With New Year, a chance to dump ‘negative waves’
In cultures around the world, the arrival of a new year means more than the mere changing of the calendar. It is a time of cleansing and renewal, an opportunity to set past disappointments aside and to look ahead with optimism.
But let’s be honest: These are not the easiest of times in which to set aside fear in favor of optimism.
The financial meltdown of four or five years ago lingers like a hangover from a holiday party that went on much too long. The economy continues its slow recovery; Georgia’s unemployment rate last month was 8.5 percent, down a full percentage point from a year earlier and down almost two full percentage points from 2010. But it is sign of diminished expectations when a statewide jobless rate of 8.5 percent is considered evidence of progress.
And as too many of our fellow Americans know, those cold, impersonal numbers hide deep personal pain, loss and frustration. The American dream and its inherent promise that hard work will be rewarded no longer seem plausible for many, particularly the young. Only the foolish would try to deny that profound, unsettling changes are under way, and for one of the few times in our nation’s history, parents have cause to wonder whether their children and grandchildren will live in a world of reduced opportunity.
On the other hand, anger and disappointment can become self-fulfilling prophecies if indulged too long, and a backward-looking fixation on what used to be will blind you to what can be. That is as true for nations as it is for individuals. Previous generations of Americans faced times much more challenging than these and overcame them, and there is no reason to believe that we are not their legitimate and equally capable heirs.
At the moment, though, such context seems in short supply. In a new Washington Post/ABC News poll, just 40 percent of Americans describe themselves as hopeful about the course of world events in the coming year, while 56 percent described themselves as fearful. Unfortunately, a good part of that dismal showing can be explained as the aftermath of a deeply divisive, hard-fought election campaign that both political parties treated as a life-and-death struggle.
According to the Post poll, just 18 percent of Republicans report that they are hopeful about the course of world events in 2013, compared to 38 percent of independents and 61 percent of Democrats; 72 percent of Republicans describe themselves as fearful about what the next year will bring.
In the political world, such numbers have a way of compounding themselves. As Ronald Reagan knew better than anyone, and as the Democrats learned from Reagan the hard way, a party animated by the belief that this is a country in decline will find it difficult to rally others to its cause, creating a spiral that is hard to reverse.
It’s also important to remember that people of all political persuasions tend to exaggerate the importance of government and who runs it. Except in times of war, and at moments of economic crisis such as that of 2008-2009, government actually plays a relatively small role in the course of human events. At times we like to believe otherwise; we like to believe that acting through government, we exert direct control our own fate, but most of the that time, that simply isn’t true.
Faith in ourselves, each other and our country — or the lack of it — is far more important.
– Jay Bookman
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barking frog
December 31st, 2012
11:48 am
Brosephus
Aquagirl is amazed at our ball sensitivity.
Thomas Heyward Jr
December 31st, 2012
11:48 am
Naw……………
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just CYA.
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Even Obama/Romney-Bots see the awful Keynesian/Centrally-planned economy/ponzi-schemme poop ………… on the wall.
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Herein lies a practice run.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufk7IXdxc-c
Brosephus™
December 31st, 2012
11:49 am
skipper
Some of the parents had thought I got hit in the leg until I didn’t get back up. Most of the baseball dads joked me for a while after taking that one. I refused to sit on an ice pack in the dugout though. We had those chain link dugouts, and the thought of everyone seeing that was too embarassing then… damned ego…
Aquagirl
December 31st, 2012
11:49 am
Don’t believe American Indians had alcoholic drinks.
Now we know what happened to the Roanoke colony. Somebody thought the gift basket of dried mushrooms was a side dish.
JamVet
December 31st, 2012
11:49 am
I don’t want to see Sinkwich banned, I want him to write a book, take a picture and scream it from the rooftops. The more the right attempts to sell that nonsensical claptrap the closer we will get to returning the Republican party to relevance as people continue the rejection of the extremists that began with this election.
HEAR, HEAR!!
After thirty years of this awful, fake conservatism, it turns out that all we had to do was give the Uncle Sam haters enough time (and rope) and they would do the rest.
However, I do have one relevant correction to that otherwise great post – the right wing fanatics really started tanking before the Reign of Error ended. To wit, they got absolutely humiliated, annihilated and decimated in 2006 and 2008 as well as in 2012.
I don’t see that trend changing anytime soon. Does anyone here?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 31st, 2012
11:50 am
You need some new material for 2013, dude.
You don’t have the authority to define what it is that I “need”, ilk-boy.
Thulsa Doom
December 31st, 2012
11:50 am
Josef,
aaaah. So now u want to get into the “mine is bigger than yours” debate. Or in this case wackier. So be it. My stalker is wackier than your stalker. na na na na na.
Brosephus™
December 31st, 2012
11:50 am
frog
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 31st, 2012
11:50 am
TC
As a social conservative, who believes strongly that prosperity and harmony depend upon individual morality, I see very little hope for our future. A house divided against itself cannot stand.
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So you voted Democratic ticket eh?
Seems the Republican were against a lot of the good books teaching this election cycle
williebkind
December 31st, 2012
11:51 am
“Jay, According to your headline, does that mean that all your blogs in 2013 will be positive?
No more bashing Republicans?”
No, it is Jay’s way of conveying the liberal progressive ideology of compromise–forget you values and beliefs and accept the liberals values.
Old Timer
December 31st, 2012
11:52 am
Term Limits would solve alot of our government problems. Politics should not be a full time personal proffession. Currently the system is broken in Washington and at home.
Thulsa Doom
December 31st, 2012
11:52 am
I see the repetitive post bunny intends on using the same retreaded material for 2013. Bo ring.
skipper
December 31st, 2012
11:53 am
Maybe Jay is right (this once-ha ha!)
Lets be optimistic and just see what happens. Each party is selling wolf-tickets as hard as they can and so far (if their goal has been to scare the sh*t out of or just disappoint folks) they have been a resounding success!
Cherokee
December 31st, 2012
11:54 am
Living, there is some validity to what you say.
I don’t want to work like the Chinese are forced to, either.
But when a white guy like me complains most of the day, then heads off for home at exactly quitting time, while the Hispanics quietly go about doing the job, and are willing to work till it gets done… sorry, but you can’t blame a contractor for hiring them.
josef
December 31st, 2012
11:54 am
COMMON SENSE
No beer, but mine had some good corn squeezings! Seriously, one line was invited, despite their being Jewish, to come to Virginia to develop the distilling industry, their specialty. Before that, they were allowed into England following the St Bart’s repression for their skills in that sector…
EYES OPEN
Unmentionable said to tell you, yep…that’s what his Americans were saying back, oh, about 1565…
Aquagirl
December 31st, 2012
11:55 am
Aquagirl is amazed at our ball sensitivity.
And is thankful dad’s fastest little fish had an X chromosome.
Then again MMA guys seem to recover after a few moments, maybe y’all just need to toughen up.
skipper
December 31st, 2012
11:55 am
And, Bro,
I’ll refrain from any more “family-jewell” comments, but lets just say I thought I would be a tenor on the Vienna Boy’s Choir after that lick……..no more football for me that night!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 31st, 2012
11:55 am
… sorry, but you can’t blame a contractor for hiring them.
Yes, you really can.
Brosephus™
December 31st, 2012
11:57 am
skipper
I completely understand.
barking frog
December 31st, 2012
11:58 am
Aquagirl
Then again MMA guys seem to recover after a few moments, maybe y’all just need to toughen up.
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says the voice of inexperience….
Towncrier
December 31st, 2012
11:59 am
“So you voted Democratic ticket eh?”
No. I don’t know how anyone who professes to believe in the Biblical God can be an advocate for birth control via abortion and gay rights. This is a democracy, of course, and accepting what the majority says (despite your own opposition) is different from advocacy.
“Seems the Republican were against a lot of the good books teaching this election cycle.”
You need to be more specific, there. And you should know that though I am registered as a Republican (because that is the way, for want of choice, I usually vote), I have never given money to the party or attended any rally. Nor do I belong to any political organization. I am a conservative who, for the time being, has been voting Republican. I do no defend either party or politicians in general (for obvious reasons).
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 31st, 2012
11:59 am
Aquagirl
Then again MMA guys seem to recover after a few moments, maybe y’all just need to toughen up
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And maybe they need to grow a pair
barking frog
December 31st, 2012
12:03 pm
When I first read Jay’s headline I read ‘With New Year, a chance to dump
negative wives’ and I thought ooow bad road trip….
Living With Open Eyes
December 31st, 2012
12:04 pm
Cherokee-And you can”t blame wolves for eating sheep either. Enough of that, I”m going to put on my rose- colored glasses and look forward to a blessed and prosperous New Year and really try to be optimistic. Thank you all for your comments and may God bless each and every one of you in 2013.
DannyX
December 31st, 2012
12:05 pm
“I don’t know how anyone who professes to believe in the Biblical God can be an advocate for birth control via abortion and gay rights.”
Right. Because Jesus was all about worshiping the rich and mocking the poor, and would’ve hated health care for the working poor. Jesus would cheer Shock and Awe. He would hate the gays and love divorce.
barking frog
December 31st, 2012
12:06 pm
Common Sense
I’m amazed that the MMA guys never use all the killer blows that are
so advertised…..
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 31st, 2012
12:06 pm
Kanye West: Kim Kardashian Is Pregnant
Kanye West: ‘I Ain’t Crazy, I’m Just Not Satisfied’
Kanye West. About to be kicked to the curb by Kim K.?
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 31st, 2012
12:07 pm
frog
You KNOW it’s because all those MMA guys are so tough (just like the wrasslers) LMAO
barking frog
December 31st, 2012
12:09 pm
Kamchak
Will chris Humphries pay child support ?
JamVet
December 31st, 2012
12:09 pm
Old Timer, I have gone back and forth on that one a number of times over the years, but have come to the conclusion that desperate times (of entrenched and unabashed corruption) require desperate measures.
Twelve years.
At least we get new corrupt faces once in a while!
Or better yet, since they are people, maybe we should just elect corporations, get rid of the middle men and be done with the pretense!
I’ve been burned in my prime
The simple things in life
Seem so hard to learn sometimes
And it takes so long
Catch it while you can
Too late tomorrow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNN96qYE9kg
Thomas Heyward Jr
December 31st, 2012
12:10 pm
“we like to believe that acting through government, we exert direct control our own fate, but most of the that time, that simply isn’t true.”
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Only Government-School indoctrinated Romney/Obama-Bots have EVER believed that “acting through government will exert direct control of our fate”.
(or possibly soccer fans).
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The MOST positive aspect of 2013 is that…….more and more…..the intelligent people are outnumbering the above in various districts and elections..(see recent voting/not voting trends).
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The Liberty movement is growing.
Forward Freedom.!
Georgia
December 31st, 2012
12:11 pm
Bookman’s piece is a little disconcerting. Notice his Jeffersonian “government has little to do with the course of human events”. Jay even worked the phrase “self-fulfilling prophecy” which, when hyphenated and then coupled with “the course of human events” always makes one sound sound. (and wise). This piece must be a self-stewing reflection of egg nog and mimosas. Jay must have had a coupld of slugs, and then saw the rerun of the Dirty Dozen bit and then realized he could match it to the Washington Post poll about forward sentiment. Jay’s entire blog career relies on the government being a bigger and bigger part of everyone’s life. Healthcare. Social Security. Taxes. Defense. Infrastructure. Jay’s credibility will survive this piece, because we’re all stewed too, with rum cake, gin, and you know what from you know where (colorado). Miller Time on New Year’s Eve is no time to be a philosophizing contrarian. I mean, Jay even quoted Reagan. Snap out of it, sir! Happy New Year. Drink. and save bits like this for April Fools Day.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 31st, 2012
12:13 pm
frog
I don’t see why, since it’s not his kid, Kanye announced this at a concert claiming Kim K. is his “baby momma.”
Kinda stupid to also claim he is not satisfied.
barking frog
December 31st, 2012
12:14 pm
Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery. -Vanilla Ice
Nunna Yobinnes
December 31st, 2012
12:16 pm
Former Pike Family Nursery Sign – frican Violets – $2.50
Towncrier
December 31st, 2012
12:16 pm
“Right. Because Jesus was all about worshiping the rich and mocking the poor, and would’ve hated health care for the working poor. Jesus would cheer Shock and Awe. He would hate the gays and love divorce.”
You really should study the NT before making these kind of pronouncements – for they display a clear ignorance of the scriptures. Jesus had really next to nothing to say about government. All he said was directed at individuals. He taught that individuals should love their neighbor as themselves, feed the hungry, clothe the naked and attend to the sick. He taught that is is hard for the wealthy to enter the kingdom of heaven. He said next to nothing about war, except the war each one of us is enlisted in when we are either for or against him. He did not hate homosexuals but rather any sin that we deliberately (not unintentionally) commit, day after day. He hated divorce and said that there are no grounds for it (and then getting remarried) except adultery (I really don’t who decriminalized adultery and watered down divorce laws in this country, but I see that as a big problem).
barking frog
December 31st, 2012
12:16 pm
Kamchak
An old legal position was that a child of the marriage was a child of the father.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 31st, 2012
12:17 pm
Notice his Jeffersonian “government has little to do with the course of human events”.
“I like big butts and I cannot lie.”
– Thomas “Sir Mix-A-Lot” Jefferson
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 31st, 2012
12:19 pm
frog
I can think of a lot of phrases to describe Kim K., but “old legal position” isn’t one of them.
JamVet
December 31st, 2012
12:20 pm
…forget you values and beliefs…
Yeah, always a bad move.
Ask Mitt Romney.
DannyX
December 31st, 2012
12:22 pm
Lol Towncrier! What a total bail out! How’s that log in your eye?
Btw Towncrier, what sins of yours does society need protection from?
barking frog
December 31st, 2012
12:22 pm
Kamchak
I agree especially ‘legal’
Nunna Yobinnes
December 31st, 2012
12:23 pm
The most obscene Georgia county name – “Effingham” Used in a sentence: “I got to git me some of that effingham.”
indigo
December 31st, 2012
12:25 pm
Kamchak – 11:48
I’m not the one who constantly finds it necessary to post “not meant to be a factual statement”.
Ignorance.
barking frog
December 31st, 2012
12:25 pm
When you live under a government “of the people, by the people and for
the people” you have no one to blame but yourself.
Brosephus™
December 31st, 2012
12:29 pm
“I got to git me some of that effingham.”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 31st, 2012
12:31 pm
I’m not the one who constantly finds it necessary…
What I consider “necessary”: eating, sleeping, breathing, hydrating, micturating, and defecating.
Perhaps you should ask me what it is that I think rather than displaying your ignorance.
Just suggestin’.
Nunna Yobinnes
December 31st, 2012
12:32 pm
Bro – some folks have difficulty constructing a sentence without using the “F” word. Actually I mesed up my own joke by not inserting a space between effing and ham.
Granny Godzilla
December 31st, 2012
12:32 pm
indigo
“I’m not the one who constantly finds it necessary to post “not meant to be a factual statement”.”
Nope, you sure don’t.
That’s kinda sad don’t ya’ think?
Why would you let a falsehood stand?
Cowardice or Ignorance?
indigo
December 31st, 2012
12:32 pm
Regnard – 11:44
Are you aware we don’t know who actually wrote the New Testament?
Are you aware that Jesus, if he ever existed, left no writings?
Why are you willing to “comport yourself in life” with the words of an unknown person?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 31st, 2012
12:33 pm
Effingham?
Sounds like something that hookers charge extra for.
Nunna Yobinnes
December 31st, 2012
12:34 pm
And then I misspelled “messing”,,,
Nunna Yobinnes
December 31st, 2012
12:35 pm
Kam – You want ham with that?
That Black Guy
December 31st, 2012
12:37 pm
Oscar
December 31st, 2012
10:57 am
People who are afraid of change and the future are conservatives. People who are not afraid of change and the future are liberals.
Regnad Kcin
December 31st, 2012
11:02 am
I think we’re on the right track with this one.
Conservatives = no change, & liberals = change, by definition, right?
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I see Broad Brushes R Us made at lease 2 deliveries over the weekend.
When will Sweeping Generalization Paint restock your supply.
You guys seen to be going through it like water.
Aquagirl
December 31st, 2012
12:38 pm
then I misspelled “messing”,,,
And then followed up with an ellipsis fail.
Poor Nunna.
Nunna Yobinnes
December 31st, 2012
12:39 pm
Aquagirl – Dang I’m on a roll today.
getalife
December 31st, 2012
12:41 pm
cons declared America dead after they got crushed the second time.
Sane Americans ignore them and keep moving on.
Lets listen to Americans that have not been dead wrong for the last thirty years.
They are bullish on America and so am I.
Nunna Yobinnes
December 31st, 2012
12:41 pm
You got to use your ellipsis to eat the effing ham.
Regnad Kcin
December 31st, 2012
12:42 pm
“Are you aware that Jesus, if he ever existed, left no writings?
Why are you willing to “comport yourself in life” with
indigo – seems like you’re arguing with the name, not the philosophy. The philosophy does not change because of who originated it, does it? Why would I care if they are “the words of an unknown person?”
Regnad Kcin
December 31st, 2012
12:44 pm
“I see Broad Brushes R Us made at lease 2 deliveries over the weekend.”
Black guy – I see where you might get that impression. In the original post, the opinion was multiply qualified.
Aquagirl
December 31st, 2012
12:45 pm
Nunna, displaying an ellipsis in the proximity of an effing ham violates several state, local, and federal laws.
Let’s not start the new year in jail, huh?
Nunna Yobinnes
December 31st, 2012
12:46 pm
Ok. Rats. I cain’t never have no fun.
Towncrier
December 31st, 2012
12:46 pm
“Are you aware we don’t know who actually wrote the New Testament?”
Huh? Dude, most people who advocate for existential atheism display a bit more intelligence than this.
“Are you aware that Jesus, if he ever existed, left no writings?”
What he said was recorded by others, just like if you testified in court a hundred years ago a court recorder would have written down what you said.
“Why are you willing to “comport yourself in life” with the words of an unknown person?”
While a few influential thinkers have questioned the historical existence of Jesus, they are in the vast minority. In turn, I would ask you why you are still alive. Camus said that the first philosophic question is suicide. Perhaps you are more like Hamlet:
For who would bear the Whips and Scorns of time,
The Oppressor’s wrong, the proud man’s Contumely,
The pangs of despised Love, the Law’s delay,
The insolence of Office, and the Spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his Quietus make
With a bare Bodkin? Who would Fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscovered Country, from whose bourn
No Traveller returns, Puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have,
Than fly to others that we know not of.
josef
December 31st, 2012
12:47 pm
INDIGO
“Are you aware that Jesus, if he ever existed,..”
Not being one to let the facts of the matter get in the way of a good story, how many more times to you have to be referred to the writing of Josephus, a contemporary, and generally considered a reputable source by SECULAR historians…
Was he the Son of G-d, the Messiah, etc…? I’m not getting into that argument. It’s not my religion.
Cherokee
December 31st, 2012
12:47 pm
Not if they’re here legally, Kam.
That Black Guy
December 31st, 2012
12:48 pm
Brosephus™
December 31st, 2012
11:26 am
Oscar
I had on a cup. It didn’t help because the ball hit the edge of the cup and pushed the edge of the cup into the nether region
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Please stop…
Please
Pretty Please.
Doggone/GA
December 31st, 2012
12:49 pm
“how many more times to you have to be referred to the writing of Josephus, a contemporary, and generally considered a reputable source by SECULAR historians”
yeah, well…as far as I know Josephus never met Jesus…so his “reporting” is still hearsay
Brosephus™
December 31st, 2012
12:50 pm
TBG
That is something that I hope no man ever has to experience…..
josef
December 31st, 2012
12:52 pm
DOGGONE
Well, since we don’t know he didn’t either…
moonbat betty
December 31st, 2012
12:53 pm
If you ain’t bleedin’, you ain’t hurt.
Cherokee
December 31st, 2012
12:54 pm
TownCrier, may I suggest Matthew 25:32 and following? Jesus was very specific about the responstibilities of *nations* to care for their poor and sick and less fortunate.
And that is one reason I usually vote Democratic.
Granny Godzilla
December 31st, 2012
12:56 pm
Towncrier
Your equating Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and all the rest AND their ghostwriters to court reporters
is pretty damn funny.
Do you equate Constantine and the Council of Nicea to judge and jury then?
Doggone/GA
December 31st, 2012
12:57 pm
“Well, since we don’t know he didn’t either”
Given how much he DID say, I think it’s safe to assume that if he had, he would have said so.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 31st, 2012
1:01 pm
How will THE SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! be celebrating the new year?
Nunna Yobinnes
December 31st, 2012
1:03 pm
Kam – They’re probably dead if they are old enough to be the son of a confederate veteran. I’m just sayin’.
Towncrier
December 31st, 2012
1:05 pm
“TownCrier, may I suggest Matthew 25:32 and following? Jesus was very specific about the responstibilities of *nations* to care for their poor and sick and less fortunate. And that is one reason I usually vote Democratic.”
Thanks for the thoughtful response. But I think you are misinterpreting this passage. What is in view is the day of judgement and the Greek work translated “nations” (ethnos) means “race” or “culture” (as in Gentiles versus Jews). I think the burden is upon you to show that it means “governments” – especially given what follows in the separation of (individual) sheep from goats (not cultures or governments). You might want to look at passages which clearly refer to government (such as Romans 13) to see what Greek words were used.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 31st, 2012
1:05 pm
What he said was recorded by others, just like if you testified in court a hundred years ago a court recorder would have written down what you said.
Without getting into the whole debate, this is simply not true. A court reporter is sworn to take down sworn testimony verbatim as it is given. In fact, there were NO concurrent testimony with any of claims of acts by Jesus, the accounts disagree and some modified to represent the objective of the presenter. some of the claims are clearly false, and there are translation issues. To try to give this the same credence as a transcript prepared by a court reporter is simply silly, NOR does any court transcription regarding witness testimony mean that the “story” given by testimony is true. In fact, many witnesses have been impeached.
josef
December 31st, 2012
1:06 pm
DOOGONE
Just being EOI here, there have been an awful lot of writings (some contemporary) of what Josephus DIDN’T say…he was first and foremost, a court historian…an accurate one as far as what he DID say, but he was known by his contemporaries for leaving out certain details…I doubt, given the generally low regard that the early followers of the teachings of the Christ were held, he would have admitted it…
But, you could also make the contention that he and the Christ “ran in different circles,” too.
saywhat?
December 31st, 2012
1:06 pm
“We either make ouselves happy or miserable. The amount of work is the same.”
Carlos Castaneda
moonbat betty
December 31st, 2012
1:07 pm
Obama is peeing all over you and you think it’s champagne!
Happy New Year!
td
December 31st, 2012
1:08 pm
Dianne Feinstein: “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States, for an outright ban, picking up [every gun]… Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in.”
This is for all you progressives that told me the past few days that there is no political leader that wants to take all guns away. Tell me another one now.
http://www.infowars.com/video-dianne-feinstein-says-prepare-to-turn-in-your-guns/
getalife
December 31st, 2012
1:09 pm
Huntsman said the gop are without a soul.
They sold it to the highest bidder but why is he still republican?
Looks like a deal is close but will it pass congress?
Nunna Yobinnes
December 31st, 2012
1:09 pm
Moonbat – Ewwwwwww.
josef
December 31st, 2012
1:09 pm
Nunna
There’s still a handful of them…this one passed on last year…
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/jan/28/james-brown-sr-one-of-last-real-sons-of-veterans/
Nunna Yobinnes
December 31st, 2012
1:10 pm
Josef – Wow. Them thar iz some old peepul.
Doggone/GA
December 31st, 2012
1:12 pm
“he was first and foremost, a court historian”
Sure, but the bottomline is that he didn’t KNOW Jesus existed…he simply reported what he was told. There’s no evidence that he verified the man’s existence. The most important thing he DID report was that the followers of Jesus “did not give up their affection for him” (close, if not an exact, quote) after he died. And THAT is more important than anything else.
saywhat?
December 31st, 2012
1:12 pm
td “This is for all you progressives that told me the past few days that there is no political leader that wants to take all guns away. Tell me another one now.”
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In my opinion, there aren’t ENOUGH political leaders who want to take all guns away.
Towncrier
December 31st, 2012
1:12 pm
“Your equating Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and all the rest AND their ghostwriters to court reporters is pretty damn funny.”
I see. So you think, given evidence of instances of unreliability of human memory, that it is therefore NEVER reliable over time. Got any proof of that?
“Do you equate Constantine and the Council of Nicea to judge and jury then?”
I do not generally equate Catholicism (as an institution) with Christianity. You should not make that unthinking mistake either.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 31st, 2012
1:13 pm
Dem Sen: ‘Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in’…
drudgey spam.
saywhat?
December 31st, 2012
1:13 pm
moonbat betty
December 31st, 2012
1:07 pm
Obama is peeing all over you and you think it’s champagne!
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Bush crapped all over America and you still think it was brownies.
Happy New Year!
indigo
December 31st, 2012
1:15 pm
Towncrier – 12:46
Time to get a little education.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1988/who-wrote-the-bible-part-4
moonbat betty
December 31st, 2012
1:15 pm
saywhat?
Nope, just “special” brownies just for you.
Cherokee
December 31st, 2012
1:16 pm
“I think the burden is upon you”
I think nations means nations… but I will pull out the ol concordance and do some more research
DannyX
December 31st, 2012
1:16 pm
“But I think you are misinterpreting this passage.”
It’s always, “But I think you are misinterpreting this passage,” when you want to ignore something you don’t like. Of course when it comes to gays you act like they will cause the world to come to an end even though Jesus said nothing about them. Funny how you stated earlier that you don’t see how you could call yourself a Christian if you supported abortion and gays but left out divorce.
Republican Christian conservatives worship rich people, Towncrier, can you provide any quotes where Jesus had anything good to say about the rich? Anything at all? How about negatives?
Btw, would you mind listing your sins that society needs protecting from?
td
December 31st, 2012
1:17 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 31st, 2012
1:13 pm
Dem Sen: ‘Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in’…
drudgey spam.
So? Does not mean it is not true.
I guess you can not handle the truth.
indigo
December 31st, 2012
1:17 pm
Granny – 12:32
If you’ve got something to say to me, say it plainly.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 31st, 2012
1:18 pm
TD, what bull. A 1995 comment talking about the assault weapons bill. But hey out of context you know, you BUILT THAT.
You wanna try again.
moonbat betty
December 31st, 2012
1:19 pm
“Republican Christian conservatives worship rich people”
really? And where did you hear this?
DannyX
December 31st, 2012
1:19 pm
“Carlos Castaneda”
Lol, there are a lot of Republicans that could use a good dose of the ‘medicine’ he took.
indigo
December 31st, 2012
1:19 pm
Ever since he was re-elected, cons here have been talking about “free stuff from Obama”.
And yet, I just can’t seem to get any of them to list what this “free stuff” consists of.
I wonder why that is?