2012 shatters heat records for continental U.S.
“Last year was the hottest on record for the continental United States, shattering the previous mark set in 1998 by a wide margin, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced Tuesday.
The average temperature was 55.3 degrees, 1 degree above the previous record and 3.2 degrees more than the 20th-century average. Temperatures were above normal in every month between June 2011 and September 2012, a 16-month stretch that hasn’t occurred since the government began keeping such records in 1895.
Federal scientists said that the data were compelling evidence that climate change is affecting weather in the United States and suggest that the nation’s weather is likely to be hotter, drier and potentially more extreme than it would have been without the warmer temperatures.
Last year’s record temperature is “clearly symptomatic of a changing climate,” said Thomas R. Karl, who directs NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center. Americans can now see the sustained warmth over the course of their own lifetimes, something we haven’t seen before.”
Of course, if you’ve got your head buried in the sand — or your eyes and ears fixed to Fox News — you probably STILL haven’t noticed what has become so glaringly apparent.
– Jay Bookman
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getalife
January 8th, 2013
3:09 pm
We need an alternative to corporate media lies so I read Al Jazerra on the ME.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
3:09 pm
C. Sense — “JHM Having been in the trenches during Y2k as a consultant at a national bank in NC I saw many homegrown systems that were badly written and definitely at risk. The vendor supplied software not as much.”
Ayup.
If you have Crazy Eddie and Mikey over in IT write your enterprise software for you, then you’ll get what you paid for. No guarantees, questionable support and a hell of a mess if and when it ever collapses. At least the prepackaged ERP came with SLAs and dedicated support lines.
S. Ray — “Do you have any idea how much the big consulting firms (ie the current Accenture formerly anderson consulting, deloitte and other CPA firms and forensic tech firms) made on the work such that you did?”
Uh huh. I do. I also know that they (Andersen in particular) sent third-stringers and kids right out of college to do that work, and billed them out at $200 an hour and up. I couldn’t believe that Andersen billed those kids out that high with a straight face.
“I usually follow the incentives…correct answer 100% of the time.”
We didn’t really *have* incentives, as we were normally there for something else and were tasked to do the analyses and remediation while we were there working on something else. Only one of the clients I served during that time even seemed to have its head on straight about the whole thing, and they really only seemed to want us to look into Y2K as a backstop to their own remediation — kind of a due diligence thing.
DownInAlbany
January 8th, 2013
3:10 pm
Regnad Kcin
January 8th, 2013
3:06 pm
“IF Al Gore had one ounce of credibility, he lost it by selling his station to the ARabs”
This must be some conservative meme you would get if you listen to Rush…
Typical response by one of the Bookmanbots…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 8th, 2013
3:13 pm
stands for decibels
January 8th, 2013
3:07 pm
Well, anyone who thinks emissions are a good thing are clearly brainless. Two thoughts, it does seem the evidence is picking up on deniers side and flat on believers side. Two, how much debt is too much in your book?
DannyX
January 8th, 2013
3:14 pm
““IF Al Gore had one ounce of credibility, he lost it by selling his station to the ARabs””
Did the Saudi who owns all of that News Corp (Fox News) stock buy Current?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 8th, 2013
3:15 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
3:09 pm
I think the incentives were on the revenue side of the accountants. Without “adequate” evaluation, they refused to sign off on financials in many cases.
Towncrier
January 8th, 2013
3:15 pm
“Some guys will take some middle ground and say “well wouldn’t it make sense to reduce these emissions anyway?”
I would be surprised if many people were opposed to inexpensive methods of reducing CO2 emissions. Just as long as we are not “betting the farm” on a belief that is not yet unequivocally proven.
DebbieDoRight - Conned And Confused
January 8th, 2013
3:16 pm
All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others:
Crier, Your Delta Tau Chi name is… Flouncing With Crazy.
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Funny!
Common and Stevie —
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 8th, 2013
3:16 pm
JHM
Don’t get me started on the Arthur Androids and their ages LOL (I had shoes their age at the time)
getalife
January 8th, 2013
3:16 pm
Common,
I cringed when brent got creepy.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
January 8th, 2013
3:16 pm
And what were the averages for the other continents during the same period? I seem to recall Europe had a rather harsh winter last year. Gotta look at the entire elephant to get the total picture.
DawgDad
January 8th, 2013
3:16 pm
So, if there is “global warming” in the continental US then we’ll ultimately all migrate to Canada where they’ve solved the Health Care crisis, right?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
3:18 pm
DIA — “Typical response by one of the Bookmanbots…”
So is it selling something to the Ay-rabs that makes one lose credibility? ‘Cause we’ve sold ‘em lots and lots of fighter jets and AWACS planes. Therefore, the US and the Presidents and lawmakers who agreed to those deals are likewise without credibility, right?
Right?
Or is it just when a liberal sells them something?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 8th, 2013
3:19 pm
Al Gore lost any credibility with that ridiculous money making film about alledged truth and then immediately setting up a “green” fund to capitalize anything green… even the NYT’s suggested Gore is simply making money out of scaring the left et al…
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/11/02/nyt-admits-gore-making-fortune-global-warming
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 8th, 2013
3:20 pm
get
I cringed when brent got creepy
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Yep, he even gives us dirty old men a bad name
skipper
January 8th, 2013
3:20 pm
DawgDad,
“Thats funny, I don’t care who you are……….”
Atlanta Native
January 8th, 2013
3:20 pm
This is how Hollywood told me to think:
Sheryl Crow demanded that we all use one square of toilet paper per bathroom visit to help save the planet. Her touring requirements, include three tractor trailers, four buses and six cars. John Travolta told everyone to “do their bit” to fight global warming, warning that “We have to think about alternative methods of fuel.” He has 5 private jets that has produced an estimated 800 tons of carbon emissions just last year, 100 times more than the average. Al Gore is the messiah for the climate change. Gore’s 20 room private mansion uses 20 times the national U.S. average of gas and electricity, as Gore lavishes himself in his heated swimming pool while poor people and the middle class await the onslaught of carbon taxes to eviscerate any disposable income they have left. Madonna, owns at least 6 gas-guzzling cars including a Mercedes Maybach, two Range Rovers, Audi A8s and a Mini Cooper S. Last year “Madonna flew as many as 100 technicians, dancers, backing singers, managers and family members on a 56-date world tour in private jets and commercial airliners.” The singer’s Confessions tour produced 440 tonnes of CO2 in four months. Red Hot Chili Peppers, use private jets, yet are set to throw their stardom behind an effort to propagandize the notion that we are producing too many carbon emissions. If you still believe in the notion of man-made global warming, then you should be very concerned about the fact that the leading proponents of the theory are all giant hypocrites espousing outlandish and radical measures to combat climate change while fearmongering about doomsday scenarios that will befall us unless we all drastically reduce our carbon footprints, while their own carbon footprints dwarf the average person’s by a hundred times or more.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
January 8th, 2013
3:21 pm
But Al Gore needs that money. He has an Ex to support and chasing PYTs is not cheap.
getalife
January 8th, 2013
3:21 pm
President Clinton urged big investors to invest in green energy after the Internet bubble collapsed but they chose housing instead and it collapsed the global economy.
Green energy is good for our planet and jobs.
It is a win win.
It’s a no brainer so the cons are against it.
F. Sinkwich
January 8th, 2013
3:21 pm
“Americans can now see the sustained warmth over the course of their own lifetimes, something we haven’t seen before.”
Kewl.
I don’t think the shot at Fox was necessary, Jay. I think most conservatives acknowledge climate cycles. Now we’re on a warming one. No big deal in the scheme of things.
Eco-weenies are Chicken-Littles pretty much demanding everyone significantly change their lifestyles so they can feel better about themselves somehow.
Lib ilks really like to feel good on other peoples dime. Must be a DNA thing.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
January 8th, 2013
3:22 pm
I cringed when brent got creepy
I bet Kirk also had some ’splainin to do when he got home.
indigo
January 8th, 2013
3:22 pm
Gas and oil companies will deny any involvment in global warming for the same reason tobacco companies denied their products were dangerous, namely MONEY.
Big Oil knows it would cost them a great deal of money to produce fuels with less greenhouse emissions.
Republican politicians, who get much of their campaign cash from Big Oil, will fight to the political death to stop any meaningful greenhouse emissions legislation.
Simple tools of Big Business and The Republican Party, who abound here, will fervently support those who could not possibly care less about them or the future of their children.
Republican politicians and Big Oil are absolutely counting on the continued support of these mindless tools. Based on the ones who post here, Business and Republicans have nothing to worry about.
East Lake Ira
January 8th, 2013
3:23 pm
Shemp Hannity (sp?) says you are wrong Jay:
Snow.
See how easy that was? And you pretend to be so open-minded and all…
getalife
January 8th, 2013
3:24 pm
Please don’t post rw media until they work on their credibility.
Thanks.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
3:24 pm
S. Ray — “I think the incentives were on the revenue side of the accountants. Without “adequate” evaluation, they refused to sign off on financials in many cases.”
I didn’t deal much with the consultants who did financial auditing. Most of the people I worked with were either IT or were ‘financial engineers,’ who helped ensure that financial data flow was accurate and appropriate and that internal controls were maintained.
That said, we did sometimes score significant bonuses, particularly when we beat deadlines by appreciable amounts.
C. Sense — “JHM Don’t get me started on the Arthur Androids and their ages LOL (I had shoes their age at the time)”
You noticed it, too, huh?
At some of the project checkpoint meetings, I swore I felt like I was back in grad school and that I should get up and start the day’s classroom lecture to those kids.
DannyX
January 8th, 2013
3:25 pm
“This is how Hollywood told me to think:”
No its not Atlanta Native @ 3:20, you ripped that off.
DownInAlbany
January 8th, 2013
3:25 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
3:18 pm
I’m not surprised that you defend Gore. Typical liberal response. Gore sells his tv station to one of the largest oil-producers (we are debating global warming, fossil fuels, etc, right?) on the planet and nary a peep from the left! You guys really take the cake!
DinahDoLittle
January 8th, 2013
3:25 pm
“Crier, Your Delta Tau Chi name is… Flouncing With Crazy.”
I know, right? BTW, how are you and your old beaus Bluto, Pinto and Flounder doing these days DDR?
DownInAlbany
January 8th, 2013
3:27 pm
Atlanta Native
January 8th, 2013
3:20 pm
You are wasting your the tips of your fingers on this crowd, Native. Don’t you know that hypocrisy only exists on the right…at least to this bunch!
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
3:27 pm
A. Native — “If you still believe in the notion of man-made global warming, then you should be very concerned about the fact that the leading proponents of the theory are all giant hypocrites espousing outlandish and radical measures to combat climate change while fearmongering about doomsday scenarios that will befall us unless we all drastically reduce our carbon footprints, while their own carbon footprints dwarf the average person’s by a hundred times or more.”
Not Gore.
He doesn’t argue that we should reduce consumption. He argues that we should reduce our carbon footprints. And to that end, he’s been paying for carbon offsets for that mansion for *years.*
Like him or hate him, he’s been doing *exactly* what he encourages others to do.
DebbieDoRight - Conned And Confused
January 8th, 2013
3:28 pm
DannyX You are pathetic in that you and your gang want to control what others think and say. I don’t watch Fox or CNBC because both are one sided. It’s sad that people get so critical towards others just because they may have a different opinion. That’s not good.
That’s right!! Just because DannyX gave his OPINION, and like he didn’t say YOU’D BETTER READ AND BELIEVE MY OPINION, and just because he based his OPINION in FACTS, doesn’t mean nuthin!!
Take your freaking FACTS DannyX and smoke ‘em! We don’t need no stinkin facts! ‘Love your Friend, Debs” PS: Don’t forget the Merlot when you come to dinner next week! Smooches.
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Redneck: Well, walk around the Auburn campus long enough and you’re bound to run into a woman that don’t resemble the local livestock.
This. Means. WAR. Redneck!
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DawgDad: Think about the FACTS. Facts are, in the early years of my lifetime no so many people lived in the South and Southwest. Then came air conditioning; jobs moved and people moved (consider how many Atlantans aren’t native Georgians). We did NOT need the Federal Government or taxation or carbon trading schemes or the like to recognize
Facts is DawgDad, perhaps you shouldn’t DRINK your lunch……..just saying……
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The weather is constantly changing….history is full of ice-ages, warmer times, etc. If all plants close down today, no fires are built, and everyone is in the dark it probably would not affect the weather noticibly.
My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.
getalife
January 8th, 2013
3:28 pm
I got this error:
“Error establishing a database connection”
This blog has connection issues.
Towncrier
January 8th, 2013
3:29 pm
“I don’t think the shot at Fox was necessary, Jay. I think most conservatives acknowledge climate cycles.”
One needs to throw meet to the ravenous dogs or be eaten oneself. Or maybe he really believes that stuff (perhaps because he wasn’t asked to replace Colmes). Who knows?
Regnad Kcin
January 8th, 2013
3:30 pm
“And on top of that, the very idea of making Al Gore (”lock-bokth”…yes, that is how the lisping fumble lip pronounced “lock-box”)”
Hatred based upon a lisp – quite unseemly. I think this says a lot about you, and about how much attention we should pay to your opinions.
DannyX
January 8th, 2013
3:30 pm
“Don’t you know that hypocrisy only exists on the right”
Well it sure was obvious when you called out Gore for selling to the Arabs while you were watching “Fox and Saudi Friends.”
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 8th, 2013
3:30 pm
JHM
Funny story. I sat in on a meeting (all kids) where they were debating how to change the vendor software to be Y2k complaint. I finally spoke up and asked what version were they talking about . They said the 97 version (this was 98). I asked when the next version was to be released. They said they already had it but were testing the older version to see what changes needed to be made.
They hadn’t even checked the flippin current release to see if it was complaint. I got up and left them with the advice to TEST the most recent release before they called me again.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
3:31 pm
DIA — “I’m not surprised that you defend Gore.”
I didn’t *defend* Gore. I asked *you* for more details about *your* complaint. Please elaborate on what makes someone lose credibility vis-a-vis ’selling things to Ay-Rabs.’ Please pay closer attention to what I *actually* say, not to what you wish I had said.
“Typical liberal response.”
Typical cowardly conservative dodge. Tell me if selling things other than TV stations to Ay-Rabs renders one ‘without credibility,’ please.
“Gore sells his tv station to one of the largest oil-producers (we are debating global warming, fossil fuels, etc, right?) on the planet and nary a peep from the left!”
Would you be happy if he’d sold it to an American? Yes?
Go look and see where we rank on the oil-and-gas-producing ladder, then.
“You guys really take the cake!”
Once again, is it selling something to the Ay-rabs that makes one lose credibility? ‘Cause we’ve sold ‘em lots and lots of fighter jets and AWACS planes. Therefore, the US and the Presidents and lawmakers who agreed to those deals are likewise without credibility, right?
Right?
Or is it just when a liberal sells them something?
DownInAlbany
January 8th, 2013
3:32 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
3:27 pm
Yeah, he purchase those carbon credits from a company that he OWNS, Generation Investment Management! Wow, there’s a sucker born every minute!
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
3:34 pm
C. Sense — “They hadn’t even checked the flippin current release to see if it was complaint. I got up and left them with the advice to TEST the most recent release before they called me again.”
I have absolutely no doubt that your story is true.
DebbieDoRight - Conned And Confused
January 8th, 2013
3:34 pm
I know, right? BTW, how are you and your old beaus Bluto, Pinto and Flounder doing these days DDR?
You caught that reference? A true fan huh? One of my all time FAVES is Animal House!
My old beaus are doing fine — Pinto got married, got divorced, got remarried, got divorced again, and then fell in love with a guy named Bob and finally figured out why his marriages never worked!
Otter became GWB’s publicists; and after the debacle of two wars, an exploding budget and massive job loss, he gave Bush the following speech to say on Face The Nation:
You can’t hold a whole Cabinet responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn’t we blame the whole Political system? And if the whole Political system is guilty, then isn’t this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you,America – isn’t this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we’re not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America!
getalife
January 8th, 2013
3:36 pm
It is great to have a President invested in green energy.
I think that is the best we will get on this issue.
All that money big oil spent to fight it worked.
The gop refuse to cut big oil welfare is the proof they won.
DownInAlbany
January 8th, 2013
3:36 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
3:31 pm
It’s ARabs. Please pay closer attention to what I *actually* say, not to what you wish I had said.
Redcoat
January 8th, 2013
3:36 pm
The temp may be going up, but you don’t have a thing to do with it and there is nothing you can do to change it. Reminds me of the stories about rainmakers………
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
3:37 pm
DIA — “Yeah, he purchase those carbon credits from a company that he OWNS, Generation Investment Management!”
Thanks for the assist, DIA!
Always good to have a conservative admit that other conservatives are wrong on the details!
“Wow, there’s a sucker born every minute!”
I know, right? Al Gore *runs* with the idea of selling carbon offsets — which was a *Republican* idea of how to profit from pollution — and conservatives get a case of the raging, red-azzed JEALOUS because they didn’t run with the idea themselves.
I know it hurts your tender feefees that hippie money isn’t jingling in conservative pockets, DIA. Better luck next time! (laughing, pointing)
guy
January 8th, 2013
3:38 pm
Stevie Ray, I have listened to them some on the left and right. Both get paid huge bucks to entertain. Who knows? (I listen to the left the least but both are very entertaining) They can’t change a darn thing! Ever listened to Michael Savage???????
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
3:38 pm
DIA — “It’s ARabs.”
Actually, it’s “Arabs.” And I can pronounce it however I please.
DownInAlbany
January 8th, 2013
3:41 pm
So, Joe, Gore purchasing carbon credits from himself helps the planet? (laughing, pointing)
gotalight?
January 8th, 2013
3:41 pm
“It is great to have a President invested in green energy.”
True dat. The problem is he didn’t invest enough:
http://blog.heritage.org/2012/10/18/president-obamas-taxpayer-backed-green-energy-failures/
We should have borrowed at least several trillion to subsidize companies like these. No doubt they would have succeeded then.
Regnad Kcin
January 8th, 2013
3:41 pm
“I don’t think the shot at Fox was necessary, Jay. I think most conservatives acknowledge climate cycles. Now we’re on a warming one. No big deal in the scheme of things.
Eco-weenies are Chicken-Littles pretty much demanding everyone significantly change their lifestyles so they can feel better about themselves somehow”
Double-standard much, sinky?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 8th, 2013
3:42 pm
heritage.org
There’s your sign.
getalife
January 8th, 2013
3:43 pm
Some will fail like Internet companies.
You seek perfection in government?
Get a grip on reality.
Erwin's cat
January 8th, 2013
3:44 pm
I guess I’m one of those who “got their head buried in the sand”…me and Burt Rutan
That said, I see no reason why we shouldn’t be good stewards of the planet
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
3:45 pm
DIA — “So, Joe, Gore purchasing carbon credits from himself helps the planet?”
One, that’s not what you claimed.
Two, that’s not what he’s doing.
Three, if you have to lie or make stuff up to support your position, you’ve already lost.
“(laughing, pointing)”
I like how you can fail and still laugh at yourself, Punkin.
BTW, did you know that Gore’s *also* been purchasing green-generated power from his local power authority for at least three or four years now? (giggling)
Upchuck
January 8th, 2013
3:45 pm
“There’s your sign.”
Wait…I posted that in my yard this morning. Why are you saying…uuhh…[Lifts toilet seat] HUUUURGGEHH…
Thomas heyward Jr
January 8th, 2013
3:46 pm
“Federal scientists said that the data were ………………………………”
.
I quit reading there.
Clearly, their solution is to send more money to Barney Frank.
.
I really don’t know what the bigger joke is.
Federal scientists or…………
global warming or………………………
those patsies like AmVet or Kamchak that beleive in it.
.
Regardless…………all of them are quite amusing.
.
lol
DownInAlbany
January 8th, 2013
3:47 pm
Jay, what, exactly, is “…so glaringly apparent”?
DownInAlbany
January 8th, 2013
3:48 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
3:45 pm
DIA — “So, Joe, Gore purchasing carbon credits from himself helps the planet?”
One, that’s not what you claimed.
Two, that’s not what he’s doing.
Proof? Please include a link.
Cherokee
January 8th, 2013
3:48 pm
What’s always so irritating about this topic and the right wing noise machine response, is that we all are already paying for climate change problems.
Bought homeowners insurance lately? I work for an insurance company – a large conservative insurance company – with a fiduciary duty to protect its investors. We certainly are taking climate change seriously, and we all will pay more for insurance as a result.
We all are going to pay for the hurricanes and drought and fires and tornadoes caused by a warming planet.
Regnad Kcin
January 8th, 2013
3:48 pm
“Yeah, he purchase those carbon credits from a company that he OWNS, Generation Investment Management! Wow, there’s a sucker born every minute”
If you think about it, I bet even YOU can see the logical error in your rant…
getalife
January 8th, 2013
3:49 pm
tom,
Your hero alex jones was on cnn.
What a kook.
DownInAlbany
January 8th, 2013
3:49 pm
BTW, did you know that Gore’s *also* been purchasing green-generated power from his local power authority for at least three or four years now?
Proof? Please include a link.
Towncrier
January 8th, 2013
3:49 pm
“Eco-weenies are Chicken-Littles pretty much demanding everyone significantly change their lifestyles so they can feel better about themselves somehow”
Eco-weenies? That’s funny. I think the other tag (if you’re going to use them) probably should be “Chicken-liberals”. Ad Hominen Argumentation 101.
getalife
January 8th, 2013
3:50 pm
“We all are going to pay for the hurricanes and drought and fires and tornadoes caused by a warming planet.”
60 billion for sandy.
Towncrier
January 8th, 2013
3:51 pm
“Federal scientists…”
A fine sounding oxymoron.
Erwin's cat
January 8th, 2013
3:51 pm
lions, and tigers, and bears…Oh my!
Towncrier
January 8th, 2013
3:53 pm
‘Jay, what, exactly, is “…so glaringly apparent”?’
The sun shining 5 more minutes a day on average. If you look up, you’ll get his point.
getalife
January 8th, 2013
3:58 pm
After our country is destroyed by extreme weather the cons will say it was Gore’s fault.
TaxPayer
January 8th, 2013
3:59 pm
Burt Rutan.
There’s your sign.
DownInAlbany
January 8th, 2013
3:59 pm
Joe, Gore’s home uses about 18,500 kwh per month. At, let’s say, $.09 per kwh, his utility bill is about $1670 per month. He purchases “green” energy to the tune of about $430 per month. Hooray for him!
Tom Middleton
January 8th, 2013
4:00 pm
Well, maybe when the Republicans finish self-destructing, we can finally get all the immigration reform, jobs, peace, and global cooling we need for the future, Jay. I mean, when a minority party won’t do anything but stop the majority from much-needed progress, what else could we be waiting for that will do us any good? Nothing!
DownInAlbany
January 8th, 2013
4:00 pm
getalife
January 8th, 2013
3:58 pm
And, the left will blame Bush!
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
January 8th, 2013
4:00 pm
This just in from the AJC….global warming is coming in a few days.
“Cool temperatures will warm into the 70s by the weekend”
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/cool-temperatures-will-warm-into-the-70s-by-the-we/nTqHN/
getalife
January 8th, 2013
4:01 pm
Speaking of credibility, this guy predicted the collapse:
“9 Facts That Prove Joe Stiglitz Is Right About Climate Change Hurting The Economy”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/08/joe-stiglitz-climate-change-economy_n_2432744.html
getalife
January 8th, 2013
4:03 pm
“And, the left will blame Bush!”
No, they will blame you cons and your failed party.
Erwin's cat
January 8th, 2013
4:04 pm
Of course, if you’ve got your head buried in the sand — or your eyes and ears fixed to Fox News
Why end the essay with a criticism (if not an insult) of those that might disagree with you? To limit debate?
barking frog
January 8th, 2013
4:05 pm
With all the glacial melting, here in florida the water is all the way up to the beach.
Jm
January 8th, 2013
4:06 pm
How hot is Atlanta going to get?
The place is already hell during the summer…..
JamVet
January 8th, 2013
4:06 pm
I miss the good old days a couple of years ago when our scientifically illiterate cons blamed volcanoes, cow flatulence and sunspots.
getalife
January 8th, 2013
4:06 pm
cat,
Your media has zero credibility.
Erwin's cat
January 8th, 2013
4:07 pm
get – who watches Fox News
getalife
January 8th, 2013
4:08 pm
cat,
Do you read drudgey?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
4:09 pm
DIA — “Proof? Please include a link.”
Sure, just as soon you explain how selling things to the Ay-Rabs leaves one ‘without credibility.’ We need to be able to determine which Republicans have violated your standard and are therefore, left without credibility.
TaxPayer
January 8th, 2013
4:09 pm
Jay! How could you call out Fox News! After all, they probably have a whole bunch of unskewed data from Karl Rove proving that the earth is actually getting cooler as we type.
indigo
January 8th, 2013
4:10 pm
Thomas Hewyard, Jr – 3:36
That post qualifies you as the biggest Republican and Business patsie here.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
4:10 pm
DIA — “Joe, Gore’s home uses about 18,500 kwh per month. At, let’s say, $.09 per kwh, his utility bill is about $1670 per month. He purchases “green” energy to the tune of about $430 per month. Hooray for him!”
Your concession is noted and appreciated.
guy
January 8th, 2013
4:11 pm
Erwin’s cat, So not to stoop to the level of those who will argue with a signboard about things that we and they can’t control. Got better things to do! Have a great night!
alex
January 8th, 2013
4:12 pm
prozac for jamvet, debbie and jay and his syncophants should “chill” the enviroment a few degrees …add to the water at Fox and we’d be in sweaters in July!
TaxPayer
January 8th, 2013
4:13 pm
So not to stoop to the level of those who will argue with a signboard about things that we and they can’t control.
Incontinence is a real pisser.
getalife
January 8th, 2013
4:13 pm
We can control pollution.
We can develop alternative and cleaner energy.
We can treat our planet better.
alex
January 8th, 2013
4:16 pm
@ Erwin, need rational objectivity..? Unfortunately you are in the wrong blog, at least he did not use “republican extremist” to explain global temperatures….
Jm
January 8th, 2013
4:17 pm
“We can develop alternative and cleaner energy.”
Natural Gas: cheap, cleaner, and American Made.
DownInAlbany
January 8th, 2013
4:17 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
4:09 pm
He’s supposed to be the face of clean energy and just sold the channel to very big oil, the emir of Qatar.
Your turn.
Bob
January 8th, 2013
4:17 pm
I thought it was the right wing nutjobs that thought earth was only thousands of years old but many lift wing nut jobs must think the same. We have warmed and cooled many times over yet whine about temps showing the warmest year in the last 150 years. Jay, could you give us an optimum temp for Atlanta today ? Can you venture to give us an average temp for the last 10,000 years ? We know that earth was once a frozen mass, or some of us do anyway. Good thing for global warming then. The Sahara desert was once a wetlands and actually has changed back and forth about every twenty thousand years. Can anyone give a reason why it warmed and dried prior to “global warming”.
Brosephus™
January 8th, 2013
4:19 pm
JHM @ 4:09
Wouldn’t one have to figure out whether they were Christian Arabs, Jewish Arabs, or Muslim Arabs first to determine the credibility issue?
Boris Badnoff
January 8th, 2013
4:19 pm
Strange how Global Warming makes one half the globe colder than Hillary’s thighs
http://rt.com/news/cold-moscow-december-russia-757/
but the other half is hotter than Sandra Fluke’s shorts at a Merchant Marine convention. Remarkable theory. If it’s hot it’s because of Global Warming, if it’s cold it’s because of Global Warming, and if the temperature is constant it’s because of Global Warming. Remembering the Ice Age storm of two Januarys ago, bring on that Global Warming; I hate sweaters and my tire chains are still in the trunk.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
4:19 pm
DIA — “IF Al Gore had one ounce of credibility, he lost it by selling his station to the ARabs”
So is it selling something to the Ay-rabs that makes one lose credibility? ‘Cause we’ve sold ‘em lots and lots of fighter jets and AWACS planes. Therefore, the US and the Presidents and lawmakers who agreed to those deals are likewise without credibility, right?
Right?
Or is it just when a liberal sells them something?
Regnad Kcin
January 8th, 2013
4:20 pm
“…sold the channel to very big oil, the emir of Qatar.”
I thought he sold it to Al-Jazeera? Do you have a link to where he sold it to the emir, instead? Thanks in advance.
Towncrier
January 8th, 2013
4:20 pm
“Why end the essay with a criticism (if not an insult) of those that might disagree with you? To limit debate?”
Well, EC, it seems that to many liberals (and conservatives as well, to be fair) insulting others IS argumentation.
Erwin's cat
January 8th, 2013
4:21 pm
Do you read drudgey?
what is that?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 8th, 2013
4:21 pm
Brosephus — “Wouldn’t one have to figure out whether they were Christian Arabs, Jewish Arabs, or Muslim Arabs first to determine the credibility issue?”
See, I don’t think he’s even going to go that far. And I’m still interested in what he’s got to say to DannyX’s question a@ 3:14:
Did the Saudi who owns all of that News Corp (Fox News) stock buy Current?
Oh, teh stoopit, how it do burn!