Why Ga. has so little to show for being so ‘business friendly’
In November, Georgia was ranked 4th in the nation for its pro-business environment by Site Selection magazine, which specializes in corporate relocations. The Georgia Department of Economic Development was understandably quick to seize on that happy news, giving it prominent play on the department’s website.
Such rankings appear to validate a concerted, decade-long effort by Georgia’s leadership to make the state as business-friendly as possible. Our state and local business tax burden, for example, ranks eighth lowest in the country, according to a 2012 analysis by Ernst & Young. And as Site Selection noted approvingly, the 2012 Legislature continued that effort by eliminating the sales tax on energy used in manufacturing, enhancing tax incentives and “strengthening” open records laws by delaying public release of economic development deals.
When the 2013 Georgia Legislature convenes Monday, it will no doubt attempt to continue that crusade. For example, while state legislators are likely to approve using tax money to help finance a new stadium for the Atlanta Falcons, they could balk at renewing a much-needed hospital tax that will help keep tens of thousands of poor Georgians covered by Medicaid.
You see, using tax money to help the Falcons and the NFL, the most profitable sports league on the planet, is “economic development”, while helping poor families get medical coverage is considered welfare.
The larger question, however, is whether the state’s strategy is achieving its goals. And that in turn depends on what you choose to measure. For example, here is how Site Selection has ranked Georgia’s business climate each year from 2002-2012:
2002: 4th
2003: 7th
2004: 4th
2005: 3rd
2006: 4th
2007: 2nd
2008: 10th
2009: 8th
2010: 6th
2011: 2nd
2012: 4th
For more than a decade, in other words, Georgia has never ranked out of the top 10 for business climate, and over that period it has averaged in the top five. That tells us that year after year, for an extended amount of time, our leaders have succeeded in crafting government policy to produce exactly the kind of regulatory and tax environment that business leaders say they need to produce growth and prosperity. So by that measure it has been a great success.
But what do we have to show for it?
— We have an unemployment rate of 8.5 percent, significantly higher than the 7.8 percent national average and the ninth highest rate in the country, tied with Mississippi. And it is not a short-term phenomenon. Our unemployment rate has exceeded the national average for each of the last 64 months.
— In 2001, Georgia had the 17th highest poverty rate in the country. By 2011 it had the nation’s sixth highest poverty rate. We are slipping and slipping fast.
— In 2001, the state ranked 25th in per capita income and was rising rapidly in that critically important category; today, it ranks 39th in per capita income. In fact, after adjusting for inflation, state per capita income has declined by 3.5 percent since 2001.
To make matters worse, while trying to create a diligently “pro-business” environment, state government has also attempted to shrink the social safety net substantially. In a piece headlined “Georgia’s Hunger Games,” Slate reported last month that thanks to aggressive government efforts to deny benefits, fewer than 7 percent of the 300,000 Georgia households in poverty collect benefits through Temporary Assistance to Needy Families, more commonly known as welfare. Nationally, the comparable number is 27 percent.
Is that punitive approach working? Not so you’d notice. We also have the nation’s fifth highest rate of those without health insurance, and the fourth highest differential between rich and poor.
In other words, there is no sign that pursuit of a narrowly defined “business-friendly” climate has resulted in a more people-friendly climate. And isn’t that the real goal?
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williebkind
January 9th, 2013
1:05 pm
“THERE IS A WAR ON WOMEN!”
Yes there is. It is a war on conservative women with traditional values. The extreme prejudice and discrimination against these ladies is criminal but since the culprits have the lame stream media propagating this hate the conservative ladies have no equal voice in the matter.
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:07 pm
Crazy cons telling others to see a psychiatrist is hilarious.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
1:07 pm
” Or is the difference because Rod Blogojevich was a better governor than Sonny Perdue?”
Sonny Perdue was a better governor than George Ryan (R), (Blogojevich’s predecessor.)
George Ryan is still doing time in prison, Perdue is better because he somehow escaped prosecution.
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:08 pm
“Crazy cons telling others to see a psychiatrist is hilarious.”
Kamchak and I are now cons? WOAH!!!
Adam
January 9th, 2013
1:09 pm
In other news, a man with many guns was found dead by gunshot:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/09/keith-ratliff-fpsrussia-dead_n_2439284.html
Having a gun, even if everyone knows you have it, is not a deterrent.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
1:10 pm
lame stream media
DRINK!
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:10 pm
“What a weirdo…”
Peadawg and his understatements.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
1:12 pm
“It is a war on conservative women with traditional values.”
This war is tragic. Just last month i heard someone forced some birth control down Bristol Palin’s throat.
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:12 pm
drudgey played the hitler card.
They are not coming for your guns cons.
Calm down kooks.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
1:12 pm
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-8-2013/scapegoat-hunter—gun-control
“[Do we ban cars] because people get drunk and kill people in cars?”
Jon Stewart: “No, but we do enact stricter blood alcohol limits, raise the drinking age, ramp up enforcement and penalties, and charge bartenders who server drunks and launch huge public awareness campaigns to stigmatize the dangerous behavior in question and we do all those things because it MIGHT just help bring drunk driving rates down, I don’t know, by two thirds in a few decades!”
“There’s all sorts of stuff you can’t have already: Tanks, F-16 fighter jets, Surface-to-air ANYTHING!”
“Now I see what’s happening. So this is what it is: Their paranoid fear of a possible dystopic future prevents us from addressing our ACTUAL dystopic present. We can’t even begin to address 30,000 gun deaths that are actually, in reality, happening in this country every year because a few of us must remain vigilant against the rise of Imaginary Hitler.”
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:13 pm
“Having a gun, even if everyone knows you have it, is not a deterrent.”
The lady up here in Walton county who pumped 5 shots into a home invasion criminal a couple of days ago disagrees with you.
williebkind
January 9th, 2013
1:13 pm
“Why Ga. has so little to show for being so ‘business friendly’”
ATLANTA —
The National Gay and Lesbian Taskforce has announced that Atlanta will host the 25th National Conference on LGBT Equality.
There’s your sign!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
1:18 pm
Kam, you do seem to attract a fan base who are infatuated with you and follow your every word.
All that bromance just waiting your every post. 
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:19 pm
Keep,
cons are creepy stalkers.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
1:19 pm
““Why Ga. has so little to show for being so ‘business friendly’”
ATLANTA —
The National Gay and Lesbian Taskforce has announced that Atlanta will host the 25th National Conference on LGBT Equality.
There’s your sign!”
———————————
Really williebkind? How many US businesses now offer gay employees full benefits? Almost all? Seems like most businesses display a great big “Gays Welcome Here” sign.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
1:19 pm
Keep
I can get them to piddle a duet.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:21 pm
“We can’t even begin to address 30,000 gun deaths that are actually, in reality, happening in this country every year because a few of us must remain vigilant against the rise of Imaginary Hitler.”
Leave it to Jon Stewart to not only mislead people but to pull a godwin’s law all in one statement. Good thing no one takes a kook left comedian serious as a source of information.
There are 30,000 gun deaths per year but only around 11,000 are homicides. Most of the rest are suicides and if guns weren’t around I’m sure those people could just find a bottle of pills to swallow or a rope to hang from. Jeez. What an idiot.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
1:22 pm
Doom — “The lady up here in Walton county who pumped 5 shots into a home invasion criminal a couple of days ago disagrees with you.”
And she’d be wrong. Her weapon didn’t *deter* the burglar — in fact, he admitted to police that he broke into her house to steal. Her weapon *prevented* the crime, but it was in no way a deterrent.
Now, it might deter *future* burglars if they say to themselves ‘damn, the lady in that place shot Jimmy FIVE TIMES. I ain’t breakin’ in THERE.’
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:22 pm
What is it with getalife and kamspam’s obsession with drudge?
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:24 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
1:18 pm
I’m just trying to help Kamspam with all of his/her obsessions and addictions. It’s out of pity, honestly.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
1:24 pm
“What is it with getalife and kamspam’s obsession with drudge?”
Obsession? Just how many times have you brought it up?
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:24 pm
Pea,
drudgey is a drama queen.
HDB
January 9th, 2013
1:24 pm
williebkind
January 9th, 2013
1:13 pm
“Why Ga. has so little to show for being so ‘business friendly’”
ATLANTA —
The National Gay and Lesbian Taskforce has announced that Atlanta will host the 25th National Conference on LGBT Equality.
There’s your sign!
=======================================================================
Could it be that the state has FINALLY decided to find other businesses to attract rather than to “steal” businesses from other states?
The times….they are a-changin’!!!
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:25 pm
Its true. Doomy do like his toys. When his little jack in the box shows up and pops his goofy little head right out of that box well Doomy has just got to play with his toy for a minute or 2. Its my toy and I’ll play with it if I want to.
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:25 pm
Pea,
Your stalking is creepy.
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
1:25 pm
In other news, apparently Pam “Atlas Jugs” Geller is still not dead.
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:25 pm
doomy,
You act like a two year old.
Grow up son.
Matti
January 9th, 2013
1:26 pm
DannyX @ 1:12,
Well technically, if it’s done that way… Heh… No, I can’t say it. :blush:
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
1:26 pm
Pea, are you seriously not aware of where the “Squirrel!” riff arose?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
1:26 pm
Doom — “and pops his goofy little head right out of that box well Doomy has just got to play with his toy for a minute or 2. Its my toy and I’ll play with it if I want to.”
Ew. I don’t think I’d'a told that.
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:27 pm
Once or twice today, twice earlier this week and last.
I just think it’s funny that they complain about drudge…yet still spam Jay’s blog with posts from drudge and talk about them all the time.
I guess I really should stop feeding the trolls.
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:28 pm
“Pea, are you seriously not aware of where the “Squirrel!” riff arose?” – Same place the smoking cloud and drudgy spam.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
1:29 pm
“Well technically, if it’s done that way… Heh… No, I can’t say it. :blush:”
Very, very funny, Matti!
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:29 pm
same place as*
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:32 pm
“Your stalking is creepy.” – So is Kamspam’s stalking of drudge.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
1:32 pm
Same place the smoking cloud and drudgy spam.
Making me wince once again with my association with UGA.
Deductive reasoning has left that once credible institution leaving us with the likes of this.
td
January 9th, 2013
1:34 pm
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:24 pm
Pea,
drudgey is a drama queen.
Or could it be that Drudge actually brings the not so complimentary issues to light about the left that the lame stream media refuses to cover and you committed leftest hate it?
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
1:35 pm
Same place the smoking cloud and drudgy spam.
Ah. That must have been in the director’s cut of the movie.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:36 pm
“Or could it be that Drudge actually brings the not so complimentary issues to light about the left that the lame stream media refuses to cover and you committed leftest hate it?”
Did Drudge also post that over sampling polling LIE that you bit into; hook, line and sinker and was citing all over the AJC blogs?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
1:36 pm
lame stream media
*Drink*
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:37 pm
td,
Showing a picture of hitler and stalin on guns is a drama queen.
He totally disrespects the office of the President.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:37 pm
Joe Mama,
Good point. I did read something interesting a few years back that once Kennesaw enacted its mandatory gun ordinance that burglary rates dropped precipitously. Don’t know if its true or not but I’ve heard it touted several times that Kennesaw has the lowest or one of the lowest burglary rates in the nation after passing that law.
Deterrance does work in my view. Its just common sense imo. If you know that someone is armed you’re not going to go there. If you know the odds are good that someone or their home is unarmed you are much more apt to go there.
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:38 pm
Oh god…now Kamspam has a alcohol addiction.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
1:39 pm
Or could it be that Drudge actually brings the not so complimentary issues to light about the left that the lame stream media refuses to cover and you committed leftest hate it?
Yeah surrreeeee, that’s it. Unskewed reporting….or maybe skewed wingnut right reporting?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
1:40 pm
td — “Or could it be that Drudge actually brings the not so complimentary issues to light about the left that the lame stream media refuses to cover and you committed leftest hate it?”
Drudge doesn’t actually bring anything to light because he doesn’t do any actual reportage. He’s an aggregator, which means that he takes *other* people’s stories and uses them to fill his website.
In that way, even Breitbart is superior to Drudge. And saying that *Breitbart* is superior to anything is quite a putdown. It’s as if Breitbart was raw sewage and Drudge was, oh, let’s say a giant walking Ebola virus, merrily infecting anyone who came near.
td
January 9th, 2013
1:42 pm
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:37 pm
td,
Showing a picture of hitler and stalin on guns is a drama queen.
He totally disrespects the office of the President.
When the VP talks about the President is considering executive order for gun control then it is very appropriate for the thought of Hitler and Stalin to be shown.
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
1:43 pm
“Or could it be that Drudge actually brings the not so complimentary issues to light about the left that the lame stream media refuses to cover and you committed leftest hate it?”
td, hate it? I think we love to mock it, that should be obvious. It should also be obvious that you got a lot of your election information from Drudge.
“LANDSLIDE WATCH…Romney up in OH, VA, MI, WI, PA, NC, CO and FL”
Good times, good times.
You will have to pry Drudge mocking from my cold, dead, typing hand!
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:44 pm
I think crazy cons looking at a picture of hitler and stalin on a story about guns will cause the cons to go off and do something stupid.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
1:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w0FGGIpDME
td
January 9th, 2013
1:45 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 9th, 2013
1:39 pm
Or maybe it is the one point where Conservatives can come and see what the leftest media is not reporting?
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:45 pm
Danny X
td didn’t need Drudge for his election projections. He stated once that with the “incorrect sampling data” being used by the pollsters, Romney could be up by as much as 10 pts.
bwhahhahahahahahahahahaahah
He actually believed that crap.
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:46 pm
“When the VP talks about the President is considering executive order for gun control then it is very appropriate for the thought of Hitler and Stalin to be shown.”
Do you think President Obama will take your guns con?
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
1:46 pm
http://calibergroup.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/canspamgraphic.jpg
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:46 pm
“Or maybe it is the one point where Conservatives can come and see what the leftest media is not reporting?”
yeah, the “main stream” media surely missed that “over sampling” STORY(LIE)
Doggone/GA
January 9th, 2013
1:47 pm
“He stated once that with the “incorrect sampling data” being used by the pollsters, Romney could be up by as much as 10 pts.”
Worded that way…he could actually be correct. Just think, if they had “correctly” polled many more R’s than D’s…Romney could have been up by a LOT more than just 10 pts!
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
1:47 pm
“LANDSLIDE WATCH…Romney up in OH, VA, MI, WI, PA, NC, CO and FL”
That was awesome.
And should be a lesson but it will be lost on the Cons.
The people they get their news from. Dead wrong. I mean way way off.
The New York Times, Nate Silver and the lame stream media. Totally nailed it.
Its like that everyday we just dont have an election everyday where they actually do a count and you can point to a number they cant spin or dispute.
dbm
January 9th, 2013
1:47 pm
Adam
January 9th, 2013
8:04 am
Government should not be in the business of being pro- or anti- anyone or anything, except pro individual rights and anti direct or indirect physical aggression.
td
January 9th, 2013
1:47 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
1:40 pm
Drudge is a media outlet that allows the reader to come and take a quick glance at what other conservative news reporting agencies think is important on any given day. He also does a good job of reporting any conservative stories from lib outlets. What is wrong with that?
DannyX
January 9th, 2013
1:48 pm
“Or maybe it is the one point where Conservatives can come and see what the leftest media is not reporting?”
Do you drink for ‘leftist media’ too? Where’s Towncrier with the blog rulebook?
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
1:49 pm
“Yeah surrreeeee, that’s it. Unskewed reporting….or maybe skewed wingnut right reporting?”
Says the followers who get their news from an opinion writer of the ajc.
LOL!
Liberals say the darndest things!
stands for decibels
January 9th, 2013
1:49 pm
For those unwilling to give the sick closet case a click-through:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/01/09/drudge-links-potential-obama-executive-order-on/192118
Pretty disgusting, even for Mattie-with-the-spunk-stained-hattie.
dbm
January 9th, 2013
1:50 pm
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
8:15 am
To what extent are they being greedy, to what extent are they waiting for government and its effects to become somewhat more predictable, and to what extent are they still adjusting to the changes government has already made?
td
January 9th, 2013
1:50 pm
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:46 pm
“Or maybe it is the one point where Conservatives can come and see what the leftest media is not reporting?”
yeah, the “main stream” media surely missed that “over sampling” STORY(LIE)
You are still stalking me. I do not swing that way dude so you can give it up because you ain’t gettin any from this blogger.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
1:50 pm
Doom — “Good point. I did read something interesting a few years back that once Kennesaw enacted its mandatory gun ordinance that burglary rates dropped precipitously. Don’t know if its true or not but I’ve heard it touted several times that Kennesaw has the lowest or one of the lowest burglary rates in the nation after passing that law.”
I did see a study some years ago that supported the contention that burglary rates would drop in Kennesaw (they did), but burglary rates in *other* nearby communities went *up.*. I can’t recall if the aggregate number of burglaries for the survey area was roughly the same (e.g. the same amount, just fewer around Kennesaw and more in the towns surrounding it) or not.
“Deterrance does work in my view. Its just common sense imo. If you know that someone is armed you’re not going to go there.”
Agreed. As I said, if a burglar knows that the lady in that house has a revolver, knows how to use it and went five-for-six on her last burglar, he’s very unlikely to pick her house for his thieving.
“If you know the odds are good that someone or their home is unarmed you are much more apt to go there.”
I think it was a week or two ago that I mentioned visiting my best friend Mikey out in Phoenix some years ago. His favorite gun store will *rent* weapons (you just pay for the ammo you use plus the rental fee) if you want to pop a few shots on a weapon you don’t own but maybe always wanted. Anyhow, as we were leaving, I noticed a pile of realty-agent-style signs near the door, which read — in large, bold letters — “ARMED RESPONSE.” A clerk told me that they were steady sellers.
Mikey preferred a much lower-tech method: he just planted cholla cactus right in front of most of the windows of his house. The variety he planted have NASTY barbed spines and are a bitch to get out of your skin if you get stuck. Hope his house never catches on fire such that he needs to get out through a window.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylindropuntia
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:50 pm
Doomy’s house casino has set the daily odds of the over/under on drudgeyspam at 10 1/2 for the day. The over under on the following kamspams are as follows- there’s your sign at 8 1/2, smoking gun in the mushroom cloud at 3 1/2. The numbers are low because the repetitive post bunny got off to a slow start today.
For wiring instructions, payouts, and bonuses send funds to Doomy’s 2 offshore accounts. Like Romney and tens of millions of Americans who have mutual funds invested in foreign stocks Doomy is un American by having offshore accounts or monies invested overseas. KD Unlike Romney Doomy just has chicken change under $1,000 in his 2 offshore accounts.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:50 pm
Drudge does have links from all over. I grant him that.
His incendiary head lines that many times do not really meet the jest of the story he is linking is nothing more than raw meat for his followers
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:50 pm
“What is wrong with that?”
Nothing, if it was true.
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
1:51 pm
SeeBS rawks, dudes!
the cat
January 9th, 2013
1:51 pm
td must have gotten a subscription to drudge for christmas
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:51 pm
drudgey is where the cons read the news.
Most of it turns out to be bs.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:51 pm
td
Just calling out your bs. If you can’t handle it. Take it up with the AJC and Bookman.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
1:52 pm
“Drudge is a media outlet that allows the reader to come and take a quick glance at what other conservative news reporting agencies think is important on any given day. He also does a good job of reporting any conservative stories from lib outlets. What is wrong with that?”
It is a pure news aggregation site, but it leans conservative, is very influential and runs counter to the liberal “narrative” you find in a lot of other media sites. So it is hated and belittled by many liberals. It is viewed perhaps in the same way conservative talk shows have been viewed.
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
1:52 pm
I’ll check out Drudge just to see the headline pictures.
Hilarious!
td
January 9th, 2013
1:53 pm
getalife
January 9th, 2013
1:46 pm
“When the VP talks about the President is considering executive order for gun control then it is very appropriate for the thought of Hitler and Stalin to be shown.”
Do you think President Obama will take your guns con?
If he thought he could get away with it then yes he would. He is already talking about wanting one of my guns and few of my magazines.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
1:54 pm
td — “Drudge is a media outlet that allows the reader to come and take a quick glance at what other conservative news reporting agencies think is important on any given day.”
In other words, he’s an aggregator. I’m pretty sure I said that already.
“He also does a good job of reporting any conservative stories from lib outlets.”
Again, aggregator.
“What is wrong with that?”
Y’all cite Drudge, but none of the reporting is *his.* Consequently, you’re not giving credit to the actual *source* of the story.
There’s a big difference in a story from, say, Newsweek and the same story from ArtBell.com or Carnicom or chemtrails.com or one of the REAL wingnut space-alien sites like that.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:55 pm
Joe mama,
Well its another rare day of agreement between you and I. We’ll have to find something to argue about sooner or later.
That’s freaking hilarious about your buddy with the cholly cactus. I love that idea. I may have to check into that for my mom. She loves cactuses anyway and I’ve bought her cactuses before. Would love to see the look on a burglar’s fact after immersing himself in cactus spines.
Thomas
January 9th, 2013
1:56 pm
Blogs should be first be severly taxed and then outlawed. Blogs lead to one person picking on the other which leads to depression, anxiety, and physical violence. If you care at all about your family and fellow Americans you call your local Congressman/woman and say blogs should be outlawed.
If you don’t do this you are definitely and uncaring person.
TaxPayer
January 9th, 2013
1:56 pm
I guess that weapons aficionado up in NE Georgia shoulda learned about helmets too.
td
January 9th, 2013
1:57 pm
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:51 pm
td
Just calling out your bs. If you can’t handle it. Take it up with the AJC and Bookman.
Bookman and the AJC does not have a problem with you being on the down low and stalking people on the blogs. If I was a women then they would stop your stalking but that is because they are a lib rag.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 9th, 2013
1:58 pm
Where in the constitution does it say anyone has the right to own a gun anyway ?
The one Ive read says right to bear ARMS. Doesn’t say anything about guns.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
1:58 pm
“There’s a big difference in a story from, say, Newsweek and the same story from ArtBell.com or Carnicom or chemtrails.com or one of the REAL wingnut space-alien sites like that.”
Joe Mama,
Careful. You’re liable to up and offend Soothsayer with that comment about space-alien sites.
TBS
January 9th, 2013
1:59 pm
blah, blah, blah
Is that all you do?
Getting mad and crying about your bs and lies being called out is your problem, not mine.
have a tissue
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
1:59 pm
The obsession continues.
Pavlovian….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFx-5PGLgb4
Peadawg
January 9th, 2013
2:01 pm
Once again – http://calibergroup.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/canspamgraphic.jpg
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:01 pm
I’m going to have to check out this drudge site and see what the hell all the hubub is about. If it drives the libs nuts its gotta be good.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
2:01 pm
Ah…I see the cause for all of the discussion about the Drudge site. Drudge’s headlines are not infrequently like those found in tabloids (and a number of left-leaning sites as well, to be fair). You kind of have to ignore them. Plus, I think Drudge’s influence is such that people like Obama who want to possibly abuse his office that he can make Obama think long and hard about doing so. Two executive orders have been stuck down by the courts and it is hard to think what Obama could do about guns via an executive order without a court challenge. It is really a dumb idea, IMO.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:03 pm
dB
The first comment on the MMA linkie:
Again, Sinclair Lewis, in America, “Fascism will come wrapped in a flag carrying a bible” he just forgot to include the Bushmaster…
Heh, heh, heh.
td
January 9th, 2013
2:03 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
1:54 pm
Thanks for the big ole belly laugh. “Aggregator” for any story or site that puts together Conservative sources of the news and an omission of what you think of those leftest outlets that are 10 times more numerous then drudge. I guess you consider the NY Time and WaPost as truly accurate reports of the “real” news.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:03 pm
Thulsa: Leave it to Jon Stewart to not only mislead people but to pull a godwin’s law all in one statement.
That means you didn’t watch the segment.
He showed several clips of people mentioning Hitler and Stalin to PROVE that everyone is going to have their guns taken away. Because history proves dictators always follow gun control, or something.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:04 pm
td: lame stream media
DRINK!!!
moonbat betty
January 9th, 2013
2:04 pm
Hey Kam,
Do the SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS read Drudge?
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:04 pm
“The one Ive read says right to bear ARMS. Doesn’t say anything about guns.”- cheesy grits.
WOW!!!! You can’t make this stuff up. Hot damn now THAT is fun-knee.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
2:05 pm
Doom — “That’s freaking hilarious about your buddy with the cholly cactus. I love that idea. I may have to check into that for my mom. She loves cactuses anyway and I’ve bought her cactuses before. Would love to see the look on a burglar’s fact after immersing himself in cactus spines.”
Mikey is a professional commercial artist (working mostly on advertising), so he’s got a lot of expensive computer equipment in his house, plus a lot of artwork and movie memorabilia (he owns the iron bar that Ah-nuld used to beat the snot out of the T-1000 in Terminator 2 — it’s actually made of wood). Some people out there put up bars on their windows, but artist Mikey just couldn’t bring himself to do that. One of his co-workers suggested planting cactus, and after a little research, he settled on cholla.
He uses his patio as an outdoor workshop, and he built a wall around it. He thought about cementing broken glass chunks at the top of the wall as a nasty surprise for any burglars trying to get in that way, but he figured if any neighbor kids got hurt going over the wall to get an errant baseball or Frisbee, he might get sued.
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:06 pm
dbm: Government should not be in the business of being pro- or anti- anyone or anything, except pro individual rights and anti direct or indirect physical aggression.
How about pro public safety? Or are you against speed limits, restrictions that limit the possibility someone will drive drunk, and not being able to yell “fire” in a crowded theater?
Adam
January 9th, 2013
2:07 pm
td: If he thought he could get away with it then yes he would. He is already talking about wanting one of my guns and few of my magazines.
He is talking about restricting FUTURE acquirement, dude.
Thulsa Doom
January 9th, 2013
2:07 pm
“That means you didn’t watch the segment”
No. I didn’t. Why would I watch an assclown like Jon Stewart. He’s not news. He’s just kook left tripe.
Towncrier
January 9th, 2013
2:07 pm
“The one Ive read says right to bear ARMS. Doesn’t say anything about guns.”
Yes. And sadly, the verb was misspelled and the error was never corrected. It should be “bare” arms.
JamVet
January 9th, 2013
2:07 pm
It is a war on conservative women…
Serves the sluts, prostitutes and FemiNazis right. You’ve done a damn poor job of keeping them in line, willie.
I can’t even begin to count the millions of babies that Republican women have murdered.
And td wants to execute them.
Right after he is done hanging John Kerry…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 9th, 2013
2:07 pm
Do the SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS read Drudge?
I dunno.
Why don’t you ask them yourself?
http://www.scv.org/contactInfo.php
Joe Hussein Mama
January 9th, 2013
2:07 pm
Doom — “Careful. You’re liable to up and offend Soothsayer with that comment about space-alien sites.”
Man, my wife was all over those sites in the runup to Y2K. You wouldn’t believe some of the crazy crap some of those people believed.
Like that reptilian alien shapechangers had already infitrated Earth governments and were waiting for the Y2K disaster to strike so that they could unmask and take control.
I am NOT making this up.