Chuck Hagel the right man at the right time

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Chuck Hagel has always defied categorization, which is one reason I’ve liked and respected him.

Of course, that also explains why Hagel’s nomination as defense secretary faces opposition from elements of both political parties. Washington likes people who can be “counted on,” meaning that they adhere to the brightly defined lines that are used to distinguish “us” from “them.” People such as Hagel, who pay little attention to such lines, are viewed with suspicion and distrust by some.

In Hagel’s case, he is Republican, but according to conservatives not a “real” Republican. He is a war veteran who earned two Purple Hearts in Vietnam as an enlisted Army infantryman, but his thoughts on foreign policy reveal a sophisticated doubt about the usefulness of war. Although he voted in favor of the invasion of Iraq, he quickly became a harsh critic of the conduct of that war. Most of all, Hagel is a questioner by nature, and he is more willing to follow where the answers lead him than are most in the nation’s Capitol.

I strongly disagree with Hagel on some points, particularly on his willingness to defer to intelligence and law enforcement when constitutional rights supposedly conflict with national security concerns. Back in the late ’90s, Hagel also publicly opposed the nomination of James Hormel as a U.S. ambassador on the grounds that Hormel was “”openly, aggressively gay.”

Those words reflected a depth of homophobia that did not speak well of Hagel. But it is also true that the country as a whole has moved a long way on gay rights in the past two decades, and if Hagel has moved along with it, as he now claims, that should not disqualify him from high service.

On the other hand, the claim by some that Hagel is somehow anti-Israel or even anti-Semitic because he has been willing to question the decisions of Israeli political leadership is and always has been nonsense. Nothing that Hagel has said or done on such issues places him outside the mainstream in this country or even in Israel itself, and certainly do not disqualify him from service as U.S. defense secretary.

Hagel’s nomination comes at an important point in this nation’s military and foreign-policy history. The world has changed; our relative position in the world has changed as well. But those changes are not yet reflected in our defense structure, policy and ideology. By his background, intellect and questioning nature, Hagel is well-suited to that role.

Politically speaking, the Hagel nomination also plays into the meta-narrative that the White House appears to be spinning these days. By nominating a Republican ex-senator to a top Cabinet position, Obama can claim credit for a gesture of bipartisanship. To the degree that Senate Republicans erupt in outrage, attempting to bar their former colleague from service on grounds of being insufficiently conservative, they cement their image as extremists unwilling to compromise. So it will be interesting to watch how they play this.

– Jay Bookman

448 comments Add your comment

Adam

January 7th, 2013
2:53 pm

I am not thrilled about his nomination. But I don’t think it matters who Obama puts up for nomination. Republicans are determined to be all anti-Obama about it.

Adam

January 7th, 2013
2:54 pm

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

January 7th, 2013
2:54 pm

Agreed…be awesome if he could deliver a plan to significantly reduce defense budget. I also like the fact that being or formerly being a republican, he pisses off current GOP base..That’s enough for me..

Adam

January 7th, 2013
2:57 pm

Most of all, Hagel is a questioner by nature, and he is more willing to follow where the answers lead him than are most in the nation’s Capitol.

I changed my mind. THOSE are the people we need in office and cabinet positions.

ALL of the people in Washington should think like this. Or, at least most of them should.

stands for decibels

January 7th, 2013
2:57 pm

Simple Truths

January 7th, 2013
2:58 pm

I guess Jay received his marching orders…

Adam

January 7th, 2013
2:59 pm

By nominating a Republican ex-senator to a top Cabinet position, Obama can claim credit for a gesture of bipartisanship. To the degree that Senate Republicans erupt in outrage, attempting to bar their former colleague from service on grounds of being insufficiently conservative, they cement their image as extremists unwilling to compromise.

BINGO

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 7th, 2013
3:02 pm

I guess Jay received his marching orders…

drudgey spammers say, “What?”

barking frog

January 7th, 2013
3:04 pm

The President should be able to have the Cabinet he wants.

larry

January 7th, 2013
3:05 pm

I didnt know that questioning a foreign government’s leadership made you anti-Semitic. I think we have every right to question a foreign government’s leadership, especially if you are supplying 3/4 of their defense budget .

Brosephus™: "Team Gump will prevail over Team Rudy"

January 7th, 2013
3:06 pm

I saw the writing on the wall long ago. Seems as though Obama wants practical people who are willing to follow the info as opposed to following ideology. I’m neither for nor against this pick, but I saw this one coming long ago.

Regnad Kcin

January 7th, 2013
3:09 pm

“I guess Jay received his marching orders…”

If you have nothing to say, please don’t say it…

Adam

January 7th, 2013
3:09 pm

The President should be able to have the Cabinet he wants.

I like you, barking frog, and this is not a dig at you specifically, but…

I would like to point out this is one of those rare times I have seen a left-wing talking point get so much play. This one is repeated almost verbatim and I do not like that.

By the way, I saw a Tea Party Express chairwoman on TV Sunday, and she had some very reasonable things to say. She seemed a bit angry when talking about spending cuts, but the news anchor wasn’t there to debate her, just ask questions. Under that environment, it seemed she was making sense on us cutting some spending, on the reasons Congress generally doesn’t deal with it, and on the reasons that the GOP didn’t gain seats this year, which was that the GOP stayed off the economic message and focused on being anti-Obama and social issues (she incorrectly identified the Republicans as at fault, and Tea Party as blameless).

File this one under “Proof I am a registered Republican.”

Though I’m seriously thinking of changing it to Independent. Democrats are certainly being too whiney about not getting their way over the fiscal cliff fight and Obamacare and so on.

Erwin's cat

January 7th, 2013
3:09 pm

By nominating a Republican ex-senator to a top Cabinet position, Obama can claim credit for a gesture of bipartisanship. To the degree that Senate Republicans erupt in outrage, attempting to bar their former colleague from service on grounds of being insufficiently conservative, they cement their image as extremists unwilling to compromise.

so we are appointing top cabinet positions to just make the other side look bad?

Regnad Kcin

January 7th, 2013
3:11 pm

Anyone who hasn’t questioned the actions of Israel’s leadership hasn’t been paying attention.

Recon 0311 2533

January 7th, 2013
3:12 pm

I think Hagel is well qualified and would make a good secretary of defense. I much prefer him to John Kerry. Unfortunately, it appears he’ll have a difficult time from both sides of the aisle.

moonbat betty

January 7th, 2013
3:13 pm

“so we are appointing top cabinet positions to just make the other side look bad?”

Of course, that’s their job!

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

January 7th, 2013
3:14 pm

ADAM

Be careful about identifying as independent. As I have learned, be prepared to get labeled as dirty GOP or DEM even if you consistently take the same positions which cross party lines..

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

January 7th, 2013
3:15 pm

Recon 0311 2533

January 7th, 2013
3:12 pm

If for no other reason, the fact he is getting flack from both sides is enough for me to be a big supporter…

Mr. Holmes

January 7th, 2013
3:17 pm

Most entertaining will be watching Jennifer Rubin–a one-trick pony if ever there was one–absolutely lose her ever-loving mind as Hagel’s confirmation becomes reality.

It’s fascinating that the same folks who become amorously aroused simply by saying the words “national sovereignty” are ready to farm out any aspect of our defense & foreign policies to a small Middle Eastern nation that is perpetually on the brink of war.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 7th, 2013
3:17 pm

so we are appointing top cabinet positions to just make the other side look bad?

Mitch McConnell says, “What?” “the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term President.”

Simple Truths

January 7th, 2013
3:18 pm

Kam and Reg,

I don’t really care what happens with Hagel. I do find it instructive that Jay conveniently falls in place in his regular spot in the soap opera. Thus, the marching orders…

JamVet

January 7th, 2013
3:18 pm

…just make the other side look bad?

The “other side” needs precious little help in that area, doncha think!!

That they keep getting punked by the prez is just an indication of how bad…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 7th, 2013
3:19 pm

Oops

so we are appointing top cabinet positions to just make the other side look bad?

Mitch McConnell says, “What?” “the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term President.”

Fly-On-The-Wall

January 7th, 2013
3:19 pm

I’m afraid some here are correct and this will just end up being a fight against anything the President wants regardless of how good it might be for the country.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

January 7th, 2013
3:20 pm

Is it possible to be anti-Zionist and not be labeled anti-semite?

HDB

January 7th, 2013
3:20 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 7th, 2013
3:22 pm

I do find it instructive that Jay conveniently falls in place in his regular spot in the soap opera.

I do find it instructive that you conveniently ignore the drudgey spammers. Thus, their marching orders…

Simple Truths

January 7th, 2013
3:23 pm

Kam,

If you want to post Kammey spam, that’s fine. My issue is with Jay, not you.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 7th, 2013
3:25 pm

Simple Truths

You posted on a open forum, sport.

You wanna address Jay directly, try email.

Town crybaby.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

td

January 7th, 2013
3:26 pm

Not even a fight worth having and a huge waste of time. The SOD still has to take his marching orders from the WH so it really does not matter who is in that job. The SOS is a fight worth having because that person goes all over the world representing this country. Kerry is a total traitor to the country and is a kept man. Do we really what that type of weakness highlighted around the world?

Granny Godzilla

January 7th, 2013
3:27 pm

I still can’t stop laughing at Mc Cains response…..

He has serious issues with Hagel.

The man who gave us the demi-term Governor of Alaska as a VP candidate….Will wonders never cease.

That said, they’ll be some silliness, but both nominations will be approved.

josef

January 7th, 2013
3:27 pm

JAY

The worst part is, I think you’re serious and not just spouting a party line. He’s a homophobic anti Semite. Ask the Nebraska Jewish community about the latter. The former? Yeah, sure. I’ve got a bridge to talk to you about. But then, you pretty much knew what I think.

Like I said when it came up. I can’t wait for the two step and talking out of both sides of the mouth. If it weren’t so important a position, this would be funny.

Boa, be d*mned…call me a drama queen if you want to. It matters little to me. You just went down along with Obama several pegs in my estimation.

Granny Godzilla

January 7th, 2013
3:29 pm

kept man?

wealthy wife envy!

silly, silly, silly

Thulsa Doom

January 7th, 2013
3:29 pm

“Chuck Hagel the right man at the right time”

I disagree. Nick Saban is the right man at the right time.

JamVet

January 7th, 2013
3:30 pm

This Hagel quote is still awesome: The Bush administration is the lowest in capacity, in capability, in policy, in consensus—almost every area of any presidency in the last forty years.

THAT is why the man deserves to be SecDef.

He is as smart and able as they were incompetent and deadly…

Simple Truths

January 7th, 2013
3:30 pm

Josef,

” You just went down along with Obama several pegs in my estimation.”

Your estimation can go lower than it previously did?

TBS

January 7th, 2013
3:33 pm

td

Not what you agree with or do not agree with in regards to your opinion, please cite the actually law(s) Kerry broke to be deemed a traitor then tell us why he wasn’t charged?

josef

January 7th, 2013
3:35 pm

TRUTHS

Of Jay or of Obama…? You obviously have not been paying attention. I have always held Jay in the highest esteem and Obama actually had begun to win me over. I had been giving him higher “marks” than several hereabouts of the moderate-liberal bent.

A Simple Man

January 7th, 2013
3:35 pm

He’s a politician. Reason enough NOT to like him without even knowing the party affiliation.

Let’s see. President “He-Who-Can-Do-No-Wrong is planning on raising taxes again instead of addressing the spending problem.

Boehner wins a second go-round as Speaker. How did that happen? Has there ever, and I do mean ever, been a worse Speaker of the House? Ever? John, please take the marbles out of your mouth and get a clue.

Clayton County elects Victor Hill. Need I say more?

Any wonder we’re in the shape we’re in?

stands for decibels

January 7th, 2013
3:35 pm

kept man?

wealthy wife envy!

Hey, I am envious of both Kerry AND McCain, that way. I’ll own up to it.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 7th, 2013
3:37 pm

Any wonder we’re in the shape we’re in?

I blame the middle age spread.

I have new year’s resolved to walk the local rails-to-trails.

stands for decibels

January 7th, 2013
3:38 pm

Ask the Nebraska Jewish community about the latter.

All ~6,100 of them, or just a particular group with a particular beef?

F. Sinkwich

January 7th, 2013
3:39 pm

Doesn’t much matter if he’s SecDef or not. At least he no longer can vote squishy in the Senate.

josef

January 7th, 2013
3:40 pm

SFD

I posted earlier the Nebraska community’s response. And, no, not a “little group of them,” but a wide cross section.

stands for decibels

January 7th, 2013
3:43 pm

If anyone was curious about Hagel’s current take on those idiotic comments he’d made about the ambassador to Belgium…

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/hagel-apologizes-about-remarks-against-gay-diplomat/

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 7th, 2013
3:44 pm

All for the man from what I have read and it has the added benefit that if there are cuts to the military, as there should be, that it would not just be a Democratic president cutting the budget, but a Republican SoD.

stands for decibels

January 7th, 2013
3:44 pm

I posted earlier the Nebraska community’s response.

Guess I missed it, sorry.

Ever been to Nebraska?

td

January 7th, 2013
3:45 pm

TBS

January 7th, 2013
3:33 pm

td

Not what you agree with or do not agree with in regards to your opinion, please cite the actually law(s) Kerry broke to be deemed a traitor then tell us why he wasn’t charged?

The day he showed up and stood next to Jane Fonda he should have been hanged. (before you start I know leftest organization have claimed the picture is photo shopped). If that was not enough then he should have been run out of the country for joining the Vets against the war movement that cost thousands of his fellow vets lives in Vietnam.

Thulsa Doom

January 7th, 2013
3:47 pm

“Although he voted in favor of the invasion of Iraq, he quickly became a harsh critic of the conduct of that war.”

Nothing wrong with that.

“Most of all, Hagel is a questioner by nature, and he is more willing to follow where the answers lead him than are most in the nation’s Capitol.”

Sounds like the kind of a guy that we need. I may have to applaud Obama on this choice.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 7th, 2013
3:48 pm

Well, like I said yesterday this Hagel’s a good solid redneck. He hates Jews and the Gays and he’s been to war and ain’t no draft-dodger. He knows how to tell people to kiss his keister. Best of all he’s got a R after his name.

Put that man in there pronto. We can forgive him being from Nebraska. A person can’t help being born in a dumb-arse state.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 7th, 2013
3:50 pm

Standing next to Jane Fonda is a capital offense?

Did you learn that at your “let’s all get together and listen to Rush Limbaugh on the radio” college jerk club?

Or was it in The Newterator’s KFC KSU class?

Joe Hussein Mama

January 7th, 2013
3:53 pm

td — “If that was not enough then he should have been run out of the country for joining the Vets against the war movement that cost thousands of his fellow vets lives in Vietnam.”

So Kerry had no First Amendment right to free association?

JamVet

January 7th, 2013
3:54 pm

The day he showed up and stood next to Jane Fonda he should have been hanged.

Fortunately you cowards can’t get away with that anymore…

Brosephus™: "Team Gump will prevail over Team Rudy"

January 7th, 2013
4:03 pm

So Kerry had no First Amendment right to free association?

Nope! If td determines something, then, by his all powerful knowledge, he is never wrong. So, do not question the wise and great one lest ye be pounded by his vast depository of fact.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 7th, 2013
4:03 pm

Because Sarah Palin has yet to weigh in on Hagel, the new interest rate policy, and the platinum coin, America is paralyzed with uncertainty

Heh, heh, heh.

Granny Godzilla

January 7th, 2013
4:04 pm

td

If that was not enough then he should have been run out of the country for joining the Vets against the war movement that cost thousands of his fellow vets lives in Vietnam

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Got some data on thousands of lives?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

January 7th, 2013
4:07 pm

Josef

Is it possible to be anti-zionist and not be anti-semite?

Joe Hussein Mama

January 7th, 2013
4:13 pm

Doom — “Sounds like the kind of a guy that we need. I may have to applaud Obama on this choice.”

I think this is one of the few times that Doom, Brosephus, 0311 and I will ever agree on anything.

I like the notion of an enlisted veteran leading the DoD at this turning point for the military. There are going to be hard choices and cuts to be made, and having a former groundpounder like Hagel as SecDef tells me that the average soldier, sailor, airman and Marine are going to have an advocate when those decisions are made.

Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom

January 7th, 2013
4:15 pm

At least Kerry had the cojones to go to Vietnam and complete his time as a combat platoon leader. Then he availed himself of the right all of us cherish, the right to free speech. I don’t agree with most of his politics but its a danged sight better than the weasely crap that W pulled with the Alabama National Guard. His Daddy may be a bonafide war hero, but he was a coward, unlike Mr Kerry.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 7th, 2013
4:21 pm

R. Lee — “At least Kerry had the cojones to go to Vietnam and complete his time as a combat platoon leader.”

FWIW, Kerry was a patrol boat commander (Navy) not a platoon leader (Army or Marine Corps). But you’d get shot at either way, so I guess it works out the same.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 7th, 2013
4:35 pm

Did one of the AJC’s IT guys leave his PB&J sandwich in the server?

Geez this site is wonky.

josef

January 7th, 2013
4:35 pm

SFD

Yes, I’ve been to Nebraska several times.

STEVIE
“Is it possible to be anti-zionist and not be anti-semite?”

If you had read some of what I’ve had to say on the subject, you would know that it is possible. Also, it is possible to be opposed to the current policies of the State of Israel without being an anti-Zionist.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

January 7th, 2013
4:37 pm

Kerry is a total traitor to the country and is a kept man. Do we really what that type of weakness highlighted around the world?

Seriously? I mean, weren’t you on here singing the praises of the Original Kept Man, Newt -I -Divorced -My-First -Wife – Who -Put -Me-Through-College -On- Her -Lousy-Teacher’s-Salary-For -Wife#2 -Then-Dumped-Her -For-Some -Chick-With – Money Gingrich?’

Seriously?

josef

January 7th, 2013
4:38 pm

L’CHAK

Glad to know it wasn’t just me! You know me and my paranoia! :-)

Logical Dude

January 7th, 2013
4:38 pm

I never did quite get around to figuring out what all the middle eastern leaders meant by the term “Zionist” (when talking about US, Europe, etc). The best I can tell is that it means those that think Israel should be a country.

Is the term only meant to mean “Israel should exist” or does it have a different meaning?

You know, just so I can be sure and not assume.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 7th, 2013
4:41 pm

Found some photos of young Specialist Hagel in Vietnam.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/diglib/vhp-stories/loc.natlib.afc2001001.02230/album

I see the blue infantry shoulder cord on his right side, but can anyone identify the brown or orange cord on his left side? Is that a French, Dutch or Belgian fourragere?

getalife

January 7th, 2013
4:41 pm

These blogs have connection issues.

He was against Iraq so the neocons are crying.

josef

January 7th, 2013
4:42 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 7th, 2013
4:42 pm

josef

My aircard decided to update software today, so I had my paranoia also.

But other sites are acting normally, so it has to be here.

JamVet

January 7th, 2013
4:43 pm

It amazes me that the new age cons have replaced the old hippy libs as those who “spit on” combat veterans.

Sucks to be them.

Brother Kam, yes this site is notoriously slow as molasses and problematic and today is no different!

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

January 7th, 2013
4:44 pm

wealthy wife envy!

Hey, I am envious of both Kerry AND McCain, that way. I’ll own up to it.

Kerry’s wife did NOT look happy at his SOS announcement. She looked like she’d rather be anywhere but there.

Jm

January 7th, 2013
4:44 pm

Real Scootter

January 7th, 2013
4:44 pm

Geez this site is wonky.

Thanks Kam!! I was about to ask somebody about that .Whew I thought it was my computer.

josef

January 7th, 2013
4:45 pm

K’CHAK

Yeah, I went some other places while waiting, too. Yahoo and Bing weren’t letting me in either.

getalife

Did you see where Bibi is putting up a fence along the Golan-Syria border? Putting it at the occupation line… :-)

TBS

January 7th, 2013
4:46 pm

td

Is there a reason that you were unable or unwilling to cite the law(s) that Kerry broke and why he was not charged for them?

I specifically asked you to refrain from your opinion and cite the facts in regards to the laws broke that made him a “traitor”.

You made the assertion. Is it as usual too hard for you to back hyperbole and talk points?

Cherokee

January 7th, 2013
4:47 pm

“Got some data on thousands of lives?”

Of course he doesn’t. But will that stop him?

Kerry’s decision to join the vets against the war movement probably saved lives.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

January 7th, 2013
4:48 pm

Howdy josef! Happy Monday! Saw the article in AJC on how GREAT Georgia’s teacher’s are — thought about you when i read it.

SIDE: Also saw the article where the Conned said the numbers were “skewered”. Typical.

Jm

January 7th, 2013
4:48 pm

“which is one reason I’ve liked and respected him.”

of course you do. he’s an Obama nominee

A google search, albeit brief, has never uncovered one previous utterance by Jay Bookman of a prior compliment for Mr. Hagel. And Jay writes a lot.

josef

January 7th, 2013
4:48 pm

LOGICAL

Just pay attention to who’s using the term, in what context, and the rest of the wording in what they say.

Skip

January 7th, 2013
4:48 pm

One more Viet Nam Vet for Hagel. Hay td, when and where were you in Nam? Maybe we served together.

TBS

January 7th, 2013
4:50 pm

td

Should all veterans of any war that speak out be “run out of the country”? What exact laws can you cite or as usual is this just more of your keyboard commando bravado?

Jm

January 7th, 2013
4:50 pm

“our relative position in the world has changed as well.”

Yes it has. And not for the better. Courtesy of Senor Obama.

JamVet

January 7th, 2013
4:50 pm

Nebraska cons are crazy. But they are not even in the same league as these fanatics in Dixie.

I remember Andy going all RINO over Hagel after the highly decorated (Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry, two Purple Hearts, Army Commendation Medal, and the Combat Infantryman Badge) senator made that observation vis a vis the Iraq surge and the greatest foreign policy blunder since Viet Nam.

My one reservation about him is that he joined in with the other 97% of Republicans and allowed that Imbecile in Charge to go in there in the first place.

An error in judgement so egregious, it is hard to overlook…

Towncrier

January 7th, 2013
4:51 pm

“It amazes me that the new age cons have replaced the old hippy libs as those who “spit on” combat veterans.”

Careful now, JV – some people here do not credit claims of combat veterans being spit upon by Vietnam War protesters and will likely disregard your comparison.

Granny Godzilla

January 7th, 2013
4:53 pm

Cherokee

I would think the same thing about saving lives…

I celebrate the anti-vietnam war protestors.

The helped to end that mess to be sure.

Jm

January 7th, 2013
4:53 pm

“By his background…. and questioning nature”

Maybe we should be nominating people previously employed as interrogators instead if this is a spectacular qualification. Rather than a guy who has minimal experience relative to prior Secretaries of Defense.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 7th, 2013
4:53 pm

Towncrier — “Careful now, JV – some people here do not credit claims of combat veterans being spit upon by Vietnam War protesters and will likely disregard your comparison.”

I can speak for myself, Towncrier.

And if you want to revisit that discussion, you can certainly chase down some of the claims yourself, as I did.

Lynnie Gal

January 7th, 2013
4:54 pm

Yes, Mr. Hagel is different from other Republicans. He’s different in that he actually served in the military and was awarded two purple hearts for courage. Because he has military experience, he knows first-hand the cost of war and he respects avoiding it whenever it is unnecessary. The other Republicans thump their chest and display their bravado, but when it was their time to serve in the military, they avoided service (with the exception of McCain.) Every one of the chicken-hawks who started the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan ran away from military service–Bush (who didn’t even show up for most of his service in the National Guard) Cheney (who had better things to do than go to Vietnam) and Rumsfeld (no explanation known). At least Mr. Hagel has walked the walk so he’s earned the right to talk the talk.

F. Sinkwich

January 7th, 2013
4:55 pm

Horseface may have “loathed” the military like Slick Willie but at least he wore the uni so he gets some points for that. However those points are deducted, and then some, for falsely accusing so many fine Americans of war criminality.

Jm

January 7th, 2013
4:55 pm

“Politically speaking, the Hagel nomination also plays into the meta-narrative that the White House appears to be spinning these days.”

Nominating someone to spin a narrative is a stupid reason to pick them for an incredibly important job. Oh I forgot, he’s pals with Obama. That also makes him imminently qualified.

I’ll be very interested to see how those currently serving view this choice.

Truth-O-Meter

January 7th, 2013
4:56 pm

Lindsey Graham says this is an “in your face” move by the president. Like who cares about his face.
The president gets to nominate the individual whom he believes will best serve the nation in that position. They went after Susan Rice as though the president’s only concern should be who Republicans want. Enough of these whiney people. The republicans have been on a four year temper tantrum and the people are sick of them.

JohnnyReb

January 7th, 2013
4:56 pm

Jay, do you have to parrot the White House talking points?

So you are OK with a defence secretary who cannot be counted on to maintain a course?

Hagel has long ago severed his ties to Republicans, so the line does not work for Obama or you.

If Hagel was not the Obama nominee, my guess is your forgiveness on his remarks about gays would not come so quick.

Hagel’s remarks on Israel are troubling. People do not change – see remarks on gays.

So you think Hagle well-suited for Defense Secretary, and you are OK with America no longer being the leader of Right? Obama thinks so, he is working as hard as possible to relegate us to a has-been power.

Obama likes Hagel because he is like Obama. Smart, not a team player.

And lastly, Republican opposition will not be because Hagel is not Conservative enough. How about because he is not the right man for the job regardless of what you and Barry think.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 7th, 2013
4:57 pm

Reinstate the draft without a college exemption and watch all the young conservative chickenhawks become isolationists

Heh, heh, heh.

F. Sinkwich

January 7th, 2013
4:57 pm

“…Bush (who didn’t even show up for most of his service in the National Guard)…”

Not intended to be a factual statement. *

* KammieSpam. All rights reserved.

TBS

January 7th, 2013
4:58 pm

“Oh I forgot, he’s pals with Obama. That also makes him imminently qualified.”

Harriet Miers anyone?

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

January 7th, 2013
5:00 pm

Rather than a guy who has minimal experience relative to prior Secretaries of Defense.

Seriously? I mean SERIOUSLY?

Are you sniffing cocaine or something? Please compare Hagel’s experience to that of the “Oooh I’m too scared to go to war! Help me Mommy!!” Rumsfeld.

My GOD! Where DO you come up with this crap?

You just sit around and pull it out of your azz with each fAA$$rt?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

January 7th, 2013
5:01 pm

Nominating someone to spin a narrative is a stupid reason to pick them for an incredibly important job.

Condoleezza Rice says, “What?”

The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.

Jm

January 7th, 2013
5:01 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

January 7th, 2013
5:03 pm

J. Reb — “America . . . the leader of Right”

What do you mean by this, exactly?