Most gun owners far more reasonable than the NRA
Judging from the results of a new ABC News/Washington Post poll, a wide spectrum of Americans of both parties has reached consensus on the need for specific, common-sense actions to reduce the death toll taken by guns without intruding on Second Amendment rights granted under the Constitution.
The question is, how much power does an angry, paranoid and politically aggressive minority still wield over gun policy in this country? I suspect that we’re going to find that it’s an awful lot. The NRA’s grip on Washington is so strong that we can’t even get a director confirmed to head the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the agency tasked with enforcing federal gun laws. The ATF has gone leaderless since 2006, because under President Bush and now President Obama, Senate Republicans have refused to even allow a vote on the nomination.
You want another example? The ATF is forbidden by federal law to create a computer database allowing its agents to trace ownership of guns used in a crime. The search has to be done manually, in a time-eating process of phone call after phone call, and sifting through boxes of paper records. That’s because in its infinite paranoia, the NRA insists that a computerized system would violate the Second Amendment by making it easier for the government to go door to door, confiscating the 180 million weapons estimated to be in private hands.
Seriously, they think that’s going to happen.
According to the ABC/WaPo poll, most Americans don’t put much credence in that fantasy. It found that 71 percent of Americans support creation of a national gun database. That includes 61 percent of Republicans.
In addition, 65 percent of Americans — including 59 percent of Republicans — say they support a ban on magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition. Seventy-six percent would require a background check before a person is allowed to purchase ammunition, a figure that includes 69 percent of Republicans.
That strong bipartisan consensus breaks down only on the issue of a ban on assault weapons. Overall, 58 percent of Americans and 54 percent of independents would support such a ban, but only 45 percent of Republicans would do so.
But the most telling data in the poll involves the 44 percent of those surveyed who live in a home where guns are kept. Of that subset, 86 percent would support closing the “gun-show” loophole on background checks. Seventy-six percent of gun owners endorse a background check for ammo sales; 62 percent would back a national firearms database, and 55 percent support a ban on large-capacity magazines.
Such numbers confirm that gun owners, as a rule, are far more reasonable about common-sense approaches to gun safety than is the extremist organization that purports to represent their interests. But in the end, I’m not confident that will matter much.
– Jay Bookman
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Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:25 pm
If Cynthia Tucker hadn’t been fired from the AJC she’d have probably wanted to release data of gun owners.
Christian Conservative
January 15th, 2013
3:26 pm
Paul:
Lets get to the point Paul. Dems want to ban guns. All guns… Lets just be honest… So yes this is part of the conversation…
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:26 pm
“The term “Gun nut” has been used to describe firearms enthusiasts who are deeply involved with the gun culture.”
I prefer the term “gun enthusiast.”
Stevie Ray
January 15th, 2013
3:26 pm
Paul
January 15th, 2013
3:23 pm
Well seeing as how all Ive been doing most of the day is shouting that none of these political worthless efforts will remotely reduce exposure to more shootings, it would be poor form for me to state otherwise…there you have been opined. The Christian often amazes me albeit in puzzling ways.
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:27 pm
“Dems want to ban guns. All guns”
Of course they do until they run for re-election.
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:27 pm
“Is this where I get me a huntin license?” – John F. Kerry.
Morality?
January 15th, 2013
3:27 pm
Indigo – Most of your “logic” is what I call silly logic because it’s – well – silly. That doesn’t mean that I don’t like you. There are a number of laws on the Fed books that Obama has ordered law enforcement (fed) to ignore and “pot” laws are one of them. That has been reported in your AJC more than once. I don’t write it down – sorry. Go to google AJC Obama pot and see what you find. Then rule out the part where Obama admitted to experimenting with illegal drugs like weed and cocaine and others. You will eventually find where he told the fed to ignore the federal law that makes POT illegal nation wide. As you know – Fed law over rides state law – such as passed in California. He told fed to turn a blind eye to this illegal activity and not to prosecute sellers of pot. That is one problem I have with Obama. He put his hand on the Bible and lied under oath when he said that he would uphold and enforce the laws of this land.
TaxPayer
January 15th, 2013
3:28 pm
Proof please.
It relies on a lot of unskewed polling data.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 15th, 2013
3:29 pm
Towncrier — “Armed revolt is either justified (in certain circumstances) or it is not. If it is not, then the existence of the USA is not justified. If you think “clear standards” are necessary to justify such a revolt, please point me to those published and agreed upon by our founding fathers prior to their revolt (apart form the Declaration of Independence: “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government”).”
You misunderstand, and deeply so. The Declaration does not confer rights and is not the foundation of law in this country. And the Revolutionary War was in no way conditioned on the Constitution and Bill of Rights, which didn’t follow for over 10 years after the Revolution was declared.
Besides, *you* are the one asserting a right of revolution, are you not? Given that, *you* should be the one to show the standards used to determine when ‘tyranny’ has grown to be intolerable and therefore, when violent overthrow and revolution may therefore be lawfully engaged.
It’s a much more compact argument to say that revolution is a *duty* in the event of tyranny, but that no Constitutional right exists to support it or to defend those charged with armed insurrection or with attempting/conspiring to overthrow the US government by force.
Just as an aside, when I was tapped for the White House Communications Agency, part of the initial consideration process was sworn statement that I had never engaged in or conspired to engage in the violent overthrow of the US government. If there were such a Constitutional right, then surely such an affidavit wouldn’t be needed, yes?
“Unless you are willing to argue that the Constitution supercedes and negates everything said in the DoI, then I think it is very hard to argue that a right to revolt against tyranny is not implied by the 2nd Amendment.”
The Declaration is a beautiful and timeless document, to be sure, but it has no force of law whatsoever in this country. Therefore, there’s nothing to be negated or superceded. It’s no more a legal document than any of the Federalist Papers.
And again, the *implication* of a right is something that’s very, very hard to argue. Consider the implied right to privacy, on which the right to abortion is predicated. Knowing your personal views on abortion, I feel certain that you’d look with a most critical eye on *my* arguments in favor of those two rights, were we to discuss them here. In view of that, let’s simply agree that the defense of implied rights is a difficult task at best, and perhaps one left for those more skilled than us at the practice of the law.
I have to run, JHM, but thanks for the debate.
And I thank you as well, sir.
JamVet
January 15th, 2013
3:30 pm
Sockpuppet. you are entertaining.
But trying to come across as informed, intelligent or even relevant?
Sorry, it isn’t working for you.
Go back to what you are best at – straight ahead trolling…
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:30 pm
“It relies on a lot of unskewed polling data.”
In other words, you’re full of crap.
Morality?
January 15th, 2013
3:31 pm
The woods are littered with gun totting anti gun people like the Hollywierd elite. Just ask that harpy Rosie O’Donnell.
td
January 15th, 2013
3:31 pm
Jay
January 15th, 2013
3:15 pm
“For the record, I thought publishing that map was a stupid stunt by the newspaper.”
Well dang. I was really wanting to see if all your progressive minions on this board would come and try to save you when you were tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail after you posted a similar list in Georgia. jk
Aquagirl
January 15th, 2013
3:31 pm
And comedy goes straight over the heads of the left. They just don’t understand sarcasm.
We do, but sarcasm isn’t usually used to undermine your own argument. So yes, I am confused why spellcheck would parody an NRA statement.
Jay
January 15th, 2013
3:32 pm
“A stunt that could have resulted in someone being killed.”
I see spellcheck agrees that knowledge of a gun’s presence can attract criminals.
Paul
January 15th, 2013
3:32 pm
“Lets get to the point Paul. Dems want to ban guns. All guns… Lets just be honest… So yes this is part of the conversation…”
And Christian Conservative officially jumps the shark!
Game, set and match.
Unless you have, say, a cite from VP Biden’s recommendations to Pres Obama that supports your point?
Maybe something from Sen Joe Manchin?
Or… is it 5 o’clock somewhere? A couple hours ago?
Christian Conservative
January 15th, 2013
3:33 pm
Paul:
My question to him was ” how anything the Administration proposed would make it not possible to have a gun in one’s home?”
An assault weapons ban. That would keep you from it if that’s what kind of weapon you prefer.
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:33 pm
“I see spellcheck agrees that knowledge of a gun’s presence can attract criminals.”
Never said it didnt’.
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:34 pm
“So yes, I am confused why spellcheck would parody an NRA statement.”
Confused is your middle name.
Paul
January 15th, 2013
3:35 pm
Stevie Ray
It is a diverse and entertaining forum, isn’t it?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 15th, 2013
3:35 pm
Q: How many NRA members does it take to change a light bulb?
A: No members, but MOAR GUNZ!
TBS
January 15th, 2013
3:35 pm
Too funny…………………
Later, as governor in 2004, Romney signed a permanent assault weapons ban into law in Massachusetts. That included guns like the AR-15, which was one of the weapons used by suspected gunman James Holmes in the Colorado theater shooting.
“I believe the people should have the right to bear arms, but I don’t believe that we have to have assault weapons as part of our personal arsenal,” he said on Fox News in 2004.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/mitt-romney-gun-conrol-nra-assault-weapons-colorado-shooting-theater-2012-7#ixzz2I4vfOhrK
Morality?
January 15th, 2013
3:36 pm
The REAL reason Obama and the Dems are after gun holders and the gun industry? Most of them don’t TRUST the gub’ment to be there when they need them – which they won’t and most of them did not vote DEM and Obama – and most of them did not send lobbyists with pockets full of money to shower the Dems and Obama with. Each side has their supporters and causes and they “gift” their supporters (financially) and punish their non supporters. Nothing new here.
stands for decibels
January 15th, 2013
3:36 pm
Lets get to the point Paul. Dems want to ban guns. All guns
this is where the old trick of using the plural form of a noun allows one to make weaselly crafted statements.
Paul is, of course, calling out this silliness @ 3.32. However, one can probably search and find two (2) self-identifying Democrats, somewhere, who literally want to “ban guns. All guns” — and thus, it’s somehow not a lie to say it.
Pretty lame rhetorical device, and it’s used a lot on AM talk radio.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 15th, 2013
3:37 pm
Has a single person here all day mentioned the fact that all of Obama’s attempts to ramp up gun legislation will fail without getting at the root of the most festering social diseases and disorders in our culture: inequality and struggle between social classes?
I bet not a single person has mentioned that all day, including Jay Bookman.
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:37 pm
Morality? hits the nail on the head.
Paul
January 15th, 2013
3:42 pm
Christian Conservative
[[My question to him was ” how anything the Administration proposed would make it not possible to have a gun in one’s home?”
An assault weapons ban. That would keep you from it if that’s what kind of weapon you prefer.]]
Ahh… so not having access to an assault weapon (careful, Spellcheck’s gonna take up your time demanding to know what an assault weapon is) means you can’t defend your home because if you can’t buy your weapon of choice, you can’t buy anything?
Just…. wow…….
Wait… wait…. I get it…. you won’t be able to buy a handgun or a shotgun or a musket either, because Democrats want to ban them too, right?
sam
January 15th, 2013
3:42 pm
the NRA is a lobbying organization speaking for manufacturers and dealers not gun owners. i own several guns (no assault weapons), the NRA does not speak for me.
Doggone/GA
January 15th, 2013
3:43 pm
“Lets get to the point Paul. Dems want to ban guns. All guns… Lets just be honest…”
Telling a flat out lie hardly qualifies as “honest”
Stevie Ray
January 15th, 2013
3:43 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
January 15th, 2013
3:37 pm
So what do you propose? I’m curious about social disease and class on class struggle…
Krystal'sBalls
January 15th, 2013
3:46 pm
@Jay
January 15th, 2013
3:15 pm
That is one thing that burned me up and is one of the “crackpot” perspectives that unfortunately comes from those on the “left” (which I myself most likely identify with by the way, while not hard left). I think it is a TOTALLY IDIOTIC position to think it to be even halfway reasonable to make it public knowledge as to exactly WHO has legal firearms purchased and filed on a BATF form at a specific address whether it be through Google maps, and app or whatever. It makes your home a TARGET when you are not there! And yes, criminals will put in the time to stake out your place and track your movements if they think the score will be huge. So again, one example of lunacy on both sides of the issue, driven by emotion and irrationality.
td
January 15th, 2013
3:46 pm
NRA: Membership Has Grown by 250,000 in One Month.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/01/15/nra-membership-has-grown-by-250000-in-one-month
Stevie Ray
January 15th, 2013
3:46 pm
Paul
January 15th, 2013
3:42 pm
For those convinced that they are a superior target of home invasion that the rest of us, how about a nice, quiet angry Rottweiler..or Pit? Upkeep is expensive but it’s doubtful anyone will break in to steal your dog..
Adam
January 15th, 2013
3:46 pm
So you can’t answer the question.
Don’t worry about him. He’s new at this.
“Ha ha, ha ha, you won’t answer my questionnnnn! *sing songy*”
TaxPayer
January 15th, 2013
3:46 pm
In other words, you’re full of crap.
I got the results straight from Karl Rove.
moonbat betty
January 15th, 2013
3:47 pm
“So what do you propose? I’m curious about social disease and class on class struggle…”
One Class, One World.
All you have to do is legalize the ganji.
stands for decibels
January 15th, 2013
3:47 pm
the NRA is a lobbying organization speaking for manufacturers and dealers not gun owners.
Well, it does claim to have ~4 million members. But that still doesn’t excuse the kind of cowardice shown by elected officials over the past several decades, who haven’t had the courage to tell this organization to stick their objections to sensible regulations where the sun don’t shine.
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:48 pm
“Telling a flat out lie hardly qualifies as “honest””
That sums up Ada and Taxpayer.
moonbat betty
January 15th, 2013
3:49 pm
If they legalize the gangi, all the guns could be converted into pipes and bongs.
JamVet
January 15th, 2013
3:50 pm
NRA: Membership Has Grown by 250,000 in One Month.
Reminds me a whole lot of:
KKK Membership Up Since Obama Election
Not unexpectedly, KKK membership is up since Barack Obama’s win. Former Imperial Wizard Johnny Lee Clary, now an outspoken critic of the Klan, said the difficult economic times and Obama’s win both contribute to a rise in Klan membership.
At a recent rally in Alabama, 300 people signed up. Clary called that “unprecedented.”
“They (KKK) actually sent me an email just the other day and were telling me that Barack Obama was the best thing that ever happened to them and they’re excited and happy because their membership is growing larger than it ever has,” Clary said.
Clary said that in these economic times the Klan finds “the poor, the miserable, the down and out” as easy targets for recruitment.
Birds of an ODS feather…
Stevie Ray
January 15th, 2013
3:50 pm
ADAM
Seems to me that most here act just like politicians…they answer only the questions they wish you’d ask…
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:50 pm
“But that still doesn’t excuse the kind of cowardice shown by elected officials ”
There are many members from both sides of the aisle.
OBIWAN
January 15th, 2013
3:51 pm
Cars kill more people than guns, lets ban cars!
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:51 pm
“At a recent rally in Alabama, 300 people signed up.”
That’s really not that many people compared to 200,000. Guess math isn’t something the left is good at after all.
TaxPayer
January 15th, 2013
3:51 pm
Republicans don’t do math or science but hey, I’m just the messenger.
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:52 pm
“Birds of an ODS feather…”
I love people who struggle to make an argument. It really is sad to see someone compare NRA members to those of the KKK.
JamVet
January 15th, 2013
3:52 pm
Spellcheckkk, do you come from a long line of white supremacists?
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:52 pm
think progress.
There’s your sign.
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:53 pm
“Spellcheckkk, do you come from a long line of white supremacists?
Jay, can you take care of this?
Thanks
Paul
January 15th, 2013
3:53 pm
Stevie Ray 3:46
I remember reading remarks from a chief of police during the Vietnam riots. Said if confronted with a bunch of angry demonstrators, he’d rather that 3 officers with dogs than 50 officers without.
Taxpayer
[[In other words, you’re full of crap.
I got the results straight from Karl Rove.}
Karl Rove? Well, like he said…..
Christian Conservative
January 15th, 2013
3:53 pm
Paul:
I guess easily proving you to be wrong is still not accepted. How about ammunition? Perhaps they will tax them to the gills so the average person can’t afford them….
TaxPayer
January 15th, 2013
3:54 pm
Perhaps spellcheck could provide an “outliar” (a special version of the standard form) via a demonstration of his or her mathematical and scientific skillset.
stands for decibels
January 15th, 2013
3:54 pm
All you have to do is legalize the ganji.
Just 48 states to go.
Doggone/GA
January 15th, 2013
3:54 pm
“Cars kill more people than guns, lets ban cars!”
How many guns do cars kill?
JamVet
January 15th, 2013
3:55 pm
Ahhhhhh, meat got his fee fees hurt….
This is a rough crowd, meat!
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:55 pm
“Just 48 states to go.”
Or is it 56?
Christian Conservative
January 15th, 2013
3:56 pm
Paul:
Again lets debate this simple question. Why not ban handguns? They are used for the overwhelmingly for murders. No lib on here seems to want to answer this or even talk about it….
Stevie Ray
January 15th, 2013
3:56 pm
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:48 pm
As long as honesty is defined by who is on which side, you are a big silly to suggest that concept has any play here…
The other annoying political word IMO is “look”..as in “look, i’m being honest…” or look, getting lobbyist out of DC is a must..” it helps to stutter a bit before introducing a sentence with that word..
Kinda like when some one says “to be honest with you..blah blah blah…” why is that caveat necessary? I guess that policy is now the exception than the rule
Just kidding…kinda
Paul
January 15th, 2013
3:56 pm
Christian Conservative
“I guess easily proving you to be wrong is still not accepted.”
You did that when? Waitadadgumminnit…. was it ME who said Democrats want to ban all guns? By golly, I can’t even keep up with what my fingers are typing.
JamVet
January 15th, 2013
3:56 pm
And how many cars do guns kill, Doggone?
I remember an old 1979 Chevy that I wanted to shoot!
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:56 pm
“Ahhhhhh, meat got his fee fees hurt….”
No, I just don’t get into pissing matches with lunatic left wingers like you. I’ll let Jay deal with you.
stands for decibels
January 15th, 2013
3:56 pm
Or is it 56?
57-2 = 55.
(you’re welcome.)
Christian Conservative
January 15th, 2013
3:57 pm
Oh we got to ban all guns!!!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/15/2-reported-shot-at-st-louis-business-school/
stands for decibels
January 15th, 2013
3:57 pm
a demonstration of his or her mathematical and scientific skillset.
See the post @ 3.55.
JamVet
January 15th, 2013
3:58 pm
Why not ban handguns?
Indeed, Lynyrd Skynyrd suggested it…
Hand guns are made for killin’
Ain’t no good for nothin’ else
And if you like your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself
So why don’t we dump ‘em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me
Stevie Ray
January 15th, 2013
3:59 pm
ADAM
You’d be interested to know that one of the most effective deterrents to home invasion is to possess a gaggle of geese…many folks in rural areas or otherwise large landowners do well to simply have geese on property. They make more noise that a pack of wolves..
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
3:59 pm
” Lynyrd Skynyrd suggested it
Skynard died in a plane crash. Lets ban planes.
Doggone/GA
January 15th, 2013
3:59 pm
“I remember an old 1979 Chevy that I wanted to shoot!”
No, no…that would be gun killing a car!
stands for decibels
January 15th, 2013
4:00 pm
JamVet, Skynyrd were a lot more enlightened then most people credit.
/drive-by
Krystal'sBalls
January 15th, 2013
4:00 pm
@Welcome to the Occupation
January 15th, 2013
3:37 pm
To do that gets you accused of playing “the race card”, because those inequalities have embedded within them historically and in present day tense racial/ethnic components, and to a large degree. That right there is at the very heart of what ails most of the U.S. You will however in your lifetime I believe NOT get an open honest discussion on those issues. We’d rather numb our pain and live in denial, just like a “junky” does.
Doggone/GA
January 15th, 2013
4:00 pm
oops! misread that one!
TaxPayer
January 15th, 2013
4:01 pm
Well, there was this one car.
Stevie Ray
January 15th, 2013
4:02 pm
So I see it coming…this will be like the man made global warming debate…ie everytime we have a blip of hot weather, the believers get all puffy chested and claim…”see you idiot deniers, we were right… despite the multi hundred year trend that is being sold to us. Difference here is that anytime someone is shot, many will allude back to the ineffective gun law changes as being just that…ineffective..
Paul
January 15th, 2013
4:02 pm
Christian Conservative
“Again lets debate this simple question. Why not ban handguns?”
Why? It’s nowhere on the horizon. Not even thought of. You’re the only one proposing it. Or at least saying Democrats want to do it. Which you’ve been called out on.
“No lib on here seems to want to answer this or even talk about it….”
But… if you really, really, really want to play:
Sigh…. maybe ‘libs’ are just a tad more informed than you?
Because it’d be in violation of District of Columbia v Heller.
Adam
January 15th, 2013
4:02 pm
Stevie Ray: LOL at both of your last posts.
I so need a gaggle of geese protecting my house. It would be a great conversation starter.
And yeah a lot of people here do that politicians’ answer the question thing. But so many also do the “ask the question that has no relevance” thing too.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 15th, 2013
4:02 pm
Why do so many people advertise their gun ownership with NRA logos, “insured by Smith & Wesson” stickers, and suchlike?
The same point that I made a couple of months ago next door at Kyle’s. I was informed that I didn’t know the meaning of the word “deterrence.”
Seems to me it’s an invitation to come at you with deadly force
Peadawg
January 15th, 2013
4:03 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/15/2-reported-shot-at-st-louis-business-school/
Lock these crazies up! My goodness.
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
4:03 pm
“Seems to me it’s an invitation to come at you with deadly force”
Doubt it. Most car jackings happen to people who aren’t really paying attention to their surroundings.
Jm
January 15th, 2013
4:04 pm
hilarious
libs blowing up
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/01/krugman-stewart-in-trilliondollar-coin-tiff-154234.html?hp=r11
Peadawg
January 15th, 2013
4:04 pm
“Why do so many people advertise their gun ownership with NRA logos, “insured by Smith & Wesson” stickers, and suchlike?”
Don’t you think a “bad guy” would looove to know who’s packing and who isn’t? It’d sure make it easier for them to know who doesn’t won a gun.
Peadawg
January 15th, 2013
4:05 pm
own*
Christian Conservative
January 15th, 2013
4:06 pm
Paul
You did that when? Waitadadgumminnit…. was it ME who said Democrats want to ban all guns? By golly, I can’t even keep up with what my fingers are typing.
Ok Paul.. Lets take this slow so you can easily understand. Its an assumption that dems want to ban all guns… Listen to the top leaders. Feinstein and the like… But I did prove you wrong about an assault weapons ban… If assault weapons are banned and it is your preferred weapon then you couldn’t protect yourself as you see fit.
Check Mate!!!
Adam
January 15th, 2013
4:08 pm
Jm: That sh*t WAS hilarious.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 15th, 2013
4:08 pm
Doubt it.
Keith Ratliffe says, “What?”
That Black Guy
January 15th, 2013
4:09 pm
Adam
January 15th, 2013
1:32 pm
What we CAN show is that reducing gun availability ON A NATIONAL LEVEL (border controls, people) reduces crimes committed by guns.
______________________________
Has a crime ever been comitted by a gun?
How much time did the gun serve?
Since the gun is a convicted criminal, is it prohibited from owning a gun?
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
4:09 pm
The fact that libs think a trillion dollar coin was a good idea proves how dumb they are when it comes to anything related to money.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 15th, 2013
4:10 pm
C. Conservative — “Its an assumption that dems want to ban all guns”
And it’s a bad assumption, too. Why would I want to ban something I own?
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
4:10 pm
“Since the gun is a convicted criminal, is it prohibited from owning a gun?
It’s prohibited from owning a man.
That Black Guy
January 15th, 2013
4:10 pm
Adam
January 15th, 2013
1:28 pm
Name me ONE long distance efficient lethal and legal weapon that isn’t a gun. GO.
_____________________
Define “long distance”
TaxPayer
January 15th, 2013
4:10 pm
Check Mate!!!
You can’t use that move in checkers, CC.
Christian Conservative
January 15th, 2013
4:11 pm
Paul:
But but but Paul. If we really want to curtail gun related murders shouldn’t we get to the root of the problem???? Handguns……
Paul
January 15th, 2013
4:11 pm
” Its an assumption that dems want to ban all guns”
NOW it’s an assumption?
Nice backpedal.
When did Feinstein say she wanted to ban all guns?
You proved me wrong by saying “Dems want to ban all guns” then saying that meant “since they want to ban assault weapons I won’t be able to defend my home because I want to use an assault weapon to do it”?!!? THAT proves ME wrong by questioning your saying Dems want to ban all guns?
Y’know, CC, if you’re not drunk or high, it really doesn’t bode well for you…..
Hey! You wanna propose any more laws in violation of recent Supreme Court decisions?
Slick
January 15th, 2013
4:12 pm
An assault weapon ban will do little to save lives. The majority of shootings and violent crimes are committed with handguns. We banned assault weapons and mag capacities before and Columbine happened. Va Tech massacre – yeah that was handguns. Liquor store stickups? Handguns. Muggings? Not too many muggers walking around with AR’s. But whatever. It will make some of you feel better just like the Patriot Act – but that’s a topic for another day. I’ll just remind you of the old adage – if you give up freedom in order to gain security you’ll end up with neither.
Christian Conservative
January 15th, 2013
4:12 pm
Joe Hussein Mama:
So you own an assault weapon? I do. Just purchased one. So why would I want them banned?
Adam
January 15th, 2013
4:13 pm
That Black Guy: Has a crime ever been comitted by a gun?
Fine, WITH guns, semantic Nazi
Adam
January 15th, 2013
4:14 pm
TBG: Define “long distance”
As close as you would have to be, but still be well out of arm’s reach, to effectively hit a target with a handgun.
Christian Conservative
January 15th, 2013
4:14 pm
Slick:
Libs are notorious for knee jerk reactions. I’m wondering why they haven’t banned hurricanes….
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
4:14 pm
“So you own an assault weapon?”
What is an assault weapon?
Adam
January 15th, 2013
4:14 pm
TBG: Define “long distance”
And don’t forget my other qualifiers.
Long distance
Efficiency
Lethal
Legal
Use Spellcheck please
January 15th, 2013
4:15 pm
If someone owns a gun but said person never assaults anyone is it still considered an assault weapon?