In November, Georgia was ranked 4th in the nation for its pro-business environment by Site Selection magazine, which specializes in corporate relocations. The Georgia Department of Economic Development was understandably quick to seize on that happy news, giving it prominent play on the department’s website.
Such rankings appear to validate a concerted, decade-long effort by Georgia’s leadership to make the state as business-friendly as possible. Our state and local business tax burden, for example, ranks eighth lowest in the country, according to a 2012 analysis by Ernst & Young. And as Site Selection noted approvingly, the 2012 Legislature continued that effort by eliminating the sales tax on energy used in manufacturing, enhancing tax incentives and “strengthening” open records laws by delaying public release of economic development deals.
When the 2013 Georgia Legislature convenes Monday, it will no doubt attempt to continue that crusade. For example, while state legislators are likely to approve using tax money to help finance a new stadium for the Atlanta Falcons, they could balk at renewing a much-needed hospital tax that will help keep tens of thousands of poor Georgians covered by Medicaid.
You see, using tax money to help the Falcons and the NFL, the most profitable sports league on the planet, is “economic development”, while helping poor families get medical coverage is considered welfare.
The larger question, however, is whether the state’s strategy is achieving its goals. And that in turn depends on what you choose to measure. For example, here is how Site Selection has ranked Georgia’s business climate each year from 2002-2012:
2002: 4th
2003: 7th
2004: 4th
2005: 3rd
2006: 4th
2007: 2nd
2008: 10th
2009: 8th
2010: 6th
2011: 2nd
2012: 4th
For more than a decade, in other words, Georgia has never ranked out of the top 10 for business climate, and over that period it has averaged in the top five. That tells us that year after year, for an extended amount of time, our leaders have succeeded in crafting government policy to produce exactly the kind of regulatory and tax environment that business leaders say they need to produce growth and prosperity. So by that measure it has been a great success.
But what do we have to show for it?
— We have an unemployment rate of 8.5 percent, significantly higher than the 7.8 percent national average and the ninth highest rate in the country, tied with Mississippi. And it is not a short-term phenomenon. Our unemployment rate has exceeded the national average for each of the last 64 months.
— In 2001, Georgia had the 17th highest poverty rate in the country. By 2011 it had the nation’s sixth highest poverty rate. We are slipping and slipping fast.
— In 2001, the state ranked 25th in per capita income and was rising rapidly in that critically important category; today, it ranks 39th in per capita income. In fact, after adjusting for inflation, state per capita income has declined by 3.5 percent since 2001.
To make matters worse, while trying to create a diligently “pro-business” environment, state government has also attempted to shrink the social safety net substantially. In a piece headlined “Georgia’s Hunger Games,” Slate reported last month that thanks to aggressive government efforts to deny benefits, fewer than 7 percent of the 300,000 Georgia households in poverty collect benefits through Temporary Assistance to Needy Families, more commonly known as welfare. Nationally, the comparable number is 27 percent.
Is that punitive approach working? Not so you’d notice. We also have the nation’s fifth highest rate of those without health insurance, and the fourth highest differential between rich and poor.
In other words, there is no sign that pursuit of a narrowly defined “business-friendly” climate has resulted in a more people-friendly climate. And isn’t that the real goal?
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N-GA
January 9th, 2013
7:54 am
And you didn’t even mention education……
N-GA
January 9th, 2013
7:54 am
Am I the only one awake????
Jm
January 9th, 2013
7:55 am
I’d argue a lackluster education system is more of the problem
Followed up by a distorted, messed up tax code no matter what site selection says
Site selection is more focused on regulatory hurdles on new industrial projects, incentives, and energy costs, primarily for industrial uses
That is not necessarily a recipe for success so I’d politely suggest that Jay and site selection’s metric isn’t the yard stick we should be using to determine if we’re biz friendly or not
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
7:56 am
naw, I called Sheetzies downstairs. They’ll be ’round in a minute.
N-GA
January 9th, 2013
7:56 am
What about traffic congestion?
barking frog
January 9th, 2013
7:58 am
Evidently businesses don’t pay much attention to the state rankings.
Thomas
January 9th, 2013
7:58 am
It would be interesting to include rankings of illegal immigration and new business growth in and outside of the City of Atlanta as well as unemployment in and outside of Atlanta.
Kasim Reed is very bright and definitely provides a lot more positive energy- at least the A town is turning the corner.
Jay- now that Krugman turned down Treasury Secretary are you being interviewed?
N-GA
January 9th, 2013
8:00 am
You would think that with a Representative like Paul Broun, businesses would be lining up to move to Georgia!
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
8:01 am
— In 2001, Georgia had the 17th highest poverty rate in the country. By 2011 it had the nation’s sixth highest poverty rate. We are slipping and slipping fast.
— In 2001, the state ranked 25th in per capita income and was rising rapidly in that critically important category; today, it ranks 39th in per capita income. In fact, after adjusting for inflation, state per capita income has declined by 3.5 percent since 2001.
From what I can tell, we went from a mildly progressive, dragged-kicked-and-screaming-into-the-20th-century form of governance under the blue-doggy stylings of Zell and Roy, to a reversion to the conservative mean since Nixon’s Southern Strategy finally took hold here in Jan. 2003.
But I’m just some clueless Yankee so what do I know.
Brad Steel
January 9th, 2013
8:01 am
On the positive side, I hear we catching up with Mississippi in the prevention of rickets.
N-GA
January 9th, 2013
8:04 am
Hire Ralph Reed to lure more casino business here.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
8:04 am
On the one side, you have “Pro business.”
On the other side you have pro economy, pro worker, and pro growth.
There is clearly a conflict between these sides. What is pro business may only be good for businesses, and not for anyone else, not even the people that work there.
Mr. Snarky
January 9th, 2013
8:07 am
Maybe business leaders see a bunch of bass ackwards ignorant and yet shady individuals in our elected positions and think “don’t want to go there!”.
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
8:07 am
reversion to the conservative mean
And yes, in case anyone was wondering–pun intended.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
8:07 am
Jay,
You are clearly lacking access to the Republican party’s unskewed data that shows the greatness of their work. Perhaps a call in to Karl Rove for your own personalized access to their database is in order.
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
8:09 am
“Pro Business” usually means “Pro Whichever Business is Lining My Pocket.”
GB
January 9th, 2013
8:09 am
The poor rankings are largely a reflection of Georgia’s demographics. Our population is about 30% black, close to three times the % of the nation as a whole. Blacks everywhere in the US have higher rates of unemployment and lower income. Any analysis that does not take demographics into account is incomplete.
Aquagirl
January 9th, 2013
8:11 am
with a Representative like Paul Broun, businesses would be lining up to move to Georgia!
Georgia: the promised land for taxidermists.
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/gop-congressman-evolution-big-bang-lies-straight-from-the-pit-of-hell/politics/2012/10/05/50403
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 9th, 2013
8:12 am
Well, the reason we got such a passel of poor folks is because they don’t create jobs, and the reason we don’t have enough jobs is because we got so many poor folks.
Or something like that. I get so bumfuzzled when I think about it.
Have a good Hump Day everybody.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
8:12 am
“Legislature not likely to do much for transit”
Come to Georgia! We offer an uneducated work force that can’t get to their jobs. We now lead the nation in new abortion laws per year! We are strongly anti-Agenda 21.
Ken
January 9th, 2013
8:14 am
Ya think Jay will write about Al Gore’s sell out of Current ? Lots of Mid East PORK for Al. And how many millions has he made with his global warming funniness ? Just a big hypocrite.
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
8:14 am
Site Selection magazine, heretofore unknown to yrs trly, appears to be a treasure trove of literally scare-the-living-crap-outa-you info.
frinstance:
http://www.siteselection.com/issues/2013/jan/selectors-survey.cfm
Right-to-work status may not be absolutely necessary for a state to win a project, the site consultants said, but in about half of all projects the states that do not have right-to-work laws will probably be screened out of the running at the first stage.
Reminds me of a great tune from a great band:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKNF1J6wbRk
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
8:15 am
The word under the dome is that the failures of the Republican party, both here and elsewhere, is Obama’s fault.
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
8:15 am
“Why Ga. has so little to show for being so ‘business friendly’”
B/c businesses are being greedy, holding onto their money, and not hiring.
Johnny Reb
January 9th, 2013
8:16 am
Jay, it seems Georgia had more business when we had the Confederate battle symbol on our state flag.
Since its been changed (twice now), Georgia can’t seem to attract flies to do business here.
Surely a coincidence?
Thomas
January 9th, 2013
8:16 am
You are making the same argument that the “con” make against stimulus to which the libs reply “unemployment would have been more than 10% but for the stimulus”
Having Kia an automotive foot print is great.
Skip
January 9th, 2013
8:18 am
Thank God for the Blacks, if not for them who could we blame? How about the Yankees?
Just Saying ...
January 9th, 2013
8:18 am
“The poor rankings are largely a reflection of Georgia’s demographics. Our population is about 30% black, close to three times the % of the nation as a whole. Blacks everywhere in the US have higher rates of unemployment and lower income.” – GB
Its always the “Blacks” fault !
W Chan
January 9th, 2013
8:18 am
They obviously have not done business in Dekalb County
Gale
January 9th, 2013
8:18 am
Seems like a big factor for “business friendly” is that the state will let you pay employees with peanuts.
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
8:20 am
B/c businesses are being greedy, holding onto their money, and not hiring.
Aka entrepreneurial, thrifty, and efficient.
Which is why Government should never, ever be “run like a business,” and why even dumb average Americans of voting age realize, generally, that rich CEOs would make terrible Presidents. In case anyone wondered.
indigo
January 9th, 2013
8:22 am
It’s hard to know why this “pro-business” initiative has not worked.
However, it’s no problem at all knowing why Georgia’s Republican Legislature has gone all out to court the rich while turning a blind eye to the poor.
Big Business sponsors Republican election and re-election campaigns so Republicans naturally toady to them.
Poor Georgians, on the other hand, can not offer any financial help to the Republicans and, consequently, get nothing but contempt from GOP lawmakers.
Hey, is this a great country or what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
8:23 am
Anyone read about AIG maybe suing the gov’t b/c the bailout agreement was unfair? WOW!
Adam
January 9th, 2013
8:24 am
stands: Aka entrepreneurial, thrifty, and efficient.
Which is why Government should never, ever be “run like a business,”
Is there a clapping or standing ovation icon?
Shar
January 9th, 2013
8:25 am
“Pro-business” has degenerated into “pro-business profits.” Tax breaks such as the Delta jet fuel exemption, the sales tax on energy used for manufacturing, the huge giveaways for relocating businesses are put into the pockets of the “job creators”, with the dribbles tossed to the slavering politicians who handed out the tax-funded goodies much as medieval lords threw bones from the table to the dogs. The notion that “pro-business” should mean an increase in jobs, in local tax bases, in investment has largely been lost in the symbiotic self-interest of business heads and politicians. The notion of civic responsibility and shared prosperity have largely been lost as the political and business elites have insulated themselves from the rest of us with giant piles of cash.
For an exception, I’d offer Mount Vernon Mills in Trion, GA. The leaders of that business share civic life with employees and feel a true sense of shared responsibility. The mill continues to provide jobs in a tough industry and a tough area. Those folks restore faith in American business practice.
Tim Ryles
January 9th, 2013
8:25 am
Consider the possibility that all of that pro-business, government directed “capitalism” is designed to create an environment for protecting existing businesses from any state regulation, not to attract new business. A genuine pro-business policy would first invest in and protect its citizens against exploitation via a first rate educational system, insisting that business pay its fair share, and when public money is involved grant the public a means of control, just to mention a few alternatives. The mutual dependency of government and business in this state weakens the roles of both.
Paul
January 9th, 2013
8:26 am
If only poor people and unemployed people and sick people could make campaign contributions and hire lobbyists…..
Really, it’s another fine example of ideology devoid of thought.
JF McNamara
January 9th, 2013
8:26 am
It has resulted in greater perks for our legislators.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
8:27 am
Peadawg: Anyone read about AIG maybe suing the gov’t b/c the bailout agreement was unfair?
Yeah, crazy huh?
I’ll comment on that more after the general topic comments have died.
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
8:28 am
Anyone read about AIG maybe suing the gov’t b/c the bailout agreement was unfair?
No, but I heard snippets of the story from Rachel on my TV while flipping away from Food Network during the Chopped commercial breaks.
(that’s how engaged I am, of late, in national political skullduggery. It’s like every story just gets more horrible than the next.)
GT
January 9th, 2013
8:28 am
We are a people that live in the desert but give farming advice to the gardens of Eden around the world.
The Kia plant was built seven miles from the Alabama border, allowing for easy access to the citizens of Alabama for employment on Georgia’s tax dollar. A good percent of that plant and many of its suppliers live in Alabama.
The quality of state leadership has gotten commoner and commoner as the decades have past. From the days of successful business men like Carl Sanders, Jimmy Carter, George Busby we have retreated to people who come to office with questionable character and no resume for success. We pride ourselves on meanest, lies and stupidity, and pick our leaders as such. The north, the minority, the foreigners, the educated are all our enemies, and we live in Gone with the Wind property to show the world we got what it takes.
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
8:30 am
Is there a clapping or standing ovation icon?
No. However, I’ll accept a modest donation made to, say, Earth Justice or suchlike in my name instead.
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
8:35 am
Its always the “Blacks” fault !
Not “black people.” “Blah people.”
straitroad
January 9th, 2013
8:40 am
Jay, if you had to choose another state or states for Georgia to model itself after, which one(s) would you pick?
kayaker 71
January 9th, 2013
8:40 am
So, now we are to believe that all of these poverty numbers by the more unfortunate among us have just occurred during the last decade when those evil Repubs were controlling the legislature and the governors office. We certainly didn’t have a problem during the last 130 preceding years when those heroes of the downtrodden were spending Georgia tax dollars. Nah…… all of those conscientious, honest, progressive Democratic legislators were at the pinnacle of correctness and looked upon the have nots with a sense of dedication and responsibility.
Damn, Bookman. You sure have a way of only telling half the story.
godless heathen
January 9th, 2013
8:41 am
More than one-third of the young persons in this state do not obtain the freely provided high school diploma.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
8:43 am
GT, excellent comment on Georgia leadership.
What a wonderful 10 years it’s been since Republicans took over. Sonny Perdue built a shipping empire. Linda Schrenko got a face lift. Glenn Richardson had an affair with a lobbyist. Nathan Deal defended a nice no-bid government contract, went bankrupt, and filled important positions with his friends and family plan. Chip Rogers and Tom Graves got a no-collateral, “we could never pay it back” $2.1 million roach motel loan. The chairs of the House and Senate banking committees are involved with failed banks. Georgia Power gets an obscene residential customer financed power plant deal. John Ralston takes a nice family vacation. Don Balfour steals taxpayer money. John Oxendine is run out of town. Ralph Reed sold his soul to the devil. State legislators eat from the lobby trough.
Someone call Beth Merkleson, Republicans are out of control.
godless heathen
January 9th, 2013
8:43 am
Things would sure be better if Georgia ranked near the bottom in pro-business environment scale.
Cherokee
January 9th, 2013
8:43 am
And what does Algore and Current TV have to do with Georgia business practices, Ken?
curious
January 9th, 2013
8:45 am
The way our Government deals with social issues and looks after its citizens is the true indicator of its character.
Business leaders see this and make decisions based on that.
We’re in the “Race to the bottom”.
Before you say it, if your’re not over 67 years old and a native of Georgia, don’t tell me to leave.
SBinF
January 9th, 2013
8:45 am
“The poor rankings are largely a reflection of Georgia’s demographics. Our population is about 30% black, close to three times the % of the nation as a whole. Blacks everywhere in the US have higher rates of unemployment and lower income. Any analysis that does not take demographics into account is incomplete.”
Ahh yes, blame the blacks. It didn’t take long to trot that one out.
Cherokee
January 9th, 2013
8:46 am
SFD and Danny, well said. Georgia was a reasonably progressive state with good business opportunities until the Republcans took over. Been downhill ever since.
Simple Truths
January 9th, 2013
8:47 am
Maybe people in Georgia have a lower capacity for intelligence than the citizens of other states.
Gale
January 9th, 2013
8:47 am
“Blah people” Nice one, dB.
Paul
January 9th, 2013
8:48 am
“So, now we are to believe that all of these poverty numbers by the more unfortunate among us have just occurred during the last decade”
Ummmm…. no.
How on earth did you get that conclusion from reading the piece?
It’s like saying “we got this new integrated pharmacy tracking system put in. Cost $5 million.” “Does it work?” “Depends. Takes us just as long to fill a prescription. Can’t do autorefills. We have the same error rate.”
“So, now we are to believe that all these pharmacy problems just started since we put in or $5 million system?!!?”
fedup
January 9th, 2013
8:48 am
And we have given tax breaks to the job creators and still not come here. Dang.
SBinF
January 9th, 2013
8:49 am
Things have only gone downhill since we got one of those Blah people in the White House.
Our poor country….that was built in large part on the backs of Blah people is now being torn down by Blah people.
The Thin Guy
January 9th, 2013
8:50 am
For years Clayton County was the laughingstock of metropolitan Atlanta. Now the county I live in, Dekalb, is in the sweepstakes with the school system facing a loss of accreditation and the CEO facing indictment for corruption. So what incentive would companies have to move to Dekalb where the officials running the government are either incompetent or corrupt or both? And, BTW, we are also broke. What do Clayton and Dekalb have in common? They are both run by the Demoncrap Party. Each year my property taxes go down as the assessed value of my house plummets. Thanks Demoncraps. You have ruined my country, my state, my city, my house, and my life. The only difference between the Taliban and the Demoncraps in at least the Taliban have morals.
clem
January 9th, 2013
8:52 am
in ga, goatropers abound
Lynnie Gal
January 9th, 2013
8:53 am
Giving tax breaks to businesses does not create jobs. It creates wealthier CEO’s and shareholders, but does not create jobs. What creates jobs is DEMAND. A company will hire more workers when they have more customers. Tax breaks just go into their pockets. That’s one basic economic fact that Republicans everywhere miss. In Georgia, we’re at a tipping point with business vs. people of the state. Georgia isn’t investing in education, training, health care, and the general well-being of its people. Businesses will not invest in a state with uneducated, poor, sick people because not only are the employees going to be inferior, but they won’t have any customers. This is the path we are on in Georgia.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
8:53 am
kayaker is sticking to his story that the Republicans just need another 120 years to turn around the 130 years worth of damage done by Democrats.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
8:54 am
T. T. Guy — “They are both run by the Demoncrap Party. Each year my property taxes go down as the assessed value of my house plummets. Thanks Demoncraps. You have ruined my country, my state, my city, my house, and my life. The only difference between the Taliban and the Demoncraps in at least the Taliban have morals.”
Anyone who is a serious adult and who has a serious point to make will do so without using cutesy names like “demoncraps.”
Thanks for letting folks know that you don’t need to be listened to, let alone taken seriously.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
8:55 am
The thin guy praises Allah. Bless his heart.
Jay
January 9th, 2013
8:57 am
Gee, Thin Guy, maybe you could evade that corruption by moving to GOP-dominated Gwinnett.
Ooops.
NA
January 9th, 2013
8:58 am
Boy, your a real negative type aren’t you Jay
Never see any silver linings to anything.
if Obama would come back to earth and realize that federal corporate tax codes keep large companies out of the USA and set the tax codes to draw these companies back we would have increased revenues, lower unemployment but noooooooooooooooooo Obama works on kill the golden goose ———- take from the evil rich and now the evil middle class to give to not only the poor but the people unwilling to work or achieve……………
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
8:59 am
Fortunately for us, Republicans have already fixed Georgia’s education problem by giving us the option to send children to taxpayer subsidized for-profit larning centers. What will these larned Republicans focus on next. I’m guessing something to do with abortions.
clem
January 9th, 2013
8:59 am
thin guy, you are right dekalb is a disgrace. black leadership just emulating previous white leaders who were better at taking from system in a more covert way. but the fall of dekalb aided and abetted by republicans too with the great crash of 2008. any truthful observer would know it is just not dems. ga has had republicans in charge since 2003. how many years do they get a pass?
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
9:00 am
Georgia was a reasonably progressive state
And to back that up, and to understand just how big a step backward we’ve taken since then:
Just try to imagine Deal or Perdue initiating a Hope Scholarship program in this millennium, had such a thing not been already established.
Consider what would happen if either of those guys were to say, “You know, we ought to provide tuition to each and every Georgian so long as they maintain a decent average and go to a Georgia college or vo-tech.
Let’s face facts: Those poor sods would be dragged behind a pickup truck for even suggesting such a thing. Or, at best, be placed under some sort of involuntary psychiatric care to locate the source of their mental illness.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
9:01 am
Finally! A con blames Obama for the failure that is Georgia’s Republican “leadership”.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
9:01 am
The Thin Guy, I guess Gwinnett County and the state of Georgia are also run by Blah people.
straitroad
January 9th, 2013
9:01 am
Jay
January 9th, 2013
8:57 am
That’s a pretty weak comparison.
GT
January 9th, 2013
9:03 am
Danny X you nailed it.
What Georgia needs is internal growth, home grown businesses like we had decades ago. We have a bunch of me too leaders now who bring something outside the box in thinking but copy other losers like Arizona or southern states in policy making then find themselves begging and I mean begging for any crumb off the table.
We are not an atmosphere for odd people like Ted Turner any more. We cultivate a fear in this state, corrupt leaders use that fear to their advantage. People who live in fear are not creative people.
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
9:03 am
Geez, even with a temp of 102+, my 4yr old doesn’t have the whine capacity of these grown @ssed men here. Quit blaming Blacks and Democrats for your failures. Bush was in office a lot more recently than The Democratic Party had any power in Georgia.
RB from Gwinnett
January 9th, 2013
9:05 am
I can tell you from experience a company I once worked for was extremely hesitant to move manufacturing from a union environment up north to a south GA location because of the availabilty of an educated workforce. It goes beyond the lack of work ethic I complain about here often, it includes the employees ability to read work instructions, BOM’s, etc. Those 6th grade reading skills ain’t cuttin’ it.
They made the move only after the state agreed to establish a remedial traning program at a local tech school they could send the applicants who didn’t quite have what they needed to be successful.
Or you could ignore what business leaders ACTUALLY make decisions based on and go with whatever BS Jay dreams up.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
9:06 am
kayaker is back!
Adam
January 9th, 2013
9:07 am
They made the move only after the state agreed to establish a remedial traning program at a local tech school they could send the applicants who didn’t quite have what they needed to be successful.
That is still scraping the bottom of the barrel…
Doug B
January 9th, 2013
9:08 am
You misunderstand the goal, Jay. It’s not to reduce unemployment or raise per capita income. It’s to make the rich richer. We’re doing just fine in that metric.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
9:08 am
“Bush was in office a lot more recently than The Democratic Party had any power in Georgia.”
Georgia Democrats also left the state in much better condition. Bush went into self imposed exile.
Steve
January 9th, 2013
9:08 am
Am I watching the movie Deliverance or is this a sane conversation in here. I think the former.
tiredofIT
January 9th, 2013
9:09 am
When every decision is based on the dollar, this is what you get.
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 9th, 2013
9:12 am
It’s not exactly easy to quickly repair 130 years of Democrat Lawyer/Legislators especially when you consider the relentless tide of yanks drowning our fair shores and hills …….escaping the places that they screwed up .
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NO……..no matter how much Obama wants to Detroitize our great state and this country…..It ain’t gonna happen.
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Decency will prevail.
clem
January 9th, 2013
9:14 am
ga repubs probably on side of aig which now wants to bring suit against usa.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
9:14 am
When you get Republican hillbillies running the state this is what you get.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
9:15 am
And Thomas joins kayaker in proclaiming that all they needs is 130 years to fix what ails Georgia.
clem
January 9th, 2013
9:16 am
heyward, you are a dumarse, all these ga repubs were dems for the most part. it was slavery which set a whole group of folks back. how long to repair that injustice?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
9:17 am
T. Heyward — “It’s not exactly easy to quickly repair 130 years of Democrat Lawyer/Legislators especially when you consider the relentless tide of yanks drowning our fair shores and hills …….escaping the places that they screwed up .”
Ah. So “yank” means “democrat” and they’re monolithic in thought and behavior, eh?
What an enlightening trip through your thought process.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
9:19 am
C. Grits — “When you get Republican hillbillies running the state this is what you get.”
Nothing wrong with being a hillbilly; I come from good Appalachian hillbilly stock mah ownself.
And FWIW, I don’t see anything ‘hillbilly’ about GA Republicans. Petty, grasping, judgmental and thoughtless, sure. But not necessarily ‘hillbilly.’
Woody
January 9th, 2013
9:19 am
Thanks, Jay. Keep it up. We need to keep asking the question out loud, over and over and over again: Just exactly why is Georgia such a poor state?
The Carnivore
January 9th, 2013
9:19 am
Jay – You are mixing two unrelated items (apples and oranges). You are trying to tie recent business success into area demographics. Georgia’s demographics are never going to allow us near the top of certain categories. But that has little to do with the successful business climate we have created.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
9:19 am
Sometimes I think the Thin Guy’s blood sugar is too low.
…after adjusting for inflation, state per capita income has declined by 3.5 percent since 2001.
Hurray for trickle down!!! We need more of it!!!
mm
January 9th, 2013
9:21 am
It’s the GOP way. Give corporations a free ride, then stick to the taxpaying citizens.
GB
January 9th, 2013
9:22 am
Skip
Your comment may have been a response to mine. I am not blaming blacks. I am simply stating facts. If Georgia blacks lagged behind Georgia whites and this trend did not follow form in the entire US, it would make sense to say “Georgia is doing something wrong.” However, this is not the case. The trend is nationwide. Blacks lag whites by every measure of social well being, and states’ rankings in these measures are very closely related to their demographics.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
9:22 am
But that has little to do with the successful business climate we have created.
What is your definition of “successful”?
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
9:23 am
Georgia has always been mostly a rural, agricultural stste with little industry. Take a drive to Savannah on the back roads and then over to Columbus nd you will see. And then consider Atlanta’s problems. No mystry here.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
9:23 am
all these ga repubs were dems for the most part.
They dont like to admit that one. But its true
When LBJ signed the Civil Rights bill the Dixiecrats just became Republicans.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
9:23 am
T. Carnivore — “But that has little to do with the successful business climate we have created.”
I thought anthropogenic climate change was supposed to be a load of bulldada.
Did a new GOP blast fax come through?
curious
January 9th, 2013
9:23 am
Now that everybody has identified the problem(s).
What are we going to do about it(them)?
Bob
January 9th, 2013
9:24 am
One trend not addressed is the migration of companies and people to southern states. I think it was Ohio and MI that lost seats in the house because people are leaving. more corporations like NCR are moving south than southern corporations are heading north. Georgia is still the same as it was 15 years ago other than the 100 year lock of dems running it has ended. The education system along with poverty and wages were near the bottom under dem reign and if they were still in charge the only thing differant is Jay and his peeps would not be bashing it.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
9:25 am
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
9:14 am
“When you get Republican hillbillies running the state this is what you get.”
Cheesy grits do like his race card with the hillbillies comment he do.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
9:25 am
But that has little to do with the successful business climate we have created.
By no metric is Georgia a successful business climate.
Georgia is an extremely poor state. One of the poorest in the country.
GB
January 9th, 2013
9:25 am
For Just Sayin
Same comment for you are for Skip. I am not “blaming” anybody or any group. If you think my explanation is faulty, you may want to explain why. Or just continue making snide remarks devoid of any real thought. Whatever you prefer.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
9:25 am
“It’s the GOP way. Give corporations a free ride, then stick to the taxpaying citizens”
… well, not the rich ones, anyway …
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
9:25 am
What are we going to do about it(them)?
We gots to give the Republicans 130 years to sort thangs out.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
9:26 am
Cheesy grits do like his race card with the hillbillies comment he do.
Yassir. Just callsen em likes I sees em.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
9:26 am
…all these ga repubs were dems for the most part.
That one inescapable fact seems to………….. escape………….. our so-called conservatives…
Segregation yesterday! Segregation tomorrow! Segregation forever!
And to SBinF’s point, it so damn bad that we’ve got uppity blah people in the White House! (grin!)
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
9:26 am
Don’t insult hillbillbies by compring them to the people running this state. Insult to hillbillies everywhere.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
9:26 am
42-14. Moral of the story- Don’t bring a leprechaun to an elephant fight!
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
9:27 am
Well every con knows that the blahs here in Georgia are the only ones that are unemployed and that is so because of their lack of a proper education and work ethic.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
9:27 am
LOL
But in a Tuesday phone interview with TheDC, Armey insisted that even though Strupp properly identified himself, it wasn’t until “somebody busted my chops on Facebook” that he realized spoke to a left-wing group.
“I wouldn’t know Media Matters from a hole in the wall,” the 72-year-old told TheDC. “That was a major, big screw up on my part. I thought they were somebody else.”
When asked who he thought Media Matters was, Armey replied, “Who’s the guy with the red beard that always does the show where he points out how biased the press is?”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/dick-armey-on-why-he-gave-that-interview-to-media-matters/#ixzz2HULT26B7
Apparently he thought he was talking to the Media Research Center. DOH!
File under: “Adam doesn’t just read left wing sites.” ATTN: Fred and TBG
jarvis
January 9th, 2013
9:28 am
My goal is to grow in my career and work for solid organizations. I’ve prepared myself and am reaping the benefits of said preparations. I applaud the state.
Clearly my goals are different from Jay’s.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
9:28 am
Hillbillies is a race!
Tundra Dude
January 9th, 2013
9:28 am
Doug wrote:
You misunderstand the goal, Jay. It’s not to reduce unemployment or raise per capita income. It’s to make the rich richer. We’re doing just fine in that metric.
Aww bummer! (stole my thunder)
Adam
January 9th, 2013
9:28 am
Peadawg: Back to AIG: I really REALLY hope that the board doesn’t agree to join in. That’s a big “FU” after that ad campaign they ran.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
9:28 am
One thing you an count on and is universal in our politics today.
The poorer and dumber a state.
The redder it is.
All “moocher” states.
Id put it at about 50/50 whether the South would even have electricity today without the Federal Government.
tiredofIT
January 9th, 2013
9:29 am
mm
January 9th, 2013
9:21 am
It’s the GOP way. Give corporations a free ride, then stick to the taxpaying citizens.
++
Yes, corporations love to privatize profits and socialize losses.
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 9th, 2013
9:29 am
clem
January 9th, 2013
9:16 am
heyward, you are a dumarse, all these ga repubs were dems for the most part.
———————————————————————————————————–
.
I know.
That’s why it takes time to get them out.
One can still smell the residue when one is around the capital.
That’s also why one should be extremely hesitant in voting for republicans.(probably a good idea just not to).
And NEVER vote for a lawyer.(lawschool bleaches the ethics AND decency out of them..somehow).
.
Georgia has one of the highest vote-getting Libertrian Party in the nation…therefore, our state is bound to keep improving.
.
Forward Decency!
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
9:29 am
“The poor rankings are largely a reflection of Georgia’s demographics. Our population is about 30% black, close to three times the % of the nation as a whole. Blacks everywhere in the US have higher rates of unemployment and lower income. Any analysis that does not take demographics into account is incomplete.”- GB
Speaking of race and demographics it looked like GB opened up the proverbial can of worms.
GB
January 9th, 2013
9:30 am
SBinF
I see you share Skip’s and Just Sayin’s disapproval of my comment, but like them you have no facts to present or arguments to make. You just imply that my comment was racist. You may want to check out some facts and do some critical thinking. Or you can just call people racists. Doesn’t really matter to me.
tiredofIT
January 9th, 2013
9:30 am
Georgia has one of the highest vote-getting Libertrian Party in the nation…therefore, our state is bound to keep improving.
++
Where has this ever worked. Another slot party.
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
9:31 am
Hillbillies are people who live in the southern mountains. Not a race.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
9:31 am
Cheesey Grits: The poorer and dumber a state.
The redder it is.
Cue the same people who argue that climate change isn’t real to say something about how “not ALL red states are like that.” They need it to be 100% true. No, scratch that. Even then they would still argue with you about it.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
9:32 am
Next they’ll be telling us Climate Change isn’t real
Oh wait…..
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
9:33 am
FDRand the New Deal brought electricity to the rual souht and midwest and west.
Patrick
January 9th, 2013
9:33 am
Apparently Jay has never even been exposed to a Logic course let alone completed one. This is one of the most convoluted column he has ever produced and painful to read.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
9:33 am
Taxpayer — “Hillbillies is a race!”
It was hillbillies racin’ what gave NASCAR its start.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
9:33 am
“The poorer and dumber a state.
The redder it is.
All “moocher” states”
Demographics son. Demographics. And about 150 years of Democratic blue state rule while the Red state north advanced. Only in the past few decades have the roles reversed and the south become red with the north becoming blue. And only in the past few decades have those now blue northern states begun to decline, decay, and stagnate while the now red Southern states are gaining in population and jobs. Funny how that happens.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
9:34 am
“Don’t insult hillbillbies by compring them to the people running this state. Insult to hillbillies everywhere.”
yay-hoos, then?
Mike
January 9th, 2013
9:34 am
Jay, the assumption, or belief that the national unemployment rate being stated is really 7.8% is probably questionable. Just as any government claim and it’s true accuracy can be questioned. The fact that our federal government decided to exclude people who just gave up and quit looking for work, were left off this total, makes the number questionable. I think the true unemployment rate, if those people were actually counted, would be more in the 12-14% range.
LR
January 9th, 2013
9:34 am
What would the economic picture look like if were not business friendly and the jobs went elsewhere?
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
9:34 am
Hillbilly Racers! Ohhhh! I get it.
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
9:35 am
Doom
GB played the race card. You don’t see it that way because you agree with him instead of disagreeing.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
9:35 am
LOL.
You beat me to it Adam.
jarvis
January 9th, 2013
9:36 am
Yet the poorest and dumbest areas of our red state are the blue districts. Perplexing.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
9:36 am
Now the cons have done upped the ante. The problem here in Georgia is now the “fact” that we was ruled by Democrats for 150 years. That gives the Republicans another 20 years on top of the 130 that they done claimed to need to turn thangs around.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
9:37 am
Cheesy: Did I call it or what?
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
9:38 am
JAY
Comparison to 2001 is not remotely credible. You appear to submitting another attack on the idiots controlling the state but this dog clearly won’t hunt…I’m finding that the top five states for business climate only one (Texas) is in the top 20 of unemployment. Of course Texas has the Gas, Oil and Energy sectors which shield it somewhat compared to other states. All the others TN, FL GA, and NC don’t even make it in the top 30.
So I’m thinking that general business conditions across the country as well as demand shortage make it difficult for any business to risk capital toward moving employees to any state..
Also, you can’t hide the education problem…
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
9:38 am
“This is one of the most convoluted column he has ever produced and painful to read.”
The simpleton libs do love they simpleton answers. The reality and explanations behind the stats Jay posed are much lengthier in explanation than just to say its the Rs fault in a few hundred words. And plus the livlibs do love they raw red meat in the morning. Jay’s got em frothing and whipped into a frenzy already.
GB
January 9th, 2013
9:38 am
Has anyone noticed how cumbersome it is to report offensive language? All the posts with “hillbillies” should be eliminated, but (1) it takes too much effort to flag them and (2) the AJC censors don’t care. Only certain ethnic slurs and insults are permitted. And we know which one is not! The one that starts with the 14th letter of the English language and is less likely to appear in print the vulgar word starting with the sixth letter.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
9:39 am
This is one of the most convoluted column he has ever produced and painful to read.
And your plethora of well stated and thought out counter-points are extremely compelling, Patrick.
Kudos, sir!
Redcoat
January 9th, 2013
9:39 am
Running a profitable company is easy to do, anyone can do it……..just ask Jay, he’s knows how.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
9:39 am
FDRand the New Deal brought electricity to the rual souht and midwest and west.
Right. The Federal government.
Thank God they did. This is not something the South could do on its own.
Not even today.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
9:40 am
Mike: The BLS measures exactly what you said:
http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab15.htm
If you pay attention to the numbers, you’ll notice that each and every metric has declined at pretty much the same rate as the “official” U-3 unemployment rate.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 9th, 2013
9:40 am
“When the 2013 Georgia Legislature convenes Monday, it will no doubt attempt to continue that crusade.”
I can’t believe Jay used the word “crusade”. That is so sensitive and could offend some people.
Oh well ………………………
St Simons - aboriginal Bootakook 2014
January 9th, 2013
9:40 am
well, there’s a lot more Republican politicians golfing, yachting,
and sippin mint juleps down heah at the Cloister. so there, mr man
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
9:41 am
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
9:36 am
I think it matters not which party is in control…global competition, lack of demand and no small amount of uncertainty keep companies from investing in new facilities and/or moving from one state (where they may very well be getting preferential treatment) to another. The general business climate sucks and neither party can do jack about it..
Tony
January 9th, 2013
9:41 am
We may be ranked high…but not for internet retailers. I just moved my business from Georgia to Delaware because of the new Nexus law. Sorry Georgia, no more revenue for you.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
9:41 am
Mike: Tick the “Include graphs” checkbox if you need a visual representation.
GB
January 9th, 2013
9:42 am
Brosephus
I am not playing the race card. You are doing what my other critics have done. But I am wrong in any way? Do blacks nationally NOT have a higher unemployment rate than whites? Are they NOT more likely to be poor? Does Ga NOT have a larger % of blacks than the nation as a whole? Are you capable of rational discussion? Or in your world is calling someone a racist an acceptable substitute for thought?
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
9:42 am
“Georgia has one of the highest vote-getting Libertrian Party in the nation…therefore, our state is bound to keep improving.”
Was that a joke? Georgia, the capitol of Red State America, should have a strong Tea Party. Georgia Republicans have proven just how phony the Tea Party really is. Unless of course the Tea Party stands for sitting at the lobby trough gobbling down lobby pork.
Republicans to Tea Party: You are not welcome here.
Jm
January 9th, 2013
9:42 am
Jay
Domestic Migration, by State and Region
New Data
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323482504578230082916437000.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories
FL, TX, NC doing very well. GA, not so much…..
Christian Conservative
January 9th, 2013
9:43 am
Jay:
Why do you want to talk down and denigrate the great success of bright red state Georgia? Lets go over why you point is so wrong and disproved.
— We have an unemployment rate of 8.5 percent, significantly higher than the 7.8 percent national average and the ninth highest rate in the country, tied with Mississippi. And it is not a short-term phenomenon. Our unemployment rate has exceeded the national average for each of the last 64 months.
The reason the unemployment rate is so high is because the federal gubmint continues to extend benefits. I personally know people who have no desire to work and would rather sit on their behind and be on the gubmint dole… Its demographics Jay. Plain and simple. If you cut off the benefits the leeches of society would get off their behinds and go to work if they want to eat…
— In 2001, Georgia had the 17th highest poverty rate in the country. By 2011 it had the nation’s sixth highest poverty rate. We are slipping and slipping fast.
Who’s fault is that? We as a state spend billions to try and improve the quality of life for the states citizens and it seems wasted. People simply want to live this way because they don’t want to work. When dems tout that the gubmint will feed you, cloth you, and house you where is the desire to do better?
— In 2001, the state ranked 25th in per capita income and was rising rapidly in that critically important category; today, it ranks 39th in per capita income. In fact, after adjusting for inflation, state per capita income has declined by 3.5 percent since 2001.
Its don’t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out Jay. This is being brought down because so many sit on their behinds and not work. They are counted in these calculations…
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
9:44 am
Brocephus,
I don’t think GB played the race card as much as he simply stated an uncomfortable truth that we don’t like to talk about. Demographics play a role and amongst blacks which make up a significant population in southern Red states incomes, employment levels, and educational attainment levels are going to be lower. That’s not a criticism of black people. Its just a current economic reality.
We can argue about the reasons behind why this is so- racism, poorer education systems, historic inequality, more single parent households, etc. but it doesn’t change the current realities.
Jm
January 9th, 2013
9:44 am
State ranking
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100013723
Category Score / 2012 Rank / 2011 Rank
Cost of Doing Business 228 14 18
Workforce 283 1 4
Quality of Life 144 36 38
Infrastructure & Transportation 224 3 2
Economy 135 30 35
Education 98 34 22
Technology & Innovation 138 17 17
Business Friendliness 130 15 16
Access to Capital 66 20 13
Cost of Living 35 16 9
OVERALL 1481 9 4
Tundra Dude
January 9th, 2013
9:45 am
Lynnie wrote, in part:
What creates jobs is DEMAND.
That lack of demand won’t change anytime soon.
Recently came across a chart on private debt.
Compared to previous recessions, going back to the 80’s,
consumer debt as % of income is astronomical, almost triple.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
9:45 am
“I’m finding that the top five states for business climate only one (Texas) is in the top 20 of unemployment. Of course Texas has the Gas, Oil and Energy sectors which shield it somewhat compared to other states. All the others TN, FL GA, and NC don’t even make it in the top 30.”
which, I believe, illustrates Jay’s point.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
9:45 am
GB: The poor rankings are largely a reflection of Georgia’s demographics. Our population is about 30% black, close to three times the % of the nation as a whole. Blacks everywhere in the US have higher rates of unemployment and lower income.
Please PROCEED with the point you are trying to make here. Don’t pretend you’re just citing statistics. What is your point?
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
9:45 am
Georgia’s demographics are never going to allow us near the top of certain categories.
I believe once you hit a tipping point of > 25% Blah People, you have to be content with perpetual servitude. At least that’s what it said on Laffer’s napkin.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
9:46 am
So now the cons are claiming that the lack of jobs is not Obama’s fault and that it is the business climate. Good thing we got global warming to heat up that business climate then. Now all we need are more tax cuts and some hefty doses of deeeee-regulation. And another 130-150 or so years to offset all the horrors done by the Democrats here in Georgia, naturally.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
9:46 am
Christian Conservative: I personally know people who have no desire to work and would rather sit on their behind and be on the gubmint dole…
I call bullsh*t. Present them. Liar.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
9:47 am
“Only certain ethnic slurs and insults are permitted.”- GB
Well the libs do like they politically correct double standards regarding ethnic slurs they do.
lovelyliz
January 9th, 2013
9:48 am
“there is no sign that pursuit of a narrowly defined “business-friendly” climate has resulted in a more people-friendly climate. And isn’t that the real goal?”
For business men that answer is a simple NO
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
9:48 am
GB — “All the posts with “hillbillies” should be eliminated”
That’s ‘Hill WILLIAM’ to YOU, sir.
Erwin's cat
January 9th, 2013
9:49 am
of course it’s the Republicans fault…If the Dems were in control, the narrative would be….just imagine how much worse it would have been if….
But hey, if it gets me outdoor football…i’m all in… Go Falcons
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
9:49 am
People simply want to live this way because they don’t want to work.
It takes a real dope to say something like this.
It sad really but thats the way they see the world.
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
9:49 am
Look at the map of the US. Red states are the thinly populated farm states that don’t believe in government.
Except for farm supports. And then there is Texas.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
9:50 am
It’s a good thing Georgia’s Republican “leaders” focused early on getting rid of all the Mehicans so they could turn their attention to the real problem–the uneducated and unemployed blah masses.
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
9:50 am
ADAM
Thanks for the link. I find that the bottom 5 states, or the 5 with the worst business climate are California, Michigan, NY, NJ, and IL. Their corresponding unemployment rates are 9.8%, 8.9%, 9.6%, and 8.7%..
With GA at 8.5%, seems in current environment, nothing really matters or makes a difference. The littany of differences between today and 2001 are lengthy and all speak ill of your column..
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
9:51 am
“I personally know people who have no desire to work and would rather sit on their behind and be on the gubmint dole…
I call bullsh*t. Present them. Liar.”
he’s seen LOADS of them checking out at the Piggly Wiggly, with cigarettes, scratch cards and a smartphone … wearing diamonte flip flips and driving an Escalade … no really …
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
9:51 am
That’s ‘Hill WILLIAM’ to YOU, sir.
A hillbilly using his formal name! Now things is gettin serious.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
9:52 am
Its don’t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out Jay.
Maybe an all time gem.
Georgia education at its highest level.
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
9:52 am
GB
You played the race card, and everybody cheering you on are just as complicit.
Do you know that, HISTORICALLY, Black unemployment has been twice the national average for almost as long as they’ve been recording it? That isn’t some new thing brought on by Democrats. That’s been the way things have been as long as we’ve been around. Trying to point to that fact as some new demographic shows how utterly clueless you are.
As to being poor, there are more Whites in this country that are poor than any other race, yet you don’t mention a single thing about poor Whites in Georgia, why not? Are rural Whites in Georgia not poor anymore? Did something change in the last year or so?
I am quite capable of having a rational conversation, but it seems that you have to rely on emotional “facts” that are half facts if that much. Whenever you wish to start a rational conversation, I’ll join in when time permits. I’m taking care of a sick child, so I can’t sit in front of a computer to wait for you to say something rational.
Doom
That message goes for you too. Funny that you consider that some uncomfortable truth. Let me pull out an “uncomfortable truth” that you don’t agree with and watch how fast I get accused of pulling the race card. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Pulling race into a discussion that has absolutely nothing to do with race is pure and utter deflection.
Why can’t you conservatives ever own up to the shortcomings of your own ideology and politicians without having to blame someone else? Can any of you conservatives answer that one? Two pages of comments, and y’all have blamed everybody else for Georgia’s problems when Conservatives have been in control for a decade. Democrats have been out of the Governor’s mansion for a DECADE. When are you going to accept personal responsibility for Georgia?
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
9:53 am
Looks like the professional meterologists are still on their chicken little the Earth is going to melt kick. And they still think they’ve emphatically proven global warming is mostly man made. Jeez. I think Jay overfed them yesterday on the raw red meat.
GB
January 9th, 2013
9:53 am
Adam
My point is obvious. I stated it as clearly as I know how. I am sorry you are not able to understand it.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
9:53 am
GB, makes some valid points.
As opposed to the utter stupidity of statements like these:
Our poor country….that was built in large part on the backs of Blah people is now being torn down by Blah people.
The reason the unemployment rate is so high is because the federal gubmint continues to extend benefits.
People simply want to live this way because they don’t want to work.
is it any wonder that the most virulent of our cons – like West, Walsh, Aiken, Mourdoch and Allen – keep getting crushed like they did last November 6th?
You have entered a long, dark period of failures, cons.
So get used to losing…
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
9:55 am
It’s a good thing President Obama approved tax cuts for 99 percent of us. Now only one percent has to worry about not gettin good jobs due to high taxes instead of 100 percent of us.
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
9:55 am
UK – Ya hoos is better term. Don’t know its orgins. Is it the West Virginia Yahoos or some other university?
williebkind
January 9th, 2013
9:55 am
“But I’m just some clueless Yankee so what do I know.”
A point of fact!
not fooled by the spin
January 9th, 2013
9:56 am
So Jay would have us think that creating a business unfriendly environment would be better for the state and the poor economically? I know, let’s just redistribute all the wealth to the poor. That seems to be the answer to everything. Businesses would keep locating to the state and doing business here because everyone knows that the ultimate goal of every business should be to benefit the poor – not their shareholders, owners, and workers.
Can’t anyone understand that if GA was less ‘pro business’ we would be in even worse shape?
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
9:56 am
“I can’t believe Jay used the word “crusade”. That is so sensitive and could offend some people.”
The Georgia Republican crusade starts with the opening prayer. It then moves to discussion of a few new abortion laws. Then the big pork fest lobby giveaway grand finale.
Is this the year the Billboard/Ultrasound abortion law passes? It would be a sure way to get re-elected.
The new Billboard/Ultrasound abortion law would require any women seeking an abortion to have an ultrasound taken of the fetus, have the image blown up, then have the image posted on a huge billboard. A giant picture of the woman involved must also be on the billboard. The image of the fetus must measure at least 15′ by 15′.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
9:56 am
Its don’t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out Jay.
That’s a good thing too given that cons don’t do math or science.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
9:58 am
“So Jay would have us think that creating a business unfriendly environment would be better for the state and the poor economically?”
Business unfriendly environment???? Like sitting in traffic?
St Simons - aboriginal Bootakook 2014
January 9th, 2013
9:59 am
having sat in on (more than) a few of those “where do we locate”
meetings in my younger days, i can tell you, a lot more than
’state-friendly-business-climate’ goes into that decision. f’rinstance –
What is teh infrastructure? ouch, thanks Ga cons
What is the educ level of the workers? ouch, thanks again cons
How will we get our top people to relocate to E Bumblef-? trifecta, cons!
Can’t buy beer on Sunday? whaaa? Chips-in-your-head bills?
oh. lord….
“Why don’t we just make “Bad Decision” our company logo?”
“Its lips are purty, but its still a pig”
(the last two are direct quotes from my 2nd boss, in one of those mtgs,
disclosure – it was a W Buffet co, and my boss wasn’t some yankee
snob – he was from Chattanooga)
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
10:00 am
of course it’s the Republicans fault…If the Dems were in control
Erwin, I have studiously avoided blaming one party or another, even though a cursory reading of my posts in this thread might allow one to assume otherwise. Georgia happened to have a nice convergence of enlightened, visionary urban types of varying shades of Blah AND a Democratic party that, while slow in the South to embrace such thinking, did come around and maintained political control for a number of years.
But it’s never about what party is in control; it’s about the tolerance of the governed to rules and regs that clearly are not in their collective interest.
If some progressive wing of the GA GOP were able to subvert the process and get the equivalent of a Hope Scholarship program afloat and operational, I’d be their biggest fan.
GB
January 9th, 2013
10:00 am
Brosephus
“Do you know that, HISTORICALLY, Black unemployment has been twice the national average for almost as long as they’ve been recording it? That isn’t some new thing brought on by Democrats. ”
You are helping me make my point. Black unemployment is higher than white unemployment. Ga has a higher % of blacks than the US as a whole. These facts are relevant to Ga’s overall unemployment rate. Re read my initial post. All I said was that any analysis ignoring demographics is incomplete.
Thanks for helping me make my argument. Does that make you a racist too?
And I said nothing about Democrats.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
10:00 am
Christian Conservative is a very bad joke straight out of the Moral Majority.
And like them, he is…………..
Neither.
williebkind
January 9th, 2013
10:00 am
“When are you going to accept personal responsibility for Georgia?”
Who had the welfare system initiated in Ga? Now can you get rid of it tomorrow–no! You can not get rid of the unemployment benefits that has lasted for four years. Where are the liberals responsibility to remove the chains off the democratic plantation?
TBS
January 9th, 2013
10:00 am
Bro
You didn’t get the memo?
Bringing up Bush when speaking of Obama is an excuse.
Bringing up Democrats in GA who haven’t been in charge for a decade is merely presenting the facts.
Oh the irony… You folks put it on everything from your grits to pot roast
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
10:01 am
Accordin to Adam’s link,the states lest pro-busines are doing better. We must be using the wrong approach. Get less pro-business and watch us become an industial state.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 9th, 2013
10:02 am
Well, seems to me all you folks are forgetting something. People here are so poor because they make Bad Choices and refuse to accept Personal Responsibility.
I’m talking to you, punk 1st graders, just setting on your behind in a classroom and dreaming of the day you’ll turn 16 and get out of that joint so you can get a new chainsaw and pickup truck. We already got enough of that kind out here. You need to get off of your duff and learn how to start companies so the rest of us can have jobs.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 9th, 2013
10:03 am
“Biden’s meetings spotlight gun control divide”
“Set to confer with backers of tougher gun laws, then NRA, other gun owner groups; Debate intensifying in court of public opinion”
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57562942/bidens-meetings-spotlight-gun-control-divide/
I think we need to pass a law making the use of any weapon to kill innocent people a felony punishable by life in prison or the death sentence.
There !
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:03 am
GB: My point is obvious. I stated it as clearly as I know how. I am sorry you are not able to understand it.
If your point is obvious, then your point is that black people are at fault for the unemployment rate being high.
If that is NOT your point, you can easily clear this up by stating what you point is instead.
On thing is clear, though. You’ve pulled race in as a rebuttal to Jay’s column.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
10:03 am
Can’t anyone understand that if GA was less ‘pro business’ we would be in even worse shape?
Can’t anyone understand that meaningless, fact-free slogans and sound bites are useless? Though the weapon of choice among the party’s faithful.
We have arguably the most verifiably corrupt and certainly one of the most incompetent state governments in the entire union…
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:04 am
Oscar et al: Accordin to Adam’s link
I thought I shared the link that shows the U-1 through U-6 rate over time nationally. Is that not what I shared?
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
10:04 am
USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
9:45 am
That’s one way to look at it but the underlying message I’m offering is that it doesn’t matter what states do today, the general business climate rules..Turning that into a conclusion that money in GA is ill-spent is not possible with data provided.
Also, the national employment rate used by politicians and media is the most favorable of all measure but the fact is that that number is suppressed due to a shrinking workforce in the market as opposed to new jobs.
TAXPAYER
I don’t think the unemployment situation is anyone’s fault but seems all need someone to blame. What’s relevant to me is that in today’s environment, government can’t do anything meaningful at this time to change the situation.
Of course any administration will take credit for things alledgedly getting better if this is actually a fact.
Tundra Dude
January 9th, 2013
10:05 am
“All the posts with “hillbillies” should be eliminated”
How about if we just upgrade them to “Appalachian American”
ps: Coach Saban is a hill person, W. Va.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:05 am
Scout: I think we need to pass a law making the use of any weapon to kill innocent people a felony punishable by life in prison or the death sentence.
Really? because *I* think we need to get rid of that law because “it doesn’t work” and “criminals break laws.”
There you go. Criminals break laws so therefore, we don’t need no stinkin’ laws!
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
10:06 am
“Has anyone noticed how cumbersome it is to report offensive language? All the posts with “hillbillies” should be eliminated, but (1) it takes too much effort to flag them and (2) the AJC censors don’t care”
blogspot.com is ready when you are. Start your own blog and YOU can control what is said.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
10:06 am
“democratic plantation”
Willie, will you please spout that moronic nonsense of yours ad nauseum right up until the next election?
Thank you from non-Republicans everywhere!
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
10:06 am
0311 – You men it’s fine to kill guilty people. How guilty do they have to be. And guilty of what?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
10:07 am
“UK – Ya hoos is better term. Don’t know its orgins. Is it the West Virginia Yahoos or some other university?”
a guy I used to date used this term frequently … and it never failed to crack me up … so, yay-hoo is my favorite term for people who seem to have their heads up their backsides and/or are just plain back-a$$-words.
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
10:07 am
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
10:01 am
Not remotely true…see prior post where I included worst states and corresponding unemployment…
Plus, what non-service industry is going to materialize?
Just Saying ...
January 9th, 2013
10:07 am
Honey Boo Boo and Real Housewives of Atlanta must be bringing in some tax revenue for Georgia
DebbieDoRight - When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
10:07 am
Jawja has little to show for being pimped out by Big Business because, like a common pros-tit-ute Jawja only gets the pennies the pimp daddy gives her; nothing more nothing less.
Congress seems drugged and inert most of the time… its idea of meeting a problem is to hold hearings or, in extreme cases, to appoint a commission. — Shirley Chisholm
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
10:08 am
“0311 – You men it’s fine to kill guilty people. How guilty do they have to be. And guilty of what?”
jaywalkers, your day of reckoning has COME …
same for you, people who have 15 items in the 10-items-or-less aisle!!!
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
10:08 am
Looks like the professional meterologists are still on their chicken little the Earth is going to melt kick. And they still think they’ve emphatically proven global warming is mostly man made. Jeez. I think Jay overfed them yesterday on the raw red meat.
Anyone denying climate change is doing so for one of two reasons.
1. They are too dumb to know any better.
2. Their politics so blind them that they cant see what is obvious to anyone objective.
The debate reminds me of the one we had about cigarettes causing cancer.
Im sure there were a lot of people who said they didn’t. The tobacco industry sure wasn’t going to say they did so they intentionally muddied the waters ( much like what is being done today with Climate Change )
The problem with that is eventually the truth will win out. You have to drag them kicking and screaming to the truth sometimes.
But eventually even the dimmest among us gets there.
A Simple Man
January 9th, 2013
10:10 am
Let’s raise everyone’s taxes. That will fix the problem.
Oh, and I think most republicans I know are against a taxpayer funded dome. Politicians may be for it, but that’s a whole nuther story. It’s not they’re really looking out for us anyway.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
10:11 am
Forget hillbillies, I prefer the word cracker.
But so as to not offend any southern, white, Republican, “Christian”, “conservative” males, I will be politically correct and refer to them as the C word!
LOL…
RB from Gwinnett
January 9th, 2013
10:11 am
““It’s the GOP way. Give corporations a free ride, then stick to the taxpaying citizens””
A major problem we have is with simple minded people such as this ^^^^ making foolish comments like that because they’re too lazy to look at the realities of what’s really going on. Does this poster really think the blue state legislatures are not making any tax incentive deals with companies? It’s only Republicans doing this? Seriously?
You probably also think all the democrat owned businesses are hiring a bunch of extra employees they don’t need, paying them more than the going rate, and only making 2x the lowest wage earner because they’re benevolent democrates who care about people, right? So why aren’t all the unemployed lined up at their doors signing up for a job?
Try thinking for a change….
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
10:11 am
Here’s the data I’m looking at:
http://chiefexecutive.net/best-worst-states-for-business
http://www.bls.gov/lau/
GB
January 9th, 2013
10:11 am
Adam
Re-read my original post. I did not, there or in any other comments, say anything was black people’s fault. I did not write it. I did not imply it.
You seem upset that I brought up race. I did so because Jay Bookman ignored a relevant factor. His analysis was incomplete. I said so.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 9th, 2013
10:11 am
RESISTANCE !
“Weeks after the election, Republicans are as dogged as ever in their resistance to Obama, particularly in an unruly House.”
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/08/16414869-contrary-to-obamas-hopes-gop-fever-hasnt-broken?lite
bigbill
January 9th, 2013
10:11 am
Great column. Makes me think of George Carlin’s piece on why he does’t vote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk
TBS
January 9th, 2013
10:11 am
Jamvet
“Democratic plantation”….
Right out of the talk radio play book..
That one gets their rabid followers all giddy
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:11 am
Cheesy: Anyone denying climate change is doing so for one of two reasons.
1. They are too dumb to know any better.
2. Their politics so blind them that they cant see what is obvious to anyone objective.
In either case, they are children that need to sit at the kids’ table and shut up and let the grown ups deal with it. Make noise in a soundproof room for all I care, but they are not allowed to join in the conversation anymore. Pitting ideology against scientific evidence is not a “debate.” Time to stop calling it one and time to ignore the people who deny the problem exists and move on to crafting solutions that will work.
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
10:12 am
See Stevie’s post at 9:50 or 9:58. According to him your link shows NJ Calif and three othe states as hainf the worst business climates. All industrilized states.
larry
January 9th, 2013
10:12 am
I know one job where it has been real business friendly since 2003 and that’s the governor’s office.
Need a tax break , you got it
Need to sell a bankrupt business , to the pawn and porn king of California no less, you got it.
Need to finance such sell of the bankrupt business, you got it
Among others
Maybe if we cleared up our eithics problem…………
Jay
January 9th, 2013
10:14 am
Personally, I come from a l-oooonnnggg line of hillbillies — as far back as hillbillies go in this country. The term doesn’t bother me a whit.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
10:14 am
Brocephus,
Nope. GB did not “pull the race card”. He simply pointed out that in his opinion that demographics plays a role in this and he explained why. This is why we cannot rationally discuss race in this country. Someone makes a point that reflects economic realities and folks get bent out of shape over “the race card” because they don’t like what was said.
From your posts it doesn’t look like you hold the same indignation over cheesy grits “hillbilly” statements. The silence of you and other liberals is deafening.
As to your other points its true that there are more poor whites, especially in rural Georgia, than there are of any other race. But there are also about 6 1/2 times more whites than there are of any other race. As a math major you should be able to readily understand how misapplied your statement is in regards to statistical analysis.
And also your assertion that black unemployment has always been higher than white unemployment is simply wrong. Its a common fallacy to believe that but there were times when black unemployment was lower than white unemployment. And ironically enough those times were when blacks were historically much more visciously discriminated against.
As a matter of fact do you know when the big and permanent separation between black and white employment began? It began with minimum wage laws which disproportionately affected blacks.
“The last year in which the black unemployment rate was lower than the white unemployment rate was 1930. That was also the last year in which there was no federal minimum wage law.”
And its also a well known historical fact that labor unions were responsible for much of the discrimination and damage done to black employment levels. Have you ever noticed that to this day that black representation in construction labor unions is still low?
“The Davis-Bacon Act of 1931 was in part a result of a series of incidents in which non-union black construction labor enabled various contractors from the South to underbid Northern contractors who used white, unionized construction labor.
The Davis-Bacon Act required that “prevailing wages” be paid on government construction projects— “prevailing wages” almost always meaning in practice union wages. Since blacks were kept out of construction unions then, and for decades thereafter, many black construction workers lost their jobs.
Minimum wages were required more broadly under the National Industrial Recovery Act of 1933 and under the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, with negative consequences for black employment across a much wider range of industries.”
http://www.creators.com/opinion/thomas-sowell/race-and-economics.html
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 9th, 2013
10:14 am
UK:
“0311 – You men it’s fine to kill guilty people. How guilty do they have to be. And guilty of what?”
Yes.
Beyond a reasonable doubt.
Murder.
Next.
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
10:15 am
You are helping me make my point. Black unemployment is higher than white unemployment. Ga has a higher % of blacks than the US as a whole. These facts are relevant to Ga’s overall unemployment rate. Re read my initial post. All I said was that any analysis ignoring demographics is incomplete.
Go look at the US Census figures. The latest they have on business ownership is 2007. National percentage of Black owned businesses is 7.1% while Georgia’s is 20.4%. Georgia’s Blacks aren’t the lazy creatures you’re trying to paint them to be.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/13000.html
Now, if you really want to look at why Georgia’s employment is where it’s at, then it trancends RACE and is more likely due to lack of education. Almost 45% of Georgians have a high school (or equivalent) education or less.
http://factfinder2.census.gov/bkmk/table/1.0/en/ACS/11_5YR/DP02/0400000US13
It ain’t race, as much as you want to make it out to be. Blacks, in Georgia, are much more likely to be business owners than in other states. You wouldn’t have all the drama with the airport contracts and such if it were not for Black owned businesses.
Plain and simple, you played the race card when it was not necessary. You should have played the education card.
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
10:15 am
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
10:08 am
Climate change is only denied by the stupid?
Sounds like the scientific concept of skepticism does not apply to this 20-30 year old science with questionable motives, suspect data going back in time, and making predictions that are supposed to ring true 50-100 years from now….
If I were you, I’d not rush to judgement simply because you want to be accepted in certain circles..
indigo
January 9th, 2013
10:15 am
Doggone/GA – 10:06
Still on the job, giving your official approval as to what can and cannot be posted here.
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 9th, 2013
10:15 am
Although the Greatest paper in the South……the AJC……..can’t escape to another State(wouldn’t be prudent)…….it CAN escape Democrats.
And DID.
.
lol
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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution will relocate its headquarters next year from its longtime home downtown to smaller, leased offices near Perimeter Mall, parent company Cox Enterprises announced Monday.
The move is another cost-cutting measure by the AJC, which has 850 employees at 72 Marietta St. The company occupies less than 30 percent of the downtown location after consolidating printing operations last year in Gwinnett County.
“The decision was made to benefit our customers, employees and business,” AJC Publisher Michael Joseph said.
“We hold corporations and government officials accountable for fiscal responsibility, and we must do the same for ourselves. This move will reduce controllable costs and help the company remain viable and focused on our core mission of journalism, while continuing to serve the community and provide advertising solutions.”
The AJC will maintain its Capitol bureau and also plans to have an intown bureau, although its location and staffing levels haven’t been determined, Joseph said. News and production will also be located at a large AJC facility in Gwinnett County. That facility recently underwent a $30 million enhancement of presses and distribution systems
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lol
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
10:16 am
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
10:15 am
Couldn’t agree more..
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 9th, 2013
10:17 am
Now this is something that could save thousands of lives. It will be interesting to see how this ruling might compare with guns rulings. Do we REALLY want to save lives ?
“Supreme Court to decide whether police can take your blood without your permission (DUI’s)”
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/08/16416051-supreme-court-to-decide-whether-police-can-take-your-blood-without-your-permission?lite
P.S. Is it the alcohol’s fault or the drinkers fault ??
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
10:18 am
Agreed Adam
But dumb people vote too. And you see them here every day.
It will take the light going on for some of them before we can really get something done.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
10:18 am
Looks like the echo chamber of know it all Bookman blog perfessers of meterology have concluded that well that they know it all.
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
10:18 am
TBS @ 10:00
I don’t even think they are aware of it. Let somebody mention something about Bush, and they will go ape shiite crazy about the blame game. They’ll even do it in this same thread where they are blaming everybody BUT Republicans for the state of things here in Georgia.
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
10:19 am
0311 – have to go with life without parole instead of deth sentence in georgi. Countynbudgets can’t fford capital trials. And for other resons. For one, too many innocent people are convicted.
tiredofIT
January 9th, 2013
10:19 am
You want jobs in the USA, implement tariffs.
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
10:20 am
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:11 am
IMO opinion, anyone who has made a final conclusion about this issue doesn’t belong at the growup table. Freshly minted science projecting doom and gloom 50 years from now? Maybe there is something there maybe not…I lean to the latter since there is no consensus on credibility of metrics…continued skepticism is absolutely necessary to the process of vetting this. If you are convinced either way at this point, I’m not sure what to tell you..
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 9th, 2013
10:21 am
Jay
January 9th, 2013
10:14 am
Personally, I come from a l-oooonnnggg line of hillbillies — as far back as hillbillies go in this country. The term doesn’t bother me a whit.
————————————————–
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The n-word doesn’t bother my black friends either…………..but that don’t mean you should use it.
.
Not that I’m a PC soccer watching metro/federo-sexual .
I only like to point out the double standards.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
10:21 am
Climate change is only denied by the stupid?
Thats right.
Or those blinded by their politics as I stated earlier.
Inside the scientific community there is very little debate whether its real or not.
curious
January 9th, 2013
10:22 am
GB
You are correct. What’s your solution?
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
10:22 am
Brocephus,
The education systems in the deep south are also part of the problem and that does transcend race as you stated. But I think I already mentioned education systems here as being part of the problem and that of course affects whites as well as blacks.
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
10:23 am
I don’t have aany probleem with the term hillbillie when used properly.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
10:24 am
Bro
Some of those bloggers on this morning… That’s what makes it so humorous and sad at the same time..
randy
January 9th, 2013
10:24 am
Critical pro-biz policy we DON’T have:
1) First rate public education
2) Useful public transit. I personally know dozens of super-sharp 20-something tech guys complaining about this, and about one dozen have already left for San Francisco, New York, Austin, and Europe. These are the EXACT GUYS Georgia does not want to lose!
3) Real internet access competition. (Georgia caves to Comcast & AT&T)
4) Locally generated power purchase policy, like Germany. Instead, Southern Company does whatever they want.
5) Voters who demand reduction in rampant political corruption
the cat
January 9th, 2013
10:24 am
Why does Thulsa Doom write with an imaginary plantation owner accent?
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
10:24 am
If you are convinced either way at this point, I’m not sure what to tell you..
Are you convinced of gravity ? Or do we need more studies ?
I agree more data is better but when its ALL POINTING IN ONE SINGLE DIRECTION AND ALMOST EVERY SINGLE SCIENTIST ON THE PLANET LOOKS AT THAT DATA AND COMES TO THE SAME EXACT CONCLUSION.
Well then you start thinking there might be something to it.
And at that point to deny it really really makes you look stupid.
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
10:25 am
I did not, there or in any other comments, say anything was black people’s fault. I did not write it. I did not imply it.
GB
January 9th, 2013
8:09 am
The poor rankings are largely a reflection of Georgia’s demographics. Our population is about 30% black, close to three times the % of the nation as a whole. Blacks everywhere in the US have higher rates of unemployment and lower income. Any analysis that does not take demographics into account is incomplete.
Just wow…. Pointing out Georgia’s Black demographics and then stating that not taking THAT into account is incomplete is not blaming Blacks. You’re not pointing the finger at those with a high school diploma or less there, bro. Why not be proud of what you stated instead of trying to deflect it. Unless Jay pulls that post, it’s there for everybody to see. You said nothing about the poor or uneducated in regards to demographics, only Blacks.
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
10:25 am
tiredofIT
January 9th, 2013
10:19 am
You got something there..especially in select industries..tough balance with special interests and US companies competing overseas…perhaps we match the tarrifs of other countries (China for example)…..
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:25 am
GB: I did so because Jay Bookman ignored a relevant factor. His analysis was incomplete. I said so.
What you did was bring up an issue you knew people would call you on, all so you could claim they were “crying wolf.” And from what I can tell, you did it with malice aforethought.
Drop the subject.
BobDawg
January 9th, 2013
10:26 am
JAY, I’m spending about half my time in Chattanooga on Biz… What a bright shining star of growth and stability with tourism; manufacturing jobs (Volkswagen) and Retail…. They are building homes and not skipping a beat up there….
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
10:26 am
Why does Thulsa Doom write with an imaginary plantation owner accent?
She thinks its funny I guess.
BobDawg
January 9th, 2013
10:27 am
… also the Fastest internet for any City now…..
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
10:27 am
Doom
You mentioned education. GB did not. His sole criteria was R-A-C-E. That’s why he’s guilty of playing the race card. You know that had some liberal made such a comment, your boxers would be so tight up your @ss in calling them out that Jay would be pulling posts by now.
will-o-the-wisp
January 9th, 2013
10:27 am
NO!!! that is not the real goal; the real goal is to exploit your resources , infrastructure and low wage peasant population, while receiving tax exemptions, and favorable legislation to maximize taxpayer obligations. Just like they would do in any other fourth world feces pit.
Paul
January 9th, 2013
10:27 am
Since some seem bound and determined to make every thread about gun control, okay.
““Mr. LaPierre is correct, guns don’t kill people and even people don’t kill people; men kill people and, inexplicable to us, tiny children along with spouses, brothers-in-law, their own mothers, sisters, brothers, cousins, co-workers, people who are the wrong color, or someone wearing the wrong color or someone wearing the wrong headgear or not meeting the social or religious standards of the shooter.
“These shootings take place in intimate settings, family holidays, backyard barbecues and neighborhood get-togethers, wedding receptions, in bars and clubs, outside of stores, in workplaces, and in public places such as malls, movie theaters and again inexplicably, in schools and even churches.
” I wonder why no one has suggested that a gun license be accompanied by estrogen injections, maybe monthly. When was the last time a woman went postal? How about a curfew on this dangerous cohort? If the shooters were all of a minority, there would be calls for some kind of medical exams or quarantining and much money would be spent on finding out just why ‘they’ go awry. That this murdering cohort sees itself as dominant means that it does not see itself in appropriate isolation. There is talk of how ‘we’ are a violent nation, ‘we’ have violent entertainment, that ‘people’ don’t kill people.
“Men kill people with guns when feeling insufficiently respected, in desperation, depression, rage and anger. Putting more guns in the hands of more men is a terrifying prospect.”
http://www.statesman.com/news/news/local/herman-men-and-guns-and-mass-murder/nTmJT/
Take heart, 0311
Estrogen’ shots are covered under your federal government retiree health care program!
TBS
January 9th, 2013
10:27 am
Thomas
I didn’t see it but did you hear about your boy Alex Jones whacky CNN appearance..
Did he really say Bloomberg might have him killed?
Bwhahahahahah
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
10:27 am
Well at least one person in Georgia got a good paying job.
HELP WANTED: Director of Nothing. Must be willing to hate the government while working for the government. Successful businessmen need not apply. Must have no experience in public television. Must hate PBS. Gambling background a plus. Applicant should believe in crazy government conspiracies. Democrats need not apply. Starting pay $102,000 + liberal benefits. Applicant must be willing to quit his elected office immediately. No Blahs, women or gays.
Paul
January 9th, 2013
10:28 am
but back on topic, anyone care to suggest some metrics that would indicate success in the program of tax giveaways to corporations?
RGB
January 9th, 2013
10:29 am
Your implied prescription for attracting business is ensuring that more families are on welfare (boosting the number from 7% to 27%) and raising taxes.
Would you explain how raising the breakeven point for businesses would attract more of them?
Thanks in advance.
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
10:29 am
“Still on the job, giving your official approval as to what can and cannot be posted here”
Reading comprehension is not your stong suit, is it? Where did I say ANYTHING couldn’t be posted? As I recall it, it was the poster to whom I addressed my reply that was trying to control what could or could not be posted here.
Try reading the next time…you might actually learn something.
Michelle
January 9th, 2013
10:29 am
So raising taxes will help the unemployment rate? raising taxes will help families get off welfare? On another note… How many folks will be employed… with benefits… by building and working at the new Falcons Stadium? How many jobs would be lost if we didn’t build the stadium, and the team moved to a different state? Just some questions we should ask ourselves…
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
10:30 am
Cons cannot help the fact that they do not do math or science. It’s their teacher’s faults for not whacking them more frequently with the ruler during class.
Elections Have Consequences
January 9th, 2013
10:30 am
“The larger question, however, is whether the state’s strategy is achieving its goals.“
For starters, Caterpillar, Porsche, Microsoft, Voestalpine, Hyundai, Talenti…Sounds like a ‘Yes’ to me.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:31 am
Stevie Ray: Freshly minted science projecting doom and gloom 50 years from now?
I am not talking about predictions. People who deny that global warming is real OR that deny that humans have anything to do with it are doing so because they want to avoid taking any responsibility for crafting a solution. That’s childish. I do not care HOW LONG it’s going to take for the earth to warm up to the point where humans have to mass migrate to survive, nor do I care about other possible doomsday scenarios happening tomorrow or happening in 100 years. What I care about is that we have enough evidence to show the following:
1) Global warming IS happening
2) Humans ARE mostly the cause
3) Historically, when the earth warms like this, certain things follow that cause and become effect.
If you have “made up your mind” that these three things are true, it’s because of EVIDENCE. “Made up your mind” is merely projection of the closed mindedness and belief that comes from the people that keep insisting the problem doesn’t even exist. It is clear to objective observers who the children are: The people who deny the entire problem.
FORGET about doomsday scenarios and focus for a few minutes on those three things. Just the first two if all three make your head explode. Otherwise, with this subject, sit at the kids’ table and let the adults talk.
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
10:32 am
But so as to not offend any southern, white, Republican, “Christian”, “conservative” males, I will be politically correct and refer to them as the C word!
I do that all the time. But it ain’t the same “C” word. (much to mrs. sfd’s understandable consternation.)
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 9th, 2013
10:32 am
Uh, would them estrogen shots mess with my weekend get-togethers up at Billy Bob’s?
RGB
January 9th, 2013
10:32 am
“…anyone care to suggest some metrics that would indicate success in the program of tax giveaways to corporations?”
I could use the Obama phraseology that 4.8 trillion jobs would have been lost were it not for X, Y, and Z, so we’ve “created or saved” gazillions of jobs.
How does that work for you statists? Or it is another one of those one-way deals for you guys?
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
10:32 am
“Bringing up Bush when speaking of Obama is an excuse.
Bringing up Democrats in GA who haven’t been in charge for a decade is merely presenting the facts.”
Now I have to help out TBS since he seems to be perspective challenged as usual. W was potus for 8 years. Dems pretty much had absolute control of the South for 150-200 years or so. If your mind can’t understand the difference then there’s no helping you sonny. And as you noted the Rs only took over the governorship here 10 years or so if you are correct about that. Hard to undo 150-200 years of Dem screwups in 1 decade.
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
10:33 am
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
10:21 am
I guess I’m stupid since I’m still from Missouri on the whole thing..not a proven science by any stretch. Buying this or denying this in toto at this point is premature. Calling someone stupid who wants more data validated and challenged is a popular LIB response….they want so bad to sweep any challenges under the carpet I understand not..
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
10:33 am
Say no to the new stadium. If the Falcons fly away, so be it. We can get another team. or better yet,do without one.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:34 am
Stevie Ray: Climate change is only denied by the stupid?
Actually, it is denied by those ignorant of the facts of the case. Either deliberately or not. That doesn’t make them stupid across the board, just on this subject.
Paul
January 9th, 2013
10:34 am
So in other words, RGB, you don’t.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
10:35 am
Adam,
Cons do not do math or science so why waste your time trying to use either on them. You gotta use the faith in order to get through. Tell them what they want to hear and support your claims with unskewed data. Karl Rove has shown repeatedly that this is the only way to get through to them.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
10:36 am
Bro
Just like I said, they are on this morning….. The guilty dog barks the loaudest
Welcome to the Occupation
January 9th, 2013
10:36 am
“In other words, there is no sign that pursuit of a narrowly defined “business-friendly” climate has resulted in a more people-friendly climate”
Oh it’s been friendly for some people. And let’s face it, the vampire business-crony leaders of the state have never really been anything but upfront about their intentions. They’ve never really made any bones about this, have they?
In other words, if their objective was to set out to make a climate of life that’s friendly to business leaders and their various hanger-on cronies, then you could hardly do better than the state of Georgia could you?
Smells like success to me..
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
10:36 am
Back to climate change, are we?
As posted downstairs:
The evidence is sufficient. We should move toward the most effective steps to reduce carbon loading in the atmosphere, and do it urgently.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
10:36 am
Damn. Now we’re up to 200 years of “it’s the Dems that done done us in.”
GT
January 9th, 2013
10:36 am
GB look at one state in the union with the same diversity as Georgia, North Carolina and you can get an object study on what we could have been.
First of all the state of North Carolina figured out that a statewide banking system was far better than the county system for their citizens. While South Georgia was trying to protect their fiefdoms North Carolina was emerging as the banking capital of the south.
Duke Power and the state of NC have pledged to have 20% of their energy source off grid in 10 years, and are contracting alternative energy sources for periods long enough for them to get bank financing; Georgia Power refuses to do anything like this.
Education, North Carolina has one of the best in the nation Georgia one of the worse. On and on. One of the secrets of North Carolina was a balanced government with two strong parties. What we have loss in this state North Carolina has gained.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
10:36 am
the cat
January 9th, 2013
10:24 am
Why does Thulsa Doom write with an imaginary plantation owner accent?
Why does the cat just make up stupid shyte?
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
10:37 am
Redneck – those shots could elp you get a lot more attention.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
10:37 am
“Yes.
Beyond a reasonable doubt.
Murder.
Next.”
so much for the “sanctity of life”
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:38 am
TaxPayer: You’re right that I am wasting my time. I would also be wasting my time by just agreeing with them. A few posts should be all I need to show that I do not consent to their fact-less contentions. “He who is silent is understood to consent.”
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
10:38 am
TBS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZzTpjh-NsQ
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
10:39 am
That doesn’t make them stupid across the board, just on this subject.
Yep! They’re quite well versed on such things as football and Bible verses. Bless their hearts. They just don’t do math or science.
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
10:39 am
There is a 90 per cent consensus on climate change. But calling the dissenting 10 per cent names is arrogant and childish.
Jay
January 9th, 2013
10:40 am
“And as you noted the Rs only took over the governorship here 10 years or so if you are correct about that. Hard to undo 150-200 years of Dem screwups in 1 decade.”
A couple of pertinent points:
– As the column points out, over the past 10 years our economic situation relative to the rest of the country has DECLINED significantly, after a couple of decades of strong growth. In other words, pretending that the last decade has been a decade of recovery from previous poor management is simply avoiding reality. Bottom line: Things are considerably WORSE than they were a decade ago, compared to the rest of the country.
– It’s also foolish to pretend that “Rs only took over the governorship here 10 years.” In many ways, the same people are in charge as were in charge when I came to Georgia in 1990. Back then, Sonny Perdue was a Democrat. So was our current governor, Nathan Deal. They simply changed the D to R and along the way dumped whatever veneer of progressive thought that they once might have boasted.
Jack ®
January 9th, 2013
10:40 am
What Georgia really should do is discourage new business and encourage the existing businesses to hire only those who are poor and not qualified to do the work. That would reduce the “differential between rich and poor” and at the same time, it would make those businesses feel really good about themselves as they prepare for bankruptcy.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
10:40 am
“Hard to undo 150-200 years of Dem screwups in 1 decade.”
Exactly, thank God good Republicans like Lincoln came in and burnt Atlanta to the ground. Where is Lincoln when you need him? We need northerners to march back in and take care of our problems.
Can’t leave it up to the dumb Georgia Republican voters, they’ll just vote in another Democratic reject and call him a Republican, like they did with Perdue and Deal.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:40 am
GT: Education, North Carolina has one of the best in the nation Georgia one of the worse. On and on. One of the secrets of North Carolina was a balanced government with two strong parties
And what did they get for their efforts? In 2008 they voted for Obama! Clearly that means that education is a bad idea.
DebbieDoRight - When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
10:40 am
Anyone denying climate change is doing so for one of two reasons.
You forgot one more — Profit. If they, (the profiteers), had to acknowledge that, yes — we DO have a problem, then they’d also have to come up with ways to fix THEIR emissions into our ozone.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
10:40 am
“He who is silent is understood to consent.”
Adam,
The cons will always be able to out wait you on that one because they know you have to sleep some time.
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
10:41 am
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:31 am
Climate change is happening like it has…well forever. Whether this will continue or is part of a cycle won’t be known for quite some time. Rushing out to solve a problem not yet clarified on data which has not been proven reliable yet is silly. The results/science are too green, incentives are unclear, and we can’t afford any drastic solution at present. Sometimes the simple explanation is the best…there exists a material probability that we are wrong…so until time reduces that discrepancy, I can’t say I know or not.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:41 am
But calling the dissenting 10 per cent names is arrogant and childish.
Perhaps. But they deserve to be treated like children for their own arrogant temper tantrums on the subject.
Rafe Hollister
January 9th, 2013
10:41 am
Back in the day when the sky was so blue, the roses smelled so good, people were prosperous, and the Dems were running things, Georgia had a broad employment base consisting of Ford, GM, Coca-cola, the airport/airlines, Lockheed, growing Universities and colleges, and Banking HQ on every block in Atlanta. What happened, times changed and peoples buying habits changed. Many, of these changes, many of which were necessary but many others that could be laid at the feet of the PC police/Democrat party.
Cars were branded as polluters and regulations passed on mileage. Soft drinks were branded as bad for ones health. The F-22 was deemed too costly and overly effective and defense spending was attacked. The TSA was created to harass innocent fliers making ones desire to fly equal to ones desire for a prostate exam. Banking regulations were weakened to allow all the banks to merge into a very few giants. Universities were allowed to raise their tuition at alarming rates by the easy access to Lottery money.
So, a great deal has happened to the employer base that was the result of times changing and previous legislation, but Bookman just wants to blame the GOP, as usual. The story is quite complicated and is not as easily explained as just saying, the Republicans did it.
MiltonMan
January 9th, 2013
10:41 am
Jay, it is your democratic buddies who control Atlanta who are really pushing for a new stadium but let’s just ignore that.
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
10:41 am
UK – In some circles, only the innocent are entitled to santicy of life.
Paul
January 9th, 2013
10:41 am
jensen dert
“my co-worker’s step-sister makes $76 every hour on the laptop.”
What club does she dance at? Getalife’ll be glad to help out -
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:41 am
The cons will always be able to out wait you on that one because they know you have to sleep some time
They should also know by now that I’ll always be back
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
10:41 am
Brocephus,
I doubt GB meant anything racist by just mentioning race.
For what its worth I think that the education system is a big problem and part of the demographics issue is that the gulf between wealthy and poor local education systems might disproportionately affect blacks in a worser way.
indigo
January 9th, 2013
10:43 am
Doggone/GA – “start your own blog and YOU can control what is said”
Is that your idea of approval?
If so, you need to spend less time here and more time on your homeschooling.
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
10:43 am
Arrogant temper tantrums are childish, no question about that.
the cat
January 9th, 2013
10:43 am
Thulsa-um no, I am not making anything up. You know you speak with that “dialect” and you do so to be demeaning.
another voice
January 9th, 2013
10:44 am
Thanks Jay for an informative article.
By the way, if businesses are not paying sales tax on energy use, who is picking up the slack?
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:44 am
Stevie Ray: Climate change is happening like it has…well forever.
Wrong.
Whether this will continue or is part of a cycle won’t be known for quite some time.
Wrong.
We know both. Even in layman’s terms this has been explained. You simply are not aware, either on purpose or not on purpose, that the science has already settled whether this is all “natural” or not.
we can’t afford any drastic solution at present.
I agree on this, but I am not proposing a drastic solution. I am merely saying we need to all get on board with the FACTS.
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
10:44 am
DebbieDoRight – When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
10:40 am
Which side will profit more? The companies having to pay insane amounts or those who profit from selling solutions that may not change things one way or another?
Every action has an opposite reaction???
Erwin's cat
January 9th, 2013
10:44 am
Climate change is only denied by the stupid?
I don’t think anyone denies that the climate changes or is changing…pretending to know why, on the other hand, is a bit naive and dangerous
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
10:44 am
“Damn. Now we’re up to 200 years of “it’s the Dems that done done us in.”
”
remember, Bush has been gone for 4 years, so we can’t blame him for anything.
The Dems have been gone for 10 years, but they can still be blamed.
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
10:45 am
“If so, you need to spend less time here and more time on your homeschooling”
As I said, your reading comprehension fails you.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
10:45 am
“Exactly, thank God good Republicans like Lincoln came in and burnt Atlanta to the ground. Where is Lincoln when you need him? We need northerners to march back in and take care of our problems.”
Danny X unintentionally humors Doomy. What we really need is some of them northerners from prospering states like Illinois to come in and show us how to grow the state.
MiltonMan
January 9th, 2013
10:45 am
“Yep! They’re quite well versed on such things as football and Bible verses. Bless their hearts. They just don’t do math or science.”
Ever heard of The Georgia Institute of Technology???
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
10:46 am
/The North Avenue Trade School
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
10:47 am
Cons proclaim themselves to be knowledgeable on the topic of climate science. Then they post something on the topic and contradict themselves, every time.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
10:48 am
Ever heard of The Georgia Institute of Technology???
Yep. Except I’ve done more than just hear about it.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
10:48 am
“Ever heard of The Georgia Institute of Technology???”
a perfect illustration of “the two Georgias” – Atlanta and the rest of the state.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:49 am
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/georgia-institute-of-technology-1569/reviews/20648
The Best Things
Friendly students, urban location, D1 sports
The Worst Things
Academics, people constantly complaining about their classes and lack of social life
Yup. All you have to do to “do science” is go to a college with “Technology” in the name!
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
10:49 am
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:44 am
I appreciate your passion and support of the conclusion you have drawn…..I simply don’t know (other than getting rid of use of fossil fuels is a good thing to aspire to) what the real situation is because I’m skeptical of such a new science that projects such calamity…
I used to think it was total bull but now profess I simply don’t know. In my science, numbers and mathmatical hypothesis seem to work but more time is spent trying to disprove new theory before it becomes part of the nomenclature. Sometimes what is professed to be accurate is later found to be flawed…
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
10:50 am
Doom: I doubt GB meant anything racist by just mentioning race.
Did I make such a claim? I simply stated he played the race card. I never said he made a racist statement.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
10:50 am
“Yep. Except I’ve done more than just hear about it.”
me, too … dated a grad from there, once
willie lynch
January 9th, 2013
10:50 am
As I read here I see everyone is the problem except the people who have been running the state for the last decade.
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
10:50 am
Continuing to use coal at out present rate will end civilization as we know it. 90 per cent agreement among scientists onthat. Hard to disagee wth 90 per cent.
Erwin's cat
January 9th, 2013
10:51 am
Yep. Except I’ve done more than just hear about it.
he’s driven past it too
GB
January 9th, 2013
10:51 am
“Do you know that, HISTORICALLY, Black unemployment has been twice the national average for almost as long as they’ve been recording it? That isn’t some new thing brought on by Democrats. That’s been the way things have been as long as we’ve been around. – Brocephus”
NOT TRUE !
During slavery times 100% of Blacks were employed, had housing, clothing and medical attention provided to them by their master.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:52 am
GB: NOT TRUE !
During slavery times 100% of Blacks were employed, had housing, clothing and medical attention provided to them by their master.
I am telling you….. malice aforethought here!
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
10:52 am
UK – You seem to have been around, I like that.
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
10:53 am
“Why Ga. has so little to show for being so ‘business friendly’?”
It’s GLOBAL WARMING’S fault I tell ya!
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
10:53 am
me, too … dated a grad from there, once
I’d have to see your photo because I’m terrible with names.
RB from Gwinnett
January 9th, 2013
10:53 am
Hey Jay, ““We hold corporations and government officials accountable for fiscal responsibility, and we must do the same for ourselves. This move will reduce controllable costs and help the company remain viable and focused on our core mission of journalism, while continuing to serve the community and provide advertising solutions.”
Just curious….How many more employees does the AJC have beyond what it really needs to run it’s business just because it’s a benevolent democrat run business? And how much higher than the going rate for each job task do they pay? Surely you have those stats available to you. Please share.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:53 am
Brosephus and Thulsa: GB’s last statement should leave no doubt in anyone’s mind that he’s just trying to egg us all on. And Thulsa, you should feel dumb for defending him.
Ignore him.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
10:53 am
“What we really need is some of them northerners from prospering states like Illinois to come in and show us how to grow the state.”
You are exactly right Doom.
Per capita GDP rank
Illinois….15th
Georgia…35th
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
10:54 am
Doom
As to the educational aspect, we’re in agreement. That plays a big role in things, and it has nothing to do with race at all. It’s a matter of wealthy vs poor, and in the state of Georgia, the poor are getting their ass kicked quite handily.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/georgia-schools-lay-unequal-foundations-for-colleg/nS9B8/
Dixie Edalgo and Allyson Reyer both graduated first in their class in Georgia public schools. Both now attend in-state public colleges.
But for these valedictorians, the road to college was dramatically different. Reyer, 18, graduated from Sprayberry High in Cobb County with a 4.578 grade point average and 39 hours of college credit through advanced placement courses. In her first year at The University of Georgia, she’s already a sophomore.
Edalgo, 19, graduated from Wilcox High in the South Georgia town of Rochelle, where budget cuts forced a four-day week, advanced placement courses are not offered and an estimated two-thirds of students don’t have Internet access at home. She graduated with a 4.0 but seldom had homework, and is now struggling with math as a freshman at Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College, where a 2.0 – a low C average – is required for entry.
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
10:54 am
Continuing to use coal at out present rate will end civilization as we know it.
I know it’s wrong to dwell in the past, but savor, for a moment, the unbridled idiocy of the sentiment contained in this story’s headline.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/oct/16/news/la-pn-presidential-debate-energy-policy-20121016
Good times.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
10:55 am
he’s driven past it too
And you’re always there on the same corner. Would you mind puttin a little cleaner in that spray bottle so it don’t streak so bad.
(It’s those emoticons that make sayin just about anything palatable.)
williebkind
January 9th, 2013
10:56 am
“Why does Thulsa Doom write with an imaginary plantation owner accent?
Why does the cat just make up stupid shyte?”
Now that was funny!
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
10:56 am
“As the column points out, over the past 10 years our economic situation relative to the rest of the country has DECLINED significantly, after a couple of decades of strong growth.” – Jay
Jay,
And you seem to be ignoring the macro reasons why the Georgia economy got hit harder. The ajc had an article a couple of years back on Atlanta being disproportionately hit hard relative to many other cities because it was a technology center and we had lost a lot of technology jobs beginning with the dot.com bubble burst. The recession didn’t help either.
On top of that if I’m not mistaken I think Atlanta’s housing and construction boom was one of the biggest in the nation and a prime driver of our economy. And we all know that with the housing meltdown that virtually that entire industry went into the pooper.
But then I guess it was easier just to blame the Rs for the last 10 years than to look at some of the macro trends that are behind why Georgia lost so much ground so quickly. And your robots on here just ate it up that simpleton explanation they did.
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
10:56 am
USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
10:44 am
I don’t see that DEMS have done anything terribly wrong that we know about yet..or will know for years. I do feel the healthcare bill will prove a financial disaster due to flawed partnerships and the projections regarding costs and outcome improvement are highly suspect.
If anything I highly criticize both parties for the small-ball crap they call progress. More importantly if the process is flawed we get flawed results…like everything coming out of DC..its broken and our interests are lowest on the totem poll…
Finally, our politician are afraid to come clean on the depths of our real economic problems…both are too spineless to do anything other than run with data most favorable..
Jay
January 9th, 2013
10:57 am
Would that be the Illinois with an annual per capita income some $7,300 higher than Georgia, with a much lower poverty rate than Georgia, with a rate of uninsured citizens roughly a third lower than in Georgia, with a high-school graduation rate of 84%, compared to 67% for Georgia?
You mean THAT Illinois?
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
10:57 am
GB: During slavery times 100% of Blacks were employed, had housing, clothing and medical attention provided to them by their master.
Care to post the BLS reports from 1850?
http://www.bls.gov/bls/infohome.htm
BLS History
The Bureau of Labor Statistics has provided essential economic information to support public and private decision-making since 1884. Learn about past BLS milestones, anniversaries, and commissioners.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
10:57 am
Wow.
Maybe there is a tiny silver lining to the pollution kings and the anti-environmentalists trying to destroy the planet.
Thanks to global warming, my gas bill was down 43% last year! (Doing my taxers, ugh!)
Edward
January 9th, 2013
10:57 am
Maybe corporations ARE getting what they want here in Georgia. With unemployment high, education low, corporations can be very choosy on who they hire and wages/benefits they offer. Don’t like your job, get abused at work, get a lower-than-average salary? Tough, the company will just hire someone else who is willing. Seems like the perfect business environment for typical American corporations now. As long as management can rake in big bucks, who cares?
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
10:58 am
Adam
January 9th, 2013
10:52 am
How on earth did we get to slavery? Who introduced that horrid issue into the various discussions here?
St Simons - aboriginal Bootakook 2014
January 9th, 2013
10:59 am
as for that climate change denier stuff, we have a bet down here.
There’s a piling where the water used to come to. And there’s a stump
where the water comes to now. The bet is – put your money/life where
your big mouth is – deniers handcuff themselves to the piling from 40
years ago, I’ll handcuff myself to the stump.
I’ll keep the key heheh
Now – we wait for high tide.
We haven’t had ONE bigmouth climate denier take that bet since
we’ve been here, which pretty much means they’re full of crap,
and they know they’re full of crap.
good news for cons is their credibility can’t go below zero.
DebbieDoRight - When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
10:59 am
Rafe @ 10:41 — You forgot to take your meds today.
Paul @ 10:41 — You.Are. SOOO. BAD!!!! but I like that about you!
Stevie: Which side will profit more? The companies having to pay insane amounts or those who profit from selling solutions that may not change things one way or another?
You’re talking money right? How about health? Will the HEALTH of our children profit or loose by incorporating clean air and water standards? What does long instances of breathing in bad air do to young lungs?
Without children begating even more children, the US won’t last beyond another 50 years.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
11:00 am
Bro @ 10:54
I read that article a few weeks ago. Some telling information on the wide range in quality of our state’s education and of course the role that the tax bases plays.
julia
January 9th, 2013
11:02 am
To quote Fredrick Alan, if Atlanta could suck as well as it blows, it would be a seaport.
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
11:02 am
Jay
January 9th, 2013
10:57 am
Regardless, we have vitually the same current unemployment rate as Illinois…8.5% versus 8.7% for IL…
The unknown is whether the situation would be better or worse if the current treatment in either state was not the case…
williebkind
January 9th, 2013
11:03 am
“I know it’s wrong to dwell in the past, but savor, for a moment, the unbridled idiocy of the sentiment contained in this story’s headline.”
Good grief who would ever believe what liberals write as a fair and balanced story.
Jay
January 9th, 2013
11:03 am
“And you seem to be ignoring the macro reasons why the Georgia economy got hit harder.”
No, I don’t, Thulsa. Had you bothered to actually look at the data, you would find that Georgia’s relative decline on measures such as poverty rate and per capita income actually pre-dated the recession.
For example, by 2006 — before the recession — per capita income in this state had already fallen to 37th in the nation, down from 25th just five years earlier.
Convenient and ideologically soothing as it might seem, blaming the recession just doesn’t cut it.
Jefferson
January 9th, 2013
11:05 am
So which businesses lowered their prices, or paid their employees (the workers,not the talkers) better as a result of the cost saving of the tax on utilities ?
Or did they just keep the cost savings, and a room of suit decide how to split it up among themselves ?
Adam
January 9th, 2013
11:06 am
Stevie Ray: How on earth did we get to slavery? Who introduced that horrid issue into the various discussions here?
The post is right before the one I made quoting it. But please do not respond to him or even talk about him. He’s just trying to egg people on.
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
11:06 am
DebbieDoRight – When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
10:59 am
Seems to me that assuming water and air quality will deteriorate to levels that will adversely affect our kids is a stretch. Heck, that’s a good opportunity for a green tech manufacturer to come up with mechanism to minimize or eliminate any unwanted health affects if the water and air get too contaminated by the lot of us..
Who knows?
GT
January 9th, 2013
11:06 am
The Republican Party was a viable national party up to the evasion of the segregationist from the old southern Democratic Party. Once again the Republican short term gain was actually a long term loss and the Democratic long term gain. You woke up one morning with Strom Thurman as a bedmate. You also unleashed the baggage of the Democratic Party, these crazy selfish and idiotic red states that compromised the will of the middle of the Democratic Party. Now they are with the Republicans doing the same thing, eradicating a moderate position in the Republican Party and now are their cancer instead of the Democrats.
williebkind
January 9th, 2013
11:08 am
“Seems like the perfect business environment for typical American corporations now. As long as management can rake in big bucks, who cares?”
Is that not the results of the college education everyone keeps talking about? It does not matter if you are good or bad employee/employer as long as you have the basket weaving degree you are mandated to receive a huge salary. If you want to succeed on blogs, you must have two or more degrees.
MANGLER
January 9th, 2013
11:08 am
They way your Georgians bicker with each other and name call, is it any surprise that your legislature does the same thing? You don’t care enough about your neighbors and fellow Georgians to listen to them, show courtesy to them, let them merge, fund their schools or their mass transit, lend a hand when they’ve fallen down, or work with them to form anything resembling unity – but you’ll sure as Sugar Honey Iced Tea demand unemployment bennies, SS, and Medicaid disbursements from them, and that YOUR roads be widened all while lowering your tax rates.
Roy Barnes
January 9th, 2013
11:09 am
We need a stronger union presence in Georgia, and an old fashioned, tax and spend Democrat in the governor’s mansion, like in the good old days.
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
11:09 am
Stevie Ray @ 10:58
There’s a donkey fez posting here today. I can’t understand why any true conservative would not blast those who post like that under a “conservative” alias making them all look bad.
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
11:09 am
Adam
January 9th, 2013
11:06 am
I always liked Churchill’s quote about an adversary:]
MacDonald has the gift of compressing the largest amount of words into the smallest amount of thoughts.
DebbieDoRight - When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
11:09 am
SoCoBro: As to the educational aspect, we’re in agreement. That plays a big role in things, and it has nothing to do with race at all. It’s a matter of wealthy vs poor, and in the state of Georgia, the poor are getting their ass kicked quite handily.
That’s horrible isn’t it? It’s like the 50’s all over again! There isn’t supposed to be any “Separate But Equal”; but we can see the disparity in educational funding daily.
That’s why my niece is going to Atlanta Girls School when she’s of age. I’ve already told her Moms this is how it’s going to be. And when she graduates from there, she’ll be going to Spelman. Then when she graduates from Spelman she can go to either Harvard or become a Rhodes Scholar. Those are her choices.
As for my nephews, I’m debating on what’s a good school for boys – preferably a BOYS ONLY school where they can concentrate on their schoolbooks and not schoolgirls. Hopefully by the time i have to worry about that, they’ll have something I’m interested in.
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
11:10 am
TBS
Things like that go completely ignored too. Damn shame.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
11:10 am
“UK – You seem to have been around, I like that.”
Oscar – don’t know about been around, but let’s just say that I didn’t marry when I was 22
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
11:11 am
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
11:09 am
Hopefully, those conservatives are mostly just ignoring him…of course I don’t know for sure if the conservatives have a corner on the bigotry market or not….I do agree that silence can be interpreted into an answer….
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
11:11 am
“We need a stronger union presence in Georgia, and an old fashioned, tax and spend Democrat in the governor’s mansion, like in the good old days.”
Bring back Tom Murphy, says I.
alex
January 9th, 2013
11:14 am
having an NFL team does not significantly impact the economics of the city, I’m completely against a new arena for Blank’s ego…Let Birmingham have the Falcons…Interesting data, empiricly this state attracts many newcomers looking for a job because they could not find a job in their home state (ex Michigan or Ohio), could the unemployment rate reflect these newcomers who already have poor job skills as reflected by their employment history? @ gt i MADE THAT POINT ON THIS BLOG MONTHS AGO…anyway agree with you and therefore with the recent electoral loss the repubs hope that they can reject the extremist (to borrow a Jay term) and move onto long term strategic goals of maintaining some element of personal responsibility as opposed to state responsibility of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 9th, 2013
11:15 am
“Rednecks, White Trash and Crackers”
OHMY!
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 9th, 2013
11:16 am
Edward
January 9th, 2013
10:57 am
Maybe corporations ARE getting what they want here in Georgia. With unemployment high, education low, corporations can be very choosy on who they hire and wages/benefits they offer. Don’t like your job, get abused at work, get a lower-than-average salary? Tough, the company will just hire someone else who is willing. Seems like the perfect business environment for typical American corporations now. As long as management can rake in big bucks, who cares?
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Edward nails it.
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The State Overseer doesn’t recognize Republicans or Democrats,black or white,……….only livestock.
But the State loves…….and needs…….those who do.
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Forward Fiddle.
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
11:17 am
Stevie Ray
You have to remember that many of the conservatives here are constantly asking liberals to vocally denounce things, so I think that goes both ways. You can’t ask for something you’re not willing to do yourself.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
11:18 am
“That plays a big role in things, and it has nothing to do with race at all.”
Brocephus,
Yep. We definitely agree on that. Except that like I was saying I think a poor education system and the gulf between rich, affluent systems and poorer systems might disproportionately hurt blacks more. Not sure but that’s what I would guess.
burntgrassroot
January 9th, 2013
11:20 am
Jay, thank you for this essay. If your goal was to educate, outrage and motivate us to reevaluate our goals as Georgians, and the process for reaching those goals, you have succeeded mightily. My coffee doesn’t even taste good this morning.
When Gov. Barnes was in office, to attract businesses to Georgia, I believe he instituted a moratorium on payroll taxes (unemployment contribution?) for employers. Is that correct? If so, has it been reinstated?
The southern strategy is still working because southerners are deluded into thinking that politics is about race (i.e. ethnicity) and redistribution of wealth, when it’s always been about economics, class and allocation of power. Although I don’t know the context of the following quote (aren’t intellectuals part of the bourgeoisie?), I think its sentiment is relevant. “Indignation about the powers that be and the bourgeois fools who did their bidding—that was all you needed … You were an intellectual.” —Tom Wolfe, Harper’s, June 2000
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
11:20 am
We need a stronger union presence in Georgia…
Oh heavens no! The Republinazis will never go for that!
Labor unions should all be banned so that we can double down on the 3.5 percent decline in Georgia incomes since 2001!
You honestly think that part of the solution is to have someone in a position of power who actually stands up FOR the little guy and AGAINST the trickle downers???!!!
Hell, that detestable Uncle Sam tries meekly to do that once in awhile and the godly conservatives have declared a jihad on him for doing so.
After all it was NOT the 1% who have created all of these injustices in this country, it was the lazy stupid mooches in the 47%!
Fortunately the American fascists are in DEEP doo doo these days.
Speaking of which, I think Kyle is so fed up with his “conservative” malcontents and miscreants over there, he may never open up again!
Welcome to the Occupation
January 9th, 2013
11:24 am
“It’s also foolish to pretend that “Rs only took over the governorship here 10 years.” In many ways, the same people are in charge as were in charge when I came to Georgia in 1990”
Amusing to imagine transporting Thulsa Doom back about 20 years in time. He would be confused trying to speak on local politics in the South. Everything he would want to support would be dubbed “Republican” but he would be deprived of a clear cut party affiliation for his positions as some of the individuals advancing them would be under the “Democrat” aegis while others would be Republican. No such problem for him today.
Such is the role of partisanship in our politics today.
Intellectual short-hand for the less educated masses.
DebbieDoRight - When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
11:24 am
Seems to me that assuming water and air quality will deteriorate to levels that will adversely affect our kids is a stretch.
You’re kidding right? I mean, you can’t REALLY be serious!
Do you know WHY the EPA was started? Here’s a brief history:
For years, raw sewage, industrial and feedlot wastes had been discharged into rivers and lakes without regard for the cumulative effect that made our waters unfit for drinking, swimming, and boating. Smokestack omissions and automobile exhausts made air pollution so bad in certain communities that some people died and many were hospitalized. The land itself was being polluted by indiscriminate dumping of municipal and industrial wastes and some very toxic chemicals that would later come to the fore when their steel drum containers would rust and leak hazardous materials into soil and aquifers.
For decades Americans had assumed that air and water were free and plentiful and the industrial community gave little thought to pollution. Following World War II, however, several developments changed this picture. The U.S. experienced a vast increase in throw-away packaging: cans, bottles, plastics, and paper products–and the introduction into the marketplace of thousands of new synthetic organic chemicals. As a result of this deluge of waste land toxic materials, the earth’s automatic, self-cleansing, life support systems became increasingly threatened.
http://www.epa.gov/history/topics/epa/15b.html#bg
Also here’s a story about a river you might’ve heard of:
The Cuyahoga River at one time was one of the most polluted rivers in the United States. The reach from Akron to Cleveland was devoid of fish…….June 22, 1969, when a river fire captured the attention of Time magazine, which described the Cuyahoga as the river that “oozes rather than flows” and in which a person “does not drown but decays”.[14]
A view of the river from the Ohio and Erie Canal Tow-Path Trail
The 1969 Cuyahoga River fire helped spur an avalanche of water pollution control activities, resulting in the Clean Water Act, Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement, and the creation of the federal Environmental Protection Agency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyahoga_River
Stevie: Heck, that’s a good opportunity for a green tech manufacturer to come up with mechanism to minimize or eliminate any unwanted health affects if the water and air get too contaminated by the lot of us..
Yes, but what are we going to do in the meantime? Ignore the problem? History has told us that money, not necessity is the mother of all invention. But until someone deems that they an make a big enough profit to offset their expenses in coming up with a solution, then we still have to protect the environment.
Erwin's cat
January 9th, 2013
11:25 am
After all it was NOT the 1% who have created all of these injustices in this country, it was the lazy stupid mooches in the 47%!
are those the only 2 choices?
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
11:25 am
DDR @ 11:09
Nothing wrong with that plan there sister. I don’t know which way my lil one will go, but you’d better believe that mommy and daddy will ensure she gets her studies straight.
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
11:27 am
More bleeding heart thoughts from Jay.
Jay fails to put forth a solution as to where the jobs, and therefore tax dollars to transfer to the so-called poor, will come from without incentives to draw business to the state. Of course, in the Liberal mind the ideal is one-world great society. Apparently, it is OK to take from workers of other states to support the poor here.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 9th, 2013
11:28 am
alex: “Let Birmingham have the Falcons…”
Heh. That’ll be the day.
If you had told me 20 years ago that the nation’s second largest city and media market would go not for a year or two, but possibly for decades without an NFL team, I would have dismissed it out of hand as impossible. And I suspect not a few NFL executives would have as well. And yet, that is exactly what is happening, with the NFL seeming to chug along undisturbed by this strange anomaly. It’s quite surprising really.
Paul
January 9th, 2013
11:28 am
DDR
One of the last times we went to MD Anderson for my wife’s annual check, the physician who attended did her undergraduate at Spelman. She was a most impressive individual. A few minutes’ speaking with her and you know she’d rise to the top of whatever field she chose to enter.
That college does good work. It’s good to see you doing that for your niece. That’s what families are for.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
11:28 am
“No, I don’t, Thulsa. Had you bothered to actually look at the data, you would find that Georgia’s relative decline on measures such as poverty rate and per capita income actually pre-dated the recession.”
“For example, by 2006 — before the recession — per capita income in this state had already fallen to 37th in the nation, down from 25th just five years earlier.”
And I think you might need some tutoring from Kyle next door who spoke yesterday on a very similar topic regarding incomes and demographics.
Trends such as the rise in single parent households which will affect the poverty rate and per capita income per household. And due to demographics those trends will be worse in Georgia. And no. Doomy is not blaming black folks for all of this. Plenty of single young white women out here in the sticks that are having kids and starting a cycle of poverty and govt dependence. The good thing for libs is that its another Dem voter looking for more social program spending.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
11:28 am
So cat, tell me who you think is responsible for the vast amount of injustice in this country.
Presuming you even think there is any…
Brosephus™
January 9th, 2013
11:30 am
Doom
Why would you guess that? Check that AJC article I posted a link to earlier. I don’t think race makes as much of a difference as you think. Most Blacks in Georgia live in urban areas, and they generally have a higher tax base, even Clayton County, than most rural Georgia areas. I don’t know if you can even interject race in this one. It’s simply wealthy vs poor, and the poor are getting their asses handed to them on a silver platter.
The entire basis of conservative economic policy is to grow wealth. If you don’t have wealth to begin with, those policies don’t aid you much at all. Tax cuts, in the forms they are pushed, don’t help the poor or working poor. They are not designed nor passed to do such a thing. They are meant to help those with means to keep even more. They don’t increase job creation. Demand does that, and you can’t tax cut demand into an increase.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
11:30 am
I wonder how much Georgia being essentially a one city state has to do with all of this.
Tundra Dude
January 9th, 2013
11:31 am
Two years of Governor Kocher (Walker) attempting to be “business friendly” isn’t paying off in Wiscy, either.
We’ve dropped to 42nd in job creation. His 4-year goal of 250k jobs ain’t happenin’….not even close.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
11:32 am
“Apparently, it is OK to take from workers of other states to support the poor here.”
You mean that hotel tax to help poor team owners?
n
January 9th, 2013
11:32 am
The most venal and corrupt among us populate the GA legislature. It was true during the era of Democratic control, and it is true now. The difference is that the Republicans are new to power and full of arrogance and hubris, and the conviction that we the people are nothing but sheep to be fleeced over and over again. For the past decade they have seemingly lacked the subtlety of the Democrats, who fleeced us with equal success, but had the circumspection required to successfully hide their tracks, and did occasionally make the effort to accomplish something beneficial to the people who elected them. Unfortunately for all of us, the current Republican leadership’s “lack of ethics” has not been not enough to attract the attention of seemingly otherwise-occupied law enforcement agencies, so Georgia’s reputation as a decent place to live & raise children has continued it’s down slide, while the legislators and the state leadership devote themselves to self-enrichment, while allowing education, environment, financial system, infrastructure and quality of life to plummet.
And the truly strange thing is that they are apparently proud of making GA into a bleak backwater state, where the populace is kept ignorant and poor.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
11:32 am
“Amusing to imagine transporting Thulsa Doom back about 20 years in time.”- Welcome to the occupation
Naw. Real amusement is watching you try to make sense.
Erwin's cat
January 9th, 2013
11:32 am
Jam – depends on the particular “injustice”
whoever said life was “fair”?
will-o-the-wisp
January 9th, 2013
11:32 am
Yes, USinUK; more than 50% of the population in 70% of the land area in GA have high school or less education, so it should be no secret how voters are seduced into corporate bondage.
alex
January 9th, 2013
11:34 am
@ Debbie, the Cuyahoga is now clean, only there is nobody left in Cleveland to notice,……sad really, once a vibrant, creative city-destroyed by incompetent mayors and businesses ( and ,of course, the weather does not help)
Erwin's cat
January 9th, 2013
11:34 am
You mean that hotel tax to help poor team owners?
The city is pushing for that to keep the Falcons in the city and not lose them to the burbs
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
11:35 am
Doomy, and I blasted him for using “households” as the metric.
Note that the income decline of 3.5% in Georgia is per capita, not per household.
His flaccid response was funny, in that he actually bolstered MY argument.
IMUO, counting household income as the primary indicator is just deflecterbation…
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
11:35 am
JamVet – That would be greedy people.
GT
January 9th, 2013
11:35 am
We need a stronger union presence in Georgia, and an old fashioned, tax and spend Democrat in the governor’s mansion, like in the good old days
Local corruption doesn’t bother you? What they steal would pay 10 tax bills for each individual citizen, what they screw up would provide income for two Georgias. I have always said Lord let me make the income and I will gladly pay my taxes. Stolen money seldom has a tax just no boxes to check on the form, I guess.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 9th, 2013
11:35 am
JohnnyReb: “Jay fails to put forth a solution as to where the jobs, and therefore tax dollars to transfer to the so-called poor”
You say that as though there are not tax dollars being transferred in the trillions to the so-called “rich”, which continues right as we speak.
Why is that ok with you, JohnnyReb? Haven’t the rich gotten enough tax handouts and wealth transferred to them? Or are you confused? Do I need to explain the basics of our political-economic system to you?
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
11:36 am
“how voters are seduced into corporate bondage.”
“corporate bondage”??? Libs do like they hyperbole they do.
Quick! Someone help. We got another liberal fainting goat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_3Utmj4RPU
DebbieDoRight - When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
11:36 am
Paul: That college does good work. It’s good to see you doing that for your niece. That’s what families are for.
My favorite aunt went to Spelman — she left provisions in her will for ME to go to Spelman too. She left me her house, some funds and some property, (most of the money I couldn’t get to until I either turned 25 OR graduated from Spelman, with honors — so I still had to get a job to help with tuition and stuff).
I plan to follow in her footsteps and do the same thing for my honey bunny — since I’m much younger when my niece was born than my aunt was when I was born, hopefully I’ll be around to see her graduate too. With honors!
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
11:37 am
“The city is pushing for that to keep the Falcons in the city and not lose them to the burbs”
The Lawrenceville Falcons…hmm…
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
11:38 am
“You mean that hotel tax to help poor team owners?”
No, that’s another related subject. I was in reference to the federal extortion of taxpayers that is being funneled back to the so-called poor. BTW – the Left uses the word “poor,” but what they really mean and believe in their bleeding heart is “not economically equal.”
As to the new Falcons stadium, I have posted opposition here at every opportunity. With the ATL public school system recording almost 100% of families qualifying and receiving the free school meals, there is a lot greater need than giving the Falcons a convertible.
Erwin's cat
January 9th, 2013
11:39 am
The Lawrenceville Falcons…hmm…
They don’t call it Road Braselton do they?
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
11:40 am
“They don’t call it Road Braselton do they?”
Touche!
alex
January 9th, 2013
11:40 am
“seduced into corporate bondage”……OHHHHHH!, Mother Jones is calling…..
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
11:40 am
JamVet,
Deflecterbation? Is that a JamVet invention. I usually don’t read your posts much anymore since we don’t blog battle but sometimes I got to read them just to see what new funnys you come up with. Saw one the other night that had me rolling but I can’t remember what it was. BTW you must be slipping cause I haven’t seen you call anyone mystery meat in a while.
GB
January 9th, 2013
11:40 am
Somebody else is posting comments with my initials. Pay no attention to the false one.
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
11:41 am
Occupation – try to grasp the total economic picture. Laws/tax incentivies were not put in place to screw the poor people. Instead, if the rich have more money they make jobs for others available. Yes, it’s the dreaded trickle-down you guys hate, but it sure as hell beats trickle up poverty.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
11:41 am
” the Left uses the word “poor,” but what they really mean and believe in their bleeding heart is “not economically equal.”
Got a link to the (medical?) source of THAT whopper (I’m guessing Rushie)?
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
11:42 am
cat, you need a dictionary.
jus·tice -noun
1. the quality of being just; righteousness, equitableness, or moral rightness: to uphold the justice of a cause.
2. rightfulness or lawfulness, as of a claim or title; justness of ground or reason: to complain with justice.
3. the moral principle determining just conduct.
4. conformity to this principle, as manifested in conduct; just conduct, dealing, or treatment.
5. the administering of deserved punishment or reward.
Maybe you can find it, but I don’t see the word *fair* in there anywhere, do you?
Again, just answer the question, instead of just deflecterbating and showing your inability to make an intelligent argument outside of your endless simplistic sloganeering.
Ir won’t kill you to take a stand, righteous or otherwise, now and then.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
11:42 am
““seduced into corporate bondage”……”
50 shade of SOMETHING…
Oscar
January 9th, 2013
11:42 am
GB – Howdo we know which posts are by the false one?
Welcome to the Occupation
January 9th, 2013
11:43 am
JamVet: “After all it was NOT the 1% who have created all of these injustices in this country, it was the lazy stupid mooches in the 47%! ”
About as close to dead wrong as it’s possible for a statement to be. The diametrical opposite is the truth.
The 1% are responsible for EVERYTHING that is unjust about our current economic situation.
DebbieDoRight - When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
11:44 am
@ Debbie, the Cuyahoga is now clean, only there is nobody left in Cleveland to notice,……sad really, once a vibrant, creative city-destroyed by incompetent mayors and businesses ( and ,of course, the weather does not help)
Hopefully the people will be back. They just need an incentive. A friend of mine was telling me about all these construction jobs popping up in North Dakota, (I think he said ND); and from what I hear there are a LOT of construction workers who need work, moving up there.
the weather is deplorable, and it’s not a very ethnically diverse state, but if the jobs are there; then people will go to even a cold, darn near arctic state like North Dakota. If they’ll go there, when the jobs return, so will the people, back to Ohio.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
11:44 am
I’ve been seduced into corporate bondage. It don’t feel as good as women though. Does this corporate bondage seduction come with any viagra? Cause so far I just aint feeling it.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
11:45 am
Doomy, we’ve run most of the mystery meats off!
Twink/shove it shows up occasionally but he is so pathetically transparent and childish, most of the people here just laugh at him…
cat, check out Oscar’s response…
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
11:47 am
“The 1% are responsible for EVERYTHING that is unjust about our current economic situation.”- Welcome to the occupation
The workers of the world unite speech can’t be far behind.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 9th, 2013
11:48 am
JohnnyReb: ” Laws/tax incentivies were not put in place to screw the poor people.”
Oh yes they were.
Are you seriously THAT naive?
To the extent that we still have anything progressive remaining in the basic structure of our tax system, it was the product of a New Deal era that has been under attack for 30 years and continues to be under attack every minute.
“Instead, if the rich have more money they make jobs for others available”
Complete and total BS.
Are you seriously that naive?
Hard to know where naivete stops and sheer stupidity begins sometimes.
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
11:49 am
“The Lawrenceville Falcons…hmm”
Nah, they can still be the “Atlanta Falcons” – take a line through Atlanta Motor Speedway, which is down hear Hampton and not in Atlanta at all
Adam
January 9th, 2013
11:49 am
Trends such as the rise in single parent households which will affect the poverty rate and per capita income per household.
First of all, the jury is still out on that. And second of all, making abortions and birth control harder or impossible to get will just make this “problem” SO MUCH BETTER, right?
Tundra Dude
January 9th, 2013
11:49 am
News and production will also be located at a large AJC facility in Gwinnett County.
That facility recently underwent a $30 million enhancement of presses and distribution systems
Oh, wow!
Will they change the name to The Gwinnett Gazzette…?
They could cut costs even more by hiring Opinionaters blogging from Beautiful Downtown Bangalore.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
11:50 am
JamVet,
That’s too bad if you’ve run most of em off. I’ve almost cried laughing so hard when you get to calling folks mystery meat. Jay may not like it but its plenty amusing to the rest of us.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
11:51 am
“After all it was NOT the 1% who have created all of these injustices in this country, it was the lazy stupid mooches in the 47%! ”
Awwww, are those mean old poor people picking on those rich people again? Can’t y’all leave those poor ol’ rich people alone? Don’t you know they don’t have the means to stick up for themselves?
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
11:52 am
Occupation – I feel the same for you.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
11:52 am
Welcome, @11:43, it was meant to be sarcastic…
OF COURSE, the super-rich are responsible! Cat won’t broach that reality with a 3.084 meter pole, but it is nonetheless so.
Their aim is clear – to consolidate more and more and more wealth and power into fewer and fewer and fewer hands.
And their are seeing staggering success!
While the average worker in Georgia saw thier income declin by 3.5% in the past 11 years, what do you suppose was the reality for Georgia’s top 1%
I suspect that their incomes went UP by dozens of percentage points.
This is not by accident. It is all part of the new American Plutocracy.
plutocracy -noun
1. the rule or power of wealth or of the wealthy.
2. a government or state in which the wealthy class rules.
But for the Reaganbots, they have been programmed to vilify the weak (themselves) and glorify the wicked.
So they do.
And it is completely beyond rational explanation…
DebbieDoRight - When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
11:52 am
Instead, if the rich have more money they make jobs for others available. Yes, it’s the dreaded trickle-down you guys hate, but it sure as hell beats trickle up poverty.
Oh? then where ARE those jobs? If the climate is seductive and inclusive here in georgia for businesses to thrive when they get here than where are the jobs?
Did you read Jay’s piece at all? Or the backup data he presented? Did you at least GOOGLE information on the subject from sources that list the current corporate earnings/corporate hiring?
Or, are you going to completely IGNORE all independent data/observations and just parrot the same stuff over and over and over?
At least be original with your parroting if you’re gonna do it. Try adding some new words or something to mix it up. Jeesh!
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
11:53 am
Hey mystery meat,
My address is 123 kickurass street, Conville, USA. Come visit.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
11:54 am
JamVet,
I had to steal the mystery meat for one post.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 9th, 2013
11:55 am
She left me her house, some funds and some property, (most of the money I couldn’t get to until I either turned 25 OR graduated from Spelman, with honors — so I still had to get a job to help with tuition and stuff).
Well, I figure asking DebbieDoEverybody to graduate anyplace with honors is sort of like having a hog for a prom date. But then, I had some crazy aunts too.
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
11:55 am
Adam – the jury is not out on single parent household poverty, it’s a fact. And, its also a fact the problem is worse in the black race. I’m sure however that has nothing to do with the number of poor people in Atlanta. After all, there is to be a TV show showing the success of one black man having 10 children with 10 different women. I wonder if he is a Mormon?
liberal hack
January 9th, 2013
11:56 am
Jay, giving a “tax break” to build an NFL stadium is welfare too, I try to stay consistent. Like my opposition to both tax breaks for oil, gas, and corn fuel and tax breaks for wind, solar, and other “green energy” sources.
Jay, some people wouldn’t be opposed to paying higher taxes IF they knew that the revenue was being spent/invested wisely. Instead of it going to its entended source, it winds up half spent giving it to political buddies or wasted in bloated gov’t bueracries.
You say that the states’ Medicaid program needs to be expanded, I say that isn’t a good idea either, I have a very good friend that is college educated but for whatever reason doesn’t have a good paying job, and has 4 children all on Medicaid and has had them getting gov’t support for over 10 years. He told me he realizes that he can keep his children covered at no cost to him and he has no intention on trying to increase his income to support his family himself, he said why bother, when someone else will…good he doesn’t plan on having more children….
will-o-the-wisp
January 9th, 2013
11:57 am
Thulsa Doom, How is it done? 1. low educational attainment leads to. 2. lack of critical thinking skills then 3. corporate pitchmen are able to exploit by offering seductive promises: jobs, increased tax revenues, and so on; 4. local, state and federal legislators, exert political influence, and enable public relations through media outlets to sway public opinion in favor of their agendas, which are not, usually in the Public’s best interest, but most certainly, always,beneficial to corporate interests , and the politicians who’s power enables them.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 9th, 2013
11:57 am
JamVet, how did I mistake you? Well said.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 9th, 2013
11:59 am
JohnnyReb: “Occupation – I feel the same for you.”
The beginning of a beautiful hate.
We need more hate actually.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
12:00 pm
JohnnyReb,
You can’t argue facts with someone who doesn’t understand that if you’re a single parent household that statistically you are far more likely to be in poverty. If someone doesn’t understand that then what the hell do they understand?
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
12:00 pm
“Can’t y’all leave those poor ol’ rich people alone?”
Seriously. Whats wrong with you people? Georgia is candidate for the new car elevator factory. It wouldn’t surprise me if we’re out of the running now.
Georgia is a Bible Belt state. Us Republicans are tired of liberals and their immoral behavior. Jesus loved the rich and hated the poor. Blessed are the Job Creators. Poor people, its time to open your Bibles, Romney 2:2- “Poor people if you want to get into heaven, sell your Obamaphone and give the money to a Job Creator.”
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
12:01 pm
DebbieDoRight – When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
11:24 am
Serious…so if the past is indicative of the future, there is plenty of evidence we can clean this stuff up effectively….yes I’m familiar with the success stories of favorable environments outcomes. You seem to be suggesting that historic environmental disasters are indicative of the future…
Perhpas I’m missing your point..
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
12:02 pm
“My address is 123 kickurass street, Conville, USA. Come visit.”
I guessed right, Thulsa Doom is in prison.
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
12:03 pm
So many bleeding hearts and redistributionists here that know so little.
America does not promise equality. Yea, we have laws that promise civil equality, not economic equality.
America promises opportunity, but that’s not good enough for some. No, they see successful people and just know they got successful by screwing the poor. BS
This is Barrack Obama BS. If you don’t like it here, move to another country. What, can’t find one as good as America?
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
12:03 pm
“corporate pitchmen are able to exploit”
Well golly gee. What the hell kinda pitches are they throwing in their exploitation- screwballs, forkballs, changeups, curves, sliders, or the high heater? MLB may need some of these pitchmen.
“by offering seductive promises:”
Oh Lordy. We’re getting seduced again. Someone pass the Viagra. If there’s no woman involved then I’m a gonna need it.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
12:03 pm
D. DoRight — “A friend of mine was telling me about all these construction jobs popping up in North Dakota, (I think he said ND)”
Williston, ND. I’ve been reading their local newspaper for some months. If anyone else would care to have a look, here you go:
http://www.willistonherald.com/
And here’s a local NBC affiliate:
http://www.kumv.com/
I’m mostly interested in the local news in Williston, because I’m curious to see how the folks there bear up under the massive influx of workers and people looking to do business. The area has been and continues to go through some pretty serious growing pains. Local businesses can’t find enough workers — even for pizza joints — so wages are going sky-high. There’s not enough housing, so rents are skyrocketing. Some enterprising homeless workers have taken to living out of tents, RVs and illegally constructed shacks — and those bring their own sets of problems.
In addition to the local news, I recommend the Opinion section as well. It’s clear that the local residents are discontent, and some of them even are opposed to the influx of business, citing road damage, crowds, traffic, dirt and scruffy men using ‘colorful’ language in front of local residents and their kids at grocery stores, etc. And they *sure* don’t like being told ‘well, this is how we do it in (insert name of medium- or large-sized city here).
It has really been interesting to see the developments in the Williston area and how the locals are handling things.
getalife
January 9th, 2013
12:04 pm
What?
Slobbering all over the wealthy does not work for you?
Well, try fighting for who you are instead.
Stop being self defeatists clinging to a failed ideology and party.
Do it for your kids cons.
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
12:05 pm
DebbieDoRight – When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
11:52 am
Seems to me there is not meaningful proof that supply side economics is any more effective that demand side…the only thing we I know for sure about economists is that proving any outcome without significant disagreement doesn’t exist. The worst economists IMO are the ones writing opinion columns in media outlets..
It is difficult to prove one correct as it is to prove one is wrong..
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
12:06 pm
No worries, Welcome.
Gawd knows I’ve made a real fool of myself by doing that and more!
Doomy. love that address!
Jay, some people wouldn’t be opposed to paying higher taxes IF they knew that the revenue was being spent/invested wisely.
No doubt and that is a point that I have been making for a long time, lh.
Nobody really loves paying taxes, but the fundamental question is, what are we getting in return.
And the devils are in the details.
And I do swear that for some of the cons, the end game is to pay absolutely nothing for living in the greatest country (IMUO) on earth.
Speaking of would be freeloaders on a giant scale, one of the greatest observations about this past election came from one of my favorite Americans – Mitt Romney is a corporation running for president masquerading as an individual. ~Ralph Nader
You wanna play in the USA, you gotta pay.
And that means you Mr. Corporation…
will-o-the-wisp
January 9th, 2013
12:06 pm
Thulsa Doom”,You can’t argue facts with someone who doesn’t understand that if you’re a single parent household that statistically you are far more likely to be in poverty.”; and, why is that?
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
12:07 pm
“I guessed right, Thulsa Doom is in prison.”
Yes. I’m in D block. A lot of your buddies and some of your relatives are in here Danny boy. Your dad says hi. And your friends asked me to ask you “Whassup?”
the cat
January 9th, 2013
12:07 pm
And they call Sandra Fluke all kinds of names but right here we have our own pig, Thulsa:
Oh Lordy. We’re getting seduced again. Someone pass the Viagra. If there’s no woman involved then I’m a gonna need it.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
12:07 pm
“This is Barrack Obama BS. If you don’t like it here, move to another country. What, can’t find one as good as America?”
And yet it is the Republicans throwing the temper tantrum threatening to move to different countries.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
12:09 pm
.”; and, why is that?
will o the wisp,
If you can’t figure out the answer to that question on your own then you can’t figure out anything.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
12:11 pm
“Well golly gee. What the hell kinda pitches are they throwing in their exploitation-…”
Remember everyone…
Countrywide is on your side…
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
12:11 pm
the cat,
Name calling will get you a vacation cat. Didn’t you know that? Try using a little wit and humor instead. That is if you can think of anything original or humorous to say. A tall task indeed for you.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
12:12 pm
the liberals at Current TV aren’t happy at AL for selling the farm to BIG OIL!
sort of funny isn’t it
Staffers at Current TV aren’t happy about Al Gore’s decision to sell to Al Jazeera, New York Post TV critic Linda Stasi reports:
Yesterday morning, the still shell shocked staff at Current TV was called to an all hands staff meeting at its San Francisco headquarters, which was teleconferenced to their offices in LA and NYC, to meet their new bosses. . . .
“Of course Al didn’t show up,” said one high placed Current staffer. “He has no credibility.
“He’s supposed to be the face of clean energy and just sold [the channel] to very big oil, the emir of Qatar! Current never even took big oil advertising–and Al Gore, that bulls***ter sells to the emir?” . . .
The displeasure with Gore among the staff was thick enough to cut with a scimitar.
“We all know now that Al Gore is nothing but a bulls***ter,” said the staffer bluntly.
WSJ
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
12:13 pm
Reb also needs a dictionary.
He thinks justice and equality are synonyms…
Republispeak though interesting, is generally useless…
Adam
January 9th, 2013
12:13 pm
The jury IS still out on whether the “rise” in single parent households means that statistically more people are in poverty, in a cause and effect manner.
Unless you can show otherwise.
Cause = single parent household
Effect = poverty
This has not been proven.
Stevie Ray
January 9th, 2013
12:13 pm
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
12:07 pm
Of course he is no Alec Baldwin..
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
12:13 pm
Btw America…
AIG is on your side too!
Adam
January 9th, 2013
12:14 pm
Excuse me, what hasn’t been proven is this:
Cause = statistically significant increase in single parent households
Effect = statistically significant more poverty
Adam
January 9th, 2013
12:14 pm
And btw, LUNCH
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
12:15 pm
JAY
blame it on not passing the T-SPLOST in Metro Atlanta………… you warned us………. so much it was RETROACTIVE
the cat
January 9th, 2013
12:15 pm
Still here Thulsa, you big ole bully.
will-o-the-wisp
January 9th, 2013
12:16 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/09/kbr-guilty-iraq-negligence_n_2436115.html,KBR wants taxpayers to pay for its poisoning of soldiers.
Richard
January 9th, 2013
12:18 pm
I realize that this is off message, but I can’t believe all the fuss over Musberger commenting about Katheryn Webb’s beauty. He didn’t call her hot and sexy, just very attractive and beautiful. She’s a beauty contestant winner for heaven sakes, who relishes in people appreciating her good looks. Have we gotten so “politically correct” in this country that we can’t point out beautiful people as a compliment instead of a debate. She is quite beautiful and the college quarterback is quite lucky to have her.
will-o-the-wisp
January 9th, 2013
12:19 pm
Adam, thank you I know that, apparently, others need to know that too.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
12:20 pm
richard
obviously you aren’t aware
THERE IS A WAR ON WOMEN!
the cat
January 9th, 2013
12:22 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
12:20 pm
richard
obviously you aren’t aware
THERE IS A WAR ON WOMEN!
Proven by the overwhelming majority of women voting against republicans.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
12:26 pm
He didn’t call her hot and sexy, just very attractive and beautiful.
I think it was the 17th time that got to people.
Once ok fine. But he went on and on and on
It got a little creepy.
DebbieDoRight - When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
12:26 pm
Redneck: Well, I figure asking DebbieDoEverybody to graduate anyplace with honors is sort of like having a hog for a prom date.
You mean you didn’t take the Missus to your 6th Grade Graduation Reddy? FYI — You can always find fashionable wear for her at Abdullah’s Tents or Bob’s SportsWorld. There’s no need for her to be left home!
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Stevie: Perhpas I’m missing your point..
Yep you are — but no biggie. At least you didn’t pretend and then started spouting off some random stuff. I appreciate that!
Stevie: Seems to me there is not meaningful proof that supply side economics is any more effective that demand side…the only thing we I know for sure about economists is that proving any outcome without significant disagreement doesn’t exist.
Google the corporate earnings vs. the “middle class” earnings in the past 40 years. Then google the income disparity between the decades and the disadvantage of outsourcing. After that google the differential between GDP of a person making over $1m and a person making under.
What does this have to do with “trickle down economics”? Oh about the same thing your comment just did.
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Joe M: It has really been interesting to see the developments in the Williston area and how the locals are handling things.
Wow! I had no idea that it was just ONE AREA of the state! I thought it was the whole state! This is going to be REAL interesting, (the influx of workers/job ratio) real fast! Thanks for the link!
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All – If Single Parenting is the catalyst to the destruction of all things in America, then why are some on the blog so dead set against abortion?
Make abortions easier, DOWN goes the birth rate! Seems like a win/win to me……
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
12:27 pm
“politically correct”
The 90s called and said they wanted Bill Maher back.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
12:28 pm
THERE IS A WAR ON WOMEN!
The sluts, prostitutes and FemiNazis deserve it.
And if you ask real nice, Rush will send you copies of his videos. ($49.99 and $39.99 shipping and handling)
Welcome to the Occupation
January 9th, 2013
12:31 pm
Richard: “I realize that this is off message, but I can’t believe all the fuss over Musberger commenting about Katheryn Webb’s beauty.”
Completely agree. Did he get a little excited? Sure. But this broadcaster gets excited about lots of things in a broadcast. So what.
Our weird prudery about things like people of different generations expressing attraction comes through loud and clear sometimes. What’s wrong with an older man getting excited about a beautiful younger woman? Nothing that I can see.
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
12:32 pm
JamVet – the word “justice” is not in my post. But, its in your mind, as in “social justice.” Translated, that would be economic equality which is as I stated not guaranteed in America. Now, little Barry, being a black liberation radical and community instigator, wants America to guarantee economic equality. He’s trying to make it that way but receives opposition at every turn.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
12:33 pm
“Ninety percent of single-parent families are headed by females. Not surprisingly, single mothers with dependent children have the highest rate of poverty across all demographic groups (Olson & Banyard, 1993). Approximately 60 percent of U.S. children living in mother-only families are impoverished, compared with only 11 percent of two-parent families. The rate of poverty is even higher in African-American single-parent families, in which two out of every three children are poor.”
Nope. Single parent households do not have correspondingly higher rates of poverty. None at all. KD. No correlation whatsoever. None I tell ya.
http://www3.uakron.edu/schulze/401/readings/singleparfam.htm
barking frog
January 9th, 2013
12:33 pm
THERE IS A WAR ON WOMEN!
………………………………………………..
who is winning?
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
12:36 pm
“who is winning?”
“They” are
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
12:36 pm
the cat
January 9th, 2013
12:15 pm
Still here Thulsa, you big ole bully.
the cat,
Yup. Are you “monitoring” me again like you said you were doing a month or so ago? Are you watching me like you said you would to make sure I behave? You know- keep me in line?
Welcome to the Occupation
January 9th, 2013
12:36 pm
JohnnyReb: “America promises opportunity..”
And it’s is increasingly failing to deliver. Put it this way: it’s not living up. Not cutting it.
Haven’t you been paying any attention at all to what’s been happening in this country?
getalife
January 9th, 2013
12:37 pm
“It’s Official: Worst. Congress. Ever…”
Stay the course cons.
Our President needs a new house in 14.
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
12:37 pm
“THERE IS A WAR ON WOMEN!” – and minorities.
All of Obama’s appointees are old white guys.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
12:39 pm
Reb, did you just puke on your keyboard? Because your last made no sense at all…
But, its in your mind, as in “social justice.”
You have a helluva time even communicating what is in your mind, and you are trying to do that for me?
Hysterical.
Hello? i was referring to economic justice as the topic was…………………. economics.
But as you are so racially hung up on those uppity blah people and social policies, I can see why you are obsessed with it and them…
Welcome to the Occupation
January 9th, 2013
12:39 pm
JohnnyReb: “America promises opportunity..”
A country ought to be careful what it promises.
People might start expecting it to actually deliver.
Get my drift?
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
12:39 pm
“It’s Official: Worst. Congress. Ever…”
Yesterday they reported on the news that Congress is now polling lower than head lice and cockroaches in popularity
barking frog
January 9th, 2013
12:39 pm
who is winning?”
“They” are
…………………………..
I thought they might be.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
12:40 pm
NYTIMES: OBAMA SKEWS TOWARD MALE APPOINTEES…
WH: We pick Cabinet based on qualification, not gender…
drudgey spam.
the cat
January 9th, 2013
12:40 pm
Thulsa-you flatter yourself. Just taking screen shots of some of your more newsworthy drunken posts.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
12:41 pm
“who is winning?”
Given that the GOP has lost seven consecutive elections, when counting just the female vote in this country, and are likely to lose the next seventeen, I would venture that it is not the Limbaugh-led cons!
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
12:42 pm
“THERE IS A WAR ON WOMEN!’
Jeez. Lemme get the sniper rifle out again. Ya’ll are slacking while I’m doing my part. I’ve taken out most of them up here. I at least got all the fatties. They were easy since they tend to be slow moving targets.
The thin ones?- they’re a little harder being fast and all and harder to keep up with when they’re running.
And then the ones that are not only thin but well endowed. Well they’re just about impossible to take out once you sight them in your scope. The problem is that when they’re running you sorta get distracted and instead of continuing the war you just end up ogling them. Before you know it they’ve made their escape. And you’re just left sitting there with a scope and a um, uh, never mind.
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
12:42 pm
“Given that the GOP has lost seven consecutive elections, when counting just the female vote in this country”
except the “War on Women” is not about voting
DebbieDoRight - When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
12:44 pm
And if you ask real nice, Rush will send you copies of his videos. ($49.99 and $39.99 shipping and handling)
Ugghhh I’ve seen that video — and it’s not pretty. Rush should stick with stealing viagara, popping oxycontin, and trying to get laid by some pretty boys in the Dominican Republic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcBpNHE6SlA
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
12:45 pm
I am trying not to bust a gut laughing at Reb’s “black liberation radical”.
Sounds like something right out of…
http://www.kkk.com/
“There is a race war against whites. But our people – my white brothers and sisters – will stay committed to a non-violent resolution. That resolution must consist of solidarity in white communities around the world. The hatred for our children and their future is growing and is being fueled every single day. Stay firm in your convictions. Keep loving your heritage and keep witnessing to others that there is a better way than a war torn, violent, wicked, socialist, new world order. That way is the Christian way – law and order – love of family – love of nation. These are the principles of western Christian civilization. There is a war to destroy these things. Pray that our people see the error of their ways and regain a sense of loyalty. Repent America! Be faithful my fellow believers. “ ~National Director of The Knights, Pastor Thomas Robb
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
12:46 pm
the cat,
Well hell why didn’t you just say so. If you wanted to see drunk Doomy you shoulda been here when Bama rolled Notre Dame. There’s nothing like a raging, drunk Doomy screaming roll tide and watching a couple hundred shocked people wondering what the hell he’s gonna do next. When we win another title next year just lemme know and you can come watch. Just beware it aint for the faint of heart.
barking frog
January 9th, 2013
12:47 pm
Thulsa Doom
And you’re just left sitting there with a scope and a um, uh, never mind.
……………………………………………………………………
This moment will determine if you are a massagynist.
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
12:47 pm
“National Director of The Knights, Pastor Thomas Robb”
And I bet he can even quote the Bible to his own evil ends
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
12:47 pm
More kamspam!!! If you don’t like drudge then why to keep posting stuff about it?
Adam
January 9th, 2013
12:49 pm
Thulsa: The latest of the sources used for that article is almost 20 years old. You are citing the CURRENT “RISE in single parenthood” as being a cause and the effect being “more single parenthood poverty” and specifically tying that to areas where black people live. You have a LOOOOONG way to go and lots of data to show in order to prove all that.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
12:49 pm
Pavlovian peapup piddle.
DebbieDoRight - When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
12:50 pm
Haven’t you been paying any attention at all to what’s been happening in this country?
Short answer = NO, I don’t believe he has.
Long answer = YES; if by “pay attention” you mean Obama the Socialist getting elected, He wants to take our guns, He hates white people, he wants to change the constitutution, etc. etc., blah, blah, blah…..
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
12:50 pm
“THERE IS A WAR ON WOMEN!” – and minorities.
All of Obama’s appointees are old white guys.
No suprise there starting with that old incompetent white fart that is VP.
alex
January 9th, 2013
12:51 pm
@ Debbie, what ethnic dversity has to do with bringing people to Dakota or cleveland is only for those preoccupied with ethnic diversity (Spellman??!!). As for a reason, WATER, when it becomes a prohibitively expensive commodity, people will move to the great lake region.Of course eastern ohio has some oil business returning, but what about the pollution…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
12:52 pm
Women are physically unfit to serve in combat, Rep. Tom Cotton (R-AR) claimed during a Tuesday appearance on the Laura Ingraham radio show
The stupidity of the GOPpers is repeated by its Congressional representatives as well as many of its conned posters here.
barking frog
January 9th, 2013
12:53 pm
All of Obama’s appointees are old white guys.
……………………………………………………………..
the pres has daddy issues?
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
12:53 pm
mystery meat,
I need not prove anything to you. Move along now perfesser of global warming.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
12:53 pm
“I am trying not to bust a gut laughing at Reb’s “black liberation radical”.”
Fox and Friends must be showing the scary New Black Panther clip again.
“Ugghhh I’ve seen that video — and it’s not pretty.”
Debbie, have you seen the Rush video of the New Black Panther all dosed up on Viagra, scary stuff. ($49.99 and $39.99 shipping and handling)
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
12:53 pm
Why can’t you just be normal, Kamspam? First it’s your addiction to squirrels. Then it was some smoking cloud. And now it’s an addiction to spamming Jay’s blog with drudge. Go see a psychiatrist or something. Geeze.
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
12:55 pm
Now, little Barry, being a black liberation radical
snort.
GB
January 9th, 2013
12:57 pm
JAY, IF YOU ARE STILL READING, REGARDING ILLINOIS AND GEORGIA INCOME
Is there a correlation between Ga’s and Illinois’ demographics and the income differences? (You said per capita, but the difference you cite is for median household income, but this is a minor point.) Or is the difference because Rod Blogojevich was a better governor than Sonny Perdue?
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
12:57 pm
“Why can’t you just be normal, Kamspam?”
You’re asking quite a lot aren’t you peadawg? Why does the sun rise in the east and not the west. Some things just are because they are.
“First it’s your addiction to squirrels.”
I thought it was gerbils for him. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAA
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
12:59 pm
Speaking of Pavlovian….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87XQKCXfFjQ
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
12:59 pm
Enter your comments here
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:00 pm
“I thought it was gerbils for him. ” – Nope it was definitely squirrels. What a weirdo…
alittlecommonsense
January 9th, 2013
1:01 pm
This article uses one piece of data to prove a point. Why not use 50 pieces of data and see where each state ranks as far as business-friendliness vs unemployment. I guess that would be too much work. Or maybe it would disprove the point Jay is trying to make.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
1:02 pm
Thulsa: I did not realize you were using the term “mystery meat” to refer to me. You don’t know what the term means. Let me help you.
When others use the term mystery meat they are referring to a person who changes their handle on here and proceeds to pretend they are new here.
indigo
January 9th, 2013
1:03 pm
Doom – 12:03
TV advertising agencies have spent many millions learning and perfecting the best techniques in brainwashing and propaganda. Today’s TV commercials speak as to the sort of target audiences they prefer. The large number of these Ads. also speaks to their effectiveness.
There seems little doubt that simple Republican voters are, by far, the most susceptible people to deceit, lies and scams.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
1:04 pm
And btw Thulsa, I never said you have to prove it TO ME. I am saying it hasn’t been proven. Yes, there is a correlation. But correlation does not imply causation, as you yourself are fond of pointing out
williebkind
January 9th, 2013
1:05 pm
“THERE IS A WAR ON WOMEN!”
Yes there is. It is a war on conservative women with traditional values. The extreme prejudice and discrimination against these ladies is criminal but since the culprits have the lame stream media propagating this hate the conservative ladies have no equal voice in the matter.
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:07 pm
Crazy cons telling others to see a psychiatrist is hilarious.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
1:07 pm
” Or is the difference because Rod Blogojevich was a better governor than Sonny Perdue?”
Sonny Perdue was a better governor than George Ryan (R), (Blogojevich’s predecessor.)
George Ryan is still doing time in prison, Perdue is better because he somehow escaped prosecution.
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:08 pm
“Crazy cons telling others to see a psychiatrist is hilarious.”
Kamchak and I are now cons? WOAH!!!
Adam
January 9th, 2013
1:09 pm
In other news, a man with many guns was found dead by gunshot:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/09/keith-ratliff-fpsrussia-dead_n_2439284.html
Having a gun, even if everyone knows you have it, is not a deterrent.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
1:10 pm
lame stream media
DRINK!
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:10 pm
“What a weirdo…”
Peadawg and his understatements.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
1:12 pm
“It is a war on conservative women with traditional values.”
This war is tragic. Just last month i heard someone forced some birth control down Bristol Palin’s throat.
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:12 pm
drudgey played the hitler card.
They are not coming for your guns cons.
Calm down kooks.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
1:12 pm
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-8-2013/scapegoat-hunter—gun-control
“[Do we ban cars] because people get drunk and kill people in cars?”
Jon Stewart: “No, but we do enact stricter blood alcohol limits, raise the drinking age, ramp up enforcement and penalties, and charge bartenders who server drunks and launch huge public awareness campaigns to stigmatize the dangerous behavior in question and we do all those things because it MIGHT just help bring drunk driving rates down, I don’t know, by two thirds in a few decades!”
“There’s all sorts of stuff you can’t have already: Tanks, F-16 fighter jets, Surface-to-air ANYTHING!”
“Now I see what’s happening. So this is what it is: Their paranoid fear of a possible dystopic future prevents us from addressing our ACTUAL dystopic present. We can’t even begin to address 30,000 gun deaths that are actually, in reality, happening in this country every year because a few of us must remain vigilant against the rise of Imaginary Hitler.”
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:13 pm
“Having a gun, even if everyone knows you have it, is not a deterrent.”
The lady up here in Walton county who pumped 5 shots into a home invasion criminal a couple of days ago disagrees with you.
williebkind
January 9th, 2013
1:13 pm
“Why Ga. has so little to show for being so ‘business friendly’”
ATLANTA —
The National Gay and Lesbian Taskforce has announced that Atlanta will host the 25th National Conference on LGBT Equality.
There’s your sign!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
1:18 pm
Kam, you do seem to attract a fan base who are infatuated with you and follow your every word.
All that bromance just waiting your every post. 
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:19 pm
Keep,
cons are creepy stalkers.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
1:19 pm
““Why Ga. has so little to show for being so ‘business friendly’”
ATLANTA —
The National Gay and Lesbian Taskforce has announced that Atlanta will host the 25th National Conference on LGBT Equality.
There’s your sign!”
———————————
Really williebkind? How many US businesses now offer gay employees full benefits? Almost all? Seems like most businesses display a great big “Gays Welcome Here” sign.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
1:19 pm
Keep
I can get them to piddle a duet.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:21 pm
“We can’t even begin to address 30,000 gun deaths that are actually, in reality, happening in this country every year because a few of us must remain vigilant against the rise of Imaginary Hitler.”
Leave it to Jon Stewart to not only mislead people but to pull a godwin’s law all in one statement. Good thing no one takes a kook left comedian serious as a source of information.
There are 30,000 gun deaths per year but only around 11,000 are homicides. Most of the rest are suicides and if guns weren’t around I’m sure those people could just find a bottle of pills to swallow or a rope to hang from. Jeez. What an idiot.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
1:22 pm
Doom — “The lady up here in Walton county who pumped 5 shots into a home invasion criminal a couple of days ago disagrees with you.”
And she’d be wrong. Her weapon didn’t *deter* the burglar — in fact, he admitted to police that he broke into her house to steal. Her weapon *prevented* the crime, but it was in no way a deterrent.
Now, it might deter *future* burglars if they say to themselves ‘damn, the lady in that place shot Jimmy FIVE TIMES. I ain’t breakin’ in THERE.’
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:22 pm
What is it with getalife and kamspam’s obsession with drudge?
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:24 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
1:18 pm
I’m just trying to help Kamspam with all of his/her obsessions and addictions. It’s out of pity, honestly.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
1:24 pm
“What is it with getalife and kamspam’s obsession with drudge?”
Obsession? Just how many times have you brought it up?
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:24 pm
Pea,
drudgey is a drama queen.
HDB
January 9th, 2013
1:24 pm
williebkind
January 9th, 2013
1:13 pm
“Why Ga. has so little to show for being so ‘business friendly’”
ATLANTA —
The National Gay and Lesbian Taskforce has announced that Atlanta will host the 25th National Conference on LGBT Equality.
There’s your sign!
=======================================================================
Could it be that the state has FINALLY decided to find other businesses to attract rather than to “steal” businesses from other states?
The times….they are a-changin’!!!
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:25 pm
Its true. Doomy do like his toys. When his little jack in the box shows up and pops his goofy little head right out of that box well Doomy has just got to play with his toy for a minute or 2. Its my toy and I’ll play with it if I want to.
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:25 pm
Pea,
Your stalking is creepy.
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
1:25 pm
In other news, apparently Pam “Atlas Jugs” Geller is still not dead.
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:25 pm
doomy,
You act like a two year old.
Grow up son.
Matti
January 9th, 2013
1:26 pm
DannyX @ 1:12,
Well technically, if it’s done that way… Heh… No, I can’t say it. :blush:
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
1:26 pm
Pea, are you seriously not aware of where the “Squirrel!” riff arose?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
1:26 pm
Doom — “and pops his goofy little head right out of that box well Doomy has just got to play with his toy for a minute or 2. Its my toy and I’ll play with it if I want to.”
Ew. I don’t think I’d'a told that.
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:27 pm
Once or twice today, twice earlier this week and last.
I just think it’s funny that they complain about drudge…yet still spam Jay’s blog with posts from drudge and talk about them all the time.
I guess I really should stop feeding the trolls.
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:28 pm
“Pea, are you seriously not aware of where the “Squirrel!” riff arose?” – Same place the smoking cloud and drudgy spam.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
1:29 pm
“Well technically, if it’s done that way… Heh… No, I can’t say it. :blush:”
Very, very funny, Matti!
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:29 pm
same place as*
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:32 pm
“Your stalking is creepy.” – So is Kamspam’s stalking of drudge.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
1:32 pm
Same place the smoking cloud and drudgy spam.
Making me wince once again with my association with UGA.
Deductive reasoning has left that once credible institution leaving us with the likes of this.
td
January 9th, 2013
1:34 pm
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:24 pm
Pea,
drudgey is a drama queen.
Or could it be that Drudge actually brings the not so complimentary issues to light about the left that the lame stream media refuses to cover and you committed leftest hate it?
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
1:35 pm
Same place the smoking cloud and drudgy spam.
Ah. That must have been in the director’s cut of the movie.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:36 pm
“Or could it be that Drudge actually brings the not so complimentary issues to light about the left that the lame stream media refuses to cover and you committed leftest hate it?”
Did Drudge also post that over sampling polling LIE that you bit into; hook, line and sinker and was citing all over the AJC blogs?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
1:36 pm
lame stream media
*Drink*
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:37 pm
td,
Showing a picture of hitler and stalin on guns is a drama queen.
He totally disrespects the office of the President.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:37 pm
Joe Mama,
Good point. I did read something interesting a few years back that once Kennesaw enacted its mandatory gun ordinance that burglary rates dropped precipitously. Don’t know if its true or not but I’ve heard it touted several times that Kennesaw has the lowest or one of the lowest burglary rates in the nation after passing that law.
Deterrance does work in my view. Its just common sense imo. If you know that someone is armed you’re not going to go there. If you know the odds are good that someone or their home is unarmed you are much more apt to go there.
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:38 pm
Oh god…now Kamspam has a alcohol addiction.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
1:39 pm
Or could it be that Drudge actually brings the not so complimentary issues to light about the left that the lame stream media refuses to cover and you committed leftest hate it?
Yeah surrreeeee, that’s it. Unskewed reporting….or maybe skewed wingnut right reporting?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
1:40 pm
td — “Or could it be that Drudge actually brings the not so complimentary issues to light about the left that the lame stream media refuses to cover and you committed leftest hate it?”
Drudge doesn’t actually bring anything to light because he doesn’t do any actual reportage. He’s an aggregator, which means that he takes *other* people’s stories and uses them to fill his website.
In that way, even Breitbart is superior to Drudge. And saying that *Breitbart* is superior to anything is quite a putdown. It’s as if Breitbart was raw sewage and Drudge was, oh, let’s say a giant walking Ebola virus, merrily infecting anyone who came near.
td
January 9th, 2013
1:42 pm
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:37 pm
td,
Showing a picture of hitler and stalin on guns is a drama queen.
He totally disrespects the office of the President.
When the VP talks about the President is considering executive order for gun control then it is very appropriate for the thought of Hitler and Stalin to be shown.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
1:43 pm
“Or could it be that Drudge actually brings the not so complimentary issues to light about the left that the lame stream media refuses to cover and you committed leftest hate it?”
td, hate it? I think we love to mock it, that should be obvious. It should also be obvious that you got a lot of your election information from Drudge.
“LANDSLIDE WATCH…Romney up in OH, VA, MI, WI, PA, NC, CO and FL”
Good times, good times.
You will have to pry Drudge mocking from my cold, dead, typing hand!
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:44 pm
I think crazy cons looking at a picture of hitler and stalin on a story about guns will cause the cons to go off and do something stupid.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
1:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w0FGGIpDME
td
January 9th, 2013
1:45 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
1:39 pm
Or maybe it is the one point where Conservatives can come and see what the leftest media is not reporting?
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:45 pm
Danny X
td didn’t need Drudge for his election projections. He stated once that with the “incorrect sampling data” being used by the pollsters, Romney could be up by as much as 10 pts.
bwhahhahahahahahahahahaahah
He actually believed that crap.
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:46 pm
“When the VP talks about the President is considering executive order for gun control then it is very appropriate for the thought of Hitler and Stalin to be shown.”
Do you think President Obama will take your guns con?
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:46 pm
http://calibergroup.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/canspamgraphic.jpg
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:46 pm
“Or maybe it is the one point where Conservatives can come and see what the leftest media is not reporting?”
yeah, the “main stream” media surely missed that “over sampling” STORY(LIE)
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
1:47 pm
“He stated once that with the “incorrect sampling data” being used by the pollsters, Romney could be up by as much as 10 pts.”
Worded that way…he could actually be correct. Just think, if they had “correctly” polled many more R’s than D’s…Romney could have been up by a LOT more than just 10 pts!
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
1:47 pm
“LANDSLIDE WATCH…Romney up in OH, VA, MI, WI, PA, NC, CO and FL”
That was awesome.
And should be a lesson but it will be lost on the Cons.
The people they get their news from. Dead wrong. I mean way way off.
The New York Times, Nate Silver and the lame stream media. Totally nailed it.
Its like that everyday we just dont have an election everyday where they actually do a count and you can point to a number they cant spin or dispute.
dbm
January 9th, 2013
1:47 pm
Adam
January 9th, 2013
8:04 am
Government should not be in the business of being pro- or anti- anyone or anything, except pro individual rights and anti direct or indirect physical aggression.
td
January 9th, 2013
1:47 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
1:40 pm
Drudge is a media outlet that allows the reader to come and take a quick glance at what other conservative news reporting agencies think is important on any given day. He also does a good job of reporting any conservative stories from lib outlets. What is wrong with that?
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
1:48 pm
“Or maybe it is the one point where Conservatives can come and see what the leftest media is not reporting?”
Do you drink for ‘leftist media’ too? Where’s Towncrier with the blog rulebook?
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
1:49 pm
“Yeah surrreeeee, that’s it. Unskewed reporting….or maybe skewed wingnut right reporting?”
Says the followers who get their news from an opinion writer of the ajc.
LOL!
Liberals say the darndest things!
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
1:49 pm
For those unwilling to give the sick closet case a click-through:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/01/09/drudge-links-potential-obama-executive-order-on/192118
Pretty disgusting, even for Mattie-with-the-spunk-stained-hattie.
dbm
January 9th, 2013
1:50 pm
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
8:15 am
To what extent are they being greedy, to what extent are they waiting for government and its effects to become somewhat more predictable, and to what extent are they still adjusting to the changes government has already made?
td
January 9th, 2013
1:50 pm
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:46 pm
“Or maybe it is the one point where Conservatives can come and see what the leftest media is not reporting?”
yeah, the “main stream” media surely missed that “over sampling” STORY(LIE)
You are still stalking me. I do not swing that way dude so you can give it up because you ain’t gettin any from this blogger.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
1:50 pm
Doom — “Good point. I did read something interesting a few years back that once Kennesaw enacted its mandatory gun ordinance that burglary rates dropped precipitously. Don’t know if its true or not but I’ve heard it touted several times that Kennesaw has the lowest or one of the lowest burglary rates in the nation after passing that law.”
I did see a study some years ago that supported the contention that burglary rates would drop in Kennesaw (they did), but burglary rates in *other* nearby communities went *up.*. I can’t recall if the aggregate number of burglaries for the survey area was roughly the same (e.g. the same amount, just fewer around Kennesaw and more in the towns surrounding it) or not.
“Deterrance does work in my view. Its just common sense imo. If you know that someone is armed you’re not going to go there.”
Agreed. As I said, if a burglar knows that the lady in that house has a revolver, knows how to use it and went five-for-six on her last burglar, he’s very unlikely to pick her house for his thieving.
“If you know the odds are good that someone or their home is unarmed you are much more apt to go there.”
I think it was a week or two ago that I mentioned visiting my best friend Mikey out in Phoenix some years ago. His favorite gun store will *rent* weapons (you just pay for the ammo you use plus the rental fee) if you want to pop a few shots on a weapon you don’t own but maybe always wanted. Anyhow, as we were leaving, I noticed a pile of realty-agent-style signs near the door, which read — in large, bold letters — “ARMED RESPONSE.” A clerk told me that they were steady sellers.
Mikey preferred a much lower-tech method: he just planted cholla cactus right in front of most of the windows of his house. The variety he planted have NASTY barbed spines and are a bitch to get out of your skin if you get stuck. Hope his house never catches on fire such that he needs to get out through a window.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylindropuntia
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:50 pm
Doomy’s house casino has set the daily odds of the over/under on drudgeyspam at 10 1/2 for the day. The over under on the following kamspams are as follows- there’s your sign at 8 1/2, smoking gun in the mushroom cloud at 3 1/2. The numbers are low because the repetitive post bunny got off to a slow start today.
For wiring instructions, payouts, and bonuses send funds to Doomy’s 2 offshore accounts. Like Romney and tens of millions of Americans who have mutual funds invested in foreign stocks Doomy is un American by having offshore accounts or monies invested overseas. KD Unlike Romney Doomy just has chicken change under $1,000 in his 2 offshore accounts.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:50 pm
Drudge does have links from all over. I grant him that.
His incendiary head lines that many times do not really meet the jest of the story he is linking is nothing more than raw meat for his followers
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:50 pm
“What is wrong with that?”
Nothing, if it was true.
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
1:51 pm
SeeBS rawks, dudes!
the cat
January 9th, 2013
1:51 pm
td must have gotten a subscription to drudge for christmas
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:51 pm
drudgey is where the cons read the news.
Most of it turns out to be bs.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:51 pm
td
Just calling out your bs. If you can’t handle it. Take it up with the AJC and Bookman.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
1:52 pm
“Drudge is a media outlet that allows the reader to come and take a quick glance at what other conservative news reporting agencies think is important on any given day. He also does a good job of reporting any conservative stories from lib outlets. What is wrong with that?”
It is a pure news aggregation site, but it leans conservative, is very influential and runs counter to the liberal “narrative” you find in a lot of other media sites. So it is hated and belittled by many liberals. It is viewed perhaps in the same way conservative talk shows have been viewed.
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
1:52 pm
I’ll check out Drudge just to see the headline pictures.
Hilarious!
td
January 9th, 2013
1:53 pm
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:46 pm
“When the VP talks about the President is considering executive order for gun control then it is very appropriate for the thought of Hitler and Stalin to be shown.”
Do you think President Obama will take your guns con?
If he thought he could get away with it then yes he would. He is already talking about wanting one of my guns and few of my magazines.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
1:54 pm
td — “Drudge is a media outlet that allows the reader to come and take a quick glance at what other conservative news reporting agencies think is important on any given day.”
In other words, he’s an aggregator. I’m pretty sure I said that already.
“He also does a good job of reporting any conservative stories from lib outlets.”
Again, aggregator.
“What is wrong with that?”
Y’all cite Drudge, but none of the reporting is *his.* Consequently, you’re not giving credit to the actual *source* of the story.
There’s a big difference in a story from, say, Newsweek and the same story from ArtBell.com or Carnicom or chemtrails.com or one of the REAL wingnut space-alien sites like that.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:55 pm
Joe mama,
Well its another rare day of agreement between you and I. We’ll have to find something to argue about sooner or later.
That’s freaking hilarious about your buddy with the cholly cactus. I love that idea. I may have to check into that for my mom. She loves cactuses anyway and I’ve bought her cactuses before. Would love to see the look on a burglar’s fact after immersing himself in cactus spines.
Thomas
January 9th, 2013
1:56 pm
Blogs should be first be severly taxed and then outlawed. Blogs lead to one person picking on the other which leads to depression, anxiety, and physical violence. If you care at all about your family and fellow Americans you call your local Congressman/woman and say blogs should be outlawed.
If you don’t do this you are definitely and uncaring person.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
1:56 pm
I guess that weapons aficionado up in NE Georgia shoulda learned about helmets too.
td
January 9th, 2013
1:57 pm
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:51 pm
td
Just calling out your bs. If you can’t handle it. Take it up with the AJC and Bookman.
Bookman and the AJC does not have a problem with you being on the down low and stalking people on the blogs. If I was a women then they would stop your stalking but that is because they are a lib rag.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
1:58 pm
Where in the constitution does it say anyone has the right to own a gun anyway ?
The one Ive read says right to bear ARMS. Doesn’t say anything about guns.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:58 pm
“There’s a big difference in a story from, say, Newsweek and the same story from ArtBell.com or Carnicom or chemtrails.com or one of the REAL wingnut space-alien sites like that.”
Joe Mama,
Careful. You’re liable to up and offend Soothsayer with that comment about space-alien sites.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:59 pm
blah, blah, blah
Is that all you do?
Getting mad and crying about your bs and lies being called out is your problem, not mine.
have a tissue
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
1:59 pm
The obsession continues.
Pavlovian….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFx-5PGLgb4
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
2:01 pm
Once again – http://calibergroup.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/canspamgraphic.jpg
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:01 pm
I’m going to have to check out this drudge site and see what the hell all the hubub is about. If it drives the libs nuts its gotta be good.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
2:01 pm
Ah…I see the cause for all of the discussion about the Drudge site. Drudge’s headlines are not infrequently like those found in tabloids (and a number of left-leaning sites as well, to be fair). You kind of have to ignore them. Plus, I think Drudge’s influence is such that people like Obama who want to possibly abuse his office that he can make Obama think long and hard about doing so. Two executive orders have been stuck down by the courts and it is hard to think what Obama could do about guns via an executive order without a court challenge. It is really a dumb idea, IMO.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:03 pm
dB
The first comment on the MMA linkie:
Again, Sinclair Lewis, in America, “Fascism will come wrapped in a flag carrying a bible” he just forgot to include the Bushmaster…
Heh, heh, heh.
td
January 9th, 2013
2:03 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
1:54 pm
Thanks for the big ole belly laugh. “Aggregator” for any story or site that puts together Conservative sources of the news and an omission of what you think of those leftest outlets that are 10 times more numerous then drudge. I guess you consider the NY Time and WaPost as truly accurate reports of the “real” news.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:03 pm
Thulsa: Leave it to Jon Stewart to not only mislead people but to pull a godwin’s law all in one statement.
That means you didn’t watch the segment.
He showed several clips of people mentioning Hitler and Stalin to PROVE that everyone is going to have their guns taken away. Because history proves dictators always follow gun control, or something.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:04 pm
td: lame stream media
DRINK!!!
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
2:04 pm
Hey Kam,
Do the SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS read Drudge?
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:04 pm
“The one Ive read says right to bear ARMS. Doesn’t say anything about guns.”- cheesy grits.
WOW!!!! You can’t make this stuff up. Hot damn now THAT is fun-knee.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
2:05 pm
Doom — “That’s freaking hilarious about your buddy with the cholly cactus. I love that idea. I may have to check into that for my mom. She loves cactuses anyway and I’ve bought her cactuses before. Would love to see the look on a burglar’s fact after immersing himself in cactus spines.”
Mikey is a professional commercial artist (working mostly on advertising), so he’s got a lot of expensive computer equipment in his house, plus a lot of artwork and movie memorabilia (he owns the iron bar that Ah-nuld used to beat the snot out of the T-1000 in Terminator 2 — it’s actually made of wood). Some people out there put up bars on their windows, but artist Mikey just couldn’t bring himself to do that. One of his co-workers suggested planting cactus, and after a little research, he settled on cholla.
He uses his patio as an outdoor workshop, and he built a wall around it. He thought about cementing broken glass chunks at the top of the wall as a nasty surprise for any burglars trying to get in that way, but he figured if any neighbor kids got hurt going over the wall to get an errant baseball or Frisbee, he might get sued.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:06 pm
dbm: Government should not be in the business of being pro- or anti- anyone or anything, except pro individual rights and anti direct or indirect physical aggression.
How about pro public safety? Or are you against speed limits, restrictions that limit the possibility someone will drive drunk, and not being able to yell “fire” in a crowded theater?
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:07 pm
td: If he thought he could get away with it then yes he would. He is already talking about wanting one of my guns and few of my magazines.
He is talking about restricting FUTURE acquirement, dude.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:07 pm
“That means you didn’t watch the segment”
No. I didn’t. Why would I watch an assclown like Jon Stewart. He’s not news. He’s just kook left tripe.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
2:07 pm
“The one Ive read says right to bear ARMS. Doesn’t say anything about guns.”
Yes. And sadly, the verb was misspelled and the error was never corrected. It should be “bare” arms.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
2:07 pm
It is a war on conservative women…
Serves the sluts, prostitutes and FemiNazis right. You’ve done a damn poor job of keeping them in line, willie.
I can’t even begin to count the millions of babies that Republican women have murdered.
And td wants to execute them.
Right after he is done hanging John Kerry…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:07 pm
Do the SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS read Drudge?
I dunno.
Why don’t you ask them yourself?
http://www.scv.org/contactInfo.php
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
2:07 pm
Doom — “Careful. You’re liable to up and offend Soothsayer with that comment about space-alien sites.”
Man, my wife was all over those sites in the runup to Y2K. You wouldn’t believe some of the crazy crap some of those people believed.
Like that reptilian alien shapechangers had already infitrated Earth governments and were waiting for the Y2K disaster to strike so that they could unmask and take control.
I am NOT making this up.
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
2:08 pm
“The one Ive read says right to bear ARMS. Doesn’t say anything about guns.”
LOL,
I guess cheesy has the right to roll up his sleeves.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:08 pm
More on this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/judge-h-lee-sarokin/gun-owners-are-coming-to-_b_2425320.html
Gun Owners Are Coming To Take Away Our Free Speech Rights
Maybe reconsideration should be given to designating this as public information or thought be given to restricting its publication in a reasonable and sensible way. Maybe those who oppose publication are not intent on destroying all rights of free speech, just in the same way persons who want to restrict and regulate semi-automatic weapons, huge ammunition magazines and gun shows are not necessarily intent on confiscating all guns. Free speech certainly does less harm than guns. Shouldn’t both be susceptible to some sensible and reasonable regulation in the public interest? Encroachment, limitations or regulations of any constitutional right should be done with great caution and only for compelling reasons, but if the First Amendment should yield a little to reason — should not the Second as well?
OH MY GOD CONFISCATIONNNNN!
DebbieDoRight - When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
2:10 pm
DAnnyX: This war is tragic. Just last month i heard someone forced some birth control down Bristol Palin’s throat.
Oooo good one!
==============
ALL — The lady who shot the intruder did NOT shoot him with an assault weapon.
Please try to liken apples to apples when you make comments — it helps with clarity. Thanks!
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
2:11 pm
td — “Thanks for the big ole belly laugh. “Aggregator” for any story or site that puts together Conservative sources of the news and an omission of what you think of those leftest outlets that are 10 times more numerous then drudge.”
I didn’t omit them, punkin. You simply didn’t ASK about them. (laughing, pointing)
FWIW, I don’t have a charitable view of *any* aggregator, conservative or liberal. But I suppose since I didn’t rush to denounce them, that means — in your mind — that I must sleep with those site operators and bring them babies to cook and eat.
“I guess you consider the NY Time and WaPost as truly accurate reports of the “real” news.”
They do their own reporting, as do the Arizona Republic and the Washington Times. That alone makes them all superior to Drudge.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:11 pm
Obama is either the Messiah or Hitler. It depends on the issue.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 9th, 2013
2:12 pm
Deterrance does work in my view. Its just common sense imo. If you know that someone is armed you’re not going to go there.
Dang straight! I recall the first time the Rev. Jim Bob Buice came to the trailer to see me. I me him outside and was bragging a little about how Simpsons Trailer Park had the lowest crime rate in the county. The Rev. eyed my place and said, “If I was a burglar this is the last place in the world I’d try to steal anything from.”
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
2:12 pm
“Shouldn’t both be susceptible to some sensible and reasonable regulation in the public interest? Encroachment, limitations or regulations of any constitutional right should be done with great caution and only for compelling reasons, but if the First Amendment should yield a little to reason — should not the Second as well?”
I have said as much. Let’s start with pornography and public profanity. Then talk to me about guns.
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
2:12 pm
The sanctimonious Left is trying to frame the gun debate into sportsman activity. They refer to this that or the other gun as not something with which one would use to hunt. Obama in campaigning has stated he won’t take guns from hunters. What BS.
The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting.
The 2nd is about citizens having the right to arm themselves for protection and to defend the nation. That would include threats from within as when Progressives try to take the guns.
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
2:13 pm
“ALL — The lady who shot the intruder did NOT shoot him with an assault weapon.”
Too bad she didn’t.
Didn’t he survive after being shot several times in the face and neck?
I’m sure the guy will have a couple of years in prison to think about seeking some revenge…
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
2:14 pm
Cons have the right, per the constitution, to bear muskets. They can even be equipped with 100-round musket ball magazines.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
2:15 pm
“The one Ive read says right to bear ARMS. Doesn’t say anything about guns”
Bare arms? All my shirts are long-sleeved…
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
2:15 pm
Dang, mbetty, you beat me again.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:16 pm
Shorter JohhnyReb: <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087985/"WOLVERINES!
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
2:16 pm
The constitution does say right to bear arms. No mention of guns however.
Where does my right to bear “arms” end ?
A bazooka ? A bomb ? A nuclear weapon ?
At the time it was written at best a crack shot could get off three rounds a minute.
THREE
Its not even relevant to today.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
2:16 pm
“The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting. The 2nd is about citizens having the right to arm themselves for protection and to defend the nation. That would include threats from within as when Progressives try to take the guns.”
Yeah, well I have heard a law professor say that the majority of law schools do not require study of the Constitution itself in constitutional law specialties (perhaps that is why Obama has publicly confused it with the DoI). You don’t have to have a JD to see the truth of what you are saying, JR.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:17 pm
Oops
WOLVERINES!
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:18 pm
Joe mama,
That bar used in the terminator would be a great conversation piece.
I thought about something like little spikes or nails planted in wood and covered up by something like pine straw. But like you said someone’s kid or dog or whatever could get hurt going after an errant ball and a suit then be incurred. Plus I would rather lose my property than have a kid or dog get hurt. Its just crap that I can replace.
Interesting story. I saw a news report years back about some poor business owner who owned a store in Overtown/Liberty City in Miami. The guy had had his business burglarized something crazy like 8 times in 6 months. He was an old grunt in Nam and had set up a booby trap and the burglar got all messed up. The guy got sued of course and the burglar won I think. On top of that his complaint was that as a black bidness man in a bad part of town he got very late response times from the police on the burglaries and so the burglars were never getting caught in spite of an alarm system that would go off. The guy just couldn’t win.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
2:21 pm
The 2nd is about citizens having the right to arm themselves for protection and to defend the nation.
Laughable
We have a well funded military for that.
Bottom line you are much much safer statistically with no guns in your house than with one.
Guess which homes have most of the gun violence and gun related fatalities.
The ones with guns in them.
If guns made you safer America would be the safest place on the planet.
It isnt.
Its the guns stupid.
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
2:23 pm
Cheesy Grits “Where does my right to bear “arms” end ?”
I think Taxpayer came up with the solution at 2:14.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:23 pm
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
2:16 pm
“The constitution does say right to bear arms. No mention of guns however.
Where does my right to bear “arms” end ?
A bazooka ? A bomb ? A nuclear weapon ?”
Well cheesy grits. What do you think the framers were talking about? There weren’t any nukes back then. No bazookas. Not sure but I don’t think shrapnel exploding ordnance had yet been invented by then. Stinger missiles weren’t around. Pistols and rifles were. So just what the hell kinda arms do you think they were talking about? Jeez. God help us from people like cheesy.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:24 pm
Towncrier: I have said as much. Let’s start with pornography and public profanity. Then talk to me about guns.
And what do pornography and public profanity have to do with public safety?
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
2:25 pm
What do you think the framers were talking about?
A sword or a gun capable of firing at best 2 or 3 rounds a minute.
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
2:25 pm
“Its the guns stupid.”
We need to get rid of those Red Ryders before they put anymore kid’s eyes out!
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
2:26 pm
“Its the guns stupid.”
Another example, ladies and gentlemen of the Left trying to excuse the absence of personal responsibility by blaming violence on an inantimate object.
I’m not sure of the exact statistics, but there are many more deaths each year from a variety of human operated objects than guns. Does the Left intend to ban all of them? Will they start with automobiles, or is that something they “like” and see as a benefit to themselves?
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:26 pm
JohnnyReb: The 2nd is about citizens having the right to arm themselves for protection and to defend the nation.
Correct. In a well regulated militia, no less.
That would include threats from within as when Progressives try to take the guns.
NOT Correct. It is for foreign invasion purposes. Not to defy your representative government.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
2:26 pm
“Well cheesy grits. What do you think the framers were talking about? There weren’t any nukes back then. No bazookas. Not sure but I don’t think shrapnel exploding ordnance had yet been invented by then. Stinger missiles weren’t around. Pistols and rifles were. So just what the hell kinda arms do you think they were talking about? Jeez. God help us from people like cheesy.”
Mr Doom agrees: the secodn amendment gives us the right to keep and bear musketry. No handguns except flintlocks, right?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:27 pm
I’m not sure of the statistics, but there is a possibility that I will be the starting quarterback in the Superbowl.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
2:27 pm
Nothing can be done that is practical to prevent another school shooting….can’t take away guns, can’t stop bullet manufacturing, mental health options won’t work, and more restrictive gun permits will not work..we know from first hand experience that armed school guards don’t work..
No such thing as high-velocity culture change…Politicians just need to be seen trying to do something to cover their butts and will likely pass something but I can’t see that preventing further obscene incidents..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
2:28 pm
Actually the Heller decision addressed the stupidity of the “tyranny” claim in dictum. While acknowledging the so-called “tyranny” justification the opinion noted that there is nothing in the 2d amendment that says that the govt has to allow “equality” in weaponry. In simple terms, a musket would suffice to meet that “tyranny” justification.
Frankly anyone who supports the “tyranny” justification is just crazy and should not be allowed to own a gun given the mental conditions.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
2:29 pm
Will they start with automobiles, or is that something they “like” and see as a benefit to themselves?
An automobile has a purpose OTHER than killing someone.
A gun doesn’t.
I know that logic will be lost on you.
Its the guns stupid.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:29 pm
Didn’t he survive after being shot several times in the face and neck?
I’m sure the guy will have a couple of years in prison to think about seeking some revenge…
Yes because the only way to deal with a threat is to make sure that f****r is STONE COLD DEAD
YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!
OR, you could have disabled an attacker and made sure he paid for the crime he committed in the justice system ALSO set up by our Founding Fathers so that there wouldn’t be vigilante justice….
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:29 pm
I’m not sure of the exact statistics, but I believe that Morgan Fairchild will indeed show up for our date tonight.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:30 pm
Frankly anyone who supports the “tyranny” justification is just crazy and should not be allowed to own a gun given the mental conditions.
100% agreed. In all seriousness
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
2:30 pm
Wow Kam, does your girlfriend, Ms. Alabama, approve?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
2:30 pm
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
2:26 pm
Doesn’t matter a bit. Like taking away guns is realistic.
Perhaps improving technology for perimeter security systems…many options there but there are still malls, movie theatres, sports events…
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:31 pm
Frankly anyone who supports the “tyranny” justification is just crazy and should not be allowed to own a gun given the mental conditions.
OR:
Their paranoid fear of a possible dystopic future prevents us from addressing our ACTUAL dystopic present. We can’t even begin to address 30,000 gun deaths that are actually, in reality, happening in this country every year because a few of us must remain vigilant against the rise of Imaginary Hitler.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
2:31 pm
Well if Drudge is trying to counter the “mainstream/liberal/leftist media” they aren’t doing a good job. Since conservatives love to play the “Fox News is kicking your butt” game, lets play a little “the mainstream/liberal/leftist media is kicking your butt on the internet.
Alexa Top 25 US news sites. Websites with a perceived liberal bias and conservative bias.
2 CNN
3 Huff Post
5 BBC America
6 NY Times
9 Fox News
10 MSNBC (NBC News)
11 The Guardian
15 WSJ
17 Washington Post
19 ABC News
21 Drudge
25 LA Times
The conservative media is getting clobbered on the internet! 9 ‘liberal’ sites, only 3 ‘conservative’ sites.
http://www.alexa.com/topsites/category/Top/News
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
2:32 pm
LETS GET RID OF CARS
more people die from car wrecks than guns
they are just dangerous
everyone should ride bikes and high speed rail
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
2:33 pm
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:30 pm
I hear you and couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately, one mans crazy is another mans sanity…state of art in mental medicine can in no way separate all the crazies from the not so crazies…the smart crazies will subterfuge any measurement system. Big picture, we’d have to go thru years and years of court cases to agree on definition of crazy..even then, if you want a gun, you can find one..
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
2:35 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
2:32 pm
Can you dig a little further to prove that comparing guns to cars has any merit?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:35 pm
Keep
Well if she didn’t before, she does now.
Jm
January 9th, 2013
2:35 pm
“everyone should ride bikes and high speed rail”
that would be bad news for fat peeps
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
2:37 pm
“everyone should ride bikes and high speed rail”
There you go getting them started on something else. It won’t be ten posts before a Leftie complains there are no high speed rails and everyone should be contributing their hard earned wages to build them.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
2:38 pm
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
2:31 pm
That’s what I see as well…but don’t try to make that argument here…FOXNEWSFOXNEWSFOXNEWS….RUSHRUSHRUSH…you’d think those two dimwitted outlets got 80% of the viewership..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
2:38 pm
Yep people die in car wrecks. We regulate speeds, roadway designs, require safety equipment, regulate truck weights, forbid texting while driving, license drivers, have traffic courts, road signals and more.
But…but….guns. Can’t do anything there.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
2:39 pm
1) ban assault weapons
2) ban high capacity magazines
3) mandate that all gun owners take mental and firearms competency tests.
And yes I would be prepared to pry them from their cold dead hands if that is how they wanted to play it…
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:39 pm
The 2nd is about citizens having the right to arm themselves for protection and to defend the nation.
“Laughable
We have a well funded military for that.”- Cheesy grits
Roger that since its the military that protects our neighborhoods.Matter of fact I got a battalion of Rangers standing guard right outside my front door. And a carrier battle group is stationed in my swimming pool. The Air Force has some fighter jets stationed in the back yard.
“Bottom line you are much much safer statistically with no guns in your house than with one.”
Really? Cheesy grits can prove that empirically?
“If guns made you safer America would be the safest place on the planet.
It isnt.”
Maybe not but its one of the safest places on the planet. Certainly much safer than places like Mexico or Russia or most of the 3rd world.
“Its the guns stupid.”- cheesy
No. It would be the people that actually use the guns in a criminal manner dum dum.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
2:39 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year
http://www.quandl.com/society/us-violent-crime#Gun-Related+Statistics,+Current
stop the madness and put GM, Chrysler and Ford out of business………. they are killing our children in the name of union profits
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
2:40 pm
Stevie Ray – the very legislators who are trying to take guns from citizens enjoy the protection of armed guards but publicly state providing armed protection at schools to be ridiculous. Where will the money come from to do that, they state? Yet, they are eager to transfer our wealth to other countries under the carbon credits lie.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 9th, 2013
2:41 pm
The courts have apparently figured out WalMart’s super sneaky strategy of domestic outsourcing (contracting out parts its U.S.-based supply chain to other companies to skirt responsibility for labor infractions), which could produce a host of legal troubles for the nation’s largest company.
A federal judge has ruled that WalMart can be included in the impending warehouse workers’ class-action lawsuit about a plethora of alleged labor abuses, which occurred in a WalMart warehouse in Southern California.
alternet.org
Huzzah!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
2:42 pm
Yet, they are eager to transfer our wealth to other countries under the carbon credits lie
Die New World Order! Wolverines!
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:42 pm
“The conservative media is getting clobbered on the internet! 9 ‘liberal’ sites, only 3 ‘conservative’ sites.”- Danny X
Good. I take it that means the kooks can quit their incessant whining about Fox news.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 9th, 2013
2:43 pm
trying to take guns from citizens
No one is trying to take guns from citizens. Wake up, people.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 9th, 2013
2:43 pm
I’m not sure of the exact statistics, but I believe that Morgan Fairchild will indeed show up for our date tonight.
You wouldn’t know what to do with Morgan Fairchild if you woke up and she was buck-nekkid in your bed, you old NC mountain fa-t. I hate bragging.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
2:44 pm
“It won’t be ten posts before a Leftie complains there are no high speed rails and everyone should be contributing their hard earned wages to build them.”
You think Uncle Samantha is a “Leftie”?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:44 pm
No one is trying to take guns from citizens.
That’s not what drudgey says.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
2:45 pm
Doom — “Really? Cheesy grits can prove that empirically?”
Maybe.
Actuaries might actually track that sort of thing. Maybe some insurance companies have rate adjustments tied to whether or not you keep a firearm in the house.
That said, I doubt any insurers would release that data if they had it. From what I understand, insurers tend to be kind of protective and suspicious when it comes to things like proprietary actuarial data and experience tables. But it’s *possible* that one or more insurers actually *could* prove that one way or the other.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
2:45 pm
Letr’s get rid of old age. More people die of old age than just about anything, except guns.
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
2:45 pm
Personallly, I prefer Miss Alabama to Morgan. Plus by now, Morgan is likely to have creases in the wrong places.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:45 pm
You wouldn’t know what to do with Morgan Fairchild if you woke up and she was buck-nekkid in your bed, you old NC mountain fa-t.
What’s not to understand?
Insert tab A into slot B….
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
2:47 pm
“No one is trying to take guns from citizens.”
Yes they are. Registration is one step away from confiscation. If Obama and the whacky idiot broad from California had their way, everyone would have to give up their guns.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
2:47 pm
Kam, most of your fan club already had Head inserted in slot C, so they need directions to find slot B.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
2:48 pm
Fox News is nothing without Karl Rove and their unskewed data.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
2:49 pm
Insert tab A into slot B….
Either I’m easily amused or that is pretty damn funny…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:49 pm
Keep
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
2:50 pm
Registration is one step away from confiscation.
Reb, you are damn lucky that there is no daily quota for allowable idiotic claims…
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
2:50 pm
“YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!
OR, you could have disabled an attacker and made sure he paid for the crime he committed in the justice system ALSO set up by our Founding Fathers so that there wouldn’t be vigilante justice….”
Adam,
This isn’t vigilante justice. This is an intruder inside your home. An intruder who is most likely armed, placing you and your family at their mercy if you don’t have the means to defend them.
Now, if you want to place your hands behind your head and lay face down on the floor and hope they will go away peacefully, that is your business.
Personally, I don’t have that much faith in scum bags who enter other’s homes without permission.
So if you want to make some YeeHaw comment, go right ahead, but chances are you would be the one getting taken advantage of, not me.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
2:51 pm
Cons reply to new knowledge obtained from Kam:
Oooohhhhh! So that’s Slot B!
Oooohhhhh! So THAT Head is Tab A!
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:53 pm
Joe mama,
In terms of pure deaths I’m sure he’s right because of gun suicides and gun violence between family members/friends in the home and also gun accidents where kids get into guns. Of that I have no doubt. Perhaps I should have stated that you’re statistically better off in terms of protection against a burglar or home invader by having a gun in the house.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
2:53 pm
“Registration is one step away from confiscation”
Then we’re a lot closer to having our cars taken away than our guns, right, JReb?
Holy Cow
January 9th, 2013
2:54 pm
When are they coming to confiscate our cars?
I highly doubt many of us have too many cars that re not registered.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
2:55 pm
Republican birth control, or at least one more form.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:56 pm
YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!
“OR, you could have disabled an attacker and made sure he paid for the crime he committed in the justice system ALSO set up by our Founding Fathers so that there wouldn’t be vigilante justice….”
Seems to me the lady did largely disable him with 5 shots to the face.
Holy Cow
January 9th, 2013
2:56 pm
Might not want to let your kids leave the house under any circumstances..
If they have been registered for school, it is only a matter of time before “they” come take them away.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
2:58 pm
And the liberal hits keep on coming:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/01/09/MSNBC-Analyst-Dyson-Obama-Facing-Negrophobia-From-Republicans
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:58 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA: LETS GET RID OF CARS
Your non-argument is addressed here:
“[Do we ban cars] because people get drunk and kill people in cars?”
Jon Stewart: “No, but we do enact stricter blood alcohol limits, raise the drinking age, ramp up enforcement and penalties, and charge bartenders who server drunks and launch huge public awareness campaigns to stigmatize the dangerous behavior in question and we do all those things because it MIGHT just help bring drunk driving rates down, I don’t know, by two thirds in a few decades!”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:59 pm
When a couple gets a wedding license, does that mean the gov’t will confiscate the bride?
the cat
January 9th, 2013
2:59 pm
Why does the NRA get to send their mailings and membership cards postage paid free as a non-profit?
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
2:59 pm
And coming:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/01/09/He%20Fight%20Negros-African-American-Morning-Show-DJ-Compares-Redskins-Coach-to-Django-Salve-Owner
getalife
January 9th, 2013
3:00 pm
You cons are hilarious.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:01 pm
moonbat betty: This isn’t vigilante justice. This is an intruder inside your home. An intruder who is most likely armed, placing you and your family at their mercy if you don’t have the means to defend them.
AND you still have the choice whether to effectively incapacitate them, but leave them alive, OR to kill them, and claim you had no other choice.
THAT is the point I was making.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 9th, 2013
3:01 pm
“Executive Order Possible on Guns”
“Biden talked also about taking responsible action. “As the president said, if you’re actions result in only saving one life, they’re worth taking.”
Ah …………………. I would agree Mr. V.P. “if” (”IF”) it’s Constitutional.
By the way, Mr. V.P., how about those computer chip governors for vehicles to restrict a top speed to 65 mph? Think of the “THOUSANDS” of lives that would save especiall involving DUI’s !!!
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
3:01 pm
A friend sent me a photo of Barry and Muuchelle walking down Penn Ave surrounded by no less than 11 gun toting guards either walking and riding. And, you can bet some automatic – note automatic, not semi-automatic – weapons are either under their overcoats and/or in the cars.
Seems the Left is OK with armed guards around Barry, but not for school children. Pathetic their thought process.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:01 pm
IOW, if you kill an intruder in your home when you didn’t HAVE to in order to stop the threat, that’s vigilante justice. Even if the court still won’t lock you up for it.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
3:02 pm
And we wonder why our educational system is in the tank (and has been for decades):
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/south-carolina-teacher-on-leave-for-stomping-on-american-flag-in-front-of-class/
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:03 pm
Scout: By the way, Mr. V.P., how about those computer chip governors for vehicles to restrict a top speed to 65 mph? Think of the “THOUSANDS” of lives that would save especiall involving DUI’s !!!
That’s not a bad opening bid. I recommend a chip that will make sure your car can’t drive over whatever the posted speed limit is. Sounds like a good idea to me.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:03 pm
And we wonder why our educational system is in the tank (and has been for decades):
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/south-carolina-teacher-on-leave-for-stomping-on-american-flag-in-front-of-class/
Damn, what an idiot.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
3:04 pm
Here come the Orwellians:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/iowa-lawmaker-calls-for-retroactive-gun-bans-confiscations-of-semi-automatic-weapons/
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
3:05 pm
“And, you can bet some automatic – note automatic, not semi-automatic – weapons are either under their overcoats and/or in the cars.”
And you can bet I will set a record for passing yardage in the playoffs this weekend.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
3:05 pm
Who is Muuchelle? Is that person a new nominee or old college friend?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
3:07 pm
A friend sent me a photo of…
My girlfriend’s hairdresser’s husband has an uncle that used to work with a guy that knows someone who sent me a picture of Alex Morgan
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:07 pm
Yet, they are eager to transfer our wealth to other countries under the carbon credits lie
======================================================================
its called ANTI-COLONIALISM and Obama is the premier leader of this movement
and its the reason that CHINA AND INDIA have told the LEFTIES of the WEST to shove it
they will not transfer the wealth they are building to other countries that aren’t growing like them
THE IRONY
China and India consider the LEFTIES of the WEST to be Colonial powers trying to confiscate wealth from the high growth countries to keep them powerless
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
3:07 pm
I prefer Miss South Carolina, just because she took a little of the “What did that crazy Georgia Republican say?” attention away from us for a few brief minutes.
“I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps and, uh, I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over HERE in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future, for our children.”
(Btw, Morgan Fairchild, LOL Redneck.)
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
3:08 pm
About that debt:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/337215/fiscal-facts-life-michael-tanner
dbm
January 9th, 2013
3:09 pm
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:06 pm
Driving drunk physically endangers people and is therefore a physical aggression.
Shouting a false warning that could cause a panic physically endangers people and is therefore a physical aggression.
One complication in questions relating to driving is that currently government owns most streets and roads, but they should be privately owned.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
3:10 pm
“And we wonder why our educational system is in the tank (and has been for decades):”
Gosh Towncrier, why does everyone have to be so politically correct?
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:12 pm
HEY LEFTIES
I’VE GOT YOUR CARBON EMISSIONS RIGHT HERE
READ THIS AND WEEP…………. I MEAN CRY FOR JOY……….. WE HAVE SOLVED OUR CARBON PROBLEMS HERE IN THE US
The Associated Press reports that new data from the Energy Information Administration shows that U.S. emissions of carbon dioxide emissions are back down to their 1992 levels:
In a surprising turnaround, the amount of carbon dioxide being released into the atmosphere in the U.S. has fallen dramatically to its lowest level in 20 years, and government officials say the biggest reason is that cheap and plentiful natural gas has led many power plant operators to switch from dirtier-burning coal.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
3:13 pm
“AND you still have the choice whether to effectively incapacitate them, but leave them alive, OR to kill them, and claim you had no other choice.”- Adam
Do you have any idea just how ridiculous you sound?
Jesus H. Christ. This isn’t Rambo or a professional marksman or sniper. This is a frightened lady hiding with her kids in a crawlspace hoping the home invader won’t find them. He agressively searched them out and he did find them. And this frightened little lady unloaded out of fear for herself and her children.
And here you are talking some silly ass liberal theoretical world gobbledeegook nonsense about how she should had a choice to “incapacitate” him. God help us from this sheer idiocy.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
3:14 pm
Great news, Uncle Samantha! Thanks for sharing! That’s a good first step.
td
January 9th, 2013
3:14 pm
Yes, our founding fathers were “right wing kooks” because they believed that tyranny of the elected is a threat to this nation and because they believed Americans should have guns for self defense purposes.
“Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense.” John Admas
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” Thomas Jefferson
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun.” Patrick Henry:
Notice here that Henry is talking about our Liberties guaranteed by the Constitution and the only people that could take these liberties away would be the government.
One final thought for you to consider with George Washington’s address to Congress:
“Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty, teeth and keystone under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie wagon and citizens’ firearms are indelibly related. From the hour the pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurrences and tendencies prove that, to ensure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable. Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 and 99/100 percent of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil influence. They deserve a place of honor with all that’s good. When firearms go, all goes. We need them every hour”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
3:15 pm
READ THIS AND WEEP…
NO!
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
3:16 pm
Cons don’t even like Cubans.
td
January 9th, 2013
3:16 pm
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
3:13 pm
And God forbid if there would have been more then one attacker in this situation because she was out of bullets with that little revolver and only six shots.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
3:16 pm
WE HAVE SOLVED OUR CARBON PROBLEMS HERE IN THE US
We?
Republicans do not solve problems.
They do everything in their power to pretend that they don’t even exist.
The NRA is not the solution to our problem. The NRA is the problem. ~The ghost of Ronnie “Union thug” Raygun
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
3:17 pm
“About that debt:”
Gosh Towncrier, just yesterday you were telling everyone not to post links to partisan websites.
Granny Godzilla
January 9th, 2013
3:19 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/09/keith-ratliff-fpsrussia-dead_n_2439284.html
Live by the sword……
Condolences to his family.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:20 pm
dbm: currently government owns most streets and roads, but they should be privately owned.
Oh HELLLLLL no.
We tried that, a few times. Can you say $18 tolls?
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:21 pm
Thulsa: This is a frightened lady hiding with her kids in a crawlspace hoping the home invader won’t find them. He agressively searched them out and he did find them. And this frightened little lady unloaded out of fear for herself and her children.
And instead of a killing weapon she had a weapon that was just as effective in targeting and contact that disabled said attacker (say some advanced futuristic tazer or cattle rod), then she would not have had to fire bullets into him.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:22 pm
Thulsa: You REALLY can’t think outside your little box, can you?
That’s why *I* make the big bucks where *I* work. What about you?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
3:22 pm
Ratliff was known as an outspoken gun advocate. In a message posted to Twitter on Aug 11, 2012, he wrote: “I went to the movies with my pistol in my pocket the whole time I was praying that somebody would try to pull a Batman!”
Wow!
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
3:24 pm
“Live by the sword……”
“I went to the movies with my pistol in my pocket the whole time I was praying that somebody would try to pull a Batman!”- Keith Ratliff
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:24 pm
td: “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” Thomas Jefferson
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”-Unproven! This quote was not found in the Jeffersonian Cyclopedia but several websites have attributed this to Jefferson.
OR, as many have done before me:
“The problem with td is that he doesn’t know what the f*** he’s talking about” – Thomas Jefferson
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
3:25 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:12 pm
Oddly since 1995, the temperatures have been flat…
Interesting stuff here for the open minded..
http://fabiusmaximus.com/2012/02/03/34885/
the cat
January 9th, 2013
3:25 pm
Adam-diet coke out of nose. snort
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:26 pm
Re: Ratliff: Like I said, having a gun is not a deterrent, which is what broguht up Thulsa’s claim that a man who already was invading a home was “deterred” by getting shot, showing he didn’t understand the term “deterrent.”
Dharma Bum
January 9th, 2013
3:26 pm
This is off-topic, but if there are still people that haven’t seen the Alex Jones gun control meltdown with Piers Morgan, here it is for your viewing pleasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XZvMwcluEg
Dim the lights, pop a bag of popcorn, and watch the hilarity… this guy is a few fries short of a Happy Meal.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:26 pm
LOL thanks cat
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:27 pm
said JAMVET as he is licking Matt Damon’s boots trying to stop the natural gas boom which is causing the drop in US carbon emissions…………. then put us back on coal and gas so we dump more carbon into the atmosphere
how does that logic work?
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:28 pm
Dharma: No thanks, seen it enough.
I guess it doesn’t occur to the rabid that if they get their wish and “defend” themselves against the government that they will all die.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
3:29 pm
“And what do pornography and public profanity have to do with public safety?”
Well, since you are so keen on correlations (as with recent global warming and the advent of the industrial revolution), why don’t you explain the correlation between the rise of violent sex crimes and the repeal of obscenity laws beginning in the 60s?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
3:29 pm
showing he didn’t understand the term “deterrent.”
Unskewed deterrence.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
3:29 pm
Dharma
Check out his website “Infowars”.
It has all the latest NWO and black helicopter conspiracies just waiting for you to read.
There are a few on this blog that post from his site from time to time.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
3:32 pm
“said JAMVET as he is licking Matt Damon’s boots trying to stop the natural gas boom which is causing the drop in US carbon emissions…………. then put us back on coal and gas so we dump more carbon into the atmosphere’
Ah, you DO realize you make no sense, right?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
3:32 pm
JAMVET
None of this will have an impact. First, a ban on assault weapons will be such a long process to iron out that anyone who want’s one will have one prior to any attempt to enforce. Same thing with magazines. Who will define mental illness? Does that mean someone with bi-polar can’t but someone with ADHD can? No way a means can be developed to determine which diagnoses apply and how exactly to measure same…
Unfortunately, cat is too far out of the bag..
1) ban assault weapons
2) ban high capacity magazines
3) mandate that all gun owners take mental and firearms competency tests.
td
January 9th, 2013
3:33 pm
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:24 pm
OK, I look up the quote and it does appear to be a bogus quote and I stand corrected on this one.
““The problem with td is that he doesn’t know what the f*** he’s talking about” – Thomas Jefferson”
Now this is coming form a person that thinks man made global warming is proven science beyond any doubt. LOL
Bob
January 9th, 2013
3:34 pm
“Jacob J. Lew, President Obama’s presumed choice to lead the Treasury Department, has close ties to Wall Street, receiving more than $900,000 in bonus cash from a division of Citigroup just as the company was getting bailed out by U.S. taxpayers.” Maybe GA should be a biz friendly as Obama, his people always seem to come out on top. Just think how long it would take Jay to whine about this appointment if Bush had done it. Would it be out of line if we asked Lew if he paid taxes on his bonus or if he pulled a timmy geitner and cheated on his taxes.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:34 pm
SPEAKING OF MATT DAMON
did you know his ANTI-FRACKING movie is funded by…………… get this
the UAE……….. the 3rd largest member of OPEC
NOW THEY WOULDN’T WANT THE U.S. TO STOP FRACKING SO we WOULD BUY MORE OPEC OIL WOULD THEY??????????????????
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
3:34 pm
Dharma Bum
January 9th, 2013
3:26 pm
That was beyond ridiculous. The guy wouldn’t shut up long enough for dialogue. He was so paranoid he would be exposed that he released an avalanche of prepared words as if he may forget one or two points..
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
3:35 pm
Matt Damon???
Really?
Lordy, you must be one of those movie addicted Hollyweird Republicans, Sammy.
Do you take heat to the movie theaters?
LOL…
Granny Godzilla
January 9th, 2013
3:35 pm
Gun advocates need to tell Mr. Jones to take a chill pill.
He behaves like the poster boy for restricting access to those with mental issues.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
3:36 pm
TC @ 3:29
“Sexual assault has fallen by more than 60% in recent years.2 Had the 1993 rate held steady, 6.8 million Americans would have been assaulted in the last 13 years.
But, thanks to the decline, the actual number of victims was about 4.2 million. In other words, if not for the historic gains we’ve made in the last decade, an additional 2,546,420 Americans would have become victims of sexual violence”
http://www.rainn.org/
Georgia on my mind...
January 9th, 2013
3:36 pm
Nice article Jay….Keep the “facts” coming. Nathan Deal will continue to send this state on a downward spiral!! When he leaves office, he will probably be out of debt and a multi-millionaire. You get what you vote for Georgia!!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
3:36 pm
The only real question surrounding guns is obvious..
What would Jesus do?
Tee hee
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
3:37 pm
“Made it, Ma! Top of the world!”
– Thomas “Cody Jarrett” Jefferson
Dharma Bum
January 9th, 2013
3:37 pm
I’m not sure if he is serious, or just an incredible troll.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
3:37 pm
About the right to bear arms, here are (only) some useful quotes:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
3:38 pm
“And instead of a killing weapon she had a weapon that was just as effective in targeting and contact that disabled said attacker (say some advanced futuristic tazer or cattle rod), then she would not have had to fire bullets into him.”
Adam,
You should really quit with the idiot speak before you get too far behind. So what and where is this magical futuristic tazor that you speak of? A freaking cattle rod? Seriously. A cattle rod or tazor against a gun? You really haven’t thought any of this through have you? You have to be in a certain range to use those things punkin- as in 3 feet. So if this guy is looking at and aiming at you from 20 or 30 feet away you’re screwed. Gawd you say some dumb things. You might as well have recommended a Star Wars light saber.
And yes. I understand the term deterred quite well even if I did misapply it in one sentence.
As for being the big money guy at your office what I’ve found through years of experience is that when someone has to brag about how much money they supposedly make they are full of shyte 99% of the time.
Fred and I may not agree on much. But we both agree that we know a bullshyter when we see one. The idea that you are a registered Republican,that you are a small business owner, etc. are patently absurd. Fred was right- You’re full of shyte dude.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
3:40 pm
SR, yep a slippery slope, to be sure.
But after this latest slaughter – one of first graders, no less! – in a LONG, LONG, LONG line of slaughters, I am for the first time in my life sick of doing nothing about scumbags with heavy firepower.
Doing nothing (i.e., being a Republican) will no longer be acceptable.
It is to the point that I’m for marginalizing those slime merchants in the NRA, The ones that police chiefs around this country are also fed up with…
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
3:40 pm
“The only real question surrounding guns is obvious..
What would Jesus do?”
Or maybe… What would Jesus pack?
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
3:40 pm
“Gosh Towncrier, just yesterday you were telling everyone not to post links to partisan websites.”
About scientific questions, silly (on the theory that the question of whether or not recent global warming has been mainly anthropogenic is NOT going to be answered by all of the political pundits who have weighed in).
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:40 pm
for the SLOW LIBERALS
1) the U.S. is using more natural gas from fracking
PROBLEM NOT SOLVED
2) this use is decreasing the use of COAL
3) COAL is a HUGE contributor to CARBON EMISSIONS
4) the reduction in COAL has help the U.S. reduce carbon emissions to 1992 levels
5) LEFTIES want to STOP FRACKING
6) stopping FRACKING will increase use of COAL
7) increasing use of COAL will increase CARBON EMISSIONS to its highest levels
here we have a solution to our carbon emissions and LEFTIES want to destroy it and make the problem worse
to paraphrase Taylor Swift……….. its just so exhausting trying to talk logic with lefties……… they will never…… ever……… get it back together…………..
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
3:42 pm
“What would Jesus do?”
Why don’t you try to answer that question yourself and see what you come up with (hint: it will require actually reading the gospels and not relying on Cliff Notes or some such thing)?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
3:43 pm
How about personal force fields?
Nothing will work except possibly more vigilence and perimeter security systems…those will be far from foolproof as well…
We should set up a new agency like the Homeland Security. Yeah we can require all children without respect to color religion etcetera, all teachers, all faculty, all other employees and all visitors to get scanned and dump contents out of backpacks. It sure has saved our bacon probably hundreds of times from terrorist attacks…what a joke…
How about a color coded system or duck tape…anyone?
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
3:43 pm
Taylor Swift???
Who the hell is he?
Matti
January 9th, 2013
3:43 pm
“…Nathan Deal will continue to send this state on a downward spiral!! When he leaves office, he will probably be out of debt and a multi-millionaire.”
My sources tell me that the $4 mil in personal debt he had when he took office two years ago is nearly all settled now. Quite a feat on $135K/yr salary and a few meager perks, huh? Heck, if Daddy Deal really wants to help the citizens of Georgia, he’ll hold personal money management seminars for the rest of us! Let’s hold our breath and see.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:44 pm
jesus said render unto smith and wesson what is smith and wesson’s
and unto God what is God’s
he would have packed an UZI because he would have had to serve a mandatory tour in the Israeli military
and the money changers would have left EARLY
hamiltonAZ
January 9th, 2013
3:44 pm
” Any analysis that does not take demographics into account is incomplete.”
An examination of where we are compared to where we were DOES take demographics into account. It’s convenient but erroneous to “blame the minorities”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
3:45 pm
“Do, or do not; there is no try.”
– Thomas “Yoda” Jefferson
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
3:45 pm
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
3:42 pm
Yeah I read those books before….it was difficult to get past all the begetting at the beginning….Maybe he could turn all the guns into gummy bears…
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
3:45 pm
Gotta leave the kookapolooza for a little while. It’ll be interesting to see what kind of bullshyte our little faux registered republican comes up with this time. Jeez.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
3:46 pm
Uncle Samantha – good job trying to create a frackin’ kerfuffle. Please be aware that this current blog is about Georgia’s business climate, and that Blogspot would be delighted to host your views on whatever you’re trying to talk about instead.
Hope this helps.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:46 pm
if you think DEAL made out………….. check out SONNY
watch………. that amendment #2 that passed where the state can LEASE land/property now………… bet that Sonny’s new company makes out like a bandit getting leasing contracts from the government
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
3:46 pm
Uncle Sam @ 3.40, you might want to do a bit of research on the type greenhouse gases typically emitted while doing the fracking necessary to extract all this fabulous and totally safe and environmentally friendly natural gas.
http://www.nature.com/news/methane-leaks-erode-green-credentials-of-natural-gas-1.12123
Put short, there is no free lunch. Natural gas is better than coal, but it’s not the only solution, and it’s hardly benign.
(and stop assuming stuff about people you don’t know. I know that’s a tall order, but you might at least try.)
Granny Godzilla
January 9th, 2013
3:47 pm
Mark my words.
Reasonable gun control is going to happen this time.
And sooner than we think.
Morality?
January 9th, 2013
3:47 pm
Primary problem is the kick backs and pay offs the corrupt Atlanta gub’ment cartel demands.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
3:47 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:44 pm
That’s funny. What would Muhammed do?
Georgia on my mind...
January 9th, 2013
3:47 pm
if Daddy Deal really wants to help the citizens of Georgia, he’ll hold personal money management seminars for the rest of us!
____
Believe me, I would be the “first” to sign up!
Matti
January 9th, 2013
3:48 pm
Uncle Samantha,
Governor Shady is just getting warmed up. I believe his goal is to best Sonny on the crooked meter by at least 50% before it’s all over.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:48 pm
typical liberals
they CRY for years to cut Carbon emissions………… so we cut Carbon emissions
then they can’t accept that so then they cry its not the carbon its the METHANE………….
is it CHICKEN LITTLE or the LITTLE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF??????????
that is the question
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
3:48 pm
Joseph was so determined to protect the vulnerable infant that he kept a gun right there beside the manger. As the shepherds, the Wise Men, the angels approached, he said, “Don’t come any closer,” successfully keeping them at bay. As Jesus got a little older Joseph taught him to fire a weapon at a target in the shape of a Roman soldier.
Later, when he recruited disciples, the Jesus I’m imagining made sure they were armed. After all, we know from the Good Samaritan story that robbers preyed on travelers. And there were all those dangerous Romans soldier occupying the land, denying the Jews of all liberties. Surely Jesus and the twelve spent hours by Lake Galilee practicing their shooting skills.
One day Judas said, “I hear the Romans have new guns, more powerful than an ordinary rifle. Their guns can shoot bullets in rapid succession.”
“Then we must have them too,” Jesus replied. When Judas returned with thirteen AK-47s, Jesus and the twelve had confidence that these weapons would provide the protection they needed. Besides, firing these guns made them feel like real men.
When crowds began to gather around him, a gun-toting Jesus told this parable: “One time there was a wealthy merchant. A robber came to his place of business, but the merchant had a gun and was able to kill the robber. Behold, we live in dangerous times when we must protect our families and ourselves. Only with powerful weapons are we safe.” And the crowds believed him.
What about the night Jesus was arrested? While some of the disciples napped, others played cards. Jesus, though, was engrossed in prayer. So he was taken completely by surprise when Roman soldiers burst on the scene. Still, he was able to reach for his AK-47 fast enough. The disciples too. They mowed those soldiers down—like the good guys do in movies.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
3:49 pm
Granny Godzilla
January 9th, 2013
3:47 pm
What does that look like? Given our constitution, courts and NRA I can’t see anything that will work and is practical at the same time..
Morality?
January 9th, 2013
3:49 pm
Sounds to me like reasonable gun control would be to get illegal guns out of the hands of Mexican drug cartels, street gangs, convicted felons and the insane.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
3:50 pm
“registered republican”
The next step to confiscation!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
3:50 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
3:48 pm
Bravo! That is a masterpiece…now tackle Muhammed.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
3:51 pm
…now tackle Muhammed.
No, sport.
Morality?
January 9th, 2013
3:52 pm
Kamchak – are you on meth again?
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:52 pm
BIG MO might start a SPONTANEOUS PROTEST with firearms, grenades and explosives
Granny Godzilla
January 9th, 2013
3:52 pm
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
January 9th, 2013
3:49 pm
Granny Godzilla
January 9th, 2013
3:47 pm
What does that look like? Given our constitution, courts and NRA I can’t see anything that will work and is practical at the same time..
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Of course you can’t I specifically said reasonable.
We will have a stricter assault weapons ban, we will have large capacity magazines banned, the
gun show loop hole closed, a ban a private sales, increased law enforcement and mental health
reviews and registrations that are regularly reviewed.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
3:53 pm
Kamchak, that Shock and Awe Jesus story really warmed my heart.
Blessed are the gun toters.
Morality?
January 9th, 2013
3:54 pm
There is nothing like an arrogant and ignorant atheist….. that thinks they know it all but knows nothing.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
3:54 pm
Morality? — Will you ever stop beating your wife?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
3:55 pm
CARBON EMISSIONS DOWN?
Please…according to some sources, they are up globally and stable in US over the past decade yet temperature, by any measure, remained stable…
How does that work?
http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/2012/07/02/global-carbon-dioxide-emissions-facts-and-figures/
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
3:57 pm
Alright…this “conversation” is losing altitude fast. I’m out for now. Pleasant evening all.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:58 pm
pssssssssssst Stevie
they are down in the u.s. because we are using more natural gas and less coal………. OMG………. how many times can you try to teach a liberal????????
they are up globally because china and india the other nations ARE USING MORE COAL AND DRIVING MORE CARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as taylor keeps saying in her song
THIS IS SO EXHAUSTING
Thomas
January 9th, 2013
3:58 pm
I still laugh remembering Cynthia Tucker getting crushed in a debate about gun control. Good ol’ Cynthia Tucker- truly a spokes person for everyone in her on mind.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
3:58 pm
. I’m out for now.
New sock-puppet in 3…2…1….
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
3:59 pm
Morality?
January 9th, 2013
3:54 pm
An arrogant bible smacker who spends tax free dollars in an attempt to impose his BS to influence political or scientific issues is actually worse than any arrogant atheist. At least the arrogant atheist doesn’t exclusively use a old book of parables that has been translated more time than anyone will admit..
Why do you care if gays marry and women can make their own personal decisions? Why do you think your beliefs are superior?
getalife
January 9th, 2013
3:59 pm
Bat crap crazy.
Looks like more gun regulations are coming .
Give us some more of that con drama.
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
3:59 pm
Off topic (but aren’t they all, 600+ posts in?)–
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/white-house-responds-to-1-trillion-platinum-coin
Glad to see the White House hasn’t outright-rejected a perfectly reasonable (if silly sounding) Plan B.
Morality?
January 9th, 2013
4:00 pm
Show me ONE example where the gub’ment saved a victim’s life in the case of armed home invasion ……if you are waiting on the gub’ment just color yourself TO LATE & maybe TO DEAD.
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
4:01 pm
Thomas @ 3.58, I don’t remember Cynthia Tucker ever getting “crushed” in *any* debate, and certainly not by any right wing gun-sucking numbskulls.
Perhaps you can supply a link.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
4:02 pm
I still laugh remembering Cynthia Tucker…
^^^^^^^^^^^^Pulitzer Prize envy^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Morality?
January 9th, 2013
4:04 pm
Stevie Ray joins Kamchak at the Meth Lab. I don’t care if you marry your pet chihuahua …… and why should I?
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
4:04 pm
Is Taylor Swift married to Matt Damon?
And is Thomas speaking in tongues again? (grin)
NEW YORK — Steroid-tainted stars Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and Sammy Sosa were denied entry to baseball’s Hall of Fame, with voters failing to elect any candidates for only the second time in four decades.
Bonds received just 36.2 percent of the vote, Clemens 37.6 and Sosa 12.5 in totals announced Wednesday by the Hall and the Baseball Writers’ Association of America. They were appearing on the ballot for the first time and have up to 14 more years to make it to Cooperstown.
Excellent…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
4:05 pm
TO[sic] LATE & maybe TO[sic] DEAD.
TOO IRONIC!
Adam
January 9th, 2013
4:05 pm
I’m employed by a company in CT, remote.
Morality?
January 9th, 2013
4:05 pm
Cynthia Tucker mostly crushed herself with her idiocy.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
4:05 pm
Immorality, Air Iran is ready when you are.
You’ll have plenty of other US gubmint haters there to pal around with…
Bob
January 9th, 2013
4:06 pm
Jamvet, you and the left never seemed to interested in the hundreds of school age children that have been murdered in Chicago during Obama’s years in office. Why is it that everyone is now whining for gun control after some white kids got killed, why have we not heard much of the murders in Chicago ? Hundreds of black kids die we hear nothing, 20 white kids and we need to take action.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
4:07 pm
Cynthia Tucker mostly crushed herself with her idiocy.
Doubling down on the Pulitzer envy.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
4:07 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:58 pm
So when we get coal emissions down another 50% or so, the sky is not gonna fall?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
4:08 pm
… why have we not heard much of the murders in Chicago ?
Why indeed.
It’s just been a drugey staple since the Newtown shooting.
Thomas
January 9th, 2013
4:09 pm
Pulitzer Prize Envy- too funny- maybe better than P&nis envy
Morality?
January 9th, 2013
4:09 pm
Got to go make some electric tea – so as I can unnerstand use geneouses on hear.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
4:09 pm
Morality?
January 9th, 2013
4:04 pm
So much for an educated conversation. I’m going to hell. KAMCHAK i will see you there…please bring the virgins and meth lab..
You know what Samuel Clements said about “faith”? He defined it as believing in something you know isn’t true…”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
4:11 pm
too funny- maybe better than P&nis envy
Not nearly as funny as me predicting your arrival the same minute that you showed up.
too little time
January 9th, 2013
4:12 pm
I’d offer that while the business environment in GA is good, the massive sprawl produced from 1990-2007, and subsequent collapse of the construction industry, the huge foreclosure rate caused by subprime lending, has hobbled GA and especially Atlanta metro’s economy. Now, 30% of Atlanta homeowners are underwater, banks have folded, and we are still recovering where other metro areas have already recovered.
Georgia fell further in the economic downturn than most states, and still has not recovered.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
4:12 pm
silly liberals
tricks are for gun makers
ban assult weapons and they will find a way around
instead of using military size ammo………. they will switch to hunting rifle size ammo
then call them HUNTING RIFLES
hunting for pig, coyote and small game
can’t ban hunting rifles
Thomas
January 9th, 2013
4:12 pm
FU
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
4:13 pm
Bob, and YOU are concerned about black children???
Anywhere in this country???
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your cancerous Obama Derangement Syndrome is the only thing you care about.
I stand with the police chiefs in this country.
You soft-on-crime Republicans stand with the NRA and the heavily armed psychopaths…
Morality?
January 9th, 2013
4:14 pm
Sounds like you are the hater……. I love the U.S. – to bad the politicians you voted for don’t.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
4:14 pm
I did a cut-and paste job on my Bible, taking out all of the silly miracles. I am the father of the war on Christmas, and Easter too.
-Thomas Jefferson
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
4:17 pm
They have to do the Platinum Coin or else Kim & Kanye will use it for their baby’s name because Ivy Blue is already taken.
Heh, heh, heh.
indigo
January 9th, 2013
4:18 pm
td – 3:33
It’s probably a waste of time to show you what a top NASA scientist thinks about global warming.
Still….
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/story/2012-08-04/heat-waves-climate-change-james-hansen/56794570/1
RB from Gwinnett
January 9th, 2013
4:18 pm
Ah, yes, the gun control through executive order plan. Who knew we elected a dictator?!!
Actually, who didn’t…
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
4:19 pm
What has this turned into?
Some cheap liberal jacuzzi where everyone farts in the bath tub?
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
4:20 pm
“Ah, yes, the gun control through executive order plan.”
Republicans should try winning a few elections!
Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?
January 9th, 2013
4:22 pm
Republicans should try winning a few elections!
If only they had nominated Elmer Fudd, instead.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
4:23 pm
stevie
unfortunately no matter if the WORLD cut COAL in half…………. there will be global warming
it is a FACT of nature…………. global warming has been around since the beginning
we are in a warming trend
nothing we do will stop it
but if you want to engage in why we should develop alternative energy sources for ECONOMIC GROWTH
i am with you
but Obama is going against the market place……….. you can’t build the companies and products and THEN get demand
we have to build demand first………
and demand by most is incorrect…….. they are looking for MACRO level solution to green energy……… massive solar farms and wind farms (controlled by business)
a SMARTER MODEL is to go MICRO level solutions
imagine your home
with small wind mills on the roof ……..and the house made out of siding and roofing material with solar production built into it. ( they are making progress with paint and material that can produce solar energy)………. with smart appliances that only draw energy when needed (why should the hot water heater keep heating when you aren’t home or when you are alseep??…….. and geothermal system that used the temperature differences from above/below ground to heat and cool………….. etc
then cars that the paint and panels are solar and collect energy to partially run the electrical system while the hybrid does the actually moving etc…………….
build the DEMAND FROM US THE CONSUMERS
then THEY CAN BUILD THAT
Adam
January 9th, 2013
4:24 pm
Thulsa: A freaking cattle rod? Seriously. A cattle rod or tazor against a gun?
Yes, seriously. And there are distance tazers by the way. And they are very good for personal defense. There’s also mace, bricks, etc.
As for your contention that I am full of shyte, you’re wrong. I can prove the registered Republican part with certain redacted things from my voter registration card if you like. I am not sure how to prove I own a small business or that I work for an oil company without giving you more info about myself than I would like. But you know what? Have Jay backtrace my IP and let HIM tell you where the IP comes from. It’s the corporate IP, so it will show that I am telling the truth on the oil company part.
So nice try, but no. I am telling the truth on all of that.
The other half of your brain.
January 9th, 2013
4:28 pm
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
4:20 pm
“Ah, yes, the gun control through executive order plan.”
Republicans should try winning a few elections!
Danny, There have been 18 Republican Presidents & 14 Democrats.
Google
Yahoo
And Library are your friends.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
4:28 pm
td: I didn’t say it was proven beyond a scientific shadow of a doubt. It is however backed by enough evidence to knock back a contention that global warming is NOT real, beyond a shadow of a doubt in a court of law. As well as evidence that knocks back the contention that humans are NOT mostly the cause. And THAT would be scientific, attempting to disprove the theory.
So yes, thank you for admitting your error and I’m sorry for the harshness. But citing the Founding Fathers, as I have done myself, shows only that they considered the citizens should be a part of a well-regulated militia, even if not considered so directly by law. From that standpoint, they derived that everyone should have a gun and be trained to use it, from their understanding of what guns were at the time, and not being able to predict technological breakthroughs that would make things like tanks and nukes. They most certainly did not advocate that regular citizens should be allowed to have any weapon they wanted if it posed a significant threat to other citizens.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
4:30 pm
Stevie Ray: How about personal force fields?
This is what I mean by outside the box thinking. Yes, I would totally go for that. I think, once developed, everyone should be provided one. Suddenly guns have no effect.
We could also see if it’s possible to have some sort of radio waves that disable all gunpowder weapons within a certain radius.
The other half of your brain.
January 9th, 2013
4:30 pm
Yes, seriously. And there are distance tazers by the way. And they are very good for personal defense. There’s also mace, bricks, etc.
Thulsa, Adam is absolutely right, as long as your standing within 15 feet.
RB from Gwinnett
January 9th, 2013
4:30 pm
“global warming has been around since the beginning we are in a warming trend nothing we do will stop it”
It’s funny to listen to the liberals tell us about the theory of how the ice age killed all the dinosaurs and then ask them to explain what caused the warming since then. But, but, but…. I know, I know…Bush’s bad environmental policy did that too….
Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?
January 9th, 2013
4:30 pm
Google
Yahoo
And Library are your friends.
And Romney won’t be sworn in on January 20th.
The other half of your brain.
January 9th, 2013
4:31 pm
Adam
January 9th, 2013
4:30 pm
Stevie Ray: How about personal force fields?
This is what I mean by outside the box thinking. Yes, I would totally go for that. I think, once developed, everyone should be provided one. Suddenly guns have no effect.
We could also see if it’s possible to have some sort of radio waves that disable all gunpowder weapons within a certain radius.
” Tinfoil on the head works real well also “
Adam
January 9th, 2013
4:31 pm
Jay!
Adam
January 9th, 2013
4:05 pm
I’m employed by a company in CT, remote.
This was not me. Please remove and take action against the name-jacker. Thanks.
TM
January 9th, 2013
4:31 pm
I guess the fact that this State is as Jay has noted such a terrible place to live accounts for the fact that the population increase over the last 10 years puts the State in the top ten. Must be a lot of stupid people moving into this terrible State. Maybe we need waring signs in the Welcome centers
RB from Gwinnett
January 9th, 2013
4:32 pm
“If only they had nominated Elmer Fudd, instead.”
Or promised more free stuff.
too little time
January 9th, 2013
4:32 pm
The reason the unemployment rate is so high is because the federal gubmint continues to extend benefits. I personally know people who have no desire to work and would rather sit on their behind and be on the gubmint dole… Its demographics Jay. Plain and simple. If you cut off the benefits the leeches of society would get off their behinds and go to work if they want to eat…
Actually, this has some semblence of truth. Nobody is going to be able to “prove” or “disprove” this theory. But from the people I know… ITS TRUE. It wasn’t true in 2009. The folks out of work in 2009 were desperate for another job and looking.
But I know a handful of folks out of work right now, and they have no intentions of going back until their unemployment runs out. You see, their spouses have good jobs, the economy has turned a bit, and they are perfectly happy to collect the public dole until it runs out.
The people I know out of work (and, BTW, they are NOT minorities… ) seem to have accepted their unemployment status and are letting their wives take over the household breadwinner role. I never thought I would see that in my life… but it has happened. Amazing to me, because these are guys that have worked all their lives, and they seem accepting to just let that all go.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
4:32 pm
Out for my commute home guys. Later!
The other half of your brain.
January 9th, 2013
4:32 pm
Kamchak – You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn’t you nominate him?
January 9th, 2013
4:30 pm
Google
Yahoo
And Library are your friends.
And Romney won’t be sworn in on January 20th.
And neither will you, Sport!
Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?
January 9th, 2013
4:33 pm
Must be a lot of stupid people moving into this terrible State. Maybe we need waring[sic] signs…
Oh, the irony!
Erwin's cat
January 9th, 2013
4:33 pm
JamVet – cat, you need a dictionary.
jus·tice -noun
1. the quality of being just; righteousness, equitableness, or moral rightness: to uphold the justice of a cause.
2. rightfulness or lawfulness, as of a claim or title; justness of ground or reason: to complain with justice.
3. the moral principle determining just conduct.
4. conformity to this principle, as manifested in conduct; just conduct, dealing, or treatment.
5. the administering of deserved punishment or reward.
Maybe you can find it, but I don’t see the word *fair* in there anywhere, do you?
Again, just answer the question, instead of just deflecterbating and showing your inability to make an intelligent argument outside of your endless simplistic sloganeering.
Ir won’t kill you to take a stand, righteous or otherwise, now and then.
seriously what kind of Don Quixote world do you live in? (how’s that for sloganeering?)…I stand on my principles that are defined outside of political ideology…you should try it sometime….
Christian Conservative
January 9th, 2013
4:35 pm
JamVet:
You have to be the most intelligent question on here… Just kidding….
Adam:
Take a ride and get out of your mother’s basement… Ride through downtown Atlanta or come down to South Georgia.. You’ll see thousands of sorry folks propped up doing nothing because they don’t have to…
Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?
January 9th, 2013
4:35 pm
And neither will you, Sport!
Unlike Romney, I didn’t apply for the job.
Sport!
The other half of your brain.
January 9th, 2013
4:35 pm
Adam
January 9th, 2013
4:31 pm
Jay!
Adam
January 9th, 2013
4:05 pm
I’m employed by a company in CT, remote.
This was not me. Please remove and take action against the name-jacker. Thanks.
Jay, You can use a Taser on that person & if it doesn’t work than Pepper Spray them.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
4:35 pm
“Or promised more free stuff.”
RB – seems none of the Obama voteres on this site got their free stuff. Do you have another, more accurate, reason why Obama won the Presidency?
td
January 9th, 2013
4:36 pm
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
4:20 pm
“Ah, yes, the gun control through executive order plan.”
Republicans should try winning a few elections!
Republicans did win 30 governorships and retained control of the US house of Reps as well as total control of 24 state legislatures.
I could only wish Obama overplayed his hand with executive orders because there would be a huge impeachment fight and the Senate would return to the hands of Republicans. Only a dream because I am sure Obama is not this stupid.
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
4:36 pm
“And Romney won’t be sworn in on January 20th.”
That’s correct. Instead, we will get to see/hear Obama lie again. You know, the part about upholding laws and abiding by the Constitution.
The other half of your brain.
January 9th, 2013
4:36 pm
Kamchak – You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn’t you nominate him?
January 9th, 2013
4:35 pm
And neither will you, Sport!
Unlike Romney, I didn’t apply for the job.
Sport!
Who would want you? Sport.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
4:38 pm
Google
Yahoo
———————
Friends of conservatives also, they love them. Not surprising, conservatives just love modern culture, brought to you by liberals, then in the next sentence complain about the moochers.
Conservatives say cute things like “Go google moocher you stupid liberal.”
Melshop
January 9th, 2013
4:38 pm
A couple of points from a business owner. The state’s laws make it fiscally impossible to hire people. Work comp laws are based on the idea that biz owners are evil and workers are good, but don’t take into account that many workers seek to cheat businesses and insurance companies out of money with fraudulent claims. Also, the paperwork and redtape to open a business is overwhelming. We knew what we were doing and it was still cumbersome. Many folks want to test their business for a while on the side before jumping in, but current regulations don’t allow that. You still have to pay the same fees, do all of the same paperwork as if you in it for the long haul. That is very expensive and many folks want to start businesses because they are out of work and need money. I think a lot of this can be streamlined and still over public protection, but that will never happen if it is up to politicians. They love the red tape too much because it secures their positions.
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
4:38 pm
“….Obama is not this stupid.”
Probably not, but he gets a little whacky when off teleprompter. Makes me wonder who IS the brains behind his administration. Besides, he plays too much golf and is never off the campaign trail long enough to do all the things for which his bunch gives him credit. It may be Axelrod and Jarret.
Kamchak - You cons said Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama, so why didn't you nominate him?
January 9th, 2013
4:39 pm
Who would want you? Sport.
Candice Swanapoel and Adriana Lima immediately leaps to mind.
Sport!
The other half of your brain.
January 9th, 2013
4:40 pm
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
4:38 pm
Google
Yahoo
———————
Friends of conservatives also, they love them. Not surprising, conservatives just love modern culture, brought to you by liberals, then in the next sentence complain about the moochers.
Conservatives say cute things like “Go google moocher you stupid liberal.”
Dannyx, Don’t forget to thank Al Whore for inventing the internet. I hope you like Al Jezzera.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
4:40 pm
“I could only wish Obama overplayed his hand with executive orders because there would be a huge impeachment fight and the Senate would return to the hands of Republicans.”
LOL! More political predictions from t “unskewed” d. Tell us some more!!
Drudge
January 9th, 2013
4:44 pm
Love this liberal mindset that all people can be prosperous. Sorry, but the world needs ditch diggers too.
Take all the money in the country, put it into a pile and divide it equally in the morning. By noon, you will have rich and poor again. Psst – it will be the same people that it is now…
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
4:44 pm
“Why Ga. has so little to show for being so ‘business friendly’”
We may not have attracted much business, but at least the schools suck.
td
January 9th, 2013
4:44 pm
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
4:40 pm
“I could only wish Obama overplayed his hand with executive orders because there would be a huge impeachment fight and the Senate would return to the hands of Republicans.”
LOL! More political predictions from t “unskewed” d. Tell us some more!!
You just love taking people out of context don’t you. As far as predictions I am sure you did not predict that Roy was going to be our governor two years ago.
getalife
January 9th, 2013
4:45 pm
cons pretended facts don’t matter with mitt.
Erwin's cat
January 9th, 2013
4:45 pm
Don’t forget to thank Al Whore for inventing the internet.
No Al invented carbon credits not the internet
Erwin's cat
January 9th, 2013
4:46 pm
If the south sux so much..how come no one retires and moves up north?
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
4:48 pm
“Dannyx, Don’t forget to thank Al Whore for inventing the internet.”
Great comeback, half! Do conservatives still think the internet is a series of tubes? Why don’t you call someone on your liberal iphone and ask?
Btw, next Tuesday is ‘Boycott the Liberal Moochers Day.’ No smartphones, movies, tv (except Fox News) software, Facebook, internet, ipads, ipods, college, music, AJC, Google, or Yahoo. You can just stare at the walls.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 9th, 2013
4:48 pm
Drudge: “Take all the money in the country, put it into a pile and divide it equally in the morning. By noon, you will have rich and poor again”
What a stinking load of sub-conservative pseudo-intellectual clap crap. Oh and kinda nice how it conveniently justifies the status quo huh…
td
January 9th, 2013
4:48 pm
Erwin’s cat
January 9th, 2013
4:46 pm
If the south sux so much..how come no one retires and moves up north?
And how come people keep moving here since we are last is education, not worker friendly Blan, blah balh all the other stuff the libs say negatively about the south.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
4:49 pm
..how come no one retires and moves up north?
It’s the grits. They come here for the grits.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
4:50 pm
the other half — “We could also see if it’s possible to have some sort of radio waves that disable all gunpowder weapons within a certain radius.”
Nikola Tesla called and he said to shut up.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
4:52 pm
” As far as predictions I am sure you did not predict that Roy was going to be our governor two years ago.”
I never ever predicted Roy Barnes would win. In fact I posted many times on the Political Insider blog that Barnes would lose.
DownInAlbany
January 9th, 2013
4:53 pm
Good news — it has become known that hidden deep within the massive 2800-page bill called Obamacare there is a Senate Amendment protecting the right to keep and bear arms.
It seems that in their haste to cram socialized medicine down the throats of the American people, then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Barack Obama overlooked Senate amendment 3276, Sec. 2716, part c.
According to reports, that amendment says the government cannot collect “any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.”
CNN is calling it “a gift to the nation’s powerful gun lobby.”
And according to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), that’s exactly right. He says he added the provision in order to keep the NRA from getting involved in the legislative fight over Obamacare, which was so ubiquitous in 2010.
Any truth to this? What you think?
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
4:53 pm
“You can just stare at the walls.”
Oh wait, you can still play with your ‘guns’. (No porn though.)
saywhat?
January 9th, 2013
4:54 pm
Drudge
January 9th, 2013
4:44 pm
Love this liberal mindset that all people can be prosperous. Sorry, but the world needs ditch diggers too.
Take all the money in the country, put it into a pile and divide it equally in the morning. By noon, you will have rich and poor again. Psst – it will be the same people that it is now…
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If this is true, why not just do it? Think of all the businesses that will spring up and thrive as they earn back the money spent by the people soon to be poor again. Think of all the people they will need to hire to run those businesses.
td
January 9th, 2013
4:54 pm
Monday Jan 19th has been approved as Gun Appreciation Day.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
4:55 pm
WHITE LIBERAL RACISTS NOMINATED ROY BARNES OVER THURBERT BAKER
shame on the democrats
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
4:55 pm
DIA — “Any truth to this? What you think?”
It has the smell of BS around it, but with that specific information on where the provision is supposed to be, it shouldn’t be too hard to track down.
I’ll go have a look-see and report back in a few.
Bob
January 9th, 2013
4:55 pm
Jamvet, why the silence on the black kids getting gunned down ? Yes I do care and have brought up this point before. Why does the left stay silent while urban youth, mostly black, are gunned down with regularity ? I also would ask why it happens in places run by liberals ? Jessie Jackson just stated that it happens in Chicago because of lack of education, lack of jobs, lack of hope. Have repubs run Chicago for the last fifty years ? Of course not, liberal dems have, why do the kids have no hope and poor educations in a city with wealth and total democrat party leadership ? And you say I don’t care ? Lets say I don’t, does that matter ? Does that mean that is okay ? I care, maybe you do not, either way, the leadership of big city liberals seems to be failing the people that need the most help. Don’t blame repubs for that.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
4:55 pm
I love the U.S.
What exactly do you love about it?
(THIS should be interesting!)
If the south sux so much..how come no one retires and moves up north?
When I first moved here in 1979, my boss at the company I worked for was from Connecticut.
He used to say that we are just claiming what is rightfully ours.
I laughed and thought, hell yeah, traitors, don’t lose next time!
Erwin's cat
January 9th, 2013
4:56 pm
Jam…I found it…but had to look in Merrian Websters dictionary
:the quality of being just, impartial, or fair
Bob
January 9th, 2013
4:56 pm
Granny, what is responsible gun control ? What would you propose that would end the violence ?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
4:57 pm
Found it.
Partly true and partly not true. Give me a moment to read and digest it.
saywhat?
January 9th, 2013
4:58 pm
Erwin’s cat
January 9th, 2013
4:46 pm
If the south sux so much..how come no one retires and moves up north?
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The weather, duh! It is certainly not for the people. Otherwise I would retire in Connecticut.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
4:58 pm
Jamvet, why the silence on the black kids getting gunned down ?
Silence?
This place has been drudgey spammed daily with your silly meme.
DownInAlbany
January 9th, 2013
5:00 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
4:49 pm
..how come no one retires and moves up north?
It’s the grits. They come here for the grits.
Or…maybe the cheesy grits!
Erwin's cat
January 9th, 2013
5:02 pm
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/justice?show=0&t=1357768423
JHM…my link
Soothsayer
January 9th, 2013
5:02 pm
I just can’t imagine what a Alabama quarterback would see in a woman like this. Can you?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
5:05 pm
Okay. Here’s where you can find what DIA was talking about:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2009-12-19/pdf/CREC-2009-12-19-pt1-PgS13490-2.pdf
You should be able to find Amendment 3276 beginning near the top of the center column.
Section 2716 begins in the right-hand column, right about the same place as Amendment 3276 does. Read down about 2-3 inches to find Part C. Here’s what it says:
‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT
GUN RIGHTS.—
‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—
A wellness and health promotion
activity implemented under subsection
(a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or
collection of any information relating to—
‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully possessed
firearm or ammunition in the residence
or on the property of an individual; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage
of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None
of the authorities provided to the Secretary
under the Patient Protection and Affordable
Care Act or an amendment made by that Act
shall be construed to authorize or may be
used for the collection of any information relating
to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of
a firearm or ammunition;
‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition;
or
‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
So there are limits regarding what data the FedGov can collect regarding privately owned firearms, but for purposes of this legislation, that only applies to “wellness and health promotion” activities and to the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to the ACA. There’s nothing preventing *further* legislation to give that authority to the SecHHS, and there’s nothing preventing some other branch of the Executive Office (e.g. the Attorney General) from obtaining and keeping that information.
FWIW, it sounds to me like a bunch of righties read this really quickly and misunderstood it.
td
January 9th, 2013
5:08 pm
Do not know if this was in the final version of Obamacare but here is the Democratic Senate Amendment in the bill.
PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN
12 RIGHTS.—
13 ‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PRO14
GRAMS.—A wellness and health promotion activity
15 implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not re16
quire the disclosure or collection of any information
17 relating to—
18 ‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully19
possessed firearm or ammunition in the resi20
dence or on the property of an individual; or
21 ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage
22 of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.
23 ‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None
24 of the authorities provided to the Secretary under
25 the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or
6
BAI09R08 S.L.C.
1 an amendment made by that Act shall be construed
2 to authorize or may be used for the collection of any
3 information relating to—
4 ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of
5 a firearm or ammunition;
6 ‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammu7
nition; or
8 ‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or am9
munition.
10 ‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA
11 BANKS.—None of the authorities provided to the
12 Secretary under the Patient Protection and Afford13
able Care Act or an amendment made by that Act
14 shall be construed to authorize or may be used to
15 maintain records of individual ownership or posses16
sion of a firearm or ammunition.
17 ‘‘(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PRE18
MIUM RATES OR ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSUR19
ANCE.—A premium rate may not be increased,
20 health insurance coverage may not be denied, and a
21 discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation
22 in a wellness program may not be reduced or with23
held under any health benefit plan issued pursuant
24 to or in accordance with the Patient Protection and
7
BAI09R08 S.L.C.
1 Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that
2 Act on the basis of, or on reliance upon—
3 ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of
4 a firearm or ammunition; or
5 ‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm
6 or ammunition.
7 ‘‘(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION RE8
QUIREMENTS FOR INDIVIDUALS.—No individual
9 shall be required to disclose any information under
10 any data collection activity authorized under the Pa11
tient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an
12 amendment made by that Act relating to—
13 ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of
14 a firearm or ammunition; or
15 ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage
16 of a firearm or ammunition.’’.
17 (f) Section 2718 of the Public Health Service Act,
18 as added by section 1001(5), is amended to read as fol19
lows:
20 ‘‘SEC. 2718. BRINGING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH CARE
http://democrats.senate.gov/pdfs/reform/managers-amendment.pdf
DownInAlbany
January 9th, 2013
5:09 pm
Joe, I’m not sure that it was misunderstood, but, then again, most legislation is not written for the common folk (me) to understand. At the end of the day, one piece of legislation can be changed with another…or through executive order!
Jerome Horwitz
January 9th, 2013
5:09 pm
too little time – you need better friends.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
5:11 pm
E. Cat — “JHM…my link”
I’m sorry — I must have missed you speaking to me earlier. Can you catch me up, please?
Also, my wife found this interesting cat story on the web last evening. Perhaps you will enjoy it.
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/house
>^..^<
Soothsayer
January 9th, 2013
5:14 pm
All you football quarterbacks can have them beauty queens. This here’s the kind of woman I’m lookin’ fer!
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
5:15 pm
DIA — “Joe, I’m not sure that it was misunderstood, but, then again, most legislation is not written for the common folk (me) to understand. At the end of the day, one piece of legislation can be changed with another…or through executive order!”
With all due respect, it seems pretty clear in that health-related activities and the Secretary of HHS are the only offices or functions specifically enjoined from obtaining or keeping that data.
I know that some folks have called gun violence a ‘threat to public health,’ so perhaps that language really was put in there to placate the NRA. With that language, the NRA could at least be reassured that the PPACA wouldn’t be used *against* them in that way.
Paul
January 9th, 2013
5:15 pm
” we will get to see/hear Obama lie again. You know, the part about upholding laws and abiding by the Constitution.”
Sigh…. okay, JohnnyReb, I’ll bite.
You have facts, not your unfounded opinion, to back that up?
And possibly you can answer another question (assuming you’ll answer the first, which is doubtful): IF Pres Obama does not uphold the laws and abide by the constitution, why are the Republican leadership not following their sworn duty to issue articles of impeachment?
Real Scootter
January 9th, 2013
5:16 pm
FWIW, it sounds to me like a bunch of righties read this really quickly and misunderstood it.
Me too JHM. thanks for the info!And dumbing down the explanation for me.
too little time
January 9th, 2013
5:16 pm
too little time – you need better friends.
No, these are good guys that just seem to have given up. Now, it could be their ages…. ~50. They just don’t seem to want to do 9-5 any more.
Jm
January 9th, 2013
5:20 pm
I think Obama feels Chavez has outdone him
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
5:20 pm
Scootter — “Me too JHM. thanks for the info!And dumbing down the explanation for me.”
Thank you, sir — very kind of you to say!
But don’t just rely on me — you can read it for yourself! See what you think they’re saying in there.
It shouldn’t be too hard to find on the page if you read my earlier post.
Soothsayer
January 9th, 2013
5:23 pm
Jm, do you ever feel like you’re going the wrong way up a one-way street?
Adam
January 9th, 2013
5:23 pm
It shouldn’t surprise me that there are a few here that really don’t GET the idea of NOT lehally disptching an attacker.
You guys just want the opportunity to kill a mother-!
You just have bloodlust.
Paul
January 9th, 2013
5:24 pm
td 5:08
I didn’t read all your posts on that, but you do realize, don’t you, that the laws pushed by the NRA and conservatives has resulted in soldiers’ deaths because commanders cannot ask at-risk soldiers about personal firearms? And those at-risk soldiers are at risk of suicide? That about half of military suicides are committed with firearms? And that military’s generals and civilian leadership have been lobbying to get the law changed and the NRA opposes them? But hey, they’re soldiers, they’re supposed to die, right?
td
January 9th, 2013
5:31 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
5:15 pm
DIA — “Joe, I’m not sure that it was misunderstood, but, then again, most legislation is not written for the common folk (me) to understand. At the end of the day, one piece of legislation can be changed with another…or through executive order!”
With all due respect, it seems pretty clear in that health-related activities and the Secretary of HHS are the only offices or functions specifically enjoined from obtaining or keeping that data.
I think you are correct in that this only precludes HHS or anything to do with the Health care industry to collect or store any information about any person that lawfully owns a gun or on any ammunition an individual has. In other words the administration is not going to be able to say that gun violence is a healthcare issue.
One interesting thought now is it legal for HHS or the states to actually share mental health information for back ground checks since it involves guns?
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
5:33 pm
Speaking of Medicaid recipients, I hear they’re none too happy to see the cons booting them off the rolls even after they voted for them. The Republican 47% are really peeved.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
5:35 pm
“I think Obama feels Chavez has outdone him”
Bush W has certainly outdone Chavez. W signed 290 Executive Orders, 155 of them classified, secret.
Obama has signed 145 Executive Orders, none of them secret.
W and Chavez are soul mates, I believe Bush looked into the eyes of Chavez and peered deep into his soul. Bush liked him, a lot. Not Saudi Prince kiss on the mouth like, but still.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
5:35 pm
I don’t care what anyone else says but “Limitation on collection of information” should only apply to personal privacy issues. There should be no limit on gathering information for research that keeps everything as anonymous as far as any published or even most private research interactions are concerned.
We need to know more. We need more data. Stop blocking information because you don’t like where it will potentially lead.
td
January 9th, 2013
5:36 pm
Paul
January 9th, 2013
5:24 pm
td 5:08
“I didn’t read all your posts on that, but you do realize, don’t you, that the laws pushed by the NRA and conservatives ”
This is a Democratic amendment to Obamacare so that the NRA would not oppose the bill. It just shows that they sold their souls for Obamacare and be damned with the unintended consequences.
td
January 9th, 2013
5:37 pm
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
5:35 pm
“I think Obama feels Chavez has outdone him”
“Obama has signed 145 Executive Orders, none of them secret.”
That you are aware of.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
5:38 pm
Who bought the souls?
Real Scootter
January 9th, 2013
5:38 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
5:20 pm
Ok Joe,here is my take on it.
The NRA didn’t want doctors to be able to ask about guns in the homes of their patients and then turn that info over to the Gov.so that they could put that info in a database on who had guns in their home. (Iguess you know I’m not good at this stuff)
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 9th, 2013
5:38 pm
Well, I see where they’re talking about Obama making one of them Execution Orders to take all the automatic weapons. It”s getting to the point a poor redneck won’t be able to keep a couple machine guns and a anti-tank weapon for hunting and to protect his family.
I watched that football game last night where Alabama beat up on a bunch of Christian choir boys and then bragged about being national champions. When the camera switched to that girlfriend of the Alabama QB I couldn’t help but think they ought to lock somebody up for starving a woman that way. I bet she didn’t weight even 200 lbs. There ain’t enough woman there to even make a man put 2 x 12s under the floor of the trailer.
Anyhow, looks like Bookman’s grinding out the good goo for the old folks willing to pay to get the paper version of the AJC. We’ll get to see it here if we wait another week. Have a good night everybody.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
5:40 pm
td: This is a Democratic amendment to Obamacare so that the NRA would not oppose the bill
Yes, hindsight is 20/20. It didn’t matter in the end whether any right wing organization or group opposed the bill. Democrats could have had way more in it that was more to their liking. But they….
Wait for it….
COMPROMISED!!!!
OH THE HUMANITY!!!
Adam
January 9th, 2013
5:42 pm
“Obama has signed 145 Executive Orders, none of them secret.”
That you are aware of.
The righties loves them some conspiracy theory….
Tell me again how much you opposed executive power when Bush was in office. Or about how s”secret” Obama is when he announced to the world we have drones in the skies killing people overseas and how secret he is for having leaked, deliberately, that there is a kill list.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
5:46 pm
“That you are aware of.”
Nope. You can sign a classified, secret Executive Order but there has to be a record of it.
Now, if you have evidence of some unskewded secret Executive Orders being signed, to go along with your impeachment fantasy, lets hear it.
Maybe Obama signed a statement making Islam the official religion of the US!! Perhaps he signed a statement proclaiming Spanish is now the official language. Maybe he ordered his Kenya birth certificate destroyed! Sharia Law!!! Fill us in td.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
5:47 pm
Adam @ 5:42
That was funny wasn’t it. I figured td would go on to tell us about the EOs that have not been documented and how they are being carried.
Paul
January 9th, 2013
5:50 pm
td
The laws I was referring to weren’t in Obamacare – I should have made that clearer. As I said, they were pushed by the NRA and conservatives and were written into the Defense Authorization bill. I think the NRA’s opposition in this is downright reprehensible.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/02/23/exclusive-a-veteran-confronts-nras-keene-over-l/185379
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
5:51 pm
Real Scootter — “Ok Joe,here is my take on it.
The NRA didn’t want doctors to be able to ask about guns in the homes of their patients and then turn that info over to the Gov.so that they could put that info in a database on who had guns in their home. (Iguess you know I’m not good at this stuff)”
That sounds about right. It does say that the provision applies to “(a) wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D),” whatever that is. I haven’t looked that part up yet, but I’m going to hazard a guess that it’s either a national healthcare program, one of the healthcare programs coming out of the yet-to-happen state exchanges or one of the existing commercial plans that are compliant with the PPACA. So if my guess is right, you’d be correct in saying that it would keep doctors from asking about and keeping data on their patients’ guns, and would certainly keep them from passing that data on to the FedGov.
If you didn’t guess, I’m big on Show Everybody What It Says when it comes to the law and government and that sort of thing. The more everybody knows and the better-informed everybody is, the better we are at making good decisions at the ballot box.
I hope (fingers crossed)
Adam
January 9th, 2013
5:59 pm
TBS:
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
6:00 pm
td — “One interesting thought now is it legal for HHS or the states to actually share mental health information for back ground checks since it involves guns?”
Hmm — you may have found the unintended consequence!
So let’s think this through. When your local gun shop wants to sell you a firearm, they have to do the instant check, right? Where’s that database maintained? Is it in the Department of Justice? (that would be my guess)
So the DOJ isn’t constrained from maintaining the gun ownership data, and I’m guessing that they’re permitted to have limited medical data (specifically on persons who shouldn’t or can’t own firearms for psychiatric reasons. Seems to me that health care providers could *transmit* that data to the DOJ without running afoul of the law — they would just be saying ‘don’t sell this guy a piece,’ and they wouldn’t know if he actually owned any already or not.
I guess my question would be what happens when someone’s adjudged mentally ill and no longer fit to own guns. Does the ATF/FBI/DOJ direct the local police or Sheriff’s Department to go confiscate that person’s weapons, if he owns any? And how would that process work?
Matti
January 9th, 2013
6:04 pm
Oh, is Jm back here after taking ugly about Congressman Lewis for missing a vote the day after his WIFE passed away? Is it that Jm? Did you look at the photos in the AJC and laugh Jm? Because that’s just the kind of guy you are.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
6:10 pm
Hey Matti
Hope all is well and you had a great holiday season
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
6:14 pm
If I was a Republican, I could not be happier that the per capita income in Ga. has DECLINED 3.5% in the past 10 years or so.
You’re doing a heckuva job, connies…
Real Scootter
January 9th, 2013
6:15 pm
Dang JHM,you sure have a way of making me think a lot. My brain done got hot and I may have to pour some beer on it!
TBS
January 9th, 2013
6:19 pm
Real Scooter
Make that 2 or 3. Don’t want any embers to possibly cause a fire latter on.
Illyushin
January 9th, 2013
6:20 pm
I think the bar for college professors has been substantially lowered since I was a student many years ago.
http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2013/01/09/fau-prof-says-sandy-hook-massacre-may-have-been-gov%E2%80%99t-conspiracy/
Real Scootter
January 9th, 2013
6:27 pm
TBS
January 9th, 2013
6:19 pm
LOL TBS,I will take your advice and toss a few down the gulet also! (just in case)
F. Sinkwich
January 9th, 2013
6:30 pm
Been out of town but it’s always fun to check in to see what Jay and his amen choir of commie collectivists are opining about.
Had the misfortune of having to traverse Reagan National this AM suffering the T-shirt displays “celebrating” the second immaculation of O’bozo. No lines there however.
So Jay posts another “Georgia sux” blog. Good for him.
Libs ilks love to bash the south. It seems to be a favorite pastime. Jay has elevated that bigot RC to HOF status on his blog.
The genius of our founders lies in the 10th. It’s our last best hope to save the country.
td
January 9th, 2013
6:34 pm
“In an interview with the Daily Times Herald in Caroll, Iowa, state Rep. Dan Muhlbauer said governments should start confiscating semi-automatic rifles and other firearms.
Muhlbauer, a Democrat from the western Iowa town of Manilla, is a cattleman and farmer. The newspaper reported that he owns a .410 shotgun, a .22 rifle and a .22 pistol.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/iowa-lawmaker-calls-for-retroactive-gun-bans-confiscations-of-semi-automatic-weapons/#ixzz2HWZWARN9
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
6:36 pm
10thers.
td
January 9th, 2013
6:37 pm
“U.S. Sen. Richard Blumenthal said he wants legislation that would require instant background checks for the sale of gun ammunition. He is expected to take up the proposal once Congress reconvenes.
“They can be done in 30 seconds,” he said. “The vast majority are, and they would prevent people who should not have ammunition or firearms from actually buying it.”
Thomas heyward Jr
January 9th, 2013
6:47 pm
Rednecks, Hillbillies, white trash…whatever.
.
I only hope that the mutt in the Whitehouse tries an executive order on the 2nd.
.
C’mom Mutthead……………………………..do it!
F. Sinkwich
January 9th, 2013
6:48 pm
“…that would require instant background checks for the sale of gun ammunition…”
What a moron.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
6:48 pm
mutt in the Whitehouse
There’s your sign.
Fred ™
January 9th, 2013
6:52 pm
It surprises me not at all that the rabid, brain dead, right wingers will leap to criticize Jay for bringing them the truth. 10 Years of Republican rule here in Georgia has brought us 10 years of worse corruption…….
Fred ™
January 9th, 2013
6:59 pm
F. Sinkwich
January 9th, 2013
6:48 pm
“…that would require instant background checks for the sale of gun ammunition…”
What a moron.
+++++++++++++++++
LOL No kidding. What happens if you load your own? Are you supposed to check your own background before you do it?
Thomas
January 9th, 2013
7:07 pm
If I was a Republican, I could not be happier that the per capita income in Ga. has DECLINED 3.5% in the past 10 years or so
Actually pretty interesting to research. Pretty strong trend toward national- really low during Carter years.
hiram
January 9th, 2013
7:08 pm
td,
People famliar with the internets know how to Google for quotes that support their point of view, and how to cut and paste just those and ignore the links to counterpoints. It doesn’t require a lot of effort, or talent – anyone can do it. No one is impressed. Why do you do it 20 hours a day?
F. Sinkwich
January 9th, 2013
7:09 pm
“Are you supposed to check your own background before you do it?”
Well, I’ll sign off on yours if you return the favor!
Thomas heyward Jr
January 9th, 2013
7:12 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
6:48 pm
mutt in the Whitehouse
There’s your sign.
———————————————————-
.
Sorry.
I meant black trash mullatto.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
7:14 pm
I meant black trash mullatto.
It’s painfully obvious what you meant, sport.
Soothsayer
January 9th, 2013
7:15 pm
Jay, I just got off the phone with Ann Cox Chambers. She says one thread per day just ain’t gonna cut it. “Not for what I’m paying him!” Those were her exact words. I’m not kidding!
Tundra Dude
January 9th, 2013
7:16 pm
LOL No kidding. What happens if you load your own? Are you supposed to check your own background before you do it?
LOLOL!!! Goood Wun!!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
7:17 pm
She says one thread per day just ain’t gonna cut it.
I’m thinking something along the same lines.
What say we all meet an Manuel’s, run up a tab and put it all in Jay’s name.
Georgia
January 9th, 2013
7:18 pm
Pay no attention to the despised 47% behind the curtain.
Tundra Dude
January 9th, 2013
7:19 pm
Jay, I just got off the phone with Ann Cox Chambers. She says one thread per day just ain’t gonna cut it. “Not for what I’m paying him!” Those were her exact words. I’m not kidding!
What did she have these Opinionaters doing before the blogs were invented….sweeping the floor…??
Soothsayer
January 9th, 2013
7:20 pm
She also said “who does he think he is — Kyle Wingfield or somebody?!”
F. Sinkwich
January 9th, 2013
7:24 pm
“For more than a decade, in other words, Georgia has never ranked out of the top 10 for business climate, and over that period it has averaged in the top five.”
Bummer.
Lib ilks like Jay would much prefer that GA ranked in the 40’s apparently…
Skip
January 9th, 2013
7:25 pm
Kyle shut down yet?
Skip
January 9th, 2013
7:26 pm
Georgia wishes it could be top 40.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
7:29 pm
Heyward, you always struck me as the Klan type,
Hiding behind your libertarian claptrap cannot cover the stench of your racial bigotry…
F. Sinkwich
January 9th, 2013
7:33 pm
Take it easy on Jay, will ya?
I have it on good authority he had a meeting with his parole officer.
Steve-USA
January 9th, 2013
7:36 pm
I see it the same old gang with the same old posts still hanging around.
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
7:39 pm
“I see it the same old gang with the same old posts still hanging around.”
And we thank you for your banal contribution
Atlas Shrugging
January 9th, 2013
7:40 pm
I never seen the pride of Shower U at Manuels and I doubt they would let him carry a tab.Howeevvvvaaaaaa, my flight lands in a hour and I’m willing to drink with DEM-wits and REP-ugants on anybodys tab. Hell I might even put it on my tab..
Steve-USA
January 9th, 2013
7:42 pm
Doggone – “And we thank you for your banal contribution”
The irony is that it is more than you contributed all day…or the day before…or the day before that.
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
7:45 pm
“The irony is that it is more than you contributed all day…or the day before…or the day before that”
Or the day before that…or last week, last month, last year even…how far back should I go?
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
7:45 pm
Jay, if GA is so bad then please explain why businesses are leaving states like Ohio etc and moving south? I just laugh at you and your pathetic attempt at trashing GA every chance that you get. If things are so damn bad in GA please move back to that awful trash state know as Pennsylvania where they rape little kids in their universities.
Atlas Shrugging
January 9th, 2013
7:45 pm
Make that I;ve…
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
7:47 pm
“So Jay posts another “Georgia sux” blog. Good for him.
Libs ilks love to bash the south. It seems to be a favorite pastime. Jay has elevated that bigot RC to HOF status on his blog.
I call it the “southern penis envy syndrome.” Sort of like SEC penis envy syndrome where fans from other conferences show their jealousy over the dominance of the SEC. Jay is a sad sack who went to a university with the worst reputation in the history of universities. He doesn’t have a whole lot to be happy about so he trashes the state that he chooses to reside in.
Atlas Shrugging
January 9th, 2013
7:47 pm
Sorry. west coast to ATL typo.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
7:49 pm
” We also have the nation’s fifth highest rate of those without health insurance, and the fourth highest differential between rich and poor.
WTF does that health insurance have ANYTHING to do with growing businesses? Geez Jay, no wonder you write for the AJC. You know NOTHING about growing a business. The fact that you use words such as “rich and poor” shows how ignorant you really are.
Please tell me what business you’ve ever run.
Thanks
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
7:50 pm
The irony is that it is more than you contributed all day…or the day before…or the day before that.
The real irony is that you “getter” the concept of irony.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
7:50 pm
Swampy, we are just here to claim what is rightfully ours.
You traitors lost, we run the show, deal with it, loser.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
7:52 pm
“If I was a Republican, I could not be happier that the per capita income in Ga. has DECLINED 3.5% in the past 10 years or so.”
The entire country has declined in the last 4 years but please, continue to blame the GOP.
Ignorance is bliss and the poster who posted that is full of it.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
7:54 pm
“Swampy, we are just here to claim what is rightfully ours.”
Nothing is rightfully yours, Gommer.
“You traitors lost, we run the show, deal with it, loser.”
Neanderthal, the only thing that you run is your mouth.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
7:54 pm
The entire country has declined in the last 4 years but please, continue to blame the GOP.
I haven’t “declined” but please, continue to speak for others without their permission.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
7:55 pm
Sport.
Soothsayer
January 9th, 2013
7:56 pm
[P]lease explain why businesses are leaving states like Ohio etc and moving south.”
Because people who live in the south don’t mind living in trailers instead of houses?
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
7:56 pm
The entire country has declined in the last 4 years.
Too bad you can’t make a living writing such stupidity.
You are very good at it…
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
7:56 pm
“I haven’t “declined” but please, continue to speak for others without their permission.”
I’ll speak when and how I want, sport.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
7:57 pm
Watch out for your first graders, Swampy is going to go postal.
Cherokee
January 9th, 2013
7:58 pm
“He doesn’t have a whole lot to be happy about so he trashes the state that he chooses to reside in.”
Or maybe, just maybe, like me, he would like his kids to be able to grow up and stay here with decent jobs.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
7:58 pm
“Too bad you can’t make a living writing such stupidity.”
Looks like someone needs to get laid. Jamvet, you need a life, a girlfriend(or in your case a blow up doll) and a bottle of Prozac.
Soothsayer
January 9th, 2013
7:58 pm
Penis fixation?
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
7:58 pm
Hey Twink, even the cons at Kyle’s think you’re a nutjob. That takes real talent…
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
7:59 pm
“e would like his kids to be able to grow up and stay here with decent jobs.
That would make sense if his kids actually lived in GA.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
7:59 pm
“Watch out for your first graders, Swampy is going to go postal.”
Oh look, the resident angry old man is trying to get a rise out of me. How cute.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
8:00 pm
The GOP is in control in Georgia and that is why Georgia is still in decline while the nation is not.
Cherokee
January 9th, 2013
8:00 pm
’sigh’
so maybe he wants them to move here…
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:01 pm
“so maybe he wants them to move here…
The only way that’ll happen is if they can’t find jobs because of the horrible Obama economy.
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
8:01 pm
“Jay, if GA is so bad then please explain why businesses are leaving states like Ohio etc and moving south?”
If businesses are leaving states like Ohio etc and moving south…why aren’t they moving to GEORGIA? (Which, in case you missed it…is more or less the point of Jay’s piece)
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
8:01 pm
Twink, if that was an overture, I don’t do Republicans or animals, or in your case, both!
Are you buddies with Neal Horsley?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
8:01 pm
I’ll speak when and how I want, sport.
Tick…tick…tick….
I’ll bet this isn’t your first time with the countdown.
What do you think is a good over/under for your remaining time here?
Soothsayer
January 9th, 2013
8:02 pm
Oh noes! Kyle’s is shut down for the night. Now all the nutjobs like Swampathang (is that you, Little Davy?) are coming out of the woodwork!
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:02 pm
“The GOP is in control in Georgia and that is why Georgia is still in decline while the nation is not.”
????? So GA is the only state in the entire nation that is in decline? WHo knew?
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
8:04 pm
We got us a genuine swamp thang for entertainment tonight.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:05 pm
“I don’t do Republicans or animals, or in your case, both!”
It must really suck to be you, JamVet. The anger, the loneliness. Just damn dude. I’d hate to be you.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:06 pm
If GA sucks so much why did they finish at number 9 in best states to do business in?
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100016697
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
8:08 pm
Why doesn’t this number 9 best state to do business in have an unemployment rate to match.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:08 pm
Soothsayer
Like I told the resident angry old lonely man, it must suck to be you. I mean, you guys sit here all day everyday and argue with each other. I mean damn. DAMN. I’d hate to be as angry and lonely as you all are.
Soothsayer
January 9th, 2013
8:08 pm
Companies are leaving states like Ohio and moving south so that they can admire the penises of those Alabama football players (especially them 300+ lb offensive linemen) and so they can hire workers who live in trailers (no offense, Redneck).
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
8:09 pm
Honey Boo Boo Twink, first you would have had to graduate from high school. Then you would have had to drag your fat ass down to the local AFEES. (Ask someone, because you sure as hell have no idea what that stands for.)
Just keep trying to be the worst you you can be. You are well on your way…
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:09 pm
“Why doesn’t this number 9 best state to do business in have an unemployment rate to match.
Gee I don’t know. HORRIBLE NATIONAL ECONOMY, MAYBE?
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
8:09 pm
How many swamp thangs are there.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:10 pm
“Companies are leaving states like Ohio and moving south so that they can admire the penises of those Alabama football players’
Now THAT is funny.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
8:11 pm
Gee I don’t know. HORRIBLE NATIONAL ECONOMY, MAYBE?
So being number 9 best state and $1.50 will buy you a cup of coffee.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:12 pm
“first you would have had to graduate from high school. Then you would have had to drag your fat ass down to the local AFEES. ”
The anger is getting sadder and sadder to watch. You don’t have a lot of loved ones in your life do you, AngerVet? If you have to sink so low as to call me a “fat ass” and then state that I don’t have a high school diploma then you really are a sad little man.
Like I said, sucks to be you.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:13 pm
“(Ask someone, because you sure as hell have no idea what that stands for.)”
Ah, so now we have an angry man who thinks he speaks for the military because he was drafted in the Vietnam War? PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!
F. Sinkwich
January 9th, 2013
8:14 pm
In lib ilk world Georgia sux ’cause it ain’t California, New York, New Jersey and other scabs on the nation politik. And such ilk-dom won’t rest until every state in the nation sux as much as those do.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:15 pm
TaxPayer
Like I tell all those who trash talk GA. If you don’t like it then move. There are 56 other states you can move to. Well, according to the smartestest president in the world there are 56 other states.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:15 pm
F. Sinkwich
Most of the left wingers who hang out on this blog couldn’t afford to live in any of those states.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
8:17 pm
Like I tell all those who trash talk GA. If you don’t like it then move.
Like I told you before, I was born on Peachtree St., sport.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:19 pm
“You see, using tax money to help the Falcons and the NFL, the most profitable sports league on the planet, is “economic development”, while helping poor families get medical coverage is considered welfare.
So Arthur Blank is the government now? Who knew?
Poor people can go to the ER if they need care and they will never be turned down. What’s funny is the libs leave out the fact that doctors are leaving the medical world for good because of Obamacare. Medical residency numbers are at an all-time low.
Good luck with that one, libs. Maybe Obama can give you an Obamaphone and a pill to help with the pain.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:20 pm
“Like I told you before, I was born on Peachtree St., sport.
Looks like you were born on another planet to me.
td
January 9th, 2013
8:21 pm
Jay,
Your whole story is based on comparing apples and oranges. You can not compare wages in the south vs wages in the north without also comparing cost of living and taxes.
A job making $30,000 a year in Atlanta is equivalent to a job making $56,000 per year in NYC. A 2000 square foot house in Metro Atlanta today will cost you between $30,000 to $40,000 in Dekalb or Clayton or Between $80,000 and $120,000 in North metro. The equivalent house is $200 to $300,000 in the metro NYC area. Cost more for food and even alcohol in NYC then in ATL.
http://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/cost-of-living/
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:21 pm
Reality sucks for libs.
One-Third of Doctors to Leave Medicine Within Next Decade
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/7/prweb9716487.htm
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
8:22 pm
Wow, look at Twinkie. The kid is actually trying to string sentences together to make paragraphs!
His content is still gibberish, of course, but baby steps for Honey Boo Boo.
You go girl!
td
January 9th, 2013
8:23 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
8:17 pm
Like I tell all those who trash talk GA. If you don’t like it then move.
Like I told you before, I was born on Peachtree St., sport.
Then you just have to suffer as we Conservatives tell you how to live your life.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:23 pm
td
Jay doesn’t live in reality. He chooses to live in a red state with cheaper taxes than to live in a blue state and pay higher taxes. He doesn’t practice what he preaches.
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
8:23 pm
“Most of the left wingers who hang out on this blog couldn’t afford to live in any of those states”
Got proof?
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:24 pm
“Wow, look at Twinkie. The kid is actually trying to string sentences together to make paragraphs!’
JamVet, one day you’re gonna have a heart attack from your anger. The fact that you act like a litte kid is amazing to me. It really does suck to be you.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
8:26 pm
Looks like you were born on another planet to me.
Looks like you were born in LA.
Or was It GrandForks?
WOW
Soothsayer
January 9th, 2013
8:26 pm
Sorry, Swampathang, I was just reviewing some of your blog posts on CummingHome.com. Seems like blogging is sort of a second “career” for you. Or is it your “first” career?
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:26 pm
“Got proof?
Yep, you’re posting an Atlanta blog which means you either live in GA or you live in the south. Otherwise, you wouldn’t give two $hits about the AJC.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 9th, 2013
8:27 pm
Well, I get the same nightmare every night. I’ve passed on to the Great Reward and I’m standing in front of the Judgment Table. I look and see this Frank Sinkus on the left and josef on the right. That’s when I look at the Big Guy in the middle and say, “Just show me to the Hot Place.”
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:27 pm
td
The irony of these left wing loon rants is that most of these freaks live in GA. I love how they complain about all things Republican yet they live here. Amazing ain’t it?
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:28 pm
Kamchack, did you forget to take your meds or something?
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
8:29 pm
“Yep, you’re posting an Atlanta blog which means you either live in GA or you live in the south”
What does that have to do with your assertion “Most of the left wingers who hang out on this blog couldn’t afford to live in any of those states””
Don’t strain anything moving those goal posts
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
8:30 pm
Swamp Thang
Did you forget to stop beating your wife or something?
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:31 pm
“What does that have to do with your assertion”
Because you live here and not there. DUH.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:32 pm
Kamchak
Sport, there’s your sign, drudgeyspam…
Find a new schtick.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
8:34 pm
Like I tell all those who trash talk GA. If you don’t like it then move. There are 56 other states you can move to. Well, according to the smartestest president in the world there are 56 other states.
Like I tell all swamp thangs, if you don’t like my trash talking your trash talk then you can go to any one of those communist countries that may or may not restrict trash talk to your liking.
F. Sinkwich
January 9th, 2013
8:34 pm
“…I’m standing in front of the Judgment Table.”
Too bad you weren’t standing in front O’bozo’s death panel.
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
8:35 pm
“Because you live here and not there. DUH”
That’s not proof. Try again. Especially as, because of this little thing called the “Internet”, you have NO IDEA where I live. Posting here is not proof I live here.
Soothsayer
January 9th, 2013
8:35 pm
“Dale, you continue to be the biggest idiot on the planet. You can’t even get the figures right on this issue.
It is not, and never has been $12 million in taxpayer dollars, you moron.
Can’t you get anything right? Maybe you should have someone else write your material for you? Oh, that’s right! You already tried that didn’t you?”
Most of you will recognize this poster. This post is not from the AJC. It is from another publication. The posters are the same, however.
Some things just never change.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:37 pm
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
9:19 am
JamVet has posted nonstop since 9am this morning. Must be unemployed. No wonder he’s angry.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:38 pm
“That’s not proof. Try again. Especially as, because of this little thing called the “Internet”, you have NO IDEA where I live.’
You live in GA.
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
8:39 pm
“You live in GA”
Got proof?
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:40 pm
“Most of you will recognize this poster. ‘
Sounds exactly like JamVet since he’s the one using such names as “fat ass” and “idiot” all day long to other posters.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:42 pm
Taxpayer’s been here since 8:15 am so he’s also unemployed. I guess the unemployed hang out on Jay’s blog all day.
Soothsayer
January 9th, 2013
8:43 pm
No, it sounds more like you, Little Davy Crybaby. Turns out you have an extensive repertoire of posts online. In fact, you may be the most prolific poster of all time. Why, there must be hundreds of them! You don’t mind if I share them with the blog, do you?
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:44 pm
“Willie, will you please spout that moronic nonsense of yours
JamVet is one class act.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:44 pm
Soothsayer
You must also be unemployed like JamVet and Taxpayer. McDonalds is hiring if you need a job.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:46 pm
“Forget hillbillies, I prefer the word cracker.”
JamVet, 10am this morning. So it turns out or angry little old man is also a racist. Damn. Just damn.
td
January 9th, 2013
8:48 pm
“If it comes to the actual implementation of an actual confiscatory directive from our president, then I do believe that the heroes of the law enforcement will defy this order. I do believe that there are enough soulless sheep within our government who would act on such an illegal order but I believe the powers that be at the local, state, and regional law enforcement would halt such an illegal, anti-American order,” said Nugent.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/ted-nugent-gun-owners-the-next-rosa-parks/#gVhtXOjbq0JscebW.99
Well said Ted. I know quiet a few cops and military members who have basically said the same thing.
Soothsayer
January 9th, 2013
8:49 pm
You see, Little Davy Crybaby, you’re just the same as you have always been: full insults and no substance. It doesn’t matter if you’re Nero, Twinkie, Swamp Thang, or some other idiotic name that you dream up. Your entire online persona consists of insults and nothing more whether it be here, on Kyle’s blog or CummingHome.com. In fact, no matter what name you dream up, most of on here can recognize you instantly by your abrasive style and lack of substance. Maybe one day you’ll tire of your childish games.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
8:49 pm
Whirled Nut Daily.
Birther central.
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
8:50 pm
“You must also be unemployed like JamVet and Taxpayer”
It’s kind of sad when someone has so little in their life they have to resort to tracking someone else’s posting record.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:50 pm
td
Obama has no way of enforcing that stupid rant of his. If Chicago can’t control their thugs there is no way Obama can control an entire county.
Fred ™
January 9th, 2013
8:51 pm
Posting here is not proof I live here.
You don’t live here on the blog in the internet? Really? Are you going to try to tell me next that the REST of the people who post here don’t live here in Jay’s blog on the internet?
Wow. I thought I was the only one who didn’t live in cyber space. Bummer. I’m NOT unique………
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:51 pm
Soothsayer
For you and the other unemployed slugs.
http://www.jobapplicationcenter.com/fast-food-job-applications/mcdonalds-application/
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:53 pm
“It’s kind of sad when someone has so little in their life they have to resort to tracking someone else’s posting record.
Awe, did I strike a nerve with you again? Awe. Well, considering there are 11 pages of comments and JamVets was on the first three spouting off angry rants against other people, it really wasnt’ that hard. Now go find a job.
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
8:53 pm
“Wow. I thought I was the only one who didn’t live in cyber space. Bummer. I’m NOT unique”
Sure you are! Haven’t you see this: “I’m unique…just like everyone else”
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:54 pm
“Birther central.
Added to the list of other “genius” Kamchak lines. What EVER will he think up next?
Fred ™
January 9th, 2013
8:54 pm
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:50 pm
td
Obama has no way of enforcing that stupid rant of his. If Chicago can’t control their thugs there is no way Obama can control an entire county.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I love how you mindless talk radio/FOXBOT puppets have somehow made president Obama the founder of Chicago. Wasn’t it just a couple of month’s ago you idiots were claiming he was born and raised in Kenya?
Do you realize how stupid you sound?
Soothsayer
January 9th, 2013
8:54 pm
Swampathang, Tiberius, Nero, Twinkie, etc.: I accept your surrender! HAHAHAHAHAHA! What a joke!
Oh! by the way, you’ve already told us earlier that you’re retired, so that means you sit on your ass all day, right. You must sleep all day since you only show up here late in the afternoon, right?
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
8:55 pm
“Well, considering there are 11 pages of comments and JamVets was on the first three spouting off angry rants against other people, it really wasnt’ that hard”
Nothing like confirming how little you have in your life to occupy you constructively. It truly IS sad.
Fred ™
January 9th, 2013
8:56 pm
So, who do YOU think the latest alt, Swamp Thang is? Which regular cowardly poster afraid to use their own “name” and is hiding behind the sock puppet?
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:57 pm
“I love how you mindless talk radio/FOXBOT puppets
Ah yes, the “fox news” excuse. FOX!!!!!! FOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Wasn’t it just a couple of month’s ago you idiots ‘
I love how the left wingers talk about how “evil and mean” conservatives are and then turn around and then use such lovely language as “you idiots.”
“Do you realize how stupid you sound?
The anger is strong in this one.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:58 pm
“you’ve already told us earlier that you’re retired, so that means you sit on your ass all day, right.
If you were smart, which you obviously are not, you’d have realized that I didn’t start posting until about an hour ago which means I have not been here all day which means….I have a job.
Sucks to be you, unemployed little man.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
8:59 pm
“Nothing like confirming how little you have in your life to occupy you constructively.
Then again, you’ve been posting all day long. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
8:59 pm
Twinkie’s on a bender.
He is exhibit A in the Georgia GOP’s Neanderthal image problem.
But the kid did crack me up the other day when he got really irate and said he had an MBA.
I was impressed.
That he could even spell MBA!
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
9:00 pm
“Which regular cowardly poster afraid to use their own “name” and is hiding behind the sock puppet?
So JamVet is really named JamVet and Soothsayer is really named Soothsayer. Got it.
Fred ™
January 9th, 2013
9:00 pm
I love how the left wingers talk about how “evil and mean” conservatives are and then turn around and then use such lovely language as “you idiots.”
I don’t think you are evil OR mean. I just think you are stupid. Where did you dream up that evil and mean crap? More FOXBOT nonsense that you repeat?
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
9:01 pm
“Georgia GOP’s Neanderthal
JamVet couldn’t think up anything original so he goes and steals what I called him earlier. Sad. Just sad.
“But the kid did crack me up the other day when he got really irate and said he had an MBA.’
This must be the point in the day when JamVet’s medication kicks in and makes him type weird and off-the-wall rants.
“That he could even spell MBA!”
He could even spell MBA? Grammar fail, Vet.
Wilma
January 9th, 2013
9:01 pm
“I love how you mindless talk radio/FOXBOT puppets have somehow made president Obama the founder of Chicago. Wasn’t it just a couple of month’s ago you idiots were claiming he was born and raised in Kenya?”
Fred, shake those rocks out of your head right now!!! You have as much sense as a Compsognathus.
ld
January 9th, 2013
9:02 pm
Other states, SC for one, agressively seeks to coordinate tech edu w/business need. Georgia seems to have failed big time on that one.
When I went back to tech school years ago, I paid all costs while some who seemed to receive every form of aid and welfare imaginable got a free ride over and over again as they failed and/or dropped out of one course after another. Some of the funding for the state being business friendly would be well spent on aiding QUALIFIED applicants (weed out those that are drunks, drug addicts and/or repeat failures/dropouts) in order to get at least partial aid to those that are actually willing to do the work to get the training they need to fill the jobs currently available and those anticipated to be available in the near, foreseeable future.
Fred ™
January 9th, 2013
9:02 pm
So JamVet is really named JamVet and Soothsayer is really named Soothsayer. Got it.
No you don’t “got it.” In most folks I would think you were being deliberately obtuse but in your case I think you really DO lack the wits to understand the meaning of names in parenthesis.
I would have put it in simpler terms for you, but I doubt there is anything more complex than a grunt that you understand.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
9:02 pm
“I just think you are stupid.”
Awe, a faceless blogger thinks I’m stupid. How sweet.
Fred ™
January 9th, 2013
9:04 pm
Wilma
January 9th, 2013
9:01 pm
“I love how you mindless talk radio/FOXBOT puppets have somehow made president Obama the founder of Chicago. Wasn’t it just a couple of month’s ago you idiots were claiming he was born and raised in Kenya?”
Fred, shake those rocks out of your head right now!!! You have as much sense as a Compsognathus.
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Which would STILL be exponentially more sense than the far right FOXBOTS……..
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
9:04 pm
“I think you really DO lack the wits to understand the meaning of names in parenthesis.”
Fred actually thinks his comments mean something to me.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
9:04 pm
“FOXBOTS”
Added to Drudgeyspam, theres your sign and sport.
JamIt
January 9th, 2013
9:05 pm
“But the kid did crack me up the other day when he got really irate and said he had an MBA. I was impressed. That he could even spell MBA!”
Yeah, that is probably impressive to someone with a GED.
Fred ™
January 9th, 2013
9:05 pm
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
9:02 pm
“I just think you are stupid.”
Awe, a faceless blogger thinks I’m stupid. How sweet.
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No really. I DO have a face. Here’s your sign………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5ZkdHImCuQ
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
9:05 pm
“You have as much sense as a Compsognathus.”
Fred had to look that word up. That was way too big for Fred to handle.
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
9:06 pm
“Then again, you’ve been posting all day long”
Truly a sad thing to see when the only thing you have to occupy yourself is tracking others posting records.
Fred ™
January 9th, 2013
9:07 pm
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
9:04 pm
“I think you really DO lack the wits to understand the meaning of names in parenthesis.”
Fred actually thinks his comments mean something to me.
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Actually, no I don’t. i doubt you have the wits to understand my posts. You prove me right with your poor attempts at a rebuttal.
It’s a shame that liar Lil Kyle shut’s his place down or else you could post over there with the other mindless FOXBOT trolls.
Swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
9:07 pm
“Yeah, that is probably impressive to someone with a GED.”
Coke meet computer, computer meet coke.
Jm
January 9th, 2013
9:08 pm
Who is twink?
Fred ™
January 9th, 2013
9:08 pm
swamp Thang
January 9th, 2013
9:05 pm
“You have as much sense as a Compsognathus.”
Fred had to look that word up. That was way too big for Fred to handle.
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It’s not a word, it’s a dinosaur. Nice try little guy.