Why Ga. has so little to show for being so ‘business friendly’
In November, Georgia was ranked 4th in the nation for its pro-business environment by Site Selection magazine, which specializes in corporate relocations. The Georgia Department of Economic Development was understandably quick to seize on that happy news, giving it prominent play on the department’s website.
Such rankings appear to validate a concerted, decade-long effort by Georgia’s leadership to make the state as business-friendly as possible. Our state and local business tax burden, for example, ranks eighth lowest in the country, according to a 2012 analysis by Ernst & Young. And as Site Selection noted approvingly, the 2012 Legislature continued that effort by eliminating the sales tax on energy used in manufacturing, enhancing tax incentives and “strengthening” open records laws by delaying public release of economic development deals.
When the 2013 Georgia Legislature convenes Monday, it will no doubt attempt to continue that crusade. For example, while state legislators are likely to approve using tax money to help finance a new stadium for the Atlanta Falcons, they could balk at renewing a much-needed hospital tax that will help keep tens of thousands of poor Georgians covered by Medicaid.
You see, using tax money to help the Falcons and the NFL, the most profitable sports league on the planet, is “economic development”, while helping poor families get medical coverage is considered welfare.
The larger question, however, is whether the state’s strategy is achieving its goals. And that in turn depends on what you choose to measure. For example, here is how Site Selection has ranked Georgia’s business climate each year from 2002-2012:
2002: 4th
2003: 7th
2004: 4th
2005: 3rd
2006: 4th
2007: 2nd
2008: 10th
2009: 8th
2010: 6th
2011: 2nd
2012: 4th
For more than a decade, in other words, Georgia has never ranked out of the top 10 for business climate, and over that period it has averaged in the top five. That tells us that year after year, for an extended amount of time, our leaders have succeeded in crafting government policy to produce exactly the kind of regulatory and tax environment that business leaders say they need to produce growth and prosperity. So by that measure it has been a great success.
But what do we have to show for it?
— We have an unemployment rate of 8.5 percent, significantly higher than the 7.8 percent national average and the ninth highest rate in the country, tied with Mississippi. And it is not a short-term phenomenon. Our unemployment rate has exceeded the national average for each of the last 64 months.
— In 2001, Georgia had the 17th highest poverty rate in the country. By 2011 it had the nation’s sixth highest poverty rate. We are slipping and slipping fast.
— In 2001, the state ranked 25th in per capita income and was rising rapidly in that critically important category; today, it ranks 39th in per capita income. In fact, after adjusting for inflation, state per capita income has declined by 3.5 percent since 2001.
To make matters worse, while trying to create a diligently “pro-business” environment, state government has also attempted to shrink the social safety net substantially. In a piece headlined “Georgia’s Hunger Games,” Slate reported last month that thanks to aggressive government efforts to deny benefits, fewer than 7 percent of the 300,000 Georgia households in poverty collect benefits through Temporary Assistance to Needy Families, more commonly known as welfare. Nationally, the comparable number is 27 percent.
Is that punitive approach working? Not so you’d notice. We also have the nation’s fifth highest rate of those without health insurance, and the fourth highest differential between rich and poor.
In other words, there is no sign that pursuit of a narrowly defined “business-friendly” climate has resulted in a more people-friendly climate. And isn’t that the real goal?
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moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
2:08 pm
“The one Ive read says right to bear ARMS. Doesn’t say anything about guns.”
LOL,
I guess cheesy has the right to roll up his sleeves.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:08 pm
More on this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/judge-h-lee-sarokin/gun-owners-are-coming-to-_b_2425320.html
Gun Owners Are Coming To Take Away Our Free Speech Rights
Maybe reconsideration should be given to designating this as public information or thought be given to restricting its publication in a reasonable and sensible way. Maybe those who oppose publication are not intent on destroying all rights of free speech, just in the same way persons who want to restrict and regulate semi-automatic weapons, huge ammunition magazines and gun shows are not necessarily intent on confiscating all guns. Free speech certainly does less harm than guns. Shouldn’t both be susceptible to some sensible and reasonable regulation in the public interest? Encroachment, limitations or regulations of any constitutional right should be done with great caution and only for compelling reasons, but if the First Amendment should yield a little to reason — should not the Second as well?
OH MY GOD CONFISCATIONNNNN!
DebbieDoRight - When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.
January 9th, 2013
2:10 pm
DAnnyX: This war is tragic. Just last month i heard someone forced some birth control down Bristol Palin’s throat.
Oooo good one!
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ALL — The lady who shot the intruder did NOT shoot him with an assault weapon.
Please try to liken apples to apples when you make comments — it helps with clarity. Thanks!
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
2:11 pm
td — “Thanks for the big ole belly laugh. “Aggregator” for any story or site that puts together Conservative sources of the news and an omission of what you think of those leftest outlets that are 10 times more numerous then drudge.”
I didn’t omit them, punkin. You simply didn’t ASK about them. (laughing, pointing)
FWIW, I don’t have a charitable view of *any* aggregator, conservative or liberal. But I suppose since I didn’t rush to denounce them, that means — in your mind — that I must sleep with those site operators and bring them babies to cook and eat.
“I guess you consider the NY Time and WaPost as truly accurate reports of the “real” news.”
They do their own reporting, as do the Arizona Republic and the Washington Times. That alone makes them all superior to Drudge.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:11 pm
Obama is either the Messiah or Hitler. It depends on the issue.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 9th, 2013
2:12 pm
Deterrance does work in my view. Its just common sense imo. If you know that someone is armed you’re not going to go there.
Dang straight! I recall the first time the Rev. Jim Bob Buice came to the trailer to see me. I me him outside and was bragging a little about how Simpsons Trailer Park had the lowest crime rate in the county. The Rev. eyed my place and said, “If I was a burglar this is the last place in the world I’d try to steal anything from.”
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
2:12 pm
“Shouldn’t both be susceptible to some sensible and reasonable regulation in the public interest? Encroachment, limitations or regulations of any constitutional right should be done with great caution and only for compelling reasons, but if the First Amendment should yield a little to reason — should not the Second as well?”
I have said as much. Let’s start with pornography and public profanity. Then talk to me about guns.
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
2:12 pm
The sanctimonious Left is trying to frame the gun debate into sportsman activity. They refer to this that or the other gun as not something with which one would use to hunt. Obama in campaigning has stated he won’t take guns from hunters. What BS.
The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting.
The 2nd is about citizens having the right to arm themselves for protection and to defend the nation. That would include threats from within as when Progressives try to take the guns.
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
2:13 pm
“ALL — The lady who shot the intruder did NOT shoot him with an assault weapon.”
Too bad she didn’t.
Didn’t he survive after being shot several times in the face and neck?
I’m sure the guy will have a couple of years in prison to think about seeking some revenge…
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
2:14 pm
Cons have the right, per the constitution, to bear muskets. They can even be equipped with 100-round musket ball magazines.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
2:15 pm
“The one Ive read says right to bear ARMS. Doesn’t say anything about guns”
Bare arms? All my shirts are long-sleeved…
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
2:15 pm
Dang, mbetty, you beat me again.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:16 pm
Shorter JohhnyReb: <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087985/"WOLVERINES!
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
2:16 pm
The constitution does say right to bear arms. No mention of guns however.
Where does my right to bear “arms” end ?
A bazooka ? A bomb ? A nuclear weapon ?
At the time it was written at best a crack shot could get off three rounds a minute.
THREE
Its not even relevant to today.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
2:16 pm
“The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting. The 2nd is about citizens having the right to arm themselves for protection and to defend the nation. That would include threats from within as when Progressives try to take the guns.”
Yeah, well I have heard a law professor say that the majority of law schools do not require study of the Constitution itself in constitutional law specialties (perhaps that is why Obama has publicly confused it with the DoI). You don’t have to have a JD to see the truth of what you are saying, JR.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:17 pm
Oops
WOLVERINES!
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:18 pm
Joe mama,
That bar used in the terminator would be a great conversation piece.
I thought about something like little spikes or nails planted in wood and covered up by something like pine straw. But like you said someone’s kid or dog or whatever could get hurt going after an errant ball and a suit then be incurred. Plus I would rather lose my property than have a kid or dog get hurt. Its just crap that I can replace.
Interesting story. I saw a news report years back about some poor business owner who owned a store in Overtown/Liberty City in Miami. The guy had had his business burglarized something crazy like 8 times in 6 months. He was an old grunt in Nam and had set up a booby trap and the burglar got all messed up. The guy got sued of course and the burglar won I think. On top of that his complaint was that as a black bidness man in a bad part of town he got very late response times from the police on the burglaries and so the burglars were never getting caught in spite of an alarm system that would go off. The guy just couldn’t win.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
2:21 pm
The 2nd is about citizens having the right to arm themselves for protection and to defend the nation.
Laughable
We have a well funded military for that.
Bottom line you are much much safer statistically with no guns in your house than with one.
Guess which homes have most of the gun violence and gun related fatalities.
The ones with guns in them.
If guns made you safer America would be the safest place on the planet.
It isnt.
Its the guns stupid.
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
2:23 pm
Cheesy Grits “Where does my right to bear “arms” end ?”
I think Taxpayer came up with the solution at 2:14.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:23 pm
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
2:16 pm
“The constitution does say right to bear arms. No mention of guns however.
Where does my right to bear “arms” end ?
A bazooka ? A bomb ? A nuclear weapon ?”
Well cheesy grits. What do you think the framers were talking about? There weren’t any nukes back then. No bazookas. Not sure but I don’t think shrapnel exploding ordnance had yet been invented by then. Stinger missiles weren’t around. Pistols and rifles were. So just what the hell kinda arms do you think they were talking about? Jeez. God help us from people like cheesy.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:24 pm
Towncrier: I have said as much. Let’s start with pornography and public profanity. Then talk to me about guns.
And what do pornography and public profanity have to do with public safety?
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
2:25 pm
What do you think the framers were talking about?
A sword or a gun capable of firing at best 2 or 3 rounds a minute.
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
2:25 pm
“Its the guns stupid.”
We need to get rid of those Red Ryders before they put anymore kid’s eyes out!
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
2:26 pm
“Its the guns stupid.”
Another example, ladies and gentlemen of the Left trying to excuse the absence of personal responsibility by blaming violence on an inantimate object.
I’m not sure of the exact statistics, but there are many more deaths each year from a variety of human operated objects than guns. Does the Left intend to ban all of them? Will they start with automobiles, or is that something they “like” and see as a benefit to themselves?
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:26 pm
JohnnyReb: The 2nd is about citizens having the right to arm themselves for protection and to defend the nation.
Correct. In a well regulated militia, no less.
That would include threats from within as when Progressives try to take the guns.
NOT Correct. It is for foreign invasion purposes. Not to defy your representative government.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
2:26 pm
“Well cheesy grits. What do you think the framers were talking about? There weren’t any nukes back then. No bazookas. Not sure but I don’t think shrapnel exploding ordnance had yet been invented by then. Stinger missiles weren’t around. Pistols and rifles were. So just what the hell kinda arms do you think they were talking about? Jeez. God help us from people like cheesy.”
Mr Doom agrees: the secodn amendment gives us the right to keep and bear musketry. No handguns except flintlocks, right?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:27 pm
I’m not sure of the statistics, but there is a possibility that I will be the starting quarterback in the Superbowl.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
2:27 pm
Nothing can be done that is practical to prevent another school shooting….can’t take away guns, can’t stop bullet manufacturing, mental health options won’t work, and more restrictive gun permits will not work..we know from first hand experience that armed school guards don’t work..
No such thing as high-velocity culture change…Politicians just need to be seen trying to do something to cover their butts and will likely pass something but I can’t see that preventing further obscene incidents..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
2:28 pm
Actually the Heller decision addressed the stupidity of the “tyranny” claim in dictum. While acknowledging the so-called “tyranny” justification the opinion noted that there is nothing in the 2d amendment that says that the govt has to allow “equality” in weaponry. In simple terms, a musket would suffice to meet that “tyranny” justification.
Frankly anyone who supports the “tyranny” justification is just crazy and should not be allowed to own a gun given the mental conditions.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
2:29 pm
Will they start with automobiles, or is that something they “like” and see as a benefit to themselves?
An automobile has a purpose OTHER than killing someone.
A gun doesn’t.
I know that logic will be lost on you.
Its the guns stupid.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:29 pm
Didn’t he survive after being shot several times in the face and neck?
I’m sure the guy will have a couple of years in prison to think about seeking some revenge…
Yes because the only way to deal with a threat is to make sure that f****r is STONE COLD DEAD
YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!
OR, you could have disabled an attacker and made sure he paid for the crime he committed in the justice system ALSO set up by our Founding Fathers so that there wouldn’t be vigilante justice….
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:29 pm
I’m not sure of the exact statistics, but I believe that Morgan Fairchild will indeed show up for our date tonight.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:30 pm
Frankly anyone who supports the “tyranny” justification is just crazy and should not be allowed to own a gun given the mental conditions.
100% agreed. In all seriousness
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
2:30 pm
Wow Kam, does your girlfriend, Ms. Alabama, approve?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
2:30 pm
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
2:26 pm
Doesn’t matter a bit. Like taking away guns is realistic.
Perhaps improving technology for perimeter security systems…many options there but there are still malls, movie theatres, sports events…
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:31 pm
Frankly anyone who supports the “tyranny” justification is just crazy and should not be allowed to own a gun given the mental conditions.
OR:
Their paranoid fear of a possible dystopic future prevents us from addressing our ACTUAL dystopic present. We can’t even begin to address 30,000 gun deaths that are actually, in reality, happening in this country every year because a few of us must remain vigilant against the rise of Imaginary Hitler.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
2:31 pm
Well if Drudge is trying to counter the “mainstream/liberal/leftist media” they aren’t doing a good job. Since conservatives love to play the “Fox News is kicking your butt” game, lets play a little “the mainstream/liberal/leftist media is kicking your butt on the internet.
Alexa Top 25 US news sites. Websites with a perceived liberal bias and conservative bias.
2 CNN
3 Huff Post
5 BBC America
6 NY Times
9 Fox News
10 MSNBC (NBC News)
11 The Guardian
15 WSJ
17 Washington Post
19 ABC News
21 Drudge
25 LA Times
The conservative media is getting clobbered on the internet! 9 ‘liberal’ sites, only 3 ‘conservative’ sites.
http://www.alexa.com/topsites/category/Top/News
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
2:32 pm
LETS GET RID OF CARS
more people die from car wrecks than guns
they are just dangerous
everyone should ride bikes and high speed rail
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
2:33 pm
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:30 pm
I hear you and couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately, one mans crazy is another mans sanity…state of art in mental medicine can in no way separate all the crazies from the not so crazies…the smart crazies will subterfuge any measurement system. Big picture, we’d have to go thru years and years of court cases to agree on definition of crazy..even then, if you want a gun, you can find one..
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
2:35 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
2:32 pm
Can you dig a little further to prove that comparing guns to cars has any merit?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:35 pm
Keep
Well if she didn’t before, she does now.
Jm
January 9th, 2013
2:35 pm
“everyone should ride bikes and high speed rail”
that would be bad news for fat peeps
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
2:37 pm
“everyone should ride bikes and high speed rail”
There you go getting them started on something else. It won’t be ten posts before a Leftie complains there are no high speed rails and everyone should be contributing their hard earned wages to build them.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 9th, 2013
2:38 pm
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
2:31 pm
That’s what I see as well…but don’t try to make that argument here…FOXNEWSFOXNEWSFOXNEWS….RUSHRUSHRUSH…you’d think those two dimwitted outlets got 80% of the viewership..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
2:38 pm
Yep people die in car wrecks. We regulate speeds, roadway designs, require safety equipment, regulate truck weights, forbid texting while driving, license drivers, have traffic courts, road signals and more.
But…but….guns. Can’t do anything there.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
2:39 pm
1) ban assault weapons
2) ban high capacity magazines
3) mandate that all gun owners take mental and firearms competency tests.
And yes I would be prepared to pry them from their cold dead hands if that is how they wanted to play it…
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:39 pm
The 2nd is about citizens having the right to arm themselves for protection and to defend the nation.
“Laughable
We have a well funded military for that.”- Cheesy grits
Roger that since its the military that protects our neighborhoods.Matter of fact I got a battalion of Rangers standing guard right outside my front door. And a carrier battle group is stationed in my swimming pool. The Air Force has some fighter jets stationed in the back yard.
“Bottom line you are much much safer statistically with no guns in your house than with one.”
Really? Cheesy grits can prove that empirically?
“If guns made you safer America would be the safest place on the planet.
It isnt.”
Maybe not but its one of the safest places on the planet. Certainly much safer than places like Mexico or Russia or most of the 3rd world.
“Its the guns stupid.”- cheesy
No. It would be the people that actually use the guns in a criminal manner dum dum.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
2:39 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year
http://www.quandl.com/society/us-violent-crime#Gun-Related+Statistics,+Current
stop the madness and put GM, Chrysler and Ford out of business………. they are killing our children in the name of union profits
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
2:40 pm
Stevie Ray – the very legislators who are trying to take guns from citizens enjoy the protection of armed guards but publicly state providing armed protection at schools to be ridiculous. Where will the money come from to do that, they state? Yet, they are eager to transfer our wealth to other countries under the carbon credits lie.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 9th, 2013
2:41 pm
The courts have apparently figured out WalMart’s super sneaky strategy of domestic outsourcing (contracting out parts its U.S.-based supply chain to other companies to skirt responsibility for labor infractions), which could produce a host of legal troubles for the nation’s largest company.
A federal judge has ruled that WalMart can be included in the impending warehouse workers’ class-action lawsuit about a plethora of alleged labor abuses, which occurred in a WalMart warehouse in Southern California.
alternet.org
Huzzah!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
2:42 pm
Yet, they are eager to transfer our wealth to other countries under the carbon credits lie
Die New World Order! Wolverines!
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:42 pm
“The conservative media is getting clobbered on the internet! 9 ‘liberal’ sites, only 3 ‘conservative’ sites.”- Danny X
Good. I take it that means the kooks can quit their incessant whining about Fox news.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
January 9th, 2013
2:43 pm
trying to take guns from citizens
No one is trying to take guns from citizens. Wake up, people.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 9th, 2013
2:43 pm
I’m not sure of the exact statistics, but I believe that Morgan Fairchild will indeed show up for our date tonight.
You wouldn’t know what to do with Morgan Fairchild if you woke up and she was buck-nekkid in your bed, you old NC mountain fa-t. I hate bragging.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
2:44 pm
“It won’t be ten posts before a Leftie complains there are no high speed rails and everyone should be contributing their hard earned wages to build them.”
You think Uncle Samantha is a “Leftie”?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:44 pm
No one is trying to take guns from citizens.
That’s not what drudgey says.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
2:45 pm
Doom — “Really? Cheesy grits can prove that empirically?”
Maybe.
Actuaries might actually track that sort of thing. Maybe some insurance companies have rate adjustments tied to whether or not you keep a firearm in the house.
That said, I doubt any insurers would release that data if they had it. From what I understand, insurers tend to be kind of protective and suspicious when it comes to things like proprietary actuarial data and experience tables. But it’s *possible* that one or more insurers actually *could* prove that one way or the other.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
2:45 pm
Letr’s get rid of old age. More people die of old age than just about anything, except guns.
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
2:45 pm
Personallly, I prefer Miss Alabama to Morgan. Plus by now, Morgan is likely to have creases in the wrong places.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:45 pm
You wouldn’t know what to do with Morgan Fairchild if you woke up and she was buck-nekkid in your bed, you old NC mountain fa-t.
What’s not to understand?
Insert tab A into slot B….
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
2:47 pm
“No one is trying to take guns from citizens.”
Yes they are. Registration is one step away from confiscation. If Obama and the whacky idiot broad from California had their way, everyone would have to give up their guns.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
2:47 pm
Kam, most of your fan club already had Head inserted in slot C, so they need directions to find slot B.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
2:48 pm
Fox News is nothing without Karl Rove and their unskewed data.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
2:49 pm
Insert tab A into slot B….
Either I’m easily amused or that is pretty damn funny…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:49 pm
Keep
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
2:50 pm
Registration is one step away from confiscation.
Reb, you are damn lucky that there is no daily quota for allowable idiotic claims…
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
2:50 pm
“YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!
OR, you could have disabled an attacker and made sure he paid for the crime he committed in the justice system ALSO set up by our Founding Fathers so that there wouldn’t be vigilante justice….”
Adam,
This isn’t vigilante justice. This is an intruder inside your home. An intruder who is most likely armed, placing you and your family at their mercy if you don’t have the means to defend them.
Now, if you want to place your hands behind your head and lay face down on the floor and hope they will go away peacefully, that is your business.
Personally, I don’t have that much faith in scum bags who enter other’s homes without permission.
So if you want to make some YeeHaw comment, go right ahead, but chances are you would be the one getting taken advantage of, not me.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
2:51 pm
Cons reply to new knowledge obtained from Kam:
Oooohhhhh! So that’s Slot B!
Oooohhhhh! So THAT Head is Tab A!
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:53 pm
Joe mama,
In terms of pure deaths I’m sure he’s right because of gun suicides and gun violence between family members/friends in the home and also gun accidents where kids get into guns. Of that I have no doubt. Perhaps I should have stated that you’re statistically better off in terms of protection against a burglar or home invader by having a gun in the house.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
2:53 pm
“Registration is one step away from confiscation”
Then we’re a lot closer to having our cars taken away than our guns, right, JReb?
Holy Cow
January 9th, 2013
2:54 pm
When are they coming to confiscate our cars?
I highly doubt many of us have too many cars that re not registered.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
2:55 pm
Republican birth control, or at least one more form.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:56 pm
YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!
“OR, you could have disabled an attacker and made sure he paid for the crime he committed in the justice system ALSO set up by our Founding Fathers so that there wouldn’t be vigilante justice….”
Seems to me the lady did largely disable him with 5 shots to the face.
Holy Cow
January 9th, 2013
2:56 pm
Might not want to let your kids leave the house under any circumstances..
If they have been registered for school, it is only a matter of time before “they” come take them away.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
2:58 pm
And the liberal hits keep on coming:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/01/09/MSNBC-Analyst-Dyson-Obama-Facing-Negrophobia-From-Republicans
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:58 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA: LETS GET RID OF CARS
Your non-argument is addressed here:
“[Do we ban cars] because people get drunk and kill people in cars?”
Jon Stewart: “No, but we do enact stricter blood alcohol limits, raise the drinking age, ramp up enforcement and penalties, and charge bartenders who server drunks and launch huge public awareness campaigns to stigmatize the dangerous behavior in question and we do all those things because it MIGHT just help bring drunk driving rates down, I don’t know, by two thirds in a few decades!”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:59 pm
When a couple gets a wedding license, does that mean the gov’t will confiscate the bride?
the cat
January 9th, 2013
2:59 pm
Why does the NRA get to send their mailings and membership cards postage paid free as a non-profit?
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
2:59 pm
And coming:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/01/09/He%20Fight%20Negros-African-American-Morning-Show-DJ-Compares-Redskins-Coach-to-Django-Salve-Owner
getalife
January 9th, 2013
3:00 pm
You cons are hilarious.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:01 pm
moonbat betty: This isn’t vigilante justice. This is an intruder inside your home. An intruder who is most likely armed, placing you and your family at their mercy if you don’t have the means to defend them.
AND you still have the choice whether to effectively incapacitate them, but leave them alive, OR to kill them, and claim you had no other choice.
THAT is the point I was making.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
January 9th, 2013
3:01 pm
“Executive Order Possible on Guns”
“Biden talked also about taking responsible action. “As the president said, if you’re actions result in only saving one life, they’re worth taking.”
Ah …………………. I would agree Mr. V.P. “if” (”IF”) it’s Constitutional.
By the way, Mr. V.P., how about those computer chip governors for vehicles to restrict a top speed to 65 mph? Think of the “THOUSANDS” of lives that would save especiall involving DUI’s !!!
JohnnyReb
January 9th, 2013
3:01 pm
A friend sent me a photo of Barry and Muuchelle walking down Penn Ave surrounded by no less than 11 gun toting guards either walking and riding. And, you can bet some automatic – note automatic, not semi-automatic – weapons are either under their overcoats and/or in the cars.
Seems the Left is OK with armed guards around Barry, but not for school children. Pathetic their thought process.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:01 pm
IOW, if you kill an intruder in your home when you didn’t HAVE to in order to stop the threat, that’s vigilante justice. Even if the court still won’t lock you up for it.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
3:02 pm
And we wonder why our educational system is in the tank (and has been for decades):
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/south-carolina-teacher-on-leave-for-stomping-on-american-flag-in-front-of-class/
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:03 pm
Scout: By the way, Mr. V.P., how about those computer chip governors for vehicles to restrict a top speed to 65 mph? Think of the “THOUSANDS” of lives that would save especiall involving DUI’s !!!
That’s not a bad opening bid. I recommend a chip that will make sure your car can’t drive over whatever the posted speed limit is. Sounds like a good idea to me.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
3:03 pm
And we wonder why our educational system is in the tank (and has been for decades):
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/south-carolina-teacher-on-leave-for-stomping-on-american-flag-in-front-of-class/
Damn, what an idiot.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
3:04 pm
Here come the Orwellians:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/iowa-lawmaker-calls-for-retroactive-gun-bans-confiscations-of-semi-automatic-weapons/
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
3:05 pm
“And, you can bet some automatic – note automatic, not semi-automatic – weapons are either under their overcoats and/or in the cars.”
And you can bet I will set a record for passing yardage in the playoffs this weekend.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
3:05 pm
Who is Muuchelle? Is that person a new nominee or old college friend?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
3:07 pm
A friend sent me a photo of…
My girlfriend’s hairdresser’s husband has an uncle that used to work with a guy that knows someone who sent me a picture of Alex Morgan
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:07 pm
Yet, they are eager to transfer our wealth to other countries under the carbon credits lie
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its called ANTI-COLONIALISM and Obama is the premier leader of this movement
and its the reason that CHINA AND INDIA have told the LEFTIES of the WEST to shove it
they will not transfer the wealth they are building to other countries that aren’t growing like them
THE IRONY
China and India consider the LEFTIES of the WEST to be Colonial powers trying to confiscate wealth from the high growth countries to keep them powerless
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
3:07 pm
I prefer Miss South Carolina, just because she took a little of the “What did that crazy Georgia Republican say?” attention away from us for a few brief minutes.
“I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps and, uh, I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over HERE in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future, for our children.”
(Btw, Morgan Fairchild, LOL Redneck.)
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
3:08 pm
About that debt:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/337215/fiscal-facts-life-michael-tanner
dbm
January 9th, 2013
3:09 pm
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:06 pm
Driving drunk physically endangers people and is therefore a physical aggression.
Shouting a false warning that could cause a panic physically endangers people and is therefore a physical aggression.
One complication in questions relating to driving is that currently government owns most streets and roads, but they should be privately owned.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
3:10 pm
“And we wonder why our educational system is in the tank (and has been for decades):”
Gosh Towncrier, why does everyone have to be so politically correct?
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 9th, 2013
3:12 pm
HEY LEFTIES
I’VE GOT YOUR CARBON EMISSIONS RIGHT HERE
READ THIS AND WEEP…………. I MEAN CRY FOR JOY……….. WE HAVE SOLVED OUR CARBON PROBLEMS HERE IN THE US
The Associated Press reports that new data from the Energy Information Administration shows that U.S. emissions of carbon dioxide emissions are back down to their 1992 levels:
In a surprising turnaround, the amount of carbon dioxide being released into the atmosphere in the U.S. has fallen dramatically to its lowest level in 20 years, and government officials say the biggest reason is that cheap and plentiful natural gas has led many power plant operators to switch from dirtier-burning coal.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
3:13 pm
“AND you still have the choice whether to effectively incapacitate them, but leave them alive, OR to kill them, and claim you had no other choice.”- Adam
Do you have any idea just how ridiculous you sound?
Jesus H. Christ. This isn’t Rambo or a professional marksman or sniper. This is a frightened lady hiding with her kids in a crawlspace hoping the home invader won’t find them. He agressively searched them out and he did find them. And this frightened little lady unloaded out of fear for herself and her children.
And here you are talking some silly ass liberal theoretical world gobbledeegook nonsense about how she should had a choice to “incapacitate” him. God help us from this sheer idiocy.
Regnad Kcin
January 9th, 2013
3:14 pm
Great news, Uncle Samantha! Thanks for sharing! That’s a good first step.
td
January 9th, 2013
3:14 pm
Yes, our founding fathers were “right wing kooks” because they believed that tyranny of the elected is a threat to this nation and because they believed Americans should have guns for self defense purposes.
“Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense.” John Admas
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” Thomas Jefferson
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun.” Patrick Henry:
Notice here that Henry is talking about our Liberties guaranteed by the Constitution and the only people that could take these liberties away would be the government.
One final thought for you to consider with George Washington’s address to Congress:
“Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty, teeth and keystone under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie wagon and citizens’ firearms are indelibly related. From the hour the pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurrences and tendencies prove that, to ensure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable. Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 and 99/100 percent of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil influence. They deserve a place of honor with all that’s good. When firearms go, all goes. We need them every hour”