Guns, hot sauce and testosterone a spicy mix
In 2006, researchers at Knox College in Illinois performed a study on college men ages 18 to 22. Here’s how the study abstract reads:
“We tested whether interacting with a gun increased testosterone levels and later aggressive behavior. Thirty male college students provided a saliva sample (for testosterone assay), interacted with either a gun or a children’s toy for 15 min, and then provided another saliva sample. Next, subjects added as much hot sauce as they wanted to a cup of water they believed another subject would have to drink. Males who interacted with the gun showed significantly greater increases in testosterone and added more hot sauce to the water than did those who interacted with the children’s toy.”
The men were told that they were being studied to determine whether paying close attention to a task altered their later sensitivity to taste. They were tested for initial testosterone levels, and half were then asked to dismantle and reassemble the old “Mousetrap” game, writing a set of instructions on how to do so.
Desert Eagle handgun
The other half were asked to do the same with a pellet pistol, an exact replica in size and weight of a Desert Eagle handgun. Finally, after being tested again for testosterone, they were given a glass of water and bottle of hot sauce and asked to prepare a “sample” for the next study subject.
According to a description of the study at WebMD:
This hot-sauce trick has been used before. The more aggressive a man is feeling, the more hot sauce he tends to put in the next guy’s drink.
Sure enough, testosterone went up about 100 times more in the men who handled the gun than in the men who handled the children’s toy. And the gun handlers put three times more hot sauce in the water — on average, about a half ounce — than the toy handlers.
The more a man’s testosterone went up after gun handling, the more hot sauce he put in the water.
And since a story like this just wouldn’t be the same without a chart:
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Jay
January 17th, 2013
9:18 pm
“Jay, The NRA does not manufacture or sell guns.”
No, they don’t. They merely panic the crowd into buying guns from those who DO manufacture and sell guns. That is their function, and they do it very well.
Liberal Pariah
January 17th, 2013
9:18 pm
You do realize the Hollywood Lobby spends ten times what the NRA does in Washington to continue their societally destructive agenda don’t you? Where’s the outrage, the poutrage? So what’s your point Jay? That a lobby looks out for it’s own interests. No news here, move on.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:19 pm
USC: Stereotype much?
Jay
January 17th, 2013
9:20 pm
With hunting in decline, the industry needed to create a new market for its goods, and through the NRA it has found a vehicle for doing so.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:20 pm
If that wasn’t President Obama talking about an assault weapon (sic) ban the other night on the TV, was it just the imagination of “gun nuts”?
Obama can talk until he turns pasty White, and that still doesn’t make a ban happen. Congress has to legislate and pass a ban. As I said, if they can’t do a simple disaster bill, what makes you think they’re going to pass a weapons ban?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:23 pm
They merely panic the crowd into buying guns from those who DO manufacture and sell guns.
They don’t need to panic the crowd. The Demo pols and the uninformed lazy media types do a fine job of it.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:25 pm
Jay 9:13
What the NRA does is no different than wht the AARP does, sadly
It’s mind boggling that they get to make money promoting expanded Medicare products
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:25 pm
Obama can talk until he turns pasty White, and that still doesn’t make a ban happen. Congress has to legislate and pass a ban. As I said, if they can’t do a simple disaster bill, what makes you think they’re going to pass a weapons ban?
I don’t, but you don’t see me standing in line at the gun store to buy an assault rifle(sic), either.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:26 pm
At least the NRA doesn’t make money from government handouts like AARP does
Keith
January 17th, 2013
9:28 pm
No, they don’t. They merely panic the crowd into buying guns from those who DO manufacture and sell guns. That is their function, and they do it very well.
WRONG AGAIN Jay. You are on a roll. Its people like baaaaarack and his sheeple like you and feinsten that create the hysteria that sells guns and ammo. when you use the graves of children for a stage to spout of your maniacal ideas about banning guns, registering guns, anything you think will fly people believe you are serious. So you get preempted. They are getting them now just in case baaaarack and his sheeeple can convince just enough people to get your crazy ideas passed into law.
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
9:30 pm
Jay, should run an expose on the AARP but no one should hold their breath. The NRA is among the finest protectors of traditional conservative values. The ALCU is among the the worst detractors of traditional conservative values. Traditional conservative values in this country will ultimately rule make no mistake about it.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:30 pm
“I said, if they can’t do a simple disaster bill, what makes you think they’re going to pass a weapons ban?”
Catch up
It’s already been passed by the house
F. Sinkwich
January 17th, 2013
9:30 pm
“New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie slammed the National Rifle Association’s latest ad in which they accuse President Barack Obama of hypocrisy for sending his children to a school where they are protected by armed guards. Christie called the ad “reprehensible” and said that the NRA should not be “dragging people’s children” into the gun control debate.”
Yankees. Who needs ‘em?
Not me…
Keith
January 17th, 2013
9:31 pm
At least the NRA doesnt look forward to tragic events like school masaacres and utilize them to maximum political effect. And its pretty pathetic that you feel absolutely no shame is trying to benefit from these events.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:31 pm
I don’t, but you don’t see me standing in line at the gun store to buy an assault rifle(sic), either.
I never made a claim that you were. Even if you were, I honestly wouldn’t give a rat’s ass as that’s your perrogative to spend your money on whatever you wanna spend it on. That doesn’t change the fact that the NRA and other far right groups were stoking fears about Obama trying to take guns or ban guns since 2008. That story started long before any of the recent mass shootings.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:31 pm
With hunting in decline, the industry needed to create a new market for its goods, and through the NRA it has found a vehicle for doing so.
The NRA has always been more involved in the shooting sports than in hunting. They, in conjunction with the US Army, sponsored the National Matches back in the day.
Did they get political? Yes, which is why I am no longer a member. There are other organizations which I think better represent my interests. I only defend them to the point of trying to keep facts separated from fiction.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:32 pm
Sink
I agree
Christie has worn thing enough to be discarded
td
January 17th, 2013
9:33 pm
Dam Jay,
It appears from your post that attempting to besmirch the good name of the NRA is raising your testosterone levels. I guess Ms. Bookman is going to be in for a long night tonight.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
9:34 pm
Illinois vs. Vermont?
Come on libs. ……………… you can do better than that !!
TaxPayer
January 17th, 2013
9:34 pm
Obama panics the cons and strikes fear into their widdle heads and makes them run out and stock up on guns. Er, excuse me, makes them get their wives to run out and stock up on guns for them while they cower in fear under the covers. You cons gotta quit this stuff. I can’t stop laughing at you.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:35 pm
Recon
It’s sick to me that AARP gets to make money off a social benefit, while lobbying for its expansion
He’ll most people don’t even know AARP gets to make money when they buy supplemental Medicare
It’s sick
It’s worse than military contractor lobbying
td
January 17th, 2013
9:35 pm
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:31 pm
Saying that the NRA is a far right group is total BS. They are a group that supports people from either party that has the same beliefs as they do.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:36 pm
Catch up
It’s already been passed by the house
Geez, it’s only about 10 days until hurricane season starts again. As I said, they can’t even do simple disaster bills, so how are they going to do gun legislation?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:36 pm
That doesn’t change the fact that the NRA and other far right groups were stoking fears about Obama trying to take guns or ban guns since 2008. That story started long before any of the recent mass shootings.
Clinton et al actually banned some guns. I wonder where people ever got the idea that pols were trying to ban some guns.
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
9:36 pm
Taxpayer,
If you were really a taxpayer, you would be outraged.
TaxPayer
January 17th, 2013
9:36 pm
At least the NRA doesnt look forward to tragic events like school masaacres and utilize them to maximum political effect.
I’ll pull a Kam and say, “LaPierre say what?”
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:37 pm
The system is rotten to the core
The only cure is a drastically smaller government
Then lobbying becomes less profitable and the rest of us get to live in peace
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:38 pm
I sold those to cons and made a killing
TaxPayer
January 17th, 2013
9:38 pm
I am outraged at the notion that you cons would even dream of shirking your responsibility to act responsibly by taxing yourselves in order to pay for all those armed security guards you want in all the schools to protect your own children from yourselves. Losers.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:39 pm
Sure did look like the President that was on TV the other night saying we should re-institute an assault rifle(sic) ban. But I guess it was an NRA spokesman in disguise.
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
9:39 pm
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie slammed the National Rifle Association’s latest ad…
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
You do realize the Hollywood Lobby spends ten times what the NRA does in Washington…
You do realize that pulling stuff out of your ample backside is a sure fired way to have lots and lots of informed and intelligent people laugh at you, right Pariah?
i.e. your made up claim is absurd….
http://www.timewarner.com/newsroom/press-releases/1999/11/FORTUNE_Releases_Annual_Survey_Most_Powerful_Lobbying_11-15-1999.php
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
9:41 pm
Jm,
Yep, an unlicensed unregulated insurance provider that’s politically connected and ostensibly pretending to be an advocate for retired people. What a scam.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:42 pm
godless,
He said he would try.
It will fail.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:42 pm
Saying that the NRA is a far right group is total BS.
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/fact-sheets/2013/tenreasons.aspx
Introduction: In the late 1980s, gun control groups realized that they had failed in their original goal—getting handguns banned1—and began campaigning against semi-automatic firearms they called “assault weapons,” most of which are rifles. As an anti-gun activist group put it:
[A]ssault weapons [will] strengthen the handgun restriction lobby for the following reasons: It will be a new topic in what has become to the press and public an “old” debate. . . . [H]andgun restriction consistently remains a non-issue with the vast majority of legislators, the press, and public. . . . Efforts to restrict assault weapons are more likely to succeed than those to restrict handguns. . . . Although the opportunity to restrict assault weapons exists, a question remains for the handgun restriction movement: How?”2
Gun control supporters demanding a ban on “assault weapons” have also demanded a ban on ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, most of which are designed for self-defense handguns. These gun and magazine bans should be rejected because:
Yep, that sounds like some liberal mumbo jumbo there.
td
The fact that you are a member of the NRA is more than enough of a fact to know that it’s a far right group. You’re so damned afraid of anything appearing left that I bet you walk around with two right shoes on. The only BS is the crap you’re trying to peddle.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:42 pm
I am outraged at the notion that you cons would even dream of shirking your responsibility to act responsibly by taxing yourselves in order to pay for all those armed security guards you want in all the schools to protect your own children from yourselves. Losers.
I would much rather my tax money went to prop up failing alternative energy companies that contributed heavily to the President’s campaign. Yes siree.
Dixie Normous
January 17th, 2013
9:42 pm
Bookman is a few sandwiches short of a lunch basket.
Oscar
January 17th, 2013
9:42 pm
The cons post that liberals don’t want or own guns, and then they also post that all people who commit crimes with guns are liberals.
Strange logic.
Jay
January 17th, 2013
9:43 pm
Oh, the NRA would NEVER try to take advantage of a crisis!
And of course it would NEVER use it to panic people into a gun-buying spree on behalf of its corporate sponsors…..
“WASHINGTON — The National Rifle Association stepped up its anti-Obama rhetoric on Thursday, declaring in a fundraising email that President Barack Obama had allegedly “pledged to raise $20 million to ram his gun ban agenda through Congress.”
The claim was part of a fiery appeal by NRA chief lobbyist Chris Cox sent to the group’s approximately 4 million members. Cox wrote that Obama and “anti-gun politicians are on an all-out crusade” to “ban your guns and abolish every last sacred right you have under the Second Amendment … until they reduce your freedom to ashes.”
According to Cox, Obama’s “rich, gun-hating friends in Hollywood, along with anti-gun billionaire Michael Bloomberg, will shower him with the money he needs to strip you of your gun rights.”
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:45 pm
He said he would try.
It will fail.
Yup. Too many Dem Senators up for re-election in red states. And it will put a sh*t load of assault rifles(sic) on the street.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:45 pm
Gun companies invested in the nra to lobby to buy more guns was a very profitable investment.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:45 pm
godless
The ban that Clinton signed started because of a shooting at a Stockton, California elementary school in 1989. How much time passed between the actual incident and the bill getting signed into law? How much did the final legislation look like the original version? That “ban” was so watered down and filled with loopholes that it didn’t amount to much of a ban at all.
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
9:45 pm
Chis Christie is a bloviating Northeastern left-winger. This pipe dream that he’s a true conservative was/is an urban myth. What a joke that fat body is to the conservative cause.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:46 pm
“You’re so damned afraid of anything appearing left that I bet you walk around with two right shoes on”
Corns be damned………………… All ‘right’
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:46 pm
godless,
I doubt it would pass a filibuster so they will not even try.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:48 pm
The best part was the nra blamed violent video games then made one.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:49 pm
TBS
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:49 pm
“Yup. Too many Dem Senators up for re-election in red states. And it will put a sh*t load of assault rifles(sic) on the street.”
And those facts alone should tell anyone that this current purchasing frenzy, especially if it is not a weapon on the old “assault ban” list, is as much paronoia as anything.
td
January 17th, 2013
9:49 pm
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:42 pm
Money talks volumes. This is just members in the US Congress. Do you want to look at contributions to Dems in states?
Matheson, Jim (D-UT) House $6,950
Dingell, John D (D-MI) House $5,000
Ross, Mike (D-AR) House $5,000
Barrow, John (D-GA) House $4,950
Holden, Tim (D-PA) House $4,950
Shuler, Heath (D-NC) House $4,950
Chandler, Ben (D-KY) House $4,000
Bishop, Sanford D Jr (D-GA) House $3,650
Critz, Mark (D-PA) House $3,500
Hochul, Kathleen (D-NY) House $3,000
Kissell, Larry (D-NC) House $3,000
Michaud, Mike (D-ME) House $3,000
Ryan, Tim (D-OH) House $3,000
Schrader, Kurt (D-OR) House $3,000
Altmire, Jason (D-PA) House $2,500
Baca, Joe (D-CA) House $2,500
Cardoza, Dennis (D-CA) House $2,500
Peterson, Collin C (D-MN) House $2,500
Cuellar, Henry (D-TX) House $2,000
Kind, Ron (D-WI) House $2,000
McIntyre, Mike (D-NC) House $2,000
Rahall, Nick (D-WV) House $2,000
Walz, Timothy J (D-MN) House $2,000
Higgins, Brian M (D-NY) House $1,000
Lujan, Ben R (D-NM) House $1,000
Owens, Bill (D-NY) House $1,000
Manchin, Joe (D-WV) Senate $4,500
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000082&chamber=H&party=D&cycle=2012&state=&sort=A
F. Sinkwich
January 17th, 2013
9:51 pm
“Clinton et al actually banned some guns. I wonder where people ever got the idea that pols were trying to ban some guns.”
I bought my first handgun just after Slick Willie started his war on guns. I was in the market for one at the time but his actions accelerated my purchase.
It’s common knowledge, of course, that Dems are gun grabbers. If they had their way, the whole country would have the same draconian guns as Chicago, DC, California, NY, and other lib ilk cesspools.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:52 pm
235 mpg
God bless the Germans
An it doesn’t even use a battery
“The Volkswagen XL1 is marching ever closer to production. Spy photographers recently spotted the diesel hybrid prancing through the snow during a little winter testing, giving us our first look at the vehicle’s daytime running lights, as well as the LED taillamps. The ultra-efficient two-door is said to be capable of returning up to 235 miles per gallon thanks to its two-cylinder diesel engine, 27-horsepower electric motor and seven-speed dual-clutch transmission. We don’t expect the car to be quick off the line, but it’s hard to argue with triple-digit fuel economy numbers.”
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:52 pm
td
yes the NRA gives much money to elected officials in both parties………….. Not many organizations that large do not cover their bases?
Did you see their election investment return from November?
Since the assault weapon ban is going nowhere, they can at least get more bang for their buck on this issue
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:53 pm
The irony is that few people would gives a rat’s ass about owning an assault rifle(sic) until a few high profile incidents and the gun grabbers’ reaction brought them to the forefront in the 80s. The threat of a ban, and the ban created and fueled a market. Now there are millions out there and they are flying off the shelves faster than they can be restocked by the manufacturers. Now millions more assault rifles (sic) will be on the streets as a result of the recent ban threat. Some will fall into the wrong hands and people will die.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:53 pm
td,
You forgot to mention your party got more:
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000082
USA Patriot
January 17th, 2013
9:54 pm
“Gun companies invested in the nra to lobby to buy more guns was a very profitable investment.”
America, what a country!
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:54 pm
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/other-races/266983-report-nra-bats-almost-zero-in-elections
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
9:54 pm
True conservatism?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
You counterfeit versions killed it.
Dead.
Witness Mitt Romney.
There is nothing conservative about your corporate-backed frauds in the NRA.
True conservatives would puke at the sight of you neocons…
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:55 pm
Did you cons think the gridlock stopped ?
AlterEgo
January 17th, 2013
9:56 pm
“Oh, the NRA would NEVER try to take advantage of a crisis!”
Perhaps the got that advice from now-Mayor and then-WH Chief of Staff Emanuel.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:56 pm
Jammie
What’s funny is the current neocon prez is still using tons of surveillance to monitor you and your nutso pals
RB from Gwinnett
January 17th, 2013
9:56 pm
Here’s a great idea!!! Lets spew hate all over gun owners and then pretend we don’t understand why they don’t want to “come together” with us. It’s the liberal way!!!
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:57 pm
Everyone have a great night and an even better tomorrow…………….
Peace
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
9:57 pm
The dumb butts, Biden and Obama or fat mouth and little man are scurrying around like rats looking for cheese among democraps in the senate trying to gin up votes for their gun confiscation agenda. The country faces a far greater threat to our very survival with the national debt crises, while these two losers pretend to be national leaders.
td
January 17th, 2013
9:58 pm
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:53 pm
td,
You forgot to mention your party got more
I thought that was pretty much a given since they support like minded politicians and most is not all Republicans would never get elected with out their support of the 2nd Amendment.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
9:58 pm
“They cling to their guns and religion”
Thomas J
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:59 pm
Money talks volumes. This is just members in the US Congress. Do you want to look at contributions to Dems in states?
What does that list supposed to prove? I’ll donate money to a candidate for the first time ever if you walk up to Joe Manchin and call him a Liberal. I’ll double it if you do it with the “liberal” as the sneer that you far righties use it as. Just because they donate to Liberals don’t excuse them from their far rightedness.
In case you haven’t noticed, ALL major money players donate to both sides. What far left liberals does the NRA support? How much have they donated to Nancy Pelosi? Barney Frank? You’re digging your own hole by trying to prove something that you can’t prove. I thought you far righties were proud of your “principles” and such. Why are you trying to disavow the very group you belong to and pay dues to support your principles?
USA Patriot
January 17th, 2013
9:59 pm
“You forgot to mention your party got more” – Yep, that happens when the majority wins.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:00 pm
del,
Any word on how they will “fix” the gop yet?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
10:01 pm
Jay, If you want to see examples of over the top rhetoric to counter your NRA quotes, I recommend bradycampaign.org.
Or how about the moveon.org ad that was posted here the other day that suggested a .22 rimfire was a hunting round while the .233 (sic) was a child killing round.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
10:01 pm
Good job Ford (not Government Motors)
“The Ford Fusion Energi, the automaker’s second production plug-in hybrid after the Ford C-Max Energi, officially boasts a range of 620 miles between fuel stops when calculated with EPA-rated figures (108 miles per gallon equivalent in the city, 92 MPGe highway and 100 MPGe combined). Of that distance, the sedan is capable of running 21 miles in electric-only mode.
To eliminate confusion for those who are numerically challenged, Ford’s press release defines the range in more real-world terms, mentioning that its “Fusion Energi can travel from Boston to Virginia Beach on one tank of gas and one full charge or traverse the West Coast’s scenic Highway 101 from Sacramento to San Diego.” That’s impressive, especially since we don’t know of many passengers who can handle ten hours in the seat without a pit stop.”
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
10:01 pm
Just because they donate to
LiberalsDemocrats…Jeez… I’m beginning to talk like y’all far righties. Gonna have to clorox my brain.
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
10:01 pm
What’s funny is the current neocon prez was called the most liberal man in the history of mankind by you intellectual weaklings.
You are so damn willfully stupid that you don’t what a conservative is.
Little wonder considering that you have your own idiotic, alternative English…
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:04 pm
USA,
The majority wanted action and they got it.
They will get better background checks.
That is what you cons are freaking out over.
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
10:07 pm
Jeez… I’m beginning to talk like y’all far righties. Gonna have to clorox my brain.
LOL, Bro!
One of the right wingers last night was trying to convince himself that both major parties had moved LEFT in the past forty years.
I ____ you not.
I put that one right up there with Christianity is not a religion, the USA is not a democracy and the planet’s rising temperatures are a liberal hoax…
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:07 pm
jm,
You can thank our President for the change in gas mileage.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
10:08 pm
Any word on how they will “fix” the gop yet?
I’m no doctor but I understand that with therapy and drugs perseveration can be treated.
USA Patriot
January 17th, 2013
10:08 pm
“That is what you cons are freaking out over.” – OMG, the fed’s are going to “get better background checks”? USPS – Fail! Medicaid – Fail! Food stamps – Fail! Stimulus monies – Fail! Want to keep going? HA! HA! HA!
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:10 pm
Yeah, keep going with those lies USA.
You are divided and conquered.
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
10:13 pm
USA Faketriot, why do you hate this country so much?
Did something bad happen to you as a child?
td
January 17th, 2013
10:13 pm
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:59 pm
Why in the h3ll would a group donate to anyone that does not believe in their cause? The far left loonies have an agenda to get rid of all citizens having guns, look at Chicago and NY for examples of the overall plans. The NRA donates to people of like mind and it does not matter the party. If they are donating to Democrats then they can not be considered “far right” because a far right organization would not donate any money to a Democrat.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
10:14 pm
Getalife
W was already well on the way
Yes Obama has increased them
Would’ve been far better for the economy if they’d raised the gas tax instead of the mpg requirements
Mpg standards are incredibly inefficient at reducing co2
USA Patriot
January 17th, 2013
10:14 pm
“Yeah, keep going with those lies USA” – You crack me up!
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:16 pm
How do you fix a failed party?
Start a new one.
Whigs.
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
10:17 pm
Man isn’t Holloween several months away. Of course successfully masquerading Barack Obama as a conservative would be the height of Holloween. “neocon” what a stupid left wing label dating back to the 1930’s but today’s neolibs don’t understand that their masters have handed them an outdated expression. Oh well lib’s have mostly always been followers. Guess it’s in their DNA.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:17 pm
jm,
That bailout had strings attached.
w’s bailout for the banks did not.
td
January 17th, 2013
10:19 pm
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:04 pm
The majority wanted action and they got it.
They will get better background checks.
That is what you cons are freaking out over.
Only because you progressives know better then to mess with the people and their gun rights. Last time the dems had the hubris to mess with the peoples gun rights they lost the house of reps for the first time in 40 something years. Dingy Harry is scared to death to take on the NRA and he not even bring up anything in the Senate that might put his power in jeopardy.
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
10:20 pm
Neocons hate it when they are busted for being frauds.
Time for some new Purity Tests…
Jm
January 17th, 2013
10:20 pm
Get
Yes
Strings like you must bail out my union buds
Ok, sleep calls
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:23 pm
td,
The ban is coming after the next slaughter of children.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
10:24 pm
One of the right wingers last night was trying to convince himself that both major parties had moved LEFT in the past forty years.
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
10:28 pm
“The ban is coming after the next slaughter of children.”
You’re probably now under survelllance.
td
January 17th, 2013
10:29 pm
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:16 pm
How do you fix a failed party?
Start a new one.
Whigs.
Nope work with what you have and in the Republicans case that means they control the House of Reps and should stop doing private negotiations with the President and go back to regular order and pass their agenda in the House.
Republicans totally control 24 states and control at least one house in 6 other states. They should continue the work of governors like Walker in Wisconsin. Balance the budget and crush the government employees unions. I really hope they go for the congressional district in the electoral college in MI, WI, OH and PA. This would put them back in the drivers seat in Presidential elections.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
10:30 pm
If they are donating to Democrats then they can not be considered “far right” because a far right organization would not donate any money to a Democrat.
WRONG!!! Just because a person has a (D) behind their name, that doesn’t automatically mean they are liberal. See, you conservatives are so hellbent on party purity that you forget that both parties used to have somewhat equal mixes of liberal and conservative members. Since y’all started the whole “I’m more conservative than you” meme, your membership is shrinking and so is your national election vote totals.
So, the NRA supports conservative Democrats, who cares? Still doesn’t change the fact that they’re far enough to the right that they wouldn’t know what moderate was if someone spelled it out on their home office windows for them, even with that spelling including Braille.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:31 pm
Good luck with that td.
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
10:33 pm
The refreshes on here this evening move about as fast as old people enjoy themselves. This old guy is out. Taps
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
10:33 pm
I really hope they go for the congressional district in the electoral college in MI, WI, OH and PA. This would put them back in the drivers seat in Presidential elections.
When your ideology sucks and voters know it, you try to change the rules to narrow the votes to your likening. And think of all the conservatives who accuse Dems of election tampering…
getalife
January 17th, 2013
10:34 pm
“You’re probably now under survelllance.”
They keep a folder of all your comments.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
10:35 pm
“I really hope they go for the congressional district in the electoral college in MI, WI, OH and PA. This would put them back in the drivers seat in Presidential elections.”
And that would be so different than the GOP efforts last November, right?
And I’m really gone
MeetInTheMiddle
January 17th, 2013
10:38 pm
@ JamVet
Man, the revelation that our country has actually moved left of the last 40 years really upset you last night didn’t it? Shouldn’t you be happy about that? Or is it just too upsetting for the narrative you’ve crafted to make you feel good about yourself?
Read Steven Pinker’s “Better Angels of Our Nature” sometime if you can pry yourself away from belittling everyone else and espousing homicidal fantasies against those you disagree with on this page.
I’ll ask you again: how, exactly, are we currently to the right of a society 40 years ago that seriously debated – on both sides – the positives and negatives of letting black and white people go to the same schools and drink from the same water fountains???
Get over it. We’re moving – ever so slowly – to the left. It shouldn’t get your panties all wadded up to admit that. You should be happy.
td
January 17th, 2013
10:39 pm
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
10:33 pm
Sort of like changing the rules to vote for a month so that you can browbeat people into getting on the bus and voting although they really could care a less? This would just be re evening the playing field.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
10:40 pm
Bro
exactly…. they went after those same states in November and FAILED……………..
GOP knows without changes the demographic game is not their friend. These “new” proposals are just a way to stymie the inevitable.
Since, the party in power usually doesn’t win the mid term, imo the GOP will not do much more than cosmetic changes before 2014. Hopefully some real changes by 2016. Otherwise, td is going to need even more than those lies about oversampling he bought into, even to convince him of a GOP win.