From the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics:
“Nonfarm payroll employment rose by 155,000 in December, and the unemployment rate was unchanged at 7.8 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment increased in health care, food services and drinking places, construction, and manufacturing….
The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for October was revised from +138,000 to +137,000, and the change for November was revised from +146,000 to +161,000.”
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Just to be clear, these are seasonally adjusted numbers, which means these 155,000 new jobs come on top of hiring that would normally be expected in the Christmas season.
While we’re on the subject, I’d also like to address this claim by John Boehner yesterday as he accepted the speaker’s gavel for another two-year term:
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“Our government has built up too much debt. Our economy is not producing enough jobs. These are not separate problems.
At $16 trillion and rising, our national debt is draining free enterprise and weakening the ship of state.
The American Dream is in peril so long as its namesake is weighed down by this anchor of debt. Break its hold, and we begin to set our economy free. Jobs will come home. Confidence will come back.”
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As economic analysis, that’s just total baloney. While our national debt constitutes a long-term challenge, it is not causing or exacerbating our current economic situation. If “our national debt is draining free enterprise,” if “this anchor of debt” is dragging us down, as Boehner alleges, then federal borrowing to finance the deficit would be driving interest rates sky high, making it difficult for private companies to borrow money.
That simply is not happening. The prime interest rate is 3.25 percent, exactly what it was a year ago. In fact, you’d have to go back to 1955 or earlier to find a lower prime rate. We have a lot of problems with the economy, but government borrowing driving out private borrowers is not one of them.
I don’t know whether Boehner actually believes that nonsense, or whether he’s just drawing what he hopes to be a politically useful connection. Either way, he is pushing a grossly misleading diagnosis.
– Jay Bookman
443 comments Add your comment
Granny Godzilla
January 4th, 2013
11:13 am
Christian Conservative
January 4th, 2013
10:52 am
Granny Godzilla:
Please Granny prove that he’s not…. LOL.. have you been living under a rock? Obama has amassed over $6 trillion in debt since he took office. He will have more than doubled it unless somehow the Repubs get a backbone and shut it down the next 4 years….
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reread your original post
them privately shame yourself.
Jay
January 4th, 2013
11:13 am
Again, Steve, that money still got included in annual deficit and spending numbers.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 4th, 2013
11:14 am
obama success
$5 Trillion in debt
unemployment still high
growth less than 2%
yes voters voted for that JAY
or maybe its like NIXON……… voters voted him twice……… was it his successes………. OR WAS THE OPPOSING PARTIES NOMINEES SO WEAK AND BAD THAT VOTERS WOULD TAKE NIXON/OBAMA OVER THEM????
mm
January 4th, 2013
11:14 am
I love how the cons have totally twisted around the CBO findings about the fiscal cliff law.
The CBO stated that the law would add 4 trillion to the debt by 2020.
The cons claim it is from spending.
The truth is it would be because of reduced revenue compared to letting the Bush tax cuts expire. You know, the exact same cause of most of our entire 16 trillion in debt. REDUCED REVENUE.
AmericaShrugged
January 4th, 2013
11:15 am
Steve – When Obama decided to send 50,000 more troops into Afghanistan that was a Bush expense? BTW you’re confused about that hiding the costs and the budget stuff. They were off budget expenses so they weren’t reportede as deficit but the total debt increase during the Bush years is accurate and includes the cost of the wars and was less per year than what Obama has run. If he and the dems didn’t want those expensive wars or Medicare D or the tax cuts, why didn’t they change that when they controlled congress in 2009-10??? Instead he sent mor etroops into Afghanistan and gave out a 2% SS reduction when SS was already facing insolvency. Truth is they both sucked in terms of the ME and deficit spending.
Steve
January 4th, 2013
11:15 am
http://costofwar.com/
not pretty
DannyX
January 4th, 2013
11:15 am
“DannyX – as Jay points out, the wars were “financed through supplemental appropriation bills””
That doesn’t mean they were paid for.
williebkind
January 4th, 2013
11:15 am
“A majority of American voters disagree with you, CC. Perhaps you should take it up with them.”
If is “is” is then maybe they do not disagree with CC but instead expected their free stuff.
stands for decibels
January 4th, 2013
11:16 am
Obama just cut taxes on 98% of Americans versus current law.
“Current” for what, sixteen hours?
jj
January 4th, 2013
11:16 am
At near zero interest rates the debt is nearly manageable, if rates return to normal historical levers, 5-6% 16 trillion will become 20 trillion in the blink of an eye. The fed is holding down the rate by printing money. And who doesn’t believe all this excess cash will eventually result in inflation? Oh wait I know the answer to this one. Jay Bookman
williebkind
January 4th, 2013
11:17 am
““DannyX – as Jay points out, the wars were “financed through supplemental appropriation bills””
That doesn’t mean they were paid for.”
No DannyX it was put on the credit card. Nobody pays that.
John Konop
January 4th, 2013
11:17 am
UNCLE SAMANTHA,
A few facts to consider about the budget. The last time we had a balance budget was when we were spending less than 4 % of GDP on defense and we were collecting about 18% of GDP in taxes. Since that time healthcare cost has been rising 2 to 3 times faster than GDP and defense spending almost doubled based on GDP. . Also seniors take out 3 dollars of healthcare for every 1 dollar they put in. Unless you understand the facts one cannot balance the budget.
Erwin's cat
January 4th, 2013
11:18 am
That doesn’t mean they were paid for.
as much as anything else
Jm
January 4th, 2013
11:18 am
jj
bingo
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 4th, 2013
11:18 am
“And who doesn’t believe all this excess cash will eventually result in inflation? ”
which is another reason why reasonable job growth such as what we have now is a good thing – it’s not overheating the market, causing hyperinflation.
Regnad Kcin
January 4th, 2013
11:19 am
“SYMPATHY LAW!”
willieb – Since this is a bill to redress a problem of her constituents, doesn’t that make ALL bills “sympathy laws?”
If not, by what criterion can we distinguish a “sympathy law” from any other?
John Konop
January 4th, 2013
11:19 am
One more thing we have been collecting around 16 % of GDP for taxes.
Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer...and Ban the Gun Thug!
January 4th, 2013
11:19 am
“My personal recommendation would be to end the Bush tax cuts immediately for the wealthiest of Americans, and to begin to gradually end them for the rest of us as well, perhaps over a four- or five-year period. That would have to be accompanied by cuts in defense spending — we can’t continue to spend more than every other major country on the planet combined — and also cuts in entitlements, such as changing how Social Security is indexed to inflation and instituting greater means testing in programs such as Medicare.”
I wholeheartedly agree. Until the GOP gets aggressive on meaningful cuts other than social ones, they are just pandering to the base. We need to cut Defense spending by three quarters on hardware alone. We don’t need it. Get serious on defense cuts and then come talk to me about social cuts…
Granny Godzilla
January 4th, 2013
11:19 am
I’m going to the ingles at lunchtime for some produce….
Do you think they’ll take an appropriations bill instead of a twenty dollar bill?
Paul
January 4th, 2013
11:19 am
Jm
“Paul 11:01 – Obama just cut taxes on 98% of Americans versus current law. And added immensely to the deficit in so doing. The wealthy are just going to be paying what they were going to be paying anyway under existing law.”
I heard this line of reasoning on Fox a few days ago, hit ‘pause’ and said to Mrs. Paul, “this is stunning… for years we’ve been hearing Obama wanted to raise taxes, that the way to cut the deficit was to cut taxes and increase economic growth. Now… now we hear Obama actually CUT taxes and when he did, he INCREASED the deficit.”
You guys can pivot, change stories in midsentence, never even pause and never, ever see the contradiction with the line you were peddling just minutes before.
RB from Gwinnett
January 4th, 2013
11:21 am
“Aaaaaaand I stopped reading. You want to engage in meaningful conversation? Show some respect.”
You’ve got nothing to dispute what I posted, do you?
Erwin's cat
January 4th, 2013
11:21 am
USinUK – which is another reason why reasonable job growth such as what we have now is a good thing
“flat”…it’s the new “up”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 4th, 2013
11:21 am
Who fricking cares about where the debt came from?
There’s your sign
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 4th, 2013
11:22 am
Erwin – 2% isn’t flat GDP – 0% is.
155K new jobs per month isn’t flat – no new jobs is.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 4th, 2013
11:23 am
privately shame yourself
As opposed to publicly shaming themselves here repeasted.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 4th, 2013
11:25 am
i love how liberals BELIEVE that spending has no CAUSE in debt…………….. its all not enough taxes………..
Erwin's cat
January 4th, 2013
11:25 am
USinUK – you mentioned unemployment and now deflect to GDP
unemployment remained unchanged at 7.8%……flat!
Peadawg
January 4th, 2013
11:27 am
“You’ve got nothing to dispute what I posted, do you?” – I certainly do but not when you start off your post with “peabrain”.
williebkind
January 4th, 2013
11:27 am
“willieb – Since this is a bill to redress a problem of her constituents, doesn’t that make ALL bills “sympathy laws?””
No it does not and what problems do her constituents have to need this bill except to feel good about themselves. They would never be safer.
Laws are for setting forth rules governing a particular kind of activity as allowed by the constitution. To perverse the constitution liberals have used tragedies and appealed to the sympathy of the public to pass laws that fit their agendas which normally restricts or takes away constitutional rights of law abiding citizens. Wake up! If a criminal wants to kill you are dead.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 4th, 2013
11:27 am
Jay — ” I meant other ways of addressing the fiscal challenges of Medicare and Social Security, which is what an extended retirement age is intended to achieve.”
Right, that’s what I was looking for.
Perhaps you might consider favoring us with a blog post on that topic in the not-too-distant future?
Jm
January 4th, 2013
11:28 am
I hope this is the End of Chavez
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 4th, 2013
11:29 am
half a mind – “I just pissed myself laughing so hard. I know you can do a lot better than that.”
dearheart, your incontinence isn’t my problem
to substantiate my post about how people are working longer hours:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=93364&page=1#.UOcC7Xfh8Ss
They aren’t the only ones finding long hours in at least certain parts of the workforce. According to a Bureau of Labor Statistics report released last year, more than 25 million Americans — 20.5 percent of the total workforce — reported they worked at least 49 hours a week in 1999. Eleven million of those said they worked more than 59 hours a week.
Sweat Under the White Collar
Who are these people? Fraser, after four years of interviews, concludes they are white-collar workers, who do not punch a clock and whose hours therefore are the most difficult to track.
so, yeah … BS??? not so much.
Jm
January 4th, 2013
11:29 am
Paul
I am not Fox News
As much as you may wish it were so
Paulo 977
January 4th, 2013
11:29 am
teacher
January 4th, 2013
9:14 am
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner’s plans to leave near the end of January ~ cnbc
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What of Arne Duncan who has no clue about what EDUCATING our children should be?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 4th, 2013
11:30 am
Jm — “JHM “free money” shouldn’t be easy to get”
One, it’s not “free.” Our FICA contributions support it.
Two, I don’t have an issue with it being difficult to get. Part of my point is that conservative complaints about disability being easy to get are, in my personal experience, total bulldada.
Jm
January 4th, 2013
11:31 am
Duncan is one of the few good things Obama did
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 4th, 2013
11:31 am
Erwin – “USinUK – you mentioned unemployment and now deflect to GDP”
you might want to read the entire post – I mentioned BOTH GDP and jobs numbers, dearest.
and the unemployment number isn’t a good measure as it’s affected by the number of people who are actually LOOKING for work or not.
John Konop
January 4th, 2013
11:31 am
Uncle samatha,
……. i love how liberals BELIEVE that spending has no CAUSE in debt…………….. its all not enough taxes………..
You keep avoiding the spending issue yourself. As I showed the spending blow up is a combination of military spending growing at 2 times GDP as a % since the last balance budget. And healthcare cost growing at to 2 to 3 times the faster than GDP. Would you support cutting military spending back to below 4% of GDP and allowing seniors and government workers to buy drugs at the VA which would save tax payers 60% of the cost of drugs? If not why?
Old timer
January 4th, 2013
11:32 am
Since the unemployment rate stayed the same…..o guess about thqt many jobs were also lost….
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 4th, 2013
11:34 am
Old time – “o guess about thqt many jobs were also lost….”
um. there was a net gain of 155K jobs.
oy.
Paul
January 4th, 2013
11:35 am
Jm 11:28
On that we can agree.
your 11:29
You’re making the same argument. Regardless of whether you heard it there or not, those points are raised then they get repeated thru various conservative sites with no critical analysis and they invariably end up here. So, you could do us all a favor and address the inconsistencies in the two positions.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 4th, 2013
11:36 am
To perverse the constitution liberals have used tragedies and appealed to the sympathy of the public to pass laws that fit their agendas which normally restricts or takes away constitutional rights of law abiding citizens
Michael Schiavo says, “What?”
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 4th, 2013
11:37 am
Kam – 11:36 –
Regnad Kcin
January 4th, 2013
11:38 am
“No it does not and what problems do her constituents have to need this bill except to feel good about themselves. They would never be safer’
willieb – thank you for your thoughtful response.
Some of her constituents may disagree with you, as is their perogative, and believe this bill WILL make them safer.
I am still curious how one can look at a bill and tell it is a “sympathy bill.” What distinguishes a “sympathy bill” from any other bill?
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 4th, 2013
11:38 am
“Is it moral to continue handing out lucrative tax cuts even in time of war, thus creating huge deficits that our children and grandchildren will have to pay on our behalf?”
– Jay Bookman, feb 21, 2005
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Thank you Mr Shockley…………………for the laughes.
I still haven’t stopped.
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I used to think that I’ve had some pretty tough jobs but to be……………………………………..an oblama apologist………………..surely beats all.
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lol
Joe Hussein Mama
January 4th, 2013
11:38 am
Old timer — “Since the unemployment rate stayed the same…..o guess about thqt many jobs were also lost….”
Not really.
The population growth rate is more-or-less a constant. Generally speaking, economists figure that we need around 150,000 jobs per month (or about 1.8 million jobs per year) just to cover the *natural* population growth in the size of the workforce. That means that we’re *adding* 150,000 workers per month — on average — even after accounting for retirements, deaths, etc (e.g. anything that takes someone out of the workforce permanently).
Anything *over* 150,000 a month reduces *long-term* unemployment, because it covers both the number of new workers plus some folks who are out of work but looking for jobs.
Hope that helps.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
January 4th, 2013
11:40 am
KONOP
the last time we had a balanced budget
THESE WERE THE REAL FACTS
we were in an INTERNET BUBBLE
we had huge economic GROWTH
this INCREASED REVENUES tremendously
AND
WE WERE TAKING SURPLUS REVENUE OUT OF SS AND MEDICARE AND APPLYING IT TO GENEREAL REVENUE
you can run and hide
but spending on all areas of the government have INCREASED by BOTH PARTIES
we have to increase REVENUES from ECONOMIC GROWTH while CUTTING SPENDING
the best way to do that is TAX REFORM
and that dont mean tax cuts or tax hikes
IT MEANS READJUSTING THE WAY GOVT OPERATES
do you ever wonder why an UNHEALTHY HAPPY MEAL cost less to eat than BROCOLLI which is healthy?
because the TAX CODE is set up to help McDonalds and the boys churn out fat kids while the brocolli growers eat dirt
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 4th, 2013
11:41 am
i love how liberals BELIEVE that spending has no CAUSE in debt…………….. its all not enough taxes………..
I love how conservatives BELIEVE that lower taxes has no cause in debt……………..its all too much spending.
Ronald Reagan started us on this disastrous path with massive tax cuts and increased spending.
W did him one better by cutting taxes again and starting an unjustified war he had no idea how to pay for or get out of.
Frankly Obama has been pretty tame by comparison.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 4th, 2013
11:44 am
Huge cuts in Military spending are where we should start.
We cant afford to be the worlds policeman anymore.
50,000 troops in Germany …Why ?
Could save a lot of money right there.
When your military is spending as much as the next 10 countries combined.
You’ve got a real problem.
Liberal Nightmare
January 4th, 2013
11:45 am
Ah the new year and the same crap from the wanna-be psuedo journalist called Bookman with his “bookies” posting constant left wing BS whilst sitting at work stealing from their employers. Then there is the chic in the UK (supposedly) who obviously finds existence in the UK so boring she has nothin to do but post on Bookman. Here’s your 47 percenters folks + (1 coo coo from abroad).
Cookman – are you so vain you cant stand to update your profile pic with something recent, not circa 1990? Isn’t this your suggardaddyforyoudotcom profile pic as well?
Peadawg
January 4th, 2013
11:47 am
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
January 4th, 2013
11:44 am
Amen!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 4th, 2013
11:48 am
USinUK
I love how our friends on the right like to pretend that they are the cool, collected heads of reason yet ignore that their top wedgie issues (abortions, and icky ghey sex) are purely emotion driven issues.
Erwin's cat
January 4th, 2013
11:48 am
USinUK – “And who doesn’t believe all this excess cash will eventually result in inflation? ”
which is another reason why reasonable job growth such as what we have now is a good thing – it’s not overheating the market, causing hyperinflation.
where again did you mention GDP?….dearest
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 4th, 2013
11:50 am
Kam – meh – as if their godliness isn’t all about emotion …
JohnnyReb
January 4th, 2013
11:52 am
MY DOG
My dog sleeps about 20 hours a day. He has his food prepared for him. He can eat whenever he wants. His meals are provided at no cost to him.
He visits the Doctor once a year for his checkup and again during the year if any medical needs arise. For this he pays nothing and nothing is required of him.
He lives in a nice neighborhood in a house that is much larger than he needs but he is not required to do any upkeep. He makes no contribution to the running or maintenance of the house.
If he makes a mess, someone else cleans it up.
He has his choice of luxurious places to sleep. He receives these accommodations absolutely free.
He is living like a King and has absolutely no expenses whatsoever.
All of his costs are picked up by others who go out, work hard and earn a living every day.
I was just thinking about all this and suddenly it hit me like a brick in the head.
My dog is a DEMOCRAT.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
January 4th, 2013
11:52 am
“While our national debt constitutes a long-term challenge, it is not causing or exacerbating our current economic situation.”
Bookman, statements like that may get you drummed out of Obama’s Change Force. Briefly acknowledging – even with the requisite equivocation – that we are certainly sailing into a s–t storm of major proportions national-debt wise is courageous on your part.
Kind of inconsistent though if you don’t mind my saying. But encouraging nonetheless.
I’m not getting my hopes up however. No doubt, your next blog will focus your considerable talents on obsessing over every caper of the old fuddy-duddies in the GOP and those wacky, extremists of the Tea Party – all to the delight of many of your readers.
These are great times to be a short-sighted liberal.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 4th, 2013
11:52 am
JM
Have you decided to apologize for your callous remarks yesterday re: John Lewis not being in DC for the vote?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 4th, 2013
11:53 am
do you ever wonder why an UNHEALTHY HAPPY MEAL cost less to eat than BROCOLLI which is healthy?
NO
THIS HAS BEEN ANOTHER EPISODE OF ONE-WORD ANSWERS TO A SIMPLETON(’S) QUESTION
redneckbluedog
January 4th, 2013
11:53 am
Who, besides a terrorist like Al queda, or some kind of economic masochist, would want to default the U.S. on their credit obligations…!?!?
Lord Help Us
January 4th, 2013
11:54 am
‘My dog is a DEMOCRAT’
And…yet, you love him…
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 4th, 2013
11:54 am
JR
My dog is a DEMOCRAT
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Or Romney
jj
January 4th, 2013
11:55 am
155,000 jobs really is flat when you realize that every month an number equal to or greater than that come into the workforce.
And for all those who missed the little line dropped in by the MSM. Unemployment went up to 7.8% but they are reporting no change as the November number was “updated” to 7.8%. Somehow the revision virtually never made the news.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 4th, 2013
11:55 am
Erwin – ohfercryingoutloud … is your scrolly finger broken?
you said “flat is the new up”
to which I responded:
Erwin – 2% isn’t flat GDP – 0% is.
155K new jobs per month isn’t flat – no new jobs is.
so, like I said – both GDP AND job growth.
dearest.
Jm
January 4th, 2013
11:56 am
Paul
If I can divine the republican position it is no new taxes and the deficit additions are bunk from their view
My view: one can look at it both ways and still be right, because I look at the deficit and say: we’re all in this together, no class warfare
Meaning taxes go up on everyone or no one, and if taxes are reduced from current law, they add to the deficit
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 4th, 2013
11:56 am
My dog is a DEMOCRAT.
NOT INTENDED TO BE A FACTUAL STATEMENT.
DownInAlbany
January 4th, 2013
11:58 am
After a couple of days away, I’m glad to see that nothing has changed and that all is well in liberal la-la land. Cheers!
Erwin's cat
January 4th, 2013
12:00 pm
So USinUK
I responded to your post on unemployment…then you started having a different conversation about GDP…so if 1 job is created in a month it’s job “growth”, despite another new 149,999 folks per month not being able to find a job?
you argue semantics while I argue metrics
JohnnyReb
January 4th, 2013
12:01 pm
Yea, we have to love Democrats or otherwise there would be a bounty on them. That’s why they want to take our guns – fear of losing love.
I am constantly reminded of Reagan stating our Liberal friends know so much that is not true.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 4th, 2013
12:02 pm
J. Reb — “I am constantly reminded of Reagan stating our Liberal friends know so much that is not true.”
When, exactly, did he start showing symptoms of Alzheimers?
stands for decibels
January 4th, 2013
12:02 pm
I’m glad to see that nothing has changed and that all is well in liberal la-la land
Who here has said that “all is well”?
Some job growth is good. It’s not what it should be, but it is good. It is not nearly enough. Or, as my favorite “recovering economist” put it this morning, “Slightly better than floating sideways, but barely. “
stands for decibels
January 4th, 2013
12:05 pm
ah-ha!
I just found out from Bill O’Reilly why Japan has such a low unemployment rate. Now it all makes sense.
Regnad Kcin
January 4th, 2013
12:05 pm
“My dog is a DEMOCRAT.”
Of course. Dogs are sensible creatures, with many good qualities.
josef
January 4th, 2013
12:06 pm
JohnnyReb
Yeah, but when it comes to the defense of his domain, he’s a vicious l’il b*gger ready, willing and able to take on yours and his enemy 20 times his size and armed to the teeth…oh, yeah, and he keeps your feet warm at night…and we call him man’s best friend…
NA
January 4th, 2013
12:06 pm
it seems Jay took the same economics classes as Obama or just decided to ignore things in general.
I get disgusted that Jay can find any situation and interpret it into a bunch of hogwash leaning so far left he must be lying on the ground.
Braves win————– Jay interprets— it is a right wing conspiracy.
The sun will be out brightly all day———- Jay interprets it’s the republicans fault they are trying to burn the public.
There will be a tax cut allowing people to have more of their own money—– Jay interprets———– republicans in congress are theives allowing people to have some of the money they earned for theirselves. Congress needs that money to throw down the drain.
Corporate income taxes are lowered——– 200 companies moving to the USA as they can now be competitive———— Jay interprets—— damn people will be able to find jobs and that means less people reading my column.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 4th, 2013
12:07 pm
Erwin – “I responded to your post on unemployment…then you started having a different conversation about GDP”
OFFS … I make one comment and that’s “having a different conversation”???
sweet jeebus. get a grip.
and, yes, everyday that we are in the positive on the jobs front is better than where we were 4 years ago, when we were hemmoraghing 850K jobs/month.
Erwin's cat
January 4th, 2013
12:07 pm
Of course. Dogs are sensible creatures, with many good qualities.
except when they are licking their ass
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 4th, 2013
12:08 pm
Oh NOOOOOO… JohnnyReb has registered his dog to vote as a corporation.
josef
January 4th, 2013
12:09 pm
ERWIN’S
Says the cat!
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 4th, 2013
12:09 pm
EC
yep there is that
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 4th, 2013
12:10 pm
except when they are licking their ass
So do cats.
barking frog
January 4th, 2013
12:10 pm
Good News ! Jobs are the only important thing in this Deficit/Debt BS.
Now I would like to hear of a major Electronics/Information Technology
training/retraining program nationwide and a $100,000.00 capped SBA
backed bank lending program for entrepreneurs.
Regnad Kcin
January 4th, 2013
12:13 pm
“except when they are licking their ass”
…and that comment from a CAT! LOL!
Erwin's cat
January 4th, 2013
12:13 pm
when we were hemmoraghing 850K jobs/month.
so now you want to include the additional 150k/month?…OFFS make up your mind!
and yes you tried to change the conversation away from jobs to GDP
again, you argue semantics while I argue metrics…
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 4th, 2013
12:13 pm
Frog
Now I would like to hear of a major Electronics/Information Technology
training/retraining program nationwide
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No US citizens need apply, foreign students welcome as they will work for what the corporations are willing to pay for IT workers currently
Joe Hussein Mama
January 4th, 2013
12:14 pm
K. Chak — “So do cats.”
A cat will lick a dog’s ass? Ewwwwww.
barking frog
January 4th, 2013
12:14 pm
Erwin’s cat 12:07
wow! talk about a pot/kettle example…….
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 4th, 2013
12:14 pm
“Of course. Dogs are sensible creatures, with many good qualities.
except when they are licking their ass”
or eating fox poop. bleurgh!
Erwin's cat
January 4th, 2013
12:15 pm
So do cats
who ever claimed cats were sensible?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 4th, 2013
12:17 pm
Does the BLS keep statistics on the employment rate of THE SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! ?
barking frog
January 4th, 2013
12:18 pm
Common Sense
No US citizens need apply, foreign students welcome as they will work for what the corporations are willing to pay for IT workers currently
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Thus the loan programs to give the big boys some competition after all they
were ‘garage based’ for the most part.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 4th, 2013
12:18 pm
“and yes you tried to change the conversation away from jobs to GDP”
hahahahaha … yeah, 1 comment in addition to the jobs statistic is really beating that horse into the conversation.
“so now you want to include the additional 150k/month?…OFFS make up your mind!”
I’ve never left the addition of 150K/month, dearest.
if you doubt me, then scroll.
GT
January 4th, 2013
12:19 pm
The politicians on the right are like a wartime prisoners blindfolded, in front of a hostile camera reading whatever his host asks him to read. Romney was the world’s worse being paraded around Israel like a trophy pleasing the rich uncle by reciting poetry in front of the uncle’s friends. The whole election people were making excuses for Mitt, he has to sound that dumb or he won’t get the support of the right. Now John Boehner pulls the same act to make his wing nuts happy. The poor people’s interest in his district in Ohio was long ago subordinated to the special interest of the few who hold the strings of the right wing power structure. I watched Newt do it here and he had to move around like a gypsy from district to district as his stick got old, but he kept raking in the money for the party and himself no matter how off key he got. This is how the right serve their country.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 4th, 2013
12:19 pm
E. Cat — “who ever claimed cats were sensible?”
I like dogs *and* cats, but I *prefer* cats. Cats require much less effort and management.
IMO, scooping a litter box is infinitely preferable to holding a leash outside at 3 AM during a pouring thunderstorm, waiting for King or Queenie to find the *perfect* spot to tinkle.
Stephenson Billings
January 4th, 2013
12:19 pm
Alas, the “new normal” or, remember when we were statistically fully employed?
CHART OF THE DAY: THE SCARIEST JOBS CHART EVER
http://www.businessinsider.com/pct-job-losses-in-post-wwii-recessions-2013-1#ixzz2H1UeEcJN
josef
January 4th, 2013
12:21 pm
GT
“…to move around like a gypsy from district to districr…”
That’s a racist comment, Cynthia, lower case g or no…
Joe Hussein Mama
January 4th, 2013
12:22 pm
ohgreat
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/sen-cornyn-it-may-be-necessary-to-partially?ref=fpa
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 4th, 2013
12:22 pm
USinUK
I wanna try your apple and sausage stuffing recipe, but I need to make it for one.
Can I effectively cut it in half and still maintain the integrity of the original?
josef
January 4th, 2013
12:23 pm
JHM
I’m with you on cats and dogs…
Nunna Yobinnes
January 4th, 2013
12:23 pm
Just think, if GW Bush had been elected in 1992, and Clinton had been elected in 2000, Bush would be everyone’s darling, and Clinton would be the object of scorn. Timing is everything.
Of course, Clinton would be blaming Bush for the downturn after 2000. Oh well.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 4th, 2013
12:24 pm
SCARIEST JOBS CHART EVER…
11.5% For 18-29 Group…
drudgey spam.