Guns, hot sauce and testosterone a spicy mix
In 2006, researchers at Knox College in Illinois performed a study on college men ages 18 to 22. Here’s how the study abstract reads:
“We tested whether interacting with a gun increased testosterone levels and later aggressive behavior. Thirty male college students provided a saliva sample (for testosterone assay), interacted with either a gun or a children’s toy for 15 min, and then provided another saliva sample. Next, subjects added as much hot sauce as they wanted to a cup of water they believed another subject would have to drink. Males who interacted with the gun showed significantly greater increases in testosterone and added more hot sauce to the water than did those who interacted with the children’s toy.”
The men were told that they were being studied to determine whether paying close attention to a task altered their later sensitivity to taste. They were tested for initial testosterone levels, and half were then asked to dismantle and reassemble the old “Mousetrap” game, writing a set of instructions on how to do so.
Desert Eagle handgun
The other half were asked to do the same with a pellet pistol, an exact replica in size and weight of a Desert Eagle handgun. Finally, after being tested again for testosterone, they were given a glass of water and bottle of hot sauce and asked to prepare a “sample” for the next study subject.
According to a description of the study at WebMD:
This hot-sauce trick has been used before. The more aggressive a man is feeling, the more hot sauce he tends to put in the next guy’s drink.
Sure enough, testosterone went up about 100 times more in the men who handled the gun than in the men who handled the children’s toy. And the gun handlers put three times more hot sauce in the water — on average, about a half ounce — than the toy handlers.
The more a man’s testosterone went up after gun handling, the more hot sauce he put in the water.
And since a story like this just wouldn’t be the same without a chart:
Make of it what you will. I report; you decide. But as we’ve seen, the good people at Bushmaster have already made their decision:
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Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 17th, 2013
4:58 pm
Is that hot sauce from NYC?
indigo
January 17th, 2013
4:59 pm
And yes, when I attempt to link guns and manhood(or lack of it) here, the gun nuts squeal like stuck pigs.
Gun nuts, don’t bother trying to deny that guns make you feel more like a man.
We know better.
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
4:59 pm
The gun strokers are getting a thrill.
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:01 pm
Hooah !
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:04 pm
Why carry a gun?
Because a whole cop would be too heavy.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 17th, 2013
5:07 pm
Gun nuts, don’t bother trying to deny that guns make you feel more like a man.
We know better.
I think they use them to compensate for something as well.
Family Guy did a great take off on that
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:08 pm
Spock to Kirk – Logic dictates captain that if Pro-Gunners were as violent as Anti-Gunners say they are, there wouldn’t be any anti-gunners remaining!
Granny Godzilla
January 17th, 2013
5:09 pm
Boys will be Boys.
But they can be fixed…..
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
5:13 pm
The moral of the story is don’t let a guy with a gun put hot sauce
on your food unless you like it hot, but how do you say no when
he has a gun.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 17th, 2013
5:15 pm
Hmmm….. I suspect our chest thumpers would remove all water and only have hot sauce but then they are a brave brave bunch.
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:16 pm
Gun Control?
Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 17th, 2013
5:17 pm
Well, I don’t see the point here but I’m home now and ready to stroke my guns. After awhile I get a vision of some crook laying in his own blood and guts. I don’t know what I’d do without my guns. I’m sure those babies miss me when I’m at work. Anyhow I don’t like hot sauce so there’ll be none of that stuff. That’s for preverts.
Have a good night everybody.
saywhat?
January 17th, 2013
5:17 pm
Interesting information, Jay. It certainly could explain the almost primal reaction some folks have to the thought of fewer guns to fondle. I wonder if the testosterone levels would have been even higher had the subjects been asked to suck on the guns instead of just handle them. Things that make you go hmmmmm.
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:19 pm
One More -
Lord, make me fast and accurate.
Let my aim be true and hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me.
Grant me victory over my foes and those that wish to do harm to me and mine.
Let not my last thought be – if I only had my gun.
And Lord, if today is truly the day that you call me home,
Let me die in pile of empty brass.
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
5:20 pm
Dear Abby died. How sad. Her daughter has been doing her column for years, but it still sucks. In tribute (and just for you Brocephus, I think the singer/songwriter is a hick fine feller from Alabama like you I play this song. I think it accurately sums up her advice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2ccC4aULow
Doggone/GA
January 17th, 2013
5:20 pm
I’d like to know if they tried that test with women
Mr. Snarky
January 17th, 2013
5:22 pm
My theory isn’t that gun lovers want to kill people or it makes them feel more manly…just that knowing that you have the power to kill someone with the pull of a trigger makes people feel powerful…even if its the only power they have. That’s why some are so passionate about them. Someone may be completely emasculated by society but if they have a gun, they have power.
josef
January 17th, 2013
5:22 pm
They’ll get my Tabasco when they pry it from my cold, dead, hands!
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
5:23 pm
Wow. A thread on guns? How unusual…….. I wonder if anything new will be said……….
That poor dead horse. He been beat so damn much that there ain’t even a blood spot on the ground let to swing at……………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjoMQJf5vKI
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:23 pm
Good Fight – unlike some here who apparently have nothing to do all day every day but blog, I work. I work for myself, you know, self employed. I blog only as long as my conscious allows. Besides, there is no winning a debate with you Moonbats. Instead, I just try to blow off steam and have fun pushing buttons.
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
5:23 pm
They tamed the west with a US Marshal and the smell of ………………..gunsmoke.
josef
January 17th, 2013
5:24 pm
BIG DADDY
Good column…’bout time you lightened up a bit…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 17th, 2013
5:25 pm
Hot sauce?
Real men eat the Trinidad Moruga Scorpion pepper.
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:25 pm
It is true, obviously, that Moonbats have no sense of humor. At least most here.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
5:25 pm
More NRA-TV
Oh boy
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
5:26 pm
With two guns can Viagra be avoided?
Jay
January 17th, 2013
5:27 pm
Let’s abstain from belittling personal attacks, please.
saywhat?
January 17th, 2013
5:27 pm
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:19 pm
One More -
Lord, make me fast and accurate.
Let my aim be true and hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me.
Grant me victory over my foes and those that wish to do harm to me and mine.
Let not my last thought be – if I only had my gun.
And Lord, if today is truly the day that you call me home,
Let me die in pile of empty brass.
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I wonder if those were the last thoughts to run through Lanza’s mind.
Doggone/GA
January 17th, 2013
5:27 pm
“It is true, obviously, that Moonbats have no sense of humor. At least most here”
Alternative theory: you aren’t as funn as your mirror says you are
resno2
January 17th, 2013
5:28 pm
Does owning a gun automatically make you a gun nut?
What about woman gun owners? Do they need to be fixed too?
Can a gal with a gun serve you hot sauce? What if she doesn’t feel more like a man when she’s handling her gun?
Jay
January 17th, 2013
5:28 pm
Kam, a friend just got back from Trinidad and brought me several different bottles of hot sauce. It’s great, but there’s this one bottle … yowsa!
Jm
January 17th, 2013
5:28 pm
I hate habanero
Jay
January 17th, 2013
5:29 pm
I promise to vary the menu tomorrow. :>)
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:29 pm
Know why you should always eat ice cream after having a lot of hot sauce?
So at the next pit stop you can groan – come on ice cream!
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
January 17th, 2013
5:30 pm
Ain’t humans wonderful. Petty, malicious, spiteful, and proud of it usually too, and that’s jsut the Baptists!
Orange13
January 17th, 2013
5:30 pm
Unrelated, but a pretty good read.
http://news.msn.com/science-technology/man-outsources-his-own-job-to-china-watches-cat-videos
josef
January 17th, 2013
5:31 pm
FRED
Sois sage, Mec…we don’t need you put on probation…the Hubbard Daily News wouldn’t be the same…
Soothsayer
January 17th, 2013
5:31 pm
This warm weather we’ve been having just ain’t natural — not in January! Thank goodness for some more cold! Ol’ Sooth’s got the woodstove fired and it looks to be a cozy night.
You can all stroke your guns if it gets you through the night. Me, I like to think about Law-ruh smoking a cigarette to get my testosterone up! Whoo-e-e-e-e-e! It get’s me hot just thinking about it!
I never knew what she saw in that dumbass to begin with.
I hope the nutjobs discover this new thread. I need the entertainment. I’ll check back later. That is if the country don’t get overthrowed before then.
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
5:32 pm
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:16 pm
Gun Control?
Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself.
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Do you REALLY think that if I’m holding a gun on you that you will “beat me to the draw?”
As I said earlier in one of the other 50 threads on this this week…….. if you have a gun on you and it’s not in your hand pointed at the person when confronted you will either be dead or have a stolen gun.
I know that talk sounds all tough Johnny Reb, but have you actually ever been shot at or had a gun pulled on you?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 17th, 2013
5:32 pm
It’s great, but there’s this one bottle … yowsa!
Heh, heh, heh.
The Scotch Bonnet is as hot as I’ll go, and I only use it for my jerk marinade.
josef
January 17th, 2013
5:33 pm
SOGGONE
“you aren’t as funn as your mirror says you are”
I’m sooooo stealing that one!
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 17th, 2013
5:34 pm
JR
I blog only as long as my conscious allows
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LOL, the irony
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 17th, 2013
5:34 pm
Know why you should always eat ice cream after having a lot of hot sauce?
Any dairy product will do.
Doggone/GA
January 17th, 2013
5:35 pm
“SOGGONE”
“funn”
Looks like we’re both having the same problem!
Jay
January 17th, 2013
5:35 pm
When I was a kid I was walking through the kitchen and I saw my mother with a strange looking bottle.
“What’s that?” I asked.
“That’s horseradish.”
“What’s horseradish?”
“You want to taste it?”
“Sure!”
And she pulled out a spoonful, and I took it all, and went howling out of there, with my mom laughing hilariously.
Pretty funny, mom. Really. I’ll forgive you … someday.
:>)
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:36 pm
No Fred, if you are holding a gun on me, even if I was armed, I would be too distracted with the involuntary expulsion of bodily fluids to try the dumb stunt of shooting you. There might even be some begging.
As I stated a few posts back, you guys have no sense of humor.
Bob Loblaw
January 17th, 2013
5:37 pm
Alcohol is marketed to men the same way. Be the most interesting man in the world! Crack this brand of beer. Same with guns. Get the customer pumped up about buying the product ’cause they’re gonna feel like a man! Nothing new, here. Maybe we should put a sign on the gun package that says if you shoot someone you might hurt or kill them. Problem solved!
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
5:38 pm
josef: It’s all good. i’m being nice……. I think……
Oh, BTW the Tabasco comment was great lol. It reminded me of one of my favorite scenes from Red Dawn, where the Russian soldier leans down and takes a .45 from the cold dead hands of a guy laying next to a bumper sticker that says that.
Peace
January 17th, 2013
5:38 pm
Jay, when you do a blog on “a woman’s right to choose” you should post an illustration or photo of an aborted fetus. Just for the imagery impact.
josef
January 17th, 2013
5:39 pm
DOGGONE
IMAM
Nothing like the right horseradish for clearing up the sinuses…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 17th, 2013
5:39 pm
As I stated a few posts back, you guys have no sense of humor.
Of course we do.
We’re not laughing with you, we’re laughing at you.
Doggone/GA
January 17th, 2013
5:40 pm
“Jay, when you do a blog on “a woman’s right to choose”
blogspot is ready when you are
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:40 pm
JHC, Peace. Here I am telling these guys to get a sense of humor and you throw a terd in the punch bowl.
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
5:43 pm
Wasabi is good horseradish sauce.
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:43 pm
Kamie – laughing at me is not a sense of humor. You sarcastic nail driver.
pogo
January 17th, 2013
5:43 pm
So what Jay seems to be implying is that the black on black shootings (which constitute the majority of gun related violence in this country) is because the black males stroke their guns. Sorry to tell you this Jay but there is something way more fundamental at work here than that. “Stroking” a gun doesn’t make a killer. And Obama basically stated that watching Django or any other of the violent films that we are bombarded with doesn’t contribute either. At least that is what he pretty much said in his speech yesterday since he only mentioned Hollywood’s influence as something to be “studied” by the CDC, of all agencies. Yea, that is going to help. Like the CDC is going to make a big contribution to this argument with everything else they have on their plate.
And Indigo, when the term “gun nuts” comes to your liberal mind you think of nothing but a bunch of white males wearing NRA baseball caps who are chewing tobacco, don’t you? I hate to tell you, the real “gun nuts” who are doing the the real killing are not these stereotypical people you libs like to think about. Oh no. They are the inter-city minorities that are doing the real damage and most of the time the violence is inflicted upon people of their own race. And, they use mostly illegal firearms that were never purchased in compliance with our already strict gun laws. Liberal policies have contributed greatly to the violent culture we now find ourselves in. The judicial system is a joke. Rehabilitation is laughed at by career felons but they are more than willing to use it to get the freedom to reek more havoc. The prison system is overloaded and law enforcement itself is falling apart because why arrest people when they will be back on the streets in a short amount of time?
TM
January 17th, 2013
5:43 pm
Has anyone tested Dianne Feinstein’s levels when she is packing her concealed hot sauce??
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
5:45 pm
I only use it for my jerk marinade.
There are SO many ways I could go with this one……… I think it best I just leave it alone……..
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:46 pm
I’m off to do the dishes before the boss gets home. Gun cleaning will have to wait another day.
Jay
January 17th, 2013
5:46 pm
No, Pogo.
Any thought, mention, suggestion or notion of race is entirely yours. Do not attempt to attribute your fixation or obsession to me.
Peace
January 17th, 2013
5:46 pm
JohnnyR
That Bushmaster illustration and the handgun just lend a lot of visual impact to Jay’s opinions. Just thought he could use the same approach with other controversial subjects.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 17th, 2013
5:47 pm
You sarcastic nail driver.
I have driven common, bright, ring shanked, galvanized, cut nails, masonry nails and just about any other variety of nail, but I have never driven a sarcastic nail.
josef
January 17th, 2013
5:47 pm
FROG
Unmentionable made a Reuben the other night slathered with wasabi (we were out of horseradish) and it wasn’t half bad…
Jm
January 17th, 2013
5:48 pm
I hate horseradish
Jalapeño – yum
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 17th, 2013
5:48 pm
Fred
At least he didn’t say his chicken jerk marinade
josef
January 17th, 2013
5:49 pm
PEACE
Well, it did get a rise out of you….
Doggone/GA
January 17th, 2013
5:50 pm
“Just thought he could use the same approach with other controversial subjects”
Or, in other words, you’re not brave enough to do what you think Jay should do.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 17th, 2013
5:50 pm
At least he didn’t say his chicken jerk marinade
Speaking of nail drivers…..
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think
January 17th, 2013
5:51 pm
I still shudder when I hear “gun”. My instructor’s always made us repeat this when we said gun for our piece (rifle). “This is my rifle,(pointing to the piece), this is my gun ( pointing to crotch), this is for killing (again, the rifle), this is for fun (again, the crotch)…so
When I see “gun strokers” here, I clean off my monitor…
getalife
January 17th, 2013
5:51 pm
They are not coming for your guns but our society has turned into a cheating society.
We look like crazy gun nuts that think they are above the rules and laws.
Cheaters and welchers.
We need to change that perception of America.
fedup
January 17th, 2013
5:53 pm
“I’d like to know if they tried that test with women”. The women in the gun range behave more like men.
josef
January 17th, 2013
5:55 pm
CORBIN
They’ll take your gun when they pry it from your cold, dead, hands?
Joel
January 17th, 2013
5:55 pm
AHA! Guns are my treatment for low testosterone, you can’t take them away! I have a medical reason!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 17th, 2013
5:55 pm
. . .the National Enquirer is reporting that Tiger Woods wants to remarry his ex-wife, Elin, and that he is offering a huge financial sum to get her back. They say Tiger even proposed to her over Christmas.
Elin is said to be considering the proposal from Tiger, but she reportedly wants a $350 million anti-cheating clause added to the contract. The proposed deal reportedly is worth over half of Tiger’s estimated $600 million fortune.
Y’know, if we all chipped in a few bucks we could hire a stripper to dance buck-nekkid in front of Tiger and watch him sweat.
Doggone/GA
January 17th, 2013
5:55 pm
“The women in the gun range behave more like men.”
Got proof?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
5:56 pm
Jay:
You should be ashamed since you come from a military family.
Why the heck do you think young men (Marines, soldiers in particular) between 18 and 22 are the ones called on to protect you by standing on that wall ?? You’re not going to do it !
But ………….. on the other hand as long as Jay is writing about guns he’s not writing about Georgia transportation !
Peadawg
January 17th, 2013
5:56 pm
What’s the point of this article? Or did I miss the joke or something…
mae brown
January 17th, 2013
5:57 pm
really thorny problem….I’ve thought and thought and I realize the only two solutions are 1.eliminate guns ,or,
2.eliminate men……
Granny Godzilla
January 17th, 2013
5:57 pm
JohnnyReb
Gun Control?
Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself.
.
.
.
Yea, like nobody else in the last 2013 years ever gave up their life for others.
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
5:59 pm
Peadawg
the point is that playing with your gun will raise your testosterone level…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 17th, 2013
5:59 pm
Y’know, if we all chipped in a few bucks we could hire a stripper to dance buck-nekkid in front of Tiger and watch him sweat.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I wonder if we could come up with enough $ to hire Elin’s twin sister Josefin.
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
5:59 pm
JohnnyReb
January 17th, 2013
5:36 pm
No Fred, if you are holding a gun on me, even if I was armed, I would be too distracted with the involuntary expulsion of bodily fluids to try the dumb stunt of shooting you. There might even be some begging.
As I stated a few posts back, you guys have no sense of humor.
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Unfortunately JR, some of the “real” stuff you post is more far out than your *joke.*
At times you seem real and lucid, and at others total looney bin. It’s hard to get a handle on it. I mean that seriously, not in a snarky way.
josef
January 17th, 2013
6:00 pm
PEADAWG
You missed a joke…
Soothsayer
January 17th, 2013
6:00 pm
Don’t do it, Tiger! Don’t do it! She ain’t worth it!
Peadawg
January 17th, 2013
6:02 pm
“the point is that playing with your gun will raise your testosterone level…”
And………….?
Soothsayer
January 17th, 2013
6:03 pm
Do you really think THIS is worth $350 million?
Wait, let me see that again!
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
6:03 pm
josef
January 17th, 2013
5:47 pm
FROG
Unmentionable made a Reuben the other night slathered with wasabi (we were out of horseradish) and it wasn’t half bad…
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Don’t tell anyone, but “wasabi” is just horseradish with green food coloring. There is so little REAL wasabi that very little of it makes it’s way out of Japan, the rest is just fake, horseradish.
(from wiki): Wasabi is difficult to cultivate (see below), and that makes it quite expensive. Due to its high cost, a common substitute is a mixture of horseradish, mustard, starch and green food coloring. Outside of Japan, it is rare to find real wasabi plants. Often packages are labeled as wasabi, but the ingredients do not actually include wasabi plant. Although the taste is similar between wasabi and horseradish, they are easily distinguished. In Japan, horseradish is referred to as seiyō wasabi (西洋わさび?, “western wasabi”).[7] In the United States, true wasabi is generally found only at specialty grocers and high-end restaurants.
godless heathen
January 17th, 2013
6:03 pm
Good column…’bout time you lightened up a bit…
Jay’s on a quest. Maybe throwing fresh meat to the gun grabbers raises his testosterone level.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 17th, 2013
6:03 pm
Corbin
As long as your wife has a gun fetish it’s all good
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 17th, 2013
6:05 pm
Hey Sooth
Got any snow yet?
godless heathen
January 17th, 2013
6:05 pm
Gun joke (sortta):
I’ve never masturbated but one time I was cleaning it and it went off.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
6:07 pm
I get a rush after unloading a clip.
Just Saying..
January 17th, 2013
6:07 pm
“But they can be fixed…..”
Soothsayer
January 17th, 2013
6:07 pm
Kam: haven’t checked lately. Let me look. Nope, still raining.
Granny Godzilla
January 17th, 2013
6:09 pm
You guys are all something else.
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
6:09 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
5:56 pm
Jay:
You should be ashamed since you come from a military family.
Why the heck do you think young men (Marines, soldiers in particular) between 18 and 22 are the ones called on to protect you by standing on that wall ??
++++++++++++++++++++
Because they like hot sauce?
josef
January 17th, 2013
6:09 pm
FRED
Yep. This was given me as a Christmas present at work by one of our Japanese parents…and you CAN tell the difference…
HEATHEN
Well, if you put it that way,,,
fedup
January 17th, 2013
6:10 pm
No I don’t. You have to be at the range I go to.
josef
January 17th, 2013
6:11 pm
getalife
@ 6:07
Good one!
godless heathen
January 17th, 2013
6:13 pm
Soothsayer
January 17th, 2013
6:03 pm
Do you really think THIS is worth $350 million?
No, but for $350 mil I’ll marry him and he can cheat all he wants.
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
6:15 pm
Fred, josef
I don’t know what they use but the wasabi off the shelf in the
grocery store tastes like the wasabi I had in japan but it
wasn’t in a high end restaurant.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 17th, 2013
6:16 pm
Corbin
here ya go just for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz9AEJYCKrg
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
6:16 pm
Soothsayer
January 17th, 2013
6:03 pm
Do you really think THIS is worth $350 million?
Wait, let me see that again!
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You might but he didn’t. Familiarity breeds contempt. Mutt Lange got tired of Shania Twain……..
http://www.watt-up.com/j_gallery/Shania_Twain_3/slides/shania_twain%20%28211%29.html
Soothsayer
January 17th, 2013
6:16 pm
Now what would a hot babe like this see in a nebbish like Tiger Woods?
LoganvilleGuy
January 17th, 2013
6:17 pm
The study can be directly read here:
http://faculty.knox.edu/fmcandre/guns-testo-aggress.pdf
Who participated? 18-22 year old college age kids.
The sample size? 30 people.
This is not something that I would quote as definitive for many reasons including the age of participants and the amount of people involved.
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
6:20 pm
Soothsayer
If Tiger can keep it zipped he gets all his stuff back including
his kids….
Doggone/GA
January 17th, 2013
6:20 pm
“This is not something that I would quote as definitive”
It isn’t meant to be definiitive. But it is indicative.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think
January 17th, 2013
6:20 pm
josef
January 17th, 2013
5:55 pm
My gun is an antique…if I used it in a crime, I could only be charged with assault with a dead weapon…
josef
January 17th, 2013
6:21 pm
GRANNY G
Just got some pix of the snow in Jackson…made me homesick…nothing quite like it when it snows there…
Soothsayer
January 17th, 2013
6:21 pm
frog: obviously, he’s willing to put his money where his pecker is.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think
January 17th, 2013
6:22 pm
Common Sense isn’t very Common
January 17th, 2013
6:16 pm
FarTrain
January 17th, 2013
6:23 pm
You have just given Miranda Lambert (of Gunpowder and Lead fame) the title to her next new country song. Bet she’s busy writing it right now. “GUNS, HOT SAUCE, AND TESTOSTERONE”. Blake Shelton is a lucky man!
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
6:25 pm
soothsayer
yep. heavy bettor..
DownInAlbany
January 17th, 2013
6:25 pm
Dang, Jay must get paid by the comment. If so, he’s hit the motherlode with the gun debate. Over 5,000 comments on 5 blogs, not including this one!
josef
January 17th, 2013
6:27 pm
CORBIN
Thass funny!
FROG
It’s hard to describe what the difference is, the real wasabi has the same “bite,” but it’s more a more subtle flavor with more “layers…”
Doggone/GA
January 17th, 2013
6:28 pm
“Over 5,000 comments on 5 blogs, not including this one! ”
And I’m SURE he appreciates your contribution to the total
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
6:28 pm
DownInAlbany
January 17th, 2013
6:25 pm
Dang, Jay must get paid by the comment. If so, he’s hit the motherlode with the gun debate. Over 5,000 comments on 5 blogs, not including this one!
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Hell yeah, that’s more than the liar Kyle gets in 3 months……..
See? Telling the truth, not letting Jay rejects run your blog, and good writing pays off.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
6:28 pm
The twins are hotter than Tiger’s mistresses so I hope that 350 mil covers both of them.
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
6:30 pm
LoganvilleGuy
January 17th, 2013
6:17 pm
The study can be directly read here:
http://faculty.knox.edu/fmcandre/guns-testo-aggress.pdf
Who participated? 18-22 year old college age kids.
The sample size? 30 people.
This is not something that I would quote as definitive for many reasons including the age of participants and the amount of people involved.
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Really? Well you are one of about 3 who are taking this thread seriously so you drive on Airborne.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqd89_veabo
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
6:31 pm
josef
guess I’ve never had true wasabi….but I like the green stuff
they call wasabi….
Jack ®
January 17th, 2013
6:32 pm
I don’t really think there’s a reliable way to measure testosterone when a fella is 22. Maybe at 52 or 62, but not 22.
F. Sinkwich
January 17th, 2013
6:33 pm
Speaking of testosterone, anybody following this bizarre story about star Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te’o?
“According to media accounts that surrounded Te’o this season, his purported girlfriend, Lennay Kekua, died of leukemia in September. But on Wednesday, the website Deadspin.com posted a lengthy story saying there was no evidence that she ever existed.”
This guy was runner-up for the Heisman trophy, something I know a lot about. I’ve done some probing, and here’s the real story, according to a confidential source.
Te’o is a squish (not that there’s anything wrong with that). He grew weary of his teammates asking him why he didn’t ever avail himself of all the sorority sisters, cheerleaders, and campus hotties lined up at his door wanting to boink.
So he made up a story about a pretend female friend so he and Brucie could stay on the down-low.
Remember, you heard it here first.
DownInAlbany
January 17th, 2013
6:33 pm
I guess I need to hold my guns a little more often. In my middle age, I’ve had to resort to shots and gel to get my testosterone levels up. Might save me a chunk of change!
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
6:33 pm
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
6:20 pm
Soothsayer
If Tiger can keep it zipped he gets all his stuff back including
his kids….
+++++++++++++++++
If he could keep it zipped he wouldn’t have been in this mess in the first place. Either you have honor or you don’t. He doesn’t. She is smarter than he is, he’s about to lose what little he has left.
And I don’t feel a bit sorry for the cheating SOB.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
6:35 pm
“something I know a lot about.”
Do tell filky.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
6:36 pm
Sink
Actually sports radio was talking about that very thing this morning………….
So maybe you were the 1000th, but who is counting
Native Atlanta
January 17th, 2013
6:36 pm
So…I have a simple question….why does this “Georgia” person think everyone at the AJC is blogging on Jay’s blog?
josef
January 17th, 2013
6:37 pm
FROG
I like the green stuff, too…I have a Japanese niece who introduced me to the real stuff…like Fred says, hard to find and expensive as hell…
TBS
January 17th, 2013
6:38 pm
get
Is Sink talking about the Heisman or being on the “down low”?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
6:39 pm
Fred:
“Because they like hot sauce?”
Yep ………. it was the only way we could eat those C-rations for a year !!
josef
January 17th, 2013
6:40 pm
Sinkwitch
What’s a squish?
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
6:40 pm
F. Sinkwich
January 17th, 2013
6:33 pm
Speaking of testosterone, anybody following this bizarre story about star Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te’o?
“According to media accounts that surrounded Te’o this season, his purported girlfriend, Lennay Kekua, died of leukemia in September. But on Wednesday, the website Deadspin.com posted a lengthy story saying there was no evidence that she ever existed.”
This guy was runner-up for the Heisman trophy, something I know a lot about. I’ve done some probing, and here’s the real story, according to a confidential source.
Te’o is a squish (not that there’s anything wrong with that). He grew weary of his teammates asking him why he didn’t ever avail himself of all the sorority sisters, cheerleaders, and campus hotties lined up at his door wanting to boink.
So he made up a story about a pretend female friend so he and Brucie could stay on the down-low.
Remember, you heard it here first.
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Naw, once again you are late. I heard it yesterday.
It IS a weird story. Did you see where the dude from the Arizona Cardinals says he know the girl? It just keeps getting weirder and weirder………. Kind of like the Republican party………
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
6:40 pm
Fred ™
with high testosterone and little honor, I can empathize with
tiger’s inability to pass up the goodies gifted on the golf tours
and I don’t blame him for trying to recoup his losses…
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
6:41 pm
What is the point of this article?
I suppose the V8 Volvo should be banned as well.
josef
January 17th, 2013
6:42 pm
SCOUT
That c ration one…my brother’s care packages always included bottles of the hot stuff…
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
6:42 pm
I just got an email titled: WELCOME TO AIDS…………
LOL it threw me for a second then I remembered I signed up for this course:
https://www.coursera.org/course/aids
indigo
January 17th, 2013
6:42 pm
Peace
Women abort every day.
It’s called miscarriage.
Would one of those do for your photo?
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
6:45 pm
Who gives a spit about lance Armstrong ?
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
6:47 pm
moonbat betty
I suppose the V8 Volvo should be banned as well.
…………………………………………….
only if it is loaded.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
6:47 pm
Sink: I read that the poor guy was duped by some scammers.
indigo
January 17th, 2013
6:48 pm
pogo – 5:43
Thing is, when seeing long lines of people buying guns is recent days, they’re all white men.
Jay
January 17th, 2013
6:49 pm
I don’t know. I’m not aware of Volvo’s affecting testosterone output. Other Swedish exports, yes. Volvos not so much.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
6:50 pm
Thing is, when seeing long lines of people buying guns is recent days, they’re all white men.
Wrong color or wrong gender for you?
Jm
January 17th, 2013
6:51 pm
Speaking of racist epithets
Did you guys see the CEO of Chrysler said he doesn’t like American engines, and would only use “wop” engines in new cars, specifically the Aldo Romeo…
Kind of funny, even if wrong
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 17th, 2013
6:52 pm
If he could keep it zipped he wouldn’t have been in this mess in the first place. Either you have honor or you don’t. He doesn’t. She is smarter than he is, he’s about to lose what little he has left.
And I don’t feel a bit sorry for the cheating SOB.
WORD!
getalife
January 17th, 2013
6:53 pm
jm,
wop?
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
6:53 pm
indigo
January 17th, 2013
6:48 pm
pogo – 5:43
Thing is, when seeing long lines of people buying guns is recent days, they’re all white men.
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Well duh, the stores are in white neighborhoods……… besides, how many Republicans, talkradio listeners, do YOU know that aren’t white? I don’t know any……..
F. Sinkwich
January 17th, 2013
6:55 pm
“Naw, once again you are late. I heard it yesterday.”
But since I penned it, the story now has credibility.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
6:55 pm
Getalife
His words. Not mine
getalife
January 17th, 2013
6:56 pm
It was a publicity stunt for Notre Dame in a cheating and lying society.
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
6:57 pm
Jm
January 17th, 2013
6:51 pm
Speaking of racist epithets
Did you guys see the CEO of Chrysler said he doesn’t like American engines, and would only use “wop” engines in new cars, specifically the Aldo Romeo…
Kind of funny, even if wrong
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I’m surprised they don’t use the Italian tires. Dago through rain, Dago through snow, and when Dago flat Dago WOP WOP WOP……………
Just damn. I wonder if anyone now adays even knows that Dago and Wop are supposed to be pejoratives………. Is Polack still a bad word?
getalife
January 17th, 2013
6:58 pm
jm,
Why did you post that?
Do you hate Italians?
Peace
January 17th, 2013
6:58 pm
Indigo: No.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
6:58 pm
Well duh, the stores are in white neighborhoods……… besides, how many Republicans, talkradio listeners, do YOU know that aren’t white? I don’t know any……..
No, no, Fred. It’s either that the black guys just steal their guns or they don’t need to do any compensating, dontcha know? (Well as long as we are stereotyping.
)
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
6:59 pm
Why was there ever prejudice against Italian immigrants in the first place? Does anyone know? josef?
Keith
January 17th, 2013
6:59 pm
Guess the woman with her kids hiding in the closet that killed the intruder owned a gun to compensate for some shortcoming in her life. These anti-gun nuts are completely nuts.
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 17th, 2013
7:00 pm
At least the American gun-owning male can still rustle up a little testotorone.
.
Obama supporting progressive males have their testorterone hanging up on the kitchen wall……..and can’t even remember what it even felt like…(listening to obama and a potential tax increase is the only thing that comes close…..to these sad emasculated 21th century metro-boys).
.
lol
Keith
January 17th, 2013
7:00 pm
hey jay, gotten that gunfree zone sign in your yard yet?
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
7:01 pm
Keith
January 17th, 2013
6:59 pm
Guess the woman with her kids hiding in the closet that killed the intruder owned a gun to compensate for some shortcoming in her life. These anti-gun nuts are completely nuts.
+++++++++++++++++
Will you decide if you are going to be keith, Keith, or keithb please? I know it’s a hard choice what with all the voices in your head talking at once but……..
getalife
January 17th, 2013
7:02 pm
“Why was there ever prejudice against Italian immigrants in the first place?”
Because they knew we would take over their city.
josef
January 17th, 2013
7:03 pm
FRED
Depends on which language you’re speaking. Polack in Polish (polak) is the polish word for Polish…
Same thing with Yid…it’s the Yiddish word for Jew…
josef
January 17th, 2013
7:04 pm
FRED
The Yankees didn’t have many Black folks, so they had to use Italians…
The other half of your brain.
January 17th, 2013
7:05 pm
Doggone/GA
January 17th, 2013
6:28 pm
“Over 5,000 comments on 5 blogs, not including this one! ”
And I’m SURE he appreciates your contribution to the total
Lets see 5,000 divided by 30 =
josef
January 17th, 2013
7:07 pm
Interesting one of wop…it comes from guappo (handsome), and in slang can be loosely translated as “hot stuff…”
The other half of your brain.
January 17th, 2013
7:07 pm
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
6:59 pm
Why was there ever prejudice against Italian immigrants in the first place? Does anyone know? josef?
” Because we hate everybody. “
stands for decibels
January 17th, 2013
7:08 pm
“Yid” is yiddish for Jew? I guess I must’ve known that (else the word “Yiddish” / Jude Deusche wouldn’t make any sense) but… learn something new every day.
Hey josef, meant to ask–what was your New Year’s resolution? You mentioned one last night. mind sharing again?
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 17th, 2013
7:08 pm
If your testoterone doesn’t go up when handling a fantastic manufactored product that you chose to purchase then………………………………..you probably carry a man-purse.
.
just saying.
Nduka
January 17th, 2013
7:10 pm
The guys handling guns/testosterone/hot-sauce study is pretty interesting Jay.
I found myself wondering, what would the effect of the same stimulus on a female be? I know several who’d probably just skip the water altogether and go with 100% hot-sauce.
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 17th, 2013
7:10 pm
If your testoterone doesn’t go up when handling a fantastic manufactored product that you chose to purchase then………………….You shave more than just your face. You also probably exfoliate and moisturize.
.
sheesh
Matti
January 17th, 2013
7:10 pm
**sigh** Testosterone poisoning.
Testosterone is kind of like boobies. Enough is plenty. Ample endowments, when naturally occurring, can be lovely. But jacked to ridiculous levels, it’s just not that cute anymore.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
7:10 pm
We had to gain respect from the Yankees so we sold them alcohol and took over.
josef
January 17th, 2013
7:11 pm
SFD
To try to keep my personal opinions of folks to myself!
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 17th, 2013
7:12 pm
If your testoterone doesn’t go up when handling a fantastic manufactored product that you chose to purchase then………………………….You see a stylist instead of a barber, because barbers don’t do
highlights.
.
.
.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
7:12 pm
josef @ 6:42
Exactly ! Especially for the “Ham & Limas” !
Headline: “Police in New York in Violation of New Gun Law”
Well, there you go !
TBS
January 17th, 2013
7:13 pm
josef
I thought wop meant “Without Papers”
stands for decibels
January 17th, 2013
7:13 pm
josef, I thought New Year’s resolutions were supposed to be realistic.
indigo
January 17th, 2013
7:14 pm
Godless – 6:50
I was answering pogo’s post, which had nothing to do with color or gender.
Do you have some sort of agenda here, since that 6:50 had nothing to do with what I posted?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
7:15 pm
Jay:
That rifle you posted the photo of is a piece of crap.
It doesn’t even have a bayonet stud !
Geez !
Soothsayer
January 17th, 2013
7:15 pm
Heyward: you shouldn’t have cut those spelling classes.
stands for decibels
January 17th, 2013
7:15 pm
Anyone else read this story about the XC skiing couple who survived an avalanche?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/17/boyfriend-saves-girlfriend-life-after-is-buried-in-utah-avalanche/
I love to head way-the-hell-off the trails when given the opportunity, myself, but… well, let’s say I don’t carry a transponder, and most of the time I’m off solo, so I guess I’d be fcrewn.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
7:15 pm
josef
Not sure how true the info below is, but it wasn’t what I had previously heard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wop
Peace
January 17th, 2013
7:16 pm
Indigo: there are times that I believe you are somewhat intelligent, well-read, but other times I am concerned about your comprehension and understanding of matters that are not very complicated. Please review, if you choose to do so, the definitions of ‘abortion’ (a voluntary surgical procedure), and ‘miscarriage’, (a spontaneous abortion.) Quite a bit of difference.
indigo
January 17th, 2013
7:16 pm
Peace – 6:58 No
Why not?
Doesn’t your “God of love” know all and see all?
Doesn’t He see every miscarriage that every woman has?
And, since He does NOTHING to stop them, than must mean he has nothing against abortions.
So, why do you?
josef
January 17th, 2013
7:17 pm
getalife
Yep. Funny thing, growing up in Mississippi we had a fairly good sized Italian community going back to well before the Wah-uh. The old families were well established and socially prominent and well-respected. The immigrants during the late 1800s had a much easier go of it in assimilating and getting established. I never could quite get a handle on the prejudices against them from other areas.
josef
January 17th, 2013
7:19 pm
TBS
The “without papers” came as a take-off on the preexisting guappo one…that wiki article is fairly accurate…
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
January 17th, 2013
7:19 pm
No doubt funded by a government grant at the behest of Pelosi, Feinstein or other democrat luminary.
Those pesky young adult males, how will you social progressives ever feminize and control them if they have access to firearms? Y’all are probably alot more concerned about this than any havoc they may wreak with the firearms.
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 17th, 2013
7:19 pm
As per a Study by University of South Caroline, Salkahatchie Branch 2010 ………..Styling Hairdryers had the same effect on Progressive Metro-boys as guns did on American Libertarian men.
(I think that study used WHOLE MILK cream in Lattes instead of hot sauce).
.
just saying
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
7:20 pm
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 17th, 2013
7:08 pm
If your testoterone doesn’t go up when handling a fantastic manufactored product that you chose to purchase then………………………………..you probably carry a man-purse.
.
just saying.
++++++++++++++++++++
If you ever once did what I did for a living and a weapon was merely a tool, then your testosterone wouldn’t raise anymore than it wouldif you picked up a hammer. But for you chickenhawks on the other hand…… who knows.
Uh Huh....Guns, Hot Sauce and Testosterone..YUCK!
January 17th, 2013
7:22 pm
Testosterone is a great equalizer – it turns all men into MORONS.
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
7:23 pm
josef: Thanks. i knew where “mick” came from and why, but there was never really any prejudice against Germans or french that I know of and of course the English got a free pass………. but Italians? great food, beautiful women, a passion for life? What’s not to love?
Peace
January 17th, 2013
7:25 pm
Indigo @ 7:16.
I give up. You’ve convinced me that you are too simple and single-minded to discuss this matter with any degree of intelligence.
Yours in Christ,
God
Nduka
January 17th, 2013
7:27 pm
Testosterone also causes hair loss, which probably explains why I see so many bald guys @ the range.
josef
January 17th, 2013
7:28 pm
SFD
So far, so good!
FRED
As my Mama (a fan of all things Italian) used to say, what else can you say about a people for whom opera is folk music?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
7:29 pm
Fred:
“If you ever once did what I did for a living and a weapon was merely a tool, then your testosterone wouldn’t raise anymore than it wouldif you picked up a hammer. But for you chickenhawks on the other hand…… who knows.”
Well said! 99.9% of the people on here have no idea what it takes to drop the hammer on someone.
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
7:29 pm
Heyward
by any chance does the fantastic manufactured product of yours
require inflating ?
Uh Huh....Guns, Hot Sauce and Testosterone..YUCK!
January 17th, 2013
7:30 pm
Guns, hot sauce and testosterone is a RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
7:32 pm
Some people are sheep.
Some people are wolves.
Some people are sheepdogs (with testosterone) and the sheep are usually to timid to even realize they are being protected.
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 17th, 2013
7:33 pm
The Obama Regime might actually have the dreaded “Brown Note” machine ……..but all us real Americans have to do is fly a banner plane over the Brown shirt Federales with a huge picture of an AR-15.
.
same results.
.
lol
stands for decibels
January 17th, 2013
7:34 pm
Some people are sheep.
Some people are wolves.
…some people insist on stereotyping humans into two distinct groups that feed their fantastic notions of how society oughta be…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
7:35 pm
“Guns, hot sauce and testosterone is a RECIPE FOR DISASTER.”
Unless you want a police officer to protect you or a Marine to go to war for you.
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 17th, 2013
7:35 pm
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
7:20 pm
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 17th, 2013
7:08 pm
If your testoterone doesn’t go up when handling a fantastic manufactored product that you chose to purchase then………………………………..you probably carry a man-purse.
.
just saying.
++++++++++++++++++++
If you ever once did what I did for a living and a weapon was merely a tool, then your testosterone wouldn’t raise anymore than it wouldif you picked up a hammer. But for you chickenhawks on the other hand…… who knows.
————————————————————————————–
.
tool
mike
January 17th, 2013
7:35 pm
Pogo is right about one thing. Liberals get upset about fairly responsible middle class white guys having guns, but they aren’t the ones using their guns to kill and mame daily. I watch channel 2, 5, and 11 news almost everyday and when they show a gun crime and the suspect, it’s usually not middle class white guys from the burbs. Just being honest about what I see.
We have some very serious inner city crime problems we need to address, but it seems we are too scared to mention it, lest we be labeled racist. Come on folks, the real gun problem is in the black community. And we all know it.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
7:36 pm
tom,
Are you okay?
Ron Paul is gone so are you lost?
Do you know when they will “fix” your party?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
7:37 pm
decibles ………… but we know don’t we ……….
)
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
7:37 pm
LOL it’s been fun this evening. Ya’ll be chilly.
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
7:38 pm
Sheepdogs can live on sheep excrement.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
7:39 pm
If you ever once did what I did for a living and a weapon was merely a tool, then your testosterone wouldn’t raise anymore than it wouldif you picked up a hammer. But for you chickenhawks on the other hand…… who knows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKm5xQyD2vE
Granny Godzilla
January 17th, 2013
7:40 pm
Josef
I remember an ice storm.
Old wood burning fireplace roaring and quilts tacked over the archways for one toasty room in a big old house for a week.
The zillettes were little and the whole world was an adventure.
Can’t wait for the first snow with toddler g.
He brings the adventure back
getalife
January 17th, 2013
7:40 pm
cons are wops.
Without party.
TaxPayer
January 17th, 2013
7:41 pm
Cons are so easily manipulated. A rod and a staff to comfort them is all one needs.
Nduka
January 17th, 2013
7:41 pm
I have enjoyed following this interesting conversation but now I too have to run – time to exfoliate and moisturize.
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
7:43 pm
I’m so glad Jay said spicy mix and not frothy mix.
stands for decibels
January 17th, 2013
7:46 pm
I’m so glad Jay said spicy mix and not frothy mix.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
josef
January 17th, 2013
7:47 pm
GRANNY
Yeah, I remember that one toasty room, too…now that you mention it I may not be so homesick after all!
Our house was one of those that was built before air conditioning and was, well, airy!
But the magic wonder of the l’il ones exploring it…ah, yes…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
7:48 pm
“The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is
that a warrior takes everything as a challenge, while an ordinary
man takes everything as a blessing or as a curse.”
Matus
Boris Badnoff
January 17th, 2013
7:54 pm
This is all quite confusing to me. I have watched John Wayne dispatch many Japanese soldiers in WWII and I drive a Toyota. I have watched hours of Road Runner cartoons and have never purchased an anvil from the Acme Corp. My only homicidal tendencies are directed toward the woman who does the commercials for Regressive Auto Insurance who has a voice, personality, and mannerisms who makes me want to burn ever bed on earth. So far all I have learned from this blog is who would be dumb enough to use WebMD.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
8:01 pm
Getalife
Because the guy who said it is Italian
I posted it because if anyone thinks Chrysler is an American company anymore they’re, um, wrong
Keith
January 17th, 2013
8:02 pm
I am not keithb. Dont even know him.
Steve-USA (I don't have all the answer's, I don't even know all the questions)
January 17th, 2013
8:06 pm
Up here in the hills North of Atlanta we have a gun shop that has had a full parking lot for months. At some point even a fat man has enough donuts, how many guns do you guys need? Seriously at what point does the pro-gun people reach the saturation point when it comes to their personal arsenal?
Jm
January 17th, 2013
8:07 pm
Getalife
There’s also the comedy of an Italian thinking Italian made cars are better than American
Because that’s definitely not the case
Keith
January 17th, 2013
8:07 pm
its pretty funny seeing anti-gun fanatics making up silly stories about gunowners trying to compensate for some penile shortcoming when the largest market for guns these days are women. Do they really believe that a woman arming herself because she is being stalked, or is home alone like the recent case, that she is trying to compensate for a lack of some sexual inadequacy. They are really sick if they believe that.
OBIWAN
January 17th, 2013
8:08 pm
And in another study we found that driving a sports car also raises your testosterone levels. I say ban all sports cars…
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:09 pm
Do you have some sort of agenda here,
Yes indigo. It is to try and understand why you are so bitter.
TaxPayer
January 17th, 2013
8:11 pm
Once these conned figure out that they cannot feed their famblies or themselves with the guns they purchased, the pawn shops will become saturated with them and others will be able to pick up firearms for a fraction of what the cons spent.
OBIWAN
January 17th, 2013
8:11 pm
And in another study we found that being a male is a room full of beautiful women also raises his testosterone, I say ban all the beautiful women, oh wait the liberals have already done that….
indigo
January 17th, 2013
8:11 pm
Peace – 7:16 & 7:25
Did your fundamentalist pastor dictate these responses?
In any event, evasion and insults are not an answer.
Why can’t you just admit that, if your God knows all and sees all, and allows spontaneous abortions, but completely forbids us humans to do abortions on our own, then He is a “do as I say, not as I do” God?
Is that just too complicated for you?
Or, does it back you into a corner that neither you or your pastor can get out of?
Keith
January 17th, 2013
8:11 pm
Seriously at what point does the pro-gun people reach the saturation point when it comes to their personal arsenal?
Why does it matter to you? We are spending money helping the economy. Perhaps if you were doing something productive you could help the economy too. So go buy your son a Barbie Doll with all the accessories and stop worrying about what I am buying.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
8:12 pm
“But here’s the reality check for the green movement: Obama has proposed no new strategy on climate, it’s unclear if one is in the works, and there’s no guarantee the issue will occupy a major place in the inaugural address or next month’s State of the Union. ”
Boo
Obama sux
Worthless
Keith
January 17th, 2013
8:14 pm
Its pretty funny how these libs can strongly oppose something until obama decides to support it then they magically change their minds. Like Gitmo. It was a huge issue when Bush was in office. Now it doesnt matter. When Bush killed terrorists he was called judge, jury and executioner. No such accusations against barry.
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
8:15 pm
Kudos, Jay!
I definitely expected more than a few post election meltdowns.
But oowee! These violence addicted but impotent lunatics in the GOP are going absolutely berserk, huh>
The funniest part is that they actually think that they are on some sort of righteous crusade to save the republic from communists, Marxists and socialists. (Oh my)
But then again, these rubes actually thought that Mitt the Messiah had a snowball’s chance in h-e-double el of even competing in the aforementioned election.
I’d sure be scarce if I was the wife, children or family pet of some of these nutjobs!
indigo
January 17th, 2013
8:16 pm
Keith – 8:07 “the largest market for guns these days are women”
Then why, when the news shows long lines of people at gun stores in many cities, are they ALL men?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:17 pm
Up here in the hills North of Atlanta we have a gun shop that has had a full parking lot for months. At some point even a fat man has enough donuts, how many guns do you guys need? Seriously at what point does the pro-gun people reach the saturation point when it comes to their personal arsenal?
What’s it to you? Are you being charged for the guns they buy? You want the County to refuse the sales tax? You want the gun shop owner to quit selling guns so he can go on unemployment? Or does is it just irk you that free people can buy something you don’t like?
I went down Cheshire Bridge Road the other night and the parking lots to a couple of strip clubs were slam full of cars. You know, it didn’t bother me a bit. I just drove on by and went about my own business.
Get Real
January 17th, 2013
8:22 pm
“Scorned Woman” hot sauce is the best
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:22 pm
Once these conned figure out that they cannot feed their famblies or themselves with the guns they purchased, the pawn shops will become saturated with them and others will be able to pick up firearms for a fraction of what the cons spent.
Obviously you didn’t price an “assault weapon” during the previous ban. A lot of people are buying guns now because they expect the assault weapons ban to be reinstated and they will double their money, at least.
Doggone/GA
January 17th, 2013
8:23 pm
“Seriously at what point does the pro-gun people reach the saturation point when it comes to their personal arsenal?”
Time to dust off what I said when all this first started: as long as they are law abiding…it’s none of your business
Get Real
January 17th, 2013
8:24 pm
Keith…did you really expect fairness and balance with liberals? They define hypocrisy
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
8:28 pm
I’m with heathen and Doggone.
If these perpetually frightened faketriots want to spend their last minimum wage dime on their arsenal, I say go for it.
But to show just how demented they really are, they blame their purchases on………………… yep, Barack Obama.
No wonder they want no part of a mental health test to buy firearms!
getalife
January 17th, 2013
8:29 pm
jm,
In this global experiment called globalization to make the rich richer, most American companies sold out.
Even your precious stock exchange.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
8:32 pm
cons,
Did you fix your party yet or are you still without party?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:32 pm
dog: Awful lot of people fretting about what other people are doing, huh?
A boy is sitting on the curb smoking a cigarette.
A lady stops and says, “Little boy. Don’t you know that cigarettes are bad for you?”
Little Boy: ” Lady, my grand daddy lived to be a hundred.”
Lady: “And did he smoke?”
Little Boy: ” No, but he minded his own damn business.”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
8:35 pm
Would someone care to opine why Illinois (with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation) has such a violence problem while Vermont (with arguably the least restrictive gun laws in the nation) has very little ?
Note: You can move to Vermont tomorrow and carry a pistol concealed or unconcealed without a permit.
F. Sinkwich
January 17th, 2013
8:35 pm
“But then again, these rubes actually thought that Mitt the Messiah had a snowball’s chance in h-e-double el of even competing in the aforementioned election.”
Actually, Jammie, the Mittster had a pretty good chance.
‘Cept O’bozo rallied the freeloaders, like you and the rest of Jay’s Kommie Kludge here, more so than he was able to rally the productive, since they were at work.
TaxPayer
January 17th, 2013
8:36 pm
Cons are entertaining with all their cowardly talk about the big bad Obama the tyrant and how they just has to has more rods and staffs to comfort themselves so long as he’s around.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:36 pm
getalife: Does this strike a chord?
per·sev·er·a·tion (pr-sv-rshn)
n.
1. Uncontrollable repetition of a particular response, such as a word, phrase, or gesture, despite the absence or cessation of a stimulus, usually caused by brain injury or other organic disorder.
F. Sinkwich
January 17th, 2013
8:37 pm
“No wonder they want no part of a mental health test to buy firearms!”
Link, please.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
8:37 pm
godless,
Like wop?
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
8:38 pm
Good grief only an inveterate wild eyed far-left liberal or an op-ed commentator with low T could come up with anything as silly as this. I report, you decide.
Shine
January 17th, 2013
8:39 pm
The test is flawwed. The FDA has ruled that using yankees as subjects for any sort of fact finding relating to normal human behavior is idiotic. .
getalife
January 17th, 2013
8:40 pm
The cons are paying outrageous prices for their guns and ammo.
Easy money.
Old Physics Teacher
January 17th, 2013
8:40 pm
Using stats from the Brady Campaign (not even close to non-partisan)
Murders/deaths/suicide/accident/etc by gun TOTAL = 31,593
(includes a SIGNIFICANT number of people who shot themselves) non-partisan stats show the number nearer 10,500
Survivors = wounded by gun TOTAL= 66,769
Includes those deliberately shot by police
Number of deaths by automobile in 2009 total = 35,900
Number of people PERMANENTLY injured in car collisions in 2009 =2,219,000 (that’s 2 MILLION!)
Federal stats available by google-ing
Seems like we have a worse automobile problem than a gun problem. Maybe we need to be restricting the size of car’s gas tanks and putting a governor on EVERY car???
Really guys, get some perspective. The problem is we’re bringing a gun to a mental-health and crime fight.
For a two member family, we have 6 firearms and the rounds go where I aim them. I would dearly love to take my wife to downtown Atlanta to see the Fox and the small theaters and restaurants and stay till the wee hours, but the only way I would even consider going down there is armed to the teeth, and I’m not willing to do that. It’s not safe down there, and i have no interest in putting myself into a dangerous situation when I can stay home and watch HBO safely, and that’s the REAL crime here!
1) People wouldn’t go armed to the teeth if they felt safe, but everyone knows the judicial branch has put a revolving door on the jail for violent criminals and threw away the key for drug users. The cops can’t protect the average citizen.
Until this gets fixed people will continue to buy guns.
2) Crazy people get guns???? WHY????
weetamoe
January 17th, 2013
8:40 pm
They don’t make me feel like a man; do they make Janet Napolitano feel like a man? Your wife? You report; we query
Wealthy African-American physician T Howard of Mississippi kept a Thompson sub-machine gun at the foot of his bed and wore a pistol at his waist. African-American civil rights activist John Salter said, *I’m alive today because of the Second Amendment and the natural right to keep and bear arms.* I think the natural right argument speaks from the moral high ground, based as it is on first principles. The son of the founder of Louisiana’s Deacons for Defense. says that while walking in honor of Dr King on Monday he will also be taking steps in honor of gun appreciation day.
Keith
January 17th, 2013
8:41 pm
Then why, when the news shows long lines of people at gun stores in many cities, are they ALL men?
Did you ever stop to think they may be buying for their wives, daughters etc? Right now tho the main market is for so-called assault weapons, and mostly men are getting those. But before the lame stream media inspired frenzy a very large segment of the market was women buying guns.
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
8:43 pm
I bet if one drank a bottle of Frank’s hot sauce at one time, one’s yin would rise too.
Ban Frank’s hot sauce!
Tom Middleton
January 17th, 2013
8:43 pm
Now they should give them guns to handle with the hot-sauce thing to follow, and then they should give them “stand your ground” laws and see what they try to do. So far in Florida we have the deaths of two innocent young men, God help us!
Jay
January 17th, 2013
8:43 pm
But before the lame stream media inspired frenzy a very large segment of the market was women buying guns.
You mean NRA-inspired frenzy, correct? The organization heavily funded by the gun industry to create panic in their target audience and drive them to buy even more of the gun industry’s product?
At one level, you do have to admire the effectiveness of that marketing strategy. It is a thing of beauty.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:45 pm
Talked to a couple of dims who bought guns today also. They are concerned that they won’t be able to in the future due to all the nuttery that is going around. They weren’t talking about Conservative nuttery either.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
8:48 pm
They are out of solutions for inner city murders but the truth is the only way to end it is to legalize drugs and end the drug war.
They knock off the competition to make more money.
They are casualties of the war on drugs.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:49 pm
Easy money.
Yup. Double your investment if an assault weapon (sic) ban is passed.
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
8:49 pm
It’s the presidents duty to protect the security of this nation. It’s the mans responsibility to protect his families security in the home. It’s the far left liberals responsibility to his ideology to do neither. That’s the difference between conservatives and liberals.
OBIWAN
January 17th, 2013
8:50 pm
I wonder why liberals hate Mitt Romney, he has so many scandals, oh wait, can’t think of one. He has all these pictures of him out on the town drunk, oh wait he does not drink, or maybe womanizing, oh wait; he has been married to the same woman for 40 years……How about all those drug stories, oh wait, not only has he never taken any drugs, he does not even take anything caffeinated…. Gee how about how money grubbing he is, oh wait he gave 100% of the millions his father left him to charity, dang he sounds like a real jerk, that I would be honored to have as my neighbor…. Why is it again you liberals don’t like him?
weetamoe
January 17th, 2013
8:50 pm
My Nonna resents the wop slur. My Goombah does too.
And you should make those *cons* who live in your heads pay rent because they are imposters.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:51 pm
Jay, They buying frenzy is not inspired by the NRA. It is inspired by the President and the gun grabbers that are posting voraciously here all day long.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
8:52 pm
“They are concerned that they won’t be able to in the future due to all the nuttery that is going around.”
Well unless it is an “assault” weapon which the ban will not past Congress anyway, they have been duped.
I haven’t read any legitimate initiatives to ban any another “firearms”.
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
8:52 pm
“I wonder why liberals hate Mitt Romney”
The war on Romney is over.
Now the war lies with the NRA.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
8:52 pm
godless,
The only problem is there will be no AR ban.
You got punked by the nra.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
8:55 pm
“the gun grabbers ”
Guess they missed my place or just haven’t gotten to my street yet.
The percentage of those that want all guns banned is minimal and there is little to no support in DC.
Hyped up paranoia when the talk turns to people grabbing or confiscating firearms.
So the marketing campaign by the NRA is working well.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
8:55 pm
“any other”
getalife
January 17th, 2013
8:56 pm
“those *cons* who live in your heads pay rent because they are imposters.”
Oh no, you mean these cons posting here are not real?
I got catfished?
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
8:57 pm
You got punked by the nra
Nope the president did and he’s asking for more. He’ll get it.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:57 pm
The only problem is there will be no AR ban.
You got punked by the nra.
Last gun I bought was a bolt action.
You got punked by the President.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:59 pm
Well unless it is an “assault” weapon which the ban will not past Congress anyway, they have been duped.
I haven’t read any legitimate initiatives to ban any another “firearms”.
Probably. But it’s not my money, so it does not bother me.
Shine
January 17th, 2013
8:59 pm
I’m no “liberal” but I dont like Romney because he is a weirdo….and his weirdness was pointed out above.
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
9:00 pm
Sticky Fingers…
That’s what the liberals should be called now.
Watch out for their sticky fingers…
Your wallet.
Your weekly paycheck.
Your security.
Your social security.
Your health care.
Your freedom.
Beware of the sticky fingers.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:00 pm
“You got punked by the President.”
Yeah, the President forced to to pay marked up ,outrageous prices for your guns and ammo.
And you wonder why they call you insane?
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:00 pm
“Last gun I bought was a bolt action. ”
And that particular gun is listed in a bill in Congress as one to be banned or on an Executive Order that is waiting to be signed?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:01 pm
How many got punked with Facebook stock? There was a buying frenzy over that. Didn’t bother me either.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
9:01 pm
Recon:
“It’s the presidents duty to protect the security of this nation. It’s the mans responsibility to protect his families security in the home. It’s the far left liberals responsibility to his ideology to do neither. That’s the difference between conservatives and liberals.”
Best one yet ! You hit the nail on the head.
Also notice none of the libs. have chosen to opine to my 8:35 regarding the difference between Illinois and Vermont ?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:02 pm
And that particular gun is listed in a bill in Congress as one to be banned or on an Executive Order that is waiting to be signed?
No.
Redcoat
January 17th, 2013
9:03 pm
Liberals love psycho babble, and spending other people’s money for it
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
9:03 pm
Enter your comments hereRecon:
“It’s the presidents duty to protect the security of this nation. It’s the mans responsibility to protect his families security in the home. It’s the far left liberals responsibility to his ideology to do neither. That’s the difference between conservatives and liberals.”
Best one yet ! You hit the nail on the head.
Also notice none of the libs. have chosen to opine to my 8:35 regarding the difference between Illinois and Vermont ?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:04 pm
And you wonder why they call you insane?
I’m not paying marked up outrageous prices for my guns and ammo.
And you wonder why they call you delusional?
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:06 pm
godless
Doesn’t bother me either. If any given individual’s paranoia is driving them to purchase weapons at a higher price because they think it will be banned that is their choice.
If someone is running out to purchase “firearms” that could be listed as an “assault” weapon, I could actually see that logic, even though I doubt they will be banned.
If one is rushing to the store to purchase hand guns because they think they are about to be banned, their choice, but they are willfully ignorant of the facts. And yes the marketing campaign by the NRA is working as planned.
Not to this extent, but the NRA sold the line the when Obama was elected the 1st time. This isn’t new.
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
9:07 pm
0311/ 8541,
Thanks…Vermont is a beautiful state, I’ve traveled through it. They need to dump Bernie Sanders though.
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
9:08 pm
godless, getalife already said before he bought his assault rifles in Mexico for cheap.
getalife is going to Gitmo once Obama catches him.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:10 pm
And yes the marketing campaign by the NRA is working as planned.
Specifics please? What is the marketing campaign of the NRA? The NRA doesn’t manufacture or sell firearms.
Venn diagram of the what most dims believe about the NRA and the truth:
O O
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:10 pm
“getalife is going to Gitmo once Obama catches him.”
That was pretty funny
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
9:11 pm
Recon:
I hear you ………… but what’s the difference re: crime/gun carry ?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:11 pm
getalife is going to Gitmo once Obama catches him.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:11 pm
Jay, They buying frenzy is not inspired by the NRA. It is inspired by the President and the gun grabbers that are posting voraciously here all day long.
Bullcrap. The buying frenzy started in 2008 and only left the conscious mind because of other media driven stories like the debt limit crap, healthcare crap, and other stuff since then. There was no “gun” agenda in 2008, and they were selling out just as much then as they are now. The NRA drives the sales to feed their industry sponsors. Ain’t nobody taking no guns, banning any guns, or doing much of anything else about legislation. Congress can’t even do simple disaster relief legislation so how in the hell are they going to pass something as sweeping as gun legislation?
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:11 pm
Moonbat
This song came to mind when I read your “sticky fingers” post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnmBpFSM5jw
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
9:12 pm
“That was pretty funny”
TBS, it ain’t funny, it’s true!
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:12 pm
getalife is going to Gitmo once Obama catches him.
He might just drone his ass.
Jay
January 17th, 2013
9:13 pm
From Businessinsider.com:
“In its early days, the National Rifle Association was a grassroots social club that prided itself on independence from corporate influence.
While that is still part of the organization’s core function, today less than half of the NRA’s revenues come from program fees and membership dues.
The bulk of the group’s money now comes in the form of contributions, grants, royalty income, and advertising, much of it originating from gun industry sources.
Since 2005, the gun industry and its corporate allies have given between $20 million and $52.6 million to it through the NRA Ring of Freedom sponsor program. Donors include firearm companies like Midway USA, Springfield Armory Inc, Pierce Bullet Seal Target Systems, and Beretta USA Corporation. Other supporters from the gun industry include Cabala’s, Sturm Rugar & Co, and Smith & Wesson.
The NRA also made $20.9 million — about 10 percent of its revenue — from selling advertising to industry companies marketing products in its many publications in 2010, according to the IRS Form 990.
Additionally, some companies donate portions of sales directly to the NRA. Crimson Trace, which makes laser sights, donates 10 percent of each sale to the NRA. Taurus buys an NRA membership for everyone who buys one of their guns. Sturm Rugar gives $1 to the NRA for each gun sold, which amounts to millions. The NRA’s revenues are intrinsically linked to the success of the gun business.
The NRA Foundation also collects hundreds of thousands of dollars from the industry, which it then gives to local-level organizations for training and equipment purchases.
(http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-industry-funds-nra-2013-1#ixzz2IHzjal6T )
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:14 pm
Ain’t nobody taking no guns, banning any guns, or doing much of anything else about legislation.
If that wasn’t President Obama talking about an assault weapon (sic) ban the other night on the TV, was it just the imagination of “gun nuts”?
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
9:15 pm
TBS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfsvS4v8ZL8
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
9:16 pm
Actually, Jammie, the Mittster had a pretty good chance.
Stupid with a capital S.
That weakling never had a chance. The day he was nominated I said he was going to get crushed. And I was damn near prescient with my prediction that he would not get 200 EC votes.
A pathetic party deserves a pathetic candidate and that is what you got, Aesop Andy…
You moochers got crushed. Get used to it, there are even worse days ahead for you losers…
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:17 pm
Jay, The NRA does not manufacture or sell guns. They may be likened to an industry trade group, but so what? There are a lot of similar organizations in this society.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:17 pm
godless
Someone doesn’t have to directly sell something to “sell” a product or service or encourage people to purchase.
Many lobbyist don’t actually sell the actual product or service they are pushing but they do receive funds to push certain legislation or work to stymie legislation…………. Heck many do not even work directly for the companies they are advocating for. They work for various trade groups, etc
You damn well know that. But you can pretend that you don’t all you like.
Vladimir
January 17th, 2013
9:17 pm
Dr. Susan Gratia before House subcommittee on guns. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awjxvMRdF-U
Gun Control in Australia – Watch and Weep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGaDAThOHhA
When a country takes away guns from its citizens it’s in big trouble as they are finding out in Australia.
USC
January 17th, 2013
9:18 pm
It appears many of the bloggers here want to pick a fight. Just thinking about guns and they think they are men. In the 21st century men will have to take responsibiliy for their actions, including their anonymous words. The name calling and immaturity here is a good indication of why guns in their hands are dangerous. They forget where they are and have to be arrested at the airport. They fail to lock them up and their kids accidentally kill themselves or take the Bushmaster down to the local school and shoot it up. Every gun in the U.S. was initially in the hands of a person stated to be responsible and, when it is used in a crime – that responsible person is responsible. Get over it. Grow up. Testosterone is high in 12 year olds but they are not men.
Jay
January 17th, 2013
9:18 pm
“Jay, The NRA does not manufacture or sell guns.”
No, they don’t. They merely panic the crowd into buying guns from those who DO manufacture and sell guns. That is their function, and they do it very well.
Liberal Pariah
January 17th, 2013
9:18 pm
You do realize the Hollywood Lobby spends ten times what the NRA does in Washington to continue their societally destructive agenda don’t you? Where’s the outrage, the poutrage? So what’s your point Jay? That a lobby looks out for it’s own interests. No news here, move on.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:19 pm
USC: Stereotype much?
Jay
January 17th, 2013
9:20 pm
With hunting in decline, the industry needed to create a new market for its goods, and through the NRA it has found a vehicle for doing so.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:20 pm
If that wasn’t President Obama talking about an assault weapon (sic) ban the other night on the TV, was it just the imagination of “gun nuts”?
Obama can talk until he turns pasty White, and that still doesn’t make a ban happen. Congress has to legislate and pass a ban. As I said, if they can’t do a simple disaster bill, what makes you think they’re going to pass a weapons ban?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:23 pm
They merely panic the crowd into buying guns from those who DO manufacture and sell guns.
They don’t need to panic the crowd. The Demo pols and the uninformed lazy media types do a fine job of it.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:25 pm
Jay 9:13
What the NRA does is no different than wht the AARP does, sadly
It’s mind boggling that they get to make money promoting expanded Medicare products
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:25 pm
Obama can talk until he turns pasty White, and that still doesn’t make a ban happen. Congress has to legislate and pass a ban. As I said, if they can’t do a simple disaster bill, what makes you think they’re going to pass a weapons ban?
I don’t, but you don’t see me standing in line at the gun store to buy an assault rifle(sic), either.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:26 pm
At least the NRA doesn’t make money from government handouts like AARP does
Keith
January 17th, 2013
9:28 pm
No, they don’t. They merely panic the crowd into buying guns from those who DO manufacture and sell guns. That is their function, and they do it very well.
WRONG AGAIN Jay. You are on a roll. Its people like baaaaarack and his sheeple like you and feinsten that create the hysteria that sells guns and ammo. when you use the graves of children for a stage to spout of your maniacal ideas about banning guns, registering guns, anything you think will fly people believe you are serious. So you get preempted. They are getting them now just in case baaaarack and his sheeeple can convince just enough people to get your crazy ideas passed into law.
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
9:30 pm
Jay, should run an expose on the AARP but no one should hold their breath. The NRA is among the finest protectors of traditional conservative values. The ALCU is among the the worst detractors of traditional conservative values. Traditional conservative values in this country will ultimately rule make no mistake about it.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:30 pm
“I said, if they can’t do a simple disaster bill, what makes you think they’re going to pass a weapons ban?”
Catch up
It’s already been passed by the house
F. Sinkwich
January 17th, 2013
9:30 pm
“New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie slammed the National Rifle Association’s latest ad in which they accuse President Barack Obama of hypocrisy for sending his children to a school where they are protected by armed guards. Christie called the ad “reprehensible” and said that the NRA should not be “dragging people’s children” into the gun control debate.”
Yankees. Who needs ‘em?
Not me…
Keith
January 17th, 2013
9:31 pm
At least the NRA doesnt look forward to tragic events like school masaacres and utilize them to maximum political effect. And its pretty pathetic that you feel absolutely no shame is trying to benefit from these events.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:31 pm
I don’t, but you don’t see me standing in line at the gun store to buy an assault rifle(sic), either.
I never made a claim that you were. Even if you were, I honestly wouldn’t give a rat’s ass as that’s your perrogative to spend your money on whatever you wanna spend it on. That doesn’t change the fact that the NRA and other far right groups were stoking fears about Obama trying to take guns or ban guns since 2008. That story started long before any of the recent mass shootings.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:31 pm
With hunting in decline, the industry needed to create a new market for its goods, and through the NRA it has found a vehicle for doing so.
The NRA has always been more involved in the shooting sports than in hunting. They, in conjunction with the US Army, sponsored the National Matches back in the day.
Did they get political? Yes, which is why I am no longer a member. There are other organizations which I think better represent my interests. I only defend them to the point of trying to keep facts separated from fiction.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:32 pm
Sink
I agree
Christie has worn thing enough to be discarded
td
January 17th, 2013
9:33 pm
Dam Jay,
It appears from your post that attempting to besmirch the good name of the NRA is raising your testosterone levels. I guess Ms. Bookman is going to be in for a long night tonight.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
9:34 pm
Illinois vs. Vermont?
Come on libs. ……………… you can do better than that !!
TaxPayer
January 17th, 2013
9:34 pm
Obama panics the cons and strikes fear into their widdle heads and makes them run out and stock up on guns. Er, excuse me, makes them get their wives to run out and stock up on guns for them while they cower in fear under the covers. You cons gotta quit this stuff. I can’t stop laughing at you.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:35 pm
Recon
It’s sick to me that AARP gets to make money off a social benefit, while lobbying for its expansion
He’ll most people don’t even know AARP gets to make money when they buy supplemental Medicare
It’s sick
It’s worse than military contractor lobbying
td
January 17th, 2013
9:35 pm
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:31 pm
Saying that the NRA is a far right group is total BS. They are a group that supports people from either party that has the same beliefs as they do.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:36 pm
Catch up
It’s already been passed by the house
Geez, it’s only about 10 days until hurricane season starts again. As I said, they can’t even do simple disaster bills, so how are they going to do gun legislation?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:36 pm
That doesn’t change the fact that the NRA and other far right groups were stoking fears about Obama trying to take guns or ban guns since 2008. That story started long before any of the recent mass shootings.
Clinton et al actually banned some guns. I wonder where people ever got the idea that pols were trying to ban some guns.
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
9:36 pm
Taxpayer,
If you were really a taxpayer, you would be outraged.
TaxPayer
January 17th, 2013
9:36 pm
At least the NRA doesnt look forward to tragic events like school masaacres and utilize them to maximum political effect.
I’ll pull a Kam and say, “LaPierre say what?”
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:37 pm
The system is rotten to the core
The only cure is a drastically smaller government
Then lobbying becomes less profitable and the rest of us get to live in peace
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:38 pm
I sold those to cons and made a killing
TaxPayer
January 17th, 2013
9:38 pm
I am outraged at the notion that you cons would even dream of shirking your responsibility to act responsibly by taxing yourselves in order to pay for all those armed security guards you want in all the schools to protect your own children from yourselves. Losers.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:39 pm
Sure did look like the President that was on TV the other night saying we should re-institute an assault rifle(sic) ban. But I guess it was an NRA spokesman in disguise.
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
9:39 pm
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie slammed the National Rifle Association’s latest ad…
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
You do realize the Hollywood Lobby spends ten times what the NRA does in Washington…
You do realize that pulling stuff out of your ample backside is a sure fired way to have lots and lots of informed and intelligent people laugh at you, right Pariah?
i.e. your made up claim is absurd….
http://www.timewarner.com/newsroom/press-releases/1999/11/FORTUNE_Releases_Annual_Survey_Most_Powerful_Lobbying_11-15-1999.php
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
9:41 pm
Jm,
Yep, an unlicensed unregulated insurance provider that’s politically connected and ostensibly pretending to be an advocate for retired people. What a scam.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:42 pm
godless,
He said he would try.
It will fail.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:42 pm
Saying that the NRA is a far right group is total BS.
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/fact-sheets/2013/tenreasons.aspx
Introduction: In the late 1980s, gun control groups realized that they had failed in their original goal—getting handguns banned1—and began campaigning against semi-automatic firearms they called “assault weapons,” most of which are rifles. As an anti-gun activist group put it:
[A]ssault weapons [will] strengthen the handgun restriction lobby for the following reasons: It will be a new topic in what has become to the press and public an “old” debate. . . . [H]andgun restriction consistently remains a non-issue with the vast majority of legislators, the press, and public. . . . Efforts to restrict assault weapons are more likely to succeed than those to restrict handguns. . . . Although the opportunity to restrict assault weapons exists, a question remains for the handgun restriction movement: How?”2
Gun control supporters demanding a ban on “assault weapons” have also demanded a ban on ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, most of which are designed for self-defense handguns. These gun and magazine bans should be rejected because:
Yep, that sounds like some liberal mumbo jumbo there.
td
The fact that you are a member of the NRA is more than enough of a fact to know that it’s a far right group. You’re so damned afraid of anything appearing left that I bet you walk around with two right shoes on. The only BS is the crap you’re trying to peddle.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:42 pm
I am outraged at the notion that you cons would even dream of shirking your responsibility to act responsibly by taxing yourselves in order to pay for all those armed security guards you want in all the schools to protect your own children from yourselves. Losers.
I would much rather my tax money went to prop up failing alternative energy companies that contributed heavily to the President’s campaign. Yes siree.
Dixie Normous
January 17th, 2013
9:42 pm
Bookman is a few sandwiches short of a lunch basket.
Oscar
January 17th, 2013
9:42 pm
The cons post that liberals don’t want or own guns, and then they also post that all people who commit crimes with guns are liberals.
Strange logic.
Jay
January 17th, 2013
9:43 pm
Oh, the NRA would NEVER try to take advantage of a crisis!
And of course it would NEVER use it to panic people into a gun-buying spree on behalf of its corporate sponsors…..
“WASHINGTON — The National Rifle Association stepped up its anti-Obama rhetoric on Thursday, declaring in a fundraising email that President Barack Obama had allegedly “pledged to raise $20 million to ram his gun ban agenda through Congress.”
The claim was part of a fiery appeal by NRA chief lobbyist Chris Cox sent to the group’s approximately 4 million members. Cox wrote that Obama and “anti-gun politicians are on an all-out crusade” to “ban your guns and abolish every last sacred right you have under the Second Amendment … until they reduce your freedom to ashes.”
According to Cox, Obama’s “rich, gun-hating friends in Hollywood, along with anti-gun billionaire Michael Bloomberg, will shower him with the money he needs to strip you of your gun rights.”
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:45 pm
He said he would try.
It will fail.
Yup. Too many Dem Senators up for re-election in red states. And it will put a sh*t load of assault rifles(sic) on the street.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:45 pm
Gun companies invested in the nra to lobby to buy more guns was a very profitable investment.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:45 pm
godless
The ban that Clinton signed started because of a shooting at a Stockton, California elementary school in 1989. How much time passed between the actual incident and the bill getting signed into law? How much did the final legislation look like the original version? That “ban” was so watered down and filled with loopholes that it didn’t amount to much of a ban at all.
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
9:45 pm
Chis Christie is a bloviating Northeastern left-winger. This pipe dream that he’s a true conservative was/is an urban myth. What a joke that fat body is to the conservative cause.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:46 pm
“You’re so damned afraid of anything appearing left that I bet you walk around with two right shoes on”
Corns be damned………………… All ‘right’
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:46 pm
godless,
I doubt it would pass a filibuster so they will not even try.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:48 pm
The best part was the nra blamed violent video games then made one.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:49 pm
TBS
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:49 pm
“Yup. Too many Dem Senators up for re-election in red states. And it will put a sh*t load of assault rifles(sic) on the street.”
And those facts alone should tell anyone that this current purchasing frenzy, especially if it is not a weapon on the old “assault ban” list, is as much paronoia as anything.
td
January 17th, 2013
9:49 pm
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:42 pm
Money talks volumes. This is just members in the US Congress. Do you want to look at contributions to Dems in states?
Matheson, Jim (D-UT) House $6,950
Dingell, John D (D-MI) House $5,000
Ross, Mike (D-AR) House $5,000
Barrow, John (D-GA) House $4,950
Holden, Tim (D-PA) House $4,950
Shuler, Heath (D-NC) House $4,950
Chandler, Ben (D-KY) House $4,000
Bishop, Sanford D Jr (D-GA) House $3,650
Critz, Mark (D-PA) House $3,500
Hochul, Kathleen (D-NY) House $3,000
Kissell, Larry (D-NC) House $3,000
Michaud, Mike (D-ME) House $3,000
Ryan, Tim (D-OH) House $3,000
Schrader, Kurt (D-OR) House $3,000
Altmire, Jason (D-PA) House $2,500
Baca, Joe (D-CA) House $2,500
Cardoza, Dennis (D-CA) House $2,500
Peterson, Collin C (D-MN) House $2,500
Cuellar, Henry (D-TX) House $2,000
Kind, Ron (D-WI) House $2,000
McIntyre, Mike (D-NC) House $2,000
Rahall, Nick (D-WV) House $2,000
Walz, Timothy J (D-MN) House $2,000
Higgins, Brian M (D-NY) House $1,000
Lujan, Ben R (D-NM) House $1,000
Owens, Bill (D-NY) House $1,000
Manchin, Joe (D-WV) Senate $4,500
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000082&chamber=H&party=D&cycle=2012&state=&sort=A
F. Sinkwich
January 17th, 2013
9:51 pm
“Clinton et al actually banned some guns. I wonder where people ever got the idea that pols were trying to ban some guns.”
I bought my first handgun just after Slick Willie started his war on guns. I was in the market for one at the time but his actions accelerated my purchase.
It’s common knowledge, of course, that Dems are gun grabbers. If they had their way, the whole country would have the same draconian guns as Chicago, DC, California, NY, and other lib ilk cesspools.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:52 pm
235 mpg
God bless the Germans
An it doesn’t even use a battery
“The Volkswagen XL1 is marching ever closer to production. Spy photographers recently spotted the diesel hybrid prancing through the snow during a little winter testing, giving us our first look at the vehicle’s daytime running lights, as well as the LED taillamps. The ultra-efficient two-door is said to be capable of returning up to 235 miles per gallon thanks to its two-cylinder diesel engine, 27-horsepower electric motor and seven-speed dual-clutch transmission. We don’t expect the car to be quick off the line, but it’s hard to argue with triple-digit fuel economy numbers.”
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:52 pm
td
yes the NRA gives much money to elected officials in both parties………….. Not many organizations that large do not cover their bases?
Did you see their election investment return from November?
Since the assault weapon ban is going nowhere, they can at least get more bang for their buck on this issue
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:53 pm
The irony is that few people would gives a rat’s ass about owning an assault rifle(sic) until a few high profile incidents and the gun grabbers’ reaction brought them to the forefront in the 80s. The threat of a ban, and the ban created and fueled a market. Now there are millions out there and they are flying off the shelves faster than they can be restocked by the manufacturers. Now millions more assault rifles (sic) will be on the streets as a result of the recent ban threat. Some will fall into the wrong hands and people will die.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:53 pm
td,
You forgot to mention your party got more:
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000082
USA Patriot
January 17th, 2013
9:54 pm
“Gun companies invested in the nra to lobby to buy more guns was a very profitable investment.”
America, what a country!
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:54 pm
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/other-races/266983-report-nra-bats-almost-zero-in-elections
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
9:54 pm
True conservatism?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
You counterfeit versions killed it.
Dead.
Witness Mitt Romney.
There is nothing conservative about your corporate-backed frauds in the NRA.
True conservatives would puke at the sight of you neocons…
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:55 pm
Did you cons think the gridlock stopped ?
AlterEgo
January 17th, 2013
9:56 pm
“Oh, the NRA would NEVER try to take advantage of a crisis!”
Perhaps the got that advice from now-Mayor and then-WH Chief of Staff Emanuel.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:56 pm
Jammie
What’s funny is the current neocon prez is still using tons of surveillance to monitor you and your nutso pals
RB from Gwinnett
January 17th, 2013
9:56 pm
Here’s a great idea!!! Lets spew hate all over gun owners and then pretend we don’t understand why they don’t want to “come together” with us. It’s the liberal way!!!
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:57 pm
Everyone have a great night and an even better tomorrow…………….
Peace
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
9:57 pm
The dumb butts, Biden and Obama or fat mouth and little man are scurrying around like rats looking for cheese among democraps in the senate trying to gin up votes for their gun confiscation agenda. The country faces a far greater threat to our very survival with the national debt crises, while these two losers pretend to be national leaders.
td
January 17th, 2013
9:58 pm
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:53 pm
td,
You forgot to mention your party got more
I thought that was pretty much a given since they support like minded politicians and most is not all Republicans would never get elected with out their support of the 2nd Amendment.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:58 pm
“They cling to their guns and religion”
Thomas J
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:59 pm
Money talks volumes. This is just members in the US Congress. Do you want to look at contributions to Dems in states?
What does that list supposed to prove? I’ll donate money to a candidate for the first time ever if you walk up to Joe Manchin and call him a Liberal. I’ll double it if you do it with the “liberal” as the sneer that you far righties use it as. Just because they donate to Liberals don’t excuse them from their far rightedness.
In case you haven’t noticed, ALL major money players donate to both sides. What far left liberals does the NRA support? How much have they donated to Nancy Pelosi? Barney Frank? You’re digging your own hole by trying to prove something that you can’t prove. I thought you far righties were proud of your “principles” and such. Why are you trying to disavow the very group you belong to and pay dues to support your principles?
USA Patriot
January 17th, 2013
9:59 pm
“You forgot to mention your party got more” – Yep, that happens when the majority wins.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:00 pm
del,
Any word on how they will “fix” the gop yet?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
10:01 pm
Jay, If you want to see examples of over the top rhetoric to counter your NRA quotes, I recommend bradycampaign.org.
Or how about the moveon.org ad that was posted here the other day that suggested a .22 rimfire was a hunting round while the .233 (sic) was a child killing round.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
10:01 pm
Good job Ford (not Government Motors)
“The Ford Fusion Energi, the automaker’s second production plug-in hybrid after the Ford C-Max Energi, officially boasts a range of 620 miles between fuel stops when calculated with EPA-rated figures (108 miles per gallon equivalent in the city, 92 MPGe highway and 100 MPGe combined). Of that distance, the sedan is capable of running 21 miles in electric-only mode.
To eliminate confusion for those who are numerically challenged, Ford’s press release defines the range in more real-world terms, mentioning that its “Fusion Energi can travel from Boston to Virginia Beach on one tank of gas and one full charge or traverse the West Coast’s scenic Highway 101 from Sacramento to San Diego.” That’s impressive, especially since we don’t know of many passengers who can handle ten hours in the seat without a pit stop.”
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
10:01 pm
Just because they donate to
LiberalsDemocrats…Jeez… I’m beginning to talk like y’all far righties. Gonna have to clorox my brain.
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
10:01 pm
What’s funny is the current neocon prez was called the most liberal man in the history of mankind by you intellectual weaklings.
You are so damn willfully stupid that you don’t what a conservative is.
Little wonder considering that you have your own idiotic, alternative English…
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:04 pm
USA,
The majority wanted action and they got it.
They will get better background checks.
That is what you cons are freaking out over.
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
10:07 pm
Jeez… I’m beginning to talk like y’all far righties. Gonna have to clorox my brain.
LOL, Bro!
One of the right wingers last night was trying to convince himself that both major parties had moved LEFT in the past forty years.
I ____ you not.
I put that one right up there with Christianity is not a religion, the USA is not a democracy and the planet’s rising temperatures are a liberal hoax…
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:07 pm
jm,
You can thank our President for the change in gas mileage.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
10:08 pm
Any word on how they will “fix” the gop yet?
I’m no doctor but I understand that with therapy and drugs perseveration can be treated.
USA Patriot
January 17th, 2013
10:08 pm
“That is what you cons are freaking out over.” – OMG, the fed’s are going to “get better background checks”? USPS – Fail! Medicaid – Fail! Food stamps – Fail! Stimulus monies – Fail! Want to keep going? HA! HA! HA!
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:10 pm
Yeah, keep going with those lies USA.
You are divided and conquered.
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
10:13 pm
USA Faketriot, why do you hate this country so much?
Did something bad happen to you as a child?
td
January 17th, 2013
10:13 pm
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:59 pm
Why in the h3ll would a group donate to anyone that does not believe in their cause? The far left loonies have an agenda to get rid of all citizens having guns, look at Chicago and NY for examples of the overall plans. The NRA donates to people of like mind and it does not matter the party. If they are donating to Democrats then they can not be considered “far right” because a far right organization would not donate any money to a Democrat.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
10:14 pm
Getalife
W was already well on the way
Yes Obama has increased them
Would’ve been far better for the economy if they’d raised the gas tax instead of the mpg requirements
Mpg standards are incredibly inefficient at reducing co2
USA Patriot
January 17th, 2013
10:14 pm
“Yeah, keep going with those lies USA” – You crack me up!
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:16 pm
How do you fix a failed party?
Start a new one.
Whigs.
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
10:17 pm
Man isn’t Holloween several months away. Of course successfully masquerading Barack Obama as a conservative would be the height of Holloween. “neocon” what a stupid left wing label dating back to the 1930’s but today’s neolibs don’t understand that their masters have handed them an outdated expression. Oh well lib’s have mostly always been followers. Guess it’s in their DNA.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:17 pm
jm,
That bailout had strings attached.
w’s bailout for the banks did not.
td
January 17th, 2013
10:19 pm
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:04 pm
The majority wanted action and they got it.
They will get better background checks.
That is what you cons are freaking out over.
Only because you progressives know better then to mess with the people and their gun rights. Last time the dems had the hubris to mess with the peoples gun rights they lost the house of reps for the first time in 40 something years. Dingy Harry is scared to death to take on the NRA and he not even bring up anything in the Senate that might put his power in jeopardy.
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
10:20 pm
Neocons hate it when they are busted for being frauds.
Time for some new Purity Tests…
Jm
January 17th, 2013
10:20 pm
Get
Yes
Strings like you must bail out my union buds
Ok, sleep calls
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:23 pm
td,
The ban is coming after the next slaughter of children.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
10:24 pm
One of the right wingers last night was trying to convince himself that both major parties had moved LEFT in the past forty years.
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
10:28 pm
“The ban is coming after the next slaughter of children.”
You’re probably now under survelllance.
td
January 17th, 2013
10:29 pm
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:16 pm
How do you fix a failed party?
Start a new one.
Whigs.
Nope work with what you have and in the Republicans case that means they control the House of Reps and should stop doing private negotiations with the President and go back to regular order and pass their agenda in the House.
Republicans totally control 24 states and control at least one house in 6 other states. They should continue the work of governors like Walker in Wisconsin. Balance the budget and crush the government employees unions. I really hope they go for the congressional district in the electoral college in MI, WI, OH and PA. This would put them back in the drivers seat in Presidential elections.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
10:30 pm
If they are donating to Democrats then they can not be considered “far right” because a far right organization would not donate any money to a Democrat.
WRONG!!! Just because a person has a (D) behind their name, that doesn’t automatically mean they are liberal. See, you conservatives are so hellbent on party purity that you forget that both parties used to have somewhat equal mixes of liberal and conservative members. Since y’all started the whole “I’m more conservative than you” meme, your membership is shrinking and so is your national election vote totals.
So, the NRA supports conservative Democrats, who cares? Still doesn’t change the fact that they’re far enough to the right that they wouldn’t know what moderate was if someone spelled it out on their home office windows for them, even with that spelling including Braille.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:31 pm
Good luck with that td.
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
10:33 pm
The refreshes on here this evening move about as fast as old people enjoy themselves. This old guy is out. Taps
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
10:33 pm
I really hope they go for the congressional district in the electoral college in MI, WI, OH and PA. This would put them back in the drivers seat in Presidential elections.
When your ideology sucks and voters know it, you try to change the rules to narrow the votes to your likening. And think of all the conservatives who accuse Dems of election tampering…
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:34 pm
“You’re probably now under survelllance.”
They keep a folder of all your comments.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
10:35 pm
“I really hope they go for the congressional district in the electoral college in MI, WI, OH and PA. This would put them back in the drivers seat in Presidential elections.”
And that would be so different than the GOP efforts last November, right?
And I’m really gone
MeetInTheMiddle
January 17th, 2013
10:38 pm
@ JamVet
Man, the revelation that our country has actually moved left of the last 40 years really upset you last night didn’t it? Shouldn’t you be happy about that? Or is it just too upsetting for the narrative you’ve crafted to make you feel good about yourself?
Read Steven Pinker’s “Better Angels of Our Nature” sometime if you can pry yourself away from belittling everyone else and espousing homicidal fantasies against those you disagree with on this page.
I’ll ask you again: how, exactly, are we currently to the right of a society 40 years ago that seriously debated – on both sides – the positives and negatives of letting black and white people go to the same schools and drink from the same water fountains???
Get over it. We’re moving – ever so slowly – to the left. It shouldn’t get your panties all wadded up to admit that. You should be happy.
td
January 17th, 2013
10:39 pm
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
10:33 pm
Sort of like changing the rules to vote for a month so that you can browbeat people into getting on the bus and voting although they really could care a less? This would just be re evening the playing field.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
10:40 pm
Bro
exactly…. they went after those same states in November and FAILED……………..
GOP knows without changes the demographic game is not their friend. These “new” proposals are just a way to stymie the inevitable.
Since, the party in power usually doesn’t win the mid term, imo the GOP will not do much more than cosmetic changes before 2014. Hopefully some real changes by 2016. Otherwise, td is going to need even more than those lies about oversampling he bought into, even to convince him of a GOP win.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:41 pm
I know the gop are moving left on immigration to try to get the Latino vote.
That will probably be all the change for the gop.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
10:42 pm
td
FL shortened the voting days. How did that work?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
10:45 pm
Advertisement in Texas:
“Bring your guns and come here !”
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
10:47 pm
td
Nah, that’s nothing. Y’all righties have always been anti-bussing. That rule change is more like cutting early voting in half, cutting hours in urban areas, and then whining about someone stomping on military voting rights because they’re trying to get equal ballot box access for ALL voters.
Y’all conservatives know how to cheat with class and style. Must be one of those principles things.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
10:51 pm
TBS
I doubt td needs much of anything else. His peacock displays already shows that he believes regardless to what everything else shows.
Simple Truths
January 17th, 2013
10:52 pm
After reading this, I’m really craving chicken wings now.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
10:55 pm
Way past quitting time. Catch y’all later…
Aser706
January 17th, 2013
11:03 pm
Jay:
If I went out of my way to be a sample for the study and was handed a toy when the others got guns…. I’d pour less just to be done with it…
Forseti
January 17th, 2013
11:03 pm
Gun companies making a mint selling to the government overpriced guns due to sudden run on inventory.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
11:04 pm
“As President Obama tries to persuade a reluctant Congress to pass new gun laws, the poll found that a majority of Americans — 54 percent — think gun control laws should be tightened, up markedly from a CBS News poll last April that found that only 39 percent backed stricter laws.” NY Times.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
11:05 pm
Recon:
“Chis Christie is a bloviating Northeastern left-winger.”
He’s such a lightweight (no pun intended). He got his “jollies” just because Obama let him fly over the storm damage in Marine One and ever since he’s had stars in his eyes !!!
Geez !
Thulsa Doom
January 17th, 2013
11:08 pm
I guess that’s why I’ve never owned a gun and don’t plan to. Already got way too much of that testersterone stuff already.
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
11:38 pm
Thulsa,
Your fists should be considered deadly weapons!
Oscar
January 17th, 2013
11:50 pm
Doom – Try spinging more time playing ith baby toys. Should reduce your t. level tp somethin manageable.
Oscar
January 17th, 2013
11:51 pm
spending more time
moonbat betty
January 18th, 2013
12:06 am
Oscar, you should be ashamed of your misspelling .
Weakling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQLGhPHzxjc
moonbat betty
January 18th, 2013
12:40 am
Sorry, Oscar, that was rude.
I kid I kid
nite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYlS_kmxES0
ODD OWL
January 18th, 2013
4:11 am
American men have become fat, weak and completely out of shape… They can’t defend themselves in a fight without weapons… The neo-con gun nuts “believe” that they need an AR-15 with a 100 round ammo drum attached to it, so they can defend themselves… The big scary gun has become a phallic symbol for some men who lack confidence in themselves…
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
6:02 am
When your ideology sucks and voters know it, you try to change the rules to narrow the votes to your likening. And think of all the conservatives who accuse Dems of election tampering…
What’s really troubling is that we’re seeing the last bits of what might be thought of as handshake agreements the opposing sides used to have. You never know when the next shoe’s gonna drop. Wed., it was the notion that a President’s kids were off limits for attacks. The past few years, it’s the notion that you don’t just routinely filibuster a nominee because you don’t like the nominee’s boss. and so forth.
and now, it’s the notion that, as sucky as our winner-take-all electoral college is vs. a simple popular vote election, it’s certainly better than making the thing subject to district gerrymandering. But hey, like you said, when you’ve lost the majority and need to cling to power somehow, you start getting desperate.
Who knows what the next shoe to drop will be.
/drive-by
Redcoat
January 18th, 2013
6:10 am
It’s obvious most on this blog have never been in a situation that their life has been threatened. They live in a dream world of being so over confident that they are so much smarter than a potential criminal that would possibly threaten them or their family, that a criminal would be intimidated just because of who they are and wouldn’t dare approach them because of it. Just an impression I’m getting.
Jonmaguire22
January 18th, 2013
6:16 am
Jay, the article has no point nor did yours? What are you trying to convince your audience of?
Also, I’ve never heard of Knox college?
What about a similar study with baseball bats, knives, play swords, breasts, or any other objects besides mousetrap game.
This study or article is just noise, both lack any real thought or conclusion.
Redcoat
January 18th, 2013
6:19 am
decibels…….liberals got desperate and look what has happened..success!…..also liberals never have gone after conservative kids and changed any rules in their favor…….right?
Dekalb's finest...
January 18th, 2013
6:45 am
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/rep-hank-johnson-nra-they-still-cannot-get-over-obama-black
TaxPayer
January 18th, 2013
6:59 am
Jay,
This is a prime example of a post that should not be wasted on a Republican. It contains a hint of science and we all know that Republicans do not do math or science.
Chris Matthews
January 18th, 2013
7:00 am
Guns are for protection from the federal government!
Insider
January 18th, 2013
7:03 am
Our government sells guns to Mexican drug lords but don’t want you to have one!
GTBob
January 18th, 2013
7:07 am
I think Jay got turned on by this article…liberal men get turned on by real men!
Jefferson
January 18th, 2013
7:14 am
Point a weapon at a cop or military and they will shoot you, they can point at you but you will get shot if you point at them
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
7:17 am
liberals got desperate and look what has happened..success!…..also liberals never have gone after conservative kids and changed any rules in their favor…….right?
Note to self–compose a long winded rant about how Internet shorthand has rendered many adult humans into gibbering, poo-flinging man-apes.
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
7:21 am
Have I mentioned that I quite like Hank Johnson, and hope he gets a speaking slot at the 2016 convention, not just to watch the aforementioned man-apes go into full blown shrieking fits (amusing as that can be), but because he’s actually quite erudite and perceptive, and because, to quote Joel Hodgson, “the right people will get it”?
Rightwing troll
January 18th, 2013
7:29 am
What’d I miss? Did Doomy threaten to beat up the blog again?
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
7:31 am
If I went out of my way to be a sample for the study and was handed a toy when the others got guns…
I keep meaning to ask–you guys do know that this was a pellet gun, yes?
(I know, I know, it was a replica of a scarier bang-shootie–I had a friend who owned such a piece many moons ago–but it’s still a pellet gun, and if you were tasked with dissembling it, I think it’d be pretty obvious that this piece wasn’t offering much in the way of stopping power.)
GT
January 18th, 2013
7:36 am
To me this explains a lot. Armstrong was said to be a bully and he soaked this stuff in like it was water and he lived on a desert.
School yard bullies are a problem pushed under the rug in most of America. There should be some attention placed on this area. If a kid makes an F in school that grade follows him for quit a while, yet he and every once in a while she, can be a holly terror in behavior and little if anything is done as long as the grades stay in tack. If they don’t he or she is just kicked out of school to be someone else’s problem.
Now you take that kid and encourage him with the NRA propaganda that life should be lived aggressively. You have two types, one who finds heaven on earth scaring people with his macho behavior and the other a suppressed superiorly intelligent but physically inferior being who ultimately says if you are going to allow this kind of behavior then I am going to play by your rules, or the rules he perceives are getting the green light. The problem is obvious, the solution is there, but no one wants to do the work it will take to clean up the mess, and some do not want it cleaned up.
Travis McGee
January 18th, 2013
7:38 am
I have had an hypothesis for quite some time that those who insist on carrying concealed have small penises and have to have a gun in their pockets to feel something hard. Perhaps the good people at Knox College could engage in some research project to prove or disprove my hypothesis.
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
7:41 am
Did Doomy threaten to beat up the blog again?
I dunno, think I saw something where he was reduced to claiming that his fists were registered as a legal weapon…
Speaking of That Guy, I want to replay something from around the time of the Newtown massacre. I had just stumbled upon the first news coverage that afternoon, and posted this, utterly ignorant of the depth of what had happened, beyond the “shots were fired” reports–I simply saw a picture of some scared children being told to line up and walk to some destination:
First story I clicked on, had a painful picture, but maybe we all ought to force ourselves to look:
And here was Doom’s reply:
Why should we all force ourselves to look at this tragedy? Cause you think its good for us and have deemed it necessary? Or is it because you want to use this tragedy to make some kind of political point- possibly about guns?
This isn’t evidence of the guy being the Worst Person in the World; it’s not even all that offensive. But–the defensiveness is just palpable, isn’t it? We knew nothing about the specifics of the attack, and yet he’s already accused me of exploitation.
by the way, it wasn’t actually a “picture,” so much as a still/thumbnail from a video. Which, for the record, I never actually clicked on, because it was too painful to even look at the fuzzy still of that video. I just had a look at the link, it’s still there, if anyone wants to see what caught my attention, here.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57559229/person-shot-at-conn-elementary-school/
alex
January 18th, 2013
7:47 am
stupid report as ususual, chart is increase in picagrams, what if baseline is 2000 pica, incease of 15 means what, Jay your getting worse, need to chnge to a gardening or bbg op piece, getting pretty bad….
Citizen of the World
January 18th, 2013
7:48 am
Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
TaxPayer
January 18th, 2013
7:50 am
2000 pica.
Someone please dispute my claim that Republicans don’t do math or science.
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
7:51 am
stupid report as ususual [sic]
What part of Make of it what you will. I report; you decide do you not get?
Jay your [sic] getting worse, need to chnge [sic] to a gardening or bbg op piece, getting pretty bad….
Thanks, Joseph Pulitzer.
TaxPayer
January 18th, 2013
7:54 am
I keep meaning to ask–you guys do know that this was a pellet gun, yes?
Clearly it is the size of the gun that peaks the con’s interest–not the load it packs.
TaxPayer
January 18th, 2013
7:55 am
Was the I Report, You Decide a poke at Andy.
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
8:01 am
TP @ 7.54, point taken, but it’s “piques,” not peaks.
Well, probably. I guess one’s interest could peak, but I don’t think that’s you meant in this context.
/nitpicker
Granny Godzilla
January 18th, 2013
8:01 am
Oh please…it ain’t just guns.
Men are soooooo EZ.
Guns, Cars, Trucks, 4 wheelers.Cigars, Breasts, Green Eggs, Bowl Games,
Big Bertha’s, Hardware week at Sears….
We love you and all your little idiosyncrasies.
bookman parrot
January 18th, 2013
8:03 am
must be Friday, Jay is being lazy with this one and the lib follow up is missing everything but the very simplistic nonsense statements. .. come on libs, you can do better than that…
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
8:03 am
Green Eggs
that particular fixation is a tad annoying, I’ll admit.
TaxPayer
January 18th, 2013
8:03 am
sfd,
“peaks” carries it’s own connotations.
GT
January 18th, 2013
8:06 am
Travis McGee I think old men that drive Porches with toupees match up with the small penis theory even better.
I really believe the suppressed nerd eventually mutates into this country’s worse nightmare. I picture Newt one of those knee socked, short pant, lollie pops that now is a womanizing bully freak. This is the heart of the mental illness that diseases the country. Everybody is out for revenge, the so call Christians are the most afflicted in the group. Judgment day is all about the other guy getting his.
Granny Godzilla
January 18th, 2013
8:09 am
Here ya’ go parrot!
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
8:10 am
Was the I Report, You Decide a poke at Andy.
I was going to post “‘We Report, You Decide’ is still a motto in use at Fox News.”
But for laughs I went to their website and did a search for instances of that exact phrase, and found that (at the site, at least) it hasn’t appeared for nearly a year. Which is somewhat interesting. (the obvious wisecrack is to say that they’re not even pretending to “report” any more, but I don’t think they ever really did…)
Citizen of the World
January 18th, 2013
8:12 am
I can’t believe after the horrific Newtown tragedy that there are still those who fall on the “status quo” side of the gun control debate. We can’t just do nothing.
Can you not hold at least a fraction of those parents’ pain in your hearts instead of insisting on your right to hold some macho machine gun in your hand?
Living With Open Eyes
January 18th, 2013
8:17 am
I remember when I was growing up all the young men who could not or would not fight were the first ones to buy guns and then suddenly they became badasses.
TaxPayer
January 18th, 2013
8:18 am
Can you not hold at least a fraction of those parents’ pain in your hearts instead of insisting on your right to hold some macho machine gun in your hand?
You read their comments and decide. I think they make their black hearts quite obvious.
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
8:19 am
“peaks” carries [its] own connotations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breastaurant
Also, this.
JamVet
January 18th, 2013
8:20 am
You should be happy.
If you mean that I should laugh at people’s laughable and sophist delusions, I do.
Speaking of which, poor parrot – needs his daily Jay slapdown.
Hang tough little bird, crushing cons ain’t just for breakfast anymore!
beautiful state, beautiful people....
January 18th, 2013
8:21 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx5qke8XzS4
detritusUSA
January 18th, 2013
8:24 am
I could give a rat’s anus less about this study. From the ages of 19-22 I interacted intimately with a rifle while in the Army and I never felt this testosterone crap this supposed researcher talks about. The crap I felt was usually fear.
Living With Open Eyes
January 18th, 2013
8:26 am
Why does everybody think that there’s an underground store on the street that makes its own guns and sells them to crooks. All the guns came from “law abiding” citizens or businesses at some point and time.
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
8:28 am
If I can get somewhat serious for a moment:
From the ages of 19-22 I interacted intimately with a rifle while in the Army
this dynamic has been covered earlier, but to revisit–obviously, the sort of sober education one receives as part of firearm training is hell and gone from the kind of marketing campaigns deployed by the likes of Bushmaster (and, of course, countless movie/tv depictions of gun usage). That’s the greater point, at least that is my take-away, from this otherwise teeny weeny c. 2006 data point.
Erwin's cat
January 18th, 2013
8:29 am
more gun talk…yawn…back later when there’s something new to talk about >^..^<
Mick
January 18th, 2013
8:30 am
granny
You forgot legs!!!
GT
January 18th, 2013
8:31 am
Level headed people are misunderstood in this country. Even the press has gotten to the point of correcting even tempered individuals as emotionally unattached. What we have is a lot of people taking lessons on how to have a personality. Use your hands more, look the interviewer in the eye, don’t say the N word, be slick. From our art to our social channels there is no originality in this country any more, people are scared to have a sense of humor or show their real selves, someone may disapprove. I even feel Obama slipping away to the pain of fighting the world of superficial is too great, the gains too little, being a robot too easy. We need mentally healthy odd balls; it is what makes this country great. What we are getting is genetically engineered odd balls that fit some human scale far inferior to the one God made.
DownInAlbany
January 18th, 2013
8:31 am
The “evolutionary neuroandrogenic theory” focuses on the hormone testosterone as a factor influencing aggression and criminality and being evolutionary beneficial during certain forms of competition. In most species, males are more aggressive than females. Castration of males usually has a pacifying effect on their aggressive behavior. In humans, males engage in crime and especially violent crime more than females. The involvement in crime usually rises in the early teens to mid teens which happen at the same time as testosterone levels rise. Research on the relationship between testosterone and aggression is difficult since the only reliable measurement of brain testosterone is by a lumbar puncture which is not done for research purposes. Studies therefore have often instead used more unreliable measurements from blood or saliva. Most studies support a link between adult criminality and testosterone although the relationship is modest if examined separately for each sex. Nearly all studies of juvenile delinquency and testosterone are not significant. Most studies have also found testosterone to be associated with behaviors or personality traits linked with criminality such as antisocial behavior and alcoholism. Many studies have also been done on the relationship between more general aggressive behavior/feelings and testosterone. About half the studies have found a relationship and about half no relationship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone
Testosterone Does Not Induce Aggression, Study Shows
Dec. 9, 2009 — New scientific evidence refutes the preconception that testosterone causes aggressive, egocentric, and risky behavior. A study at the Universities of Zurich and Royal Holloway London with more than 120 experimental subjects has shown that the sexual hormone with the poor reputation can encourage fair behaviors if this serves to ensure one’s own status.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091208132241.htm
Folks usually get blasted on here for citing a single case study. I guess it’s ok when it supports your perspective?
Granny Godzilla
January 18th, 2013
8:31 am
Mick
Womens, Chickens or Lambs?
In the middle
January 18th, 2013
8:33 am
Once again there is a complete absence of critical thinking. It is assumed at the outset that testosterone is bad. Is that fact? It also doesn’t include any context to the activity. Were the subjects competing? Competing and establishing dominance also increases testosterone, What toys were they playing with? Was it the activity that increased the testosterone or the object.
How do you tell a liberal, They are the ones that leap to an emotional response based on a superficial analysis of incomplete data.
skipper
January 18th, 2013
8:33 am
New experimet results:
The more hot coals you dump in somebody’s pants, the hotter their a$$ gets………
Thulsa Doom
January 18th, 2013
8:34 am
“I dunno, think I saw something where he was reduced to claiming that his fists were registered as a legal weapon…”
Stands for decibels,
Well if you’re going to lie then lie big. Its right up there at the beginning ma’am. I never said that. Moonbat Betty did. Pay attention sport.
As for the Newtown tragedy I think it sucks and is a terrible tragedy just like everyone else does. The difference is that I can still look at the situation objectively and rationally and not let my emotions get in the way of critical thinking skills about what if anything can be done. Liberals seem to lack that ability. And btw tragedies happen all the time and they happen to children. One sensationalized tragedy doesn’t require that we throw all reason and rationale out the window concerning the gun debate. Everyday kids get snatched, raped, murdered, abused, etc. somewhere in the U.S. and in the world in general. There is constantly evil and tragedy in the world.
I can’t figure out if liberals in general are just too stupid to realize this or if they do realize this and in a sick manner have no problem with taking isolated tragedies involving children and using them for political purposes. Which is it ma’am?
skipper
January 18th, 2013
8:34 am
thats “experiment”…not enough coffee yet!
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
8:37 am
And for MY pet “holy crap, get a load a’ *that* subtle approach, mrs. sfd!” point-at-the-TeeVee moment…
I think one could do a doctoral dissertation on the depiction of driveshafts in truck ads, alone.
To say nothing of the guys they get to do those voice-overs. “That was great, Danny, but we need it just a little deeper, and a little more Western…”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 18th, 2013
8:38 am
Wow, compared to viagra which costs $8 for wood, these guns are not a good value…
Doggone/GA
January 18th, 2013
8:41 am
“these guns are not a good value…”
Oh, I don’t know. You don’t need a prescription and you only have to buy the gun once
Thulsa Doom
January 18th, 2013
8:44 am
“What’d I miss? Did Doomy threaten to beat up the blog again?”- Rightwing troll
Well it seems like some of the libs are up to their usual lies. I never threatened to beat up the blog. What happened was Soothsayer said was that we should stage a cage match with me and another con against keep up and kam. I played along and said I’m game for that. And that I wouldn’t need headgear or a partner- which I wouldn’t. If you have a problem with that you should take it up with the person who suggested all that- sooth.
Furthermore if you have a problem with people making threats then perhaps you should take it up with Adam. The young man lost his cool one night and in a threatening manner demanded my address with the suggestion that he was going to come up here and do something. I let him off the hook though. Young men full of bravado make all kinds of mistakes and asking for a physical confrontation with the Doom is about as big a mistake as he could make. Its all cool though. Doomy aint out to hurt the boy. Or a little girl like you for that matter.
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
8:44 am
Well if you’re going to lie then lie big. Its right up there at the beginning ma’am. I never said that. Moonbat Betty did. Pay attention sport.
That link is a direct quote of yours. It’s right next to your handle. Moonbat Betty has one comment in that entire thread, and none of that paragraph I’d quoted is in it.
I don’t take kindly to being called a liar, by the way. I’ve been pretty tolerant of you because you’re a) not a racist and b) not stupid. But that tolerance is subject to change if you’re going to be deliberately dishonest.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 18th, 2013
8:44 am
Stands, are you crying and just wholly lost? I mean someone called you “ma’am”. Just devastating to be the object of that childishness.
How will you survive the day?
GT
January 18th, 2013
8:48 am
“In the middle” the assumptions in this blog are 180 degrees different than the mass’s assumption that aggressive behavior is model behavior. Heroes seldom are academic; they are Rambo or John Wayne. The movie always has one Duke and the rest of the world is shorter, by casting, dumber, which really dumbs down the cast, clear right and wrong themes. In the real world there are many, many people who think they are the Duke, and the gun makes up for the shortness. If Wayne has acted in this world like he acted in the movies one of them would have just walked up behind him and popped his with a bullet, end of subject. Aggressive behavior is a short term solution, it takes character to come up with the real solution which this country is a little short on lately.
TaxPayer
January 18th, 2013
8:49 am
sfd,
A gun show at Hooters would apparently be Utopia for our resident cons although I suspect the mere sight of the guns would tend to leave them with more of a lack of blood flow to the upper extremity.
Granny Godzilla
January 18th, 2013
8:50 am
GT
Aggressive behavior is a short term solution, it takes character to come up with the real solution which this country is a little short on lately.
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Very well said.
Thulsa Doom
January 18th, 2013
8:51 am
Citizen of the World
January 18th, 2013
8:12 am
I can’t believe after the horrific Newtown tragedy that there are still those who fall on the “status quo” side of the gun control debate. We can’t just do nothing.
So what law would have prevented the young man from taking his mother’s legally owned guns and shooting her and going on a rampage? And since I didn’t get an answer from any of the libs the other day on the proposed new gun law I’ll ask it again and see if any of them can answer it. If the new proposed law were in effect before Newtown please explain to me how that law would have prevented the Newtown massacre? Any lib care to take a stab at that one??? Buehler???
scotchbonnet
January 18th, 2013
8:52 am
So few people smoke nowadays – it’s now the Bureau of Alcohol, Tabasco and Firearms.
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
8:52 am
I guess it’s ok when it supports your perspective?
DownIn, while I generally agree with your premise that testosterone oftimes gets a bad rap in common discourse, I think you’re missing the point of Jay’s post, which was basically a “new afternoon thread, mix it up, lads.”
Which is his prerogative, and given the stale alternative on these pages (cough Kyle cough), I think it’s a reasonable one.
Thulsa Doom
January 18th, 2013
8:53 am
“In the real world there are many, many people who think they are the Duke, and the gun makes up for the shortness”
And the liberal pop psychologists come out of the woodwork en masse.
Elections Have Consequences
January 18th, 2013
8:53 am
The President’s job council hasn’t met in a year-and we’ve got another column on guns?? One would think the priorities for the country would be a bit clearer at this point. Guess not.
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
8:55 am
Stands, are you crying and just wholly lost? I mean someone called you “ma’am”
Given that I’ve long been presumed to be black, gay, female, communist…
Thulsa Doom
January 18th, 2013
8:55 am
kreep he cracked corn and I don’t care…
kreep he cracked corn and I don’t care…
itpdude
January 18th, 2013
8:56 am
The first time I went to a range and bought my first, all my own, firearm, the inner-jolt was incredible. The adrenaline really got pumping for some reason. But the feeling subsided and anymore, handing a firearm is not that big a deal. I suspect the fellows tested had not handled real firearms before, or if so, rarely.
Do this same test on, say, policemen. I suspect it would give a different result.
Granny Godzilla
January 18th, 2013
8:56 am
Thulsa
You are asking questions that really can’t be answered.
That however must not prevent us from trying.
and trying
and trying
Nobama
January 18th, 2013
8:57 am
Anybody dont carry a bigass gun is a wussy
Thulsa Doom
January 18th, 2013
8:57 am
“Given that I’ve long been presumed to be black, gay, female, communist…”
Shoulda added foolish to the end of that. Would made a presumption quite true indeed.
Donovan
January 18th, 2013
8:57 am
Think I will weigh in. This nugget of information from the elite ranks of academia that your liberal mentor found is absolutely asinine.
The mere fact that you gun control lunatics are discussing its merits speaks volumes about the capacity of your rationality.
Looks to me that you emotional whips need to confiscate hot sauce also.
How do you talk to a liberal? YOU CAN’T!
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
8:59 am
Shoulda added foolish to the end of that.
Thulsa, you going to own up to what you posted or not?
alex
January 18th, 2013
9:00 am
Oh “taxpayer” please inform the ignorant in this blog what pg stands for oh math wizard, the implication still stands and refute that oh graduate of esteemed KNOX college, sheesh, an academic imbecile, Please inform us of the “science ” of the chart in the blog, ……relative reduction, absolute, throw in the accuracy of saliva testosterone concentrations, don’t forget the P value….repub or Dem you’re full of it and it isn’t testosterone (free or total)
Thulsa Doom
January 18th, 2013
9:01 am
Granny Godzilla,
I’ve no problem with doing whatever we reasonably can do to prevent another Newtown. To date though I’ve seen no credible solutions from the liberals. I have seen just a bunch of heated rhetoric about guns. And I still don’t see how the new law being proposed would have stopped the Newtown massacre. So I ask again. What good is the new law if it wouldn’t have done anything to prevent the very massacre that brought about the law?
Dharma Bum
January 18th, 2013
9:04 am
Correlation does not prove causation
TaxPayer
January 18th, 2013
9:06 am
Poor alex and his pico-length, errr, umm, sense of humor. Nano, nano.
curious
January 18th, 2013
9:07 am
Fox News:
“We report, you decide”
They reported, I decided
Changed channels.
Thulsa Doom
January 18th, 2013
9:08 am
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
8:59 am
Shoulda added foolish to the end of that.
Thulsa, you going to own up to what you posted or not?
stands for decibels,
What is there to own up to? I said what I said and when taken in the proper context of everything else that was said my only point is that a lot of emotionalized rhetoric isn’t going to change what happened. And nor is it going to prevent any new massacres done by madmen. If you can’t understand that then I simply cannot help you.
BTW are you going to be a man and admit that you lied with your statement above about me below. You’re sitting here with a straight face saying that you didn’t lie. And yet here it is in black and white with you stating for everyone to see that I claimed that my fists were registered as lethal weapons. I never claimed that as your lying ass damn well knows. Moonbat Betty said that. You are a LIAR and your own freaking post proves it.
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
7:41 am
Did Doomy threaten to beat up the blog again?
I dunno, think I saw something where he was reduced to claiming that his fists were registered as a legal weapon
DownInAlbany
January 18th, 2013
9:08 am
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
8:52 am
Jay’s blog, Jay chooses the topics. I try to mix it up, too! My point is, for every study that supports increased testos levels = increased aggressiveness, there is one that refutes the notion. Some studies say that using saliva to test for testos are not accurate. I’m not supporting my links nor refuting Jay’s.
curious
January 18th, 2013
9:09 am
Unfortunately, there really isn’t much anyone can do to prevent another Newtown.
All we can do is minimize the odds it will happen again.
DownInAlbany
January 18th, 2013
9:10 am
Elections Have Consequences
January 18th, 2013
8:53 am
The President’s job council hasn’t met in a year-and we’ve got another column on guns?? One would think the priorities for the country would be a bit clearer at this point. Guess not.
I saw that too. I refrained from linking it. It’s Friday and I don’t feel like being attacked.
barking frog
January 18th, 2013
9:16 am
How could Newtown have been prevented ?
Deny the shooter access to the victims.
This could have been done by:
1.
barking frog
January 18th, 2013
9:16 am
How could Newtown have been prevented ?
Deny the shooter access to the victims.
This could have been done by:
1.
barking frog
January 18th, 2013
9:18 am
Either wordpress or the ajc have once again boinked the blog.
GT
January 18th, 2013
9:21 am
Thulsa Doom what do you think is different from the south and the rest of the country? We got a lot of mucho down here, like the banditos in Mexico, and both places are in fact economically depressed. Nothing to do with pop psychology, there is a reality.
Have you ever noticed the deeper south you get the poorer the educational institutions. Virginia has UVA and W&L, North Carolina has Duke and UNC, South Carolina has Furman and as we drip further south we get dryer and dryer on schools. Atlanta does have Emory, but check out the student body, mostly northern kids that couldn’t get into a good school up there so they came down here where the competition is easier.
But Thulsa we have football! Can’t buy a poor kid a good lunch but we spend billions on something that I couldn’t even tell you who won the championship five years later. You ever follow up on these football heroes? Then follow up on someone who has had a good education which doesn’t exist down south. Which one you think last longer the football or the education? Makes you wonder where our priorities are doesn’t it. No pop in any of this just sad truth.
Granny Godzilla
January 18th, 2013
9:27 am
Thulsa
I know you are smarter than that.
What good will it do?
It might save 1 life. Maybe more.
Neither of us knows, but apparently only one of us has the character to be willing to try.
godless heathen
January 18th, 2013
9:28 am
The real shocking news of the day is that a foot-long Subway sammich, may not actually be 12″ long. Did they have a woman estimate the foot-long length or what?
Thulsa Doom
January 18th, 2013
9:31 am
“We got a lot of mucho down here, like the banditos in Mexico”
Is that something that can be empirically measured? Or is that just your unsubstantiated opinion?
“Can’t buy a poor kid a good lunch…
Your empty rhetoric is getting stale. We have food stamp programs of which 47 million people benefit. And on top of that if a kid is poor we have free breakfast and free lunch programs at school. Try again.
Thulsa Doom
January 18th, 2013
9:33 am
Granny Godzilla,
Its a pretty straightforward question. If the proposed law before us now were in effect before the Newtown massacre how would this law have prevented the massacre? Or even the severity of it?
Thulsa Doom
January 18th, 2013
9:39 am
Barking frog,
Now you’re talking. But how would the law have denied the shooter access to the victims?
Thulsa Doom
January 18th, 2013
9:41 am
Granny Godzilla,
It has nothing to do with character. And btw trying to suggest that you have character and I don’t because you are willing to pass any law regardless of whether it works or not only diminishes your character. Why? Because you used a disagreement as a basis to take a shot at my character. Not cool.
moonbat betty
January 18th, 2013
9:48 am
Yes, I posted that Doom’s fists should be considered “deadly weapons”.
I apologize for posting that, Doom.
I didn’t know the libs were going to go all postal on you for it.
IT WAS A JOKE, people!
Anyone have a problem with it, take it up with me, not Doom.
Man, it’s funny to rub these cats the wrong way
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
9:51 am
Well if you’re going to lie then lie big.
oh my god–I just realized, you are actually complaining about this, that I’d posted earlier?
I dunno, think I saw something where he was reduced to claiming that his fists were registered as a legal weapon…
That rises to the level of “lie?” a big one?
If you’re actually on the level with this–you’ve hereby surrendered the right to ANY future accusations of humorlessness among others.
If you could actually take something seriously that begins with “I dunno,” and is so off-handed that I didn’t bother to fix an obvious typo, you are way too full of yourself.
Way way way double-plus way too full.
/headin’ upstairs.
moonbat betty
January 18th, 2013
9:54 am
GT,
Arrogant much?
Look at the population of the Northeast vs. states in the Southeast.
Where are the Ivy league schools in Minnesota, the Dakotas, Montana, Idaho, etc, etc, etc.?
geez…
moonbat betty
January 18th, 2013
9:58 am
sfd, they would be registered as “Lethal” weapons, not “Legal” weapons if he were to register them
stands for decibels
January 18th, 2013
10:04 am
“Lethal” weapons, not “Legal” weapons
MB, that was the “obvious typo” I referred to @ 9.51, actually.
And when it comes to weaponry (real, imagined, software or hardware) claims on these threads, I assume everything is open to parody/ridicule.
moonbat betty
January 18th, 2013
10:12 am
lol, yes it is, sfd.
Onward!
or is it Forward!?
That Black Guy
January 18th, 2013
2:00 pm
Travis McGee
January 18th, 2013
7:38 am
I have had an hypothesis for quite some time that those who insist on carrying concealed have small penises and have to have a gun in their pockets to feel something hard. Perhaps the good people at Knox College could engage in some research project to prove or disprove my hypothesis.
_____________________________
2 things:
1) If someone is carrying a concealed weapon, chances are it’s in a holster, NOT their pocket.
2) Why have you spent so much time thinking about other men’s pen!s size (personal issues you need to confront?)
Josiah
January 23rd, 2013
4:00 pm
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