Another painful step in the re-education of House GOP
Given all the drama, hand-wringing and arm-twisting involved, you might think that the legislation approved last night by the House represents an achievement of historic importance.
It does not.
Seldom has so much intrigue been committed to such small effect. The bill sidesteps the so-called “fiscal cliff,” but it does so by accomplishing little and resolving nothing. It merely means that two months from now, the same set of players will re-enact this same sad-sack spectacle, as the federal government lurches from crisis to crisis like some banana republic that is incapable of ruling itself.
Yet as painful and as ugly as the process might be, it is also sadly necessary. The mental, emotional and political recalibration required when unrealistic ideology finally runs head on into reality does not happen quickly or easily. It is, as they say, a process rather than an event, and in this case the process will be drawn out, public and politically bloody.
Even after this latest defeat, congressional Republicans continue to tell themselves that in the next confrontation, this time over the debt-limit ceiling, they will finally have “leverage” they need over President Obama and Senate Democrats. They seem to believe that by threatening to push the country into default on its debt — a step with economy-wrecking consequences likely to last a generation — they will be able to rally the American people to their cause.
I don’t believe things works like that. To the contrary, the strategy reeks of desperation. In a poll taken last month by CNN, 53 percent of Americans already said that they consider the policies of the GOP to be too extreme. That’s an extraordinarily high number — just 37 percent said the same about Democrats, for example. It’s also telling that in 2010, before Republicans won control of the House, just 36 percent of Americans considered the party’s policies too extreme.
The last two years, in other words, have proved disastrous for the party’s reputation, particularly among moderates and independents. They are no longer deemed responsible by a growing number of American citizens. In such a political setting, holding a pistol to the temple of the U.S. economy and threatening to pull the trigger unless you get your way would seem a less-than-sterling means of winning friends and influencing people.
– Jay Bookman
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DebbieDoRight - Conned And Confused
January 2nd, 2013
11:17 am
. In a poll taken last month by CNN, 53 percent of Americans already said that they consider the policies of the GOP to be too extreme. That’s an extraordinarily high number — just 37 percent said the same about Democrats, for example. It’s also telling that in 2010, before Republicans won control of the House, just 36 percent of Americans considered the party’s policies too extreme.
Uh Uh. That is SO not true ’cause this morning on LimpBalls HE said that 65% of the republic is FOR the republican party! that demographic they’re citing is skewered towards democrats.
Why, if you asked more republicans, then LimpBalls would be right. Let me find all the RIGHT demographics on Brietbart.com or RightWing Pundit or ConnedRUs.com and that’ll show you!
You guys, with your numbers and your facts are REALLY getting on my nerves! Facts? We don’t need no stinking facts! We’ve got the 2nd Ammendment! that’s all the facts we need!
Mr. Facts Meet Mr Smith & Wesson
Protect your public schools!! Armed the Janitors and the Lunch Lady!!!
Towncrier
January 2nd, 2013
11:17 am
“But what does that say about the GOP when they get their butts kicked twice in a national election by a lightweight doofus?”
It suggests to me that GWB had a deleterious affect on the fortunes of the GOP – mianly because of the wars and lack of fiscal responsibility (though I still to this day have a hard imagining how Gore or Kerry would have been much better). The main problem is we don’t have any George Washington’s running for office.
Laquisha
January 2nd, 2013
11:17 am
The additional taxes on the “rich” will be a mere symbolic drop in the bucket. And they’ve once again deferred action on deficit spending for 60 days – which probably means never. It is very discouraging.
DannyX
January 2nd, 2013
11:17 am
“or the other 85 House GOPpers that voted for it”
Including Paul Ryan who also played kick the can.
williebkind
January 2nd, 2013
11:18 am
Ok you progressive liberals won again.
I pay more taxes on soc sec.
I pay more taxes on healthcare.
I pay more taxes on income thru loss of deductions.
Yep my pathetic check is really pathetic now and I owe to all you progressive liberals who took my money and gave it to people who want find a job–extending the unemployment benefits.
Yep the American people should just shout with joy of how well you are doing.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 2nd, 2013
11:18 am
Jay,
Predictably, you assign blame to the GOP’s dysfunction, which appears to be your reason for all the ills in the world politic, instead of taking a view remotely above the weeds. We all know the GOP is in shameless shambles…this is a given. However, ignoring the leadership vacuum from WH on down the line is suspect. The GOP are not solely responsible for all that is dysfunction in DC. We have president who wants to continue to play small ball which is cowed to by congress…his entire agenda was to get a less than 100 billion in annual additional revenues and he appears to want nothing to do with responsible spending intiatives.
Small ball…are you BO supporters really satisfied with that…at least those who do a bit more than reciting DEM party talking points?
DebbieDoRight - Conned And Confused
January 2nd, 2013
11:19 am
It suggests to me that GWB had a deleterious affect on the fortunes of the GOP – mianly because of the wars and lack of fiscal responsibility (though I still to this day have a hard imagining how Gore or Kerry would have been much better).
Are you suggesting that its Bush’s Fault? What are you? A Marxist Sympathizer!
fedup
January 2nd, 2013
11:19 am
td: “Oh yes, increasing taxes on 77% of the population and increasing the debt by an additional $4 trillion over the next 10 years….”
Didn’t Bush say when he cut taxes that we will have surplus and job growth? You folks don’t know how to predict things right do you.
RB from Gwinnett
January 2nd, 2013
11:20 am
“But what does that say about the GOP when they get their butts kicked twice in a national election by a lightweight doofus?”
Hey, I guess when you give fat kids a choice between some exercise and a cookie, they choose the cookie.
Enjoy your cookie.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 2nd, 2013
11:20 am
“it’s also essential we start a discussion on population control.”
Tough to do, when the republicans don’t even want insurance companies to cover it.”
everytime we TRY to, we get “but … but … but … mah reeeligious convictions tell me that Ah shouldn’t have to PAY fer YER sinnin’”
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 2nd, 2013
11:21 am
“Hey, I guess when you give fat kids a choice between some exercise and a cookie, they choose the cookie.”
baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha …
yeah, your guy was SUCH an intellectual heavyweight!!!
ohsweetjeebus, you keep clinging to that thought – I’m sure it’ll keep you warm at night.
Victor Midtown
January 2nd, 2013
11:21 am
Jay … read your own newspaper (or the webpage): “Fiscal cliff deal leaves many in Atlanta angry.” There is a stark realization spreading that we are really at the cliff’s edge and taxing the “rich” isn’t going to be enough.
RF
January 2nd, 2013
11:21 am
RB- that “somebody else” is in part ME as a taxpayer, and yes I DO care who pays the bill. I also care about rampant, unchecked military spending while we have senior citizens who deserve a decent standard of living and medical care. I care about the fact that I teach kids who can’t get decent medical care or dental care, many of whom need glasses but their parents can’t afford them because the only jobs out there are part-time and don’t have benefits. I care about the fact that hard-working people are putting in 40+ hours a week for little or no benefits and we think they don’t deserve some kind of decent medical care. You should spend some time with those people instead of sitting here judging them.
I don’t want cookies, but I do want, and will work as hard as I can to get, a country that makes sure we all have the same opportunities, and that those with all the “cookies” get to deny even a crumb to the hungry and hardworking.
Keep shoveling the crap rhetoric. Less and less of the population of this country are believing it.
mm
January 2nd, 2013
11:22 am
“Keep taking from the “makers” to give to the “takers” and soon the well will run dry.”
Jay, anyone using this BS talking “point” should be banned for a week.
Jackie
January 2nd, 2013
11:22 am
Good news for the economy.
http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/01/02/jobs-unemployment-2013/?hpt=hp_t3
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 2nd, 2013
11:22 am
williebkind
January 2nd, 2013
11:18 am
Now how dare you table such nonesense:-) One thing the think not DEMS did achieve is that any cuts (not likely to really happen) will be negotiated in new realm…they got the ceremonial tax cash from what they describe as evil rich.
The over-riding issue is lack of courage on both sides and WH to be truthful of our economic realities with realistic subjectivities..ie we can’t sustain current spending and taxing the rich is needed but a mere drop in a bucket of already spent money..
Towncrier
January 2nd, 2013
11:22 am
” And, since 40% of children born in America today are born to parents on Medicaid, it’s also essential we start a discussion on population control.”
So…no restrictions on abortion? How about adding infanticide to the mix? Surely we don’t want to be in the position of telling (or even suggesting to) people what they do in their bedroom (or car, motel room, unsanitized meat truck and so on). Free and casual “love” is cool and funny – just watch shows like Two and a Half Men and How I Met Your Mother; you’ll see.
Regnad Kcin
January 2nd, 2013
11:23 am
“But what does that say about the GOP when they get their butts kicked twice in a national election by a lightweight doofus?”
Hey, I guess when you give fat kids a choice between some exercise and a cookie, they choose the cookie.
==================
When you can’t argue facts, make up an unrelated metaphor. Sure beats dealing with facts – they might not echo what’s going on in your head. You wouldn’t want that.
Mick
January 2nd, 2013
11:24 am
rb
Your whole life is consumed by the this debt garbage.
Your an overweight fool from all the cookies you consumed on the gov’t credit card, but now you don’t want to pay the bill!
Too easy to blame obama, that’s your default and it’s a loser.
More people with jobs will be paying taxes, that’s where we need to get.
Your ideology is a big fail, stop drowning in it and save yourself…
getalife
January 2nd, 2013
11:24 am
The American people won.
They wanted them to work together and pass taxes on the wealthy.
Done.
Move on..
DannyX
January 2nd, 2013
11:24 am
“Free and casual “love” is cool and funny – just watch shows like Two and a Half Men and How I Met Your Mother; you’ll see.”
You can also watch Bristol Palin’s reality show.
Brosephus™
January 2nd, 2013
11:25 am
It suggests to me that GWB had a deleterious affect on the fortunes of the GOP – mianly because of the wars and lack of fiscal responsibility
Then how would you explain the 2010 midterm elections both on the federal and state level and the 2012 elections where the GOP won more on state levels? I think 2008 had a bit to do with GWB, but the 2012 election was all on the GOP not fielding a candidate that people could get behind.
RB from Gwinnett
January 2nd, 2013
11:25 am
RF, “RB- that “somebody else” is in part ME as a taxpayer, and yes I DO care who pays the bill.”
I call BS on you, dude. You just got through posting how happy you were those evil rich people got hosed and that’s what they deserve.
Pretty damn disgusting, RF.
Adam
January 2nd, 2013
11:26 am
Ok you progressive liberals won again.
Damn right!
You TAKE it. You take it and you LIKE it.
Towncrier
January 2nd, 2013
11:26 am
So, Jay, is bad blogging behavior here to you like pornography – you know it when you see it? And, if so, do you think all laws or rules aught to be that way (like you know speeding or committing perjury in court when you see it)?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 2nd, 2013
11:27 am
“You can also watch Bristol Palin’s reality show.”
heh.
williebkind
January 2nd, 2013
11:27 am
“it’s also essential we start a discussion on population control.”
Tough to do, when the republicans don’t even want insurance companies to cover it.”
I did not know the insurance companies cover immigration, wow, you progressive liberals are so informed. However ga population is decreasing. As long as the economy is sluggish the liberals will not come to ga–happy happy.
Adam
January 2nd, 2013
11:27 am
Towncrier: Jay has banned Dave R permanently, Fred temporarily, and others who were short lived.
He has also removed a few of my own post in which I was “uncivil” or one in which I laughed at a video game that made Fox News personalities into zombies for you to kill.
Brosephus™
January 2nd, 2013
11:27 am
Hey, I guess when you give fat kids a choice between some exercise and a cookie, they choose the cookie.
Enjoy your cookie.
Well, it seems that the GOP is offering Jazzercize when they should be offering CrossFit or MMA training. Most kids, even the fat ones, have no problem with whoop ass training. The GOP, on the other hand, seems to be stuck in the past.
No thanks on the cookie. I’d much rather eat fruit.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 2nd, 2013
11:28 am
mm
January 2nd, 2013
11:22 am
How about a more polite version. The top taxpayers pay for 80% of government spending of which most is characterized of entitlement programs. For anyone to submit that there is much more left in this well is symptom of sheepish, herd mentality…when we get to a point where a material number of workers not only don’t pay, but get money back every year…not to mention to growth of this particular phenomenon, we are in a pickle.
DannyX
January 2nd, 2013
11:28 am
“So, Jay, is bad blogging behavior here to you like pornography…”
Towncrier, rb may be very angry but that is no reason to ban him.
Adam
January 2nd, 2013
11:28 am
RB is freaking out. This can only mean one thing:
Good things are happening in America!
Regnad Kcin
January 2nd, 2013
11:28 am
“So, Jay, is bad blogging behavior here to you like pornography – you know it when you see it? And, if so, do you think all laws or rules aught to be that way (like you know speeding or committing perjury in court when you see it)?”
TC – if you have a point, you should just come out with it, instead of trying to bait Jay into some kind of semantic trap.
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
11:29 am
Jay wrote: “The last two years, in other words, have proved disastrous for the party’s reputation, particularly among moderates and independents.”
The sad truth is though Jay that thanks to the blowhards on talk radio the hard core fanatics don’t believe in an independent or moderate. Moderates who still put up with the Republican abuse to remain moderate are disparagingly and snidely called “RINO’s” and told to leave the party and anyone else is a “librul socialist.”
These nutcases have so much lost touch with reality that they equate my independence with Keeps or Kam’s far right views. Both of them are far to the left of my “philosophy” yet how often am I called a “librul” or a “socialist?”
It’s just plain crazy. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, it scares the hell out of me when the Democrats come across as the party of sanity…………. but compared to today’s Republicans they are.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 2nd, 2013
11:29 am
Adam – 11:28 –
Regnad Kcin
January 2nd, 2013
11:30 am
“it’s also essential we start a discussion on population control.”
Like Logan’s Run?
Towncrier
January 2nd, 2013
11:30 am
“Then how would you explain the 2010 midterm elections both on the federal and state level and the 2012 elections where the GOP won more on state levels?”
The Tea Party’s influence upon regional (as is Congressional districts) – rather than national – races. We are still paying out of our pockets for GWB’s fiscal irresponsibility (yes, the economic cost of war should be strongly considered before embarking upon it).
mm
January 2nd, 2013
11:30 am
Wingnut dysfunction at it’s best:
New York Republican Rep. Peter King went to war with his Republican colleagues on Wednesday after leaders spiked a Hurricane Sandy relief bill, calling on New Yorkers to stop all donations to GOP House members.
“These Republicans have no problem finding New York when they’re out raising millions of dollars,” King said on Fox News. “They’re in New York all the time filling their pockets with money from New Yorkers. I’m saying right now, anyone from New York or New Jersey who contributes one penny to congressional Republicans is out of their minds. Because what they did last night was put a knife in the back of New Yorkers and New Jerseyans. It was an absolute disgrace.”
King also said he was ready to buck Republican leaders on every issue until the Sandy aid is approved.
“As far as I’m concerned, I’m on my own,” King said. “They’re going to have to go a long way to get my vote on anything.”
getalife
January 2nd, 2013
11:31 am
BTW, your middle class tax cut is permanent so taxes are done.
king attacked the gop for not passing disaster relief so his State.
He said don’t donate to the gop until they pass it.
DannyX
January 2nd, 2013
11:31 am
“when we get to a point where a material number of workers not only don’t pay, but get money back every year…”
President Ronald Reagan called that “the best anti-poverty, the best pro-family, the best job creation measure to come out of Congress.”
MANGLER
January 2nd, 2013
11:32 am
Anyone else noticing that Congress has created a situation where the Nation and the World expect so little from them that doing anything, even simply waking up in the morning, stirs the stock markets? Perhaps that’s part of the plan? Make ‘em expect the world to implode, and when it merely cracks a little, celebrate a victory!
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
11:32 am
RB from Gwinnett
January 2nd, 2013
11:20 am
“But what does that say about the GOP when they get their butts kicked twice in a national election by a lightweight doofus?”
Hey, I guess when you give fat kids a choice between some exercise and a cookie, they choose the cookie.
Enjoy your cookie.
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Enjoy your ass whoopin. And since you refuse to learn from it, be prepared to keep enjoying ass whoopin’s. The Americans have waken up and rejected your talk radio FOXBOT fear mongering and lies. You should wise up and do the same.
But but but……. GREECE
Joe Hussein Mama
January 2nd, 2013
11:34 am
Towncrier — “It suggests to me that GWB had a deleterious affect on the fortunes of the GOP – mianly because of the wars and lack of fiscal responsibility (though I still to this day have a hard imagining how Gore or Kerry would have been much better).”
I seriously doubt that President Gore would have gotten us involved in Iraq.
At all.
RB from Gwinnett
January 2nd, 2013
11:34 am
RF, ” care about the fact that I teach kids who can’t get decent medical care or dental care, many of whom need glasses but their parents can’t afford them because the only jobs out there are part-time and don’t have benefits. I care about the fact that hard-working people are putting in 40+ hours a week for little or no benefits and we think they don’t deserve some kind of decent medical care. You should spend some time with those people instead of sitting here judging them.”
You’re a lying sack, RF. Those kids have access to Peach Care paid for by my tax dollars. Already, today, RF. No Obamacare required. If you don’t already know that, get out of the teaching profession because you’re not smart enough to be around our children.
Redcoat
January 2nd, 2013
11:35 am
So what are we trying to accomplish now…….?
DebbieDoRight - Conned And Confused
January 2nd, 2013
11:35 am
They don’t care about bringing the population around to their positions. They believe they are the ones doing the “educating”.
Well duh! You people don’t get it do you? We’ll say what it takes to get elected. We’ll kiss your ugly babies, shake hands with blacks, hispanics, and even some A-Rabs; but when we get into office we’re gonna do exactly what we want to do!
We not only pushed forward bogus “Workers Rights” legislation, something that we didn’t campaign on cause we’re not stoopid , to break up the unions.
We’ve pushed forward Fetus rights and Trampy women have no rights legislation; even though we campaigned on “We will uphold the law of the land” and “Jobs, jobs, jobs”.
We’ve taken out ALL accountability or weakened them in some cases, (we’ll work on getting rid of them next month), with your so called “watch dog groups!” ha!
We’ve miracalously, in 1 year, gotten rid of $1m+ debt working a job that pays $250K a year! Yet we can’t balance the state’s budget! (I’m talking about you Nathan Deal)
We’ve done all that and even without gerrymandering, we’ll get voted back into office!
So what do we have to fear? The populace? HA! These are the people who put us INTO office in the first place!
Resistance is futile. You will submit!
Safe a public schools!! Arm the crazy steroid hyped Football Players!!
Reality Check
January 2nd, 2013
11:35 am
I’m a conservative that realizes there must be some tax increases, but also sees that if we don’t curb our spending, all the taxes in the world will not help. For that, you guys label me a “wing-nut”, “extremist”, “radical”.
No, I’m a realist who has to live day to day with a balanced budget. I’m a realist who is mature enough to see that if I don’t control my spending I will put myself and my family in jeapardy. And I am smart enough and honest enough to see that what the liberals are “glowing about” is going to be, in the long term, bad for our country.
But hey, if things go south, the liberal machine will just continue to blame me and other conservatives no matter what and will never meet us in the middle. As Obama has so expertly done and continues to do – he speaks words of “fairness” and “joint sacrifice”, but then his actions and those of the liberals is hardly either.
Unfortunately, time will tell……
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
January 2nd, 2013
11:35 am
As temporary measures due to expire in 10 years or less and thus no permanent impact on the debt – Jay @ 10:47
That made me laugh. Lawmakers logic that the debt incurred as a result of temporary tax rate cuts during those 10 years has “no permanent impact on the debt”. I believe I have seen posted on this blog a chart that shows the percentage of total debt the Bush tax cuts is relative to total debt. Debt that will still live long past our expiration.
F. Sinkwich
January 2nd, 2013
11:36 am
“In a poll taken last month by CNN, 53 percent of Americans already said that they consider the policies of the GOP to be too extreme.”
Yep, that’s where we are.
Who would have ever thought that in America advocating individual liberty, fiscal responsibility, and free market capitalism would be considered “extreme?”
We now live in a society thanks to O’bozo, the MSM, and like minded morons, many of whom frequent this blog, the majority of this country now prefers “free” stuff over having to actually expend some effort to attain it.
RIP USA 1776-2012
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
11:36 am
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
January 2nd, 2013
11:28 am
mm
January 2nd, 2013
11:22 am
How about a more polite version. The top taxpayers pay for 80% of government spending of which most is characterized of entitlement programs. For anyone to submit that there is much more left in this well is symptom of sheepish, herd mentality…when we get to a point where a material number of workers not only don’t pay, but get money back every year…not to mention to growth of this particular phenomenon, we are in a pickle.
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Actually anyone who would tell buy that stupid 80% percent Rush Limbaugh/FOXBOT mantra is the real sheep. I’ve done the math for you before so for you to keep chanting this crap is not only disingenuous but down right embarrassing.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
January 2nd, 2013
11:36 am
Mick
January 2nd, 2013
11:24 am
OK, you got your big wish…taxing the wealthy more…now whats the rest of your grand plan to address the other 90%+ of the problem? Surely doesn’t seem to be telling the country the truth about actual unemployment, the impact on taxpayers of increased healthcare costs that were and are being downplayed as addressed by a flawed law, our ability to truly NOT be impacted by annual deficits nearing 50% of total spending, or the idea given to the public that no amount of debt is relevant?
Whats the rest of the plan? You really believe all is well and the needed sacrifices will be made to right the ship? We should cut spending on defense materially. We need to be realistic (as opposed to igonorant and scaremongering) about entitlement reform. We need realistic assumptions to make meaningful decisions…we get nothing.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 2nd, 2013
11:37 am
Towncrier — “Free and casual “love” is cool and funny – just watch shows like Two and a Half Men and How I Met Your Mother; you’ll see.”
Mr. Quayle?
Mister Vice-President, is that you?
RB from Gwinnett
January 2nd, 2013
11:37 am
“RB is freaking out. This can only mean one thing:
Good things are happening in America!”
Another poster too stupid to know the cookies are making him fat. Enjoy the cookie!!!
Brosephus™
January 2nd, 2013
11:38 am
The Tea Party’s influence upon regional (as is Congressional districts) – rather than national – races.
I think that would accurately explain 2010, but would not cover 2012 as the Tea Party was pretty much silent this past election.
Jackie
January 2nd, 2013
11:39 am
@Sinkwich
You keep saying the government is “giving away free stuff.” Please give a list of what is free and how would one obtain these items.
getalife
January 2nd, 2013
11:39 am
The compromise is a win for the American people.
It is what they voted for.
Unemployment was extended and some other good stuff in the bill.
I am guessing mcconnell is retiring for daring to finally work with our President.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 2nd, 2013
11:39 am
“Those kids have access to Peach Care paid for by my tax dollars.”
ohfercryingoutLOUD … Peach Care isn’t for all working poor – just for people below a certain income. Make $100 more and you’re dropped. With Obamacare, you don’t have to worry about an income threshold.
Regnad Kcin
January 2nd, 2013
11:39 am
“RIP USA 1776-2012″
So, Sinky…do you feel that we are now in the Zombie States of America, seeing as how you feel the country died last year? The nation looks and acts as if it’s alive – what’s your explanantion for this phenomenon?
RF
January 2nd, 2013
11:39 am
“I call BS on you, dude. You just got through posting how happy you were those evil rich people got hosed and that’s what they deserve.”
Quit being a jerk and read what I posted earlier. I didn’t say that and you know it, and I refuse to be baited by your ignorance. How do you guys live being so bitter and angry all the time?
“You’re a lying sack, RF. Those kids have access to Peach Care paid for by my tax dollars.”
Actually, those that do have access find the benefits are limited. Many do not qualify, and I’d urge you to study Peachcare benefits carefully before you spout off. Where does your authority on the program come from, pray tell?
Keep up the namecalling. It’s interesting to watch the neocon meltdown and you never fail to lower yourself to the occasion. I enjoy watching the spittle spewing.
Out for now. Got a doctor’s appointment.
DannyX
January 2nd, 2013
11:39 am
“it’s also essential we start a discussion on population control.”
An article from ajc.com today explained a new Republican population control method that worked real well.
“The country’s birth rate dropped 8 percent between 2007 and 2010 and now stands at 1920-era levels, a Pew Research Center report has found.”
They blame the drop on the Bush Great Recession. Good job Republicans. Just create a major recession, no need for evil birth control.
Krystal'sBalls
January 2nd, 2013
11:40 am
This is what happens when you become so obsessed with kicking the President in the “jewels”, that you can’t see straight.
“Chess met Checkers”
Boy, this “community organizer” sure knows how to kick some political ass. Been saying it for a while
now.
Aquagirl
January 2nd, 2013
11:40 am
You’re a lying sack, RF. Those kids have access to Peach Care paid for by my tax dollars.
But…but….$5 BIRF CONTROL PILLZ!!!!!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 2nd, 2013
11:40 am
“Another poster too stupid to know the cookies are making him fat. Enjoy the cookie!!!”
aw, bless … RB seems to be in the midst of some kind of cookie-induced “episode”
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
11:40 am
Who would have ever thought that in America advocating individual liberty, fiscal responsibility, and free market capitalism would be considered “extreme?”
Please Sinkie, regale me, educate me, SHOW ME WHEN IN OUR HISTORY THE US HAS EVER HAD FREE MARKET CAPITOLISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RB from Gwinnett
January 2nd, 2013
11:41 am
Hey Fred, Greece didn’t become the joke they’ve become on purpose either, dude. They got there one silly spending bill their people refused to pay for at a time, too.
Keep laughing over your cookie, Fred. I realize it’s the same path Greece went down, but It’ll probably take us somewhere different, right!!
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
11:41 am
Damn, I start shouting and I can’t spell lol.
GT
January 2nd, 2013
11:41 am
I noticed Obama’s language on this has changed. He is now saying the Congress is responsible for paying the bills, already, voted on by the Congress, making it the obligation and order of the land. He says this is their mess they need to clean it up. I think O is setting his argument for executive authority to pay these bills by executive unilateral authority to protect the nation and its good name and he has this authority by the Congress voting on these expenses and that the Congress has no constitutional right to now not pay them. I think it will hold up in court and will put this debate on a more sane ground, won’t that be boring for the networks.
moonbat betty
January 2nd, 2013
11:42 am
This amazing feat should certainly qualify Obama for another Nobel.
He’s off to a great 2013….
in Hawaii.
stands for decibels
January 2nd, 2013
11:42 am
Those kids have access to Peach Care paid for by my tax dollars.
And paid for by those kids’ parents through the monthly premiums that they pay, IF those parents qualify.
(Funny you left that part out.)
Brosephus™
January 2nd, 2013
11:42 am
Hey Fred
Any idea on which talking head used the cookie metaphor??? Seems like somebody has it stuck on the brain.
mm
January 2nd, 2013
11:43 am
Cut the damned defense budget. It eats up 60 cents of every tax dollar.
DannyX
January 2nd, 2013
11:43 am
Waiting for Sinkwich to change the RIP date is better than watching the annual peach drop.
Come on F., update your annual RIP date! Its 2013.
guy
January 2nd, 2013
11:43 am
Regnad Kcin, The whole Congress and obama are responsible for this. People can call out others on each side of the fence on their responses but that won’t change a thing. Use that sarcasm and anger toward those who are supposed to be our competent elected officials.
Adam
January 2nd, 2013
11:43 am
BTW, your middle class tax cut is permanent so taxes are done.
The OBAMA TAX CUTS!
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
January 2nd, 2013
11:44 am
“Another poster too stupid to know the cookies are making him fat. Enjoy the cookie!!!”
Cookies probably used high fructose corn syrup as sweetener in the recipe.
guy
January 2nd, 2013
11:44 am
mm, YESS!!!!!
stands for decibels
January 2nd, 2013
11:44 am
We’re all going to become Greek cookies, I hear.
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
11:44 am
RB from Gwinnett
January 2nd, 2013
11:41 am
Hey Fred, Greece didn’t become the joke they’ve become on purpose either, dude. They got there one silly spending bill their people refused to pay for at a time, too.
Keep laughing over your cookie, Fred. I realize it’s the same path Greece went down, but It’ll probably take us somewhere different, right!!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Are you really THAT stupid RB? GREECE HAS BEEN AN INSIGNIFICANT 3RD WORLD COUNTRY FOR MORE THAN 2000 YEARS.
So please tell me how a Country who’s main industry has been Sheep sht for 2000 years is comparable to the US? Oh wait, it’s because Rush Limbaugh says so I get it.
Freaking mindless slogan repeating puppets. AND THEY CAN VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!! Worse than that they can reproduce and pass on that dumb ass gene……..
Joe Hussein Mama
January 2nd, 2013
11:45 am
RB — “Another poster too stupid to know the cookies are making him fat. Enjoy the cookie!!!”
Given that we’ve been ‘eating the cookies’ for at least the last 30+ years due to the massive deficit spending and borrowing we’ve been engaging in (by BOTH Republicans and Democrats), I can only assume that your Alarm Clock of Indignance was set for 1981 and you mistakenly didn’t turn the alarm button to ON.
Towncrier
January 2nd, 2013
11:45 am
“TC – if you have a point, you should just come out with it, instead of trying to bait Jay into some kind of semantic trap.”
Over the Christmas holiday, I witnessed a lot of mean-spirited personal attacks upon individual bloggers. That is a huge problem with this blog. I myself have been guilty of impugning people’s intelligence plenty of times. I don’t want to be that person. I think we may call what someone does or says dumb (as we all do dumb things), but to call a person him or herself dumb is just wrong. That’s truly an attack upon the person. I know why I have done it in the past – for two reasons: 1) I really dislike some aspects of liberal ideology and that dislike gets transferred to people 2) in response to being attacked or respondents being willfully frivolous.
But it doesn’t stop there. People here make all kinds of sexual innuendos about individual posters, claim they are racist or bigoted when they are not, and attack them on other things then their intelligence. It is very ugly sometimes. Speech on a blog like this is not Constitutionally protected, so there ought to be some clear guidelines regarding some behavior (as there is in a nice restaurant). The reason I blog here is mainly because it is local.
That is my point. I was trying to bait a clear response from Jay, not catch him (as you suppose) in some kind of “semantic trap”.
Adam
January 2nd, 2013
11:45 am
F. Sinkwich: Who would have ever thought that in America advocating individual liberty, fiscal responsibility, and free market capitalism would be considered “extreme?”
It isn’t. But the GOP doesn’t ACTUALLY support any of that, which is part of why they are considered extreme.
zeke
January 2nd, 2013
11:46 am
Moderates and independents are useless cowards! No ideals, no backbone, no integrity! The ONLY WAY TO SAVE THIS COUNTRY IS A COMPLETE CONSERVATIVE TAKEOVER!
getalife
January 2nd, 2013
11:46 am
The big spending cuts they are fighting about is only 100 billion.
Markets are happy today.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 2nd, 2013
11:46 am
“We’re all going to become Greek cookies, I hear.”
mmmmm … I hope it’s those crescent-shaped almond ones …
or baklava …
Aquagirl
January 2nd, 2013
11:46 am
Are cookies covered under PeachCare? Is that what RB is screaming about?
stands for decibels
January 2nd, 2013
11:46 am
Oh wait, it’s because Rush Limbaugh says so I get it.
To be fair, the GOP’s Presidential candidate actually said so as well, on national TV.
(and they wonder why we think they’ve gone a bit loony of late.)
Adam
January 2nd, 2013
11:47 am
RB: Another poster too stupid to know the cookies are making him fat. Enjoy the cookie!!!
I forgot to mention earlier that your analogy was bullsh*t.
Keep trying though. Might be tough to catch up since you still live in the bubble.
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
11:47 am
Brocephus: I’ve heard Sean, Neal, and Herman say it. I dont’ know if Rush has as I can’t listen to him, he is WAY too stupid for me. Hell, I thought he was dumber than dog squeeze when I WAS a far right wing fanatical nutcase lol.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
January 2nd, 2013
11:47 am
“Are you really THAT stupid RB? ”
yes.
this has been another edition of simple answers to simple questions.
Jackie
January 2nd, 2013
11:47 am
Research has shown that Greece became bankrupt because they failed to collect taxes because of massive tax avoidance schemes that would pay for the services demanded by the citizens.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9334170/How-Greece-has-got-itself-in-this-mess.html
stands for decibels
January 2nd, 2013
11:47 am
or baklava …
not to be mistaken for falafal, or loofah.
DebbieDoRight - Conned And Confused
January 2nd, 2013
11:47 am
one in which I laughed at a video game that made Fox News personalities into zombies for you to kill.
Could i have that link? Just for educational purposes only.
Save a public school!! Arm the over worked under paid teachers; right after you’ve voted to NOT give them a raise, (but voted yourselves a 50% raise)!!!
Fred ™
January 2nd, 2013
11:48 am
Is that ADAM? I heard he died……….
paulo977
January 2nd, 2013
11:48 am
Jay “The mental, emotional and political recalibration required when unrealistic ideology finally runs head on into reality does not happen quickly or easily. It is, as they say, a process rather than an event”
________________________________________________________________
Well said …but if it is any comfort let me quote …
“It is good to have an end to journey toward;
but it is the journey that
matters ,in the end.” !!!!!!!!!
Ursula K. Le Guin
getalife
January 2nd, 2013
11:48 am
moonbat,
To the victor goes the spoils.
Don’t let your ODS get the better of you moonbat.
DannyX
January 2nd, 2013
11:49 am
The Greek stock market was up 33% in 2012, the biggest increase in Europe.
I believe those cookies can be found in Greek markets.
Jay
January 2nd, 2013
11:49 am
Republicans complaining about the payroll tax hike? Really? That tax reduction was always supposed to be temporary, and personally, I’m happy that it was ended.
But after all the conservative complaints about the 47 percent not paying their fair share, they suddenly become champions of that 47 percent?
After all the talk about entitlements such as Medicare and Social Security being unsustainable, they want to make those programs even LESS sustainable by cutting the taxes that support them?
Most important, Washington Republicans wanted the payroll tax cut to end. They fought the cut in the first place, and have been fighting to end it ever since it passed.
getalife
January 2nd, 2013
11:49 am
zeke,
We are saving our country by ignoring you cons.
stands for decibels
January 2nd, 2013
11:50 am
Speech on a blog like this is not Constitutionally protected, so there ought to be some clear guidelines regarding some behavior
I can tell you that Jay has a very low tolerance for any kind of slight directed at people’s family members, even when clearly posted in jest. (I’m fine with that, even thought it’s meant some of my stuff has been yanked as a result.)
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
January 2nd, 2013
11:50 am
Hey CONS this is just a late payment for Bushies unfunded debacles..Losers….