Guns, hot sauce and testosterone a spicy mix
In 2006, researchers at Knox College in Illinois performed a study on college men ages 18 to 22. Here’s how the study abstract reads:
“We tested whether interacting with a gun increased testosterone levels and later aggressive behavior. Thirty male college students provided a saliva sample (for testosterone assay), interacted with either a gun or a children’s toy for 15 min, and then provided another saliva sample. Next, subjects added as much hot sauce as they wanted to a cup of water they believed another subject would have to drink. Males who interacted with the gun showed significantly greater increases in testosterone and added more hot sauce to the water than did those who interacted with the children’s toy.”
The men were told that they were being studied to determine whether paying close attention to a task altered their later sensitivity to taste. They were tested for initial testosterone levels, and half were then asked to dismantle and reassemble the old “Mousetrap” game, writing a set of instructions on how to do so.
Desert Eagle handgun
The other half were asked to do the same with a pellet pistol, an exact replica in size and weight of a Desert Eagle handgun. Finally, after being tested again for testosterone, they were given a glass of water and bottle of hot sauce and asked to prepare a “sample” for the next study subject.
According to a description of the study at WebMD:
This hot-sauce trick has been used before. The more aggressive a man is feeling, the more hot sauce he tends to put in the next guy’s drink.
Sure enough, testosterone went up about 100 times more in the men who handled the gun than in the men who handled the children’s toy. And the gun handlers put three times more hot sauce in the water — on average, about a half ounce — than the toy handlers.
The more a man’s testosterone went up after gun handling, the more hot sauce he put in the water.
And since a story like this just wouldn’t be the same without a chart:
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Thomas Heyward Jr
January 17th, 2013
7:35 pm
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
7:20 pm
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 17th, 2013
7:08 pm
If your testoterone doesn’t go up when handling a fantastic manufactored product that you chose to purchase then………………………………..you probably carry a man-purse.
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just saying.
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If you ever once did what I did for a living and a weapon was merely a tool, then your testosterone wouldn’t raise anymore than it wouldif you picked up a hammer. But for you chickenhawks on the other hand…… who knows.
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tool
mike
January 17th, 2013
7:35 pm
Pogo is right about one thing. Liberals get upset about fairly responsible middle class white guys having guns, but they aren’t the ones using their guns to kill and mame daily. I watch channel 2, 5, and 11 news almost everyday and when they show a gun crime and the suspect, it’s usually not middle class white guys from the burbs. Just being honest about what I see.
We have some very serious inner city crime problems we need to address, but it seems we are too scared to mention it, lest we be labeled racist. Come on folks, the real gun problem is in the black community. And we all know it.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
7:36 pm
tom,
Are you okay?
Ron Paul is gone so are you lost?
Do you know when they will “fix” your party?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
7:37 pm
decibles ………… but we know don’t we ……….
)
Fred ™
January 17th, 2013
7:37 pm
LOL it’s been fun this evening. Ya’ll be chilly.
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
7:38 pm
Sheepdogs can live on sheep excrement.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
7:39 pm
If you ever once did what I did for a living and a weapon was merely a tool, then your testosterone wouldn’t raise anymore than it wouldif you picked up a hammer. But for you chickenhawks on the other hand…… who knows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKm5xQyD2vE
Granny Godzilla
January 17th, 2013
7:40 pm
Josef
I remember an ice storm.
Old wood burning fireplace roaring and quilts tacked over the archways for one toasty room in a big old house for a week.
The zillettes were little and the whole world was an adventure.
Can’t wait for the first snow with toddler g.
He brings the adventure back
getalife
January 17th, 2013
7:40 pm
cons are wops.
Without party.
TaxPayer
January 17th, 2013
7:41 pm
Cons are so easily manipulated. A rod and a staff to comfort them is all one needs.
Nduka
January 17th, 2013
7:41 pm
I have enjoyed following this interesting conversation but now I too have to run – time to exfoliate and moisturize.
barking frog
January 17th, 2013
7:43 pm
I’m so glad Jay said spicy mix and not frothy mix.
stands for decibels
January 17th, 2013
7:46 pm
I’m so glad Jay said spicy mix and not frothy mix.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
josef
January 17th, 2013
7:47 pm
GRANNY
Yeah, I remember that one toasty room, too…now that you mention it I may not be so homesick after all!
Our house was one of those that was built before air conditioning and was, well, airy!
But the magic wonder of the l’il ones exploring it…ah, yes…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
7:48 pm
“The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is
that a warrior takes everything as a challenge, while an ordinary
man takes everything as a blessing or as a curse.”
Matus
Boris Badnoff
January 17th, 2013
7:54 pm
This is all quite confusing to me. I have watched John Wayne dispatch many Japanese soldiers in WWII and I drive a Toyota. I have watched hours of Road Runner cartoons and have never purchased an anvil from the Acme Corp. My only homicidal tendencies are directed toward the woman who does the commercials for Regressive Auto Insurance who has a voice, personality, and mannerisms who makes me want to burn ever bed on earth. So far all I have learned from this blog is who would be dumb enough to use WebMD.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
8:01 pm
Getalife
Because the guy who said it is Italian
I posted it because if anyone thinks Chrysler is an American company anymore they’re, um, wrong
Keith
January 17th, 2013
8:02 pm
I am not keithb. Dont even know him.
Steve-USA (I don't have all the answer's, I don't even know all the questions)
January 17th, 2013
8:06 pm
Up here in the hills North of Atlanta we have a gun shop that has had a full parking lot for months. At some point even a fat man has enough donuts, how many guns do you guys need? Seriously at what point does the pro-gun people reach the saturation point when it comes to their personal arsenal?
Jm
January 17th, 2013
8:07 pm
Getalife
There’s also the comedy of an Italian thinking Italian made cars are better than American
Because that’s definitely not the case
Keith
January 17th, 2013
8:07 pm
its pretty funny seeing anti-gun fanatics making up silly stories about gunowners trying to compensate for some penile shortcoming when the largest market for guns these days are women. Do they really believe that a woman arming herself because she is being stalked, or is home alone like the recent case, that she is trying to compensate for a lack of some sexual inadequacy. They are really sick if they believe that.
OBIWAN
January 17th, 2013
8:08 pm
And in another study we found that driving a sports car also raises your testosterone levels. I say ban all sports cars…
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:09 pm
Do you have some sort of agenda here,
Yes indigo. It is to try and understand why you are so bitter.
TaxPayer
January 17th, 2013
8:11 pm
Once these conned figure out that they cannot feed their famblies or themselves with the guns they purchased, the pawn shops will become saturated with them and others will be able to pick up firearms for a fraction of what the cons spent.
OBIWAN
January 17th, 2013
8:11 pm
And in another study we found that being a male is a room full of beautiful women also raises his testosterone, I say ban all the beautiful women, oh wait the liberals have already done that….
indigo
January 17th, 2013
8:11 pm
Peace – 7:16 & 7:25
Did your fundamentalist pastor dictate these responses?
In any event, evasion and insults are not an answer.
Why can’t you just admit that, if your God knows all and sees all, and allows spontaneous abortions, but completely forbids us humans to do abortions on our own, then He is a “do as I say, not as I do” God?
Is that just too complicated for you?
Or, does it back you into a corner that neither you or your pastor can get out of?
Keith
January 17th, 2013
8:11 pm
Seriously at what point does the pro-gun people reach the saturation point when it comes to their personal arsenal?
Why does it matter to you? We are spending money helping the economy. Perhaps if you were doing something productive you could help the economy too. So go buy your son a Barbie Doll with all the accessories and stop worrying about what I am buying.
Jm
January 17th, 2013
8:12 pm
“But here’s the reality check for the green movement: Obama has proposed no new strategy on climate, it’s unclear if one is in the works, and there’s no guarantee the issue will occupy a major place in the inaugural address or next month’s State of the Union. ”
Boo
Obama sux
Worthless
Keith
January 17th, 2013
8:14 pm
Its pretty funny how these libs can strongly oppose something until obama decides to support it then they magically change their minds. Like Gitmo. It was a huge issue when Bush was in office. Now it doesnt matter. When Bush killed terrorists he was called judge, jury and executioner. No such accusations against barry.
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
8:15 pm
Kudos, Jay!
I definitely expected more than a few post election meltdowns.
But oowee! These violence addicted but impotent lunatics in the GOP are going absolutely berserk, huh>
The funniest part is that they actually think that they are on some sort of righteous crusade to save the republic from communists, Marxists and socialists. (Oh my)
But then again, these rubes actually thought that Mitt the Messiah had a snowball’s chance in h-e-double el of even competing in the aforementioned election.
I’d sure be scarce if I was the wife, children or family pet of some of these nutjobs!
indigo
January 17th, 2013
8:16 pm
Keith – 8:07 “the largest market for guns these days are women”
Then why, when the news shows long lines of people at gun stores in many cities, are they ALL men?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:17 pm
Up here in the hills North of Atlanta we have a gun shop that has had a full parking lot for months. At some point even a fat man has enough donuts, how many guns do you guys need? Seriously at what point does the pro-gun people reach the saturation point when it comes to their personal arsenal?
What’s it to you? Are you being charged for the guns they buy? You want the County to refuse the sales tax? You want the gun shop owner to quit selling guns so he can go on unemployment? Or does is it just irk you that free people can buy something you don’t like?
I went down Cheshire Bridge Road the other night and the parking lots to a couple of strip clubs were slam full of cars. You know, it didn’t bother me a bit. I just drove on by and went about my own business.
Get Real
January 17th, 2013
8:22 pm
“Scorned Woman” hot sauce is the best
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:22 pm
Once these conned figure out that they cannot feed their famblies or themselves with the guns they purchased, the pawn shops will become saturated with them and others will be able to pick up firearms for a fraction of what the cons spent.
Obviously you didn’t price an “assault weapon” during the previous ban. A lot of people are buying guns now because they expect the assault weapons ban to be reinstated and they will double their money, at least.
Doggone/GA
January 17th, 2013
8:23 pm
“Seriously at what point does the pro-gun people reach the saturation point when it comes to their personal arsenal?”
Time to dust off what I said when all this first started: as long as they are law abiding…it’s none of your business
Get Real
January 17th, 2013
8:24 pm
Keith…did you really expect fairness and balance with liberals? They define hypocrisy
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
8:28 pm
I’m with heathen and Doggone.
If these perpetually frightened faketriots want to spend their last minimum wage dime on their arsenal, I say go for it.
But to show just how demented they really are, they blame their purchases on………………… yep, Barack Obama.
No wonder they want no part of a mental health test to buy firearms!
getalife
January 17th, 2013
8:29 pm
jm,
In this global experiment called globalization to make the rich richer, most American companies sold out.
Even your precious stock exchange.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
8:32 pm
cons,
Did you fix your party yet or are you still without party?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:32 pm
dog: Awful lot of people fretting about what other people are doing, huh?
A boy is sitting on the curb smoking a cigarette.
A lady stops and says, “Little boy. Don’t you know that cigarettes are bad for you?”
Little Boy: ” Lady, my grand daddy lived to be a hundred.”
Lady: “And did he smoke?”
Little Boy: ” No, but he minded his own damn business.”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
8:35 pm
Would someone care to opine why Illinois (with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation) has such a violence problem while Vermont (with arguably the least restrictive gun laws in the nation) has very little ?
Note: You can move to Vermont tomorrow and carry a pistol concealed or unconcealed without a permit.
F. Sinkwich
January 17th, 2013
8:35 pm
“But then again, these rubes actually thought that Mitt the Messiah had a snowball’s chance in h-e-double el of even competing in the aforementioned election.”
Actually, Jammie, the Mittster had a pretty good chance.
‘Cept O’bozo rallied the freeloaders, like you and the rest of Jay’s Kommie Kludge here, more so than he was able to rally the productive, since they were at work.
TaxPayer
January 17th, 2013
8:36 pm
Cons are entertaining with all their cowardly talk about the big bad Obama the tyrant and how they just has to has more rods and staffs to comfort themselves so long as he’s around.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:36 pm
getalife: Does this strike a chord?
per·sev·er·a·tion (pr-sv-rshn)
n.
1. Uncontrollable repetition of a particular response, such as a word, phrase, or gesture, despite the absence or cessation of a stimulus, usually caused by brain injury or other organic disorder.
F. Sinkwich
January 17th, 2013
8:37 pm
“No wonder they want no part of a mental health test to buy firearms!”
Link, please.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
8:37 pm
godless,
Like wop?
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
8:38 pm
Good grief only an inveterate wild eyed far-left liberal or an op-ed commentator with low T could come up with anything as silly as this. I report, you decide.
Shine
January 17th, 2013
8:39 pm
The test is flawwed. The FDA has ruled that using yankees as subjects for any sort of fact finding relating to normal human behavior is idiotic. .
getalife
January 17th, 2013
8:40 pm
The cons are paying outrageous prices for their guns and ammo.
Easy money.
Old Physics Teacher
January 17th, 2013
8:40 pm
Using stats from the Brady Campaign (not even close to non-partisan)
Murders/deaths/suicide/accident/etc by gun TOTAL = 31,593
(includes a SIGNIFICANT number of people who shot themselves) non-partisan stats show the number nearer 10,500
Survivors = wounded by gun TOTAL= 66,769
Includes those deliberately shot by police
Number of deaths by automobile in 2009 total = 35,900
Number of people PERMANENTLY injured in car collisions in 2009 =2,219,000 (that’s 2 MILLION!)
Federal stats available by google-ing
Seems like we have a worse automobile problem than a gun problem. Maybe we need to be restricting the size of car’s gas tanks and putting a governor on EVERY car???
Really guys, get some perspective. The problem is we’re bringing a gun to a mental-health and crime fight.
For a two member family, we have 6 firearms and the rounds go where I aim them. I would dearly love to take my wife to downtown Atlanta to see the Fox and the small theaters and restaurants and stay till the wee hours, but the only way I would even consider going down there is armed to the teeth, and I’m not willing to do that. It’s not safe down there, and i have no interest in putting myself into a dangerous situation when I can stay home and watch HBO safely, and that’s the REAL crime here!
1) People wouldn’t go armed to the teeth if they felt safe, but everyone knows the judicial branch has put a revolving door on the jail for violent criminals and threw away the key for drug users. The cops can’t protect the average citizen.
Until this gets fixed people will continue to buy guns.
2) Crazy people get guns???? WHY????
weetamoe
January 17th, 2013
8:40 pm
They don’t make me feel like a man; do they make Janet Napolitano feel like a man? Your wife? You report; we query
Wealthy African-American physician T Howard of Mississippi kept a Thompson sub-machine gun at the foot of his bed and wore a pistol at his waist. African-American civil rights activist John Salter said, *I’m alive today because of the Second Amendment and the natural right to keep and bear arms.* I think the natural right argument speaks from the moral high ground, based as it is on first principles. The son of the founder of Louisiana’s Deacons for Defense. says that while walking in honor of Dr King on Monday he will also be taking steps in honor of gun appreciation day.
Keith
January 17th, 2013
8:41 pm
Then why, when the news shows long lines of people at gun stores in many cities, are they ALL men?
Did you ever stop to think they may be buying for their wives, daughters etc? Right now tho the main market is for so-called assault weapons, and mostly men are getting those. But before the lame stream media inspired frenzy a very large segment of the market was women buying guns.
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
8:43 pm
I bet if one drank a bottle of Frank’s hot sauce at one time, one’s yin would rise too.
Ban Frank’s hot sauce!
Tom Middleton
January 17th, 2013
8:43 pm
Now they should give them guns to handle with the hot-sauce thing to follow, and then they should give them “stand your ground” laws and see what they try to do. So far in Florida we have the deaths of two innocent young men, God help us!
Jay
January 17th, 2013
8:43 pm
But before the lame stream media inspired frenzy a very large segment of the market was women buying guns.
You mean NRA-inspired frenzy, correct? The organization heavily funded by the gun industry to create panic in their target audience and drive them to buy even more of the gun industry’s product?
At one level, you do have to admire the effectiveness of that marketing strategy. It is a thing of beauty.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:45 pm
Talked to a couple of dims who bought guns today also. They are concerned that they won’t be able to in the future due to all the nuttery that is going around. They weren’t talking about Conservative nuttery either.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
8:48 pm
They are out of solutions for inner city murders but the truth is the only way to end it is to legalize drugs and end the drug war.
They knock off the competition to make more money.
They are casualties of the war on drugs.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:49 pm
Easy money.
Yup. Double your investment if an assault weapon (sic) ban is passed.
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
8:49 pm
It’s the presidents duty to protect the security of this nation. It’s the mans responsibility to protect his families security in the home. It’s the far left liberals responsibility to his ideology to do neither. That’s the difference between conservatives and liberals.
OBIWAN
January 17th, 2013
8:50 pm
I wonder why liberals hate Mitt Romney, he has so many scandals, oh wait, can’t think of one. He has all these pictures of him out on the town drunk, oh wait he does not drink, or maybe womanizing, oh wait; he has been married to the same woman for 40 years……How about all those drug stories, oh wait, not only has he never taken any drugs, he does not even take anything caffeinated…. Gee how about how money grubbing he is, oh wait he gave 100% of the millions his father left him to charity, dang he sounds like a real jerk, that I would be honored to have as my neighbor…. Why is it again you liberals don’t like him?
weetamoe
January 17th, 2013
8:50 pm
My Nonna resents the wop slur. My Goombah does too.
And you should make those *cons* who live in your heads pay rent because they are imposters.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:51 pm
Jay, They buying frenzy is not inspired by the NRA. It is inspired by the President and the gun grabbers that are posting voraciously here all day long.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
8:52 pm
“They are concerned that they won’t be able to in the future due to all the nuttery that is going around.”
Well unless it is an “assault” weapon which the ban will not past Congress anyway, they have been duped.
I haven’t read any legitimate initiatives to ban any another “firearms”.
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
8:52 pm
“I wonder why liberals hate Mitt Romney”
The war on Romney is over.
Now the war lies with the NRA.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
8:52 pm
godless,
The only problem is there will be no AR ban.
You got punked by the nra.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
8:55 pm
“the gun grabbers ”
Guess they missed my place or just haven’t gotten to my street yet.
The percentage of those that want all guns banned is minimal and there is little to no support in DC.
Hyped up paranoia when the talk turns to people grabbing or confiscating firearms.
So the marketing campaign by the NRA is working well.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
8:55 pm
“any other”
getalife
January 17th, 2013
8:56 pm
“those *cons* who live in your heads pay rent because they are imposters.”
Oh no, you mean these cons posting here are not real?
I got catfished?
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
8:57 pm
You got punked by the nra
Nope the president did and he’s asking for more. He’ll get it.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:57 pm
The only problem is there will be no AR ban.
You got punked by the nra.
Last gun I bought was a bolt action.
You got punked by the President.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
8:59 pm
Well unless it is an “assault” weapon which the ban will not past Congress anyway, they have been duped.
I haven’t read any legitimate initiatives to ban any another “firearms”.
Probably. But it’s not my money, so it does not bother me.
Shine
January 17th, 2013
8:59 pm
I’m no “liberal” but I dont like Romney because he is a weirdo….and his weirdness was pointed out above.
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
9:00 pm
Sticky Fingers…
That’s what the liberals should be called now.
Watch out for their sticky fingers…
Your wallet.
Your weekly paycheck.
Your security.
Your social security.
Your health care.
Your freedom.
Beware of the sticky fingers.
getalife
January 17th, 2013
9:00 pm
“You got punked by the President.”
Yeah, the President forced to to pay marked up ,outrageous prices for your guns and ammo.
And you wonder why they call you insane?
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:00 pm
“Last gun I bought was a bolt action. ”
And that particular gun is listed in a bill in Congress as one to be banned or on an Executive Order that is waiting to be signed?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:01 pm
How many got punked with Facebook stock? There was a buying frenzy over that. Didn’t bother me either.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
9:01 pm
Recon:
“It’s the presidents duty to protect the security of this nation. It’s the mans responsibility to protect his families security in the home. It’s the far left liberals responsibility to his ideology to do neither. That’s the difference between conservatives and liberals.”
Best one yet ! You hit the nail on the head.
Also notice none of the libs. have chosen to opine to my 8:35 regarding the difference between Illinois and Vermont ?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:02 pm
And that particular gun is listed in a bill in Congress as one to be banned or on an Executive Order that is waiting to be signed?
No.
Redcoat
January 17th, 2013
9:03 pm
Liberals love psycho babble, and spending other people’s money for it
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
9:03 pm
Enter your comments hereRecon:
“It’s the presidents duty to protect the security of this nation. It’s the mans responsibility to protect his families security in the home. It’s the far left liberals responsibility to his ideology to do neither. That’s the difference between conservatives and liberals.”
Best one yet ! You hit the nail on the head.
Also notice none of the libs. have chosen to opine to my 8:35 regarding the difference between Illinois and Vermont ?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:04 pm
And you wonder why they call you insane?
I’m not paying marked up outrageous prices for my guns and ammo.
And you wonder why they call you delusional?
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:06 pm
godless
Doesn’t bother me either. If any given individual’s paranoia is driving them to purchase weapons at a higher price because they think it will be banned that is their choice.
If someone is running out to purchase “firearms” that could be listed as an “assault” weapon, I could actually see that logic, even though I doubt they will be banned.
If one is rushing to the store to purchase hand guns because they think they are about to be banned, their choice, but they are willfully ignorant of the facts. And yes the marketing campaign by the NRA is working as planned.
Not to this extent, but the NRA sold the line the when Obama was elected the 1st time. This isn’t new.
Recon 0311 2533
January 17th, 2013
9:07 pm
0311/ 8541,
Thanks…Vermont is a beautiful state, I’ve traveled through it. They need to dump Bernie Sanders though.
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
9:08 pm
godless, getalife already said before he bought his assault rifles in Mexico for cheap.
getalife is going to Gitmo once Obama catches him.
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:10 pm
And yes the marketing campaign by the NRA is working as planned.
Specifics please? What is the marketing campaign of the NRA? The NRA doesn’t manufacture or sell firearms.
Venn diagram of the what most dims believe about the NRA and the truth:
O O
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:10 pm
“getalife is going to Gitmo once Obama catches him.”
That was pretty funny
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 17th, 2013
9:11 pm
Recon:
I hear you ………… but what’s the difference re: crime/gun carry ?
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:11 pm
getalife is going to Gitmo once Obama catches him.
Brosephus™
January 17th, 2013
9:11 pm
Jay, They buying frenzy is not inspired by the NRA. It is inspired by the President and the gun grabbers that are posting voraciously here all day long.
Bullcrap. The buying frenzy started in 2008 and only left the conscious mind because of other media driven stories like the debt limit crap, healthcare crap, and other stuff since then. There was no “gun” agenda in 2008, and they were selling out just as much then as they are now. The NRA drives the sales to feed their industry sponsors. Ain’t nobody taking no guns, banning any guns, or doing much of anything else about legislation. Congress can’t even do simple disaster relief legislation so how in the hell are they going to pass something as sweeping as gun legislation?
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:11 pm
Moonbat
This song came to mind when I read your “sticky fingers” post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnmBpFSM5jw
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
9:12 pm
“That was pretty funny”
TBS, it ain’t funny, it’s true!
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:12 pm
getalife is going to Gitmo once Obama catches him.
He might just drone his ass.
Jay
January 17th, 2013
9:13 pm
From Businessinsider.com:
“In its early days, the National Rifle Association was a grassroots social club that prided itself on independence from corporate influence.
While that is still part of the organization’s core function, today less than half of the NRA’s revenues come from program fees and membership dues.
The bulk of the group’s money now comes in the form of contributions, grants, royalty income, and advertising, much of it originating from gun industry sources.
Since 2005, the gun industry and its corporate allies have given between $20 million and $52.6 million to it through the NRA Ring of Freedom sponsor program. Donors include firearm companies like Midway USA, Springfield Armory Inc, Pierce Bullet Seal Target Systems, and Beretta USA Corporation. Other supporters from the gun industry include Cabala’s, Sturm Rugar & Co, and Smith & Wesson.
The NRA also made $20.9 million — about 10 percent of its revenue — from selling advertising to industry companies marketing products in its many publications in 2010, according to the IRS Form 990.
Additionally, some companies donate portions of sales directly to the NRA. Crimson Trace, which makes laser sights, donates 10 percent of each sale to the NRA. Taurus buys an NRA membership for everyone who buys one of their guns. Sturm Rugar gives $1 to the NRA for each gun sold, which amounts to millions. The NRA’s revenues are intrinsically linked to the success of the gun business.
The NRA Foundation also collects hundreds of thousands of dollars from the industry, which it then gives to local-level organizations for training and equipment purchases.
(http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-industry-funds-nra-2013-1#ixzz2IHzjal6T )
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:14 pm
Ain’t nobody taking no guns, banning any guns, or doing much of anything else about legislation.
If that wasn’t President Obama talking about an assault weapon (sic) ban the other night on the TV, was it just the imagination of “gun nuts”?
moonbat betty
January 17th, 2013
9:15 pm
TBS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfsvS4v8ZL8
JamVet
January 17th, 2013
9:16 pm
Actually, Jammie, the Mittster had a pretty good chance.
Stupid with a capital S.
That weakling never had a chance. The day he was nominated I said he was going to get crushed. And I was damn near prescient with my prediction that he would not get 200 EC votes.
A pathetic party deserves a pathetic candidate and that is what you got, Aesop Andy…
You moochers got crushed. Get used to it, there are even worse days ahead for you losers…
godless heathen - owner of many things he does not need
January 17th, 2013
9:17 pm
Jay, The NRA does not manufacture or sell guns. They may be likened to an industry trade group, but so what? There are a lot of similar organizations in this society.
TBS
January 17th, 2013
9:17 pm
godless
Someone doesn’t have to directly sell something to “sell” a product or service or encourage people to purchase.
Many lobbyist don’t actually sell the actual product or service they are pushing but they do receive funds to push certain legislation or work to stymie legislation…………. Heck many do not even work directly for the companies they are advocating for. They work for various trade groups, etc
You damn well know that. But you can pretend that you don’t all you like.
Vladimir
January 17th, 2013
9:17 pm
Dr. Susan Gratia before House subcommittee on guns. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awjxvMRdF-U
Gun Control in Australia – Watch and Weep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGaDAThOHhA
When a country takes away guns from its citizens it’s in big trouble as they are finding out in Australia.
USC
January 17th, 2013
9:18 pm
It appears many of the bloggers here want to pick a fight. Just thinking about guns and they think they are men. In the 21st century men will have to take responsibiliy for their actions, including their anonymous words. The name calling and immaturity here is a good indication of why guns in their hands are dangerous. They forget where they are and have to be arrested at the airport. They fail to lock them up and their kids accidentally kill themselves or take the Bushmaster down to the local school and shoot it up. Every gun in the U.S. was initially in the hands of a person stated to be responsible and, when it is used in a crime – that responsible person is responsible. Get over it. Grow up. Testosterone is high in 12 year olds but they are not men.