The ever-subtle geniuses at the NRA strike again

TBS

January 16th, 2013
11:12 am

“Most of these killers have been young men, and would you like to guess which party thay believe in?”

Just post the substantiated information as to which party.

You do have more than your assertion, correct?

” Uh! voting statistics, hell even Jay can put a chart up about that.

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“Personally, I’d vote for an option that you don’t offer: Zero. ”

The problem with your answer, Jay, is you’re assuming all 10 people are polite, “get along”, sort of people. But, if 1 of the 10 is a Jamie Hood sort of individual, does your answer change at all? How about if there were 10, Jamie Hood is one of them, and now there are only 8 of you left? Are you still sticking to your “none” answer?

That ^^^^^^, Jay, is the real world we live in. Bury your head if you want to, but don’t bury everybody else’s head in the process because you’re unwilling to address the facts of the world around you.

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0311/8541,

You’re welcome…he’s kind of a dullard who trips up easily.

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@Paul10;29 Why take the leap from assault weapons to F-16’s, does that sound rational, where does that get you. It’s legal to own a cannon in Wisconsin..perhaps you can just stop at every citizen havinga howitzer….Shrill and Jay-foolish….

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I know you are, what am i?

HE HA HE HA, sorry, you set yourself up for that one.

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The NRA is nothing but a bunch of shills for the gun industry.

Pure and simple.

They and all who support them have a lot of blood on their hands.

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Aquagirl

January 16th, 2013
11:11 am

I found that particular posters latest asinine in terms of the Hilter refrence but it is true that BO has invited a bunch of school children to share his spotlight today…He is not different than any other politician…optics are most important..why not have Q&A between kids and BO and let them ask him exactly how are they more safe and can we rest assured that these measures will prevent future events…

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@jam: pathetic racial garbage….same old same old stuff,you are encumbered by your mind…

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Paul

January 16th, 2013
11:19 am

Yeah, perhaps when Jesus arrives for his encore, he can heal us all eliminating the need for national healthcare…or healthcare in general…good plan..count me in.

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What are you ladies compensating for with all those shoes? No woman needs more than a couple of pairs of shoes. A pair of stilettos for the bedroom and a pair of boots for the yard work.

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Stumbled on this, wanted to share:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/01/nra-membership-numbers

A source writes in with another strong indication that the NRA’s true size is closer to 3 million. The NRA gives members a free subscription to one of four magazines: American Rifleman, American Hunter, America’s 1st Freedom, or NRA InSights. The first three magazines are audited by the Alliance for Audited Media, which as of July gave them a combined paid circulation (including newsstand sales) of 3.1 million. NRA InSights is an online-only magazine for kids, with a circulation of 25,000. Though some NRA members may opt out of a free magazine, it’s likely that others pay to subscribe to more than one of them. Add in the fact that non-NRA members can pick up the magazines on the newsstand, and the 3.1 million figure is almost certainly an upper-bound for the NRA’s true size.

So, just assume that the size queens at the NRA lie about everything (including its size).

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godless heathen

January 16th, 2013
11:10 am
According to the NRA website, only 13% of women own guns. This statistic is very revealing. Any clue why???

According to Redbook magazine, only 5% of men own more than 5 pairs of shoes. Any clue why?

So Godless-you must be one of the phallic challenged. Thanks for your admission.

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keith

January 16th, 2013
11:22 am

Clearly if you are serious, you were raised in a barn by who knows what…

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Fred ™

January 16th, 2013
10:40 am

DownInAlbany

January 16th, 2013
10:01 am

Jackasses. I would say they probably hate jackasses, the rest of your phony list? I doubt they pay them much mind until the cross over into the jackass category. But then the jackasses don’t seem to be able to see their hypocrisy or jackassery.

It will probably come as no surprise to you, but, what the hell are you talking about?

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you can hear Ozzy Osborne in the background whispering “kill kill kill”.

At least the dad-gummed video isn’t re-playing every time you refresh.

(we can all agree that’s a Good Thing, yes?)

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This is for anyone who questions the intent of the Founding Fathers on the Second Amendment and it purpose.

I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

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“A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves …”
Richard Henry Lee
writing in Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic, Letter XVIII, May, 1788.

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“The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full posession of them.”
Zachariah Johnson
Elliot’s Debates, vol. 3 “The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution.”

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“… the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms”
Philadelphia Federal Gazette
June 18, 1789, Pg. 2, Col. 2
Article on the Bill of Rights

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“And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …”
Samuel Adams
quoted in the Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, “Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State”

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The Founding Fathers on Arms
“Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.”
George Washington
First President of the United States

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“The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them.”
Thomas Paine

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“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”
Richard Henry Lee
American Statesman, 1788

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“The great object is that every man be armed.” and “Everyone who is able may have a gun.”
Patrick Henry
American Patriot

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“Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?”
Patrick Henry
American Patriot

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“Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not.”
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States

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“The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … ”
Thomas Jefferson
letter to Justice John Cartwright, June 5, 1824. ME 16:45.

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“The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.”
Alexander Hamilton
The Federalist Papers at 184-8

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The Founding Fathers on Maintaining Freedom
“The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution.”
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States

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“There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. ”
Noah Webster
American Lexicographer

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“The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.”
Edmund Burke
British Statesman, 1784

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“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.”
Thomas Jefferson
to James Madison

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“They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Ben Franklin
American Statesman

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Later Quotes on Gun Control
“The ruling class doesn’t care about public safety. Having made it very difficult for States and localities to police themselves, having left ordinary citizens with no choice but to protect themselves as best they can, they now try to take our guns away. In fact they blame us and our guns for crime. This is so wrong that it cannot be an honest mistake.”
Malcolm Wallop
former U.S. Sen. (R-WY)

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“An armed man is a citizen. A disarmed man is a subject.”
Anon.
Seen on a bumper sticker

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Pro Gun Control
“Our main agenda is to have all guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn’t matter if you have to distort the facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.”
Sara Brady
Chairman, Handgun Control Inc, to Senator Howard Metzenbaum
The National Educator, January 1994, Page 3.

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obama supporters have far more bloo0d on their hands than the NRA. We dont even know how many Mexicans have been murdered with obamas fast and furious guns. we do know they have murdered Americans. No guns linked to the NRA have killed anyone, cannot say the same of guns linked to barry.

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My children mean as much to me as the president’s children do to him. My child being kidnapped or killed does NOT however, put even a hiccup in the running of our government, put the nation in distress, or put a hold on laws or bills requiring signatures from the president. Every one of you knows this to be true. The NRA and its base are using rhetoric to fire up the base, and those followers are eating it up hook, line and sinker. Columbine had an armed police officer, didn’t help. The NRA needs to be stopped from putting fear in the weak minded to protect a gun industry whose only objective is to populate this country with as many bullets and weapons as possible, for the sake of money. They are using the 2nd Amendment as the justification and I find it disgusting they are allowed to do so.
If you are so concerned with our federal government using tyranny on its citizens, you better buck up more than an AR because that won’t do anything against an F-15. To my knowledge, there isn’t a citizen in this country who has the firepower of our federal government to stop a takeover.
It is time to stop the ridiculous talking points put out by conspiracy theorist and putting fear in the weak. Our children are being murdered by mental nuts that have access to assault rifles. How many guns are not being banned? This discussion needed to happen a long time ago.

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Recon — “When was the last mass killing inside a bank.”

The day-trading f**khead here in Atlanta. The armed bank guards took cover too.

How do I know? My wife worked in that building.

“Geez keep up the stupidity.”

Is it *his* stupidity if YOU are the one that forgot the details?

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moonbat betty

January 16th, 2013
11:18 am

OMG!

If you play the audio of the commercial backward, you can hear Ozzy Osborne in the background whispering “kill kill kill”.
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Too funny. I was at the Jesus store last week with my daughter buying some Adventures in Odyssey CD’s to listen to on the way home from Clear lake. The clerk was bad mouthing the Beeibs and i asked him what was so wrong with the Beibs. He told me (with a straight face) that if you play his stuff backwards it says Kill Jesus 666, just like his mentor’s records, Usher.

I’m about to put some ribs on. 1 hour nekkid (except rub) then 3 hours covered in aluminum (like that clerks head should have been) with some orange juice for moisture, then 30-45 minutes with no foil, covered in sauce. How does that sound? I’m using Jacks for the rub.

QUESTION: instead of apple chips, I found a bag of applewood CHUNKS the same size as the charcoal. Is there a reason NOT to use that along with the charcoal in the egg?

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If Jesus were to return he would have to carry a Bushmaster AR15 to protect him from all the Christian conservatives that would want to kill him for speaking his liberal views. You know like, sticking up for the poor, aka moochers and leeches, speaking out against the rich, aka job creators, and denouncing war, aka shock and awe.

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I remember when the GOP used to be pro-Uncle Sam and tough on crime. And it really wasn’t all that long ago. Right up until the ascension of Saint Ronnie, the Republicans used to love this country..

Now the exact opposite exists.

it is not the GOP calling for the repeal of the constitution. it isnt the GOP calling for the elimination of the debt ceiling.

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Jay

He also endorsed the idea I’ve presented here and elsewhere, suggesting that ” I think maybe there could be some restrictions, that there had to be a certain amount of training taken” before being allowed to buy weapons.

Jay…what would be your “common sense” measures? I’m curious.

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2 Paul, I’ll read it again, ..thanks..

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The NRA and KKK.

Both unwilling to compromise. The KKK is vitually extinct; the NRA is headed in that direction.

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Is there a reason NOT to use that along with the charcoal in the egg?

none i can think of…soak’em good though….next time brine the ribs in OJ for 8-24 hours before hand

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rightwingextreme…thanks for the LONG post of quotes…you forgot to add the asterik to each post and the footnote…”* these rights not granted to women or people of color”

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rightwingextreme 11:25

What they said doesn’t really matter as a matter of law. What Justice Scalia, writing for the majority in District of Columbia v Heller, does. As Jay pointed out in the reprint at 10:29

“Heller was decided almost entirely on the basis of the right to self-defense, with Justice Scalia giving short shrift to the whole idea of a right to armed revolution. Scalia essentially concludes that technology has made the whole concept of a right to armed rebellion an archaic artifact, because “a militia, to be as effective as militias in the 18th century, would require sophisticated arms that are highly unusual in society at large” and that “no amount of small arms could be useful against modern-day bombers and tanks.”

Towncrier 11:25

The fact that you repeatedly come back to talking about issues involving sex, not matter the discussion at hand, not matter how you have to force it in….

well, it tells me you’ve really, really, really, got a serious preoccupation with a lot of unresolved and unfulfilled needs.

If Dial-A-Prayer doesn’t work for you, a therapist might.

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Towncrier — “Good link, Jackie.”

Except for the fact that the errors start in the second paragraph.

The words “well regulated” had a far different meaning at the time the Second Amendment was drafted. In the context of the Constitution’s provisions for Congressional power over certain aspects of the militia, and in the context of the Framers’ definition of “militia,” government regulation was not the intended meaning. Rather, the term meant only what it says, that the necessary militia be well regulated, but not by the national government.

Whenever y’all want to show me some hard evidence that the “militia” of the Second Amendment is somehow different and distinct from the “militia” of Article 1, Section 8 — which Congress has control over — I’ll be all ears.

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stands for decibels

January 16th, 2013
11:32 am

Great use of the obligatory Hilter reference. If you want to mix it up a bit, you can refer to Stalin, Leopold, Early Americans re Native Americans, and a host of other mass murderers…may be a good ticket for you..

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“What’s wrong with these people?” Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough wondered this morning about this new NRA ad, in which a sneering narrator asks “Are the president’s kids more important than yours? Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their schools?” before pointedly referring, in the style of Ernst Blofeld, to a certain Mr. Obama. Well, Joe, here’s the thing: the NRA is the armed wing of a quasi-religious movement of self-obsessed paranoid racists whose gun fetishism is founded on pathological fear of minorities and an abiding belief in ongoing societal collapse, and this ad is a pretty accurate statement of its institutional thought process. So, I guess, what’s wrong with these people is that they’re idiots.

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When was the last mass killing inside a bank. Geez keep up the stupidity.

You do a great job of posting pure clownish stupidity every day Reco. Nice moving the goal posts and deflection. Was your Ftroop boyfriend posting about mass killings in banks? Nope. But you definitely deflect with nonsense.

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Is it true that JohnnyReb is a distant cousin of Timothy McVeigh?

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Is it true that JohnnyReb is a distant cousin of Timothy McVeigh?

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Is there no place left for logic, reason and “common sense”? Of course criminals like easy prey. Of course disarming people makes them easier prey, and of course criminals are no more inclined to obey gun laws than they are to obey other laws, so of course criminals still have guns in all places where law abiding people have been deprived of them. Why is that so difficult for folks to comprehend?

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Is it true that JohnnyReb is a distant cousin of Timothy McVeigh?

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the skinny black guy is actually half white and half black. Remember the sperm donor ran off as soon as Barry hit the floor. It was left to his white family to raise him. Without his white family where would barry be today? he would have grown up on the streets addicted to crack. wait a minute. according to his book he was on crack.
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You should actually read the book rather than mindlessly post your talk radio/FOXBOT lies about it. You wouldn’t look to be so stupid. But then looking stupid by posting lies and something stupid isn’t anything you have ever worried about before is it.

really? what part of my post is a lie? obamas mother isnt white? his father didnt run off when he was born? his white family didnt raise him? he didnt state he enthusiastically used “blow”, which is a street thug term for cocaine? which part of all that is inaccurate? you must be one of those obamabots that are blindly following dear leader without any regard for the facts.

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It simply amazes me at the utter stupidity of some people. I think the add was dead on right. If we can’t protect our children and ourselves, why the hell should that fool and his family have the protection we aren’t allowed to have? I mean if there are no more guns on the street, why would the president or any other government official have a need for armed guards?

Let’s remind you fool’s as to the reasoning behind the “Right to Bare Arms. Idiot’s, it called the “Bill of Rights”. It’s our second amendment. There’s a very important sentence in those rights that states. The Right of the People to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed upon by socialist idiot’s. I added the socialist idiot’s myself. I mean if the shoe fits.

What part of the second amendment don’t you understand? It doesn’t say, we can have gun’s solely for the purpose of putting food on the table. It was put there so that we could defend ourselves against the take over of our government. Which by the way is exactly what that loon and you socialist fool’s are attempting to do. I think it should be perfectly legal for you to own fully automatic weapons. Crap if you can afford one, I see no reason you shouldn’t be able to own a tank or a fighter jet or even a bomber. We are losing our rights a little more every day and one these days the real Americans will have to rise up and take this country back from the people that would destroy it. I’m not talking about some foreign invasion. I talking about an invasion from within.

Hell the Muslims ain’t got to waste their time trying to destroy this country. We’re doing a pretty good job of that ourselves. You don’t want to live in a country that allows it’s citizens to have gun’s, then take your arse to Russia or China. Heck Canada is only a few miles north. Mecca would love to have you.

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Joe Hussein Mama

January 16th, 2013
9:56 am

Oscar, that’s pretty much what I’ve been saying in the 2A discussions around here lately. The “militia” of th 2A is the same as the Congressionally-controlled “militia” of Article 1, Section 8, and if any pro-gun folks want to explain how they’re not, I’m all ears.

TC and myself have given you the Heller decision, the writer of the 2A Mason’s comments on the militia and other founders comments but you just refuse to accept these views and want to stick to the lefts viewpoint. The Majority in Heller said it is an individual right and as such has set the precedence and interpreted the law. If you do not like it the change the Constitution.

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i bet the ajc has armed guards at its building.

They had them at Columbine. Didn’t help them

The answer to gun violence isn’t more guns.

Thats like telling a cancer patient the cure for cancer is more cancer.

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Hey, gun nuts, answer me this: Have you ever seen an Apache helicopter? How about an unmanned drone? Think your AR-15 will have any impact on them? The military can see your body heat through the walls, and they have guns that can fire through those same walls and shred you to pieces; they have chemicals that can melt the skin off your body, and gases that will kill you before you know you’ve inhaled them. If the government really wants to get you, they’re gonna get you. But despite your paranoia, they don’t. This nonsense about protecting against tyranny is absolute nonsense, but most of you NRA types are too freaking stupid (or willfully ignorant) to realize it.

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did i say i wanted to outlaw abortion? no i didnt. actually there should be abortion clinics on every street cornor in san francisco, chicago, detroit, atlanta etc. free of charge. i simply stated the fact that democrats are advocating for sucking the brains out of babies before they are born. absolutely the truth.

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Ok, it’s obviously reasonable for the President to have people protecting him with automatic weapons that Jay wants banned for everyone else. So the question is, where do we draw that line? Just the president? How about congressmen and senators? Governors? Mayors? What about rich celebreties and ballplayers? Anybody who can afford to pay for it? Or is it just for the government – not the governed?

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“Well, it tells me you’ve really, really, really, got a serious preoccupation with a lot of unresolved and unfulfilled needs. If Dial-A-Prayer doesn’t work for you, a therapist might.”

Ah..he resorts to childish humor as a means of deflection (which is a sure sign of defeat). Of course the reason I have focused upon this matter is just what you suggest and NOT that I have a problem with YOU misrepresenting the apostle Paul to scratch your “itching ears”. Jesus called Peter Satan when he opposed God’s expressed purpose. But you are bewildered as to why I would call you out on this (in my view) critical misrepresentation of Paul. If Paul has personal problems that cause him to say unwarranted or untrue things, then he is not to be trusted. If he is not to be trusted, then who in the NT is (since Paul wrote the bulk of the NT)? If no one is to be trusted, then why not toss the Bible into the garbage and do just this one thing recommended by Paul for those who don’t believe: “Eat, drink and be merry – for tomorrow we die.”

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The answer to gun violence isn’t more guns.

Thats like telling a cancer patient the cure for cancer is more cancer.

reminds me of this…

http://www.theonion.com/articles/gorilla-sales-skyrocket-after-latest-gorilla-attac,30860/

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Eventually we will have tough gun laws in this country with real teeth. The violence wont stop but it will be reduced dramatically.

Its just a matter of how long the Republican hillbillies, low education voter types, who are easily fooled by the NRA ( Gun Industry ) can drag their heels.

Unfortunately more people will have to die needlessly in the meantime.

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Hey, gun nuts, answer me this: Have you ever seen an Apache helicopter? How about an unmanned drone? Think your AR-15 will have any impact on them? The military can see your body heat through the walls, and they have guns that can fire through those same walls and shred you to pieces; they have chemicals that can melt the skin off your body, and gases that will kill you before you know you’ve inhaled them. If the government really wants to get you, they’re gonna get you. But despite your paranoia, they don’t. This nonsense about protecting against tyranny is absolute nonsense, but most of you NRA types are too freaking stupid (or willfully ignorant) to realize it.

and the left is so stupid that they really think the operators of those drones and apache helicoptors would fire on their fellow citizens if they ordered them to do so. why would they kill their friends and families just because some leftwing dictator told them to? are you for real???

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“the reasoning behind the “Right to Bare Arms. ”

Tony– especially if you live in the hot and humid South! I always Bare my Arms in the summertime! LOL!

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i simply stated the fact that democrats are advocating for sucking the brains out of babies before they are born. absolutely the truth.

Ok, since you went there–you do realize that by banning intact D&E, (aka “sucking the brains…” etc.), you require the doc to literally cut the fetus into pieces inside the womb prior to extraction, as the only alternative.

So by your brilliant logic, “republicans are advocating for cutting babies to pieces before they are born” is a truthful statement.

Just so you know.

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