Some travelin’ music to get us all home safely
We just spent a magical New England Christmas with my sister Lee Ann and her family, along with a gathering of the extended Bookman/Halunen clan. It was a perfect week, complete with a snowy Christmas Day, but life and home beckon. We’re now headed back to the ATL to kick off the new year.
My brother-in-law and host, Reino, is among other things an avid amateur guitar player. In fact, one of the highlights of the holiday came when Reino presented a miniature electric guitar, complete with miniature amp, to his 5-year-old grandson, Nathan, with promises of guitar lessons to come.
Reino’s favorite blues guitar player is the late Gary Moore of Northern Ireland, best known in this country for his stint with Thin Lizzy. So in tribute to Reino and Lee Ann, and in thanks for their great hospitality, here’s Mr. Moore, performing one of his solo hits:
– Jay Bookman
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TaxPayer
December 29th, 2012
2:56 pm
Gunpowder can be made by combining naturally the occurring substances, sulfer, potassium nitrate and coal in the proper proportions. – Captian Kirk
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:57 pm
td
Ok little fella. Let me know when all that stuff in the article you read is moving through Congress and the President says he will sign it.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
2:57 pm
The fiscal cliff boils down to who will pay for the collapse and gop rubber stamp congressional spending that blew out our deficit again.
TBS
December 29th, 2012
3:00 pm
td
Unless Kam is lying, the Daily Kos article doesn’t even meet your assertion when looking at the percentages. That “many” you state seems to be on the low end.
Maybe your “many” is a little different?
TBS
December 29th, 2012
3:02 pm
josef
Fair enough. I was just making an observation.
josef
December 29th, 2012
3:05 pm
ZamVet
I will go with that 45% with no real problem, but remember that that includes what we would call the moderately liberal. Still only some 20% could be considered “hard core” liberals. The same may be said of the hard core conservatives.
You give us way too much credit. The best that can be said is that we are a highly educated group and educated people tend to vote and define self as liberal-moderate. And remember, when we go saying liberal-conservative, we are not offering the alternative of “neither” or “moderate.”
Just my own eoiauo but I sometimes think we are our own worst enemies in that we, at least the Ashkenazim, cling to a shtettl mentality which forces us into ready made boxes and allows the goyim to continue the same process and, too often, use it against us.
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
3:05 pm
“Loyal to who was loyal to them, the Jews have been “at home” with the Democrats.”
I believe people should vote on principle and not upon patronage, tradition, looks, rhetorical ability and so on. There have been plenty of Americans who have bought nothing but a Ford or a Chevrolet because their daddy did that and his daddy before him did it as well – even when these two companies were producing junk compared to their Japanese or German rivals. Based on “history”, one would think that blacks would vote Republican if for NO other reason than a president wound up giving his life to free them from slavery. In short, I don’t believe intelligent people should be the slaves of tradition.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2012
3:08 pm
Intelligent people are rumored to know that today’s Republican Party is not the same as the Republican Party of Abraham Lincoln.
TBS
December 29th, 2012
3:09 pm
TC @ 2:55
I don’t read Daily Kos nor did I read that article. Yes there are those on the left who would ban all guns, but even that article based on Kam’s post doesn’t meet td’s generalizations and assertions. Is it possible that guns could be banned? Yes, but not probable and really a waste time to talk about gun control in that extreme. I lean left and own several myself
td and yourself both come from a right leaning perspective. No problem with that at all, except that td has to be one of the worst of the AJC bloggers in his either willful or ignorant broad brushing of those he wishes to demonize. It is nothing new from him. That is why I give him no quarter.
josef
December 29th, 2012
3:10 pm
TBS
“Fair enough. I was just making an observation.”
Fair enough back atcha, too. But, you do get the point? We get real thin-skinned when it hits home. And that’s why I do it. I have no more against sports than I do the church. It’s just, do the same thing, and watch them jump and deflect. Podunk Hollow State or Our Lady of Perpetual Motion, it’s the same thing at work. Deflect and say “as bad as we are, they’re worse.” Meanwhile, little is being done to confront the reality of the social problem.
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
3:11 pm
Cutting yours and all other Federal employees (including elected officials) pay by 10% would be a good start since none of you had to pay your fair share when the recession hit like most in the private sector did.
What’s this fair share thing? How do you calculate such a figure? Does that include my losses from my market funded retirement account? Can I include the lost income from my spouse? Do I get to include my deprecated real estate?
Now, when fair share is mentioned in reference to taxes, you and some of your like minded cohorts lapse into grand mals of epic proportion. So how dare you to fix your mouth to mention fair share in reference to my wallet when you don’t have the first clue as to what or where my finances come or go.
Oscar
December 29th, 2012
3:11 pm
Believe all the Jews I have met have been democrats. But then I have not met all the Jews. So I guess my poll would be considered unscientific. But a fair sampling.
Some have been very conservative – on many issues. But they voted for democrats.
Oscar
December 29th, 2012
3:12 pm
Bro – good response. Now take two asprin.
indigo
December 29th, 2012
3:14 pm
TaxPayer – 3:08
How many fervent gun owners will acknowledge that today’s America is vastly different from the one the framers of the 2nd Ammendment lived in?
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
3:14 pm
Oscar
No aspirin needed here.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
3:18 pm
…when you don’t have the first clue as to what or where my finances come or go.
Since all of your money is gubmint money, it all goes to a special place and doesn’t enter into the economy.
I noticed the other night at Taco Mac that you had a special gubmint waitress, while the rest of us had to make do with a free market waitress.
That’s why you had the minions with the palm frond fans and peeled grapes.
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
3:20 pm
“No problem with that at all, except that td has to be one of the worst of the AJC bloggers in his either willful or ignorant broad brushing of those he wishes to demonize.”
Well, in truth, I have been guilty of that as well as many of the posters here (on both the left and right – I will not name names as I am sure you realize I speak the truth). I think there can be no disputing the claim that it is liberals that want to increase gun control – some a little, some a lot. But it is, in my opinion, a really stupid knee-jerk reaction that has little to do with reality. There are plenty of studies that show that gun control, as instituted in the various ways it has been in different countries, has little provable or correlative effect on gun violence. I do not like what happened in Newtown any more than the next person – I hate it. And I would like to see if we can figure out what we can do to reduce such senseless violence. But I think gun control per se is a mindless application of a band-aid to someone dying of a heart attack. And is suspect people clamoring for gun control (and not anything else) are really only trying top push a political and ideological agenda.
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
3:21 pm
Kam
All this time I though that treatment was because of my melanin content.
td
December 29th, 2012
3:23 pm
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
3:11 pm
“t a time when workers’ pay and benefits have stagnated, federal employees’ average compensation has grown to more than double what private sector workers earn, a USA TODAY analysis finds.
Federal workers have been awarded bigger average pay and benefit increases than private employees for nine years in a row. The compensation gap between federal and private workers has doubled in the past decade.
Federal civil servants earned average pay and benefits of $123,049 in 2009 while private workers made $61,051 in total compensation, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis. The data are the latest available.
The federal compensation advantage has grown from $30,415 in 2000 to $61,998 last year.”
And we wonder why we can not balance a budget.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-08-10-1Afedpay10_ST_N.htm
josef
December 29th, 2012
3:24 pm
TC
You have your opinion of what should be, and I have no real objection to that. But what should be and what is are not always the same thing.
OSCAR
@ 3:11
Point. When we say “Jews” we are thinking, as we probably can be excused for, in American terms. Mizrachi, Russian, and Sephardic Jews in Israel are the backbone of the conservative power structure. Algerian and Tunisian Jews in France tend to be conservative. And so on…
getalife
December 29th, 2012
3:25 pm
“And we wonder why we can not balance a budget”
We did con and your party blew it again.
You cheered it on con.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
3:27 pm
BTW, it was the left that stood up against the gop blowing out our deficit cons.
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
3:30 pm
td
That USAToday article has been used to the point that it has no meaning. It’s been proven and disproved depending on the criteria used to measure the workers. Sounds like you have public sector worker envy. Feel free to put on some body armor and a handgun to fight people armed with rifles and tell me about pay and benefits after you put your ass on the line for a while.
td
December 29th, 2012
3:30 pm
getalife
December 29th, 2012
3:25 pm
“And we wonder why we can not balance a budget”
We did con and your party blew it again.
You cheered it on con.
Was it Clinton’s budget that was balanced or was it Newt’s House budget that was balanced that Clinton had to sign?
getalife
December 29th, 2012
3:32 pm
The newt shut down government and lost .
You should get the newt out of politics.
He is a complete failure.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
3:35 pm
It does not make sense to balance our budget so the gop can blow it again.
We should work on lowering the deficit not balancing the budget.
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
3:36 pm
One thing I think might help with gun some rampage killings is to make parents responsible if they, by not securing their guns, are guilty of a kind of reckless endangerment to the general public. But that would only help some. Another thing would to make people pay through the nose for selling guns to felons or those not legally permitted to own them (I’m talking life sentences). Another thing would be an all-out war on gangs in America.
I don’t hunt or own a gun. Does anyone know if there is a good reason or justification to hunt with a semi-automatic rifle? It is the muzzle velocity of rifles that make them very scary if they are semi-automatics – they do much, much more damage to a human body than do pistols.
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
3:41 pm
Wow. If true, then that is yet another pathetic instance of intolerance:
http://www.naturalnews.com/038484_Gandhi_quote_Facebook_censorship.html
td
December 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
3:36 pm
“I don’t hunt or own a gun. Does anyone know if there is a good reason or justification to hunt with a semi-automatic rifle?”
This is were you are being fooled by the gun control people. The 2nd Amendment was is no way written for the purpose of hunters. It was written so that the government would not even consider to be tyrannical. Please go and look at the quotes of our founding fathers about the 2nd Amendment. It is plain that they were very scared of a centralized government taking our freedoms and liberties away and having a well armed citizenry was a balance against the government.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
3:53 pm
Actually, the well regulated militias were the State militias but the sc ruled it was for all Americans.
The founders envisioned State militias to fight government tyranny.
Cherokee
December 29th, 2012
3:53 pm
And again, td, let’s think through your argument. You are supposing that a President – say one with a funny middle name – directs the military to forcibly move to take over the government, and then visits private homes to forcibly remove your weapons from you.
First, as someone else pointed out, the military would likely refuse to do that, and secondly, in the unlikely event that they did follow orders, your Bushmaster would be worthless against the forces of the United States military.
As Indigo pointed out, our society today is a little different than that of the founding fathers.
Oscar
December 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
td is correct about the 2nd amendment. It was all about arms for military use, not hunting.
which brings us to the present. How much good would semi-auto rifles do as military weapons today against mortors, machine guns, rocket launchers, etc.
josef
December 29th, 2012
3:59 pm
What’s all this whoop la about taking “our” guns and the legality thereof? Forget the guns, go for the individuals who have one. That’s kosher under the current state of war. Quo vadis habeas corpus?
josef
December 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
Any thoughts/opinions on what is going on in India?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
4:06 pm
Shorter td: WOLVERINES!
td
December 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
Cherokee
December 29th, 2012
3:53 pm
And again, td, let’s think through your argument. You are supposing that a President – say one with a funny middle name – directs the military to forcibly move to take over the government, and then visits private homes to forcibly remove your weapons from you.
You are making up crap now because I said no such thing. Obama is a lot of things like socialist but he us not stupid. Like you said the people in our military would remove him from office so fast if he gave that order his head would spin.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
Any thoughts/opinions on what is going on in India?
I imagine people there are living, working, breathing, eating, drinking, sleeping, loving, hating just the same as the people on the rest of this planet.
Just because we all enjoy Kam's "There's your sign" and/or "Drudgery spam"...
December 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
Chicago has hit a dismal milestone. A late night shooting has marked the city’s 500th homicide for the year.
40-year-old Nathaniel Jackson was shot on the city’s West Side around 9 p.m Thursday. He was pronounced dead shortly after midnight. The victim’s family has confirmed his identity.
Chicago Police say Jackson was shot in the head while standing outside a convenience store at Augusta Boulevard and Lavergne Avenue in the Austin Neighborhood.
One relative told WGN that Jackson had recently been released from jail and was living with a friend on the West Side.
Read more at http://wgntv.com/2012/12/28/chicago-reaches-500-homicides/#vQy67QjEsGYTPTUq.99
td
December 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
4:06 pm
Shorter td: WOLVERINES!
Let us take your guns first and foremost when we check for mentally ill people.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
4:12 pm
Drudgery spam?
Is that anything like a didgeridoo?
getalife
December 29th, 2012
4:13 pm
josef,
The protests in India scared their government..
They made signs to hang the rapists.
td
December 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
Oscar
December 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
td is correct about the 2nd amendment. It was all about arms for military use, not hunting.
which brings us to the present. How much good would semi-auto rifles do as military weapons today against mortors, machine guns, rocket launchers, etc.
Tell that to the people in Syria right now. Plus, you have to think about 100 millions citizens armed against less the a 1 million person military (and how many of them would defect). One more thing: It take three little parts to turn an AR-15 into a M-16.
Doggone/GA
December 29th, 2012
4:16 pm
“They made signs to hang the rapists”
They’re not “just” rapists anymore. They’re murderers.
Thomas Heyward Jr
December 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
Let the Federalies enjoy it……………………………………while they can.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
We are seeing the world hold their governments accountable.
We reelected them so we are a long way from holding our government accountable
We have the OWS, progressives purging DLC and now the tea party purging establishment gop.
It is a start.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
4:18 pm
“They’re not “just” rapists anymore. They’re murderers.”
True and they arrested six.
Doggone/GA
December 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
“True and they arrested six”
Including the bus driver
"drudgey spam" (France -- There but for the grace of God goes the U.S.)
December 29th, 2012
4:21 pm
France’s Constitutional Council on Saturday rejected a 75 percent upper income tax rate to be introduced in 2013 in a setback to Socialist President Francois Hollande’s push to make the rich contribute more to cutting the public deficit.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/29/us-france-tax-idUSBRE8BS05M20121229
Oscar
December 29th, 2012
4:22 pm
td – correct answer. In urban warfare, small arms fire is sufficient. But the key is getting enough of the army to defect.
Whoever the army supports will eventually win.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
4:23 pm
I guess the cons will call them freedom fries again.
josef
December 29th, 2012
4:24 pm
Unmentionable called it “spontaneous revulsion.” It will be interesting to see how the government reacts. Attacking the protesters does not bode well.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2012
4:27 pm
When tanks are outlawed only NRA members will have tanks. It’s their 2nd amendment right.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
December 29th, 2012
4:28 pm
moonbat: FWIW, Debs picked Florida by 21 over UGA.
Well, we can’t always be right all the time –i mean look at you, you said ROMNEY would win!
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Td: And just how did Congress, the VP, other political appointees and the Judicial branch get such a pay raise? Yes you are right if you guess another Obama executive order!!!!!
Td – you do know don’t you that Congress votes themselves pay raises almost every year? This goes back to probably the 1st Congress.
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Crier: Yes…witness (yet again) how even seemingly conservative blacks are slandered and put down when they don’t conform to the liberal group think
Dude, it has nothing to do with RGIII being Conservative and everything to do with the writer’s jealousy.
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TP: One thing that Democrats and Republicans have agreed on is cuts in federally funded pensions and benefits for active and retired persons except Congressmen.
If they want to “lead by example” then they should cut their own dang pay and cut their own pension funds. Why do the “little guys” always have to fall on the sword so that they can live high off the hog? People are sick of this crap.
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Josef: heh, heh! Sports and child molestation still verboten? Guess so.
People find it hard to think that old JoePa was not so innocent as they want to believe, (as far as knowing but not doing anything about it). Its comforting for some to believe that it would/could never happen by kindly coach Bud who always volunteers to coach T-Ball or whatever, but it does. More than they realize.
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Getalife: crier is Jew baiting
Is jewbaiting like master baiting but with uncut men?
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SoCoBro: To date, the only revenue that has been directed towards fiscal sanity was the pay freeze. The GOP has not contributed anything to actually deal with our fiscal issue. All they have done is to suggest spending cuts to further their ideology. So, as a federal worker, I say that you and the GOP can go to hell until you contribute something substantial to the debt. If you think it’s so big of an issue, then you and your cohorts pony up some revenue
Oh noze! SoCoBro is sounding “angry”! Ya’ll gonna get it now!
You go bro!
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Crier: There is absolutely no NT mandate for 1) a hierarchical priesthood (an established priesthood being an OT custom) and 2) not marrying
Ooooo Sister Frances Catherine and Father Joseph is gonna get you for that!
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Forward: Although Chicago had almost twice as many homicides 20 years ago as it did this year, the increase in violent deaths represents a backslide for a city that
So what you’re saying is that the murder rate in Chicago has went DOWN by half, yet you’re still bitching about it? Got it.
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
Tell that to the people in Syria right now. Plus, you have to think about 100 millions citizens armed against less the a 1 million person military (and how many of them would defect). One more thing: It take three little parts to turn an AR-15 into a M-16.
Generally, those who fantasize about war have never seen combat. Syria doesn’t have the right to bear arms in their constitution. Also, a M-16 is no match against a tomahawk cruise missile or a fully loaded A-10. Nevermind the fact that citizen governance is more of a protection against tyranny than any weapon that can be legally owned.
td
December 29th, 2012
4:33 pm
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
So I guess that means our Founding Fathers fantasized more then most because it was them that wrote the 2nd Amendment for just the day that the government might want to place unjust laws on the citizens and enforce them with a standing military.
Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.
—Noah Webster,
getalife
December 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
Syria is fighting for their freedom and they will win because their military defected.
Russia said assad will stay but he will cut and run like daffy.
josef
December 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
DDR
Whew! Thank G-d you’re here. glad that wasn’t you in Barcelona…
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/13/world/europe/spain-cocaine-breast-implant/?iref=obinsite
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
td
Yeah, and the founders just knew the future too, huh? Back in their time, the militia actually was the military as there was no permanent military then. Keep fellating your AR-15 in the hopes that it’s going to save you from tyranny. It’s funny reading these dreams about being Rambo against the U.S. government.
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
“Dude, it has nothing to do with RGIII being Conservative and everything to do with the writer’s jealousy.”
That is your opinion. But a number of people think otherwise. And the evidence does NOT support your view. Parker was questioning RGIII’s blackness for these reasons: 1) he has a white fiance 2) he might be a Republican 3) he seems to be acting like Tiger Woods. Parker was therefore feeling RGIII was “not one of us”. Read the transcript. Provide evidence for your opinion. And please don’t pretend there is not considerable peer pressure in black circles to conform because I know better. I know one sister in church who forfeited a scholarship at NYU becuase of the pressure to not “be white” (in getting an education).
“Ooooo Sister Frances Catherine and Father Joseph is gonna get you for that!”
It may anger them, but it is true.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
4:44 pm
Keep fellating your AR-15…
barking frog
December 29th, 2012
4:44 pm
josef
Do you think the Notre Dame coaching staff might be a hotbed of child molestation?
indigo
December 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
td
Are you aware that Thomas Jefferson, one of the authors of the 2nd Ammendment, feared the potential power of a standing Army and initially opposed the founding of The West Point Military Academy?
This strongly suggests the 2nd Ammendment was written out of fear of a large, standing professional Army.
It was not written for non-milita people.
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
4:48 pm
And please don’t pretend there is not considerable peer pressure in black circles to conform because I know better. I know one sister in church who forfeited a scholarship at NYU becuase of the pressure to not “be white” (in getting an education).
Not to nitpick, but one example does not extrapolate to the entire population. You may want to use a smaller brush when painting that meme.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
Fellating a loaded AR-15 could blow more than one head. Remember to practice AR-15 fellating safely. Refer to your NRA guidelines.
That Black Guy
December 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
KamAll this time I though that treatment was because of my melanin content.
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Bro, you know that was in it I didn’t get any peeled grapes or palm fronds I just have 1 cold wing and watered down beer. you didn’t even have to wipe your own chin you had a servent for that.
moonbat betty
December 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
Debs 4:28
Wrong. AGAIN
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
“Keep fellating your AR-15 in the hopes that it’s going to save you from tyranny. It’s funny reading these dreams about being Rambo against the U.S. government.”
A direct confrontation would almost certainly fail. But surely you know how successful guerrilla warfare can be – especially when vicious tactics are employed.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
4:52 pm
We take on the US government with elections not guns silly cons.
Oscar
December 29th, 2012
4:53 pm
Non-violent protests can be just as effective in government change. Happened in Egypt and India and effected change in Russia.
And a lot less bloody and destructive.
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
“Not to nitpick, but one example does not extrapolate to the entire population. You may want to use a smaller brush when painting that meme.”
Not to nitpick, but please show where I was explicitly extrapolating to “the entire population” Yeah…and so Parker, speaking on national television, was doing so only for himself?
barking frog
December 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
getalife
looks like the cons are going to need guns to put a president in the white house.
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
4:55 pm
TBG
That’s because it was first come first serve, and I beat you there.
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Towncrier
Guerilla warfare has the advantage when one side has home field advantage. Fighting the U.S. military on
josef
December 29th, 2012
4:55 pm
frog
Honestly? It wouldn’t surprise me in the least. I do appreciate the humor, but this is one of my more serious issues. It’s a sickness and a crime that permeates our society and we’re simply not dealing with it.
Maybe there’s a lesson for us in India.
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
4:56 pm
Dang it!!!!
Fighting the U.S. military on their home turf negates the home field advantage. That’s what I meant to type.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2012
4:57 pm
Cons build drones and then complain about their use.
pogo
December 29th, 2012
4:57 pm
“Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act of depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.”
This is a quote from Ghandi.
Only the most oppresive of governments wish to disarm their citizens. It only stands to reason that they would want the least amount of resistance whenever they finally establish whatever ideology they want the people to adhere to (whether it is popular or not). Does anyone really trust any politician? Especially one with an agenda (which they all have)?
Even Oliver Stone is now saying that Obama is transforming this country into an Orwellian state. Are people willing to give up all of their own choices to receive comfort and aid from the government? I think they are.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
frog,
They are fantasizing about taking on the military and “fellating” their guns.
Twisted and insane.
barking frog
December 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
josef
I agree and my suggestion was not humorous. The Catholic denial and
continuing coverup is sickening.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
5:01 pm
pogo,
“Are people willing to give up all of their own choices to receive comfort and aid from the government? ”
Giving up freedom because you were scared of a small gang named aq makes you a hypocrite pogo.
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
5:01 pm
“Fighting the U.S. military on their home turf negates the home field advantage. That’s what I meant to type.”
My point is not to claim “rebels” would unquestionably be victorious, but that the “tyrants” would pay a huge personal cost (if, for instance, their families were targeted) such that they would forever rue the day they decided to subvert the Constitution.
barking frog
December 29th, 2012
5:02 pm
Brosephus
and so you consider that the favoritism shown you may be due
to something in your genes…..
josef
December 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
BROSEPHUS
I don’t normally disagree with you, but on the “act white” one I have to say that it is a serious problem for educators, black and white alike. To be fair, it is also a problem facing teachers in many overwhelmingly white communities where the same sentiment is expressed to those who “act like they think they’re better.” You see the same among Indians, Latinos, and various other sub groups with a tradition of exclusion.
The problem is that the so-called “educated” all too often hold themselves above their “inferiors” as we see on this blog on a regular basis. They act so white it hurts. It’s what you and I would call uppity. But whatever the name we put on it, it’s a real problem.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
Overthrow-the-government violence porn.
Hilarious.
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
Towncrier
Care to show any adjectives, adverbs, or any other limitations to your “black circles” group that would show intent to not extrapolate to the entire population? For some reason, they don’t appear on my tablet screen. As to Parker, he was speaking for himself. He doesn’t speak for me, and I can tell you that all my in-laws had choice words for him too. I don’t know of a single Washington fan that agreed with him, and that includes the commenters on the WaPo too.
barking frog
December 29th, 2012
5:06 pm
josef
The problem is that the so-called “educated” all too often hold themselves above their “inferiors” as we see on this blog on a regular basis.
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it is due to the mélange in the milieu…
josef
December 29th, 2012
5:06 pm
FROG
The Catholic cover-up and denial is that indeed. Along with sports.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
5:08 pm
“Overthrow-the-government violence porn.”
The cons got crushed in the election so they are horrible sore losers.
barking frog
December 29th, 2012
5:08 pm
josef
The Catholic cover-up and denial is that indeed. Along with sports.
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and especially Catholic sports…
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
frog
Sometimes, being Brosephus is all it takes.
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Towncrier
Do you not think that targeting the families would not result in mass retribution given the weaponry available to military personnel?
getalife
December 29th, 2012
5:10 pm
“The problem is that the so-called “educated” all too often hold themselves above their “inferiors” as we see on this blog on a regular basis”
I base their credibility on what they got right in the last thirty years.
Most highly educated economists were dead wrong.
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
5:11 pm
“I don’t normally disagree with you, but on the “act white” one I have to say that it is a serious problem for educators, black and white alike.”
It is not “politically correct” to talk about it, but let’s not play the ostrich. I myself grew up without any real racial bias or prejudice and have had lots of black acquaintances, friends and roommates over the years. But I was oblivious to this “being white” thing until the day I was watching Travis Smiley interview a 15 year black girl who was an Olympic hopeful boxer and also a straight A student. He asked her if she got a lot of flack for “being white”. She said yes. And I said “WHAT DID HE JUST ASK?” I couldn’t believe my ears. So then I took it upon myself to ask good black friends if there was this kind of prejudice among some blacks. The sister I mentioned earlier replied “Ohhh, yeahhhh” and told me what she gave up because of it.
Obviously, not all blacks think this way. But to pretend a good number do not is just being dishonest in my opinion.
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
josef
I see your point, and I still say it’s not a population wide issue. That’s the problem I had with that statement. There is no limitations placed on it when I came from a community that stressed achievement to escape the surroundings.
Doggone/GA
December 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
“The problem is that the so-called “educated” all too often hold themselves above their “inferiors” as we see on this blog on a regular basis”
don’t leave out that the “inferiors” cooperate in that holding above
td
December 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
4:56 pm
Dang it!!!!
Fighting the U.S. military on their home turf negates the home field advantage. That’s what I meant to type.
Have you ever heard the term “mutually assured destruction”? It is the concept that has been used several times in history that basically says that the price of winning is not worth the cost. This is what our framers intent of the 2nd Amendment and it holds true today. It is highly unlikely that the current administration would impose tyrannical laws on the people because the results would be that there would be nothing left worth having after the conflict. Gun control nuts want to take away guns from the people to a point in the future that this assured destruction is not guaranteed and the tyranny could then start.
barking frog
December 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
What exactly is acting white?
indigo
December 29th, 2012
5:20 pm
Some years ago, it seemed that “acting white” was a real problem. I know that many high-profile black men and women would go to various schools and talk to the kids about it.
In recent years, it hasn’t been such a topic as before. At least I haven’t heard too much about it.
It may be that there are just some students, of all races, who will use whatever excuse they can find to keep from doing much schoolwork.
I certainly saw quite a few of those(all white) when I was in school.
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
“Care to show any adjectives, adverbs, or any other limitations to your “black circles” group that would show intent to not extrapolate to the entire population? For some reason, they don’t appear on my tablet screen.”
I have an MA in English. I know of no usage of the word “circles” that applies to an entire population rather than one or more subsets of that population. Care to show otherwise? See my post @ 5:11
“As to Parker, he was speaking for himself.”
I don’t he thought so. Else why would he be so bold as to suggest that RGIII was “not one of us” but a “cornball brother”? I can’t imagine why he would say such a thing if he didn’t have some black friends or family that thought the same way.
“He doesn’t speak for me, and I can tell you that all my in-laws had choice words for him too.”
Amen. Glad to hear it. Nor would I have guessed he was speaking for you.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
5:26 pm
Acting white?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YUiBBltOg4
josef
December 29th, 2012
5:29 pm
TC
You took what I said out of context. I went on to say that this is not something confined to one specific racial demographic.
BROSEPHUS
I agree with much of what you’re making a point of. To broadbrush the whole socio-economic-ethnic-racial group is a serious error in confronting the issue. The point I am making has to do with what happens with so many AFTER they make it. There is too often an elitism that takes hold and the sense of responsibility to those left behind is not there as strong as it should be.
I do not want in the least to be seen as demeaning ALL those who are now successful, but far too many of US (and note the first person plural) make sure we keep our distance and offering not nearly enough of encouragement. We MUST create, encourage and support mentors.
We have to, as Unmentionable says, go back to the Rez in a psychological mindset as well as the real sense once we’ve “made it.” Way too few of us are willing to do that. As he puts it, to make it out here, a lot of compromises have been made and, well, we don’t want to admit that.
barking frog
December 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
Kamchak
Python is not acting white so much as acting silly but that could
be the same thing.