Why the future looks so bleak for the GOP

Demo-Lite = RINO

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They made the mess. They can clean it up. It’s their problem, not mine.

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I think Forrest Gump said it best, “Stupid is as stupid does”!

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“Why the future looks so bleak for the GOP” ???

Because the liberal inmates now control the asylum.

Thus ………….. the future looks even more bleak for our nation.

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On each of those high-profile issues, the Republican Party finds itself trapped defending a strongly held but distinctly minority point of view.

But concealed behind this indisputable fact is another fact, ignored by the political press: that the core of these views — a continued attack on the social programs of the 20th C and an expansion of a political economy with strong and growing oligarchic character guarded by a growing and unregulated police state — is broadly shared by BOTH parties.

The true disease of Washington is not the madness and extremism of the Republican party per se — real though it is — but the fact that there is no opposition to it, for the Democratic party has merely installed itself in the vacuum at the center right of the spectrum left by the wild shift right by the GOP.

THAT is the true source of the political crisis of our day.

A truly functioning journalism would train its eye on that fact and not simply continue to paint the GOP as being the only source of our troubles.

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And remember what Goldwater said. Extremism in pursuit of virtue is no vice.

I bet Redneck has a nice needlepoint of that saying on his trailer wall, right next to velvet Jesus.

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“…as of mid-December some 53 percent of Americans perceived the Republican Party as too extremist…”

Who would have ever thought that in America advocating individual liberty, fiscal responsibility, and free market capitalism would be considered “too extremist?”

It’s over.

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Yea, it’s really extremist to want to reduce the deficit! They may never make a comeback since it appears we may have reached the tipping point of most of the people are getting stuff and don’t want to give anything up so they vote for whoever promises them the most! The president don’t care about the deficit, it’s all about spending and anyone that wants to stop that is painted by the libs like Jay as extremists! The country cannot survive the spending as we have it and it appears the libs don’t give a —————

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The current crop of Republican reps in the US House are turds !

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I am offended that Mr. Right is calling the Dems and Obama extremist for wanting to reduce the debt and deficits.

Seriously, there is no disagreement on the desire to reduce both, the disagreement in on the methods. Perhaps your failure to understand the real issue is part of your lack of comprehension

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“Thanks to gerrymandering, a political evil in which both parties indulge”

Make no mistake. The Democrats wouldn’t really want full control of all branches for very long were the opportunity open to them (look at how awkwardly they maneuvered in 2009). They benefit mightily by having the “crazies” in the GOP forming their rightward flank. It’s a very comfortable position for them, as that way they can merely propose right-leaning and pro-corporate, pro-security state policies, but just a little more quietly and carefully calibrated, i.e. minus the attacks on social groups (esp women) that emanate from fundamentalist quarters of the GOP and make them look like a band of preacher yokels.

They can push right wing policies yet still not take a hit for it, with plenty of cover from the majority of their “liberal” base.

It’s what you might call: win-win.

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It’s kind of funny how if 53% of Americans think something that makes it gospel but when Obamacare was ramed down our throats it didn’t matter what they thought!

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I disagree with the CW here…

Republicans from Tea Party to leadership have shown a remarkable elasticity.

For instance, during the W debacle, there was hardly a peep about deficits. The party went Mooslim crazy, but was oddly quiet on the flip from surplus to deficits.

They went crazy about morals during the Clenis administration, but were oddly silent when their own were unable to keep the trouser trout contained…

Their fealty to budget, spending cuts and taxes is yet another temporary fad that will change if the GOP returns to power.

In summary, they are unprincipled in every way…

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F. Sinkwich: “Who would have ever thought that in America advocating individual liberty, fiscal responsibility, and free market capitalism would be considered “too extremist?””

Yep, that’s the Dem party alright. Why are you always aligning yourself with the Democratic party?

You and Bookman. I swear.

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“Yea, it’s really extremist to want to reduce the deficit!”

The way Republicans want to reduce the debt is extremist. Republicans want to pay for their massive tax cuts, Medicare Part D, Dept of Homeland Security and the daddy of them all, the 2 expensive unfunded wars by cutting Medicare and Social Security.

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Jeezz….I think I read these same con responses on yesterday’s blog…new material needed.

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Seriously, there is no disagreement on the desire to reduce both, the disagreement in on the methods. Perhaps your failure to understand the real issue is part of your lack of comprehension

Yea, I’m not the smartest guy around so please enlighten me on the REAL issue!

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this is way too funny on so many levels
liberalism at work

http://news.yahoo.com/child-support-claim-rankles-sperm-donor-lesbian-couple-014725388.html

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What happened to JOBS?

Ha! The President is laser focused on that!

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Yahoo Uncle Sam??? Really??? You need to stop depending on all those liberal companies.

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And…the cookie commentary returns…..sad

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Vinny: You are so classy! Your momma must be proud….that is…if you have a momma!

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IMAM

“OK, Erwin: What should the federal government do to create jobs?”

A New Deal?

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Jay – 11:03

Don’t you listen to the cons here?

It’s OBAMA’S duty to create jobs!!!

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Jay
Thanks to gerrymandering, a political evil in which both parties indulge, three of the eight are in such strong GOP districts that no Democrat even bothered to run against them last November
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This is the problem. No Republican should stand for office unopposed, and vice versa.
This is why we have National, State and local party organizations. Abandoning the
the battlefield may save the parties a little money but it costs the country in the long run.

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We care about 16T debt….and I say even more than you RB.

We just don’t think the poorest amongst us who got a few food stamps should pay for the excesses
and errors made by those who caused the finanical meltdown and were given bonuses for it!

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$16,000,000,000,000.00 debt, the new deal adds $4,000,000,000,000.00 which makes it $20,000,000,000,000.00 and the Republicans that want to stop this madnes are extremist!

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Gun Issue – Covered by the Second Amendment. If you don’t like it, amend it or repeal it.

Path to Immigration – It’s called the naturaliztion process and has served this country well for 200 years. If you want to be a citizen, get your butt in line like everyone else has and go through the process. Why do dimocrats want to abandon that process?? Oh yeah….they need lots of voters…and soon.

Medicare/other entitlements – They are all in the red and can’t pay the promised benefits in the future. These programs have unfunded liabilities of over 100 trillion dollars. It is estimated that by 2054 the payroll tax would have to be increased to 37% to pay for this. So why wouldn’t we want to fix this now?

If the AJC were bleeding money and losing subscribers wouldn’t they make changes?

Now, who are the extremists again??

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‘and the Republicans that want to stop this madnes are extremist!

Mr Right…how much would the Ryan plan (as passed by the House) reduce the deficit over the next ten years?

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The Republicans are in trouble for 1 reason…

People like RB, parrot, Vinny, the corporal and Frank?

Just kidding! You guys are my new heroes. Seriously.

After this past electoral humiliation of yours, I have finally realized that, along with your mentors on Fox and EIB, you are the greatest allies possible in the anti-GOP movement in this country.

Thank you for your support and keep up the good work!

OK, duty calls and I’m off to partake of some of this Obama recovery (LOL!)

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Democrats don’t really have to do anything to defeat Republicans. Republicans are defeating their own prospects of winning national elections by behaving in such bizarre, self-emolating ways, threatening our economy and recovery like economic terrorists. If outside terrorists threatened our economy like this, we’d be in another war. Instead it’s lamebrained Republicans doing this to us. If they take us into default by not raising the debt ceiling and we get downgraded again, that’ll be the final bomb they’ll set off. Even the elderly, pro-Republican, medicare and social security recipients and corporate business/wall street supporters of the GOP will get blown up in that explosion. That’ll be the end of them. Obama and the Dems should let them walk their own plank into shark-infested waters. No one will support their election campaigns anymore, including Republicans from New York and New Jersey.

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rightwingextreme
Medicare/other entitlements – They are all in the red and can’t pay the promised benefits in the future. These programs have unfunded liabilities of over 100 trillion dollars. It is estimated that by 2054 the payroll tax would have to be increased to 37% to pay for this. So why wouldn’t we want to fix this now?
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I have it on good faith that Jesus will return before then so it won’t matter.

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It’s over……the haters of self proclaimed morals have won….all there is left to do is watch the decline of freedom and the rise of government power.

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Gun Issue – Covered by the Second Amendment.

The 2nd amendment has never been the issue. It’s the NRA that wants you to think that. The issue is high capacity magazines and rapid firing rifles.

If you need that kind of firepower to kill a deer you should give up hunting altogether.

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JAY

Can’t you think of a meaningful topic that doesn’t include the obvious?

The GOP is in disarray period. Your party offers no solutions beyond throwing 6% or so increased taxes which have already been spent. What can your party do differently to get us out of the hole besides idealogical gimmicks? Perhaps the courage to do what’s right with spending and the like? No the LIB ideaology won’t permit that.. Perhaps setting a debt level at $25 trillion or something to that fashion?

How much of a debt is acceptable to you? $30 trillion or more? Just curious..

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“It’s kind of funny how if 53% of Americans think something that makes it gospel but when Obamacare was ramed down our throats it didn’t matter what they thought!”

Was that before or after the smearing propaganda machine led by Fox and dark money had scared the bejeebus out of everyone over “death panels”. Seems I recall Americans being in favor of reform before that.

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“the haters of self proclaimed morals have won ”

what exactly does that even mean???

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Time now to close the deductions-loopholes. Mortgage interst deduction should be the first to go.

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It’s time for all Americans (Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians) to stop fighting with each other and throw all the bums (U.S. Senators and Congressmen) out of office. They are nothing but corrupt charlatans who serve as paid representatives of special interests.

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Welcome to the Occupation

January 3rd, 2013
11:13 am

IMO, aside from government jobs (as inefficient as they are) the government can do very little to create private sector jobs that stand up to meaningful measures. The means first you have to be honest about unemployment. Second, to count saved jobs is a crock….no evidence excepting BS formulas bias by economists turned pundits…

If they really wanted to create jobs, we could become a fully isolationist country and keep techology develops under lock and key..

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“Perhaps the courage to do what’s right with spending and the like?”

Like breaking the contract people have worked under and paid into their whole lives with the expectation that they might not be kicked to the ditch when they couldn’t work any more?

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“What happened to JOBS?

As I recall, the Republicans campaigned on that very issue back in 2010. ”

then, they got interested in my uterus and all its goings-on …

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F. Sinkwich

January 3rd, 2013
11:15 am

Now you stop that nonesense right this minute. Are you suggesting that the stimulus didn’t create 3 million jobs? Are you suggesting that ObamaCare (I prefer PelosiCare) is going to cost us any more than what was originally projected (we were gonna make money I recall)? Are you suggesting the Dodd Frank, by keeping the too-big-to-fail institutions isn’t a great improvement?

Good god man!

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Lets rephrase…”Why the future looks so bleak for the USA”.

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How many ways can you say that the GOP sucks and DEMS are our savior? I would submit that for every 100 posts, 90 are concerned about making the most of the dysfunction of idiot GOP’s or praising President Trillions every move..

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USinUK
then, they got interested in my uterus and all its goings-on
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and they really get hot about it…….

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Question any spending?……….never!

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barking – I’d say that they got all up in my grill … but, the mental image would be a bit much …

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@Towncrier I think by definition abortion cannot be used as contraception because the fetus has already been conceived. But, do go on.

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” I would submit that for every 100 posts, 90 are concerned about making the most of the dysfunction of idiot GOP’s or praising President Trillions every move..”

If you’re worried about saving face, change behavior.

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DannyX

January 3rd, 2013
11:23 am

What right do the evangelicals have to control womens rights in this country? Over the past several decades, those attending church has plummeted in similar fashion to union membership…People can believe in a higher power and still support a woman’s right to choose..

I’d support a ban on abortion if those so righteously opposed promise to provide safe, family environment to each and every one of the 2 million or so procedures annually.

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“That brings us to the ultimate question: How can the Republican Party shed its reputation as extremist on the national stage when most of those who create that reputation — the members of the House GOP caucus — have every incentive as individuals to continue on their present course?”

The GOP must use a progressive liberal tactic to shed the reputation the lame stream media has fed about conservatives to the morons living on the east coast, west coast, and up north. They must attack with extreme prejudice and viciousness that the radical left has use for decades. They must select one by one the journalists, anchors, news outlets, bloggers, twitters and all the lame stream medias and attack them personally, professionally, constantly and without mercy. Check out their families, friends, social groups, religious or non religious places and catch them in a moment of unawares and expose to the world with distortions and call it facts. Take no quarter and give no quarter! Be on the constant attack and never see any good at any thing the liberals do. Attack and assign names to them that will horrify those who only vote and pay no attention to the world around them. Attack as is a ravenous wolf was about to eat your child. Attack and attack the all. Put in print, put in the airways and put it on videos.

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Jay,

You are very funny in getting your progressive readers an amen article But your numbers are forgetting some important facts that does not go along with your narrative.

According to the progressive guru Nate Silver. There is a very slim chance of the Republicans not being in control of the House of Reps for the next 10 years.

Republicans have total control of both chambers and the governorships in 24 States. Dems have total control in 13 states. The rest of the states are split.

Republicans have 30 governors.

Dems do not historically turn out in mid term elections and there has been historic Presidential fatigue in the 6th year of a President. In the 2014 midterms there will be 7 Democratic Senators will be up for re election in states won by Romney and 0 Republican Senators will be up for re election in states won by Obama.

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“The second amendment was passed for one reason, tomake sure the state militas had rifles to use in needed. No hunting, no collectors, nothing but arms for the milita.”

Someone process an arrest warrant for Daniel Boone ASAP. How dare he use his rifle for hunting and self-defense. He should be buried under the jail.

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“But, do go on.”

Or, “Proceed Governor!”

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The Republican jobs program is to give tax breaks to millionaires, so they can invest off shore.

Those Cayman Islanders appreciate it, too.

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Mortgage interst deduction should be the first to go.

How much is your rent?

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“The Republicans are in trouble for 1 reason… they will not start fighting the media battle with emotional pleas vs. intellectial ones”

SAHRIA-CREEP!!! DEATH PANELS!!! MARXIST!!! SOCIALIST!!! GREECE!!!!

For God’s sake…BENGHAZI!!!

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Aw c’mon Jay -Old Joe released the cons from the chains they were throwing around themselves before they jumped off the Cliff. Now no less than Grover, Boner and Lyin Ryan said the cons voted for the Obama/Biden tax cuts to save the middle class. Presto- the cons are now heroes.

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towncrier
The only thing is: they can’t see their (Hannity-esque) reflection in the mirror.
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Do you have a reflection in a mirror?

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How much is enough?…..ours kids are in debt……..grandchildren in debt…….and for who exactly? and Why? It’s broken……the treasury is empty!

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‘…….and for who exactly?’

The rich, the elderly, the corporations, the MIC, to name a few…

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Oops. I forgot about all the jobs Republicans planned on creating to monitor our bedroom activities and women’s uteruses. Whatever came of those jobs bills anyway.

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Joe Hussein Mama

January 3rd, 2013
11:29 am

Transvaginal probe..classic. Hope you don’t mind if I use that one..

It would seem to me that evangelicals on their arrogant high horse would be praying hourly…that seems to be held as the most effective solution to all the ills of life…guess in this instance it ain’t enough..

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It’s not just the financial optics that make the GOP look bad….it’s also the DEMOGRAPHIC optics!! Until the GOP begins to realize the changing demographics and run on policies that can ATTRACT said changing demographic….then the GOP will remain in its position of irrelevancy!!

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Aquagirl, “RB is losing his cookies again. Poor fella.”

You do realize you’re the fat kid being pacified by the cookie don’t you? You’re all giddy with this “we won” garbage and the truth is the bill that just passed is a farce. But you enjoy your cookie, Aquagirl. Obama promises it won’t make you fatter.

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Finn McCool (The System isn’t Broken; It’s Fixed)

January 3rd, 2013
11:15 am
Gun Issue – Covered by the Second Amendment.

The 2nd amendment has never been the issue. It’s the NRA that wants you to think that. The issue is high capacity magazines and rapid firing rifles.

If you need that kind of firepower to kill a deer you should give up hunting altogether.

The Second Amendment isn’t about hunting. It’s designed to keep a government in check by the People.

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Jay:

Let’s go through the issues:

Immigration Reform – count me as one of the 65% who is fine with offering an “avenue” (extra emphasis on avenue) for becoming a legal resident. I oppose offering pure amnesty or simply ignoring the issue which is what the President did with his Executive Order on not deporting illegal aliens. How about an application process with references from current citizens and local municipalities? This would weed out illegals that have committed violent crimes, etc. Then, have formal work visas issued with regular checks from immigration for a specified amount of time. If everything checks out, grant them citizenship. Additionally, the immigrant would need to complete the steps that all naturalized citizens have to complete.

Debt Ceiling: You know as well as I do that not raising the debt ceiling will not “cause the country to default on it’s debt.” It simply means that the country will have to cut spending (gasp!) in other areas to pay down our debt to a point where we can borrow again. You have a credit card, right? You understand that once you hit your limit, you are not allowed to borrow any more money until you pay down the principle, right? It does not mean that you cannot pay your bills, it merely means that you need to pay down your credit card before using it again. America might have to scale back to “basic cable” in order to help pay down its debts. This will not be a bad thing.

Gun Control: 58% of Americans want more stringent gun controls because that is what they keep hearing. More controls, less horrific events like what happened at Sandy Hook, right? Explain to me how that will happen? Make “assault weapons” illegal? Drugs are illegal. It is a felony to possess some of them. Does that stop criminals from manufacturing, distributing, and using them? Does it stop them from getting into the hands of our children? No. Granted you don’t fight drugs with more drugs–you put in place treatment programs and educational programs. Similar things can happen with gun safety, but it will never keep ourselves or our children 100% safe from gun crimes. To think there will ever be an instance where that is the case is extremely naive, but that is what we keep hearing as the only solution. If felt the NRA’s proposal for armed security at schools is a good idea. We have armed security at banks, sporting events, airports, etc., so why not at schools that house our most precious resource? The guy has been vilified by the left for even mentioning this. Also, can you define “assault weapon?”

I agree that unless the GOP changes course, it will be a long time before we hear from them again. In my opinion, someone in the GOP needs to step up and explain our positions on the issues in real language that the uninformed masses can understand, and someone other than Fox News has to make it a top story.

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Before we complaining about our congress house leaders, the real change needs to happen closer to home… the GA legislature. But not much fires up people to vote their GA state representative out… so they keep making districts that are very strong Rep and Dem.

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‘It’s designed to keep a government in check by the People.’

So, is it working? Is the ‘government in check by the People?’

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future is bleak except in south where goatropers abound

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“Can’t pee off the porch in an apartment.”

well, you can, but it’s a limited time offer

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If a person spends a flat $50,000 per year in today’s dollars then over the course of 60 years that person would have an unfunded expense of 3 million dollars. Tack on inflation and multiply that by a few hundred million people and that could add up to a hundred trillion dollars! Wow! You cons need to pay up, up front, or else we just cannot afford to have you around.

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“People can believe in a higher power and still support a woman’s right to choose..”

I agree Stevie. Of course that is not how Christian conservatives see it. Towncrier for example said just the other day that a person who believes in abortion cannot be Christian. To me that arrogance is absurd. DeborahinAthens’ excellent post about all the innocent deaths the US caused in Iraq is case in point, can you be a Christian after supporting that war, as many Christian conservatives did/do?

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Well, the GOP might try leaving women and the reproductive medical care alone; women are perfectly capable of making their own decision without the male GOP’s input.

The GOP might try standing up for ALL Americans, not just those with a 6+ figure income.

The GOP might try paying for all of the wars they thought was a good idea; unnecessary and immoral notwithstanding.

The GOP might try confirming the nominees for the federal judge positions that are vacant.

The GOP might try really cutting unnecessary and wasteful spending like, subsidies for the oil industry, subsidies for the entertainment industry, subsidies for the car and racing industry, subsidies for the chamber of commerce. Then they could consider cutting subsidies for the dairy, wheat, rice, soy, corn, beef, pork, chicken, barley and hops farmers.

There are lots of things the GOP can do to appear to more Americans, but alas, I doubt they just cannot find the courage to do so.

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All politicians lie…..agree? If not which ones don’t……..anyone?

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“Explain to me how that will happen? Make “assault weapons” illegal? Drugs are illegal. It is a felony to possess some of them. Does that stop criminals from manufacturing, distributing, and using them? Does it stop them from getting into the hands of our children? No. Granted you don’t fight drugs with more drugs–you put in place treatment programs and educational programs. Similar things can happen with gun safety, but it will never keep ourselves or our children 100% safe from gun crimes. To think there will ever be an instance where that is the case is extremely naive, but that is what we keep hearing as the only solution.”

I am not sure people who are pushing for a lot of gun control are so much interested in a “solution” as in pushing their agenda (the not-well-though-out belief that more guns equals more violence, which many studies do not validate). The principal “solution” (which at best is really no more than a dramatic reduction in gun crime), I think, lies elsewhere. And if we are serious about finding that solution, we will find it.

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“How can the Republican Party shed its reputation as extremist on the national stage when most of those who create that reputation — the members of the House GOP caucus — have every incentive as individuals to continue on their present course?

About the only thing that comes to mind is for the Republican House leadership to make the caucus pay a price for their intransigence. They’re separated from what had been historical reliance (and allegiance) to leadership, such as fundraising. They’ve their own routes for that so they’re not dependent on the leadership. Boehner made some tentative steps in that direction by removing some members from key committee positions. Time to up the ante. Treat them as if they are not members of the Republican Party working for the common good. They want their extreme, marginal agenda – fine. Let them do it on their own. But until they want to play, they’ll have to pay. And the more creative ways leadership can dream up to make life miserable for them, the better.

Of course, in their “I’m oppressed but I’m fighting the righteous fight for a cause bigger than myself” minds it may be just the kind of perverse attention they crave (as we see with some bloggers). That is a risk. But accommodating, attempting to placate and talking haven’t worked. Find out what’s most dear to them, then shut it off or use it against them. As Pres Bush said, they’re either with ‘us’ or against ‘us’ – and so far they’ve been not only against the ‘us’ of the Party, they’ve been against the ‘us’ of the US.

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I guess you glossed over most of the post you are indignantly responding to. It is the SCOTUS that has concluded that.

The SCOTUS wasn’t opining on abortion as a replacement for birth control. If your fevered imagination is plagued by hordes of people shtupping like bunnies, that’s your problem.

They cited birth control because the basis for these decisions goes back to Griswold vs. Connecticut, which was about birth control.

For all your carping about Roe vs. Wade, it’s not really the case that kicked people like you out of other’s bedrooms—much to your chagrin.

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curious — “Where can I get a M1A1 tank?”

http://www.dispositionservices.dla.mil/sales/generalinfo.shtml

Good luck. Hope you don’t want one with a working main gun or ammo.

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indigo

January 3rd, 2013
11:27 am
rightwingextreme – 11:16 “the milita back in the day were the people”

That’s right. They were the farmers, merchants, clerks, etc.

There was no standing professional army.

That was then. This is now.

Today’s milita is our professional Military and the 2nd ammendment guarantees THEM, NOT CIVILIANS, the “right to keep and bear arms”.

Wrong.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The Founding Fathers included this as a means by which the People could have a means to defend themselves against a tyrannical government. They understood that too much power in government could become corrupted and potentially used against the People.

When tyrants come to power one of the first items on their agenda is to disarm the people. Check out world history and you will see this. It happened in Cuba, China, Russia, Nazi Germany and every other tyrannical government the planet has seen.

You don’t have to own a gun. That’s your right under our Constitution. However, I want my right to own one if I choose.

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Stevie:
Most of the Libs I come into contact with want more spending and will fight cuts to entitlements and have no problem about our need to borrow to cover expenses.

Stop fibbing! You don’t know any Libs, and I don’t either, (except the cleaning lady)

Tell me, just how high can our debt get before you and the LIB economists think it will present a problem?

Imo, the official debt and trillions of unfunded liabilities are unpayable. Former Reagan econ advisor, prof Kotikoff, of Boston U, claims we’ve promised over $200 Trillion over 75 yrs. Others think it’s only half that amount. He also claims our annual shortfall is $4-5 Trillion, not that $1 Trillion deficit.

I’m not a GOP by any stretch

Yes you are…all your “info” sounds like it’s straight from that Fountain of Knowledge, Faux Nuze.

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Rocker, The same exact thing could be said about the Libs. The sorry part about your post is that you don’t want to see the truth.

The VIETNAM WAR caused by the Democrats killed more Americans than all the Republican wars combined.

Damn, that was easy.

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To all the left wingers on here, that includes you Jay, thanks for the laughs.

The fact that you actually think the Republican party/conservatives is done, finished, stick a fork in them, is so absurd and borders on stupidity that your wishful thinking is hilarious.

Do you really believe that this country’s problems is due to one party & one party only? If so, then that stupidty is not funny, but sad.

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“Well, the GOP might try leaving women and the reproductive medical care alone; women are perfectly capable of making their own decision without the male GOP’s input.”

Yes, but would that they might do that BEFORE they got in bed with someone and not after. Let’s see how many things in life we get a “take back” with. Drunk driving causing a fatality? Nope. Cheating on your wife and getting caught? Nope. Overdosing on drugs? Nope. Jumping off a cliff? Nope. Getting an STD from a sexual partner? Nope. Eating 3 Big Macs a day for 10 years and having a heart attack? Nope. Having sex with a male without conscientiously using contraceptives and getting pregnant? Yep (all it takes is giving infanticide another name and getting the approval of liberal justices).

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Georgia @ 11:47: “Imagine this country with no GOP to check the spending.”

Imagine if Georgia actually paid attention to who authorized the spending, how much, and on what, in the last three decades instead of regurgitating the most shallow and easily-debunked talking point the RW media pumps forth. Points for working in a show tune though! At least that part was refreshing.

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robert goulet

” You have a credit card, right? You understand that once you hit your limit, you are not allowed to borrow any more money until you pay down the principle, right?”

Household budgets and credit card analogies. Sigh….

IF you have already spent in excess of your credit limit and if those transactions have been processed, you owe more than your limit. You’ve already spent the money – approved it.

Congress had, months ago, approved the funding. They had two choices of how to pay for it: revenue or take on debt. They (including Republicans) knew the revenue wasn’t there so more debt was the route. The only thing sadder than them peddling the line ‘we aren’t going to accumulate more debt by raising the limit’ ‘ (after they’ve approved funding in excess of the limit) is that people actually believe the line.

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the other half of your brain
The VIETNAM WAR caused by the Democrats killed more Americans than all the Republican wars combined
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but the killed were mostly Republicans…….

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TC thinks an abortion is like hitting the reset button on a video game.

And Republicans wonder why they’re the incredible shrinking party.

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Towncrier — “Yes, but would that they might do that BEFORE they got in bed with someone and not after.”

Live your life the way you want and extend others the same courtesy.

If you don’t like the reproductive choices and actions of others, that’s just too bad for you.

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Classless…….BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

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Redcoat, I have no idea who has the ability to unite this Party. Rubio might come close and now Christy is trying to be a voice of reason in a sea of insanity, so he will likely get his knees whacked. And Jay s right, the georgia politicians have no gain to be made in being rational.

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barking frog

January 3rd, 2013
11:59 am

the other half of your brain
The VIETNAM WAR caused by the Democrats killed more Americans than all the Republican wars combined
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but the killed were mostly Republicans…….

” Barking, Thans for admitting that the Republicans were the only soldiers willing to fight for your PATHETIC FREEDOM. ”

It’s ok to be a COWARD, it just pisses me that I was willing to join the service to protect cowards like you.

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he other half of your brain.
January 3rd, 2013
11:54 am

“The VIETNAM WAR caused by the Democrats killed more Americans than all the Republican wars combined.”

Actually, the Vietnam War was CAUSED by Republicans…i.e., Dwight D. Eisenhower. His signing of the SEATO Treaty in 1954 obligated the US to come into French IndoChina in case hostilities broke out…The war started in 1955…but escalated under Democratic Administrations (Kennedy/Johnson)……..

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other half — ” Barking, Thans for admitting that the Republicans were the only soldiers willing to fight for your PATHETIC FREEDOM.”

This Democrat and disabled Army veteran would like to know just WTF you’re talking about here.

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“I agree Stevie. Of course that is not how Christian conservatives see it. Towncrier for example said just the other day that a person who believes in abortion cannot be Christian. To me that arrogance is absurd. DeborahinAthens’ excellent post about all the innocent deaths the US caused in Iraq is case in point, can you be a Christian after supporting that war, as many Christian conservatives did/do?”

We all choose to believe what we will. And I believe we will be accountable for those decisions one day. If you think that the same God that was displeased with Israelites sacrificing their children to Molech in the OT smiles upon abortions, then so be it. Please show me scriptures to back up your position.

BTW, I was not a supporter of the Iraq war. Unless one wants to be conquered and subjugated, war is at some point unavoidable. It may not be one’s decision to make war, but one must decide whether or not to defend himself in war.

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Yeah, LBJ sent more and more troops, but would not allow military leaders to utilize their own strategies to get the war over as quickly as possible. Result – more and more coming home in body bags, until finally we just walked away. What a waste of all those lives.

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“Live your life the way you want and extend others the same courtesy. If you don’t like the reproductive choices and actions of others, that’s just too bad for you.”

I am exercising my First Amendment right to challenge the positions of others. If you don’t like that, then that’s just too bad for you.”

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Jay….you should change the title of your article to why the future looks so bleak for the country. Debt as far as the eye can see and Obama has absolutely no intention of stopping now, he will quadruple down over the next four years. I just do not understand why liberals do not get that, tax all you want but it will do nothing. Perhaps the Kool-Aid Lite drinkers will wake up after the next two years and realize what has happened….we can only hope

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Joe Mama,

I’m confused too. Is frog telling us that all the young men in the 1960s who did not enter a draft-avoidance college program (which was btw much more affordable in those days) and joined the military instead to go fight the war in Viet-nam were Republicans? Or is he trying to tell us that the Republican soldiers died at a higher rate than the Democratic, Independent, or non-political soldiers?

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I remember all the premature prognostications of doom for the Dems back in ‘94. Same shyte, different day. Blah blah blah rightwing extremist. Bah blah blah Republican party done for. Blah blah blah irrelevancy. Guess the 2010 midterms didn’t mean anything right? Same will happen in 2014. ‘12-’14 is strangely familiar to ‘92-’94.

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However I have been known to bash some of the idiots that post here.

Tick…tick…tick….

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“BTW, I was not a supporter of the Iraq war.”

So what Towncrier, that was not my point. Are those Christian conservatives that supported the Iraq war real Christians in your view? You decided that anyone that supports abortion are not Christians. Does that apply to people who supported the killing of innocent Iraqi women and children?

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DannyX

January 3rd, 2013
12:13 pm

I can’t seem to get a plausable explanation as to how our “liberties” are protected by sticking our noses and indiscrimminate killing into these harmless countries? WWII I understand…anything since then makes no sense to me..

Matti

January 3rd, 2013
12:14 pm

Unfortunately, those dying in Vietnam et al were too young to likely have a party preference. I do know that the vast majority in Vietnam were kids who were not priviledged…mostly middle to lower middle income with limited education possiblities…the GOP was different than now and I don’t recall they actually started the war…but its clear those of priviledge, like most our politicians, remained safe at home..

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“Actually, the Vietnam War was CAUSED by Republicans…i.e., Dwight D. Eisenhower. His signing of the SEATO Treaty in 1954 obligated the US to come into French IndoChina in case hostilities broke out”

So any war that breaks out involving a nato country the US CAUSED IT? That is what you are saying.

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Matti.JHM
During my service 1964-1968 there was a draft and a great deal of
the country was not college bound and were ‘Ike’ followers.thus
the draftees were largely Republican oriented though not too
many voted I think. I know that most of my colleagues were
not fans of LBJ. Both dems and repubs finally got the best
of LBJ and he quit. also snark.

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“The SCOTUS wasn’t opining on abortion as a replacement for birth control.”

Fail. In their decision, they acknowledged that it now serves as a form of birth control in America:

“…in some critical respects abortion is of the same character as the decision to use contraception… for two decades of economic and social developments, people have organized intimate relationships and made choices that define their views of themselves and their places in society, in reliance on the availability of abortion in the event that contraception should fail.”

“For all your carping about Roe vs. Wade, it’s not really the case that kicked people like you out of other’s bedrooms—much to your chagrin.”

Sister, you can do whatever you want in your bedroom – God has given you the right to even go shoot up a bunch of school children if you are so inclined. I am speaking on this blog mainly to people who profess a belief in God and the Bible and who nonetheless advocate for abortion. What weight does anything I have said carry with agnostics or atheists?

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Nunna Yobinnes

“Paul – As Jay does not have any interest in the Republican Party becoming more prevalent, why even type in his opinions in the first place? ”

Jay has written, many times, that a healthy, functioning, capable Republican Party advancing ideas and options counter to the Democratic Party is not only desirable, but essential to the working of the American political process.

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John Barrow (D-GA) voted no

Looks like a GA problem, not a republican problem

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rightwingextreme

So, you really think 125 million gun owners are all that stands between you and a tyrannical Govt.

Just curious. If the Govt. overcame all those guns and “took over”, just what would they(the Govt.)do then?

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“I am speaking on this blog mainly to people who profess a belief in God and the Bible and who nonetheless advocate for abortion.”

What about those who advocate for Shock and Awe?

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DannyX

January 3rd, 2013
12:24 pm

“Those weren’t Rupublicans going to Canada during the 60’s or demonstrating around all the colleges.”

Brain, a lot of them didn’t call themselves Republican back then, but sure do today.

” Danny, Very true, I wonder what the reason was for them changing their minds? “

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R. W. Extreme — “True…one gun will not stop a tyrannical government…..but 125 million, the estimated number of gun owners in this country, just might.”

I doubt you could even get one percent of that number to go along with you.

“You cite the Predator drone….it can spy on both you and me.”

And blow you to hell into the bargain.

“I do believe our government(under both parties) is getting a little to big for their britches. All the more reason for the Second Amendment.”

The way you’re talking, don’t be surprised if you get a special visit from the Feds.

People who talk like you do on Free Republic and other similar blogs seem to receive more than their share of such special visits.

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Jm — “John Lewis didn’t even vote on the fiscal cliff How can one be more chicken and useless than that?”

Guess you didn’t know that his wife died, jerk.

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” I am speaking on this blog mainly to people who profess a belief in God and the Bible and who nonetheless advocate for abortion”

That is strange because I dont know anyone who is married that has had abortion. This must be one of those east coast, west coast, or up north places where people do that. I have known teenagers who have gotten abortions.

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“You decided that anyone that supports abortion are not Christians.”

I believe that anyone, in the end, who goes on willfully sinning without repenting will not wind up in heaven. If abortion is a sin and advocacy of it is also a sin, if one persists in that behavior then that person is not really submitting himself to God. Can you provide any scriptures to support your advocacy of abortion? I know of none.

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Jm

5 Republicans didn’t vote either? Guess you were going to mention that in your next post.

Glad I could assist you. Do not mention it. You are welcome.

Anytime little buddy

And I guess Lewis being in Atlanta for his wife’s funeral had nothing to do with it.

You are a shameful and bitter fella

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Drone strike kills Taliban commander.

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Towncrier — “Sister, you can do whatever you want in your bedroom – God has given you the right to even go shoot up a bunch of school children if you are so inclined.”

I see. So now doing what one wants in one’s bedroom = shooting up a bunch of schoolchildren?

Lovely.

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Williebkind — “That is strange because I dont know anyone who is married that has had abortion.”

Yes, you do.

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“That brings us to the ultimate question: How can the Republican Party shed its reputation as extremist ”

Now that is the kettle calling the pot black. The republicans must do the same as Jay is doing here and that is attack the liberals with extreme prejudice.

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Paul — “But they sure taste good. So split three or four ways it ain’t so bad”

Perhaps, but I simply avoid them altogether.

I did find it interesting how well Cinnabon was doing in Tripoli, and how Benghazi is one of the planned future locations in Libya.

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willie,

Bring it .

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Hey Keep, it’s coming….

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/01/03/wendy-revamps-value-menu-adopts-right-price-right-size-as-costs-for-ingredients/?intcmp=features

Isn’t it great inflation is so low it couldn’t possibly be affecting food prices?!!!

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It is not the future of the GOP that is bleak.It is the future of the USA that is bleak. Why? LIBERALS!!!

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TC, religion should have no role in our government.

Proselytize all you want, but keep religion away from my gov’t…

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Joe Hussein Mama

’bout the only time I succumb is traveling thru an airport – and frankly, I can’t recall the last time I ate an entire one. I suppose I’m fortunate that way – years ago I was talking with my secretary, opened a desk drawer, pulled out a Snickers, took a couple bites, wrapped it back up and put it back in the drawer. She looked at me and said “how do you DO that?!!?” I said, ‘well, I had all I wanted. It was just the taste and a bit of hunger hit to overcome.”

As far as Benghazi, well, maybe we’re onto something here. Cinnabon franchises in Gaza, anyone?

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Jm

January 3rd, 2013
12:22 pm

John Lewis didn’t even vote on the fiscal cliff

How can one be more chicken and useless than that?
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His wife died Monday.

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jm,

A new low for you.

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RB, moving the goal posts. Have I ever said that inflation is so low it couldn’t affect food prices? You are one silly little boy.

food prices are definitely going to increase because of drought and climate change.

But not one mention of Obamacare. Hows that PJ pizza price?

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the other – 12:29

That is not what I asked.

I’m asking you what you think OUR Govt. would do after they “took over”

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Don’t worry getalife. I’m sure you’ll endeavor to reestablish a new standard of low. Your passive aggressiveness always does.

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Oh no!! Was that a drone I hear?!

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“Actually, you’re exercising your First Amendment rights in order to argue for the *abridgement* of the rights of others.”

That cannot happen without the consent of the majority of “the people”. And before that can happen. one must challenge and perhaps change the thinking of others. It is NO different than some liberals calling for an “abridgement” of the “right” to bear arms. So I fail to see what point you are trying to make.

“Instead of replying with a specious, irrelevant and ill-tempered retort like that, you might have done better to reflect on the fact that I haven’t *criticized* you for expressing your opinion.”

My friend, I used EXACTLY the same words you wrote to me. If they represented a “specious, irrelevant and ill-tempered retort”, then you I think are finding fault with yourself.

“That said, you’re clearly criticizing others for *choices and actions* that aren’t congruent with your own, not merely for their “positions.”

Shrug. I suspect that most posters here are not still having abortions. It is their advocacy of that practice that I am mostly challenging, so I disagree with your assessment. There is nothing irredeemable with having done a wrong (which I obviously consider abortion to be); it is rather, from a Biblical standpoint, the refusal to admit it’s wrong and the persistence in that behavior what is ultimately (I believe) unforgivable.

‘Return, faithless Israel,’ declares the LORD;
‘I will not look upon you in anger.
For I am gracious,’ declares the LORD;
‘I will not be angry forever.

‘Only acknowledge your iniquity,
That you have transgressed against the LORD your God
And have scattered your favors to the strangers under every green tree,
And you have not obeyed My voice,’ declares the LORD.

And

“Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.”

Prove me wrong from the scriptures about abortion and I will desist.

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“Careful Willie. Getalife may drone strike ya!”

You betcha

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Republicans are showing that they favor discrimination again…..no wonder people are looking at them strangely…….

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/01/03/tea-party-republicans-favor-spending-taxpayer-money-on-anti-gay-discrimination/?hpid=z2

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jm,

Apologize.

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How is being for traditional marriage and against baby killing extreme?

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The obvious reason is because of the far left kook media of which you are a part of Jay. The GOP should concentrate on breaking the legs out from under the media because they have created this false narrative that they are extreme. Sane informed working people know better…..

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It seems to me that we will all be held hostage in extremist purgatory for at least the next 2 years. As much as I would like to see recalls initiated quickly wherever legally possible for all House Tea Partycans, it is unrealistic to think the effort would be successful considering the gerrymandering that has occurred. P.S.–in the aggregate, Democratic candidates for the House gained more votes nationally than Republican candidates. Any successful effort will have to come from Republican moderates in their 2014 primaries. They should use the same tactics the Tea Party folks used on their folks in 2010–field opponents and/or the threat of opponents to run against extremists who do not moderate their positions. In other words, retake their Republican Party from those fanatics who have usurped control. Another P.S.–interesting how Tea Party has usurped tactics used by European and American Communists in 1930’s and 1940’s to attempt to subvert democratic countries.

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“against baby killing”

Are you antiwar, against poverty, hunger and for healthcare?

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Jm

January 3rd, 2013
12:46 pm

Getalife

I didn’t know his wife died

That said

I think he still should’ve voted on the most important issue facing his constituents. As painful as a funeral for your wife must be.
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An apology for your knee jerk nastiness would be nice.

I suspect he would have voted if his vote were needed.

Like Teddy Kennedy did in July 2008

Like Robert Byrd did in 2009.

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“Hope there are no logs in your eye.”

I hope not either. There certainly have been in the past. I think a good example is just the way I have acted here on this blog – being mean spirited and demeaning. It is wrong. I am sorry to all I have offended.

I guess the main reason I brought this subject up today is that, as a social conservative, I don’t see the “great divide” between Democrats and Republicans (as perhaps Jay and others might argue) as simply an inability to compromise or being too rigid and doctrinaire. There are many things the two can compromise upon, but some (at least for me and people like me) that cannot be compromised upon. In short, it’s not (for me) simply the Republicans are acting “crazy”. There are much deeper issues at stake.

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Jm,

Fail. You called a man “chicken and useless” without bothering to know anything about the reason he was not at work that day. Then you reiterated that your point was still valid. Big. Fat. Fail. = You.

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Kammie loves her some signs.

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“How is being for traditional marriage and against baby killing extreme?”

CC, what exactly is traditional marriage? Conservative churches that spout the “traditional marriage” bs are filled with members who divorce, commit adultery and remarry in direct violation of the law Jesus set.

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Towncrier

Just checking, not looking for an argument, but do you support abortion if the mother would die without one? Or in case of rape? Or incest?

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Uh Oh

http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2013/01/03/chairman-of-illinois-gop-endorses-gay-marriage/

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Call Kammie butter cause she’s on a roll!

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getalife

His doubling down on Lewis shows more about him than he will ever know and certainly admit if he did know

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getalife:

I just simply pointing out the fact that the dem Party stands for unfettered abortion(baby killing)….

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the dem Party stands for unfettered abortion

Nope. Fail.

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Another Republican opens mouth and inserts foot…….
They just don’t get it!!!

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/writers/jessica_vanegeren/glenn-grothman-s-anti-kwanzaa-comments-create-ruckus/article_7bcd5e04-552a-11e2-844e-0019bb2963f4.html

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getalife scolding people about their blog comments is rich indeed!

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robert goulet

“Paul:

“Congress had, months ago, approved the funding.”

This is the problem with government. They “approve” funding even if it is an amount that only budgetary. ”

Ummm… no, it’s not just ‘budgetary.” It’s law. It’s legal authority for affected agencies to incur obligations (spend the money). Congress has already granted the spending up to that limit. If that limit exceeds the debt limit, and Congress is unwilling to raise revenue, then the only other option is to increase the borrowing authority.

So the point is, Republicans in the House approved legislation to spend funds in excess of the debt limit. Already did it. Now they want to make it seem as if they’re in some grand effort to control spending. They’re not.

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Bookman’s right. The GOP needs to move to the middle: They have to insist on free medical care from cradle to grave for everyone; they have to insist on free housing, food, education and all the comforts denied to everyone due to the wealthy among us. They have to insist that business owners take advice from non-business owners because they certainly know more about running a business than do the owners. Also, they must guarantee a life-long pension for anyone that can spell their name correctly. Another thing: the GOP must stop insisting on personal responsibility; that’s what got ‘em in trouble to begin with.

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Kamspam!!!!!

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Uh Oh

GOP Chair says he’s okay with gay marriage? I’m sure the gay will be breakin’ out and flying all over tomorrow as lifelong heterosexuals flip the switch because of this.

Oh, the humanity!

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I’m afraid the republicans will have to save themselves. They’ll need to run serious, moderate candidates in primaries agains the wingnuts that so embarrass us daily.
I’m not sanguine about that happening (for the republican intellectuals out there, that means I’m not optimistic about it).

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getalife

And as you noticed, still not a word from Jm about the 5 Republicans who did not vote.

8 members of Congress did not vote for some reason or another and 5 were Republican.

Jm decides to pick the one whose wife died to do his typical whine.

He might be a character, but he surely doesn’t seem to have a good one

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Jewel thieves burrow into wrong store, hit KFC instead…

Maybe they were really after the 11 herbs and spices recipe

Oh, and:

drudgey spam.

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Right wing fanaticism is a disease. But like most pathogens it will run it’s course and die off.

Zero is back?

Cool, more con meltdowns for the blogging buck.

cc, strong defense? Good lord, what ever happened to intelligent discourse?

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Today starts our President’s agenda for his second term.

Jobs, immigration and guns.

Forward.

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C. Conservative — “Conservative churches that spout the “traditional marriage” bs are filled with members who divorce, commit adultery and remarry in direct violation of the law Jesus set. And they are sinners and will be punished id GOD so judges. I am not one of those people you refer to. So I’m certainly entitled to speak what I think is right for a normal moral society….”

Fair enough.

I’d like to ask you a question, and I’m really not trying to play ‘gotcha’ here.

Let’s assume, for the sake of argument, that a couple is a member of a religion that *permits* divorce. If that couple divorces, do you have any issue with that? How about a couple that was not married in any church, but was married instead by a judge or justice of the peace? Any problem with them getting a divorce?

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Don’t your have a cab to drive JellyVet? Time is money dude!

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…second term…jobs…AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

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Lets think about jay’s tripe for a moment. If the GOP is so extreme why is it that they control more state gubmints than at any time in our nations history. Take Georgia for instance. Our state is run efficient because it has to be. Sooner or later bankrupt high taxed blue states like CA and NY will wise up and want GOP leadership nationally.

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nero,

Watch how many cons vote against Sandy money today..

Christie will.

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jm,

Waiting…….

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Keep Up the Good Fight!:

And Roe V Wade is pro-death. There’s no arguing that Oblama is for baby killing. Here’s proof…

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292204/obama-s-infanticide-votes-patrick-brennan#

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Tbs

People schedule funerals around extenuating circumstances all the time

Like the ability of certain people to attend

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CC, your constant failure and inability to prove your point without moving your goalposts should be a sign to you.

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jm,

You are known as the con that attacked Lewis for attending his wife’s funeral.

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Fetalife

No

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Should I use the nookyalur option on Zero? LOL!

Speaking of preposterous, Georgia is run efficiently???

Lynnie gal (the slut, prostitute and FemiNazi!) is right, it has gotten to the point where the anti-GOP movement doesn’t have to do a damn thing anymore except to just keep giving these fanatical sociopaths more rope!

Given the results of November 6, they seem to be very efficient at using it…

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“Any problem with them getting a divorce?”

Here’s a couple of other questions: if 2 people are already married, and fall in love with each other…and each gets divorced from their spouse of a few years…and marries each other and are still married decades later when they each die.

Which are the marriages “sanctioned” by God? The first, unhappy, marriages. Or the second one for each that lasted until “death do us part”?

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“What makes you think I care about Sandy? Lol!”

You proved Jay’s point.

Congrats radical extremist.

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Bookman just admit you’re a stranger in a strange land, pack your carpetbags, and go back to PA where you belong!!!

I believe Jay to be spot on in his analysis.

I was born on Peachtree St., sport.

Are you gonna tell me to go back where I belong?

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Jay, you’re stumped because you do not step out of your narrow viewpoints supported by the same syncophant crowd as last year, same old BS extremeist stuff….boring, time to move to a different paper or change to some other group of issues, your political opinion pieces are repetitve , predictable and boring, please AJC shift your people around for fresh ideas and thoughts, the syncophants are ruling the opinion “leaders”… “uterus’–if only your mother had thought ahead….

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getalife,

You can’t force an apology from someone who’s not sorry he’s a hateful little *bleep*.

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getalife

Jm is who he is. I would hope those kind of statements and character were something not taught to him by his parents, but who knows.

His character and compassion are both shining bright through his crocodile tears

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Matti

Exactly. Well said

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…same old BS extremeist[sic] stuff….boring… [...] …your political opinion pieces are repetitve , predictable and boring…

Do you need one of us to contact the authorities because you are being held against your will and forced to read and respond to Jay’s blog?

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“Georgia? The one in the United States?”

Couldn’t be.

Linda Schrenko is still doing time, Sonny Perdue should be. John Oxendine was a joke, Glenn Richardson was nailing a lobbyist, David Ralston took a nice family vacation on a lobbyist’s dime, AGENDA 21!!!! 2.1 million dollar no-collateral signature loans, half a billion Deal deficit ballooning port pork, half a billion deficit ballooning race to the top funds, no bid government contracts for Deal, Don Balfour and his thieving, $300 million for a unneeded stadium, Georgia Power give-a-ways, and of course Beth Merkleson!

What Georgia were you talking about, Christian Conservative?

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Christian Conservative

January 3rd, 2013
1:22 pm

Who gives a flip about what your religion has to say about modern topics? The arrogance is breathtaking…

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Hollywould

So if you wife or love one dies today, you will be at work tomorrow?

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Fetalife

I was done here a while ago

Just dropping in on the crazies

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Matti:

D’OH! Cutting education year after year is no way to run a state. Can we re-fund our English departments, please?

Georgia’s education system absorbs billions a year. Georgia can only spend what it takes in. We can’t simple print money and spend like drunken sailors like the federal gubmint does. The education system in some places is an utter failure and would be even if more money is spend. So cuts are needed on occasion.

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Christian Conservative

January 3rd, 2013
1:13 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!:

And Roe V Wade is pro-death. There’s no arguing that Oblama is for baby killing. Here’s proof…

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/292204/obama-s-infanticide-votes-patrick-brennan#
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I gotta’ challenge you on the big one fella.

I don’t think you are anymore a true Christian than my dog.

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“I will do my part!”

This is the year Americans marginalize you extremists.

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I agree with the republicans on guns, not rewarding illegals, (even the children of illegals. it aint there fault but it aint my fault or the fault of my children who have to compete against them for jobs either).

i agree with the dems/president on taxing the wealthy and deadbeat corps, labor unions, ending tax breaks for oil companies, stope giving tax incentives to businesses leaving our country etc etc etc and the debt ceiling and balancing cuts with revenue increases.

i agree with neither on the massive bloated military budget. cut it in half would be a good start.

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…free “Obama phones” and other handouts…

There’s your sign.

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C. Conservative — “Homo marriage is not in some 30+ states.”

Just wait a bit. It’ll be legal in all 50 soon enough.

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AmericaShrugged:

If Bookman did move back to PA he would be in a strange land there to. Republicans have complete control of that state to… LOL..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_General_Assembly

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Williebkind

January 3rd, 2013
1:28 pm

WOW, this is the first time I’ve ever been accused of being a Liberal on this site!

GETALIFE et al…please take note..

BTW, christians, muslims and the like bring themselves down thru destructive retarding of society, polluting the political game with metaphysics and immaginary friends, and turning off all others with the arrogance of Donald Trump..

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Granny Godzilla:

Wow you must be Jesus? You know whats in my heart… You fruits are a riot…

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Senator walks capital hill steps after stroke.

Welcome to the club Senator.

jm will cry about him not voting too right jm?

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williebkind — “You and your liberal ilk do! You have basically declared war on christains.”

What, did somebody force you to get gay-married or something?

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Christian Conservative

January 3rd, 2013
1:32 pm

Why is it any of your business who can marry whom? What are you afraid of? Clearly it’s a fear based bigotry…

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Stevie Ray:

Who gives a flip about your opinion period… I’m happy in my bright red state….

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“C. Conservative — “Homo marriage is not in some 30+ states.”

JHM, notice how they had to update their talking point from ‘not a single state has approved gay marriage through the ballot box”?

Still waiting for Georgia to defend Biblical marriage with an no divorce amendment.

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“Hang around Jm, you bring the entertainment”

Playing clown so long has tired him and his sock puppets.

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This blog is a prime example of why Georgia is bright red. Look at the minuscule amount of dems posting here… That’s about all we have here in Georgia…

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Stevie Ray

Like Bruno, you were not supposed to bring up anything against Christianity. As right leaning as he is on economics, the times I saw were he said anything negative about Christianity………… he was called out and ridiculed like they are doing to you.

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TBS

January 3rd, 2013
1:33 pm

I shop at Kroger racking up at least 600 gas points a month. Next time you go, walk down the peanut butter aisle. I think organic foods are health neutral at best. So I don’t buy them….

I’ve done all the grocery shopping for my family since I’ve been married. Before things got tight, I never paid attention to what I was spending..can you believe that? It was weekly multi-hundred dollar spends at Whole Foods…I only go there for fish now…love the produce but it’s obscenely overprices..IMO

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“There’s your sign”

The daily over under on how many times the repetitive post bunny would spout this particular kamspam was 10. So far it looks like the over bettors may bank some coin by the end of the day.

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Joe Hussein Mama
January 3rd, 2013
1:30 pm

C. Conservative — “Homo marriage is not in some 30+ states.”

Just wait a bit. It’ll be legal in all 50 soon enough.”

Technically, via the Constitution…it already is!! As long as a marriage is recognized in ONE state (it’s now in 8 states plus DC)…it MUST be recognized in all 50! The Supremes should rule this way when the cases come before them (probably 5-4 decision….but look for a 6-3 with Sotomayor, Kagan, Ginsburg, Breyer, Kennedy, and Roberts on the decision!)……..

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Christian Conservative,

Bless your heart. You missed that my comment was a subtle jab at your grammar.

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DannyX — “JHM, notice how they had to update their talking point from ‘not a single state has approved gay marriage through the ballot box”?

Ayup. It’s just a matter of time.

“Still waiting for Georgia to defend Biblical marriage with an no divorce amendment.”

I could respect a religious conservative in government who advocated that. I’m not saying I’d *agree* with him, but I could respect that he was being consistent in his arguments by treating marriage as the ’sacrament’ that so many religious folk say that it is.

I understand that former US Senator Al D’Amato and his first wife were separated for many years due to their reluctance to actually divorce, which, from what I’ve read, stemmed from their devout practice of Catholicism. That said, I believe that Senator D’Amato and his first wife did eventually divorce (and he later remarried another woman).

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Another bleak outlook for dems is the 2014 Senate… Many dems will be vulnerable….

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_elections,_2014

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Christians make up about 75% of the people in this country.

They also make up about 80% of the people in our federal prisons.

Something is really wrong here…

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JamVet

January 3rd, 2013
1:39 pm

Here is my ideal metaphor for Christmas. True story. A neighbor of mine had a inflatable nativity scene in his yard..complete with inflatable and what appeared to be the 6 lb 8 oz baby jesus. Completely overshadowing this was an enormous santa with gifts in tow riding a smiling polar bear..there it is..

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14 will give our President a rubber stamp congress for his last two years.

Bet on it.

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“You have basically declared war on christains”

Who are “christains”?

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Christian Conservative. Please tell me…

After the trailers given to Katrina victims were discovered to have caused all types of sickness and cancer………… should the Republican’s have sided with the makers of the trailers, or the folks who were given them ?

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Christian Conservative – “you fruits are a riot”

That is MOST UNCHRISTIAN.

Better contact your fundamentalist minister and have him come to your house so you can kneel together, hold hands and beg forgiveness from God.

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TBS

January 3rd, 2013
1:38 pm

To be sure, it is a much, much more interesting undertaking on Kyles and other right wing posts i frequent…the stuff I hear and get damn-nated for makes great reading. Everyone has freedom of and from religion which is a major attraction of our country. But when metaphysics are introduced as argument to further a point, I gotta go a bit postal.

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Christian Conservative

January 3rd, 2013
1:33 pm

Granny Godzilla:

Wow you must be Jesus?

Flattery will get you nowhere

You know whats in my heart…

Heavens no, just what you post

You fruits are a riot…

Like that, so very conservative of you and yet lacking that certain true christian style

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“Better contact your fundamentalist minister and have him come to your house so you can kneel together, hold hands and beg forgiveness from God.”

That is pretty good advice.

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GETALIFE

Did you see that i was referred to as a Liberal earlier? That wasn’t expected…

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“Why is it any of your business who can marry whom? What are you afraid of? Clearly it’s a fear based bigotry…”

Then clearly nearly all of mankind has been bigoted for nearly all of recorded history. In exit polling on the California referendum on gay marriage whites were split on gay marriage. Hispanics voted against it and blacks voted overwhelmingly against gay marriage by 70%.

So I’m curious if you reserve as much criticism and accusations of bigotry against say black people for voting against gay marriage. Or does that just not fit your pre-conceived narrative?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/11/70-of-african-a.html

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indigo:

How is it unChristain to laugh at what you far left fruits say….

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Stevie Ray – 1:42 “make important decisions based on fantasyland”

And yet, that is precisly what that good Christian George W. Bush did for eight years in the White House, to the complete approval of almost all the cons in the land.

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Doggone — “Who are “christains”?

It’s a punk band. Kind of like the Crucif*cks.

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Time Warner Cable Drops Current TV Upon Sale To Al Jazeera

“This channel is no longer available on Time Warner Cable,” read an on-screen message where Current TV used to be found.

Hmmmmmm . . . .

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williebkind — “No, I do not work for CNN or the AJC.”

non-sequitur

“Is this homosexual thing on your mind a lot?”

Is this “ZOMG PPL DECLARING WAR ON US” delusion on your mind a lot?

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josef:

They should be punished… This has no place in school….

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Aquagirl

Jesse has nothing next to you

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jm,

So Senator Kirk gets a free pass because he is gop.

Got it.

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josef,

Our Principle made us do that after fighting in elementary school.

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Christian Conservative

January 3rd, 2013
1:50 pm

Granny Godzilla:

And I know what you post hun… And its fruity
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Fruit is of course much healthier for the mind and body than the bile you spew.

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Dear Lord

Please be patient with “Christian Conservative”, he has been led away from you and your love.

Please don’t kill him in a tragic lawn mower accident and condemn him to the eternity of fire,
before he finds your true spirit.

Thanks God, you’re a peach!

(a fruit you may note)

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BTW cc, 91% of executed murderers in this country are……………………… you guessed it, Christian.

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I’m out…..

Keep ole CC in your prayers and meditations.

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getalife

January 3rd, 2013
1:52 pm

oh come on you big silly! I do and always will detest anyone who fights against womens rights, gay rights and the like for any reason…it’s no different that the Taliban and it’s demand that mankind be damned…we want the stone age…drag our pleasure neutered women by the hair..all for the sacred choice in dusty books..Ugh

The Taliban is an extreme and hyperbolic example, but the idea to live in a world defined by 2000 year old manual seems borish in both examples..

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Whisky

Tango

FOXTROT

Just saw a banner ad for this abomination on the side of the page.

http://gritchips.com/our-flavors/

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“Just saw a banner ad for this abomination on the side of the page.”

It’s a sign of the apocalypse…

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What is it about Moslems and Christians that makes them feel they have the right to tell you what to do?

Self importance.

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Stevie Ray,

I believe,

Get your religion out of politics.

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getalife

In elementary school, how did that make you feel and what “lesson” did you learn? High School and the ridicule that came, how would that make you feel, and why?

CC
So, what should be done to the principal? What would be the Christian thing to do, and I’m not being snarky. I’d like your opinion on that.

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“It’s a punk band. Kind of like the Crucif*cks”

Gotcha! If I’m at war…I like to at least know who the enemy is!

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What is it about certain “Christians” that makes them feel they have the right to tell you what to do?

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Jm@12:22 pm

John Lewis didn’t even vote on the fiscal cliff

How can one be more chicken and useless than that?

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His wife of 44 years died monday

I will stop at that statement and not say what I am thinking about your statement

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I don’t think the future looks that horribly bleak for the GOP. Long run there certainly are demographic challenges to contend with, but demographic changes tend to take longer to than most armchair pundits realize. And there will always be specific policy battles that may put the GOP in a less than popular position. In a contemplative moment, I think all but the most purely partisan bloggers will acknowledge this and also that there are specific policy battles that paint the Democrats unfavorably as well.

On the short term front: the GOP doesn’t always do a good job of marketing, clearly, but let’s look at the recent tax battle. Ignore the rhetoric and handwringing and just look at the results: the GOP won hands down. The Bush-era tax rates were made permanent for over 99% of filers in the US. The Bush-era dividend and capital gain rates were made permanent. The payroll tax reduction has concluded and the other concessions made for UE benefits are going to be temporary in nature. When push came to shove, despite their protestations over the last ten years, Democrats signed up for those rates as well in a bipartisan manner.

Now that the political fingerpointing over raising taxes on just the top 1% or 2% (which wasn’t even going to put a meaningful dent in the deficit) is over, Congress turns its attention to the spending side of the ledger, where the potential exists to make progress on reducing the deficit. We’ll see what that yields.

Medium Term: the GOP controls a plurality of governships and state legislatures. Its prospects for maintaining control of the House look promising for several years. If some of the more extreme members of the party can be muzzled (always a big IF), the GOP can do just fine in the upcoming Senate races of 2014.

So in a nutshell, Jay, I respectfully disagree that the GOP’s future looks so bleak. I can imagine that you and several fellow bloggers who share your political persuasion may wish it were so, but I personally don’t see it that way. Political fortunes can change very quickly and the GOP still has several things working in its favor.

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