The ever-subtle geniuses at the NRA strike again
The National Rifle Association is not exactly renowned for its subtlety and sense of decorum. It does not persuade; it bullies. It does not discuss; it shouts. And decades of exposure to its own shouting have left it tone-deaf.
The NRA’s newest ad continues in the long tradition.
As the NRA apparently sees it, it is hypocritical and elitist for the president to protect his two daughters against kidnap efforts or physical attack by enemies foreign or domestic unless every other child in America also gets his or her own personal Secret Service detail.
– Jay Bookman
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WDE
January 16th, 2013
12:39 pm
Nothing in that little snippet I find offensive, I think guns and abortion should be handled the same…if you don’t want one don’t get one.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 16th, 2013
12:39 pm
Bro
Hope you’re feeling better.
That’s what you get though for living with two women (SICK and tired)
tom gambeski
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
Jay,Saul Alinsky would be proud of how you,Obama and Hillary Clinton use the methods he describes in his book “Rules for Radicals”.
Old Saul preached that if you can’t win over your enemy into believing your way is the only way you’re then allowed to use any method government chooses.
Obama learned his lessons well,as did you, both of you have even fine tuned what Alinsky believed and those methods of using ridicule,name calling, divisiveness, condescension and repeated distortion of the truth, to have your opposition submit, has brought political dis-cause and your form of journalism to a new low in this country..
Call It Like It Is
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
— Giving schools flexibility to use federal grant money to improve school safety, such as by hiring school resource officers.
I’m confused. Isnt this the same thing as putting an armed officer in each school that the NRA wanted done? Hmmmmmmm
jms
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
iAll I will say is: If Obama surounds himself with Children at this press conference on his stand on Gun Control, I want to know why people think it is OK if he uses other peoples children as props to push his agenda,…. BUT it is not OK for the NRA to point out that his children have armed security…. they do not even use a picture the Obama kids….. REALLY what is going on here? This is such hypocracy it makes me sick. What is good for the goose should be good for the gander! These politicians think they are American Royalty, they seem to forget really quickly that they are elected public servants! here to serve the epoeple not their own inflated ego’s!!!!
you can't fix stupid or Democrats or liberals
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
What’s repugant is Obama talking about gun control and Eric Holder sitting in front row. Talk about gun trafficking he’s the best at it.
jms
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
iAll I will say is: If Obama surounds himself with Children at this press conference on his stand on Gun Control, I want to know why people think it is OK if he uses other peoples children as props to push his agenda,…. BUT it is not OK for the NRA to point out that his children have armed security…. they do not even use a picture the Obama kids….. REALLY what is going on here? This is such hypocracy it makes me sick. What is good for the goose should be good for the gander! These politicians think they are American Royalty, they seem to forget really quickly that they are elected public servants! here to serve the epoeple not their own inflated ego’s!!!!
jms
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
iAll I will say is: If Obama surounds himself with Children at this press conference on his stand on Gun Control, I want to know why people think it is OK if he uses other peoples children as props to push his agenda,…. BUT it is not OK for the NRA to point out that his children have armed security…. they do not even use a picture the Obama kids….. REALLY what is going on here? This is such hypocracy it makes me sick. What is good for the goose should be good for the gander! These politicians think they are American Royalty, they seem to forget really quickly that they are elected public servants! Here to serve the poeple not their own inflated ego’s!!!!
obamaSINLADEN
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
in a gun free zone…who will have the gun? thats right,the deranged criminal not the lawful citizens. I encourage everyone to support the NRA. oh by the way,with smaller clips I just get to reload faster!!
Fred ™
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 16th, 2013
12:22 pm
Fred, have to disagree with you on the CDC. There are a lot of mental health and gun related issues that the CDC and others can help, especially at identifying the warning signs and signals to look for that someone may be considering just being a “2d amendment fanatic/extremist” to a active mass-killer.
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Bullsht Keep. The CDC is for INFECTIOUS diseases. They are microbiologists who work on Ebola not nutcases lunatics.
Do you know any DOctors, or scientists that work there/ They don’t have enough money to do what they are SUPPOSED to be doing without tossing a bunch of political crap in there to go along with it.
This all started a few years ago when one of the directors was a power hungry political activist (and a piss porr scientist BTW) and director her people to write a report declaring that gun violence was an EPIDEMIC and thus should be solved by the CDC.
Just damn. Stick with curing the common cold and leave the political ramifications of the 2nd amendment to politicians. Medicine should NOT be involved in politics. Nor science. When you start skewing results to meet a political agenda the work is garbage. PERIOD.
GT
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
Ron Schmeits was interviewed on the News Hour on PBS last night. He was in Judy Woodruff’s face with counter statistics and dominating retorts that keep a polite soft spoken Woodruff spinning to keep up with the loose information Schmeits was given up as fact. Style over substance very similar to the show put on in the first debate of Romney with Obama. You can’t get around the bullhorn, in your face misrepresentations that in itself is too unnerving to have a factual conversation. Newt Gingrich may have invented this thuggery they call debating. He certainly is the father of shutting down government as a viable way to distort what his confederates want from its captures. As Speaker of the House, Newt almost cased the joint called government with a criminal mind found its supportive weaknesses and planned accordingly during the first week of Obama’s first term how to destroy him. Gun rights, budgets, healthcare means nothing to this crowd, it is the power and the money these people obtain in the shadows that stir the motivation.
I think of Harry Truman after being president of the US going home to a middle class life of normality and then watch Newt who has never won a real election, geramanded what little he did get, as many in the Tea Party have, living large and for what. He destroys this country to the pleasure of the right and this country’s enemies and gets paid handsomely for it.
Peadawg
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
“Also, If gun laws are passed how do we PROVE that they stopped a massacre?”
It’ll take a few years to see if there’s an overall decline in gun violence/mass shooting/etc
Paul
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
Brosephus
” Why pick on the children of the President? ”
Because they’re bullies? Thugs? Mentally challenged?
All of the above?
getalife
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
crier was cut and pasting rw media last night like his media was credible.
Cracked me up
alittlecommonsense
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
So, you’re saying that the Secret Service agents at the school use Bushmaster rifles with 100 bullet magazines? REALLY???
No Goldie – They use single shot hunting rifles. Um…. I think the secret service has plenty of weapons you guys would like to see banned. They may not flash them in an elementary school – but they have them.
Towncrier
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
“http://tinyurl.com/aaydeu5″
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y
Don Abernethy
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
Most gun owners will not obey rules by Obama that are not approved by congress and that violate the second amendment.
Thulsa Doom
January 16th, 2013
12:42 pm
So would obamas new gun bill have stopped the sandy hook massacre? If so how? That one is sure to discombulate a Lotta little liberal noggins.
stands for decibels
January 16th, 2013
12:43 pm
About those supercalfragilistic Executive Orders that have all them sheriffs in West Bumphux all hoppin’ mad…
In addition to the legislative efforts, White House officials stressed the actions that Mr. Obama is prepared to take on his own. In recent days, gun rights advocates have accused the president of a power grab, saying they feared he would exceed his executive authority in an attempt to take their guns away.
In fact, the list of executive actions is relatively modest, with most of the steps involving the president directing agencies to do a better job of sharing information.
Among the executive actions: to “launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign”; to “review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes”; and to “direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies.”
The president also promises to “launch a national dialogue” on mental health led by Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services, and Arne Duncan, the education secretary.
Mr. Obama also was overturning a 15-year-old ban on the Centers for Disease Control conducting research on gun violence. Officials said they reviewed the law and determined it only banned research intended to promote gun control, so they argued renewing fact-based research would not qualify.
more at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/17/us/politics/obama-to-ask-congress-to-toughen-gun-laws.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0
Brosephus™
January 16th, 2013
12:43 pm
Towncrier
From your link…
The Belize-born MC—who was deported out of the United States after being released from prison in 2009 following a nine year sentence for his part in the 1999 Club New York shooting—has been trying to get back to the States with no success.
Shyne needs to worry about Shyne first. Second, he needs to realize that Obama is President of the United States and not the Mayor of Chicago. What can Obama do that can not be done by a local politician? Why would the president have to get personally involved in local politics in Chicago? The best thing Obama can do is fulfill the duties of his office. The people of Chicago have plenty of local and state politicians to get involved with things as to need the president’s assistance.
That’s just my $.02 anyway. Chicago has to clean up its own mess just like any other city does. They don’t get a pass just because Obama considers it his hometown.
Tony
January 16th, 2013
12:44 pm
mbtc! Bull capital Sheyot. You ain’t took over anything. Sure enough didn’t vote for Obama. Didn’t vote for no dang republican either. Wow that kinda shoots your little comeback all to he!! and back, don’t it? I got no use for BABY killers or Loons (look into a near by mirror)trying to enslave me with their stupidity. Why aren’t you standing up for those murdered unborn babies? Oh I forgot the Democrats motto on that little problem. It’s a woman’s right to do with here body as she pleases. That would make you a hypcrite, now wouldn’t it? Well fool, it’s the right of American’s citizens to own fire arms. I’ll tell you what. Yall stop killing babies and I’ll rethink my stance on gun control.
By the way.I also have no use for a government hell bent on keeping it’s disadvantaged in the gutter. In other words the GOP. Unlike you I am not a blind follower of any one political party. Unlike you, I can think for myself. You wanna know something really funny though? I don’t even own a gun. Go figure.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 16th, 2013
12:44 pm
Brosephus™
January 16th, 2013
12:33 pm
While I challenge all politicians, I do respect the security risk inherent in the family of our WH and congress to a less degree. Of course, the NRA scaremongering (a frequent tactic of all parties)simply reflects the lack of simple common sense.
Am I the only one who finds that fact that less than 2% of our population are members and we all cowtow to the fringe element of this group disagreeable?
Harry
January 16th, 2013
12:44 pm
The Supreme Ruler likes to hide behind children! Hitler loved childrenand they sang songs about him also 1 The NRa is 100 per cent correct!!
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 16th, 2013
12:45 pm
Pea
Like I said. You’ve come a long way my friend
Towncrier
January 16th, 2013
12:45 pm
“Crier was cut and pasting rw media last night like his media was credible. Cracked me up”
Not intended to be an instance of self-defeating irony (but one nonetheless).
Harry
January 16th, 2013
12:45 pm
The Supreme Ruler likes to hide behind children! Hitler loved childrenand they sang songs about him also !! The NRA is 100 per cent correct!!
Mr Right
January 16th, 2013
12:45 pm
Wish Obama would just go play golf!
Brosephus™
January 16th, 2013
12:46 pm
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
We are not animals, and we are not all equal.
Harry
January 16th, 2013
12:46 pm
The Supreme Ruler likes to hide behind children! Hitler loved children and they sang songs about him also !! The NRA is 100 per cent correct!!
Harry
January 16th, 2013
12:46 pm
The Supreme Ruler likes to hide behind children! Hitler loved children and they sang songs about him also !! The NRA is 100 per cent correct!!
Peadawg
January 16th, 2013
12:47 pm
“Most gun owners will not obey rules by Obama that are not approved by congress and that violate the second amendment.”
Have you read the list of 23 orders? It doesn’t look bad at all.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/16/list-executive-actions-obama-plans-to-take-as-part-anti-gun-violence-plan/
Paul
January 16th, 2013
12:48 pm
Towncrier
Get thee behind me, leg humper!!!
wait… knowing you…. on second thought….
Get thee off to the side of me, leg humper!!!
kayaker 71
January 16th, 2013
12:49 pm
So, it appears that Bozo is using Newtown and those slaughtered kids as an excuse for limiting multi round magazines and assault weapons. It has come out since the shooting that neither were used in the killings. The shooter used only 4 handguns….. the AR 15 was left in the car.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 16th, 2013
12:49 pm
Thulsa Doom
January 16th, 2013
12:42 pm
Not remotely of course..we need to do what he suggests but the exposure our kids face has not changed one iota…Hopefully, security companies are working on technology that would prevent anyone from getting within a perimeter of school without sounding an alarm…
We need to protect them at the location….the genie is already 240 years or so out of the bag..
obamaSINLADEN
January 16th, 2013
12:50 pm
peadawg This foolish left wing power grab will do NOTHING to stop a massacre with a firearm. Nut cases have always been with us and they always will be. The only thing this is doing is opening the door for MORE gun control. They will say this isn’t working so let’s dictate more suppresion of firearms in the name of the churine. You know, kinda like the department of edumacation. Its a joke,it isn’t working so lets do more of the same. gata NRA!
Paul
January 16th, 2013
12:50 pm
Harry!!! You’re back!!!
“Rehab for troll addiction” didn’t quite work out for you, did it?
Take heart, there’s always next time -
RB from Gwinnett
January 16th, 2013
12:50 pm
Indigo, “Also, Canada, France, Britan and Germany, to name a few, also have far tougher gun laws and enforcement that we do.”
Germany, Indigo? Do you seriously not know anything about the history of Germany?
Are you even aware “history” goes back more than 65 years?
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 16th, 2013
12:50 pm
OK
Back to work. Someone has to support all you 1%’ers
Brosephus™
January 16th, 2013
12:51 pm
NoCom
I’m getting better. I’m starting to get my strength back. If anything, my time here is likely coming to an end or close to it. While sick and medicated, I got to read this blog with no preconcieved notions or ideas, and I found it to be purely reptitious nonsense for the most part. There are people who bring forth ideas and thoughts, but there are some who repeat the same garbage regardless of what the topic is about.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 16th, 2013
12:51 pm
Paul 12:37
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
mm
January 16th, 2013
12:51 pm
I see the cons are mad because they got their asses kicked again.
Alas, the majority of Americans stand behind Obama.
When will the GOP and their foolish followers get with the mainstream of Americans?
Fred ™
January 16th, 2013
12:51 pm
RB from Gwinnett
January 16th, 2013
12:17 pm
“You can turn them in or go to jail or have them taken from your cold dead hands, your choice. America will continue without the foolish.”
Or you can ignore the “executive order” because it’s not an an enforceable law.
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Yeah there ya go. Just tell the US Gov’t to kiss your ass and keep paying your check. I love it. I guess RB already has his house started here where he can be a REAL Amurikan and not have to listen to some Socialist anti-American darkie and a bunch of liberals until the REAL war comes:
http://www.iiicitadel.com/
logicalthinker
January 16th, 2013
12:51 pm
Indigo, did you read the Personal Journey story in the AJC about Ilse Reiner? Try telling her not to worry about a tyrannical government. Do I think it will happen..probably not. But can it happen..absolutely! I thought one of the lessons learned after the Nazi invasion, was “never forget”. Looks like we forgot.
http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/registration_article/registration.html
Obamatron
January 16th, 2013
12:52 pm
“I think of Harry Truman after being president of the US going home to a middle class life of normality…”
Bess: “What did you do today, honey?”
Harry: “Signed some papers, played with the dog, dropped some nuclear weapons on a couple of cities, did the NYT crossword puzzle…”
Brosephus™
January 16th, 2013
12:53 pm
Paul
Yep. That’s what I thought when I saw that ad on the news this morning. I pegged its defenders almost perfectly before even reading the posts.
Wayne Dalton
January 16th, 2013
12:53 pm
Jay- The armed security people at Sidwell Friends have nothing to do with the Secret Service (they’ve been there for a long time). NRA’s point is that this is a rich school protecting celebrity / politicians’ kids, while Obama and other celebrities (who have their own armed security teams) scoff at protecting average Joe’s kids. I don’t feel great about bringing any President’s kids into it, but it is hypocritical to parade out kids for political purposes and not have the incongruity pointed out
ChipsterNGA
January 16th, 2013
12:53 pm
Jay never disappoints in his shallow analyses.
Scuba Steve
January 16th, 2013
12:53 pm
I’d sure love for someone to cite President Obama or anyone else in the administration saying or even hinting that armed guards in schools was a bad idea.
Note the subtle but CRUCIAL difference between saying that and saying “Setting aside funds to put an armed guard in EVERY school as a solution for our gun problem” is a bad idea.
I’ll wait, morons.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 16th, 2013
12:54 pm
Harry
January 16th, 2013
12:46 pm
I guess as you are blinded by the blizzard of BS spun by NRA, you pay no attention to the fact that his kids safety is a matter of national security. The Hitler comparison is childish and I can assure you not original….
Why would you suggest anything such as that? Is that a thoughtful contribution to the discussion?
Dawg Man
January 16th, 2013
12:54 pm
@ JohnnyReb @ 9:46 a.m.
Great point regarding the children. It’s amazing how Jay & the other libs complain about the NRA “using” children & yet give this President a pass for “using” them as he did today.
Amazing! Talk about speaking with a forked tongue.
Granny Godzilla
January 16th, 2013
12:55 pm
tom gambeski
January 16th, 2013
12:41 pm
Jay,Saul Alinsky would be proud of how you,Obama and Hillary Clinton use the methods he describes in his book “Rules for Radicals”.
Old Saul preached that if you can’t win over your enemy into believing your way is the only way you’re then allowed to use any method government chooses.
Obama learned his lessons well,as did you, both of you have even fine tuned what Alinsky believed and those methods of using ridicule,name calling, divisiveness, condescension and repeated distortion of the truth, to have your opposition submit, has brought political dis-cause and your form of journalism to a new low in this country..
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Apparently you don’t keep up…..
WHo uses the Alinsky playbook?
http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topics/alinsky-s-rules-for-radicals
http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topics/12-ways-to-use-saul-alinsky-s-rules-for-radicals-against-libera-1
sadly this blog only allows for two links…..
or you could read this as well
“Tea Party leader and “the co-founder of Top Conservatives on Twitter” Michael Patrick Leahy has written an entire book based off of Alinsky’s “shocking” work, deftly entitled: Rules for Conservative Radicals: Lessons from Saul Alinsky[!] the Tea Party Movement and the Apostle Paul in the Age of Collaborative Technologies”
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Low info voters…bah humbug
techhorn
January 16th, 2013
12:55 pm
NRA hit the nail on the head
SB, ALT
January 16th, 2013
12:57 pm
@Christian Conservative,
You are anything but Christian. Don’t you dare insult my faith by what you say.
straitroad
January 16th, 2013
12:57 pm
500 million dollars….obama is officially off his rocker. His default reaction to anything is to make one party responsible for what another party does.
Lord Help Us
January 16th, 2013
12:57 pm
Why is it that the loons that are scared to death that their assault weapons are protecting them from government tyranny are also the biggest supporters of the MIC…
You fruitloops have lost your frickin’ minds…
Fred ™
January 16th, 2013
12:57 pm
Tony
January 16th, 2013
12:44 pm
mbtc! Bull capital Sheyot. You ain’t took over anything. Sure enough didn’t vote for Obama. Didn’t vote for no dang republican either. Wow that kinda shoots your little comeback all to he!! and back, don’t it? I got no use for BABY killers or Loons (look into a near by mirror)trying to enslave me with their stupidity. Why aren’t you standing up for those murdered unborn babies? Oh I forgot the Democrats motto on that little problem. It’s a woman’s right to do with here body as she pleases. That would make you a hypcrite, now wouldn’t it? Well fool, it’s the right of American’s citizens to own fire arms. I’ll tell you what. Yall stop killing babies and I’ll rethink my stance on gun control.
By the way.I also have no use for a government hell bent on keeping it’s disadvantaged in the gutter. In other words the GOP. Unlike you I am not a blind follower of any one political party. Unlike you, I can think for myself. You wanna know something really funny though? I don’t even own a gun. Go figure.
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Tony? Is that you from the Shroomers football league?
cloudodust
January 16th, 2013
12:57 pm
Hmmm. One would think from many of the posts above that NRA members are the ones that rape, rob and kill while pointing a gun at innocent victims. Won’t wash with logic…Have a safe day in your neighborhood of choice and pray (if you do) that a crazy doesn’t cross your path. If a crazy does cross your path, it’s a 99.998% probability it won’t be an NRA member…
Towncrier
January 16th, 2013
12:57 pm
“Get thee behind me, leg humper!!”
“Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.” (Matthew 5:11)
Fred ™
January 16th, 2013
12:58 pm
Brosephus™
January 16th, 2013
12:51 pm
NoCom
I’m getting better. I’m starting to get my strength back. If anything, my time here is likely coming to an end or close to it. While sick and medicated, I got to read this blog with no preconcieved notions or ideas, and I found it to be purely reptitious nonsense for the most part. There are people who bring forth ideas and thoughts, but there are some who repeat the same garbage regardless of what the topic is about.
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Geez, I told you THAT months ago……..
Thulsa Doom
January 16th, 2013
12:58 pm
Stevie ray,
A perimeter wouldn’t work and would be too expensive anyway. This belief that technology can save us from a lot of things just isn’t true.
My point to others is that this new bill or law would solve absolutely nothing. It’s just a bunch of noise and photo opping. A bunch of feel good that we did something nonsense.
Old Goober
January 16th, 2013
12:58 pm
Please let that youngster know that you can hardly turn around at a CDC campus without encountering an M.D. They’re everywhere—in offices, in cubicles, you name it. Only a truly ignorant person would assert that there are few MDs or scientists at CDC.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 16th, 2013
12:59 pm
Great point regarding the children.
George Bush reading The Pet Goat says, “What?”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 16th, 2013
12:59 pm
No doubt the use of these kids as a prop compares even less favorably that the teleprompter. His kids should be adequately protected but dragging these kids in front of the cameras while offering no increase in school safety is disingenious and anyone who denies it is not thinking this through..
Brosephus™
January 16th, 2013
1:00 pm
Stevie Ray
It’s not that we cowtow to them. It’s the elected officials dancing in unison that gives us all that same appearance. Yet one of the many reasons that an (I) on a ballot is a virtual guarantee of not getting a vote from me.
Fred ™
January 16th, 2013
1:01 pm
Town Crier. Leave the quote marks off the link there cowboy. But it was funny once I copy pasted it lol.
Sundawg
January 16th, 2013
1:02 pm
This video is absolutely right. The laws Obama wants passed through have nothing to do with protecting children. They are being designed to take the rights away from law abiding citizens. This should be common sense but thats something most liberals lack.
getalife
January 16th, 2013
1:03 pm
All those cons that paid outrageous prices for AR’s got punked nut I thank them.
Now I need you cons to follow thru on shutting down government to crash the market again so I can take this money and invest in some stocks.
Thank you cons.
Erwin's cat
January 16th, 2013
1:04 pm
Paranoia is a serious mental illness.>/i>
unless everyone is really out to get ya
rightwingextreme
January 16th, 2013
1:06 pm
Art Vandelay
January 16th, 2013
12:16 pm
rightwingextreme, how many Apaches and drones have been brought down by Afghan fighters? The reason we’re losing in Afghanistan (and the reason every country that’s ever invaded that country has lost) is that a) we don’t even know who the enemy is because they look like civilians and b) the terrain provides countless opportunities for ambushes and quick escapes in the mountains and caves. There’s no equivalency whatsoever
And you think folks over here are going to do the same?? In Guerrilla war you never take on the enemy in stand up fire fight.
Granny Godzilla
January 16th, 2013
1:06 pm
Obama’s 23 Planned Executive Actions On Guns
Here is a list provided by the White House of the 23 executive actions President Obama plans to take to reduce gun violence in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., massacre:
1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
From TPM
Paul
January 16th, 2013
1:06 pm
Brosephus 12:53
Kinda sad, isn’t it, that they’re so predictable that whatever the NRA tosses out they swallow and defend? Wonder what would’ve happened if they’d thought that ad was from George Soros?
I trust you’re feeling better and recovering well. Just a selfish request – stay around. You are one I learn from.
Towncrier 12:57
Martyr complex?
Just…. wow………
But hey, if it works for ya’, fine with me.
See, I have this ‘live and let live’ attitude. As long as people aren’t hurting others, I pretty much say ‘doesn’t affect my world. No need to try to control others.”
You should try it sometime.
stands for decibels
January 16th, 2013
1:07 pm
Should Obama get pre-approval from the ICPWB (Internet Committee for Presidentin’ While Black) before inviting kids to come to the next Easter Egg Roll?
Just wondering.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 16th, 2013
1:07 pm
Regarding Three of Obama’s Executive Orders:
#7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
Will gun safety be taught in schools? (Note to libs. – we teach everything else including safe sex and how to cross the street safely).
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
WELL, WELL : What have we here? Obama advocating armed guards in schools ? What are you libs. going to do about this one ?
#16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
Hummmm …………. are doctors to also ask about alcohol in the home that teenagers can get to; covers on swimming pools, safety devices in wall sockets and stair gates regarding young children, etc., etc., etc., etc. ??
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/16/list-executive-actions-obama-plans-to-take-as-part-anti-gun-violence-plan/#ixzz2IAAWXGcr
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 16th, 2013
1:08 pm
Oh, and Fred — about using chunks for smoke instead of chips: eventually they turn into charcoal lumps so monitor the temperature if it’s important.
getalife
January 16th, 2013
1:08 pm
The goal is to stop one child from being slaughtered at school.
The AR ban will fail in congress and that will be the end of that story.
The universal back ground check will pass and that is it.
It turns out the cons are drama queens.
mm
January 16th, 2013
1:08 pm
Yes, the cons fired cops all across the country in the name of “deficit reduction”.
Now they want to either hire 100,000 cops or take 1 out of every 7 existing cops and put them in schools.
Republicans CANNOT govern.
Fred ™
January 16th, 2013
1:09 pm
Old Goober
January 16th, 2013
12:58 pm
Please let that youngster know that you can hardly turn around at a CDC campus without encountering an M.D. They’re everywhere—in offices, in cubicles, you name it. Only a truly ignorant person would assert that there are few MDs or scientists at CDC.
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What the hell are you talking about? Reading comprehension is your friend. Asking someone if they know any Doctors or scientists that work there means does he PERSONALLY KNOW any, not that there aren’t any. It’s like asking someone if they know a cop that works at the Tucker Precinct.
Just damn.
And for your info, I know more PhD’s, scientists, and MD’s from the CDC than you could shake a stick at. My daughter went to daycare at the Clifton School. I can hardly pee off my property without whizzing on someone from there. Both here AND at my old house in Gwinnett.
Just damn.
Real Scootter
January 16th, 2013
1:09 pm
Just my 2 cents worth,but I think the ad was disrespectful to our Prez no matter what side of the gun issue you are on.
Tony
January 16th, 2013
1:10 pm
Art Vandelay. You are making assumptions on facts not in evidence. First of all your reference that the government can do whatever it pleases anytime it wants to is total BS. Tell that to the North Koreans, the Vietnamese, the Afghans. Tell that to the many terrorist organizations out there that are attempting to kill anything not of the Muslim faith. If the US government so damn smart then why did it take inside information before Bin Laden was finally take out. If the government is so smart then why are there thousands of unsolved murder’s and millions of other unsolved crimes? The next point you seem to miss. If the government were to become tyrannical ie Nazi Germany, USSR, North Korea, Cuba and many other countries,. What makes you think that the entire government would back a government like that? Some of those, I suspect a lot of those military and civil defenders of our way of life would choose to fight against such a government. I mean how did the military/government help the Egyptian president. How did the military/government help the Libyan president? Pray tell, how do you think the Syrian president will benefit from his government. He like the rest of them will fall by the way side just like the government of this country will do if it gets to big for it’s pants. Hopefully it will never come to that. Don’t think I’ll be around to see it if it does.
stands for decibels
January 16th, 2013
1:10 pm
Just a selfish request – stay around. You are one I learn from.
This.
Jim
January 16th, 2013
1:12 pm
Youu pretty are showing your lack of intelligence. First, the primary mission of the Secret Service is not to protect the president and their family. For all you know it alls – the primary mission of the Secret Service is to prevent and stop counterfeiting.
Second, the role of protecting the preseident was a law passede by your congress. It was something that never was mandated by the president.
And for all you so called history buffs – the role of protecting the president began after 4 assasination attempts on President Lincoln and there wasn’t a Secret Service back then. It was Allan Pinkerton founded of Pinkerton Security that was given that mission
Brosephus™
January 16th, 2013
1:12 pm
Fred
I knew that then. This week, I’ve probably used the alternative for donkey fez enough times to myself that you would have probably banned me.
td
January 16th, 2013
1:12 pm
The funny part of this whole discussion is that there is not going to be anything done. Harry Reid said yesterday that he did not have the votes in the Senate to pass an assault weapons ban. The Dem Senator of WV and ND will not vote for any weapons bans and they both have said so.
Here is a list of the Dem Senators up for re election in 2014 in red states. Can you name which of these Senators will vote for a gun ban?
Mark Begich of Alaska, Max Baucus of Montana, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Tim Johnson of South Dakota, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana and Mark Pryor of Arkansas.
rightwingextreme
January 16th, 2013
1:12 pm
Wayne Dalton
January 16th, 2013
12:53 pm
Jay- The armed security people at Sidwell Friends have nothing to do with the Secret Service (they’ve been there for a long time). NRA’s point is that this is a rich school protecting celebrity / politicians’ kids, while Obama and other celebrities (who have their own armed security teams) scoff at protecting average Joe’s kids. I don’t feel great about bringing any President’s kids into it, but it is hypocritical to parade out kids for political purposes and not have the incongruity pointed out
Some kids are more important than other kids.
JamVet
January 16th, 2013
1:13 pm
I think the ad was disrespectful to our Prez…
You mean the condescending tone that is damn dear dripping with hate every time that talking head says “Mister Obama”?
Nah….
Dawg'88
January 16th, 2013
1:14 pm
the “ever subtle” Bookman is the pot calling the kettle black.
Hypocrite at its worst=liberals
Want to protect human lives when it comes to guns but fails to see the irony that they oppose the protection of the most innocent in our society from being dismembered and thrown into trash cans…the unborn children of our society cry out for a remedy to their murder but we worry less about them.
Funnyif those children were killed by a gunman when they were still in their mother;s womb we would be outraged. And yet…we let so called doctors kill them “legally”. What a sick and cruel joke.
Where is the outrage for them.
55,000,000 and counting….when will it end? When will skull crushing and dismemberment of an innocent child stop? Sadly, when you have the defender of the heinous crime of abortion in the White House what we expect is for it to never end…and yet he weeps for the children in Conn. not even realizing that both are equally tragic and part of the Culture of Death that he enables.
Hypocracy and irony….sad
getalife
January 16th, 2013
1:15 pm
If you want to shoot a real gun, the Vegas gun show lets you shoot a 50 cal automatic and other automatic rifles.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 16th, 2013
1:15 pm
Jay
Fred ™
January 16th, 2013
1:16 pm
Granny Godzilla: Thanks for the list. I TOTALLY disagree with the following on that list:
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
I’ve already posted my objections to this.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
It’s not my Doctors damn business if I have a gun or not and I have told any that have asked me the question just that: It’s none of your GD business. And they better NOT deny medical care for refusing to answer.
Real Scootter
January 16th, 2013
1:16 pm
Granny Godzilla
January 16th, 2013
1:06 pm
Most of that sounds reasonable to me Granny except #14 & #16.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 16th, 2013
1:17 pm
Oh look… we’ve gotten an “arm the fetuses” post. Has the NRA called for an armed guard outside every vagina?
Fred ™
January 16th, 2013
1:18 pm
Dang it Granny, I meant to say that I have no problem with any of the rest of those directives. I think they all sound great except the ones I noted.
Brocephus: had I known you were playing hookie I would have tried to get you to go see Django with me. How about tomorrow morning lol?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 16th, 2013
1:18 pm
…their murder…
“Murder” has a legal definition.
Abortion is a legal procedure so therefore it cannot – by definition – be “murder.”
I can understand and respect your feelings about abortion, but you don’t get to make up definitions of words that already exist.
stands for decibels
January 16th, 2013
1:18 pm
Will gun safety be taught in schools?
Why not? If a community thinks it’d be a worthwhile elective to offer, I’m fine with that. If resources from the Feds can make this easier at a local level, all the better.
I’ve snipped the rest of your post, because I don’t thin you’re half as naive as you claim to be about stuff like resource officers and the kind of stuff doctors might ask their patients.
Towncrier
January 16th, 2013
1:19 pm
“See, I have this ‘live and let live’ attitude. As long as people aren’t hurting others, I pretty much say ‘doesn’t affect my world.”
And Jesus did not. You should try it sometime (if you really are a Christian and not a poseur).
“No need to try to control others.”
Talking with others, debating them sometimes and sharing what the Bible says on issues is tantamount to controlling them? If you were a professed atheist rather than a professed Christian, I wouldn’t have spent one second debating about the apostle Paul. There would have been no point.
“Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.” (1 Timothy 4:16)
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 16th, 2013
1:19 pm
Thulsa,
You couldn’t be more incorrect about efficacy of various forms of perimeter security. RB Tec is one of many companies in the business. All this talk about guns relative to exposure to our kids misses the mark by a mile. We have 310,000,000 guns in the country…it’s not practical or probable that any meaningful attempt at further control will protect kids in our schools…The threat of breach is what needs to be addressed..
Real Scootter
January 16th, 2013
1:19 pm
Looks like Fred agrees with me on this.Or I agree with him.(which ever)
Alpharetta Dave
January 16th, 2013
1:19 pm
The ad makes complete sense to me. What is it about the liberal mind that rejects logic? It’s a shame that children need protection, but they do and it’s not just the President’s children but all children. The truth is that most normal people are defenseless and they need protection from the crazies and the criminals in this world. Take away guns and they would use clubs or knives or poison or run over people with automobiles. In fact, more people are killed by drunk drivers than by guns so why aren’t the liberals demanding that we ban or restrict automobiles instead of making it easier to get a drivers license to accomodate illegal aliens. It is now more difficult to attain a a gun permit than it is to get a drivers license in many states.The problem is mental illness and criminals. The political answer is to call it “gun violence” and to ban or to control guns, which does not address the problem..It’s an illusion that this will make us safer, when in fact, it will make us less safe. Tougher law enforcement, harsher pentalties for violent crimes and increased awareness and treatment of mental health – There’s your answer!
stands for decibels
January 16th, 2013
1:20 pm
when will it end? When will skull crushing and dismemberment of an innocent child [sic] stop?
Abortion porn? I think it’ll be with us for as long as there are women-hating religious fundamentalists, but I have no way of knowing.
Fred ™
January 16th, 2013
1:20 pm
LOL Scootter be scared REALLY scared. Our two posts @1:16 were basically the same. If you are thinking like me you should seek help.