Chris Christie lashes out at GOP House, Boehner
For those unable to watch the video above, here’s a partial transcript of the scathing remarks made this afternoon by New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, in which he lambasted fellow Republicans in the U.S. House for their refusal to act on an emergency-relief bill for his state and others devastated by Hurricane Sandy back in October:
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“Thirty-one days for Andrew victims. Seventeen days for victims of Gustav and Ike. Ten days for victim of Katrina. For the victims of Sandy in New Jersey, New York and Connecticut, it has been 66 days, and the wait continues. There is only one group to blame for the continued suffering of these innocent victims: the House majority and their speaker, John Boehner.
“… National disasters happen in red states and blue states and states with Democratic governors and Republican governors. We respond to national disasters not as Republicans or Democrats, but as Americans. Or at least we did, until last night. Last night, politics was placed before oaths to serve our citizens. For me, it was disappointing and disgusting to watch….”
“I’ve always put the people of New Jersey and my oath ahead of personal, petty politics. Last night, the House of Representatives failed that most basic test of public service, and they did so with callous indifference to the suffering of the people of my state.
“On the equities, this should be a no-brainer for the House Republicans as well. Both New York and New Jersey used the international firm of McKinsey and Co. to assess and quantify the damage to our states. Our professional staffs have spent countless hours with congressional staff providing leadership and back-up documentation for all the damage claims. Gov. Cuomo and I have spent hours and hours speaking to individual members of the House and Senate to answer their questions. We worked with President Obama and his administration and satisfied them of the urgent need of this $60 billion aid package.
“This was good enough for 62 United States senators of both parties to vote for this package. This was good enough for a majority of the House of Representatives. It overcame all the factual challenges. It just could not overcome the toxic internal politics of the House majority.
“Finally, New York and New Jersey are perennially among the most generous states in the nation to our fellow states. We vote for disaster relief for other states in need. We are donor states, sending much more to Washington, DC than we ever get back in federal spending. Despite this history of unbridled generosity, in our hour of desperate need we’ve been left waiting for help six times longer than the victims of Katrina, with no end in sight.
“Americans are tired of the palace intrigue and political partisanship of this Congress, which places one-upsmanship ahead of the lives of the citizens who sent these people to Washington, DC, in the first place. New Jerseyans and New Yorkers are tired of being treated like second-class citizens. New York deserves better than the selfishness we saw on display last night. New Jersey deserves better than the duplicity we saw on display last night. America deserves better than just another example of a government that has forgotten who they are there to serve, and why.
Sixty-six days and counting. Shame on you. Shame on Congress.”
Christie’s anger is perfectly justified, for all the reasons that he laid out and more. But as he suggested in his comments, this is merely the latest egregious example of the ideological preening and misplaced priorities exhibited by those in control of the U.S. House of Representatives.
– Jay Bookman
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SouthernGent
January 2nd, 2013
7:43 pm
Josef, I have a lot of compassion, but New Jersey needs to seek to reform the federal government’s taxing system, not aggravate it by seeking federal help for a local problem. The same was true with Katrina. The US taxpayer is not an insurer of risks of coastal living.
josef
January 2nd, 2013
7:44 pm
SOOTH
Yep…he’s got chutzpah! And that’s a good thing.
—-
And here come’s Peter with that superior non Georgia education still having problems with the nominative plural and the genitive singular!
Thulsa Doom
January 2nd, 2013
7:44 pm
“Not intended to be a factual statement.”
Its still early folks but at this torrid, frenetic pace the repetitive post bunny is well ahead of last year’s number of repetitive posts. Go Kam Go!
Adam
January 2nd, 2013
7:45 pm
Thulsa: You said the report was $97k in a single transaction. If so, that WOULD be the business’s fault, or the ATM’s fault for having that much money and allowing it, and the government’s fault for allowing someone to have that much on their TANF balance.
If you are now contending this was done over time with multiple people and multiple transactions, then I have to wonder how many people and what transactions? Because that seems to quite possibly dilute the entire point of the sensationalism.
Soothsayer
January 2nd, 2013
7:47 pm
Jay don’t wear no hairpiece. Heck, you can look right up there at the top of the page and tell that!
I want you to stay, Fred! And, I think ol’ Jay wants you to stay.
Aquagirl
January 2nd, 2013
7:49 pm
Jay don’t wear no hairpiece. Heck, you can look right up there at the top of the page and tell that!
No kidding. If that’s a hairpiece, he should get his money back. Plus damages for pain and suffering.
Doggone/GA
January 2nd, 2013
7:52 pm
“Its still early folks but at this torrid, frenetic pace the repetitive post bunny is well ahead of last year’s number of repetitive posts”
We need some cheese to go with that whine
F. Sinkwich
January 2nd, 2013
7:52 pm
“You take the easy way to victory that’s your choice, but I will not bow down.”
Ol’ Freddie sure is full of himself.
Bless his heart.
Adam
January 2nd, 2013
7:53 pm
Fred: I recommend learning some tact and diplomacy. You don’t need to fight every fight just because you perceive that you’ve been slighted.
Recon 0311 2533
January 2nd, 2013
7:53 pm
Been out of town…what do we have here this evening a little liberal family spat? Must be a split in the far-left exposing jack asses.
josef
January 2nd, 2013
7:53 pm
Marietta
You are completely missing the point of what is entailed in the response to widespread disaster. There is no “hand out” involved in what is being asked for.
And this, like New Orleans, is not a “local problem.” The impact of a disaster of this magnitude on any part of our country is not confined to just the local area.
But why, as Doggone asked, are you just seeing the coastal areas? What if this were, say, the big one along the New Madrid?
getalife
January 2nd, 2013
7:54 pm
I have been banned on many blogs and deserved it.
Doggone/GA
January 2nd, 2013
7:55 pm
“What if this were, say, the big one along the New Madrid?”
Or, closer to home, a tornado through the heart of downtown Atlanta? This is, after all, “Little Torndao Alley”
Maybe we should all move to Marietta’s backyard. Must be safe there.
barking frog
January 2nd, 2013
7:55 pm
Fred ™
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3H6YE-40xg
TBS
January 2nd, 2013
7:56 pm
josef
Happy Hour must have just ended
Thulsa Doom
January 2nd, 2013
7:56 pm
Granny Godzilla
January 2nd, 2013
7:29 pm
Thulsa
“How dynamic would you make an investigation into the rape of your boy?”
Granny Godzilla,
Stop your emotionalism parade for just a moment and do some reading. The gov. is suing because he felt the sanctions against PSU are too tough. The sanctions for the most part only punish students and athletes today who have absolutely nothing to do with what Sandusky did decades ago. Do you think its fair to punish innocent people for the actions of other people?
Soothsayer
January 2nd, 2013
7:58 pm
Well, I’ve only been banned on one blog — Kyle’s — and I don’t think I deserved that. Were it not for a certain P*SSY there, it wouldn’t have happened. Heck, cain’t a feller have a little fun onced in a while?
barking frog
January 2nd, 2013
7:58 pm
getalife
I have never been banned on any blog and I didn’t deserve it.
Thulsa Doom
January 2nd, 2013
7:59 pm
“Fred: I recommend learning some tact and diplomacy”
Adam,
While that sounds like sage advice to Fred you came off as a little condescending and belittling. That’s my department and I would appreciate you staying off my turf.
Thulsa Doom
January 2nd, 2013
8:01 pm
Dang if Jay does’t have a mighty fine hairpiece. I hope I get one that nice when I get to be an old ass decrepit fart. Not saying Jay is an old ass decrepit fart mind you.
Recon 0311 2533
January 2nd, 2013
8:02 pm
I have never been banned on any blog and I didn’t deserve it.
Frog, that’s a good one.
JamVet
January 2nd, 2013
8:02 pm
To Jay’s point to Marietta Al, I guarandamntee you that if a natural disaster hit a Republican’s home or community, they would be the first in line screaming for immediate help from Uncle Sugar.
And they would, with a completely straight face, say that is so because………………….. they have already paid in their fair share for all of the mooches in this country.
Soothsayer
January 2nd, 2013
8:03 pm
Al-Jazeera buys Current TV from Al Gore
LOS ANGELES —
Al-Jazeera, the Pan-Arab news channel that has struggled to win space on American cable television, has acquired Current TV, Al Gore confirmed Wednesday.
Gore and his partner Joel Hyatt announced the sale in a statement.
WHOA SHYTE! I can already hear it now!
josef
January 2nd, 2013
8:03 pm
TBS
I caught that, too!
THULSA
@ 7:59
Welcome to the Occupation
January 2nd, 2013
8:04 pm
“But as he suggested in his comments, this is merely the latest egregious example of the ideological preening ”
What makes liberals like Jay assume that the actions of House Republicans are merely about “preening”, I wonder.
These people are clearly ideological insurgents, and as such they do not comport to what the mainstream and liberals believe should be the guiding principles of what politics should be. They are not interested in working with the system but in tearing it down.
Doggone/GA
January 2nd, 2013
8:04 pm
“guarandamntee you that if a natural disaster hit a Republican’s home or community, they would be the first in line screaming for immediate help from Uncle Sugar”
What do you mean IF? When it happened right here in “River City”, they DID.
barking frog
January 2nd, 2013
8:05 pm
Thulsa Doom
Do you think its fair to punish innocent people for the actions of other people?
………………………………………………………………………….
Happens all the time and is called collateral damage. This was not many years
ago, it began many years ago and continued until recently.
Thomas Heyward Jr
January 2nd, 2013
8:06 pm
Hey to Christie……….and all you other New jersey federalie prostrating boot-licking cabbage-heads———-
.
Buy insurance, you blood sucking entitlement headed shi#t heads.!
.
And to the few Decent folks left up there that are being thwarted, screwed, and/or red-taped by your respective criminal insurance companies because of the Washington cesspool fema/crook negotiations ……………good luck..and…remember………this TOO will pass.
The Freedom Brigade grows.
.
Recon 0311 2533
January 2nd, 2013
8:06 pm
Not saying Jay is an old ass decrepit fart mind you.
Doom, Jay’s in show biz and only trying to make a living. Seconds have a rough life.
Thulsa Doom
January 2nd, 2013
8:06 pm
“You said the report was $97k in a single transaction”
Adam,
If I wrote that then its obvious I was just typing too fast. Hopefully we’re all smart enough to realize that no one person has a $97,000 tanf card. It was multiple transactions done by many people over one year.
guy
January 2nd, 2013
8:07 pm
Why can’t we have a dollar in tax increases and at the same time have a dollar in spending cuts? People would rather bash each other than bash those in Washington. No wonder things are getting worse.
F. Sinkwich
January 2nd, 2013
8:08 pm
” I guarandamntee you that if a natural disaster hit a Republican’s home or community, they would be the first in line screaming for immediate help from Uncle Sugar.”
Jammie likes to project a lot.
He knows everything.
Don’t believe me? Just ask him.
moonbat betty
January 2nd, 2013
8:08 pm
Recon,
You haven’t missed a thing.
The libs are partying over their huge win today at doing nothing.
4 more years.
Doggone/GA
January 2nd, 2013
8:08 pm
“Why can’t we have a dollar in tax increases and at the same time have a dollar in spending cuts?”
Great idea…now what would you suggest be cut? Because, in case you haven’t been paying attention, the issue is not THAT we need cuts…it’s WHERE we make those cuts.
Peace
January 2nd, 2013
8:11 pm
Wish someone would explain how it was determined that $60+ billion was needed to pay for Sandy’s damage. Does that amount cover damage to PUBLIC property only, or does it include money to rebuild private homes and businesses that should have been covered by private insurers? And those that didn’t have flood insurance….
Welcome to the Occupation
January 2nd, 2013
8:12 pm
“Why can’t we have a dollar in tax increases and at the same time have a dollar in spending cuts?”
Because the American political elite — both parties — have decided that there must be anywhere from 6-8x the number of cuts as spending increases.
That simple.
Got a problem with it? (I do.)
Doggone/GA
January 2nd, 2013
8:13 pm
“does it include money to rebuild private homes ”
If it does, they will be in form of loans – as is usual – not in the form of grants, except, possibly, in truly special situations.
Recon 0311 2533
January 2nd, 2013
8:13 pm
moonbat betty,
4 more beers times 365 days times 4. Lets start early so we can get through it.
Thulsa Doom
January 2nd, 2013
8:13 pm
barking frog,
Sandusky retired from Penn St. almost 14 years ago in 1999. I’m not saying Penn St. shouldn’t be punished at all. I’m saying that the penalties are excessive and for the most part punish people that have nothing to do with a guy who left back in 1999.
I can’t agree with calling it collateral damage or that its somehow ok that people who had nothing to do with it are the ones paying such a hefty price. Punishing the wrong people serves no purpose in my opinion.
getalife
January 2nd, 2013
8:14 pm
moonbat,
The compromise is not nothing.
It is a giant step forward.
Immigration reform is next.
It will pass .
.
josef
January 2nd, 2013
8:14 pm
Let’s be rational here. The Mississippi Gulf Coast was back up and taking care of business in a matter of days after Katrina and work on rebuilding has been pretty much on schedule. There’s a good reason for this. Following Camille, they got their sh*t together and made preparations not for “if” it happens again, but “when” it happens again. That Haley Barbour was governor at the time was a decided advantage since he knew which buttons to push and had the know how to get it done.
This type of thing is new to New Jersey and New York. They’ll learn, but it’s simply not something they were ready for. Cut ‘em some slack.
barking frog
January 2nd, 2013
8:15 pm
$1 in tax increases hurts the economy $1 in spending decreases
hurts the economy more but $1 in tax increases on the rich has
practically no effect on the economy.
moonbat betty
January 2nd, 2013
8:15 pm
Is anyone “happy” about what is going on in our congress and executive branches right now?
Doggone/GA
January 2nd, 2013
8:16 pm
“Cut ‘em some slack”
Slack they’re willing to give. It’s money and compassion that they prefer be in short supply
barking frog
January 2nd, 2013
8:17 pm
Thulsa
Were you aware of the Sandusky affair 14 years ago ?
Recon 0311 2533
January 2nd, 2013
8:17 pm
guy,
We now have $41.00 in tax increases for $1.00 in spending cuts. Welcome to the constipation.
moonbat betty
January 2nd, 2013
8:18 pm
It will pass .
getalife, “reform”, sure. Quit Bogarting, pass it on over, homeboy.
Aquagirl
January 2nd, 2013
8:19 pm
Does that amount cover damage to PUBLIC property only, or does it include money to rebuild private homes and businesses that should have been covered by private insurers?
There’s a breakdown at Jamie Dupree’s blog. He’s the go-to guy for stuff like this.
http://blogs.ajc.com/jamie-dupree-washington-insider/2012/12/12/senates-hurricane-sandy-relief-plan/
Thulsa Doom
January 2nd, 2013
8:19 pm
“The libs are partying over their huge win today at doing nothing.”
Moonbat betty,
Yep. I remember last year when the Rs made a stand about raising the debt ceiling and they eventually caved. The libs on here were gloating as if they’ld just won a million dollars. Strange that they were gloating so much over bankrupting the country further and doing nothing about the debt. They do love they do nothing parties they do!
Barney
January 2nd, 2013
8:20 pm
Okay gang, let’s all sing the Thulsa Theme Song!
I love me,
You love me,
You’re all my happy family.
99 bottles of beer on the wall,
88 bottles of beer…
Hiccup!
Where am I.
barking frog
January 2nd, 2013
8:20 pm
Thulsa Doom
Retired but,
In 1977, Sandusky founded The Second Mile, a non-profit charity serving Pennsylvania underprivileged and at-risk youth.[4] After Sandusky retired as assistant coach at Penn State, he continued working with The Second Mile at Penn State; even maintaining an office at Penn State until 2011.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 2nd, 2013
8:20 pm
Isn’t it interesting that this supposedly “liberal” president just made a large swatch of the despised Bush tax cuts permanent?
Just so that bloodthirsty thug Romney didn’t get to do it!
moonbat betty
January 2nd, 2013
8:21 pm
Recon,
8:17, apparently, that’s the new definition of “compromise”.
josef
January 2nd, 2013
8:22 pm
DOGGONE
That, too…
JamVet
January 2nd, 2013
8:22 pm
What’s been done in the name of Jesus?
What’s been done in the name of Buddha?
What’s been done in the name of Islam?
What’s been done in the name of man?
What’s been done in the name of liberation?
And in the name of civilization?
And in the name of race?
And in the name of peace?
Everybody
Loves to see
Justice done
On somebody else
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9uBiXTlIMg
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
8:22 pm
Doomy: I really have no desire to address you BUT I think you are the local “expert” on what I wish to know, (no, I don’t wan the price of xxxxxlarge speedos with xxxlsmall cod pieces).
Arent’ you an insurance guy? It’s my recollection that when the President declares an area a “disaster area” that absolves all the insurance companies their liability in that area and makes the payment now incumbent on the US Gov’t.
Am I right or wrong?
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
8:23 pm
Recon 0311 2533
January 2nd, 2013
8:17 pm
guy,
We now have $41.00 in tax increases for $1.00 in spending cuts. Welcome to the constipation.
+++++++++++++++++++++
We got that Rush/FOXBOT spam 2 threads ago but thanks for repeating it.
Thulsa Doom
January 2nd, 2013
8:24 pm
“Were you aware of the Sandusky affair 14 years ago ?”
Barking frog, that is irrelevant to the point that I’m making- that the punishment is excessive and mostly affects people that had nothing to do with any of this.
If a man murdered someone 14 years ago and gets convicted of it today do we punish as a matter of routine other people for something he did- people who in no way, shape, or form were connected to the man or the murder he committed?
Doggone/GA
January 2nd, 2013
8:27 pm
“We now have $41.00 in tax increases for $1.00 in spending cuts. Welcome to the constipation.”
Sure. because having passed THIS bill…they are prevented from EVER passing anything else, right?
Welcome to the Occupation
January 2nd, 2013
8:27 pm
“The libs are partying over their huge win today at doing nothing.”
Really? I don’t see any confetti.
td
January 2nd, 2013
8:27 pm
It is funny how you progressives over here do not get it. This is a two fold effort.
1: Punishment for Christie and his hugging up on Obama and giving him legitimacy when he needed it the most in the election.
2: It is the continued battle and maybe the last as to which faction will actually lead the Republican party. Will it be the old raise taxes and spend establishment led by the northern country club republicans or will it be the less government, less taxes and less spending tea party movement led by mover southern republicans.
The conservative side has had two elections in a row where the establishment said “we can only win with a moderate candidate. We must be moderates and can not put forward a true conservative agenda. Well that has not turned out to well.
The same thing happened to the Dems in 04/05 after Bush won his 2nd term and the Dems purged themselves of all the blue dogs and Clinton conservative Dems.
Thulsa Doom
January 2nd, 2013
8:27 pm
You’re all a bunch of mindless Foxbot/Rush/Hannity/Boortz listening chicken headed crackpot right wingers!
There! I feel better already.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 2nd, 2013
8:27 pm
“I was chasing the Speaker all over the House floor last night, trying to talk to him and his staff,” King said on CNN on Wednesday morning. “He kept telling me, wait until the vote is over, wait until the fiscal cliff vote is over, everything will be taken care of. And then he was gone. He refused to meet with us. He actually yelled at Congressman LoBiondo, saying, ‘I’m not meeting with you people.’”
So much for the veracity of the “it was because of pork” claim.
But then the conned have no credibility or shame. Only lies and stupidity.
Recon 0311 2533
January 2nd, 2013
8:29 pm
Fred , sure I understand that you had to run out for awhile because Jay got your makeup running and you had to pull yourself together but that ratio of tax increase to spending cuts unfortunately appears to be accurate.
barking frog
January 2nd, 2013
8:31 pm
Thulsa Doom
The University Administration was aware that Sandusky was
molesting children and continued to provide him a place to do it.
They are being punished and rather lightly. I cannot sympathize
with people who wish to benefit from their association with
child molesters or who whine about being damaged by their
association with child molesters or those that support child
molesters or their associates.
josef
January 2nd, 2013
8:31 pm
Let me weigh in here for a minute on Penn State, Sandusky and “the innocent bystanders.” The students. alumni, politicians and what have you elevated him to some near G-dly image. He was, like the infamous priests, “above reproach and suspicion.” Then when it turns out that the idol had feet of clay and was a scuzzbucket of a human being, yes, they were at fault too.
If this is, and I believe it is. a social problem, then the enabling of that society are also at blame and should be held guilty.
But. then, I don’t expect anyone to see it my way.
Thulsa Doom
January 2nd, 2013
8:32 pm
“Sure. because having passed THIS bill…they are prevented from EVER passing anything else, right?’
I expect the Dems to propose all sorts of spending cuts and elimination of duplicative and wasteful gubment programs that don’t work. Just like they did the last 4 years. KD
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
8:34 pm
If a man murdered someone 14 years ago and gets convicted of it today do we punish as a matter of routine other people for something he did- people who in no way, shape, or form were connected to the man or the murder he committed?
If his wife knew about it and washed the blood out of his clothes and lied to the police yes. If he murdered someone at work and his boss knew it and helped clean up the blood stain and lied to the police yes.
If the boss reported it to the CEO and the CEO had security come down and take the dead body and drop it off company grounds then yes.
You used a really piss poor analogy. It was reported and then covered up by folks that were STILL THERE when it came to light.
PennState should have gotten the football death penalty.
Doggone/GA
January 2nd, 2013
8:35 pm
“I expect the Dems to propose all sorts of spending cuts and elimination of duplicative and wasteful gubment programs that don’t work”
Yeah, while the GOP sits on their hands and bitches, while doing nothing.
getalife
January 2nd, 2013
8:35 pm
“I’m not meeting with you people.’
Sounds like a dictator to me.
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
8:37 pm
Recon 0311 2533
January 2nd, 2013
8:29 pm
Fred , sure I understand that you had to run out for awhile because Jay got your makeup running and you had to pull yourself together but that ratio of tax increase to spending cuts unfortunately appears to be accurate.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
You have sources to link to both your claims or only your “belief?” Because I KNOW your first one is a bunch of mindless crap……… what hope have I based on your first lie that you told the truth in the second?
barking frog
January 2nd, 2013
8:38 pm
Thulsa Doom
If a man murdered someone 14 years ago and gets convicted of it today do we punish as a matter of routine other people for something he did- people who in no way, shape, or form were connected to the man or the murder he committed?
………………………………………………………………………………………….
the innocent at Penn State are not being punished. They do not
have anchors tied to their ‘leg’ and can leave at anytime.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 2nd, 2013
8:40 pm
Well since some of the conned still don’t understand where we are today with the tax deal, 7 things you need to know
As for what is coming: <a href="https://my.barackobama.com/page/share/fiscal-cliff?utm_medium=email&utm_source=obama&utm_content=httpmybarackobamacomFiscalCliffAgreement&utm_campaign=em12_20130102_jm_nda&source=em12_20130102_jm_nda"<catch the video
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
8:42 pm
Great. Al Gore sells his TV network to Al-Jazeera so they can get their message out better. Shame TC isn’t here as we were discussing what a scumbag Gore is……..
http://news.yahoo.com/al-jazeera-buys-current-tv-al-gore-002839067–finance.html
Recon 0311 2533
January 2nd, 2013
8:42 pm
Gee Fred, most can compute that ratio but evidently you’re having some difficulty. There are remedial courses that could help you catch up. Good luck to you and Happy New Year.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 2nd, 2013
8:43 pm
$600 BILLION: The amount of new revenue raised by the deal after accounting for money saved by decreased borrowing costs. An additional approximately $130 BILLION is saved through decreased interest on the debt.
– $1.8 TRILLION: The amount of spending cuts put in place by President Obama so far, resulting in a roughly 2.5:1 ratio of programmatic spending cuts to revenue.
Fred, looks like we are getting “unskewed bullcrap” but typical conned math I guess.
TBS
January 2nd, 2013
8:43 pm
td
hhahahahahahaha
Obama was going to win NJ regardless
But keep doing what you do; fool yourself
Maybe tell us how Republicans could have won OH
Republicans were going to gain seats in the Senate and House
And how the pollsters were so far off that Romney was probably up by as many as 10pts…….
All those things sound familiar? I hope so because you posted that crap for weeks
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 2nd, 2013
8:45 pm
Let’s see. $600 billion to $1.8 Trillion. Conned math says that is 41:1?
Doggone/GA
January 2nd, 2013
8:46 pm
“Let’s see. $600 billion to $1.8 Trillion. Conned math says that is 41:1?”
Isn’t that the ratio that Romney won by?
Thulsa Doom
January 2nd, 2013
8:46 pm
josef,
That’s an interesting take. But those people were highly supportive of Joepa when there was no evidence that he had done anything wrong at the time. People rightly changed their minds about him, his culpability, and his status.
Speaking of that though I was always fascinated with the left’s admiration of Bill Clinton. I saw the 60 minutes interview of Juanita Broderick’s account of Clinton’s rape of her. The NOW women found her to be very “credible” in their words and I think most people watching that interview of her with an objective mind found her to be credible as well. And then there is Clinton’s seduction of a stargazed 22 year old, his various alleged affairs, etc.
I find myself thinking the same thing about a lot of people in this country who have an admiration for a man that at worst is a rapist and at best is a serial adulterer. I’ve seen many on here take note of Gingrich’s adultery but they are strangely silent in regards to Mr. Clinton.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 2nd, 2013
8:46 pm
Maybe tell us how Republicans could have won OH
They could’ve nominated Huntsman immediately leaps to mind.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 2nd, 2013
8:46 pm
Recon:
If the hatchet-wielders in the House of Representatives got their way, we would quickly plunge into depression.
We may do that anyway, of course, but the austerity measures advanced by the House GOP would seal our fate.
Recon 0311 2533
January 2nd, 2013
8:49 pm
1.8 trillion in spending cuts by Obama equals terminal belief in the tooth fairy. Good grief, what pathetic ignorance.
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
8:49 pm
Keep: We are getting the best of what Del could remember from Fox and friends. That’s enough for him by God it should be enough for you.
BTW, did you see where Hannity has lost at LEAST 50%of his viewership since the election? People (the ones who THINK) are mad about his lies. Del is watching double though to try and make up for it lol.
Oh well. I guess I was wrong about Doomy and he’s NOT the insurance expert. I would have sworn that he was. I guess my memory has failed me on that matter. Sorry Doomy, I got you wrong.
getalife
January 2nd, 2013
8:51 pm
The cons are not even trying to come close to the truth anymore.
Time to find a hobby and leave politics to the adults cons.
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
8:51 pm
Damn. It’s game time. Ya’ll be cool. I’ll see you when I get back next week……. or not. I’m sure someone will tell me if Jay asks me to leave or banishes me forever……….
Welcome to the Occupation
January 2nd, 2013
8:52 pm
Thulsa Doom: “I expect the Dems to propose all sorts of spending cuts and elimination of duplicative and wasteful gubment programs that don’t work”
Do you pay attention to anything?
By the time all is said and done the current president will have presided over a shrinking of government (non-defense discretionary) to a size not seen in over a half century.
So, tell me again, what are you yappin about exactly?
josef
January 2nd, 2013
8:52 pm
THULSA
The point I am rather inarticulately trying to make is that those people up to and including “the masses” enabled Sandusky (et al. imeoiauo).and, no, they are not the ones who committed the crimes and they are not the ones cooling their heels in the pokey. but, yes, they are getting what they deserve and, again just the way I see it. getting off pretty cheap.
Thulsa Doom
January 2nd, 2013
8:53 pm
“the innocent at Penn State are not being punished. They do not
have anchors tied to their ‘leg’ and can leave at anytime.”
Barking Frog,
That’s easy to say and in the case of the football players they can. Not as easy to do for students or for local businesses that depend on the business that football season brings for their livelihoods.
Elections Have Consequences
January 2nd, 2013
8:54 pm
“The “pork” argument is a smokescreen, pure and simple.”
Some non-pork, c/o of the Democratically controlled Senate:
Farm Service Agency, Emergency Conservation Program
Senate bill: $25.1 million. The Senate bill fully funds the Administration’s request and includes an additional $10.1 million.
Administration request: $15 million to rehabilitate farmland damaged by Hurricane Sandy.
Farm Service Agency, Emergency Forest Restoration Program
Senate bill: $58.9 million. The Senate bill fully funds the Administration’s request and includes an additional $35.9 million.
Administration request: $23 million to clear debris, implement emergency conservation efforts, and plant trees in an effort to restore and enhance non-industrial forestland damaged by Hurricane Sandy.
Natural Resources Conservation Service, Emergency Watershed Protection Program
Senate bill: $125 million, $54.9 million below the Administration request. The Senate bill does not include mitigation funding.
Administration request: $180 million, including $30 million for flood mitigation by cleaning stream channels, stabilizing stream banks, and repairing water control structures. $150 million was requested for mitigation of future flood risk, including purchase of floodplain easements.
Ad Nauseum. And my favorite:
National Aeronautics and Space Administration Construction and Environmental Compliance and Restoration
Senate bill: $15 million, $11 million greater than the Administration request.
Administration request: $4 million for repairs at Kennedy Space Center in Florida and Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia.
I’m disappointed, however – I fully expected to see today’s blog as an exercise in political spiking of the football, based the recent vote to raise taxes, thereby rescuing the middle class, and cutting the deficit. Perhaps tomorrow?
Brosephus™
January 2nd, 2013
8:55 pm
Keep
I was wondering if the 41:1 ratio didn’t include the previous bills that were all cuts with no revenue. Seems as this is one of those instances where the pendulum swung in both directions over a period of time. GOP got cuts in 2011 and 2012, and the Dems got revenue in 2013.
I just wish they would have left everything as it was set to expire. Then, they would have truly gotten what they wanted, and the country would have likely gone to hell as a result. When Congress has an approval rating hovering around single digit numbers while having a re-election percentage near 90%, the problem is quite easy to see. The problem doesn’t reside in DC. The problem actually votes on the people who go to DC to do this stupid crap.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
January 2nd, 2013
8:58 pm
BILL STUFFED WITH PORK…
drudgey spam.
Thulsa Doom
January 2nd, 2013
9:00 pm
josef,
I think I get what you’re saying and to a lesser degree frog also. It seems to me that your issue is with the general football culture at PSU that enabled him to get away with this for so long. I understand that but I still put the onus of the problem not on that culture but specifically on the handful of men at the top of the university who knew what was really going on and who did nothing. I think they need some serious jail time.
I’m a crazed crimson tide fan. But if I found out tomorrow that Nick Saban molested a kid I would want his ass fired and prosecuted immediately. My passion for Alabama football would not cloud my basic judgment about something as heinous as enabling a child molester. And I think most people upon knowing the full story would react the same way. At least I hope to God they would.
barking frog
January 2nd, 2013
9:00 pm
Thulsa Doom
That’s easy to say and in the case of the football players they can. Not as easy to do for students or for local businesses that depend on the business that football season brings for their livelihoods.
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The students can transfer. The local businesses flourished during the
corruption so they can suffer from the punishment if they decide to stay.
Brosephus™
January 2nd, 2013
9:01 pm
1.8 trillion in spending cuts by Obama equals terminal belief in the tooth fairy. Good grief, what pathetic ignorance.
There are some ignorant people at townhall.com then. Oh, wait a minute, that’s a right-wing site, so they’re the smartest people ever. From Apr 12, 2011:
http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2011/04/12/new_tea_party_and_boehner_alliance_triumphs_in_government_shutdown_showdown/page/full/
Some conservatives and Tea Parties are criticizing the budget deal Republicans agreed to with Democrats and the Obama administration on Friday. Should they be? It averted a government shutdown, extending funding for government through the end of the fiscal year, September 30, 2011. It is the largest spending cut in American history in terms of dollars, $38.5 billion, spending $78.5 billion less than what Obama had originally requested. It actually decreases domestic discretionary spending this year by 4%, setting it at $1.049 trillion. In previous years, domestic discretionary spending increased. It grew by 6% in 2008, 11% in 2009 and 14% in 2010. This budget deal begins to end the stimulus spending binge that began in 2009.
Brosephus™
January 2nd, 2013
9:02 pm
http://www.gop.gov/indepth/pledge/cutspending
barking frog
January 2nd, 2013
9:04 pm
Thulsa Doom
I’m a crazed crimson tide fan. But if I found out tomorrow that Nick Saban molested a kid I would want his ass fired and prosecuted immediately. My passion for Alabama football would not cloud my basic judgment about something as heinous as enabling a child molester. And I think most people upon knowing the full story would react the same way. At least I hope to God they would.
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At Penn they didn’t, not until they were discovered.
Mr Right
January 2nd, 2013
9:04 pm
What did the CBO say this bill will do to the deficit?
Brosephus™
January 2nd, 2013
9:05 pm
frog
I’ll 2nd that 9:04 post.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 2nd, 2013
9:06 pm
Brosephus, possible but they didn’t show their work and skewed their claims with intentional distortions.