2012 shatters heat records for continental U.S.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/01/05/watch-what-might-be-the-worlds-oldest-dashcam-footage-from-1926/

Please note amount of snow in 1926 dashcam video. At the end of April.

Fun to watch.

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But yes, there are Republicans who believe there’s no global warming going on. They are the same ones who believe like Rush Limbaugh that the world is flat and the sun revolves around the earth. Science? Too complicated to comprehend for their limited attention spans. And get this … these people vote! No wonder Congress is so screwed up!

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If you miss the record heat from last summer, head on down to Australia, they are burning up, literally.

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Peadawg. 1926 dashcam. No lie.

Fracking. Good for reducing global warming.

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First, let me state that I am sure global warming is a real phenomenon, and is likely exacerbated by human activity.

That said, this is as close as Jay’s ever come to “drudgy spam” as I’ve ever seen.

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Again…1926? What does that have to do with 2013? Way to stay on topic.

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Obama. Not a leader.

http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/508841/dear-mr-president-time-to-deal-with-climate-change/

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“Jay should be excited about Southern Company’s two new nuclear units at Plant Vogtle.”

Why should Jay be excited about the Southern Company’s new nuclear power project? They have been a disaster from the start and are already 1 billion dollars over budget, wow, who didn’t see that coming! Georgia Republicans created a perverted socialist financing plan to pay for it.

These power plants are way over the head of Republicans.

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get

I am in favor of taxing things that are bad to provide revenue for government, that we need.

Taxing CO2, cigarettes, consumption, waste = good.

Taxing work, saving, trade = bad.

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Record high temps in USA? Global warming is the reason.
Coldest winter in decades in China? Global warming is the reason too!

And they wonder why there are skeptics.

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Support wind and solar energy!

Break the fossil fuel addiction.

Yes to the carbon tax!

No Nukes!

No fracking!

Love your planet as you want to be loved……

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“I guess if I were canada, global warming might be a plus…”

The new northwest passage will be an economic boon for Canada.

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Dawg Dad

Best get some P50,000 sunscreen and water wings for your puppies.

That is if you love your kids enough to help.

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JAY

OK, let’s have a real look at practical perspectives on the whole manmade global catastrophe we will alledgedly experience in 50-100 years.

Basically we have a “science” that has been around for a few decades or so, who have questionable incentives, making predictions we should expect over a decade or so..

Just for fun…

http://fabiusmaximus.com/2012/02/03/34885/

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“And they wonder why there are skeptics.”

Most all of the skeptics are at unskewedglobalwarming.com

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Lord, that was a nasty trick making so many of the Georgia natives dumb as rocks. What did they ever do to you?

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Support wind and solar energy!

No fracking!

Why don’t we just go ahead and kiss a few trees while we’re at it? Love me, Love my tree!

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Let’s do a simple analysis.

If global warming is real and we enact regulations to reduce carbon emissions, everyone benefits.
If global warming is real and we do nothing, catastrophe.
If global warming is bogus and we enact regulations to reduce carbon emissions, cleaner air anyway.

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“Of course, if you’ve got your head buried in the sand — or your eyes and ears fixed to Fox News — you probably STILL haven’t noticed what has become so glaringly apparent.”

Of course, if you’re a columnist for a traditionally liberal newspaper of secondary significance, you probably would bet your children’s lives on the “consensus” that the recent global warming is mostly anthropogenic and would therefore be willing to spend or forfeit trillions of dollars to reduce CO2 emissions despite the reasonable questioning of people just next door (in Georgia Tech):

http://judithcurry.com/2012/10/28/climate-change-no-consensus-on-consensus/

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Funny how with every other science known to man, skepticism is a necessary and fundamental part of a scientific process. The real question is: why do so many people (liberals) think that this infant science should be beyond any skepticism? If anything, it deserves materially more skepticism than other established science.

Could it be that any talking point coming from the left is a worthy point above suspicion and skepticism?

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keep poking mother earth in the eye with a stick
and she’s gonna bite you.

If we don’t develop a sustainable longterm system, instead of this
chewing through billions of years of resources for short term
wealth accumulation for a few right now, that will be our fate. word.

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The right makes things go away by just saying that is not true. Like Alex Hawkins that is my story and I’m sticking with it. The polls were lying; Romney was ahead, until someone counted the real vote. The created a whole television network so they wouldn’t have to hear the truth. The gun violence is only in the urban areas and America is about the same rurally as Europe. Cigarettes don’t cause cancer and global warming is a bunch of eggheads with nothing else to do. It would be humorous if it wasn’t so serious, like the dog is housetrained about the time it shows it is not. The right rather be right, and die, than right and save the world. It is all egos with them, and once they have made a statement or have an opinion it should never change. Thank God the rest of the world is not the same; we would still be in caves.

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With all the hot air produced during the recently completed election, it’s no wonder.

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“If anything, it deserves materially more skepticism than other established science”

Agree. What evidence do you want to offer to modify existing theory?

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GT

January 8th, 2013
2:39 pm

Baaa Baaaa blue sheep. So you believe this 2 decades old science making projections for the latter half of the next century and further are convinced that is should not be subject to scrutiny?

Just damn..

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I guess our climate is not the only thing setting records:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/planned-parenthood-reports-record-year-for-abortions/article/2517801#.UOx17-TAd2B

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“The real question is: why do so many people (liberals) think that this infant science should be beyond any skepticism?”

Beats me….maybe because that would be “politically incorrect”?

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How much heat is being generated by all you liberals computers? Shouldn’t you shut down if you care so much?

Just sayin’…

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Well, big oil spent big on scientists and energy voter commercials so I factor in this fact when listening to the right.

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Wow:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-beach/fl-fau-prof-newtown-20130107,0,4267958.story

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Obviously I should have made my observation about those having college degrees or not on this blog. The stupid-it burns.

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if you’ve got your head buried in the sand

looks like a lot of your regulars do, per usual, Jay.

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Joe Hussein Mama

January 8th, 2013
2:44 pm

Do you have any idea how much the big consulting firms (ie the current Accenture formerly anderson consulting, deloitte and other CPA firms and forensic tech firms) made on the work such that you did?

I usually follow the incentives…correct answer 100% of the time.

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Towncrier

January 8th, 2013
2:48 pm

Just amazing…

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Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am… what is your world like? What do you see in your perfect world and what are you doing to get there or are you in it now?

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“You probably will now push to take TV’s away from certain folks.”

Guy, its called tough love. Would you feed an alcoholic liquor? Would you supply meth to a meth addict? We should take away tv’s from those watching Fox News. Watching Fox News is now as a certified mental disorder. Fox News can cause birth defects. Have you ever looked at before and after pictures of Fox News watchers? Its very sad, the longer a person has watched the more their faces age, they start losing teeth, their hair falls out. It would be wrong to let them keep their tv’s. Pull the plug on Fox News watchers.

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Gore got paid.

Wealth envy?

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Anyone want to quit with the conspiracy theory bashing and the blame game (on both sides) and take stock in the fact that historical US weather patterns are not today what they were 164 years ago and they will continue to change over time? The oceans are rising. There is evidence of that. The ice caps are melting. There is evidence of that. Precipitation patterns are changing. There is evidence of that. Kim Kardashian is having a baby. There is evidence of that. Honey Booboo is fat. There is evidence of that. Smokestacks belch out poisons into the air we breath. There is evidence of that.
Can weather change be stopped? Who knows. Can we prepare for it? Certainly. But it’s going to be costly.

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guy,

Fred got under your skin?

Stalker much?

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Well, I come on this blog hoping to learn something. The only thing I learned is, I better get the AC checked out before spring. I wouldn’t want old Ace and the missus to get too hot while I’m driving around in my air conditioned beer truck.

I guess the wild-haired radicals on this blog will read everything and run around talking about global warming and how we got to get back to the Stone Age way of doing things and such. My advise to them is to strip buck-nekkid tonight and run around outside to see how warm they get.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

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As a former meteorologist, I studied weather cycles and this so called ‘global warming’ threat. It is just another way for the govt to scare the bejesus out of the gullible,

Well, as a former Sports Illustrated Swim Suit model, I’ve studied people who’ve studied weather cycles and they’re so called “government threats” are made just so that I won’t tan in my new french bikini.

Just another way for the “weather people” to keep the teeny weeny bikini wearing models down!

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Oddly, the cons still think rw media are credible.

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All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others:

“http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/337035/guns-me-not-thee-john-fund”

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Kamspam

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common,

brent got creepy looking at her.

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peapuppy piddle

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First the squirrel and now Kam trolls Jay’s blog with drudge links all day.

So sad.

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get

Yep, all he needed was a trenchcoat

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The weather is constantly changing….history is full of ice-ages, warmer times, etc. If all plants close down today, no fires are built, and everyone is in the dark it probably would not affect the weather noticibly. And on top of that, the very idea of making Al Gore (”lock-bokth”…yes, that is how the lisping fumble lip pronounced “lock-box”) relevant is enough for me to turn away…but seriously folks……….

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Yeah, the Heat were pretty good in 2012, winning the NBA title and all that.

Whoops, wrong Heat.

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We need an alternative to corporate media lies so I read Al Jazerra on the ME.

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Regnad Kcin

January 8th, 2013
3:06 pm

“IF Al Gore had one ounce of credibility, he lost it by selling his station to the ARabs”

This must be some conservative meme you would get if you listen to Rush…

Typical response by one of the Bookmanbots…

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““IF Al Gore had one ounce of credibility, he lost it by selling his station to the ARabs””

Did the Saudi who owns all of that News Corp (Fox News) stock buy Current?

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“Some guys will take some middle ground and say “well wouldn’t it make sense to reduce these emissions anyway?”

I would be surprised if many people were opposed to inexpensive methods of reducing CO2 emissions. Just as long as we are not “betting the farm” on a belief that is not yet unequivocally proven.

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JHM

Don’t get me started on the Arthur Androids and their ages LOL (I had shoes their age at the time)

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And what were the averages for the other continents during the same period? I seem to recall Europe had a rather harsh winter last year. Gotta look at the entire elephant to get the total picture.

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DIA — “Typical response by one of the Bookmanbots…”

So is it selling something to the Ay-rabs that makes one lose credibility? ‘Cause we’ve sold ‘em lots and lots of fighter jets and AWACS planes. Therefore, the US and the Presidents and lawmakers who agreed to those deals are likewise without credibility, right?

Right?

Or is it just when a liberal sells them something?

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I cringed when brent got creepy
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Yep, he even gives us dirty old men a bad name

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This is how Hollywood told me to think:
Sheryl Crow demanded that we all use one square of toilet paper per bathroom visit to help save the planet. Her touring requirements, include three tractor trailers, four buses and six cars. John Travolta told everyone to “do their bit” to fight global warming, warning that “We have to think about alternative methods of fuel.” He has 5 private jets that has produced an estimated 800 tons of carbon emissions just last year, 100 times more than the average. Al Gore is the messiah for the climate change. Gore’s 20 room private mansion uses 20 times the national U.S. average of gas and electricity, as Gore lavishes himself in his heated swimming pool while poor people and the middle class await the onslaught of carbon taxes to eviscerate any disposable income they have left. Madonna, owns at least 6 gas-guzzling cars including a Mercedes Maybach, two Range Rovers, Audi A8s and a Mini Cooper S. Last year “Madonna flew as many as 100 technicians, dancers, backing singers, managers and family members on a 56-date world tour in private jets and commercial airliners.” The singer’s Confessions tour produced 440 tonnes of CO2 in four months. Red Hot Chili Peppers, use private jets, yet are set to throw their stardom behind an effort to propagandize the notion that we are producing too many carbon emissions. If you still believe in the notion of man-made global warming, then you should be very concerned about the fact that the leading proponents of the theory are all giant hypocrites espousing outlandish and radical measures to combat climate change while fearmongering about doomsday scenarios that will befall us unless we all drastically reduce our carbon footprints, while their own carbon footprints dwarf the average person’s by a hundred times or more.

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President Clinton urged big investors to invest in green energy after the Internet bubble collapsed but they chose housing instead and it collapsed the global economy.

Green energy is good for our planet and jobs.

It is a win win.

It’s a no brainer so the cons are against it.

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I cringed when brent got creepy

I bet Kirk also had some ’splainin to do when he got home.

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Shemp Hannity (sp?) says you are wrong Jay:

Snow.

See how easy that was? And you pretend to be so open-minded and all…

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S. Ray — “I think the incentives were on the revenue side of the accountants. Without “adequate” evaluation, they refused to sign off on financials in many cases.”

I didn’t deal much with the consultants who did financial auditing. Most of the people I worked with were either IT or were ‘financial engineers,’ who helped ensure that financial data flow was accurate and appropriate and that internal controls were maintained.

That said, we did sometimes score significant bonuses, particularly when we beat deadlines by appreciable amounts.

C. Sense — “JHM Don’t get me started on the Arthur Androids and their ages LOL (I had shoes their age at the time)”

You noticed it, too, huh?

At some of the project checkpoint meetings, I swore I felt like I was back in grad school and that I should get up and start the day’s classroom lecture to those kids.

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Joe Hussein Mama

January 8th, 2013
3:18 pm

I’m not surprised that you defend Gore. Typical liberal response. Gore sells his tv station to one of the largest oil-producers (we are debating global warming, fossil fuels, etc, right?) on the planet and nary a peep from the left! You guys really take the cake!

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Atlanta Native

January 8th, 2013
3:20 pm

You are wasting your the tips of your fingers on this crowd, Native. Don’t you know that hypocrisy only exists on the right…at least to this bunch!

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DannyX You are pathetic in that you and your gang want to control what others think and say. I don’t watch Fox or CNBC because both are one sided. It’s sad that people get so critical towards others just because they may have a different opinion. That’s not good.

That’s right!! Just because DannyX gave his OPINION, and like he didn’t say YOU’D BETTER READ AND BELIEVE MY OPINION, and just because he based his OPINION in FACTS, doesn’t mean nuthin!!

Take your freaking FACTS DannyX and smoke ‘em! We don’t need no stinkin facts! ‘Love your Friend, Debs” PS: Don’t forget the Merlot when you come to dinner next week! Smooches.
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Redneck: Well, walk around the Auburn campus long enough and you’re bound to run into a woman that don’t resemble the local livestock.

This. Means. WAR. Redneck!
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DawgDad: Think about the FACTS. Facts are, in the early years of my lifetime no so many people lived in the South and Southwest. Then came air conditioning; jobs moved and people moved (consider how many Atlantans aren’t native Georgians). We did NOT need the Federal Government or taxation or carbon trading schemes or the like to recognize

Facts is DawgDad, perhaps you shouldn’t DRINK your lunch……..just saying……
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The weather is constantly changing….history is full of ice-ages, warmer times, etc. If all plants close down today, no fires are built, and everyone is in the dark it probably would not affect the weather noticibly.

My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.

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“I don’t think the shot at Fox was necessary, Jay. I think most conservatives acknowledge climate cycles.”

One needs to throw meet to the ravenous dogs or be eaten oneself. Or maybe he really believes that stuff (perhaps because he wasn’t asked to replace Colmes). Who knows?

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“Don’t you know that hypocrisy only exists on the right”

Well it sure was obvious when you called out Gore for selling to the Arabs while you were watching “Fox and Saudi Friends.”

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DIA — “I’m not surprised that you defend Gore.”

I didn’t *defend* Gore. I asked *you* for more details about *your* complaint. Please elaborate on what makes someone lose credibility vis-a-vis ’selling things to Ay-Rabs.’ Please pay closer attention to what I *actually* say, not to what you wish I had said.

“Typical liberal response.”

Typical cowardly conservative dodge. Tell me if selling things other than TV stations to Ay-Rabs renders one ‘without credibility,’ please.

“Gore sells his tv station to one of the largest oil-producers (we are debating global warming, fossil fuels, etc, right?) on the planet and nary a peep from the left!”

Would you be happy if he’d sold it to an American? Yes?

Go look and see where we rank on the oil-and-gas-producing ladder, then.

“You guys really take the cake!”

Once again, is it selling something to the Ay-rabs that makes one lose credibility? ‘Cause we’ve sold ‘em lots and lots of fighter jets and AWACS planes. Therefore, the US and the Presidents and lawmakers who agreed to those deals are likewise without credibility, right?

Right?

Or is it just when a liberal sells them something?

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C. Sense — “They hadn’t even checked the flippin current release to see if it was complaint. I got up and left them with the advice to TEST the most recent release before they called me again.”

I have absolutely no doubt that your story is true.

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It is great to have a President invested in green energy.

I think that is the best we will get on this issue.

All that money big oil spent to fight it worked.

The gop refuse to cut big oil welfare is the proof they won.

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The temp may be going up, but you don’t have a thing to do with it and there is nothing you can do to change it. Reminds me of the stories about rainmakers………

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Stevie Ray, I have listened to them some on the left and right. Both get paid huge bucks to entertain. Who knows? (I listen to the left the least but both are very entertaining) They can’t change a darn thing! Ever listened to Michael Savage???????

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So, Joe, Gore purchasing carbon credits from himself helps the planet? (laughing, pointing)

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“I don’t think the shot at Fox was necessary, Jay. I think most conservatives acknowledge climate cycles. Now we’re on a warming one. No big deal in the scheme of things.

Eco-weenies are Chicken-Littles pretty much demanding everyone significantly change their lifestyles so they can feel better about themselves somehow”

Double-standard much, sinky?

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Some will fail like Internet companies.

You seek perfection in government?

Get a grip on reality.

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DIA — “So, Joe, Gore purchasing carbon credits from himself helps the planet?”

One, that’s not what you claimed.

Two, that’s not what he’s doing.

Three, if you have to lie or make stuff up to support your position, you’ve already lost.

“(laughing, pointing)”

I like how you can fail and still laugh at yourself, Punkin.

BTW, did you know that Gore’s *also* been purchasing green-generated power from his local power authority for at least three or four years now? (giggling)

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“Federal scientists said that the data were ………………………………”
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I quit reading there.
Clearly, their solution is to send more money to Barney Frank.
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I really don’t know what the bigger joke is.
Federal scientists or…………
global warming or………………………
those patsies like AmVet or Kamchak that beleive in it.
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Regardless…………all of them are quite amusing.
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lol

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Joe Hussein Mama

January 8th, 2013
3:45 pm

DIA — “So, Joe, Gore purchasing carbon credits from himself helps the planet?”

One, that’s not what you claimed.

Two, that’s not what he’s doing.

Proof? Please include a link.

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“Yeah, he purchase those carbon credits from a company that he OWNS, Generation Investment Management! Wow, there’s a sucker born every minute”

If you think about it, I bet even YOU can see the logical error in your rant…

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BTW, did you know that Gore’s *also* been purchasing green-generated power from his local power authority for at least three or four years now?

Proof? Please include a link.

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“We all are going to pay for the hurricanes and drought and fires and tornadoes caused by a warming planet.”

60 billion for sandy.

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lions, and tigers, and bears…Oh my!

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After our country is destroyed by extreme weather the cons will say it was Gore’s fault.

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Joe, Gore’s home uses about 18,500 kwh per month. At, let’s say, $.09 per kwh, his utility bill is about $1670 per month. He purchases “green” energy to the tune of about $430 per month. Hooray for him!

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getalife

January 8th, 2013
3:58 pm

And, the left will blame Bush!

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Speaking of credibility, this guy predicted the collapse:

“9 Facts That Prove Joe Stiglitz Is Right About Climate Change Hurting The Economy”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/08/joe-stiglitz-climate-change-economy_n_2432744.html

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Of course, if you’ve got your head buried in the sand — or your eyes and ears fixed to Fox News

Why end the essay with a criticism (if not an insult) of those that might disagree with you? To limit debate?

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How hot is Atlanta going to get?

The place is already hell during the summer…..

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cat,

Your media has zero credibility.

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cat,

Do you read drudgey?

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Jay! How could you call out Fox News! After all, they probably have a whole bunch of unskewed data from Karl Rove proving that the earth is actually getting cooler as we type.

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DIA — “Joe, Gore’s home uses about 18,500 kwh per month. At, let’s say, $.09 per kwh, his utility bill is about $1670 per month. He purchases “green” energy to the tune of about $430 per month. Hooray for him!”

Your concession is noted and appreciated.

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prozac for jamvet, debbie and jay and his syncophants should “chill” the enviroment a few degrees …add to the water at Fox and we’d be in sweaters in July!

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We can control pollution.

We can develop alternative and cleaner energy.

We can treat our planet better.

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“We can develop alternative and cleaner energy.”

Natural Gas: cheap, cleaner, and American Made.

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I thought it was the right wing nutjobs that thought earth was only thousands of years old but many lift wing nut jobs must think the same. We have warmed and cooled many times over yet whine about temps showing the warmest year in the last 150 years. Jay, could you give us an optimum temp for Atlanta today ? Can you venture to give us an average temp for the last 10,000 years ? We know that earth was once a frozen mass, or some of us do anyway. Good thing for global warming then. The Sahara desert was once a wetlands and actually has changed back and forth about every twenty thousand years. Can anyone give a reason why it warmed and dried prior to “global warming”.

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Strange how Global Warming makes one half the globe colder than Hillary’s thighs

http://rt.com/news/cold-moscow-december-russia-757/

but the other half is hotter than Sandra Fluke’s shorts at a Merchant Marine convention. Remarkable theory. If it’s hot it’s because of Global Warming, if it’s cold it’s because of Global Warming, and if the temperature is constant it’s because of Global Warming. Remembering the Ice Age storm of two Januarys ago, bring on that Global Warming; I hate sweaters and my tire chains are still in the trunk.

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“…sold the channel to very big oil, the emir of Qatar.”

I thought he sold it to Al-Jazeera? Do you have a link to where he sold it to the emir, instead? Thanks in advance.

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Do you read drudgey?

what is that?

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Boris has an issue with women…

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alex, do you subscribe to the sunspots or cow flatulence theory?

LOL at you science-averse nitwits..

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btw, I just installed some spyware, and it is warning me that the AJC website contains “malicious URL or Cookie” thingies and I have to override constantly to read the paper. Is the AJC the source of all that spam I get? Does anyone know what a “malicious URL” is?

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DIA — “You are deflecting from the subject at hand…again.”

No, I’m following up on YOUR deflection, to wit “IF Al Gore had one ounce of credibility, he lost it by selling his station to the ARabs”

If you don’t want to be called out on your crazy bulldada, then try sticking to the subject YOURSELF, Cowboy.

“Please try to focus.”

Try focusing YOURSELF.

“The subject here is: 2012 shatters heat records for continental U.S.”

And now the subject is Crazy Bulldada DIA Said On Page 2. Too bad for you.

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Georgia — “Does anyone know what a “malicious URL” is?”

It’s when your neighbor named Earl tries to break in and burgle your house.

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Georgia

January 8th, 2013
4:22 pm

We do neither. Since we have 50years or so before the sky falls according to these “scientists”, we need to have this issue vetted and challenged at every level before we throw money at it…seems this is the only “science” that is afraid of the most important part of scientific theory, discharging any and all challenges…what is wrong with skepticism?

Why are you who think this is a forgone conclusion afraid of skepticism?

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GEORGIA

I didn’t mean to insinuate you have an opinion one way or another..

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When they can create a model that can predict the past….then maybe

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What’s up with Obama’s war on women and minorities? All of his appointees are old white guys.

Have a good afternoon everyone.

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AL Gore selling his radio station is not a big deal in my book. The big deal is the millions he has and will make from his phony balony movie and scare tactics…Like the chief in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest” per Nicholsons character..”you gottem all fooled chief, you got em all fooled!”

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Notwithstanding that the eminent scientist R. Limbaugh PhD-BS believes the answer is due to volcanoes, what do cons think about the equally esteemed and Republican proffered “wobbles in the earth’s orbit theory”?

Chuckle…

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The past has already been predicted as having happened. It’s true. It really did happen.

It’s a shame that the models don’t agree with history…what is history doing wrong?

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It’s a shame that the models don’t agree with history…what is history doing wrong?

What models. What history. What are you doing wrong.

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btw, I just installed some spyware,

I would recommend against that.

Now, anti-spyware programs are a different story! (grin) And that depends on whether you are using something decent or just some hokey BS product. (And there are bunches of them out there…)

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Joe Hussein Mama

January 8th, 2013
4:42 pm

DIA — “I obliged you with my answer.”

You most certainly have not. For the third time:

So is it selling something to the Ay-rabs that makes one lose credibility? No ‘Cause we’ve sold ‘em lots and lots of fighter jets and AWACS planes. Therefore, the US and the Presidents and lawmakers who agreed to those deals are likewise without credibility, right? No

Right? No

Or is it just when a liberal sells them something? Not just when liberals sell, no.

Your turn.

“I guess you do not intend to do the same?”

How rude! You don’t answer, but then you demand an answer be given to you? Didn’t your parents teach you about politeness? Momma tried…

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You don’t answer, but then you demand an answer be given to you?

Show me where I *demanded* anything or admit that you are a liar!

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Regnad Kcin

January 8th, 2013
4:35 pm

So you want me to play climate scientist and direct you to substantive research questioning the politically correct position? There is plenty out there that is discounted…better yet shouted down by attacks on the authors…here are a few..

Case in point, see the attached document. If I offered an opinion which the low was 5 and the high is 100, my number is not credible since the wider the deviation, the less credible is my data. If you notice in the article, there are so many vagaries in the core metrics used by various groups that a statistically relevant projection is irrelevant.

I’d start with the pure metrics and vet everyone of them…identifying all scientist of any opinion to challenge the credibility of all…if it is possible to get to a consensus regarding metrics, we may have something…until then we got nothing. Temperatures, ocean levels, differences in regions, ice plugs, accuracy of one temperature gauge versus another…any or all of these may suggest that looking beyond the span of time where verifiable data was available is not appropriate..

Too many variables. Consensus assigning algorythmic weights to all of these (there may even be hundreds of variables we don’t know exist)agreed measures..who knows, we may reach a consensus….of course, you can’t factor for the cash and political incentives…meaning you know the answer before you do the work.

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I am proposing a new carbon tax on babies. People are the problem. We need fewer people. Problem solved.

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DIA — “Right? No”

Then explain yourself. Are your pwecious feefees hurt because big bad Al Gore wouldn’t sell Current to Glenn Beck?

“Or is it just when a liberal sells them something? Not just when liberals sell, no.”

Then explain yourself. Do Presidents, Senators and Congressmen lose credibility when selling arms and ammo to Ay-Rabs?

“Your turn.”

To use your word, no. Your answer is short on detail and context, and you’re not getting any longer an answer from me than you give me.

So if all you have to say is “no,” then that’s all the answer *you’re* getting. No.

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DIA — “Show me where I *demanded* anything or admit that you are a liar!”

“Your turn.”

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“So, what evidence do you want to offer to try to change the current theory? You seem really upset that you can’t offer this evidence, because some people (apparently?) don’t like skeptics (?).”

One can start in these two places:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming

I think it all boils down to how much faith one has in current scientific knowledge. I personally liken the complexity of our world’s climate system to that of the human body. It is clear that medical science has only begun to understand the human body functions as an extremely complex chorus of subsystems. Many if not most of the drugs that prescribed for medical conditions are but crude attempts to hack the CNS. The mechanism of action of many drugs is unknown. That is why drugs can cause such harm to certain individuals (and why there are lengthy disclaimers at the end of drug advertisements) – even death: they are monkeying with things they don’t really understand. They are discovering now I hear that cancer treatments given decades ago are the likely cause of current ailments and diseases in some patients.

The moral: we should tread very lightly here.

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Respect Saban.

Damn it feels good to be a Crimson Tide fan.

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barking frog,

If Republicans were an offense you could just send the Alabama defense to stop them from breathing. The Bama D is good at strangling offenses.

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Ya’ll do realize that these new temperature highs are usually by one or two one hundredths of a degree right?

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Thulsa Doom
You are correct.

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Cons have faith. They don’t do science.

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Climate change?………yeah it happens?

Tory, are you a subscriber of the sunspot theory?

I couldn’t possibly care less what Rick Perry’s theory is on anything.

Fair enough, but it is also obvious that that sentiment applies to virtually the entire scientific community on the entire planet.

THAT is not the Republican thing to do, is it?

Not that YOU or any other denier would ever dare read it, but here is one excellent article about the GOP’s huge problem on this matter…

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/09/12/839821/republican-meterologist-to-romney-top-10-reasons-the-gop-needs-to-accept-the-climate-reality/

(Note the last word in that URL, dawg.)

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Redcoat

January 8th, 2013
4:58 pm

Climate change?………yeah it happens?…..and you say I got to pay who?…… how much?……… to do what?

Maybe we can purchase carbon credits from Al Gorezeera?

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The new highs are due to increases of one or two hundredths of a degree! Is that the latest from the con’s unskewed data source.

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Ice melting. Hmmmm. What could it mean. What do the thermometers say.

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Can we pass the Cap and Trade bill so we can see what is in it?

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Towncrier, your wiki links on opposing scientific views to global warming are weaki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

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Jamvet, are you referring to this “wobble” therory ? http://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/green-sahara-african-humid-periods-paced-by-82884405

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Congrats to Notre Dame for what still has to be considered a fine season. 12-1 is still outstanding.

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“Not that YOU or any other denier would ever dare read it, but here is one excellent article about the GOP’s huge problem on this matter…”

From the site info page:

‘ThinkProgress was voted “Best Liberal Blog” in the 2006 Weblog Awards and chosen as an Official Honoree in the 2009 and 2012 Webby awards.’

How about this: both sides should stop pointing the other to political sites to “prove” the other wrong? This should be a strictly scientific question until the anthropogenic contribution (large or small) to global warming is decisively settled.

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Georgia, man, would mind if I keep a copy of your intellectual treatise to refer to later. Rarely have I seen someone delineate the problem in such a concise, condensed discourse. Of course, those doubters who creep in from the periphery seek to discredit your profound intellectualism should be cast aside like so much flotsam and jetsam. No, perserverance is what counts. Perservere regardless of the doubters. Maintain the straight course. Do not veer from it. Hold fast.

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Can I make a difference in global warming? Yeah, like I can buy a Prius and make up for Krakatoa.

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Yeah, like I can buy a Prius and make up for Krakatoa.

This rationalization brought to you by the Koch brothers.

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Why do people politicize science? The planet is warming. This is not politics people. So ridiculous. It’s embarrassing to read some of the idiocy in here.

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Georgia, so you are in the R. Limbaugh PhD-BS camp on this matter.

That’s it! I’m finally convinced!

ALL of those dozens and dozens and dozens of incredibly famous and prestigious institutions and thousands and thousands and thousands of eminently qualified experts together, are all full of crap.

And you relative handful of nobodies have got this right.

Schnort…

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As we can see, all this fuss about climate is useless chatter.

“We”?

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Has earth even seen a time when it was not in some type of climate change ? How many ice ages have we had and how many warming periods followed ? The left claims those on the right to be deniers but I don’t see the right denying something that has been around since earth was formed, climate change. It was a good thing warming periods have happened in the past, you can’t grow crops in ice and earth was once covered by it. It did not melt because of mankind and it did not freeze because of mankind.

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Joe Hussein, why was Greenland called Greenland if it is “normal” for it to be covered with ice ?

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why was Greenland called Greenland if it is “normal” for it to be covered with ice ?

Oh my Lord, you did not just write that, did you???

Now that is what i would call horrifyingly ignorant!

Slightly paraphrased for freshness…

We have the purpose of keeping scientifically illiterate ignoramuses from controlling the anthropogenic climate change debate in the United States.

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Has the rate of change of global temperature over the past 150 years exceeded the rate of change of global temperatures of any other 150 year period over the past 10,000 years?

Please show your work.

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We’ve had other industrial revolutions in the past 10,000 years?

Please show your work.

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tundra dude – my point earlier

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Oscar

January 8th, 2013
6:07 pm

OMG!!!! Then I was right? Whew

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Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?

Body count: In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago.
More than 500 Murdered in 2012!!!!
For the same time frame 221 people were killed in Iraq AND Chicago has one of the strictest gun laws in the entire US.

President: Barack Hussein Obama
Senator: Dick Durbin
House Representative: Jesse Jackson Jr.
Governor: Pat Quinn
House leader: Mike Madigan
Atty. Gen.: Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)
Mayor: Rahm Emanuel

The leadership in Illinois – all Democrats.
Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago .
Of course, they’re all blaming each other.
Can’t blame Republicans; there aren’t any!

Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.
Can’t blame Republicans; there aren’t any!

State pension fund $78 Billion in debt, worst in country.
Can’t blame Republicans; there aren’t any!

Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax 10.25% highest in country.
Can’t blame Republicans; there aren’t any!

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois.
And he is going to ‘fix’ Washington politics for us???
George Ryan is no longer Governor, he is in the big house. Of course he was replaced by Rob Blajegovitch who is…that’s right, also in the big house.
And Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. resigned a couple of weeks ago. That is because he is fighting being sent to…that’s right, the big house.
The Land of Lincoln, where our governors make our license plates.

But you know what? As long as they keep providing entitlements to the population of Chicago, nothing is going to change, except that the state will go broke before the country does. Chicago and Illinois….set the pace for the rest of the country…

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OMG!!!! Then I was right? Whew

I think you just got punked.

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So what are we to Jay? Force the middle class to suffer more by penalizing electric and gas companies? You loons on the left don’t understand that its simply nature and there absolutely nothing we an do about it….

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Well, it sure was good to get out of the terrible heat out there and back into the trailer.

Global warming! What a bunch of morans! Have a good night everybody.

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A city with over 500B in GDP contribution surely needs to be sent packing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_GDP

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Bob, You can’t reason with those who are never wrong.
JamVet, you wrote oh my Lord. I didn’t think liberals acknowledged there is a Lord. I guess you were referring to your lord, bho, YOUR PRESIDENT!!!!

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its simply nature and there absolutely nothing we an do about it….

Yes there is CC.We can adapt like we always have. Piece of cake as far as I’m concerned!

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Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 8th, 2013
6:25 pm

Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?

Perhaps you should look up the word plagiarism in the dictionary.

pla·gia·rism
[pley-juh-riz-uh m, -jee-uh-riz-] Show IPA
noun
1.
an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author’s work as one’s own, as by not crediting the original author:

Since the original author is unknown then how can it be considered plagiarism? More Kamspam.

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Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?
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We would be better off pullung out of the south.

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“John Coleman, the founder of The Weather Channel, and various other critics have called the theory that human use of carbon-based fossil fuels will lead to catastrophic global warming or climate change a “hoax.” It is, but it’s more than that, it’s criminal.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2012/09/16/climate-change-hoax-or-crime-of-the-century/2/

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DawgDad

January 8th, 2013
2:32 pm
Let’s say we could all throw all our stuff into the big Government black hole and magically someone COULD control the climate. Who would want that??? Think about it, the ultimate tyranny. Endless wars. No? Constant campaigning to control the next day’s thermostat setting, enslaved to the Government for water, rain, sunlight, darkness, food.

Just when you think you read an all-time low, a post like this pops up. Some people absolutely DO NOT get it. Never have, and never will.

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Buy property in Greenland or Canada, the future breadbasket of the world (that is, Canada, Russia and other parts of the inhabited world).

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There is no global warming… Republican’s told us so…. HA HA HA !

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One thing is clear to me whenever this topic is posted.

There is a significant portion of the population, not to mention this blog, that is unwaveringly, staunchly, and most assuredly resistant to new information, critical analysis, examination of dearly-held views or just plain thinking.

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“Force the middle class to suffer more by penalizing electric and gas companies? You loons on the left don’t understand that its simply nature and there absolutely nothing we an do about it…”

Hey CC, just where in the hell were the Georgia Republicans when they decided residential customers of Georgia Power would be the only ones prepaying for the new nuclear power plants? Businesses are not prepaying. Residential customers are also responsible for cost overruns (already near a billion dollars.)

Were Republicans looking out for the middle class or Georgia Power investors who made out like bandits?

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“That roller coster needed a flag”

http://www.manolith.com/files/2013/01/flag-on-roller-coaster.jpg

Patriotic.

More proof some Americans have a broken compass, AIG might sue us for bailing them out.

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There is a significant portion of the population, not to mention this blog, that is unwaveringly, staunchly, and most assuredly resistant to new information, critical analysis, examination of dearly-held views or just plain thinking..

Paul: I hope you don’t put me in that category. The world is definitely getting warmer, but the snapshot of data that we look at is small. Yes, I’ve seen ice core data, but they can’t narrow it down to the rate of change over a 100-200 year period.

There was a Nat Geo special on early man that documented (I can look it up if I have to) a 400 year period of extreme drought and heat during mankind’s early development. This was several thousands of years ago. They inferred that the climatic extreme prompted the early hominids to grow bigger brains and become more adaptive. Probably saved the species, IMO.

Homo sapien has survived by being adaptive. We live in every climate on earth, from the Himalayas to the Sahara desert. We’ll adapt to a changing climate. I have no doubt that fossil fuels will be fossils within 200 years. No need going all nuts at this point.

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Yahoo! Another great year of boating on Lanier.

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Jim, are you serious or what this a typo?

“I am in favor of taxing things that are bad to provide revenue for government, that we need.”

Heaven (or government) help you.

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godless heathen: Homo sapien has survived by being adaptive. We live in every climate on earth, from the Himalayas to the Sahara desert. We’ll adapt to a changing climate.

While true, other species are not so fortunate to survive the changes. There are many other species on the earth that work together to provide the “circle of life” that supports our existence. If we take out too many of those supporting species, then THAT is when it will be too late to do anything.

So common sense says to ACT NOW to reduce the waste humans are putting back on the planet.

Sure, I don’t know all the answers, and hobbling economies won’t help either. But seeing how much denial is going on, it’s hard to have a discussion on HOW TO ACT when a side says “who cares?”

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godless

’sides which, for our fundamentalist/evangelical/Christian persuasion friends, isn’t there some little injunction somewhere by this Supreme Being Creator about taking care of the earth He made for mankind?

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Bookman, you crack me up! The WaPo – as someone would post here “there’s your sign”.

Might want to look at some other sources, oh, never mind. Don’t want opposing points of view on this blog.

Just in case….http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/05/31/sorry-global-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/

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Countries throughout Europe and Asia are experiencing an unusually cold winter. In Russia, the coldest temperatures on record since 1938 have left at least 88 dead. Temperatures in Ulan Bator, capital of Mongolia, have dipped to minus 50 degrees Celsius in recent weeks. Additionally, temperatures of -20 degrees Celsius or below have hit China: the Chinese province of Inner Mongolia witnessed the mercury falling to -40 degrees Celsius last weekend. Another cold spell is expected to hit China in the next several days, which will bring strong winds, potentially heavy snowfall as well as sharp temperature drops
From China.org

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JamVet

There’s always hope.

Otherwise know as “The Reagan Model”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3u3PwCZfM4#t=00m24s

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I heard Georgia Power is…

I heard that I will be the starting quarterback in the Super Bowl.

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(as opposed to the entire lifespan of the earth)

How many industrial revolutions has “the entire lifespan of the earth” experienced?

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Paul has reading comprehension probs.

Poor Paul…

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@vast right wing – learn the difference between an article and an opinion piece – especially when reading the WSJ.

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Only one is the answer, but why is this inane question relevant?

Because you want to compare the past 150 years with any other 150 year period.

Show me another 150 year period with an industrial revolution and you will have a valid comparison.

Inane question?

There’s your sign.

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TBS

January 8th, 2013
7:05 pm

td @ 6:49

Except for the billions in private investment for solar and wind ventures you might have a point somewhere in your post

Don’t be afraid of the facts. Let google, bing, or even yahoo be your friend.

Is there a ways to go? Without a doubt, but your statement about venture capital is let’s say wrong to say the least

And if it was viable technology that would cost less then carbon based products then there would be 100’s of billions pumped into the R&D.

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Ok. Let’s say there is a problem. What is the “right” temperature for the planet? What is the correct temperature for every plant and animal? What is the earth’s optimal number? Let’s get that number and get started reaching it. Anyone got that number? Also, what’s the proof that the number being used is correct?

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Because you want to compare the past 150 years with any other 150 year period.

There’s your sign.

Well if another 150 year period demonstrates a greater rate of change than the rate of change during the industrial revolution, then the industrial revolution can’t be blamed for an accelerated rate of change.

And that sir, is your sign. Sadly.

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“There is a significant portion of the population, not to mention this blog, that is unwaveringly, staunchly, and most assuredly resistant to new information, critical analysis, examination of dearly-held views or just plain thinking.”

And then there are those that are “unwaveringly, staunchly, and most assuredly” willing to spend or forfeit trillions of dollars to fix what may not in fact be broken.

Speaking of clear thinking, I am still waiting on your rational for believing that 1) the apostle Paul had “sexual hangups” (based on evidence) 2) gay marriage is permitted by the Scriptures despite there being no explicit discussion of anything but heterosexual marriage and 3) plain prohibitions of homosexuality by Paul in the NT should be ignored or dismissed because of belief # 1.

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Lets see, if we are to judge on which side has a better percentage of turning out to be right, I will have to go with the sane Americans.

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“nfluential scientist James Lovelock admits that he’s been a bit of an alarmist (read: fear-monger) when it comes to matters of global warming and climate change. Though he wouldn’t call himself a “denier” by any stretch of the imagination, he concedes that the earth really hasn’t changed as much as he apocalyptically predicted it would, and throws other environmental activists under the bus as well, including Al Gore.

“Before this century is over billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable,” he said back in 2006. Now, 6 years later, he told MSNBC that he had been “extrapolating too far,” in recent years.

A favorite of the environmental movement, Lovelock is probably best-known for his “Gaia” model of the earth as a single organism. The 92-year-old scientist is writing a new book in which he will say climate change is still a very real issue, but that it’s just not happening as fast as he once thought.

Even though the world isn’t much warmer that it was 12 years ago, according to Lovelock’s old theories, “we were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now,” which seems hardly the world we live in. He admitted, “The problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books – mine included – because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn’t happened,” Lovelock said.”

“The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time… it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising — carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that,” he added. Though he has not changed his mind about climate change, he has changed his extremist doomsday-laden positions, and calls Al Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth” and Tim Flannery’s “The Weather Makers” as other examples of “alarmist” forecasts of the future.”

Sounds like some of the posters on here read his first book and took it as gospel.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/224934/global-warming-scientist-james-lovelock-admits-to-being-an-alarmist/#gotHxccJl0Q1jCXS.99

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here we go again about global warming, of course the only solution liberals have come up with is to tax carbon usage, the middle class and lower be damned by higher rates to power their home, fuel their cars, ect, rates will go up regardless of usage even if you are able to consume less energy. Consume less energy, restrict movement and life styles, the liberal way….liberals hate the fact that cheap energy helps those in all classes and encourages freedom. Liberals hate people to have economic freedom. that is all this carbon tax, carbon credit crap is all about. it’s to fuel more gov’t spending and more confiscation of individual wealth!

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godless

I don’t think it’s quite that dire as far as the third world. One of the documented phenomenons in industrialization is the further along the timeline one goes, the less time it takes for a nation to go from preindustrial to industrial. Look how long it took us and western Europe. It was a developmental process. Now look at China. Yes, they emit a bunch of stuff. But the projections that say ‘they emit this much now so in 30 years they’ll emit this much” have it wrong. They don’t keep using the same technologies. They use the cheaper, easier ones to get going and then begin playing leapfrog.

But on to the other point – not just you, but those open enough to keep on thinking about this – much of this discussion is about ‘what’s the temp now compared to xyz’ or ‘we have readings for n years compared to 1000n years’ and such.

Have you considered those are the effects – the results? When what can be measured, has been measured, is the accelerated rate and amount of greenhouse gasses we’ve trapped in the atmosphere and the effects that has caused?

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Of all the asinine and unimportant questions to be asked, those have got to be near the top of the list…

It’s a good question. The climate has been changing since the beginning of the earth. It has changed dramatically since homo sapiens first walked the earth. Is today’s climate worse than the climate of 5,000 years ago?

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Have you considered those are the effects – the results? When what can be measured, has been measured, is the accelerated rate and amount of greenhouse gasses we’ve trapped in the atmosphere and the effects that has caused?

Sorry Paul, but I don’t get the question.

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I’m no scientist, don’t even play one on TV, so I don’t have a dog in the global warming fight.

Assuming you’re right Jay you only state the problem, but no answers. I believe most reasonable people will consider sensible solutions, but they have to be realistic and do-able, not the usual fruitcake stuff like powering our cars with windmills.

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I’m surprised that some of these ignoramuses are even smart enough to take their meds.

After all they were prescribed by, no doubt, liberals who don’t have tens of thousands of years of evidence that these medicines or treatments are even valid.

In fact, I encourage them to take a stand against this junk science being promoted by the overwhelming consensus of medical doctors in the world!

Don’t take your meds cons!

It is a giant left wing hoax!!!

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And then there is that too. While we are at it, why don’t we unilaterally disarm and all go live in communes (with NO gas or diesel powered generators – just windmills and solar panels)? [birds chirping in background and the sun breaking through the clouds in a radiant beam]

http://youtu.be/ZqsW_noBIjQ

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td

Don’t get upset with me because you made a statement, which was wrong then changed your own premise and was called out for it.

Read your 6:59 then your 8:03………. that’s what you do.

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““Before this century is over billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable,” he said back in 2006. Now, 6 years later, he told MSNBC that he had been “extrapolating too far,” in recent years.”

BWAHAHAHAHA. Extrapolating too far? DO YOU THINK???

And, of course, on a serious note, that only shows that “scientists” VERY LIKELY (a pet phrase of theirs) don’t really know enough to say much definitively.

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td

Thanks for admitting that you are a liar and are not able to back up the usual running of your mouth

That is the 1st step. 2nd step: stop doing it

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godless 8:20

the changes in climate is the result – rather like the weight one carries after the holidays. People can debate all day long as to how much weight is okay. But the real issue is, how did the weight get put on in the first place (what led to the temp changes)?

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A woman who is eight-months pregnant with her sixteenth child is claiming police brutality after she says Tampa officers used a stun gun on her.

Tampa police arrested Angel Adams, 39, this week and charged her with battery on a law enforcement officer after a scuffle when police came to her home to talk to one of her sons. She says the stun gun endangered her life — and the life of her unborn child.

Adams, 39, first made headlines two years ago when she was evicted from her apartment, then moved into a small motel room with 12 of her 15 children. Her story angered many when she angrily demanded, “Somebody needs to pay for all of this.”

After legal struggles and with the help of the Department of Children and Families, Adams was able to move into a home large enough for her entire family.

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Godless,

climate science is a field that you should take the time to study given that your questions have been asked and answered numerous times.

Do your homework, dude.

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Shantel

“Assuming you’re right Jay you only state the problem, but no answers.”

Jay’s noted that the first order of business is to acknowledge a problem exists. Many of the readers here will not agree there is a problem. Then and only then can solutions be presented.

It’s like talking to a person weighing 375 pounds who says “obese? How dare you! I’m not even overweight!” Until one gets an acceptance, it’s useless to talk about diet and exercise.

Personally, I accept modern man, thru the pollutants he releases, has a measurable and significant impact on the climate. I am not, however, in favor of many of the cap and trade schemes that have been proposed, which seem to me designed to benefit the money houses that crashed our financial system rather than benefiting the environment.

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OH GOOD LORD!

not this again.

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godless

You’re welcome. Tere’s also a ‘read’ version here: http://www.mers.byu.edu/long/KGM/KGM.html

Enjoy the dog time. They keep things in perspective.

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the changes in climate is the result – rather like the weight one carries after the holidays. People can debate all day long as to how much weight is okay. But the real issue is, how did the weight get put on in the first place (what led to the temp changes)?

Paul: I’m a geologist. My mindset is to think of the earth in terms of millions of years. I think of man’s existence in terms of thousands of years. These thermometer things have only been around a few hundred. Ice cores etc indicate climatic changes on the order of thousands of years. I’m not convinced that we have sufficient data to prove that the climate is changing at a faster rate than it ever has.

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“EXACTLY!!!!!!. If conservatives would just get on board with reducing manmade global warming, they could simultaneously cut down on the number of abortions performed by planned parenthood. Win-win!”

Hmmm…so how does that work, exactly? When things are cooler outside, people will not be inside? They will frequent fewer bars? Teenagers will be more likely to study than engage in “sexting”? Married couples will be happier and less likely to commit adultery?

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“And there’s your sign.”

Indeed..uuhh..[Lifts toilet seat] HUUUURGGEHH…

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Do your homework, dude.

I have dude. I’m a skeptic about all things. I’m a scientist. I’m especially skeptical about the scientific things.

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TBS

January 8th, 2013
8:41 pm

No you are a coward and a azzhat because you never actually want to discuss any issue with a conservative in an intellectual manner. All you want to do is try to bash conservatives. Now that is a coward plain and simple.

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godless

With your background, I’m sure you’ll find the presentation fascinating.

Sometime I’d like to hear how you handle the ‘earth is 10000 years old” crowd. I’m wondering if many have even the rudimentary background to get what you might tell them.

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““Before this century is over billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic…”

Doctor, you mentioned the ratio of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn’t that necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?

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“A woman who is eight-months pregnant with her sixteenth child is claiming police brutality after she says Tampa officers used a stun gun on her…

Adams, 39, first made headlines two years ago when she was evicted from her apartment, then moved into a small motel room with 12 of her 15 children. Her story angered many when she angrily demanded, “Somebody needs to pay for all of this…

After legal struggles and with the help of the Department of Children and Families, Adams was able to move into a home large enough for her entire family.”

Well, isn’t that special? So much for “Christian charity” not helping this poor, victimized woman out. The government is the only TRUE source of help for our nation’s poor and needy. The heartless and stupid conservatives will say you shouldn’t help people who aren’t willing to help themselves. That’s because they don’t understand people like alcoholics are diseased and cannot help themselves. If they could choose better things for themselves, they would.

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td

Seeing that you are an intellectually dishonest dolt with your 6:59 and 8:03 proving that point (yet again) what is there to discuss with you on a real level?

You were proven wrong, yet again then changed your own premise in some effort to prove a point.

That is your stupidity not mine

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JamVet

January 8th, 2013
8:50 pm

heathen the point is that I am smart enough to listen to and believe the acknowledged, credentialed, respected experts in these fields. Whether they are experts in medicine or climatology.

You believed them when it fits your own political views. I have posted three articles of three global alarmist that says the original science was incorrect or even a hoax and you just ignore them now when it does not fit your personal views. What does this say about your belief system?

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And td, please make sure you can back up what you say when accusing me of saying something

Lying is a bad habit. Time for you to stop. Let today be the 1st day in that journey.

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TBS

January 8th, 2013
9:00 pm

Whatever floats your narcissistic mind. Either come and say those things to my face or STFU.

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“Doctor, you mentioned the ratio of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn’t that necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?”

Well, yes. But that will not prove a problem since it is highly likely that once same-sex marriages are deemed Constitutional, laws prohibiting polygamy will also not survive a court challenge.

Now, the scenario to which you allude will almost certainly be problematic if most or all of the remaining males are homosexual. In that case, you might have one man married to thousands of women.

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When will td post his face? Inquiring minds.

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Taxpayer

td is a tough guy. He has basically said the same to others over at Galloway’s blog.

He is a legend in his mind. He isn’t going to do anything except run his mouth

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Well, I never got anyone shouting “plant food!”

but I did get this:

Joe Hussein, why was Greenland called Greenland

and many variations of “Did you know Al Gore is fat?”

So, not a total loss, skimming these pages.

anyhow, pleasant evening, all.

/drive-by

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kam

exactly

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TD is going to beat up someone?…. do blog names with those initials cause posters to believe that they are blog thugs?

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TBS – Gee, do you think that has to do with wackos in government that can “approve” their license to operate? Or just them down? Mo’ money to the gov’t, to save the envin’mnt – as they say in Chicago!

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td

Take some deep breaths into a paper bag before you hyperventilate……………

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Oh well it seem that a summary of conned posts seems to be that we need to be worried about leaving future generations debt but, if we are responsible for increasing the rate of climate change, which will have significant costs impact as well as changing the world and even though we can do something about it, oh well…future generations will just have to deal with it.

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Is this the same Jm who recently told getalife he was done with this blog and the same one who used to yearn for Bookman’s attention like a puppy dog?

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Do they have melt-downs in Singapore?

Is melting down a caning offense?

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“Whatever floats your narcissistic mind.”

Actually, I think narcissistic minds hover more than float. Studies indicate that over the past 150 years, the id and superego of narcissists can be (at times, depending upon the CO2 coefficient) seen floating above these individuals.

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TheBullSh$$ter- Hello! What, were you born yesterday?

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Whatever floats your narcissistic mind. Either come and say those things to my face or STFU.

Well, I sure long for the good old days. I recall back on Wooten’s blog these two bloggers got in a ruckus and agreed to meet at a parking lot somewhere around Powers Ferry Road to settle things. I never did learn if they met. Anyhow, both were back on Wooten’s blog the next day.

Now all we get is a bunch of blowhards. They won’t come out and say “My real name is ____ and I live at 123 Ashford Dunwoody Road. Come by tonight and I’ll give you a knuckle sandwich and we’ll see who’s lying.” Instead they just keep insulting each other behind their blog handles.

There was a lot that was good about the old days. And if you don’t like me you know my name (the mailbox says E.—for Elbert— not Redneck, Convert) and you know I live in the second trailer to the right after you enter Simpsons Trailer Park. There’s a old washing machine in the front. But if you show up, just be warned. The missus will squash you like a bug. She gets mighty protective of me.

Have a good night everybody.

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“Do they have melt-downs in Singapore? Is melting down a caning offense?”

No, but it is a problem in Oz.

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USA

Guess you have no data. Just assertions

Thought so, but carry on.

Heck, you might want to stick with Jm.

He was telling us about Romney wins in FL and the the Obama administration holding back foreclosures not so long ago.

Well he to was wrong

bwhahahahahaahah

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Not in the least bit angry.

All available evidence belies your misstatement.

Just pointing out the facts.

The next time you “point out the facts” will be your first time.

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“The next time you “point out the facts” will be your first time.”

And the next time to say something that isn’t regurg…uuhh…[Lifts toilet seat] HUUUURGGEHH…

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Redneck Convert (R–and proud of it)

January 8th, 2013
9:18 pm

I know the blogger is nothing more the scared little thug wanna a be. I have been around the block enough to know how to stop these people that want to be a blog bully.

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td

Sure you do. You didn’t answer my last question little fella?

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DannyX, “Guy, its called tough love. Would you feed an alcoholic liquor? Would you supply meth to a meth addict? ”

I don’t suppose you’d care to support applying that same logics to the welfare crowd would you?

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“How imbecilic can you Republicans be? You cons are a very, very, very bad joke.”

I think you left out a couple of “verys” there – otherwise, the sheer brilliance and flammability of your comment is astounding, almost Nimzowitsch-like: “Gegen diesen Idioten muss ich verlieren!”

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Everyone have a great night

Take care of td. Wouldn’t want him to break his own nose as he flails all over the blog

peace

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“I don’t suppose you’d care to support applying that same logic to the welfare crowd would you?”

No…that would be politically incorrect and, besides, liberals are allowed to have double standards. Geez…were you born yesterday?

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I have to admit I was first encouraged when Jm tacitly accepted global warming as real on the first page. That was soon dashed when others piped up with the same old arguments that have been repeatedly debunked.

The layperson’s only excuses are ignorance and the religious fervent belief in their own political ideology that has taken a stand against this in the form of “what problem?”

I’ve been over how stupid you people are to believe global warming isn’t real. I am sure in 5 pages the debate raged on and you denied every bit of evidence presented to you, or perhaps looked at it (rare and not likely) and then found some rationalization as to why it just CAN’T be true.

This is happening. And it’s NOT too late to do something about it. But if you keep pretending the problem doesn’t exist long enough, there won’t be any time left to fix it.

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Hey, TheBullSh$$ter! Have a great night!

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Keep

Settle down

If you want to pass on a compliment, fine by me

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Now now JM… I am perfectly settled. Just noting that you claimed that is the “most valid point I have had all day” and I have been out all day.

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Chicken liberal

Don’t be a con version of a debt denier

Just a thought

One can have doubts, but the preponderance of evidence indicates a huge man made problem

There are good and bad solutions

Cons should be advocating for the good solutions

Leave libs to suggest the inane ones

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“Federal scientists said that the data were compelling evidence that climate change is affecting weather in the United States and suggest that the nation’s weather is likely to be hotter, drier and potentially more extreme than it would have been without the warmer temperatures.”

Good ……….. now I don’t have to move to Florida.

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Sqwaaakkk!!! Yesss!!! Yesss!! Maybe if it gets hot enough, their guns will melt!!! Sqwaaakkk!!!

Go get your high fives from the Fox News Frat Brothers. You won’t find such here.

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Keep 9:47

Well if you were out all day, then I was right

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Respect Saban. Do it. Do it now Damnit!!!

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Scout

There’s a reason FL has lots of incentives for alternative energy

They realize they’re on the front lines

Most of FL will disappear beneath the waves

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“Sit down and shut up. Let the grown ups handle this.”

Where are they? Sqwaaakkk!!!

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