increase. On their website democratic underground they are upset. He was only suppose to raise taxes on the rich, not them. Fools are easily fooled.
Rabbit
January 22nd, 2013
12:27 am
Reminds one of the old Canned Heat song.
“Together we’ll stand
Divided we’ll fall
Come on now people
Let’s get on the ball
And work together
Come on, come on
Let’s work together
You know together we will stand
Every boy, girl, woman and a man”
pete
January 22nd, 2013
12:28 am
4 more years of higher deficits, higher taxes, higher unemployment, and more misery for the middle class. Add to that high gas prices as he continues his ‘green energy’ plans, and more terrorist attacks because of our weakened military. He really is doing a great job destroying the country.
I dropped my fried twinkie
January 22nd, 2013
12:32 am
OBAMA’S PLAYBOOK:
These nine rules were seized in a raid in Dusseldorf Germany, in 1919. The files were marked, “Communist Rules for Revolution”.
Read the Communist Goals below. If you have information, have an opinion on this, or can link to a new story that backs up the goals please respond in the Comments and Remarks area.
1) Corrupt the young: get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial; destroy their ruggedness.
(Tune into MTV)
2) Get control of all means of publicity. Get peoples’ minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books, plays and other trivialities.
3) Divide people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.
(Democrats are experts at class warfare and race baiting.)
4) Destroy the peoples’ faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and . (speak against, condemnatory utterances)
5) Always preach;true democracy; but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.
6) By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit; produce fear of inflation, rising prices and general discontent.
7) Foment strikes in vital industries; encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward these disorders.
9) Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext with a view of confiscation of them and leaving the population helpless.
(What political party is constantly trying to bring about more gun laws ontop of gun laws?)
Are you starting to get it now?
Rabbit
January 22nd, 2013
12:36 am
“He really is doing a great job destroying the country.”
Really? Keep saying that like the Republicans boasting about blocking a rise of the debt ceiling. Then, one day when things are better (and they’re getting there) you’ll just disappear from this blog and you you won’t say “man, was I wrong.” …but you are.
pete
January 22nd, 2013
12:38 am
Hey ‘I dropped my fried twinkie ‘…
Your above post is AWESOME! Too bad libs do not understand this.
pete
January 22nd, 2013
12:42 am
Rabbit,
Again…it is a SPENDING problem that we have.
Rabbit
January 22nd, 2013
12:43 am
Here’s a list for you.
Feeling sad or down
Confused thinking or reduced ability to concentrate
Excessive fears or worries
Extreme mood changes of highs and lows
Withdrawal from friends
Detachment from reality (delusions), paranoia or hallucinations
Inability to cope with daily problems or stress
Extreme feelings of guilt
Excessive anger, hostility or violence
pete
January 22nd, 2013
12:46 am
“Then, one day when things are better (and they’re getting there)”
I have been hearing this for 4 years now, but yet it is getting worse. Why is that?
Cherokee
January 22nd, 2013
12:49 am
“4 more years of higher deficits, higher taxes, higher unemployment, and more misery for the middle class”
And in the reality based world, the stock market is at record highs, and companies are making massive amounts of money.
I guess maybe you should share your knowledge with the business people out there, Pete. They seem to think things will be okay….
pete
January 22nd, 2013
12:54 am
Cherokee,
So, what does the stock market have to say about 2.5 million out of work, wages have been stagnant for 4 years, and no growth. Talking points are fun to throw around because it makes the uninformed sound smart.
I dropped my fried twinkie
January 22nd, 2013
12:56 am
All that buying of Stocks is producing how many jobs a day? In 4 there will be a new College Class Graduating and we are not even producing enough for those kids to fill. The college loans will default and then what?
Rasing the Debt Limit to pay interest on our debt is making things better?
When was the last time you kept spending more and your debt went down?
The More you EAT the thinner you get right?
pete
January 22nd, 2013
12:59 am
If 3.2% growth is considered minimal growth, what would you consider 0.3% growth? Obama and his disciples call that a ‘booming’ economy.
I dropped my fried twinkie
January 22nd, 2013
1:01 am
Most people that voted for Obama know more about the Kardashian’s & Jay-Z and Beyounce’s lives than they do about balancing a checkbook or the officials they vote into office to represent them.
I dropped my fried twinkie
January 22nd, 2013
1:07 am
Glenn Beck Transcript.
On October 13, 2008, President of Euro Pacific Capital Peter Schiff appeared on the Glenn Beck Show. Their most troubling exchange follows:
SCHIFF: “You know, what`s going to happen, of course, is as inflation starts running out of control and prices start going through the roof, the government again is going to focus on the symptoms and not the disease.And they are going to impose price controls on energy, on food, on a lot of other things that are vital, which means shortages, which means long lines, black markets, civil unrest. All this stuff is coming if we don`t stop. [...]
BECK: Peter, let`s talk a little bit about martial law. Why would that even be a consideration?
SCHIFF: Well, I don`t think it was a threat if they had rejected the bailout Bill, but I think it is a possibility a few years down the line. We just spoke a little bit about price controls and the effect that they are going to have.
If we have shortages of food, if we have rolling blackouts. And people are upset, and they are hungry, and they are cold, there could be civil unrest. There could be looting, rioting, and that might be the impetus for the government to declare martial law.
BECK: You know, I don`t think you`re a couple of years away from something like that. I mean, honestly, Peter, I mean, look at what`s happening. In a half hour, I`ve got a congressman on about — about the racism cries. I mean, there are people that are right now so disenfranchised, and I think being encouraged to be disenfranchised on both sides, that at any time this damn thing could break apart.
SCHIFF: Yes. And we`re giving the government so much power. And you know, you give up a lot more civil liberties. When you have martial law and you`ve got the military policing our streets, when you`ve got suspension of habeas corpus, you`ve got curfews, you can`t be out of your house after dark, and they can just pick you up and put you in prison and keep you there indefinitely without charges, and there`s nothing you can do about it?
I mean, we`re giving up one liberty after another, all to protect ourselves from this economic crisis, which needs to happen anyway, but it doesn`t need to be nearly this bad.
BECK: Peter, this is — I mean, we`re in Crazytown, USA. But my gut tells me that, two years down the road — let`s just use that number — this country is not going to look anything like it does today. Our world has changed; it just hasn`t caught up.”
On October 17, 2006, President Bush signed into law, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act. The new law allows the President to declare a “public emergency” at his own discretion, and place federal troops anywhere throughout the United States. Under this law, the President also now has the authority to federalize National Guard troops without the consent of Governors, in order to restore “public order.” The President can now deploy federal troops to U.S. cities, at will, which eliminates the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act. In short, President Obama can now declare Martial Law anytime he pleases.
An Excerpt from the John Warner Defense Authorization Act follows:
“Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies.” Section 333, “Major public emergencies; interference with State and Federal law” states that “the President may employ the armed forces, including the National Guard in Federal service, to restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition in any State or possession of the United States, the President determines that domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of (”refuse” or “fail” in) maintaining public order, “in order to suppress, in any State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy.”
On October 1, 2008 the U.S. Army´s 1st Brigade of the 3rd Infantry Division began their stateside mission under U.S. Northern Command. It was the first time that an active duty Army unit has been assigned this type of mission. They are known as the CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force. They are responsible for responding to terrorist attacks, and restoring order in case of civil unrest.
Among supposed humanitarian duties, their specific job is to provide crowd and traffic control, and to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.
In addition to their standard weapons, the 1st Brigade has been equipped with mobile road blocks, spike strips for stopping vehicles, shields and batons, beanbag bullets, and taser guns.
In September 2008, Col. Roger Cloutier told the Army Times: “It´s a new modular package of non-lethal capabilities that they´re fielding. They´ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we´re undertaking we were the first to get it.”
The soldiers of the Third Infantry Divison are battle-hardened combat veterans and have done three tours of duty in Iraq, they hardly seem suited to “crowd control” duties.
Ordinarily, such use of the military on U.S. soil would violate the law. However, with Bush´s order to suspend Posse Comitatus, the military is now free to patrol the streets of our cities and arrest American citizens.
Actually, the use of federal troops has already begun in this country. On December 10, 2008, the California Highway Patrol announced that they along with local law enforcement, and U.S. Marines to staff sobriety checkpoints. That’s right, Marines are conducting vehicle stops on U.S. soil.
The following is a press release from the CHP:
“The Morongo office of the California Highway Patrol (CHP) in conjunction with the San Bernardino Sheriff’s Department and the USMC military police will conduct a joint sobriety/driver license checkpoint on Friday, December 12, 2008, somewhere in the unincorporated/incorporated area of San Bernardino County.”
Last Fall, the Congress approved the $850 billion bailout of Wall Street, but not before the public overwhelmingly objected, which prompted the House of Representatives to initially reject the bill. Despite our objections, many Congressmen who only days earlier were adamantly opposed to any such measure, returned and voted to approve the bailout and even added $150 billion to the original bill. Why would lawmakers only a month away from an election make such a vastly unpopular move?
Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA) seems to have answered this question, though the press has largely ignored the stunning information he divulged.
Congressman Sherman on the House floor told his colleagues and the C-SPAN cameras alike: “Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday that the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousand points the first day, another couple thousand points the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no.”
Additionally, a very troubling report came out in August 2007, when KSLA-12 in Shreveport, Louisiana reported that members of the clergy have been enrolled in a federal education program, which teaches them how to “quell dissent” amongst their congregations. So-called Clergy Response Teams are being trained by FEMA to convince people to follow government orders, in the event of martial law.
The evidence that we the people, are at risk of being placed under martial law, and losing all of our rights as guaranteed by the Constitution is overwhelming.
Thirty years ago, we enjoyed the benefits of a press which took their responsibility to the public very seriously. Any signs pointing to the implementation of martial law and criminal actions committed by the federal government would have drawn the attention of our journalists.
However, in the age of “imbedded reporters,” and 90-minute network infomercials complete with anchors promoting government healthcare, our press has a much-too cozy relationship with those in government. A complicit press is making it very easy for our government to erode civil liberties.
Cherokee
January 22nd, 2013
1:10 am
Where do you think those jobs we need are going to come from Pete? You’re a con – you should know that business creates jobs.
Would you rather have the stock market in the doldrums? Would you rather have us losing 700,000 jobs per month like we were under the last President?
But hey, you get your news from Fox – so I won’t waste my time trying to convince you with facts.
Cherokee
January 22nd, 2013
1:13 am
And again, twink, in the real world, we’re selling our bonds at less than the rate of inflation.
Like Pete, you might want to enlighten all those money traders – that they should be listening to your buddy Glenn and putting their money in seed stocks rather than US Treasury bonds.
pete
January 22nd, 2013
1:15 am
Yes Cherokee, yes…the economy is just rolling along, doing great.
Oh gawd…what’s the point. Enjoy your kool-aid.
I dropped my fried twinkie
January 22nd, 2013
1:18 am
So if we were losing 700,000 jobs a month then HOW is OBAMA turning that around? By taking more out of our checks so we have less to spend and more business fail?
pete
January 22nd, 2013
1:26 am
‘I dropped my fried twinkie ‘
Good luck dude. It really is like arguing with a wall.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 22nd, 2013
5:42 am
Good Tuesday morning to all y’all…saw this article this morning…
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/21/16626932-nbcwsj-poll-majority-for-first-time-want-abortion-to-be-legal?lite
Joel Edge
January 22nd, 2013
5:46 am
Not a lot of mention about jobs. Oh well, another four years of nothing.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 22nd, 2013
5:53 am
Joel Edge
Just look to CONGRESS for the jobs bills that weren’t.
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
5:54 am
mornin’.
Not a lot of mention about jobs.
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_22419684/transcript-obamas-inaugural-address-2013
We do not believe that in this country freedom is reserved for the lucky, or happiness for the few. We recognize that no matter how responsibly we live our lives, any one of us at any time may face a job loss, or a sudden illness, or a home swept away in a terrible storm.
[...]
We cannot cede to other nations the technology that will power new jobs and new industries, we must claim its promise.
[...]
Unemployment would be much, much lower, and wages higher, if we didn’t have this bunch of do-nothing morons in the House, deliberately messing up our economy with their bufoonish worship of tax cuts and austerity.
(ok, I made up the last one.)
Cornell West Goes OFF on Obama (Video)
January 22nd, 2013
5:56 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA6MCjGEsTg
you can't fix stupid or Democrats or liberals
January 22nd, 2013
6:06 am
four more years of perverts being in control of US Government…..but God’s laws have not changed more Sandy’s, earthquakes, floods, fires, droughts until we repent of our sins.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 22nd, 2013
6:10 am
Yep
CONGRESS is in charge of the laws passed PERVERTING the right way to live
Granny Godzilla
January 22nd, 2013
6:14 am
Perverts?
And they wonder why they are not taken seriously.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
6:25 am
Corbin – 5:42 – praise the lord and pass the boiled peanuts!!!
it’s about flippin’ TIME the majority of Americans woke up and realized what was going on with reproductive rights!!!
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 22nd, 2013
6:26 am
GG
get your butt in gear to support the 1% ers
makers vs takers
January 22nd, 2013
6:27 am
Mnay good comments on here from fellow conservatives. Liberal thought and policies benefit only the gov’t controllers.
Now to another point, back to page 1. Liberals somehow see abortion as a constitutional right even though abortion, or birthing babies is never mentioned in the constitution. Meanwhile, says in black and white, “…the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”. Seems clear to me which one of these rights is clearly enumerated in the constitution.
A womans most important duty on this earth is to protect her OWN child. What a sickness to kill your unborn child purely as a choice. I know liberals don’t want to hear this, as facing the consequences of murdering your own child is upsetting. Nothing shows how evil liberals are more than their THRILL and MASSIVE support for baby killing!
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 22nd, 2013
6:29 am
Good morning USinUK,
Got to tell you, You have made me a hero in my own family house! Your chicken pot roast was a big hit. It is, I’m sure, going to be a family favorite from now on. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 22nd, 2013
6:30 am
USinUK
I love white beans
Does that mean I am a rascist?
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
6:39 am
Common – 6:30 – I can’t stand red beans – what does THAT mean?
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
6:41 am
Corbin – you are welcome! welcome! welcome! glad you and yours loved it as much as the mister and I did!!
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
6:41 am
” Nothing shows how evil liberals are more than their THRILL and MASSIVE support for baby killing!”
yeppers.
that’s me.
evil. evil. evil.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
6:47 am
“Liberals somehow see abortion as a constitutional right”
I suggest you read the 4th and 14th – privacy from government and the rights to control our own body.
unless you want to advocate for forced pregnancy.
Plain Truth
January 22nd, 2013
6:55 am
More children will be aborted! 55million so far and many more to come thanks to Obama!
Doggone/GA
January 22nd, 2013
6:56 am
“More children will be aborted”
It’s impossible to abort a child…so you lie
Wilbur
January 22nd, 2013
7:01 am
Four more years of Obama will bring hatred and division and enough of the illusion of progress to keep his dimwitted followers in line. The last four years have brought misery and failure to the very people who vote for Obama in perfect alignment. It’s sad really.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
7:02 am
“and many more to come thanks to Obama!”
wow.
he IS a busy boy.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
7:03 am
“Four more years of Obama will bring hatred and division”
you seem to be doing just find on that score all by yourself, you don’t need any help.
Doggone/GA
January 22nd, 2013
7:04 am
“Four more years of Obama will bring hatred and division and enough of the illusion of progress to keep his dimwitted followers in line”
Projection at it’s best
makers vs takers
January 22nd, 2013
7:06 am
But where is abortion mentioned in the constitution? Right to keep and bear arms clearly written. I think it shows what is important to liberals! Forced pregnancy is called rape. Yea, you have the moral high road, as nothing says morallity like killing and unborn child.
Doggone/GA
January 22nd, 2013
7:09 am
“But where is abortion mentioned in the constitution?”
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated”
And especially: “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people”
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
7:09 am
mvt – as Hamilton said, he didn’t want to enumerate the things covered in the constitution because of numpties like you – “it’s not mentioned in the Constitution, so it’s not covered”
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 22nd, 2013
7:11 am
Heh, heh, I knew when I posted that, it would be a rage.
Fact remains that a woman owns her body, not the government. You really want to stop abortion, then understand that we are a sexual people, just the way God made us, so make contraception available for all…then watch abortion rates fall.
makers vs takers
January 22nd, 2013
7:13 am
“freedom reserved for the lucky… happiness for the few” So now we have the obligation to get these liberal takers happy? Can’t be done. Nothing is unhappy as a liberal, jealousy is their motivation. I, as a conservative, are responsible for my own happiness, not the gov’ts job to make me happy. You liberals are free to make yourselves happy, but under normal circumstances this would require work and effort, something liberal attitiudes will not allow. YOU, YOU, YOU are responsible (financially and otherwise) for your happiness
vinny
January 22nd, 2013
7:14 am
he promises more of the same – more joblessness, more wasted money on “green” initiiatives as he pursues the lie of global warming.
more of the same. Obama brings nothing but hopelessness and despair. The country is in a depression because of this imbecilic re-tard named barack.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
7:14 am
“Nothing is unhappy as a liberal”
heehee … all evidence to the contrary, going by this morning’s posts …
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
7:16 am
“he pursues the lie of global warming”
droughts in the US, floods in the UK, hottest day on record in Australia …
nope. nothing to see here. move along.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 22nd, 2013
7:18 am
Liberals somehow see abortion as a constitutional right
Have you even read Roe v Wade?
makers vs takers
January 22nd, 2013
7:19 am
How is conrtaception not available to all? Damn, Liberals need someone else to pay for EVERYTHING. And Doggone, that only applies to abortion!? If you make too much money as defined by liberal politicians, we have the right to take your money and give to worthless takers!
Selective application of constitution, a liberal specialty.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
7:20 am
vinny
January 22nd, 2013
7:14 am
he promises more of the same – more joblessness, more wasted money on “green” initiiatives as he pursues the lie of global warming.
more of the same. Obama brings nothing but hopelessness and despair. The country is in a depression because of this imbecilic re-tard named barack.
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More words of hate and fear from our AM driveby hater.
Suck it baby, you and your loser talk radio/FOXBOT ideas LOST. You backed a LOSER. You spend all day listening to hate filled LOSERS. Do you know what that makes you?
You guessed it.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
7:20 am
“Have you even read Roe v Wade?”
ooooo … can we place bets on that one???
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
7:21 am
More children will be aborted! 55million so far
No “children” have been aborted.
Please get help.
http://www.mhresources.com/
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 22nd, 2013
7:21 am
Pursuit of Happiness….
Now where have I heard those words before that were mentioned by the President? Hmmmm…….. What I did not hear was “the gov’t is gonna make you happy”. Maybe it was in the same imaginary speech that the cons hear about “we’re coming for your guns” and “Socialism rocks!”
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
7:23 am
makers vs takers: All YOU “make” is hate and posts filled with jealously and rage because you LOST and your ideas are loser ideas. You have to blame your miserable life and failings on someone so in your hate filled mind you create this sub-set of “sub humans” that you call losers. It helps you feel good about what a loser in life you really are to blame someone else. It gets you a target to focus your rage and self loathing on.
You should seek help.
Doggone/GA
January 22nd, 2013
7:23 am
“And Doggone, that only applies to abortion!?”
Looks like I hit a nerve
makers vs takers
January 22nd, 2013
7:23 am
I am one of the lucky ones (conservative) that has freedom and happiness available to me right now. You see, I earned it. I don’t need a politician to take from others to secure my happiness. God gave me the ability to be happy and free. Roe v Wade is a court decision, not written into constitution as the right to keep and bear arms. And we makers got plenty of arms to bear. I know libs hate that.
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
7:23 am
About that decision from 40 years ago:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323301104578255831504582200.html
Seven in 10 Americans believe Roe v. Wade should stand, according to new data from a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, as the landmark Supreme Court abortion-rights ruling turns 40 on Tuesday.
That is the highest level of support for the decision, which established a woman’s right to an abortion, since polls began tracking it in 1989. The shift is mostly the result of more Democrats backing the decision—particularly Hispanics and African-Americans—and a slight uptick in support from Republicans.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 22nd, 2013
7:23 am
USinUK
Do you just want to send me the check now? 
Brosephus™
January 22nd, 2013
7:24 am
Funny that the angry and disgruntled come here talking about 4 more years of division. You can’t expect unity when you sow and project division.
Mick
January 22nd, 2013
7:25 am
Yes….by all means lets go back to the bush era of? Forgetaboutit…
Doggone/GA
January 22nd, 2013
7:26 am
“I am one of the lucky ones ( ) that has freedom and happiness available to me right now”
Welcome to the club
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
7:26 am
How is conrtaception not available to all
Were you in a coma during that month where Rush Limbaugh watched much of his revenue stream go bye-bye?
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
7:26 am
Hey Bro!! did you have a good time yesterday!! at least it was a lot warmer than 4 years ago
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
7:27 am
Wilbur
January 22nd, 2013
7:01 am
Four more years of Obama will bring hatred and division and enough of the illusion of progress to keep his dimwitted followers in line. The last four years have brought misery and failure to the very people who vote for Obama in perfect alignment. It’s sad really.
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Check out the irony in THIS hate filled loser post. He simply oozes hate and rage from every pore and it’s evident in his hate filled words. Wilbur, the sad angry little man, is the one sowing hate and division. He’s the one repeating the hate filled vitriole of the talk radio/FOXBOT idiots. He’s the one too dense to see that those idiots LIED and backed a loser.
It’s getting sad now. The LOSERS had one goal. Make Obama a one term President and they FAILED. They FAILED because they are LOSERS.
And now they are angry hate filled losers. It’s a dangerous combination. how soon until one of them snaps? You see it everyday here, one of them at least will threaten another poster here with violence……..
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
7:29 am
Were you in a coma during that month where Rush Limbaugh watched much of his revenue stream go bye-bye?
No he was in the same state of denial that he still resides in. Rush told him in a newsletter that HE fired those sponsors and this guy believed him lol, and then sent him $100..,…….
Granny Godzilla
January 22nd, 2013
7:29 am
makers vs takers
not the new sock puppet, but the whole tired meme
there are makers. most of us are makers. whether we make big things or make little things. whether
we make i pads or make cars. whether we make beds or make dinner.
there are takers. fraud in TANF or food stamps. fossil fuel subsidies and wall street bonuses.
most though, that use the “makers and takers” meme to advance their failed supply side agenda are fakers.
fake patriots, fake christians. fake thinkers.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 22nd, 2013
7:29 am
I love it when Fred pulls his punches and really holds back.
makers vs takers
January 22nd, 2013
7:30 am
Fred- Yea, I am appealling to my govt daddy to make me happy! Sure, conservatives loss, but I will always be happier and more content than a liberal.
Say you need to accomplish something, you know, work around the house or some other job, do yuou want a liberal contractor (oops, sorry, I did not plan on that, this could have happened to anyone, can’t do job as quoted) or a conservative contractor who does the job as quoted and will not accept failure?
Any work that has ever been done has been done with people with a conservative attitude. And govt jobs are not work. Moving paperwork from In box to Out box after checking line 32 is not work. Not a net tax payer
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 22nd, 2013
7:30 am
makers vs takers
January 22nd, 2013
7:19 am
First I’ve got to say your blog name shows your prejudice so you probably won’t get this.
The constant warfare on Womens Health Clinics like Planned Parenthood, makes contraceptives unavailable for the woman you doesn’t have healthcare and can’t afford out of pocket expense of the products. That is why Contraceptives need to be inexpensive and over the counter.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
7:32 am
“Say you need to accomplish something, you know, work around the house or some other job, do yuou want a liberal contractor (oops, sorry, I did not plan on that, this could have happened to anyone, can’t do job as quoted) or a conservative contractor who does the job as quoted and will not accept failure?”
ohmysweetbabyjeebus, that’s the funniest thing I’ve read since … well … anything that quotes Sarah Palin.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
7:32 am
makers vs takers
January 22nd, 2013
7:23 am
I am one of the lucky ones (conservative) that has freedom and happiness available to me right now. You see, I earned it. I don’t need a politician to take from others to secure my happiness. God gave me the ability to be happy and free.
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Then why are you so angry and hate filled and spewing your venomous lies all over the internet here? Your words don’t match your actions you angry, hate filled, little man. You are here all puffed up like a blow fish spoiling for a fight. That’s not the action of a happy guy, that’s the action of a hate filled angry loser.
I missed the part in the bible where God told everyone to go to a message board and spew venomous hate filled angry lies all over the internet………
makers vs takers
January 22nd, 2013
7:33 am
The NRA is taking in new members hand over fist. My kids lived to get out of the uterus, why not give all kids the same opportunity to get out of the womb? Why deny them that right?
middle of the road
January 22nd, 2013
7:34 am
The next four years?
Maybe in the next four years a family that could not get health insurance due to a pre-existing condition now can. Maybe the “moocher” young entrepreneur that makes $100,000 a year but doesn’t have insurance because he doesn’t think he needs it will HAVE to buy insurance. Maybe the economy will continue its slow but upward growth. Maybe the housing market will continue its rebound. Maybe unemployment will continue downward (wish it were faster).
On the other hand – we can almost guarantee that the next four years will be constant Congressional gridlock, with neither party willing to COMPROMISE and do some REAL work on the deficit (forget talking about the DEBT).
Maybe both side could reach a “middle of the road”, realistic compromise on immigration reform ( I won’t hodl my breath on that one either).
Jerome Horwitz
January 22nd, 2013
7:34 am
Mr.Ed kicked Wilbur in the head again.
Mick
January 22nd, 2013
7:35 am
**Why deny them that right?**
That’s it…then..you want nothing to do with them…there’s your hypocrisy!!!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 22nd, 2013
7:36 am
Liberal v conservative contractors?
I am with USinUK…. funniest thing I have ever heard. 
But I am sure being the genius that he is, makers can show me the difference in their contracts and how they operate.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
7:36 am
And now Makers vs Takers is spewing his hate filled vitriole on the military and the fbi, and the cia, and all our federal law enforcement agencies.
Why do you hate teh military Makers? Did you get beat up by a soldier? Did one take your girlfriend once?
Is there ever a limit to what you hate filled angry little talk radio FOXBOTS hate on? Do you EVER hate enough? Can you NEVER be happy? It must be so sad being you. Does the hate cause you physical pain? One can only hope…….
Granny Godzilla
January 22nd, 2013
7:36 am
makers and takers
Have you considered a womb transplant?
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
7:37 am
“Then why are you so angry and hate filled and spewing your venomous lies all over the internet here? ”
seriously, nothing says “I’m so effing happy” quite like the bile this guy is spewing.
makers vs takers
January 22nd, 2013
7:37 am
Shower, work, taxes. Send my taxes to Fred (trademark) and other takers. Please don’t kill me, allow me to be born, cries the unborn. Sure, hits a nerve. And encouraging people to work is so hate filled. Pay your own way, liberal dipstick.
Questioner
January 22nd, 2013
7:38 am
So if an embryo is really a child from conception, what did you name YOUR embryo after sex? Did you have a funereal for the fertilized egg when it did not implant? Should we start baptizing fertilized eggs, since they are people? Just questioning…
Granny Godzilla
January 22nd, 2013
7:38 am
makers and takers
did you get your NRA membership at the old price or the new discounted price?
you can now get gun hysteria on sale!
Doggone/GA
January 22nd, 2013
7:38 am
“Why deny them that right?”
Take it up with God (or Mother Nature, if you prefer) That was who gave women sole and total control over what happens to their bodies. When you can PROVE that spontaneous abortions (aka: miscarriages) NEVER, EVER occur…then maybe you’ll have a point. But until then…no, you have none.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 22nd, 2013
7:39 am
Give Maker a fainting couch or nominate him for a best actor Oscar. This person does emotional vitriol well…
Granny Godzilla
January 22nd, 2013
7:39 am
hits a nerve?
ah nope.
tickles the funny bone and
pricks the pity ( and the reverse)
makers vs takers
January 22nd, 2013
7:39 am
Military is a legitimate role of gov’t. I salute military. Most all gov’t workers are WAY, WAY, overpaid.
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
7:39 am
The NRA lies a lot, and I don’t doubt that they’re lying about their membership rolls as well.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
7:40 am
USinUK, it’s funny to see what they will post next. What’s even funnier is that they are so dense and brain dead from hour after hour of Rush and Fox that they actually think they are saying something either clever, funny, or meaningful.
Keep; Yeah I need to take the gloves off dont I? LOL But they can’t handle it, they start crying.
Oh well, you can tell when lil lair Kyle wakes up and lets themn post over in a safe haven again because they all leave. I wish that loser would get up earlier in the morning and let his hate filled angry little losers post where they belong and are protected. It would should cut down on the unmitigated garbage over here………
But look at the fun we would be denied if they weren’t here to laugh at and taunt.
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
7:40 am
Hey, takers?
Don’t care to face the inconvenient truth of that WSJ/NBC news poll cited @ 7.23?
http://pollingreport.com/abortion2.htm
How about ABC/WaPo, from 2010?
“The Supreme Court legalized abortion 37 years ago in the ruling known as Roe versus Wade. If that case came before the court again, would you want the next justice to vote to uphold Roe versus Wade, or vote to overturn it?”
Uphold: 59%
Or CBS News/New York Times?
“More than 35 years ago, the Supreme Court’s decision in Roe versus Wade established a constitutional right for women to obtain legal abortions in this country. In general, do you think the Court’s decision was a good thing or a bad thing?”
Good thing: 58%
“Would you like to see the Supreme Court overturn its 1973 Roe versus Wade decision concerning abortion, or not?”
Not overturn: 64%
Scroll through that sampling of polls I’ve linked. The public has been solidly behind this decision for many years.
It’s way past time for the childish men (and they’re mostly men) like you crying “baby-killer!” every time this anniversary comes up, to be publicly shamed and marginalized. And it’s time that the Federal Justice Department do something about those states that are trying to re-criminalize the procedure by making it impossible for women to obtain the medical care they need in certain backward states.
makers vs takers
January 22nd, 2013
7:41 am
NRA going gangbusters dude. Free people making decisioon to protect 2nd ammendment. Oh yea, happening BIG TIME! buh-bye.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
7:41 am
“Most all gov’t workers are WAY, WAY, overpaid.”
thanks for showing your exhaustive research and enumerating specifics
makers vs takers
January 22nd, 2013
7:42 am
“Medical care” = abortion? Sick.
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
7:43 am
“What’s even funnier is that they are so dense and brain dead from hour after hour of Rush and Fox that they actually think they are saying something either clever, funny, or meaningful. ”
criminey, after reading MvT this morning, I’d just settle for COHERENT. I mean, “NRA going gangbusters dude. Free people making decisioon to protect 2nd ammendment. Oh yea, happening BIG TIME! buh-bye.” ?????
let this be an object lesson: don’t drink and blog.
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
7:44 am
Yes. Medical care does sometimes equal abortion. Suck it, taker.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 22nd, 2013
7:44 am
I guess makers vs takers has gone to go play with his “gun”…
USinUK - just grateful not to be snowbound
January 22nd, 2013
7:44 am
““Medical care” = abortion? Sick.”
yes.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2264496/Savita-Halappanavar-Coroner-promises-transparent-inquest.html
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
7:45 am
Run back to your Fundie bubble, taker. You steaming-hot misogyny is not going to be coddled here.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
7:47 am
makers vs takers
January 22nd, 2013
7:39 am
Military is a legitimate role of gov’t. I salute military. Most all gov’t workers are WAY, WAY, overpaid.
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no you don’t. Don’t lie. You said: And govt jobs are not work. Moving paperwork from In box to Out box after checking line 32 is not work. Not a net tax payer
Military is Gov’t jobs. You are the type of miserable hate filled talk radio FOXBOT who cheered Romnet when he called the military serving in war zones MOOCHERS because they don’t pay taxes.
Don’t deny your words, they are here for all to see. Such a hate filled angry little Foxbot, and this early in the day too. I guess he’s mad because he has no job and instead of blaming the right people, the millionaire TAKERS he’s blaming the President and those evil “libruls.” He doesn’t know what a “librul” is except that it’s anyone without their head up Rush’s butt…………. he doesn’t know a “librul” from a socilaist from a communist from a “taker.” These are all just talk radio/FOXBOT buzz words he spews out in his hate filled angry little posts here.
Why must you be such an angry young man? You’re fooling yourself………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtzIWPeun7c
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
7:48 am
NRA going gangbusters dude.
They fluff their membership rolls like a porn bench-warmer.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 22nd, 2013
7:49 am
Well it is clear that our extreme wingnut haters in the GOP are not going to fade quietly. They are going to whine, lie, cheat, distort, and deny other constitutional rights to force their agenda on others and then I suspect many are going to get violent. We’ll see more craziness.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
7:50 am
I guess lil liar Kyle open the doors so MvT could go home to the place where stupidity is not only protected, it’s REVERED.
Darn, there went the morning fool………
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
7:51 am
More about the lying NRA.
It seems that some of the inflation comes from doing what the Mormons do – counting the dead. Yes, you read that correctly. Journalist Osha Gray revealed to Mother Jones that the numbers are inflated by at least one million.
“Two years ago, David Gross, then an NRA board member, confided to me that a substantial number of the group’s 1 million Life Members are, well, dead. “There just isn’t that much incentive to go find out when someone passes away,” Gross explained. ‘Not when the cost of maintaining (a dead member) is minimal and when they add to your membership list.’”
Another way that the organization fudges its numbers is by requiring someone to become a member in order to practice shooting at their local range. Not all ranges require this, but some choose to do it so that they can qualify for grant money from the NRA. It’s hard to fathom exactly how many clubs require this of their members, but surely the number cannot be discounted.
One other way that the NRA adds fake members is through membership drives. Like any organization that is trying to increase membership, it acquires lists that contain people’s names and addresses. It sends postcards to people on the list, and if they send it back, their name gets added to the membership rolls. In fact, there’s a case where someone received one of those postcards and sent it back with comments that they did not want to belong. Lo and behold, the person received their very own NRA membership card. Knowing that the organization doesn’t care to clean up its membership rolls by checking to see if someone has passed away, it’s highly probable that they would ignore what someone writes on a postcard, and enroll them anyway.
This deception in membership numbers may not seem that important. However, in light of the recent backlash against the NRA for lack of cooperation to close loopholes in the law, and even finger-pointing at other causes for mass shootings, this only points out the hypocrisy of it all. If the NRA is willing to lie about something as simple as how many people have joined the organization willingly, it brings into question many other issues that impact everyone, whether or not they own a gun. It compels the question, what else are they lying about?
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
7:53 am
Keep: I seriously expected at least one incidence of violence at the inauguration yesterday. They are really losing it. Rush can’t ratchet up the hate any more without promoting violence, he already has the hate volume maxed out. The Rove blow up on election night was just a precursor in my judgement. It won’t be long until they crack.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 22nd, 2013
7:57 am
Fred, I somewhat feared the same thing. Guys like that nut in TN are very troubling and have some real mental issues.
Butch Cassidy (I)
January 22nd, 2013
7:58 am
The GOP concentrating on the next 4 years seems a bit shortsighted. They should really be looking at 2024 when they may actually have a shot at the Whitehouse again.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
7:58 am
You know dB, I could be an NRA member and not even know it. my dad was a lifetime member YEARS before they became a nutcase organization and he may have signed us up as kids for a life time membership back in the 70’s………..
Although he’s been dead 15 years or so, I wouldn’t be surprised if they still carry him as a member lol.
Granny Godzilla
January 22nd, 2013
7:59 am
Fred
I understand there were some protesters in DC’s chinatown area that did some damage and shut down a hooters….left a bunch of anti-government lit laying about
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
8:00 am
Butch; That’s kind of scary too. With no real competition what’s to stop the far left nutcases from taking their party to the lunatic fringe like the far right nutcases did with the Republican party? THAT is why we need a strong SANE Republican party. They have REALLY let America down the miserable selfish pricks.
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
8:02 am
Although he’s been dead 15 years or so, I wouldn’t be surprised if they still carry him as a member lol.
Nor would I.
The NRA has “4 million members” like Rush Limbaugh has “20 million listeners.”
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
8:03 am
Shut down a HOOTERS? Why that’s just un-american………..
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
8:05 am
I heard the cons are really upset with their loss of an additional 2% of their take home pay to taxes that could have otherwise gone toward the purchase of another AR-15. Conned are losers in so many ways, I can’t even keep track of them all.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
8:07 am
Hey Keep, did you read this one? What took so long………
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/isue4u-state-sued-over-banned-vanity-plates/nT3th/
JamVet
January 22nd, 2013
8:07 am
Military is a legitimate role of gov’t.
Uncle Sam/America hating traitors and ignoramuses do not get to define the legitimate goal of government.
Just keep getting used to getting stomped at the polls every other November, OK?
Thank you.
godless heathen
January 22nd, 2013
8:09 am
That is why Contraceptives need to be inexpensive and over the counter.
I think they should be dispensed freely on every street corner. Especially in in areas where people cannot afford to support children and are uninterested or too ignorant to raise children that will become positive contributing members to society
Escaped from Email Purgatory
January 22nd, 2013
8:10 am
Ten reasons why I didn’t watch the Inauguration
1. Curiously, watching Soledad O’Brien spontaneously and repeatedly achieve climax on air didn’t have the allure I thought it would
2. Ditto Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper, Chris Matthews, Brian Williams, Paul Begala and that David Gregory guy with the giant, marionette head
3. Is Aretha singin’ the National Anthem again? Heck, I might tune in just to watch the crane hoist her up to the podium.
4. I’ve already seen the First Lady’s new haircut.
5. I suffer bouts of nausea after extended exposure to liberal ecstasy
6. Roland Martin’s cowboy hat. Heck, Rowland Martin, period. Is he still talking?
7. Watching BHO’s swearing in is like watching your dentist prepare the instruments he’ll use for the root canal he’s fixing to perform on you. Will Obamacare cover that?
8. Falcons / 49ers highlights are running in a continuous loop all day baby! Darn, I really don’t want to watch the Inauguration, do I?
9. I think Oprah’s gonna be there. I’ve seen enough of Oprah on ESPN this week
10. I don’t have time. I’m too busy dating Manti T’eo’s girlfriend
Skip
January 22nd, 2013
8:13 am
Nothing defines the winner more than the poor loser. Why do Cons hate out form of government? What happened to the “America, love it or leave it” of the Bush years?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 22nd, 2013
8:13 am
Fred, I read the original story. Seems like Deal needs to tell them to get their act together. I am waiting for the state to deny a “In Allah We Trust” request after they permit “In God We Trust”.
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
8:13 am
Banks are now offering five-year loans to cons to allow them the freedom they deserve–a brand new AR-15. A con with the typical credit score can own their very own AR-15 for the low, low monthly price of $129.99. Taxes, insurance and other financing fees due at signing. Other restrictions apply. Con-tact your local bank today for an appointment. Flex hours are available to work into your busy Burger King schedule.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
8:13 am
No wonder David Letterman is getting his ass kicked in the rankings. That really sucked.
Thomas
January 22nd, 2013
8:13 am
I don’t have time. I’m too busy dating Manti T’eo’s girlfriend
Cannot be true!! I spent the weekend with her in Madrid, I mean Montgomery, I mean I spoke to her, well maybe I got a text from her. Anyway- hands off- she/he/or it is taken.
indigo
January 22nd, 2013
8:14 am
makers vs takers – 7:30
That is one of the stupidest posts I’ve ever read here.
Peace
January 22nd, 2013
8:16 am
Class of 98 @ 1:07 p.m. — Thanks for packing Jay’s lunch.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
8:16 am
Keep, I also read teh original story and wondered why there hadn’t been a law suit yet. I’m not a lawyer, but even I recognized that without a set “policy” they were setting themselves up for being sued. What a waste of taxpayer money.
What happens if they send the guy his gay plate, does that settle the suit or are we going to get stuck with a big price tag on this lawyers money grab?
alex
January 22nd, 2013
8:17 am
@ escaped: good humor for ANY party…Fred, granny jamvet, Jays echo chamber–come up with something unique, not just cutting, you guys are just mirror personalitiies and opinions of each other, how boring…..Think outside your self imposed box, challenge yourself…..
indigo
January 22nd, 2013
8:17 am
Escaped – 8:10
The Obama inaugration was a day in paradise compared to what watching a Romney one would have been.
alex
January 22nd, 2013
8:19 am
Add taxpayer to the chorus of rubes, loans and ar15′— are you that bored?, go read a book and contribute an idea….
Granny Godzilla
January 22nd, 2013
8:20 am
alex
why waste unique on flat earthers?
geez.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
8:23 am
alex
January 22nd, 2013
8:17 am
@ escaped: good humor for ANY party…Fred, granny jamvet, Jays echo chamber–come up with something unique, not just cutting, you guys are just mirror personalitiies and opinions of each other, how boring…..Think outside your self imposed box, challenge yourself…..
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you are typical of your breed. You think thta was “funny” because it was against Obama and put down some CNN people. But there was no humor in it. Except for number 10 it was dumber than dog squeeze.
You listen to talk radio and fox all day so you will know what to think and YOU talk about thinking outside a box? LOL You angry little guys get funnier all the time.
Now if you want to see something anti-Obama that WAS funny check this out……….
http://twitpic.com/9jyrvh
Doggone/GA
January 22nd, 2013
8:23 am
“Think outside your self imposed box, challenge yourself…..”
Have you ever thought of taking your own advice for a change?
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
8:24 am
alex needs attention. someone give him some attention. i’m busy writing, er, um, i mean, reading, a book so i can contribute as much as alex does.
godless heathen
January 22nd, 2013
8:26 am
I am waiting for the state to deny a “In Allah We Trust” request after they permit “In God We Trust”.
I requested one of the pasties that says “IN GOD WE TRUST” last time I renewed my tag. My tag now reads “IN DOG WE TRUST”. Probably get me a ticket or a head bashing one day.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
8:26 am
SO now we have the angry little hate filled FOXBOT alex on to hurl crap up against the wall to see what he can get to stick.
These guys work in shifts lol? Like a chain gang? Working in a coal mine?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms79633njIg
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
8:26 am
Brosephus gets mad props for that photo
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
8:27 am
alex is upset because the bank turned down his AR-15 loan application.
Williebkind
January 22nd, 2013
8:30 am
“You steaming-hot misogyny is not going to be coddled here.”
Your remark is simply a lie just like the liar your are.
“More about the lying NRA.”
You do not believe there is a 2nd amd. do you? If is “is” is then define arms, and infringe. This should be filled with lots o your opinion and not fact…just like your long narrative above and I got bored reading the first paragraph…..liberals sure are funny but are becoming very dangerous to a representative society.
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
8:30 am
It’s against the law to display a license plate in Georgia without the appropriate county identification unless you choose to display “In God We Trust” in its place.
barking frog
January 22nd, 2013
8:31 am
Taxpayer
alex is upset because the bank turned down his AR-15 loan application.
…………………………………………………………………..
and failed his background check….
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
8:32 am
Taxpayer: I thought they did away with the County designation………….
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
8:32 am
be a skeered, willieb. be vewwwwy a skeered. there’s dangerous liberals all around you. watching waiting.
Williebkind
January 22nd, 2013
8:33 am
Newsweek…
The second coming! Now if that is not offensive to a large group of Americans there is no offense. Of course I also read they having a tough time selling that liberal crap.
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
8:33 am
IDK, Fred. Did they?
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
8:33 am
TaxPayer: It’s against the law to display a license plate in Georgia without the appropriate county identification unless you choose to display “In God We Trust” in its place.
CRIMINALS will do it anyway…..
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
8:35 am
Williebkind: The second coming! Now if that is not offensive to a large group of Americans there is no offense
They did it specifically to piss people like you off. And you played right into their hands…. The devil is in anger and hate, Mr. Willie.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
8:35 am
You do not believe there is a 2nd amd. do you? If is “is” is then define arms, and infringe. This should be filled with lots o your opinion and not fact…just like your long narrative above and I got bored reading the first paragraph…..liberals sure are funny but are becoming very dangerous to a representative society.
See what I mean? They are working themselves up to armed violence. You combine second amendment rhetoric with “libs are dangerous to America” and it’s a small step to ‘’shoot libs, they are anti-american.”
They are screwing p their courage and loading their guns. Pretty soon one of these nutcases is going to crack……….
Williebkind
January 22nd, 2013
8:36 am
“be a skeered, willieb. be vewwwwy a skeered. there’s dangerous liberals all around you. watching waiting.”
That is funny! These liberals watching me are crybabies and all I have to do is mention I have an assault rifle, a 22 magnum semi-auto rifle, and they crap all over themselves.
DannyX
January 22nd, 2013
8:38 am
Wow, the inauguration really has upset the cons. I really think we should show them a little love, they really are suffering. It’s like they are showing all the stages of Republican grief at one time, anger, depression, pain, anger, and of course more anger.
Don’t worry Republicans the depression and pain will go away soon and you’ll be back to just your your normal angry selves. Keep hope alive! Stay away from bridges and ledges.
Oh, and God Bless.
godless heathen
January 22nd, 2013
8:38 am
It’s against the law to display a license plate in Georgia without the appropriate county identification unless you choose to display “In God We Trust” in its place.
My little bit of civil disobedience. If I get busted, maybe the ACLU will take my case.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
8:39 am
Fred: They are working themselves up to armed violence.
I am not particularly worried. For one thing, any attempt at armed revolution will be against such modest proposals that true public support won’t be on their side (even worse than the gap between a perceived Romney landslide and the actual Obama victory). Second, even the dumbest among them know this. Only the truly TRULY crazy people will go on shooting sprees, and they will be mass shootings, and random, seemingly not connected to political stuff, and add more fuel to the gun control debate. They whip themselves into a frenzy just to cause the very thing they claim to want to prevent.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
8:39 am
Come on willie, preach your hate and anger. Let the lies flow. Spew forth an eruption of angry hate filled lies. Show us the true meaning of what it means to be a card carrying Rush Limbaugh FOXBOT republican. Give us the HATE brother, Give us the ANGER brother. LET IT ALL OUT!!!!!!!!!
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
8:39 am
willieb just made liberals all across the land pooh pooh in their pants with his talk about his loaded thingie. please don’t flail your loaded thingie in public, willieb. you might put some 3 foot tall kid’s eye out.
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
8:40 am
You do not believe there is a 2nd amd. do you?
I’ve commented on that amendment countless times, in here, so obviously I believe it exists.
Williebkind
January 22nd, 2013
8:40 am
“They did it specifically to piss people like you off. And you played right into their hands…. The devil is in anger and hate, Mr. Willie”
They did not “piss” me off but I do know when a whacko liberal makes a stupid remark or report a conservative must challenge their incantatory immediately or the democratic plantation believes it is fact.
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
8:41 am
My little bit of civil disobedience. If I get busted, maybe the ACLU will take my case.
heh — I remember you mentioning that. You really switched the D & the G?
Dog bless you.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
8:41 am
“I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word in reality. This is why right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil triumphant” – Martin Luther King, Jr.
Williebkind
January 22nd, 2013
8:41 am
“You do not believe there is a 2nd amd. do you?
I’ve commented on that amendment countless times, in here, so obviously I believe it exists.”
Then you have a reading comprehension disability.
Granny Godzilla
January 22nd, 2013
8:42 am
Williebkind
January 22nd, 2013
8:36 am
“be a skeered, willieb. be vewwwwy a skeered. there’s dangerous liberals all around you. watching waiting.”
That is funny! These liberals watching me are crybabies and all I have to do is mention I have an assault rifle, a 22 magnum semi-auto rifle, and they crap all over themselves.
.
.
.
ah, nope
a little bit of urine might be released because of the huge belly laugh at the idea of you being a
big tough guy…
you powder puff….
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
8:43 am
stands: Dog bless you.
stands for decibels
January 22nd, 2013
8:43 am
The second coming! Now if that is not offensive
Well, it’s nice if you can manage it, sure.
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
8:43 am
And remember willieb, your AR-15 magazine is easily converted to a 100-round design by simply loading it with your .22 magnum rounds. They’re interchangeable because a .22 is the same caliber as a .223 dontcha know.
Williebkind
January 22nd, 2013
8:44 am
As for Obama it is the begining of the end today. Everyday that passes means less time the Amercian people will have to endure socialist programming. It is a good day, we can see the light and it is getting closer.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
8:45 am
Williebkind: As for Obama it is the begining of the end today. Everyday that passes means less time the Amercian people will have to endure socialist programming.
Says the guy who has been programmed by the devil for hate and anger toward the man.
godless heathen
January 22nd, 2013
8:45 am
You really switched the D & the G?
Yup but I’m afraid TaxPayer is going to turn me in to the authorities.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 22nd, 2013
8:46 am
What happens if they send the guy his gay plate, does that settle the suit or are we going to get stuck with a big price tag on this lawyers money grab?
Fred, now why would it be a “lawyer’s money grab”? The State surely knows there are 1st Amendment issues. Protecting those rights is certainly worthwhile. But really overall it depends on the plaintiff what they settle for. The state should have its act together on something like this. I am sure other states have addressed it. It’s not rocket science. “gay” should not be offensive.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
8:46 am
Conservatives seem to believe moderates and liberals are not entitled to the pursuit of happiness by enjoying yesterday’s inauguration.
Adam
January 22nd, 2013
8:47 am
“gay” should not be offensive.
Neither, IMO, should “F*ck” and “Sh*t”
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
8:49 am
Williebkind
January 22nd, 2013
8:44 am
As for Obama it is the begining of the end today. Everyday that passes means less time the Amercian people will have to endure socialist programming. It is a good day, we can see the light and it is getting closer.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Preach it Brother Willie, Preach your HATE vent your ANGER give us your FOXBOT LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s been like 5 minutes since the last hate filled angry little FOXBOT loser was on here spewing FOXBOT lies, hate, anger, and fear. He even used the samer hateful angry little FOXBOT words.
PREACH THE HATE WILLIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Escaped from Email Purgatory
January 22nd, 2013
8:49 am
I’m a relative newcomer to Bookman’s Bandits – we band of brothers and sisters who post random comments to his thoughtful blogs.
At the risk of sounding presumptuous, seems we’re kinda like a big, old dysfunctional family. And every day is Thanksgiving.
Granny Godzilla? Was that you who just cut the cheese? Fred, did you forget to let the toilet seat down again? Did TaxPayer bring that gawd-awful sardine cassarole again? Nobody eats it. I thought you were gonna talk to him about that.
alex
January 22nd, 2013
8:49 am
you guys are still just writing to each other and proves my point… echo chambers, no novel thoughts, the art of the reflex response, on and on and on….lots of anger out there, would have been REAL ugly if romney had been elected, time to move on , work to do reduce medicare /SS and the like, increase the inhertance tax, th ecapital gains tax, flat tax , anyone?….The pres needs to meet with the new Chinese premier..WHAT ABOUT THE NEW TREASURY GUY, DOES HE HAVE THE RIGHT STUFF, WHAT ARE HIS IDEAS ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE…??
Granny Godzilla
January 22nd, 2013
8:51 am
If ones AR-15 does not match their shoes and purse it’s a fashion fail.
Oh and no white assault weapons after Labor day.
That’s it for todays powder puff fashion update.
GT
January 22nd, 2013
8:51 am
When I hear McCain tell Obama he needs to come to the Republicans reach out to them, I think why?
What vision do the Republicans have for the future? If we mainlined their policies into the America they want, what picture do they see that a fuller population of Americans would be better off? I really can’t put the picture together, because I am seeing death on every page. Bodies in front of hospitals where they were not admitted, bodies on battle fields with oil rigs of foreign lands as part of the landscape, bodies in school yards waiting for gun control. Wall Street becomes a real Wall Street with a wall around it and the rest of America, outside the wall.
I wish Obama would have invited McCain up to the podium to expand on his vision of the right for America. They say their problem is the getting the message out here’s a microphone have at it, what I have to say can wait because what I have to say the American public already has in its heart. But you Republicans who think you just lost the election because the country misunderstood you. Tell us what you got in mind the floor is open and we are all ears.
St Simons - aboriginal Bootakook 2014
January 22nd, 2013
8:51 am
What will the next 4 years hold?
Change, baby. Change.
barking frog
January 22nd, 2013
8:52 am
Escaped from Email Purgatory -are you now in heaven?
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
8:52 am
You really switched the D & the G?
Yup but I’m afraid TaxPayer is going to turn me in to the authorities.
I don’t know what the penalty is but I can guarantee you that the “Christian” community of which folks like scout belong to would surely shun you. Maybe even perform some sort of excommunication by charging your neighbor for the use of his or her once-free cell phone or something like that.
Granny Godzilla
January 22nd, 2013
8:53 am
Escaped
I shred cheese, and eat bullies for breakfast, with spam and eggs.
Yum.
indigo
January 22nd, 2013
8:53 am
Williebkind
Before accusing Obama of being Socialist, you ought to at least know that the word means.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/socialism
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
8:54 am
WHAT ABOUT THE NEW TREASURY GUY, DOES HE HAVE THE RIGHT STUFF, WHAT ARE HIS IDEAS ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE…??
Is that the new line Herman is preaching right now? Come on alex, preach the hate, spew the anger, tell the lies……..
TaxPayer
January 22nd, 2013
8:56 am
no novel thoughts
We’re not allowed to post anything longer than a short story, alex.
Fred ™
January 22nd, 2013
8:58 am
isn’t it quaint how the foxbots post about “novel thoughts?”
kayaker 71
January 22nd, 2013
9:00 am
The next four years?….. more of the same. More lies, a staggering debt, more people on food stamps, runaway govt spending that remains unchecked, more Bookman rants that only tell half of the story and more murders in Chicago, Macon and Atlanta. What else?
barking frog
January 22nd, 2013
9:02 am
Four more years of hope and change forward.
St Simons - aboriginal Bootakook 2014
January 22nd, 2013
9:05 am
Bike week & sunshine is a month away.
That makes me have a navel thought.
oh, now I have a novel thought.
if demographics overtake them by 2015, don’t negotiate.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
January 22nd, 2013
9:05 am
“What will the next 4 years hold?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqwIifgs7KU
Skip
January 22nd, 2013
9:07 am
Fred, tagged a new car last week, unless you ask the county name is on the plate. Surprised no one is talking about the new cat tax structure.
Skip
January 22nd, 2013
9:08 am
Cat, car whatever.
St Simons - aboriginal Bootakook 2014
January 22nd, 2013
9:11 am
T-i-i-i-ime is on our side, libs it is….
we sing dat on de island, mon
kayaker 71
January 22nd, 2013
9:12 am
The great flight from California has been enhanced by Phil Mikleson stating that he would move from CA because of taxes heaped on him by the CA state govt. He presently pays close to 63% of his income to taxes including over 13% in state taxes. Gotta have some way to pay for those illegals. And Governor Moonbeam wanders around in some liberal nirvana haze pretending it ain’t so. The next four years? More of the same for CA.
GT
January 22nd, 2013
9:28 am
There is the story of two men who run into a huge angry bear on a hitch in the forest. One man starts rubbing his hands and fretting the other calmly sits down and changes from his hitching shoes to his running shoes. Seeing this the first man says, “What in hell are you doing? You don’t think you are going to outrun that bear do you?” The man changing his shoes calmly replies, “I haven’t got to outrun the bear, I only have to outrun you.”
Obama doesn’t have to be perfect.
Gale
January 22nd, 2013
9:32 am
“hitch” someone’s spell checker let him down.
Williebkind
January 22nd, 2013
9:39 am
“They’re interchangeable because a .22 is the same caliber as a .223 dontcha know.”
No they are not but I understand your ignorance about “arms”.
Williebkind
January 22nd, 2013
9:46 am
What will the next four years bring? More executive orders to circumvent that pesky constitution.
GT
January 22nd, 2013
9:47 am
thanks Gale, hike, like I said perfection is not the goal here, but still grateful for the help.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 22nd, 2013
9:51 am
Kayaker
Please take care of your wife as she is way much more important than what we discuss here.
I HOLD YOUR FAMILY IN MY PRAYERS
Williebkind
January 22nd, 2013
9:54 am
You liberals should start campaigning real soon and find someone who smiles, lies, states the constitution is a living document, and promotes the warfare against women and minorities. You have been inundated the Obama halo that the “second coming” means there is an end. There will be wailing and knashing of teeth.
dbm
January 22nd, 2013
11:50 am
Sometimes government interferes or regulates in a way that opens the door to people doing bad things. In such a case, we must distinguish between the issue of who did the bad things and how to avoid such bad things in the future. To avoid future bad things, we need to close the door that was opened and be more careful what doors we open in the future. Piling on additional regulations and/or regulators is irrelevant and destructive if the problem was caused by a misguided regulation or interference.
Class of ‘98 was trying to make this point, but it tended to get lost because he was also admitting to being one of the people who did bad things.
Jay had a thread on a similar situation a while back, in which a system was designed in a way that allowed it to be gamed. As I recall, he didn’t make clear to what extent government was involved, perhaps because he thought it was unimportant.
dbm
January 22nd, 2013
12:05 pm
Perhaps an analogy will make my last post clearer. If this analogy confuses you, please ignore it.
If we wander around in a blizzard dressed as though we were vacationing in a tropical paradise, and we catch a bad cold as a result, the direct cause of the cold is the germs and their actions. But our best strategy for avoiding a recurrence is to be more sensible about how we dress, taking into account current conditions.
We could say “Fight the germs! Don’t let those [expletive deleted] get away with it!” and take antibiotics for the rest of our lives in hopes of preventing infections that actually are more likely to be viral, but that is not a good strategy.
philosopher
January 23rd, 2013
7:48 am
Jay-it is so nice of you to provide Jm a wailing wall.
philosopher
January 23rd, 2013
7:50 am
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