On Ashley Judd, $1 trillion coins and other matters of import

I see where Kentucky-born movie star Ashley Judd continues to talk about running for the U.S. Senate against Mitch McConnell. McConnell may be in a bit of political trouble, and as Al Franken has demonstrated, it is quite possible for a Hollywood celebrity to perform credibly in the Senate. But Minnesota ain’t Kentucky, and in this case, Judd has as much chance of becoming a U.S. senator as McConnell has of being a Hollywood leading man.

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Cyclist Lance Armstrong is scheduled to appear next week on Oprah, where he may finally, publicly confess to years of performance-enhancing drug use on the way to seven Tour de France titles, all of which have been stripped from him.

Armstrong Livestrong CyclingThe American people will supposedly forgive almost anything after a public confession, and Oprah has become our culture’s official Mother Confessor. But all the tears from all the crocodiles on the planet won’t wash away the stain on Armstrong’s reputation.

Set aside, for the moment, his use of performance-enhancing drugs and his supposedly heart-felt, offended claims of innocence. By multiple, multiple accounts, Armstrong conducted himself like a first-class, egotistical jerk throughout this entire scandal. He fooled the naive and gullible into vouching for his honesty, he strong-armed teammates into joining him in drug use, he intimidated others into silence and he conducted a decade-long campaign to ruin anybody who threatened to reveal him as he truly is, which is a self-centered, arrogant bully.

So please, Lance, spare us the dramatics and groveling. Live strong, dude.

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Speaking of cheating, arrogant, self-centered bullies,  neither Barry Bonds nor Roger Clemens got enough votes this week to be elected into the Baseball Hall of Fame. I don’t have much sympathy for those guys, and if they never get in the hall, that would be fine with me.

But let’s at least be honest with ourselves. Everybody in baseball — casual fans, baseball writers, managers, agents, the players’ union, broadcasters, team owners and MLB executives such as Bud Selig included — all knew what was going on in the steroid era, and we pretended otherwise. When punch-and-judy second basemen suddenly turn into 50-homer sluggers, and when baseball records that have lasted for decades get obliterated by multiple players, it ain’t natural and we all knew it at the time. But it was selling tickets and raising TV ratings and it was FUN! Even chicks dig the long ball, right?

The baseball establishment now seems to believe that by casting all the blame on prominent scapegoats such as Clemens and Bonds, it can expunge itself of its own guilt for that era, and it cannot and should not.

I think Bud Selig should schedule a session with Oprah.

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Finally, in the stupid-government-tricks department, there’s the $1 trillion platinum coin. According to proponents of the idea, some of them pretty prominent (see here and here and here, among others), an odd provision in federal law would allow the U.S. Treasury Department to create a coin, made out of platinum, in a $1 trillion denomination. Federal assets would suddenly increase by $1 trillion, meaning the U.S. government would no longer be running up against its congressionally imposed debt ceiling.

Voila! Problem solved!

Look, the entire debt-ceiling debate is inherently silly. I get that. Congress has voted to spend trillions and borrow trillions, and it’s totally ridiculous to pretend that it can now refuse to pay that money back, which is what it would do by refusing to raise the debt ceiling. Given all that, solving a silly, make-believe problem with a silly, make-believe coin apparently has some appeal to otherwise serious people.

But this is clown-car politics beneath the dignity of the United States of America. It also would dynamite what little credibility the governing process in this country might still retain, and it’s a mark of our decline that such a concept would even be broached.

– Jay Bookman

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Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 10th, 2013
5:09 pm

Almost two weeks after a shooting spree stunned Australia in 1996, leaving 35 people dead at the Port Arthur tourist spot in Tasmania, the government issued sweeping reforms of the country’s gun laws.

There hasn’t been a mass shooting since.

barking frog

January 10th, 2013
5:09 pm

Keep Up
Frog, again you need to improve your reading skills and you are moving goalposts. I have never said anything about banning all guns. Heller dealt with HANDGUNS. Heller says DC cannot absolutely prohibit handgun ownership. You quoted the language and then jumped the shark into some idiot NRA style overreach.

I’ll take your concession.
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What are you talking about? This discussion began with the right to keep
and bear arms preceding the constitution. Do you think I am saying that the
government has no control over firearms ? or other arms ?

Paul

January 10th, 2013
5:10 pm

Bob

” That does not mean we will not incur new debt, it means we are being lied to when someone says we can’t cover current debt obligations unless the debt limit is raised. The debt limit just allows for new debt and has nothing to do with debt incurred already.”

Gov’t sells bonds to finance debt. Ordinary people buy bonds. Interest is paid on those bonds. Don’t you think that having a past debt instrument (financed under the old debt ceiling limits) then having to pay interest //with funds not from tax receipts but from borrowing// will affect new debt?

TBS

January 10th, 2013
5:11 pm

“There is more DUI’s now than ever, which means there are more drunks on the road.”

Is that necessarily true? Does the fact the the legal limit being lowered have anything to do with increased DUI #s?

Erwin's cat

January 10th, 2013
5:11 pm

Grits – People get murder w/o guns every day

It’s the people stupid

TaxPayer

January 10th, 2013
5:12 pm

The law does not have to remove every single DUI offender from the road in order for it to reduce DUI offenses or deaths caused by DUI’s. Further, there are more changes than simply a DUI law at work to reduce DUI offenses and their negative impact. These are multi-variable issues with multi-variable solutions and the lump sum effects are what count–not some isolated variable at some given point in time.

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 10th, 2013
5:13 pm

The only time the law gets a drunk off the road is around the 3rd or 4th DUI…

Dead wrong.

The penalties for the first offense are very very severe. And getting tougher each year.

Yes there will be the nut who gets 17 of them

But for most people these days 1 is enough.

This is why the Death tolls have dropped dramatically.

Paul

January 10th, 2013
5:13 pm

Wait a minute

“just wouldn’t be able to spend any more than it collects.”

That’s no problem?

Fine.

Tell us how to cut federal spending by 40 percent.

Today.

You just indicated it’s no big deal.

Put up before you change your moniker again, okay?

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

January 10th, 2013
5:13 pm

The only drunks are here on this blog! oy vey!

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There hasn’t been a mass shooting since.

that’s cause Aussies are Wussies Cheesy!

It ain’t easy being Cheesy is it?

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 10th, 2013
5:13 pm

Just cut defense, Medicare, SS, and other entitleyments by about 1/3 and we are there. It can be done.

What a nut! I got a confession to make. I been drawing SS and getting covered by Medicare for the past four years, and it’s Sweeeeeeet! Matter of fact they even raise my SS every year when a current income year kicks out a low income year. I don’t know how I’d make it if I had to live on my salary alone. And there’s plenty more out there just like me.

So keep yo mouth shut, Wait a Minute. Mind your own business. I say let the people out there think that all the older folks are barely getting by on their measly SS.

TaxPayer

January 10th, 2013
5:14 pm

The next thing you know, some con will claim that global warming is not happening because it was cooler today than yesterday (although it wasn’t but that’s beside the point). The longer term trends tell the story–not short-term fluctuations.

Erwin's cat

January 10th, 2013
5:14 pm

Is that necessarily true? Does the fact the the legal limit being lowered have anything to do with increased DUI #s?

maybe…but my point is tougher DUI laws have removed very few drunks from the road. It has turned into a cash cow for the municipalities but has done little to make the roads safer

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

January 10th, 2013
5:16 pm

Cat: Grits – People get murder w/o guns every day. It’s the people stupid

Correct again Cat!!

Guns don’t kill people!! People WITH Guns kill people!!

Its so simple — I don’t understand WHY Cheesy can’t get it! :roll:

Jay

January 10th, 2013
5:17 pm

“but my point is tougher DUI laws have removed very few drunks from the road.

And your evidence for that would be?

Erwin's cat

January 10th, 2013
5:17 pm

not short-term fluctuations.

how do you define short term in a millionion of weather?

TBS

January 10th, 2013
5:17 pm

EC

Agree, but not sure if there is a definitive way to say there are “more drunks” on the road or however you phrased it.

getalife

January 10th, 2013
5:18 pm

congress appropriated our debt then wants to welch and cons give them a free pass.

It is ignorant and congress is to blame.

The gop are a joke.

We found out from woodward’s book (all gop’s words and gop biased) that the speaker will not negotiate because Lew kicked his azz.

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 10th, 2013
5:19 pm

Grits – People get murder w/o guns every day

It’s the people stupid

Yes but guns make it alot easier.

You come at me with a knife im gonna kick your a**

Come at me with a gun im a dead man.

Big difference

Its the guns stupid.

Bob

January 10th, 2013
5:19 pm

Paul, my point was that we have money from current revenue to cover current debt obligations. We are told that if we do not raise the debt limit we will default on current obligation. We need the debt limit raised to issue new debt not to cover payments on old debt, some do not grasp that. I don’t see why you imply that past debt would be covered by borrowing when we do have the revenue to cover those payments.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

January 10th, 2013
5:19 pm

Whats a millionion of weather?

Is it like a millie vanilli opinion? Where it looks like its the right answer, but it’s just a fake answer dressed up with a wig on it?

Jay

January 10th, 2013
5:19 pm

Your first conviction in Ga. for DUI gets you a one-year suspension of your sentence. So in most cases, yes, it does get you off the road.

A second offense within five years gets you a three-year suspension of your driving privileges. Again, I’d say that gets you off the road in most cases.

Oscar

January 10th, 2013
5:20 pm

In order to make cuts, congress has to pss legisltion. Tht’s not too likely to happen unless this congress is better than the last one.

Erwin's cat

January 10th, 2013
5:21 pm

And your evidence for that would be?

1.5 million DUI’s a year…a DUI doesn’t take anyone off the road for longer than a few months if that

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 10th, 2013
5:21 pm

The point being we should make killing another human being as hard as possible

Not easier ( guns )

Class Re-Dismissed.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

January 10th, 2013
5:21 pm

Well, it’s Miller time! Later peeps!

Doggone/GA

January 10th, 2013
5:22 pm

“I don’t see why you imply that past debt would be covered by borrowing when we do have the revenue to cover those payments.”

How about providing some interesting things called NUMBERS to back up what you say?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 10th, 2013
5:22 pm

BF 4:07: the 2nd amendment prohibits the US government infringing on the right to keep and bear arms [as I quoted]

My comment 4:10: Nope. Fail. Read Heller. The US govt can regulate many things about guns and arms without violating the 2d amendment.

BF response 4:14: Read Heller. Nowhere did it say the Federal Government can infringe
the right to keep and bear arms

My response 4:22: Bullfrog crap [....] “The Constitution leaves the
District of Columbia a variety of tools for combating that
problem, including some measures regulating handguns,
see supra, at 54–55, and n. 26. But the enshrinement of
constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy
choices off the table. These include the absolute prohibition
of handguns held and used for self-defense in the
home.”

Your response 4:26: DC cannot prohibit the right to keep and bear arms

My response 4:30: [...] Heller dealt with HANDGUNS. Heller says DC cannot absolutely prohibit handgun ownership. [...]

If you don’t comprehend what you were saying, Frog, perhaps you need to be clearer. Again Heller says nothing about not allowing the government to impose restrictions and only says the government can not ABSOLUTELY prohibit HANDGUN ownership. Anything else is dicta and the case does not stand for your claim that “DC cannot prohibit the right to keep and bear arms.” In fact it can. It can preclude that right for criminals, the mentally ill and others, even in HANDGUNS.

Oscar

January 10th, 2013
5:23 pm

Bob – you are on yur figures. Revenues are not enough too cover past debt interst and current obligations created by congess.

Brosephus™

January 10th, 2013
5:23 pm

Fred

I saw that episode of Mythbusters, and I thought it was pretty cool. I have almost the entire Flying Guillotine series of movies. As to the screen name, I spell it correctly. You just have to know where it originated from.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/05/this-new-roommate-is-driving-me-nuts.html

(h/t to RW-the Original)

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TBG

No Just For Men here. I’m watching it change naturally so that I can take my place amongst the “grown folk” in my family. :)

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Keep

Yep!!! It’s not like teachers don’t really have anything else to do but train on the range and in the mat room.

:)

Homerun

January 10th, 2013
5:23 pm

at some point the money has to get paid back- interest rates are low right now, so what happens when this short term debt has to be refinanced at higher interest rates, which will certainly be at some point in the future. So if we keep adding to the debt every year, and then interest rates go up, we will have a bigger problem. the debt ceiling will have to be raised to satisfy the debts Congress has authorized. But how or who is going to stop the problem from continuing? Sometimes you have to use a harsh tactic to get the message across to people who continue to think we can keep going down the same path. The Libs don’t even acknowledge the problem and think somehow we will spend and tax our way out of this problem. That won’t work, never has and isn’t now. So the debt ceiling negotiations are a way of bringing needed attention to a problem that to solve will mean alienating low information voters and have Congresspeople risk not being re-elected. America is having a hard time dealing with the reality of the situation- nobody is willing to give up “theirs”

Bob

January 10th, 2013
5:23 pm

Cheesey, are more people killed by hammers or assault rifles ? I will save you some time, go with blunt force trauma. You may kick ass if someone came at you with a knife but statistics show more people are killed by getting whacked in the head than killed with an assault rifle.

Paul

January 10th, 2013
5:26 pm

Bob

“Paul, my point was that we have money from current revenue to cover current debt obligations.”

Let me clarify: is what you’re saying is that if we don’t increase the debt limit, we will not issue any new debt obligations AND the revenue we have is sufficient to cover interest due on current debt obligations without spending on anything else?

Are you saying it’d be just fine if ALL other spending by the federal government stopped immediately upon hitting the debt ceiling?

Erwin's cat

January 10th, 2013
5:27 pm

Your first conviction in Ga. for DUI gets you a one-year suspension of your sentence. So in most cases, yes, it does get you off the road.

when did they change the law?..I know someone that got convicted of one a 6 mos ago and he still driving..and never lost all of his privileges..for a short time he could only drive back and forth to work..but that was only for a few months

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 10th, 2013
5:27 pm

1.5 million DUI’s a year…a DUI doesn’t take anyone off the road for longer than a few months if that

Listen. I run with a crowd and a few are pretty serious drinkers.

If you dont think for one second that not getting a DUI and designating a driver aren’t top priority for those folks because they know exactly what hell awaits them if the get a DUI

Then your are nuts.

People lose their jobs. I think in a lot of towns they run your name in the paper and mugshot.

I know one guy who had to get a device in his car that he had to blow in every so often or the car would shut off.

You’ve lost this one. Id quit digging.

Tougher laws & Awareness and other things have led to the drop in fatalities.

The same could be applied to the gun problem in this country.

Fin

getalife

January 10th, 2013
5:28 pm

We need a law to keep the gop from blowing a balanced budget again after we balance the budget again or just work on lowering the debt.

The other half of your brain.

January 10th, 2013
5:29 pm

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 10th, 2013
5:09 pm

Almost two weeks after a shooting spree stunned Australia in 1996, leaving 35 people dead at the Port Arthur tourist spot in Tasmania, the government issued sweeping reforms of the country’s gun laws.

There hasn’t been a mass shooting since.

When you have basically a homogeneous society it’s a lot easier than one like ours.
That was an easy one.

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 10th, 2013
5:29 pm

.I know someone that got convicted of one a 6 mos ago and he still driving..and never lost all of his privileges

He either got lucky or paid a lot of money for a lawyer.

Either way that’s not typical.

Erwin's cat

January 10th, 2013
5:29 pm

Come at me with a gun im a dead man.

not if you CCW’d

indigo

January 10th, 2013
5:29 pm

Erwin’s cat – 4:44

That’s what I thought you would say.

America is an open country where gun stats can easily be obtained.

Russia is, by contrast, a very closed country. We don’t really know how many people have guns.

After the Soviet Union collapsed, Russia, for a time, was a mess, and we still don’t know where many of their Military weapons went, much less handguns and assualt rifles.

If their murder rate is that much higher than ours, you must also take into account the quality of their law enforcement, or lack thereof.

The other half of your brain.

January 10th, 2013
5:30 pm

getalife

January 10th, 2013
5:28 pm

We need a law to keep the gop from blowing a balanced budget again after we balance the budget again or just work on lowering the debt.

Get, You and I won’t see it in our lifetime with a 16 Trillion debt.

Doggone/GA

January 10th, 2013
5:31 pm

“We need a law to keep the gop from blowing a balanced budget again after we balance the budget again or just work on lowering the debt”

Here’s the problem with that: if the GOP gets back in power there’s nothing to stop them from passing a change to that law. Passing the law isn’t enough, you’d have to find a way to keep them from coming back into power too. Got a plan for that?

Erwin's cat

January 10th, 2013
5:31 pm

Either way that’s not typical

unfortunately it is..I know one guy with 3…maybe 4 he still drives w/o restrictions…and has paid handsomely for lawyers and fines and schools etc…

Jay

January 10th, 2013
5:32 pm

“Yes but guns make it alot easier.

You come at me with a knife im gonna kick your a**

Come at me with a gun im a dead man.

Big difference

Its the guns stupid.

Not to mention the fact that possessing a gun turns a coward into a badass who thinks he can take on the world. It changes behavior dramatically.

indigo

January 10th, 2013
5:33 pm

Debbie – 5:16

And alcohol, drugs and texting while driving doesn’t kill people.

People drinking, doing drugs and texting while driving kill people.

getalife

January 10th, 2013
5:33 pm

Good point Indigo.

Americans should read about the collapse of the USSR to see if that is really what they want.

Erwin's cat

January 10th, 2013
5:33 pm

Russia is, by contrast, a very closed country. We don’t really know how many people have guns.

LOL
so you’re calling out the Harvard Review?…check out the big brain on indigo

Jay

January 10th, 2013
5:34 pm

“Come at me with a gun im a dead man.

not if you CCW’d

Yeah. Tell that one to Keith Ratliff.

indigo

January 10th, 2013
5:34 pm

Jay – 5:32

Some people here still don’t understand that you don’t bring a knife to a gunfight.

getalife

January 10th, 2013
5:34 pm

“Got a plan for that?”

Never, ever vote gop.

Jay

January 10th, 2013
5:35 pm

If somebody comes at you with a firearm, and you have yet to reach into your shoulder holster to pull your own weapon, your Rambo fantasy ends pretty quickly.

That Black Guy

January 10th, 2013
5:35 pm

TaxPayer

January 10th, 2013
5:00 pm
Con claim: There are millions of cars on the road so you cannot just change the rules to include things like driver’s licenses and insurance and speed limits and seat belts, etc., and expect to change anything.
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Do you have a link to a “con”, or ANYONE for that matter, saying that?

getalife

January 10th, 2013
5:35 pm

cat,

Who ran the USSR after they collapsed?

indigo

January 10th, 2013
5:35 pm

Ewrin

Do you think the Harvard Review sent thousands of people to Russia to question millions of Russians about their gun ownership?

That Black Guy

January 10th, 2013
5:36 pm

Taxpayer, ANYONE other than YOU that is…

Erwin's cat

January 10th, 2013
5:36 pm

Not to mention the fact that possessing a gun turns a coward into a badass who thinks he can take on the world.

when I carry, I don’t turn into Chuck Norris or feel like..I feel like I can protect myself from a threat of violence against me…nothing more

Doggone/GA

January 10th, 2013
5:36 pm

“Some people here still don’t understand that you don’t bring a knife to a gunfight.”

Might want to check out the Mythbusters episode on that before you sound so sure

Erwin's cat

January 10th, 2013
5:37 pm

Who ran the USSR after they collapsed?

Russia and still does

Doggone/GA

January 10th, 2013
5:38 pm

“Never, ever vote gop”

Ok, now you just have to convince at least half of your fellow voters of that. Got plan for THAT?

Erwin's cat

January 10th, 2013
5:39 pm

Do you think the Harvard Review sent thousands of people to Russia to question millions of Russians about their gun ownership?

No, I think they just make stuff up on the fly :roll:

That Black Guy

January 10th, 2013
5:39 pm

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

Are you saying that airbags, anti-lock brakes, crumple zones, and other automobile safety advances have ZERO affect in the decline of traffic deaths?

Really?

Jay

January 10th, 2013
5:39 pm

In today’s school shooting in California, the shooter walked in with a shotgun and wounded one student.

What kind of damage would he have done with a Bushmaster and a large-capacity magazine?

getalife

January 10th, 2013
5:40 pm

“Get, You and I won’t see it in our lifetime with a 16 Trillion debt”

We can work on lowering the debt but should never balance the budget unless we can stop your party from blowing it again.

Erwin's cat

January 10th, 2013
5:41 pm

Are you saying that airbags, anti-lock brakes, crumple zones, and other automobile safety advances have ZERO affect in the decline of traffic deaths?

probably saved a lot of drunk and innocent lives

Erwin's cat

January 10th, 2013
5:41 pm

gotta run for now…maybe back later

Doggone/GA

January 10th, 2013
5:41 pm

“What kind of damage would he have done with a Bushmaster and a large-capacity magazine?”

Not enought information to speculate. How was he stopped?

That Black Guy

January 10th, 2013
5:41 pm

Uh Huh

January 10th, 2013
5:04 pm
McConnell being a Hollywood leading man???????

Not with that UGLY DOG MUG.
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Yeah, ’cause Billy Bob Thorton, Forrest Whittaker, Jack Black, and others are just DREAMY. :roll:

getalife

January 10th, 2013
5:43 pm

Jay,

I read a teacher talked him down but with an assault rifle that teacher would be shot multiple times.

Should we be shown pictures of those kids shot multiple times?

Jay

January 10th, 2013
5:43 pm

“Are you saying that airbags, anti-lock brakes, crumple zones, and other automobile safety advances have ZERO affect in the decline of traffic deaths?

I doubt that’s what he’s saying. All those advances — advances mandated by government regulation over the complaints of manufacturers, by the way — have of course had an effect.

As might mandatory gun locks, palm-print readers and bans on large-capacity magazines, among other steps.

N-GA

January 10th, 2013
5:44 pm

Armstrong (and the baseball players) were all wrong, but the culture that heaps adulation on pro wrestlers who cheat (even though it is all fake), that says that NASCAR racers are only cheating “when they get caught”, that gives high ratings to all the crappy movies and TV shows that emphasize winning at any cost (including cheating) certainly must accept a large measure of the blame…..

Jay

January 10th, 2013
5:44 pm

Don’t know, Dog. Don’t know what type of shotgun he wielded either.

Paul

January 10th, 2013
5:44 pm

Doggone/GA

I knew the guy in charge of training for the Sheriff’s dept in the Fl city I lived in. That pretty much mirrored their training – guy with a knife approaches closer than N feet, shoot or he’ll take you out.

oldguy

January 10th, 2013
5:45 pm

So Jay,
therefore there is no drunk driving in Georgia right? It’s against the law!
The school shooting in California…. Committed with a shotgun…So what now, ban all shotguns? Sounds logical to me.
The report also states “The shooter may have had up to 20 shotgun rounds in his pockets.” How about banning all high capacity pockets in boy’s pants?
And you honestly think that we gun owners don’t realize that the political goal of you gun haters is a step by step banning of firearms.
Remember the saying “every journey begins with the first step”?
My next door neighbor left Wed for his annual visit to Germany to visit relatives. He has told me many times about how his grandparents actually thought when Hitler became chancellor he would be a reformer and bring jobs and prosperity to Germany That was what he said. Just believe in me.

barking frog

January 10th, 2013
5:45 pm

Keep Up
So You are saying that the government infringes the right to keep
and bear arms by regulation of certain people and arms. I don’t
think so. The right is infringed when it is taken away. Guns have
been regulated since they were invented and other arms also.

That Black Guy

January 10th, 2013
5:46 pm

Cheesy “This is why the Death tolls have dropped dramatically.”

Improved vehicle safety has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with it, right?

Jay

January 10th, 2013
5:47 pm

“So Jay,
therefore there is no drunk driving in Georgia right?

When you cross the line into inanity in your opening sentence, it doesn’t bode well for the rest of your post.

In this case, the rest of the post proves that suspicion justified.

Brosephus™

January 10th, 2013
5:50 pm

Yes but guns make it alot easier.

You come at me with a knife im gonna kick your a**

That’s not always the case. Check this blog entry out. There’s photos linked within that blog, but I won’t link directly to them because they are graphic.

http://blogidaho.blogspot.com/2007/01/why-cops-shoot-guys-with-knives.html

Doggone/GA

January 10th, 2013
5:52 pm

“Don’t know, Dog. Don’t know what type of shotgun he wielded either”

then it’s not worth trying to discuss. I can IMAGINE a lot of things…but guesswork means nothing.

Jay

January 10th, 2013
5:53 pm

And geniuses like this fool REALLY make the case for why certain people can’t be trusted with powerful firearms.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/10/unhinged-tactical-response-ceo-threatens-to-start-killing-people-over-obamas-gun-control/

That Black Guy

January 10th, 2013
5:55 pm

Bro – “TBG

No Just For Men here. I’m watching it change naturally so that I can take my place amongst the “grown folk” in my family. ”
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You’ve seen mine. Started going that way when my daughter entered high school.

Thought about dying it, but women seem to like it, so who am I to argue? :lol:

Brosephus™

January 10th, 2013
5:55 pm

That pretty much mirrored their training – guy with a knife approaches closer than N feet, shoot or he’ll take you out.

Where N = 21, otherwise known as the 21 foot rule.

:)

Bob

January 10th, 2013
5:56 pm

The debt ceiling fiasco is so odd, in that every previous President’s request were always honored. Reagan raised it 18 times in his 8 years, Bush Jr raised it 7 times in his 8 years. Makes one wonder if Obama were a Republican if we’d even anything about the debt ceiling?

Brosephus™

January 10th, 2013
5:58 pm

What kind of damage would he have done with a Bushmaster and a large-capacity magazine?

Here’s a bit of information about the potential damage. This one has graphic images too.

http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=17111.0

That Black Guy

January 10th, 2013
5:58 pm

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 10th, 2013
5:29 pm
.I know someone that got convicted of one a 6 mos ago and he still driving..and never lost all of his privileges

He either got lucky or paid a lot of money for a lawyer.

Either way that’s not typical.
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It’s a lot more typical than you think. Google “DUI Lawyer” and see.

Brosephus™

January 10th, 2013
5:59 pm

TBG

Don’t dye it bro. I’m gonna trim mine back down now that Christmas is over with.

Paul

January 10th, 2013
6:03 pm

Jay 5:53

Looks like the latest justification for owning guns is not to protect us from a tyrannical government, but to protect us from gun nuts.

Bob 5:56

One more piece of evidence this is nothing more than political theater by Republicans.

That Black Guy

January 10th, 2013
6:04 pm

Jay

January 10th, 2013
5:39 pm
In today’s school shooting in California, the shooter walked in with a shotgun and wounded one student.

What kind of damage would he have done with a Bushmaster and a large-capacity magazine?
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Jay, I don’t think *that* particular gunman would have caused more damage if he had a Bushmaster.

A shot gun can cause a lot more damage than a .22 cal.

Fred ™

January 10th, 2013
6:04 pm

Brosephus™

January 10th, 2013
5:23 pm

Fred

I saw that episode of Mythbusters, and I thought it was pretty cool. I have almost the entire Flying Guillotine series of movies. As to the screen name, I spell it correctly. You just have to know where it originated from.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/05/this-new-roommate-is-driving-me-nuts.html

(h/t to RW-the Original)
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Really? So that ass clown can’t spell and that validates you/ OK. I forget what is your daughters name? Thyphony? Or is it Scharleize? Or maybe Fylysitie.

My real name is Zhiqurtl. That’s pronounced “Bill.”

indigo

January 10th, 2013
6:05 pm

Doggone/GA – 5:36

OK, in your case an exception will be made.

You would bring only a knife to a gunfight.

That Black Guy

January 10th, 2013
6:08 pm

Jay

January 10th, 2013
5:43 pm
“Are you saying that airbags, anti-lock brakes, crumple zones, and other automobile safety advances have ZERO affect in the decline of traffic deaths?

I doubt that’s what he’s saying. All those advances — advances mandated by government regulation over the complaints of manufacturers, by the way — have of course had an effect.

As might mandatory gun locks, palm-print readers and bans on large-capacity magazines, among other steps.
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I get that Jay.

Just pointing out to Cheesy that it was not one thing (DUI Laws), but many things the contributed to the decline.

Brosephus™

January 10th, 2013
6:08 pm

Fred

LOL!!!!!!

Bob

January 10th, 2013
6:09 pm

doggone, do you really need someone to provide numbers for that ? Our 2012 budget calls for about 7% of it to be spent on covering debt obligations, interest on debt that is. If we are borrowing 40% of new money spent that means we have 60% to cover budget items. 60% minus 7% means we have money to cover the current debt obligation and we are being lied to when we are told we will default on current debt obligations. http://usbudgetalert.com/spending.php.

DownInAlbany

January 10th, 2013
6:12 pm

Jay

January 10th, 2013
5:39 pm

In today’s school shooting in California, the shooter walked in with a shotgun and wounded one student.

What kind of damage would he have done with a Bushmaster and a large-capacity magazine?

So, now we have to deal with what could have been, too?

oldguy

January 10th, 2013
6:12 pm

Thank you for making my point jay,
Laws are only as effective as there are people who are willing to obey them.
What is smuggled by the ton over the border from Mexico? Marijuana.
Why? because there are millions of Americans who are willing to ignore the law and purchase/use it illegally.
from the insane person.

That Black Guy

January 10th, 2013
6:13 pm

Bro, not going to dye it.

The lady I’m seeing right now likes it. Says it’s sexy.

The grey stays. :lol:

DownInAlbany

January 10th, 2013
6:13 pm

Jay

January 10th, 2013
5:35 pm

If somebody comes at you with a firearm, and you have yet to reach into your shoulder holster to pull your own weapon, your Rambo fantasy ends pretty quickly.

And, folks that choose to defend themselves are now “Rambo?” Wow

Fred ™

January 10th, 2013
6:14 pm

Brocephus: I couldn’t resist :mrgreen:

But on a serious note, until I pointed it out, did you ever notice the way I spelled your screen name over the way you mis-spell it? I never noticed until today when I mentioned it…….

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 10th, 2013
6:14 pm

TBG: Jay, I don’t think *that* particular gunman would have caused more damage if he had a Bushmaster. A shot gun can cause a lot more damage than a .22 cal.

You are entitled to your opinion but “cause a lot more damage” may be relative. Sure a shotgun can blast in one direction with shot but with the Bushmaster you can fire multiple .223/5.56 mm in different directions and at multiple targets. So your statement has validity in limited scenarios and not the most likely ones in a mass attack situation.

Paul

January 10th, 2013
6:14 pm

Bob

Your scenario presupposes debt obligations take priority over all else.

Nice way to end the war in Afghanistan, though -

Paul

January 10th, 2013
6:16 pm

Bob

And shut down border inspections. And tell the FAA to go home. And cut funding for CIA operations tracking AQ.

Fred ™

January 10th, 2013
6:16 pm

Oh and Brocephus? ALABAMA IS RANKED NUMBER TWO IN THE NATION

Really. According to one of the computers that they use for the BCS rankings.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/one-bcs-computer-still-ranks-notre-dame-no-185628284–ncaaf.html

All you can do is say, “Just damn.”