With New Year, a chance to dump ‘negative waves’

In cultures around the world, the arrival of a new year means more than the mere changing of the calendar. It is a time of cleansing and renewal, an opportunity to set past disappointments aside and to look ahead with optimism.

But let’s be honest: These are not the easiest of times in which to set aside fear in favor of optimism.

The financial meltdown of four or five years ago lingers like a hangover from a holiday party that went on much too long. The economy continues its slow recovery; Georgia’s unemployment rate last month was 8.5 percent, down a full percentage point from a year earlier and down almost two full percentage points from 2010. But it is sign of diminished expectations when a statewide jobless rate of 8.5 percent is considered evidence of progress.

And as too many of our fellow Americans know, those cold, impersonal numbers hide deep personal pain, loss and frustration. The American dream and its inherent promise that hard work will be rewarded no longer seem plausible for many, particularly the young. Only the foolish would try to deny that profound, unsettling changes are under way, and for one of the few times in our nation’s history, parents have cause to wonder whether their children and grandchildren will live in a world of reduced opportunity.

On the other hand, anger and disappointment can become self-fulfilling prophecies if indulged too long, and a backward-looking fixation on what used to be will blind you to what can be. That is as true for nations as it is for individuals. Previous generations of Americans faced times much more challenging than these and overcame them, and there is no reason to believe that we are not their legitimate and equally capable heirs.

At the moment, though, such context seems in short supply. In a new Washington Post/ABC News poll, just 40 percent of Americans describe themselves as hopeful about the course of world events in the coming year, while 56 percent described themselves as fearful. Unfortunately, a good part of that dismal showing can be explained as the aftermath of a deeply divisive, hard-fought election campaign that both political parties treated as a life-and-death struggle.

According to the Post poll, just 18 percent of Republicans report that they are hopeful about the course of world events in 2013, compared to 38 percent of independents and 61 percent of Democrats; 72 percent of Republicans describe themselves as fearful about what the next year will bring.

In the political world, such numbers have a way of compounding themselves. As Ronald Reagan knew better than anyone, and as the Democrats learned from Reagan the hard way, a party animated by the belief that this is a country in decline will find it difficult to rally others to its cause, creating a spiral that is hard to reverse.

It’s also important to remember that people of all political persuasions tend to exaggerate the importance of government and who runs it. Except in times of war, and at moments of economic crisis such as that of 2008-2009, government actually plays a relatively small role in the course of human events. At times we like to believe otherwise; we like to believe that acting through government, we exert direct control our own fate, but most of the that time, that simply isn’t true.

Faith in ourselves, each other and our country — or the lack of it — is far more important.



– Jay Bookman

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DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 31st, 2012
3:42 pm

I was thinking of going all Letterman and listing the 10 dumbest GOP moments of 2012, but paring down the list to just 10 would be a lot of work!

Hey! I’ve already done that!! I called it the Top 10 PUNKED GOP Moments of 2012!

Copycat!

getalife

December 31st, 2012
3:42 pm

“Does anyone else feel that some of the Conned are just a weee bit touched in the head?”

They snapped with no credibility and we are marginalizing them..

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
3:43 pm

the score is now 7-7. According to the Republicans that means Romney is winning and Obama is Messiah………….

To the rest of us it means the score is tied with 29 seconds left in the half.

Nunna Yobinnes

December 31st, 2012
3:43 pm

I aint JamVet, but I reckon she better git it checked out.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 31st, 2012
3:45 pm

I’m wondering how she fell and why there was no one there to help her. Something doesn’t smell right. Doesn’t she have a small detail?

Hey if Dumbya can pass out for a minute while eating a pretzel and everyone bought that…………well……….!!!

Wink, wink………. :wink:

Common Sense isn't very Common

December 31st, 2012
3:45 pm

OH Hell

It got warm enough to snow again LOL

:-)

td

December 31st, 2012
3:45 pm

Re-post for all the progressives that missed putting Obama’s feel good legislation into a little prospective. Last line is the feel good legislation results.

A little math prospective to put this mess in terms that everyone should be able to understand

US national revenue: 2,170,000,000,000
Federal Budget: 3,820,000,000,000
New Debt: 1,650,000,000,000
National debt: 14,271,000,000,000
Recent budget cuts: 35,500,000,000

Now let us remove 8 zeros and pretend it is a household budget:

Annual family income: $21,700
Money family spent: $38,200
New debt on the credit card: $16,500
Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710
Total household budget cuts so far: $38.50
New revenue coming in this next year (Obama proposed tax increase): $80.00

Nunna Yobinnes

December 31st, 2012
3:47 pm

Not meaning any disrespect to GHW Bush, but the image of him puking on the Japanese official at a state dinner is rather hilarious.

HDB

December 31st, 2012
3:47 pm

getalife
December 31st, 2012
3:39 pm

JamVet,

What do you think about Hillary’s blood clot problem?”

Hillary probably had a case of DVT (deep vein thrombosis) which occurs by being stationary for extended periods of time….especially on international flights! Since Hillary has been logging a LOT of jet mileage…it could have started there…and the fall exacerbated everything!! As long as the clot didn’t go to her lungs or brain, she’ll be OK..but she’s got to make some changes!!

The simplest way I found how to prevent it is 2 aspirin before takeoff……then one aspirin every 4 flight hours…..a lot of water…..and alcohol to thin your blood!! You have to get up and walk the aircraft aisles…..14 laps in a 747-400 = 1 mile!!

JamVet

December 31st, 2012
3:47 pm

get, I haven’t followed that story, but obviously I’m sending positive waves her way!

Brings back bad memories, but on the other hand, it has been my second chance and I’m living the dream, baby!

Here’s to you and yours having a great 13, buddy!

No matter how I try, it seems I’m too young to die

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7eg30GvV9E

indigo

December 31st, 2012
3:47 pm

That Black Guy – 3:31 “how does someone’s belief in Christ”

Well, let’s take one George W. Bush.

He professed to be a born again Christian.

It’s rumored he started the Iraq war to fulfill Bible prophesy.

He also got us involved in Afghanistan, all for Christ no doubt.

This, in turn with the rest of his Christian incompetence, threw us into the worst recession since the great depression.

Personally, my salary was cut 10%, and I eventually had to leave the company because of lack of work.

We are still in the Great Bush Recession. I’m not sure we’ll ever get out of it thanks to that great Christian George Bush.

Does THAT answer your question?

oldguy

December 31st, 2012
3:48 pm

You are wasting you energy Sock. You are dealing with “True Believers” on this blog. Lemmings have nothing on them when it comes to follow-the-leader. Their debating style is totally personal attacks (see above). You will get no intellectual debates here; just like at the Monkey cage at the Atlanta Zoo when challenged they will fling S$$$.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 31st, 2012
3:48 pm

As you guys know, my mom is here helping out my sister with the house and the twins, (I moved in with my sister and her husband because of all the stress of caring for our aunt, and the birth of her first son);

anywhoo……my mother is in the kitchen screaming at me to come and help her do the paella. NOW!

My point? Isn’t it amazing how you never grow up to your parents? This lady is in, technically, MY home, telling ME what to do!

Dios! she’s at it again gotta go c u later!

indigo

December 31st, 2012
3:49 pm

Granny – 3:20

It’s an oldie but goodie.

And, considering all your posts, you probably hit the bottle on many days other than New Years.

JamVet

December 31st, 2012
3:51 pm

Oh, that’s right, Debbie. My bad.

My list would have been a tad more brutal! (grin)

And did I ever tell you that it’s cold here in your blogging shadow?! (LOL at both of us!)

Another Kinks tune that is the polar opposite of that last one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdCVlmmnOzA

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
3:52 pm

Well, let’s take one George W. Bush.

He professed to be a born again Christian.

It’s rumored he started the Iraq war to fulfill Bible prophesy.

He also got us involved in Afghanistan, all for Christ no doubt.
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Do you have any sources to this or only a picture of your ass from which you pulled this crap out of?

getalife

December 31st, 2012
3:52 pm

Thanks HDB. Good advice.

JamVet,

I know you have experienced this issue so I wanted to get your opinion.

pogo

December 31st, 2012
3:54 pm

When the deficit gets below 5 trillion then and only then will I feel better about the state of this country. But it much easier to stick your head in the sand and just keep on consuming, isn’t it? Their is optimism and there is reality. The largeness of our reality is overwhelming any optimism.

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
3:55 pm

oldguy

December 31st, 2012
3:48 pm

You are wasting you energy Sock. You are dealing with “True Believers” on this blog. Lemmings have nothing on them when it comes to follow-the-leader. Their debating style is totally personal attacks (see above). You will get no intellectual debates here; just like at the Monkey cage at the Atlanta Zoo when challenged they will fling S$$$.
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One cannot “intellectually debate” those with no intellectual integrity. You post lies. How does one “debate” that? You post insipid, meaningless crap like “Staint Obama.” How does one debate against that?

Go back to Kyle’s where there are no intelligence standards. You are way out of your depth here. You haven’t yet risen to the level of a pimple on the butt of stupid, so there is nothing to “debate.’ you haven’t made a cognitive post OR point.

josef

December 31st, 2012
3:56 pm

Shhheeeesh…I think I’m going to buy stock in Gillette…there’s gonna be an upsurge in razor blade sales sounds like from reading here…

DDR

Oh, that’s who he is…I thought that was obvious…the fastest typist in the west…

So, New Year’s Eve….?

Nada. Those days are long, long gone by…

oldguy

December 31st, 2012
3:56 pm

Sorry TD
Facts mean nothing here.

getalife

December 31st, 2012
3:57 pm

pogo,

You cons don’t care about the deficit or you would have stranded up to w blowing it. You did not so give it a rest con.

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
3:57 pm

pogo

December 31st, 2012
3:54 pm

When the deficit gets below 5 trillion then and only then will I feel better about the state of this country. But it much easier to stick your head in the sand and just keep on consuming, isn’t it? Their is optimism and there is reality. The largeness of our reality is overwhelming any optimism.
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Ain’t that the truth. And George W. Bush’s optimistic “theory” about giving everyone a tax break so they could spend the money (consume) was proven to be really stupid hasn’t it…….

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
4:00 pm

Man. I want DDR’s paella recipe lol. I’ll forget to ask her when she comes back too I’ll bet………….

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
4:00 pm

oldguy

December 31st, 2012
3:56 pm

Sorry TD
Facts mean nothing here.
++++++++++++++++

How would you know? You have yet to present a single one.

oldguy

December 31st, 2012
4:01 pm

Case in point See above.

BTW Josef – Santa brought me a Le Mat revolver (replica of course) for my re-enactor uniform. what did he bring you?

getalife

December 31st, 2012
4:01 pm

You cons think America is dead and want a debate.

The premise to your argument is dead wrong.

You cheered on w’s destruction and now cry about it.

Debate that cons.

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
4:02 pm

come watch the early afternoon games with us josef. Bring a date it you want, (as long as it’s Unmentionable lol). Good food, good times, home before dark.

Common Sense isn't very Common

December 31st, 2012
4:05 pm

Fred

Ask DDR for her red beans and rice recipe for the pressure cooker :-)

indigo

December 31st, 2012
4:06 pm

josef

December 31st, 2012
4:06 pm

OLD GUY

GIN! Our tribes do Christmas gifting just for the kids. but they like to do something for the adults (you know, better give so you can receive!…so, looks like I’ll be set on the good stuff for a while…seven grandkids, seven bottles of gin… :-)

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
4:08 pm

oldguy Quit with your hypocrisy and lies. Show me the “facts” in your lie below. Point out where I said ANYWHERE that my “argument” was faith in Obama. Provide me with a link to information on this “religion of Saint Obama.” Oh wait, you aren’t a hypocrite, that was in insult OR a lie was it? Of course it was. Man up. Here are your words since you obviously have a limited attention span and forgot you typed them:

So your argument is that you have faith in Obama Fred? No Facts just faith?
You need to join a religious commune, the religion of Saint Obama.
There were millions like you in 1930’s Germany.

Common Sense isn't very Common

December 31st, 2012
4:08 pm

josef

Gin everywhere? Did anyone remember the Tonic?

:-)

Sock puppet "extraordinaire"- aka Doomy

December 31st, 2012
4:08 pm

“And George W. Bush’s optimistic “theory” about giving everyone a tax break so they could spend the money (consume) was proven to be really stupid hasn’t it…….”

So stupid in fact that Obama continued the same W tax cuts.

That Black Guy

December 31st, 2012
4:10 pm

indigo

December 31st, 2012
3:47 pm
That Black Guy – 3:31 “how does someone’s belief in Christ”

Well, let’s take one George W. Bush. – If you must…

He professed to be a born again Christian. – his business, not mine.

It’s rumored he started the Iraq war to fulfill Bible prophesy. – Do you have a link to support this? If not, this is just like the Obama BC nonsense or the Clinton bombed an asprin factory to dirvert attention away from his BJ parties. HINT: It’s not wise to base opinions off of *RUMORS*.

He also got us involved in Afghanistan, all for Christ no doubt. – Of course you have a link to back this up?

This, in turn with the rest of his Christian incompetence, threw us into the worst recession since the great depression. – How did the Afg War throw us into a recession?

Personally, my salary was cut 10%, and I eventually had to leave the company because of lack of work. – How did the Afg War cause your salary to be cut and a decrease in business? Unless your former employer had business interests in Afg, I can see the connection.

We are still in the Great Bush Recession. According to the WH, the recession ended in 2009.

I’m not sure we’ll ever get out of it thanks to that great Christian George Bush. – I have to disagree on 2 points;

1) The “Great Bush Recession” ended in 2009 according to the Obama WH.

2) This is America. We will bounce back once we stop blaming each other and work together to identify and fix the problem.

Does THAT answer your question? – Yes, but it inspired others.

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
4:10 pm

indigo

December 31st, 2012
4:06 pm

Fred – 3:52

Read it and learn,tool.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm
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Holy sht on a shingle. Really? Some whacked out far left crap sheet prints a load of garbage with not a shred of sources and it’s now suddenly “fact?”

Dude, that was weird, even for you……………….

josef

December 31st, 2012
4:12 pm

FRED

Love to, but we got to do black eyed peas, hawg jowls. corn bread and greens as per our usual tradition…luckily, this ain’t sit down, but swing by…paper plates and plastic forks…

Nunna Yobinnes

December 31st, 2012
4:12 pm

Kinda like that State Farm commercial – you can’t publish anything on the internet that’s not true.

That Black Guy

December 31st, 2012
4:13 pm

indigo, can you tell me something a little closer to home that shows how someone’s belief in Christ has effected you, your life, or how you live your life?

Co-worker, neighbor, family member.

That Black Guy

December 31st, 2012
4:15 pm

DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman

December 31st, 2012
3:48 pm
As you guys know, my mom is here helping out my sister with the house and the twins, (I moved in with my sister and her husband because of all the stress of caring for our aunt, and the birth of her first son);

anywhoo……my mother is in the kitchen screaming at me to come and help her do the paella. NOW!

My point? Isn’t it amazing how you never grow up to your parents? This lady is in, technically, MY home, telling ME what to do!
_________________________________
I bet you got your azz in that kitchen, tho… :lol:

oldguy

December 31st, 2012
4:15 pm

Easy on that Gin Josef!
Belvedere?
I still have some top notch 30 year old Single Malt – Strathisla from the family Clan distillery on the Isla river in the Highlands.
Enjoy your Gin!

indigo

December 31st, 2012
4:20 pm

That Old Guy

My family was fundamentalist. I was forced to go to Church 3 times a week, every week, for 18 years. I had to sit through endless fire and brimstone sermons delivered by preachers I now realize really loved frightening children.

Once, when I was 14, I asked the preacher who made God. His face turned red and, with hate filled eyes, told me I was an evil sinner for asking that.

Now, do you have any more questions?

JamVet

December 31st, 2012
4:20 pm

get, I ignored the symptoms for a long time (typical stupid guy). Hopefully she’s dealt with hers early on and the damage is minimal. But I’m living proof that miracles do happen!

Cold gin?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrlobjUhnc8

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
4:21 pm

josef: I got some FRESH (not reconstituted like they sell at Krogers) black eyed peas before Sherries closed for the season about two weeks ago. I cooked them up good with a ham bone and froze them. Honey is doing some pig in the crock pot,not jowls, a pig roast, and i had some collards (made with hocks) that I froze after Thanksgiving. All I have to do is thaw out the balck eyes and collards and make me some cornbread in my cast iron skillet. We’ll have that when I get home.

I have no clue how the collards will turn out, I’m going to heat them first thing tomorrow in case I have to do them fresh. I’ve never before frozen and collards. We just had so many left I couldn’t eat them all and I hate to toss food away, it’s wasteful what with so many people that have none. So we’ll see.

Maybe next year I’ll blanch the black eyed peas and then cook them on New Years day………. I know I want to try to cure a ham……….

Nunna Yobinnes

December 31st, 2012
4:21 pm

What’s this physical cliff I keep hearing about?

Paul

December 31st, 2012
4:24 pm

josef

“so, looks like I’ll be set on the good stuff for a while…seven grandkids, seven bottles of gin… :-)

Add that to the list ‘good things about grandkids”

If you ever see Stirrings tonic water, get a four-pack for a special occasion.

Did you get an assortment, or did they all get grampa his favorite?

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
4:24 pm

indigo

December 31st, 2012
4:20 pm

That Old Guy

My family was fundamentalist. I was forced to go to Church 3 times a week, every week, for 18 years. I had to sit through endless fire and brimstone sermons delivered by preachers I now realize really loved frightening children.

Once, when I was 14, I asked the preacher who made God. His face turned red and, with hate filled eyes, told me I was an evil sinner for asking that.

Now, do you have any more questions?
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Yeah, why do you hang on to the hate? It will eat you alive. Let it go.

jack bull

December 31st, 2012
4:26 pm

last few years in review for the middle class….
-gas prices have doubled
-food prices have doubled
-insurance premiums have doubled
-income has gone stagnant
-more people on EBT than any other time in history
-jobs are few and far between
But our dadgum taxes aren’t going to go up!

Seems fair to me…

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
4:27 pm

oldguy

December 31st, 2012
4:15 pm

Easy on that Gin Josef!
Belvedere?
++++++++++++++++++

Belvedere is Vodka is it not? http://www.belvederevodka.com/

My favorite Gin is Tanqueray. Served on the rocks with a splash of tonic and a squeeze of lime.

josef

December 31st, 2012
4:28 pm

FRED

Donc, sois sage. Tu es dans la la tente des athées pour son service de renouveau non religieux. Un peu de respect!

Plus de tous, il fait froid et on a besoin de le feu et le soufre. :-)

JamVet

December 31st, 2012
4:29 pm

I asked the preacher who made God.

I’m no great scholar, but I have read at some length, and at various stages of my existence, about epistemology, metaphysics and ontology.

And in one of my recent musings I coined an irreverent term for some aspects of such dogma – offtology!

My favorite Gin is Tanqueray. Served on the rocks with a splash of tonic and a squeeze of lime.

Amen! And pass the bottle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpKJUa6IoBs

indigo

December 31st, 2012
4:31 pm

Fred – 4:24

Unlike a light switch, it cannot be turned on and off.

Towncrier

December 31st, 2012
4:31 pm

“Now let us remove 8 zeros and pretend it is a household budget:

Annual family income: $21,700
Money family spent: $38,200
New debt on the credit card: $16,500
Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710
Total household budget cuts so far: $38.50
New revenue coming in this next year (Obama proposed tax increase): $80.00″

LOL, td. Guess no one wants to argue things are just peachy when put in this perspective. The problem I see with your analysis is that we are not talking common sense here, as we might for our own households. We are talking about gubmint and the fact that they don’t value other people’s or our country’s money as their own. Why should they? There’s no real accountability – no debtor’s prison, no loss of personal belongings, no loss of life or limb. They are as free to scream, wail, cause destruction, lie, cheat and so on as a spoiled, undisciplined child. You may judge a tree by its fruit. It is amazing to come here and see so many people brag about what good fruit it is.

jack bull

December 31st, 2012
4:33 pm

Now the President signs an Executive Order and Congress gets a pay raise! Wow, once again helping the middle class..ty

And now he’s antagonizing members of Congress..he very well may be the worst leader this country has ever had. This man does NOT understand what it takes to be a leader. Still placing blame on someone other than himself.. If he spent any time in the military, he would know real leaders always take the blame, and never take the credit….

pogo

December 31st, 2012
4:33 pm

Obama publically tears the flesh from Congress’s bones about every other week (just as he did this past weekend) but just last week he ordered them a pay raise. So Obama, the “campaigner for the common man and the great champion battling the great evil that is Congress”, orders a pay raise for his “arch enemy”, the evil and no-good Congress? You Obama followers are even stupider than I originally thought. Once I thought you supported him because he was black, you thought maybe he was different and maybe he wouldn’t fall prey to Washington politics. But now we have all found out that was a total lie (except the black part) and still, you Obama-butt kissers still support him. If Obama hadn’t have been black, he wouldn’t have even made even a decent small-time public defender, much less a President. A disturbing trend in America today is to elect or promote people just because they are black or female or asian or whatever, not based upon their qualifications. If we try and right wrongs from the past by doing wrongs now, we are fools. It can’t be done and the nation is the worse off for it.

Towncrier

December 31st, 2012
4:33 pm

“Once, when I was 14, I asked the preacher who made God. His face turned red and, with hate filled eyes, told me I was an evil sinner for asking that.”

Sorry to hear that. But the same (unanswerable) question may be put to atheists: where did matter come from?

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
4:34 pm

jack bull

December 31st, 2012
4:26 pm

last few years in review for the middle class….
-gas prices have doubled
-food prices have doubled
-insurance premiums have doubled
-income has gone stagnant
-more people on EBT than any other time in history
-jobs are few and far between
But our dadgum taxes aren’t going to go up!

Seems fair to me…
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A few quantitatively is 3. Gas prices have doubled in 3 years? Really? It was $2.50. Is it now $5.00?

My insurance rates have gone DOWN.

I paid $2.99 a gallon for milf three years ago. I paid the same yesterday.

Our family income has increased by $30,000 in the last three years.

I can go get a job tomorrow if I want one.

EBT? Don’t know. You may be right.

What is your point? Or did you just copy/paste that from somewhere……..

That Black Guy

December 31st, 2012
4:34 pm

I’m going to assume that this was for me, not oldguy…

indigo

December 31st, 2012
4:20 pm
That Old Guy

My family was fundamentalist. I was forced to go to Church 3 times a week, every week, for 18 years. I had to sit through endless fire and brimstone sermons delivered by preachers I now realize really loved frightening children. – How does that affect you today? You are an adult, no one is forcing you to go to church are they?

Once, when I was 14, I asked the preacher who made God. His face turned red and, with hate filled eyes, told me I was an evil sinner for asking that. – That STILL affects you to this day?

Now, do you have any more questions? – Yes, will you answer my questions from 4:10?

Towncrier

December 31st, 2012
4:36 pm

“So stupid in fact that Obama continued the same W tax cuts.”

Doh.

josef

December 31st, 2012
4:36 pm

Tanqueray…have to do my own tonic and lime!

Fresh black-eyes. fried hawg jowl, mustard greens…

A bud from down home finally consented to share his recipe for black eyed pea gumbo…can’t wait to try it out with the leftovers…

getalife

December 31st, 2012
4:36 pm

Jam,

Me too.

I hope the blood thinners work and she does not need brain surgery.

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
4:37 pm

pogo

December 31st, 2012
4:33 pm

Obama publically tears the flesh from Congress’s bones about every other week (just as he did this past weekend) but just last week he ordered them a pay raise. So Obama, the “campaigner for the common man and the great champion battling the great evil that is Congress”, orders a pay raise for his “arch enemy”, the evil and no-good Congress? You Obama followers are even stupider than I originally thought. Once I thought you supported him because he was black, you thought maybe he was different and maybe he wouldn’t fall prey to Washington politics. But now we have all found out that was a total lie (except the black part) and still, you Obama-butt kissers still support him. If Obama hadn’t have been black, he wouldn’t have even made even a decent small-time public defender, much less a President. A disturbing trend in America today is to elect or promote people just because they are black or female or asian or whatever, not based upon their qualifications. If we try and right wrongs from the past by doing wrongs now, we are fools. It can’t be done and the nation is the worse off for it.
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David Dukes called. He wants his sheet back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpBI-Y1QysE

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 31st, 2012
4:38 pm

Fred

This is what I wanted the yuzu for:

2 ounces / 1/4 cup bourbon (I used Michter’s)
3/4 ounce / 1 1/2 tablespoon good maple syrup
1/2 ounce / 1 tablespoon well-strained, fresh yuzu juice
1/2 ounce / 1 tablespoon well-strained, fresh Meyer lemon juice
extra small pinch of fine grain sea salt
ice

I’ll just double up on the Meyer lemon juice

JamVet

December 31st, 2012
4:38 pm

where did matter come from?

No one knows. Yet. But that is the fundamental difference. Science is always acquiring new knowledge, and correcting and integrating previous knowledge.

And it seems to me that most religions have no need for that. They already have all of the answers.

We’re all discrimination/elimination machines.

I’m just trying to filter out the noise and get to what’s real…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBrgDdmN1Qs

That Black Guy

December 31st, 2012
4:39 pm

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
4:34 pm
I paid $2.99 a gallon for milf three years ago. I paid the same yesterday
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Fred, I buy my “milf” by the pound. :lol:

Nunna Yobinnes

December 31st, 2012
4:40 pm

TBG – Aw woo woo! You’re gonna git your mouth washed out with soap for that one!

Towncrier

December 31st, 2012
4:41 pm

“No one knows. Yet.”

And the same may be said about where God came from. You will die before you have an answer to either questions and, if the Bible is true, you will have your answer then.

oldguy

December 31st, 2012
4:42 pm

Fred,
Tanqueray is good stuff. I prefer Bombay Gin (I particularly like the bottle). I am a big fan of Victorian England and have an extensive collection of Victorian coinage.
p.s. You are probably correct about the Gin/Vodka thing. I don’t drink either enough to keep the brands very straight.

Brosephus™

December 31st, 2012
4:46 pm

Now let us remove 8 zeros and pretend it is a household budget:

Annual family income: $21,700
Money family spent: $38,200
New debt on the credit card: $16,500
Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710
Total household budget cuts so far: $38.50
New revenue coming in this next year (Obama proposed tax increase): $80.00

That is the dumbest sh*t I’ve seen to date. How in the hell will a family, who’s annual income is less than $25k a year, ever get enough credit to run up a balance of almost $150k? That’s why so many politicians fail at budgeting. If they rely on logic like this, I’m surprised the US lasted more than 200 years.

:roll: //drive-by :roll:

jack bull

December 31st, 2012
4:46 pm

gas prices were $1.89

you’ve made more money..good for you, now go pay more taxes.

milk cost more than it ever has. My uncle has a runs a major fairy farm in KS. I know this for fact.

where exactly can you go get a job tomorrow…minus Mickey D’s…

you must be the only person I know(not know but heard of) that his insurance went down. Again, good for you..

My current employer made the comment just last week..From now on, only hiring temporary workers. also, the expansion he was planning on will wait for at least 3 years..
Again, sounds good to the middle class..

My point, we(the middle class) are tired of all the smoke and mirrors. The last 4 years have NOT been better than the previous 4 years. plain and simple..

and if you say that they have, you’re not telling the truth..

getalife

December 31st, 2012
4:46 pm

crier,

No, you will not have the answers when you die.

jack bull

December 31st, 2012
4:47 pm

speaking of budgets..

the Senate has failed to pass a budget in over 1000 days…nice job, Mr Reid..

Brosephus™

December 31st, 2012
4:48 pm

When the deficit gets below 5 trillion then and only then will I feel better about the state of this country.

The deficit hasn’t crossed 2 trillion yet, so why are you feeling bad in the first place? The deficit and debt are two entirely different things, and the two are not interchangable. Geez….

jack bull

December 31st, 2012
4:48 pm

of course to Democrats, this is perfectly fine…heck, they want to give the President the power to spend as much as he wants and raise the debt ceiling when he wants…again, nice!

jack bull

December 31st, 2012
4:49 pm

thoughts and prayers go out to Secretary Clinton, by the way..

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
4:50 pm

indigo

December 31st, 2012
4:31 pm

Fred – 4:24

Unlike a light switch, it cannot be turned on and off.
+++++++++++++++++++

I understand that, but you should work on it. It does you no good all that hate. LOL Don’t get me started on Southern Baptists………….. Can’t stand those rat bastiches…………. but I’m TRYING to work on it……….

indigo

December 31st, 2012
4:51 pm

That Black Guy – 4:34

What questions?

All I see are two statements.

curious

December 31st, 2012
4:51 pm

I’m having appetizers this PM nefore the LSU-Clemson game. Nothing better than pig’s feet and Jack Daniels to get you in the mood.

TaxPayer

December 31st, 2012
4:52 pm

Happy new fear to all you NRA cons out there.

josef

December 31st, 2012
4:52 pm

INDIGO

As a wee tot I asked the rabbinical tradition Grandfather the same question. He said that H- made H-mself. How? “H- spoke H-s name.” And what is that N-me? “We don’t know. If we did, then we’d BE G-d, and we’re not,” H- told Moses it was E-h asher E-h” It comes from the verb hayah, meaning to exist…so, being an existentialist of a sorts, you ought not to have a lot of problem with that.

getalife

December 31st, 2012
4:54 pm

It is amateur night so be careful out there.

Watch out for roadblocks (nazis checking papers).

Paul

December 31st, 2012
4:54 pm

jack bull

“the Senate has failed to pass a budget in over 1000 days…nice job, Mr Reid..”

I am unfamiliar with any constitutional requirement for the Senate to pass a budget. I understand that’s the charge of the House. House passes, Senate looks it over, they go in conference and reconcile.

Ditto regarding Sec Clinton.

josef

December 31st, 2012
4:55 pm

JACK

“My uncle has a runs a major fairy farm ”

I know it’s either a typo or that auto correct, but ya gotta admit… :-)

Towncrier

December 31st, 2012
4:56 pm

“That is the dumbest sh*t I’ve seen to date. How in the hell will a family, who’s annual income is less than $25k a year, ever get enough credit to run up a balance of almost $150k? That’s why so many politicians fail at budgeting. If they rely on logic like this, I’m surprised the US lasted more than 200 years.”

I would instead nominate your emotional knee-jerk response as the winner of this dubious honor, because you obviously haven’t thought it through (I mean, really – are you unable to imagine a scenario in which tremendous debt might be accumulated and income might vary considerably over time?). It’s clear you are merely uncomfortable with the implications but demeaning the poster only wins you an argument on the playground.

Fred ™

December 31st, 2012
4:57 pm

jack bull

December 31st, 2012
4:48 pm

of course to Democrats, this is perfectly fine…heck, they want to give the President the power to spend as much as he wants and raise the debt ceiling when he wants…again, nice!
++++++++++++++++++++

I really pity you.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 31st, 2012
4:57 pm

My uncle has a runs a major fairy farm in KS.

So that’s where Tinkerbell is from.

josef

December 31st, 2012
4:58 pm

OLD GUY

Bombay is my “daily gin!” And no fan of the Victorian Period myself, but I suppose with the right amount of gin, I’d've gotten through!

jack bull

December 31st, 2012
4:58 pm

i just learned how to type Josef, I’m so sorry..

Towncrier

December 31st, 2012
4:59 pm

“Don’t get me started on Southern Baptists………….. Can’t stand those rat bastiches…………. but I’m TRYING to work on it…”

Didn’t you profess to be a Christian the other day?

jack bull

December 31st, 2012
4:59 pm

trust me Fred, the feeling is mutual…

TaxPayer

December 31st, 2012
5:01 pm

jack bull

December 31st, 2012
5:01 pm

House has passed one, two and three, sent to the Senate, simply disregarded….again, this is okay to some.

barking frog

December 31st, 2012
5:02 pm

jack bull
i just learned how to type Josef, I’m so sorry..
……………………………………….
no cause for sorrow in learning to type josef,
many have tried and failed….

getalife

December 31st, 2012
5:03 pm

jack,

congress is to blame so you got that right.

TaxPayer

December 31st, 2012
5:03 pm

Jack neglects to mention the bull in those house bills. How convenient.

Jackie

December 31st, 2012
5:03 pm

The House still refuses to vote on the items presented to avert part of the fiscal calamities that will hurt the middle class.

Wonder who cares about the best interest of the American public?

td

December 31st, 2012
5:03 pm

Brosephus™

December 31st, 2012
4:46 pm

Now let us remove 8 zeros and pretend it is a household budget:

Annual family income: $21,700
Money family spent: $38,200
New debt on the credit card: $16,500
Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710
Total household budget cuts so far: $38.50
New revenue coming in this next year (Obama proposed tax increase): $80.00

That is the dumbest sh*t I’ve seen to date. How in the hell will a family, who’s annual income is less than $25k a year, ever get enough credit to run up a balance of almost $150k? That’s why so many politicians fail at budgeting. If they rely on logic like this, I’m surprised the US lasted more than 200 years.

So that is why the Federal government kept allowing people that made $30 to $35 thousand a year to get loans on $300 to $400 thousand homes.

That Black Guy

December 31st, 2012
5:05 pm

indigo

December 31st, 2012
4:51 pm
That Black Guy – 4:34

What questions?

All I see are two statements.
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It’s rumored he started the Iraq war to fulfill Bible prophesy. – Do you have a link to support this? If not, this is just like the Obama BC nonsense or the Clinton bombed an asprin factory to dirvert attention away from his BJ parties. HINT: It’s not wise to base opinions off of *RUMORS*.

He also got us involved in Afghanistan, all for Christ no doubt. – Of course you have a link to back this up?

This, in turn with the rest of his Christian incompetence, threw us into the worst recession since the great depression. – How did the Afg War throw us into a recession?

Personally, my salary was cut 10%, and I eventually had to leave the company because of lack of work. – How did the Afg War cause your salary to be cut and a decrease in business? Unless your former employer had business interests in Afg, I can see the connection.

Jackie

December 31st, 2012
5:05 pm

The House has passed NO bills to resolve the impending fiscal cliff.
The Senate has tried to move forward on the issue, to no avail.

barking frog

December 31st, 2012
5:06 pm

Jackie
Wonder who cares about the best interest of the American public?
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Certainly not the American public.