Why Ga. has so little to show for being so ‘business friendly’

In November, Georgia was ranked 4th in the nation for its pro-business environment by Site Selection magazine, which specializes in corporate relocations. The Georgia Department of Economic Development was understandably quick to seize on that happy news, giving it prominent play on the department’s website.

Such rankings appear to validate a concerted, decade-long effort by Georgia’s leadership to make the state as business-friendly as possible. Our state and local business tax burden, for example, ranks eighth lowest in the country, according to a 2012 analysis by Ernst & Young. And as Site Selection noted approvingly, the 2012 Legislature continued that effort by eliminating the sales tax on energy used in manufacturing, enhancing tax incentives and “strengthening” open records laws by delaying public release of economic development deals.

When the 2013 Georgia Legislature convenes Monday, it will no doubt attempt to continue that crusade. For example, while state legislators are likely to approve using tax money to help finance a new stadium for the Atlanta Falcons, they could balk at renewing a much-needed hospital tax that will help keep tens of thousands of poor Georgians covered by Medicaid.

You see, using tax money to help the Falcons and the NFL, the most profitable sports league on the planet, is “economic development”, while helping poor families get medical coverage is considered welfare.

The larger question, however, is whether the state’s strategy is achieving its goals. And that in turn depends on what you choose to measure. For example, here is how Site Selection has ranked Georgia’s business climate each year from 2002-2012:

2002: 4th

2003: 7th

2004: 4th

2005: 3rd

2006: 4th

2007: 2nd

2008: 10th

2009: 8th

2010: 6th

2011: 2nd

2012: 4th

For more than a decade, in other words, Georgia has never ranked out of the top 10 for business climate, and over that period it has averaged in the top five. That tells us that year after year, for an extended amount of time, our leaders have succeeded in crafting government policy to produce exactly the kind of regulatory and tax environment that business leaders say they need to produce growth and prosperity. So by that measure it has been a great success.

But what do we have to show for it?

— We have an unemployment rate of 8.5 percent, significantly higher than the 7.8 percent national average and the ninth highest rate in the country, tied with Mississippi. And it is not a short-term phenomenon. Our unemployment rate has exceeded the national average for each of the last 64 months.

— In 2001, Georgia had the 17th highest poverty rate in the country. By 2011 it had the nation’s sixth highest poverty rate. We are slipping and slipping fast.

— In 2001, the state ranked 25th in per capita income and was rising rapidly in that critically important category; today, it ranks 39th in per capita income. In fact, after adjusting for inflation, state per capita income has declined by 3.5 percent since 2001.

To make matters worse, while trying to create a diligently “pro-business” environment, state government has also attempted to shrink the social safety net substantially. In a piece headlined “Georgia’s Hunger Games,” Slate reported last month that thanks to aggressive government efforts to deny benefits, fewer than 7 percent of the 300,000 Georgia households in poverty collect benefits through Temporary Assistance to Needy Families, more commonly known as welfare. Nationally, the comparable number is 27 percent.

Is that punitive approach working? Not so you’d notice. We also have the nation’s fifth highest rate of those without health insurance, and the fourth highest differential between rich and poor.

In other words, there is no sign that pursuit of a narrowly defined “business-friendly” climate has resulted in a more people-friendly climate. And isn’t that the real goal?

1,198 comments Add your comment

N-GA

January 9th, 2013
7:54 am

And you didn’t even mention education……

N-GA

January 9th, 2013
7:54 am

Am I the only one awake????

Jm

January 9th, 2013
7:55 am

I’d argue a lackluster education system is more of the problem

Followed up by a distorted, messed up tax code no matter what site selection says

Site selection is more focused on regulatory hurdles on new industrial projects, incentives, and energy costs, primarily for industrial uses

That is not necessarily a recipe for success so I’d politely suggest that Jay and site selection’s metric isn’t the yard stick we should be using to determine if we’re biz friendly or not

:)

stands for decibels

January 9th, 2013
7:56 am

naw, I called Sheetzies downstairs. They’ll be ’round in a minute.

N-GA

January 9th, 2013
7:56 am

What about traffic congestion?

barking frog

January 9th, 2013
7:58 am

Evidently businesses don’t pay much attention to the state rankings.

Thomas

January 9th, 2013
7:58 am

It would be interesting to include rankings of illegal immigration and new business growth in and outside of the City of Atlanta as well as unemployment in and outside of Atlanta.

Kasim Reed is very bright and definitely provides a lot more positive energy- at least the A town is turning the corner.

Jay- now that Krugman turned down Treasury Secretary are you being interviewed?

N-GA

January 9th, 2013
8:00 am

You would think that with a Representative like Paul Broun, businesses would be lining up to move to Georgia!

stands for decibels

January 9th, 2013
8:01 am

— In 2001, Georgia had the 17th highest poverty rate in the country. By 2011 it had the nation’s sixth highest poverty rate. We are slipping and slipping fast.

— In 2001, the state ranked 25th in per capita income and was rising rapidly in that critically important category; today, it ranks 39th in per capita income. In fact, after adjusting for inflation, state per capita income has declined by 3.5 percent since 2001.

From what I can tell, we went from a mildly progressive, dragged-kicked-and-screaming-into-the-20th-century form of governance under the blue-doggy stylings of Zell and Roy, to a reversion to the conservative mean since Nixon’s Southern Strategy finally took hold here in Jan. 2003.

But I’m just some clueless Yankee so what do I know.

Brad Steel

January 9th, 2013
8:01 am

On the positive side, I hear we catching up with Mississippi in the prevention of rickets.

N-GA

January 9th, 2013
8:04 am

Hire Ralph Reed to lure more casino business here.

Adam

January 9th, 2013
8:04 am

On the one side, you have “Pro business.”

On the other side you have pro economy, pro worker, and pro growth.

There is clearly a conflict between these sides. What is pro business may only be good for businesses, and not for anyone else, not even the people that work there.

Mr. Snarky

January 9th, 2013
8:07 am

Maybe business leaders see a bunch of bass ackwards ignorant and yet shady individuals in our elected positions and think “don’t want to go there!”.

stands for decibels

January 9th, 2013
8:07 am

reversion to the conservative mean

And yes, in case anyone was wondering–pun intended.

TaxPayer

January 9th, 2013
8:07 am

Jay,

You are clearly lacking access to the Republican party’s unskewed data that shows the greatness of their work. Perhaps a call in to Karl Rove for your own personalized access to their database is in order.

stands for decibels

January 9th, 2013
8:09 am

“Pro Business” usually means “Pro Whichever Business is Lining My Pocket.”

GB

January 9th, 2013
8:09 am

The poor rankings are largely a reflection of Georgia’s demographics. Our population is about 30% black, close to three times the % of the nation as a whole. Blacks everywhere in the US have higher rates of unemployment and lower income. Any analysis that does not take demographics into account is incomplete.

Aquagirl

January 9th, 2013
8:11 am

with a Representative like Paul Broun, businesses would be lining up to move to Georgia!

Georgia: the promised land for taxidermists.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/gop-congressman-evolution-big-bang-lies-straight-from-the-pit-of-hell/politics/2012/10/05/50403

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 9th, 2013
8:12 am

Well, the reason we got such a passel of poor folks is because they don’t create jobs, and the reason we don’t have enough jobs is because we got so many poor folks.

Or something like that. I get so bumfuzzled when I think about it.

Have a good Hump Day everybody.

DannyX

January 9th, 2013
8:12 am

“Legislature not likely to do much for transit”

Come to Georgia! We offer an uneducated work force that can’t get to their jobs. We now lead the nation in new abortion laws per year! We are strongly anti-Agenda 21.

Ken

January 9th, 2013
8:14 am

Ya think Jay will write about Al Gore’s sell out of Current ? Lots of Mid East PORK for Al. And how many millions has he made with his global warming funniness ? Just a big hypocrite.

stands for decibels

January 9th, 2013
8:14 am

Site Selection magazine, heretofore unknown to yrs trly, appears to be a treasure trove of literally scare-the-living-crap-outa-you info.

frinstance:

http://www.siteselection.com/issues/2013/jan/selectors-survey.cfm

Right-to-work status may not be absolutely necessary for a state to win a project, the site consultants said, but in about half of all projects the states that do not have right-to-work laws will probably be screened out of the running at the first stage.

Reminds me of a great tune from a great band:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKNF1J6wbRk

TaxPayer

January 9th, 2013
8:15 am

The word under the dome is that the failures of the Republican party, both here and elsewhere, is Obama’s fault.

Peadawg

January 9th, 2013
8:15 am

“Why Ga. has so little to show for being so ‘business friendly’”

B/c businesses are being greedy, holding onto their money, and not hiring.

Johnny Reb

January 9th, 2013
8:16 am

Jay, it seems Georgia had more business when we had the Confederate battle symbol on our state flag.

Since its been changed (twice now), Georgia can’t seem to attract flies to do business here.

Surely a coincidence?

Thomas

January 9th, 2013
8:16 am

You are making the same argument that the “con” make against stimulus to which the libs reply “unemployment would have been more than 10% but for the stimulus”

Having Kia an automotive foot print is great.

Skip

January 9th, 2013
8:18 am

Thank God for the Blacks, if not for them who could we blame? How about the Yankees?

Just Saying ...

January 9th, 2013
8:18 am

“The poor rankings are largely a reflection of Georgia’s demographics. Our population is about 30% black, close to three times the % of the nation as a whole. Blacks everywhere in the US have higher rates of unemployment and lower income.” – GB

Its always the “Blacks” fault !

W Chan

January 9th, 2013
8:18 am

They obviously have not done business in Dekalb County

Gale

January 9th, 2013
8:18 am

Seems like a big factor for “business friendly” is that the state will let you pay employees with peanuts.

stands for decibels

January 9th, 2013
8:20 am

B/c businesses are being greedy, holding onto their money, and not hiring.

Aka entrepreneurial, thrifty, and efficient.

Which is why Government should never, ever be “run like a business,” and why even dumb average Americans of voting age realize, generally, that rich CEOs would make terrible Presidents. In case anyone wondered.

indigo

January 9th, 2013
8:22 am

It’s hard to know why this “pro-business” initiative has not worked.

However, it’s no problem at all knowing why Georgia’s Republican Legislature has gone all out to court the rich while turning a blind eye to the poor.

Big Business sponsors Republican election and re-election campaigns so Republicans naturally toady to them.

Poor Georgians, on the other hand, can not offer any financial help to the Republicans and, consequently, get nothing but contempt from GOP lawmakers.

Hey, is this a great country or what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peadawg

January 9th, 2013
8:23 am

Anyone read about AIG maybe suing the gov’t b/c the bailout agreement was unfair? WOW!

Adam

January 9th, 2013
8:24 am

stands: Aka entrepreneurial, thrifty, and efficient.

Which is why Government should never, ever be “run like a business,”

Is there a clapping or standing ovation icon?

Shar

January 9th, 2013
8:25 am

“Pro-business” has degenerated into “pro-business profits.” Tax breaks such as the Delta jet fuel exemption, the sales tax on energy used for manufacturing, the huge giveaways for relocating businesses are put into the pockets of the “job creators”, with the dribbles tossed to the slavering politicians who handed out the tax-funded goodies much as medieval lords threw bones from the table to the dogs. The notion that “pro-business” should mean an increase in jobs, in local tax bases, in investment has largely been lost in the symbiotic self-interest of business heads and politicians. The notion of civic responsibility and shared prosperity have largely been lost as the political and business elites have insulated themselves from the rest of us with giant piles of cash.

For an exception, I’d offer Mount Vernon Mills in Trion, GA. The leaders of that business share civic life with employees and feel a true sense of shared responsibility. The mill continues to provide jobs in a tough industry and a tough area. Those folks restore faith in American business practice.

Tim Ryles

January 9th, 2013
8:25 am

Consider the possibility that all of that pro-business, government directed “capitalism” is designed to create an environment for protecting existing businesses from any state regulation, not to attract new business. A genuine pro-business policy would first invest in and protect its citizens against exploitation via a first rate educational system, insisting that business pay its fair share, and when public money is involved grant the public a means of control, just to mention a few alternatives. The mutual dependency of government and business in this state weakens the roles of both.

Paul

January 9th, 2013
8:26 am

If only poor people and unemployed people and sick people could make campaign contributions and hire lobbyists…..

Really, it’s another fine example of ideology devoid of thought.

JF McNamara

January 9th, 2013
8:26 am

It has resulted in greater perks for our legislators.

Adam

January 9th, 2013
8:27 am

Peadawg: Anyone read about AIG maybe suing the gov’t b/c the bailout agreement was unfair?

Yeah, crazy huh?

I’ll comment on that more after the general topic comments have died.

stands for decibels

January 9th, 2013
8:28 am

Anyone read about AIG maybe suing the gov’t b/c the bailout agreement was unfair?

No, but I heard snippets of the story from Rachel on my TV while flipping away from Food Network during the Chopped commercial breaks.

(that’s how engaged I am, of late, in national political skullduggery. It’s like every story just gets more horrible than the next.)

GT

January 9th, 2013
8:28 am

We are a people that live in the desert but give farming advice to the gardens of Eden around the world.

The Kia plant was built seven miles from the Alabama border, allowing for easy access to the citizens of Alabama for employment on Georgia’s tax dollar. A good percent of that plant and many of its suppliers live in Alabama.

The quality of state leadership has gotten commoner and commoner as the decades have past. From the days of successful business men like Carl Sanders, Jimmy Carter, George Busby we have retreated to people who come to office with questionable character and no resume for success. We pride ourselves on meanest, lies and stupidity, and pick our leaders as such. The north, the minority, the foreigners, the educated are all our enemies, and we live in Gone with the Wind property to show the world we got what it takes.

stands for decibels

January 9th, 2013
8:30 am

Is there a clapping or standing ovation icon?

No. However, I’ll accept a modest donation made to, say, Earth Justice or suchlike in my name instead.

stands for decibels

January 9th, 2013
8:35 am

Its always the “Blacks” fault !

Not “black people.” “Blah people.”

straitroad

January 9th, 2013
8:40 am

Jay, if you had to choose another state or states for Georgia to model itself after, which one(s) would you pick?

kayaker 71

January 9th, 2013
8:40 am

So, now we are to believe that all of these poverty numbers by the more unfortunate among us have just occurred during the last decade when those evil Repubs were controlling the legislature and the governors office. We certainly didn’t have a problem during the last 130 preceding years when those heroes of the downtrodden were spending Georgia tax dollars. Nah…… all of those conscientious, honest, progressive Democratic legislators were at the pinnacle of correctness and looked upon the have nots with a sense of dedication and responsibility.
Damn, Bookman. You sure have a way of only telling half the story.

godless heathen

January 9th, 2013
8:41 am

More than one-third of the young persons in this state do not obtain the freely provided high school diploma.

DannyX

January 9th, 2013
8:43 am

GT, excellent comment on Georgia leadership.

What a wonderful 10 years it’s been since Republicans took over. Sonny Perdue built a shipping empire. Linda Schrenko got a face lift. Glenn Richardson had an affair with a lobbyist. Nathan Deal defended a nice no-bid government contract, went bankrupt, and filled important positions with his friends and family plan. Chip Rogers and Tom Graves got a no-collateral, “we could never pay it back” $2.1 million roach motel loan. The chairs of the House and Senate banking committees are involved with failed banks. Georgia Power gets an obscene residential customer financed power plant deal. John Ralston takes a nice family vacation. Don Balfour steals taxpayer money. John Oxendine is run out of town. Ralph Reed sold his soul to the devil. State legislators eat from the lobby trough.

Someone call Beth Merkleson, Republicans are out of control.

godless heathen

January 9th, 2013
8:43 am

Things would sure be better if Georgia ranked near the bottom in pro-business environment scale.

Cherokee

January 9th, 2013
8:43 am

And what does Algore and Current TV have to do with Georgia business practices, Ken?

curious

January 9th, 2013
8:45 am

The way our Government deals with social issues and looks after its citizens is the true indicator of its character.

Business leaders see this and make decisions based on that.

We’re in the “Race to the bottom”.

Before you say it, if your’re not over 67 years old and a native of Georgia, don’t tell me to leave.

SBinF

January 9th, 2013
8:45 am

“The poor rankings are largely a reflection of Georgia’s demographics. Our population is about 30% black, close to three times the % of the nation as a whole. Blacks everywhere in the US have higher rates of unemployment and lower income. Any analysis that does not take demographics into account is incomplete.”

Ahh yes, blame the blacks. It didn’t take long to trot that one out.

Cherokee

January 9th, 2013
8:46 am

SFD and Danny, well said. Georgia was a reasonably progressive state with good business opportunities until the Republcans took over. Been downhill ever since.

Simple Truths

January 9th, 2013
8:47 am

Maybe people in Georgia have a lower capacity for intelligence than the citizens of other states.

Gale

January 9th, 2013
8:47 am

“Blah people” Nice one, dB.

Paul

January 9th, 2013
8:48 am

“So, now we are to believe that all of these poverty numbers by the more unfortunate among us have just occurred during the last decade”

Ummmm…. no.

How on earth did you get that conclusion from reading the piece?

It’s like saying “we got this new integrated pharmacy tracking system put in. Cost $5 million.” “Does it work?” “Depends. Takes us just as long to fill a prescription. Can’t do autorefills. We have the same error rate.”

“So, now we are to believe that all these pharmacy problems just started since we put in or $5 million system?!!?”

fedup

January 9th, 2013
8:48 am

And we have given tax breaks to the job creators and still not come here. Dang.

SBinF

January 9th, 2013
8:49 am

Things have only gone downhill since we got one of those Blah people in the White House.

Our poor country….that was built in large part on the backs of Blah people is now being torn down by Blah people.

The Thin Guy

January 9th, 2013
8:50 am

For years Clayton County was the laughingstock of metropolitan Atlanta. Now the county I live in, Dekalb, is in the sweepstakes with the school system facing a loss of accreditation and the CEO facing indictment for corruption. So what incentive would companies have to move to Dekalb where the officials running the government are either incompetent or corrupt or both? And, BTW, we are also broke. What do Clayton and Dekalb have in common? They are both run by the Demoncrap Party. Each year my property taxes go down as the assessed value of my house plummets. Thanks Demoncraps. You have ruined my country, my state, my city, my house, and my life. The only difference between the Taliban and the Demoncraps in at least the Taliban have morals.

clem

January 9th, 2013
8:52 am

in ga, goatropers abound

Lynnie Gal

January 9th, 2013
8:53 am

Giving tax breaks to businesses does not create jobs. It creates wealthier CEO’s and shareholders, but does not create jobs. What creates jobs is DEMAND. A company will hire more workers when they have more customers. Tax breaks just go into their pockets. That’s one basic economic fact that Republicans everywhere miss. In Georgia, we’re at a tipping point with business vs. people of the state. Georgia isn’t investing in education, training, health care, and the general well-being of its people. Businesses will not invest in a state with uneducated, poor, sick people because not only are the employees going to be inferior, but they won’t have any customers. This is the path we are on in Georgia.

TaxPayer

January 9th, 2013
8:53 am

kayaker is sticking to his story that the Republicans just need another 120 years to turn around the 130 years worth of damage done by Democrats. :lol:

Joe Hussein Mama

January 9th, 2013
8:54 am

T. T. Guy — “They are both run by the Demoncrap Party. Each year my property taxes go down as the assessed value of my house plummets. Thanks Demoncraps. You have ruined my country, my state, my city, my house, and my life. The only difference between the Taliban and the Demoncraps in at least the Taliban have morals.”

Anyone who is a serious adult and who has a serious point to make will do so without using cutesy names like “demoncraps.”

Thanks for letting folks know that you don’t need to be listened to, let alone taken seriously.

TaxPayer

January 9th, 2013
8:55 am

The thin guy praises Allah. Bless his heart.

Jay

January 9th, 2013
8:57 am

Gee, Thin Guy, maybe you could evade that corruption by moving to GOP-dominated Gwinnett.

Ooops.

NA

January 9th, 2013
8:58 am

Boy, your a real negative type aren’t you Jay
Never see any silver linings to anything.
if Obama would come back to earth and realize that federal corporate tax codes keep large companies out of the USA and set the tax codes to draw these companies back we would have increased revenues, lower unemployment but noooooooooooooooooo Obama works on kill the golden goose ———- take from the evil rich and now the evil middle class to give to not only the poor but the people unwilling to work or achieve……………

TaxPayer

January 9th, 2013
8:59 am

Fortunately for us, Republicans have already fixed Georgia’s education problem by giving us the option to send children to taxpayer subsidized for-profit larning centers. What will these larned Republicans focus on next. I’m guessing something to do with abortions.

clem

January 9th, 2013
8:59 am

thin guy, you are right dekalb is a disgrace. black leadership just emulating previous white leaders who were better at taking from system in a more covert way. but the fall of dekalb aided and abetted by republicans too with the great crash of 2008. any truthful observer would know it is just not dems. ga has had republicans in charge since 2003. how many years do they get a pass?

stands for decibels

January 9th, 2013
9:00 am

Georgia was a reasonably progressive state

And to back that up, and to understand just how big a step backward we’ve taken since then:

Just try to imagine Deal or Perdue initiating a Hope Scholarship program in this millennium, had such a thing not been already established.

Consider what would happen if either of those guys were to say, “You know, we ought to provide tuition to each and every Georgian so long as they maintain a decent average and go to a Georgia college or vo-tech.

Let’s face facts: Those poor sods would be dragged behind a pickup truck for even suggesting such a thing. Or, at best, be placed under some sort of involuntary psychiatric care to locate the source of their mental illness.

TaxPayer

January 9th, 2013
9:01 am

Finally! A con blames Obama for the failure that is Georgia’s Republican “leadership”.

DannyX

January 9th, 2013
9:01 am

The Thin Guy, I guess Gwinnett County and the state of Georgia are also run by Blah people.

straitroad

January 9th, 2013
9:01 am

Jay

January 9th, 2013
8:57 am

That’s a pretty weak comparison.

GT

January 9th, 2013
9:03 am

Danny X you nailed it.

What Georgia needs is internal growth, home grown businesses like we had decades ago. We have a bunch of me too leaders now who bring something outside the box in thinking but copy other losers like Arizona or southern states in policy making then find themselves begging and I mean begging for any crumb off the table.

We are not an atmosphere for odd people like Ted Turner any more. We cultivate a fear in this state, corrupt leaders use that fear to their advantage. People who live in fear are not creative people.

Brosephus™

January 9th, 2013
9:03 am

Geez, even with a temp of 102+, my 4yr old doesn’t have the whine capacity of these grown @ssed men here. Quit blaming Blacks and Democrats for your failures. Bush was in office a lot more recently than The Democratic Party had any power in Georgia.

RB from Gwinnett

January 9th, 2013
9:05 am

I can tell you from experience a company I once worked for was extremely hesitant to move manufacturing from a union environment up north to a south GA location because of the availabilty of an educated workforce. It goes beyond the lack of work ethic I complain about here often, it includes the employees ability to read work instructions, BOM’s, etc. Those 6th grade reading skills ain’t cuttin’ it.

They made the move only after the state agreed to establish a remedial traning program at a local tech school they could send the applicants who didn’t quite have what they needed to be successful.

Or you could ignore what business leaders ACTUALLY make decisions based on and go with whatever BS Jay dreams up.

Adam

January 9th, 2013
9:06 am

kayaker is back!

Adam

January 9th, 2013
9:07 am

They made the move only after the state agreed to establish a remedial traning program at a local tech school they could send the applicants who didn’t quite have what they needed to be successful.

That is still scraping the bottom of the barrel…

Doug B

January 9th, 2013
9:08 am

You misunderstand the goal, Jay. It’s not to reduce unemployment or raise per capita income. It’s to make the rich richer. We’re doing just fine in that metric.

DannyX

January 9th, 2013
9:08 am

“Bush was in office a lot more recently than The Democratic Party had any power in Georgia.”

Georgia Democrats also left the state in much better condition. Bush went into self imposed exile.

Steve

January 9th, 2013
9:08 am

Am I watching the movie Deliverance or is this a sane conversation in here. I think the former.

tiredofIT

January 9th, 2013
9:09 am

When every decision is based on the dollar, this is what you get.

Thomas Heyward Jr

January 9th, 2013
9:12 am

It’s not exactly easy to quickly repair 130 years of Democrat Lawyer/Legislators especially when you consider the relentless tide of yanks drowning our fair shores and hills …….escaping the places that they screwed up .
.
NO……..no matter how much Obama wants to Detroitize our great state and this country…..It ain’t gonna happen.
.
Decency will prevail.

clem

January 9th, 2013
9:14 am

ga repubs probably on side of aig which now wants to bring suit against usa.

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 9th, 2013
9:14 am

When you get Republican hillbillies running the state this is what you get.

TaxPayer

January 9th, 2013
9:15 am

And Thomas joins kayaker in proclaiming that all they needs is 130 years to fix what ails Georgia.

clem

January 9th, 2013
9:16 am

heyward, you are a dumarse, all these ga repubs were dems for the most part. it was slavery which set a whole group of folks back. how long to repair that injustice?

Joe Hussein Mama

January 9th, 2013
9:17 am

T. Heyward — “It’s not exactly easy to quickly repair 130 years of Democrat Lawyer/Legislators especially when you consider the relentless tide of yanks drowning our fair shores and hills …….escaping the places that they screwed up .”

Ah. So “yank” means “democrat” and they’re monolithic in thought and behavior, eh?

What an enlightening trip through your thought process. :roll:

Joe Hussein Mama

January 9th, 2013
9:19 am

C. Grits — “When you get Republican hillbillies running the state this is what you get.”

Nothing wrong with being a hillbilly; I come from good Appalachian hillbilly stock mah ownself.

And FWIW, I don’t see anything ‘hillbilly’ about GA Republicans. Petty, grasping, judgmental and thoughtless, sure. But not necessarily ‘hillbilly.’

Woody

January 9th, 2013
9:19 am

Thanks, Jay. Keep it up. We need to keep asking the question out loud, over and over and over again: Just exactly why is Georgia such a poor state?

The Carnivore

January 9th, 2013
9:19 am

Jay – You are mixing two unrelated items (apples and oranges). You are trying to tie recent business success into area demographics. Georgia’s demographics are never going to allow us near the top of certain categories. But that has little to do with the successful business climate we have created.

JamVet

January 9th, 2013
9:19 am

Sometimes I think the Thin Guy’s blood sugar is too low.

…after adjusting for inflation, state per capita income has declined by 3.5 percent since 2001.

Hurray for trickle down!!! We need more of it!!!

mm

January 9th, 2013
9:21 am

It’s the GOP way. Give corporations a free ride, then stick to the taxpaying citizens.

GB

January 9th, 2013
9:22 am

Skip

Your comment may have been a response to mine. I am not blaming blacks. I am simply stating facts. If Georgia blacks lagged behind Georgia whites and this trend did not follow form in the entire US, it would make sense to say “Georgia is doing something wrong.” However, this is not the case. The trend is nationwide. Blacks lag whites by every measure of social well being, and states’ rankings in these measures are very closely related to their demographics.

TaxPayer

January 9th, 2013
9:22 am

But that has little to do with the successful business climate we have created.

What is your definition of “successful”?

Oscar

January 9th, 2013
9:23 am

Georgia has always been mostly a rural, agricultural stste with little industry. Take a drive to Savannah on the back roads and then over to Columbus nd you will see. And then consider Atlanta’s problems. No mystry here.

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 9th, 2013
9:23 am

all these ga repubs were dems for the most part.

They dont like to admit that one. But its true

When LBJ signed the Civil Rights bill the Dixiecrats just became Republicans.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 9th, 2013
9:23 am

T. Carnivore — “But that has little to do with the successful business climate we have created.”

I thought anthropogenic climate change was supposed to be a load of bulldada.

Did a new GOP blast fax come through? :D

curious

January 9th, 2013
9:23 am

Now that everybody has identified the problem(s).

What are we going to do about it(them)?

Bob

January 9th, 2013
9:24 am

One trend not addressed is the migration of companies and people to southern states. I think it was Ohio and MI that lost seats in the house because people are leaving. more corporations like NCR are moving south than southern corporations are heading north. Georgia is still the same as it was 15 years ago other than the 100 year lock of dems running it has ended. The education system along with poverty and wages were near the bottom under dem reign and if they were still in charge the only thing differant is Jay and his peeps would not be bashing it.

Thulsa Doom

January 9th, 2013
9:25 am

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 9th, 2013
9:14 am
“When you get Republican hillbillies running the state this is what you get.”

Cheesy grits do like his race card with the hillbillies comment he do.

Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten

January 9th, 2013
9:25 am

But that has little to do with the successful business climate we have created.

By no metric is Georgia a successful business climate.

Georgia is an extremely poor state. One of the poorest in the country.