Some travelin’ music to get us all home safely
We just spent a magical New England Christmas with my sister Lee Ann and her family, along with a gathering of the extended Bookman/Halunen clan. It was a perfect week, complete with a snowy Christmas Day, but life and home beckon. We’re now headed back to the ATL to kick off the new year.
My brother-in-law and host, Reino, is among other things an avid amateur guitar player. In fact, one of the highlights of the holiday came when Reino presented a miniature electric guitar, complete with miniature amp, to his 5-year-old grandson, Nathan, with promises of guitar lessons to come.
Reino’s favorite blues guitar player is the late Gary Moore of Northern Ireland, best known in this country for his stint with Thin Lizzy. So in tribute to Reino and Lee Ann, and in thanks for their great hospitality, here’s Mr. Moore, performing one of his solo hits:
– Jay Bookman
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DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
December 29th, 2012
11:19 am
Did not see Django, yet — but can’t wait to see this one when it comes out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J50vA5VLR6k
JamVet
December 29th, 2012
11:21 am
Wrong choice of adverbs in my last! Redact to read successively.
Debbie @10:54, who cares?! And you are spot on about the bowl season – Big Green!
As for the Cotton Bowl, I went with A&M, but don’t feel all that confident about the choice, Freddy…
I just want to see the Huskers play well. They have been like the girl with the curl on her forehead this year. (When she was good, she was very good indeed, but when she was bad she was horrid!)
It took Devaney eight years to get his first crown, and the legendary Tom Osborne, 22 years! I suspect that next year, Pelini will have them knocking on the door of a sixth title.
My (useless!) prediction: NU – 35, UGA 31.
i tell myself I’ll try a little harder next time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwZ4OOWPTLI
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
December 29th, 2012
11:26 am
Morning Jam!
I think you’ve got Dem Dawgs a little more credit than they deserve.
Remember, Bo was in the SEC for years before he went to NU — he knows Richt’s style and he knows how Richt plays — the score should be more like
NU 55 DemDawgs 10
IMO
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
December 29th, 2012
11:28 am
You’ve given them a little more credit……..
Jeesh! I need coffee — either that or more Typing 101 classes!
Do they still teach typing in school – or now with the computer age and people just typing as they please is the subject “Moot”?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
December 29th, 2012
11:32 am
Well, I’m hoping Redneck has stocked up all the beer shelves really good for the weekend and the big celebrations coming up ’cause I have to go out and make a liquor store run.
And the oddest thing has happened, even though my county is not dry on sundays anymore, i still have the “go to the liquor store on Saturday” mentality!
Oh well, later gators!
TBS
December 29th, 2012
11:35 am
DDR
They were having a good time being Kam’s groupies for sure…..
TBS
December 29th, 2012
11:42 am
DDR
To an extent I have to agree with you about my Dawgs.
CMR doesn’t have that killer instinct that the top coaches have and that is one of the reasons the Dawgs have not and may not play in the “Big Game” while he is there.
Nice enough guy, but just an average coach who can get good players to the school, but unable to harness the talent like it is currently done at Bama and LSU
moonbat betty
December 29th, 2012
11:45 am
FWIW,
Debs picked Florida by 21 over UGA.
My guess is Ga won’t be hyped for Neb and Neb will play with a mission, so it will most likely be close.
moonbat betty
December 29th, 2012
11:48 am
Oh yeah, and JV said Auburn would beat UGA…
TBS
December 29th, 2012
11:49 am
Moonbat
My prediction
GA: 35 to 27
moonbat betty
December 29th, 2012
11:51 am
That sounds like a good prediction, TBS.
td
December 29th, 2012
11:52 am
A little math prospective to put this mess in terms that everyone should be able to understand
US national revenue: 2,170,000,000,000
Federal Budget: 3,820,000,000,000
New Debt: 1,650,000,000,000
National debt: 14,271,000,000,000
Recent budget cuts: 35,500,000,000
Now let us remove 8 zeros and pretend it is a household budget:
Annual family income: $21,700
Money family spent: $38,200
New debt on the credit card: $16,500
Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710
Total household budget cuts so far: $38.50
New revenue coming in this next year (Obama proposed tax increase): $80.00
getalife
December 29th, 2012
11:55 am
SEC football wins the Bowl games.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
11:58 am
td,
Yeah households spend trillions on failed occupations.
Silly.
TBS
December 29th, 2012
12:07 pm
Jam
I think OSU will be the team to beat in the Big 10 next year and one of the overall teams to beat.
Not sure if Meyer is on the level of the best hired gun and coach in the land, Saban, however he is pretty damn good.
GTBob
December 29th, 2012
12:10 pm
Go back home where you belong you liberal damn Yankee!
moonbat betty
December 29th, 2012
12:22 pm
GTBob,
You are very rude.
Please go to El Paso.
JamVet
December 29th, 2012
12:23 pm
JV said Auburn would beat UGA…
Not true, bet. I said I wouldn’t be surprised. Which was indeed extraordinary, given how abysmal the Warn’t eagles are!
Notre Dame vs. Ohio State would have been a lot more fun…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fEkYxRCl_c
Soothsayer
December 29th, 2012
12:27 pm
The United States will collect in 2012 approximately $1.5 trillion dollars (minus Social Security and Medicare payroll deductions).
The United States will spend in 2012 approximately $2.847 trillion dollars broken down thusly:
NON-MILITARY
$1.093 trillion
• Health/Human Services
• Soc. Sec. Administration (not payments)
• Education Dept.
• Food/Nutrition programs
• Housing & Urban Dev.
• Labor Dept.
• Tax Credits (lower incomes)
• other human resources
$.218 trillion
• Treasury, incl. 20% Interest on debt ($95B)
• Government personnel
• Justice Dept.
• State Dept. (partial)
• International Affairs
• NASA (50%)
• Judicial
• Legislative
• Allowances (proposals)
• other general govt.
$.164 trillion
• Agriculture
• Interior
• Transportation
• Homeland Security ($10B)
• HUD
• Commerce
• Energy (non-military)
• Environmental Protection
• Nat. Science Fdtn.
• Army Corps Engineers
• Fed. Comm. Commission
• other physical resources
MILITARY
$.503 trillion
• Veterans’ Benefits $123 billion
• Interest on national debt $380 billion (80% est. to be created by military spending)
$.869 trillion
Total Outlays DoD $707 billion:
• Military Personnel $159 billion
• Operation & Maint. $302 billion
• Procurement $134 billion
• Research & Dev. $78 billion
• Construction $19 billion
• Family Housing $3 billion
• DoD misc. $12 billion
Non-DoD military spending includes:1
• Retiree Pay/Healthcare $67 billion
• DoE nuke weapons/clean up $20 billion
• NASA (50%) $9 billion
• Internl. Security Asst. $16 billion
• Homeland Secur. (military) $36 billion
• State Dept. (partial) $4 billion
• FBI military $7 billion
• other $3 billion
TOTAL MILITARY: $1.372 trillion
So, virtually all of the tax money collected in this country goes to fund the military.
indigo
December 29th, 2012
12:31 pm
Soothsayer
And, don’t forget, our Military is (gasp) SOCIALIST.
Our Govt. owns it and runs it completely.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
12:33 pm
Let me be clear, you cons blew it.
You cheerleaded with w to blow out the deficit.
No credibility so zip it.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think
December 29th, 2012
12:34 pm
Sooth,
And don’t forget Congress gets a raise in pay on the 1st…
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think
December 29th, 2012
12:39 pm
Yep, Congress gets apay raise and as far as Congress getting their act together…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ulXt7AJBM
…at least the song is good…
Soothsayer
December 29th, 2012
12:41 pm
Here’s the link for the above, if you want to look at it.
td
December 29th, 2012
12:44 pm
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am…I think
December 29th, 2012
12:34 pm
Sooth,
And don’t forget Congress gets a raise in pay on the 1st…
And just how did Congress, the VP, other political appointees and the Judicial branch get such a pay raise? Yes you are right if you guess another Obama executive order!!!!!
indigo
December 29th, 2012
12:53 pm
td – 12:44
So will all the good Republicans in Congress turn down their pay raise?
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
12:58 pm
td @ 12:44
Your ODS is flaring up. Congressional pay raises have no connection to the Executive Branch at all. Their raises come by way of a resolution passed years ago that was designed to make their raises automatic. That vote took place even before Obama joined the Senate. Education is not the enemy of progress.
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
1:03 pm
Afternoon all. Nice day for a walk in the park.
“So, virtually all of the tax money collected in this country goes to fund the military.”
I’m curious: how does $1.372 / $2.847 trillion translate into “virtually all of the tax money collected in this country”? Are you saying that the military is funded out of tax revenues and everything else is funded with borrowed money?
Thanks for the breakdown, incidentally.
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
1:06 pm
Ok. I googled “Obama pay raise” and I see where he issued an EO ending the pay freeze. I guess that is ordering a raise in the mind of some on the right based on the hits from right leaning sources from that same search.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
1:09 pm
The con children blew out our deficit again to leave the adults to fix it again.
The key to a more balanced budget is never ever let the con children blow out the deficit again.
It is elementary school math.
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
1:12 pm
http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-orders-raise-biden-members-congress-federal-workers_692223.html
President Barack Obama issued an executive order to end the pay freeze on federal employees, in effect giving some federal workers a raise.
[...]
“A new executive order has been issued providing for a new pay schedule beginning ‘on the first day of the first applicable pay period beginning after March 27, 2013,’” reports FedSmith.com. “The pay raise will generally be about 1/2 of 1%.”
1811, etc.
December 29th, 2012
1:12 pm
Mike Huckabee (Guns and Culture)
“I’ve said some controversial things from time to time, but none which prompted such a backlash as when I stated that the horrific shooting in CT of school children and teachers couldn’t be blamed on God because we’ve systematically marginalized God out of our culture by removing Him from all aspects of the public square.
The vicious attacks that have resulted, most of all of which are based on total ignorance of what I actually said have actually validated my point, but I’m quite certain that was not the intent of both the professional and amateur critics who have demanded everything from my being banned from ever speaking in public again, or wished me a slow and painful death.
On that alone, I wish to acknowledge that the left has again shown that it defines tolerance and diversity as being tolerant only of that with which it agrees, and diverse only to include slight shades of the orthodoxy of liberalism to which they adhere. They abhor censorship of their own profanity, obscenities, or graphic violence, but are the first to demand that a voice that invokes the name of God to be silenced.
A specific act of violence is rarely the result of a specific single act of a culture that prompts it. In other words, I would never say that simply taking prayer and Bible reading from our institutions or silencing Christmas carols is the direct cause of a mass murder. That would be ludicrous and simplistic. But the cause and effect we see in the dramatic changes of what our children are capable of is a part of a cultural shift from a God-centered culture to a self-centered culture.
We have glorified uninhibited self-expression and individualism and are shocked that we have a generation of loners. We have insisted on a society where everyone gets a trophy and no one loses and act surprised that so many kids lack self-esteem and feel like losers. We dismiss the notion of natural law and the notion that there are moral absolutes and seemed amazed when some kids make it their own morality to kill innocent children. We diminish and even hold in contempt the natural family of a father and mother creating and then responsibly raising the next generation and then express dismay that kids feel no real connection to their families or even the concept of a family.
We scoff at the need for mothers and fathers to make it their priority to train their children to be strong in spirit and soul and responsible for right and wrong and exalt instead the virtue of having things and providing expensive toys, games, and electronics that substitute for parenting and then don’t understand why our kids would rather have ear buds dangling from their ears, fingers attaching to a smart phone, and face attached to a computer screen than to have an extended conversation with their family at dinner.
And we don’t teach them there is a Creator God who sets immutable rules, a God who is knowable, and to whom we are ultimately responsible. Instead we teach that God was not involved in our origins, that our very lives are biological happenstances and in fact are disposable should they be inconvenient to us, and that any outrageous behaviors are not sin, but disorders for which we should be excused and accommodated.
I realize my viewpoint sounds out-dated and archaic, but when that world view was the foundation of our nation’s social contract, we got in trouble at school for talking in class, chewing gum, pulling a girl’s pigtails, or slouching in our school desks. We took guns to school, to be sure, but they were in the gun racks of our trucks and we used them to hunt before and after school. It never occurred to us to use them to murder our teachers and fellow students.
So yes, I can stand the contempt and criticism of the left. I’ll gladly accept their scorn as they substitute creative language with a steady stream of profanity-laced tirades that I’m an idiot, a throwback to the past, and a person who should be forever silenced.
But when we as a nation feared God, we didn’t fear that a 20 year old with a high powered rifle would gun down our children in their schoolrooms.”
Mike Huckabee
getalife
December 29th, 2012
1:14 pm
Yeah, a con talking head on fox is important.
Not.
1811, etc.
December 29th, 2012
1:21 pm
“The Secret Knowledge (On the Dismantling of American Culture)”
A great read ……… written by well known American author and playwright David Mamet (former ultra liberal turned conservative).
” ……… Mamet presents a criticism of his one-time liberal ideologies and opines on several current political and social issues.”
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
1:23 pm
Nice quotation from Huckabee, 1811.
“On that alone, I wish to acknowledge that the left has again shown that it defines tolerance and diversity as being tolerant only of that with which it agrees, and diverse only to include slight shades of the orthodoxy of liberalism to which they adhere.”
Yes…witness (yet again) how even seemingly conservative blacks are slandered and put down when they don’t conform to the liberal group think:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-57559197/espn-commentator-rob-parker-calls-robert-griffin-iii-a-cornball-brother/
“They abhor censorship of their own profanity, obscenities, or graphic violence, but are the first to demand that a voice that invokes the name of God to be silenced.”
Isn’t that the truth? Computer-generated child pornography (who here wants to argue that it has any “redeeming” value) is protected free speech but we must never mention God in a classroom.
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
1:29 pm
“The Secret Knowledge (On the Dismantling of American Culture)”
I have not read this book. I read his Village Voice essay, “Why I Am No Longer a Brain-Dead Liberal” a while back. There are other conservative voices who fit that mold, such as Micheal Medved and Dennis Prager (who are both Jewish and once dyed-in-the-wool liberals).
td
December 29th, 2012
1:30 pm
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
12:58 pm
td @ 12:44
Your ODS is flaring up. Congressional pay raises have no connection to the Executive Branch at all. Their raises come by way of a resolution passed years ago that was designed to make their raises automatic. That vote took place even before Obama joined the Senate. Education is not the enemy of progress.
And Obama put a freeze on those raises under the guise of fiscal sanity (election year ploy) and now all of a sudden he releases them by executive order when we are about to go over the cliff.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-orders-raise-biden-members-congress-federal-workers_692223.html
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
1:33 pm
“And Obama put a freeze on those raises under the guise of fiscal sanity (election year ploy) and now all of a sudden he releases them by executive order when we are about to go over the cliff.”
I am not at all convinced that Obama and many in Congress see spending as a problem. Actions speak louder than words – especially words emanating from the mouths of politicians.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
1:36 pm
California did it:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-steinberg-fiscal-cliff-20121228,0,6923808.story
getalife
December 29th, 2012
1:38 pm
We will clean up your mess again cons.
Try working credibility because you have none.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2012
1:38 pm
One thing that Democrats and Republicans have agreed on is cuts in federally funded pensions and benefits for active and retired persons except Congressmen.
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
1:39 pm
“California did it:”
I met and shook the hand of Jerry Brown once, back in 1980 when I was in college
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
1:44 pm
Oh, keeping god is schools would have prevented the recent shooting?
Please tell me how many cases of child molestation he’s prevented in churches.
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
1:45 pm
“One thing that Democrats and Republicans have agreed on is cuts in federally funded pensions and benefits for active and retired persons except Congressmen.”
“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”
getalife
December 29th, 2012
1:46 pm
crier,
You met the man that saved California from a default.
He used that dirty word called compromise.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
1:49 pm
It is pretty sick for a “Christian” to blame God for a massacre.
josef
December 29th, 2012
1:50 pm
K’CHAK
“Please tell me how many cases of child molestation he’s prevented in churches.”
Or sports.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
1:53 pm
Or sports.
Is god on the playing field?
What position does he play…?
His batting average?
Completion/reception/tackles/sacks/yards per carry stats?
josef
December 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
TOWNCRIER
“..such as Micheal Medved and Dennis Prager (who are both Jewish and once dyed-in-the-wool liberals).”
Ok, I’ll bite. What is their being Jewish got to do with it?
josef
December 29th, 2012
1:57 pm
K’CHAK
hdeh, heh! Sports and child molestation still verboten? Guess so. Sports nuts are a curious lot.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2012
1:57 pm
After scanning rather quickly last evening’s posts, I can only surmise that the con bloggers miss the rest of us something terrible after we sign off for the night. Awwwww. Isn’t that sweet.
Doggone/GA
December 29th, 2012
1:59 pm
“Awwwww. Isn’t that sweet”
It is amusing…what they say when they think no one is “listening”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
2:00 pm
It is amusing…what they say when they think no one is “listening”
They are BUI.
Blogging under the influence.
josef
December 29th, 2012
2:01 pm
DOGGONE, TAXI
I was there last p.m.off to the side and listening…it was all I could do to keep quiet, but it WAS a late night chuckle…
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
2:02 pm
Afternoon, josef. If you weren’t such an “adolescent Jewish wannabee”
, it might have occurred to you that 1) Mamet is himself Jewish and 2) JV has made it an obsession of his on this blog to brag that most Jews are liberal (and so my mention of the ethnicity of these three liberals-turned-conservatives serves as counterpoint to that).
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:02 pm
Doggone and Kam
They are attention graving rants. One of them from last night was on one for two days.
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:03 pm
craving
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
2:08 pm
BOTH
Exactly.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
2:08 pm
crier is Jew baiting.
God played for the Jets and the coach benched him
josef
December 29th, 2012
2:11 pm
TC
I avoided mentioning the wannabe one!
Seriously, though, I don’t quite get that thing about “Jewish” liberals. About 20% are conservatives. About 20% are liberals, and about 60% are somewhere in between…just like the rest of the population. It’s just that the liberal element does, for historical reasons, tend to be more concentrated in what we consider the centers of Jewish presence in the US and the conservatives are more spread out in the hinterlands.
td
December 29th, 2012
2:15 pm
If you think the left is not coming after ALL guns then you are deceiving yourself. Here is a step by step long term plan to accomplish their mission.
“The only way we can truly be safe and prevent further gun violence is to ban civilian ownership of all guns. That means everything. No pistols, no revolvers, no semiautomatic or automatic rifles. No bolt action. No breaking actions or falling blocks. Nothing. This is the only thing that we can possibly do to keep our children safe from both mass murder and common street violence.”
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/21/1172661/-How-to-Ban-Guns-A-step-by-step-long-term-process#
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
2:17 pm
dailykos.com
There’s your sign.
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:19 pm
josef
I know you like to deflect to sports when “the church” is brought up in regards to child molestation issues and surely there is validity to your point, however what has and could still be taking place within the upper reaches of the Catholic Church is deplorable.
As vile as what took place at Penn State, it doesn’t even come close to moving priests to other parishes to prey on other kids, pay offs, etc.
Not denying what goes on in certain areas of sports, but you deflect from the church so quick, one would think you won a gold medal in the 100 meters.
just being EOI, but deflecting to sports doesn’t absolve any given church, members, priests pastors, rabbis nor more than anyone is absolved at a school that knew of a coaches “secret”
Of course you have never said that it does absolve the church, but you are quick to change the subject each time the issue comes up.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
2:20 pm
Dognappings up 70% nationwide…
The solution is obvious, just ban dogs.
Oh, and drudgey spam.
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:21 pm
td
How many Democratic Congressman and Senators or even staff members were quoted in that Daily Kos article?
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
2:23 pm
“Seriously, though, I don’t quite get that thing about “Jewish” liberals. About 20% are conservatives. About 20% are liberals, and about 60% are somewhere in between…just like the rest of the population.”
I hope that is true, but the Jewish voting record says otherwise. I think the most votes a Republican candidate for president received since WWII is Reagan at like 38% (if memory serves me). But, in any case, JV makes a much bigger deal of it here so it’s useful to point out prominent Jews who has undergone a conversion of sorts. If you listen to what they say, there is a lot of similarity in their stories.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
2:24 pm
BOTH
Did you see the poll and the results at the bottom of that dailykos (a decidedly “liberal” site) page?
td
December 29th, 2012
2:25 pm
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:21 pm
td
How many Democratic Congressman and Senators or even staff members were quoted in that Daily Kos article?
How many of them go to the yearly Daily kos meeting with politicians? Read the article, it is a long term plan and the first steps are included in the Feinstein bill.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2012
2:25 pm
Ban Dogs! Now that’s just being downright mean.
Doggone/GA
December 29th, 2012
2:27 pm
“Ban Dogs! Now that’s just being downright mean”
It was a big movement just before the 2nd WW. The usefulness of war dogs did a lot to push it into the hinterlands, but it’s never gone away.
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:27 pm
td
So the answer is none?
thanks
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:29 pm
Kam
Didn’t see it. td has read more daily kos articles than I ever have or will, but of course that goes for the blaze, breitbart, wnd as well.
Not saying I never peruse right wing sites, but using them as a broad brush to paint all those on the right imo is as stupid as posting daily kos or move on as some depiction of all those on the left.
getalife
December 29th, 2012
2:32 pm
td actually believes everything he reads is going to happen.
The most gullible con on this blog.
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:33 pm
td
Did the Daily Kos run any articles about over sampling like you were posting from breitbart, blaze, morris ,etc?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
2:33 pm
BOTH
Poll
A total gun ban in the next 10 years?
YES!
4% 60 votes
No.
88% 1227 votes
Pie is delicious. Even raspberry. I was once told that raspberry was Communist pie.
7% 100 votes
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
2:34 pm
td
And Obama put a freeze on those raises under the guise of fiscal sanity (election year ploy) and now all of a sudden he releases them by executive order when we are about to go over the cliff.
To date, the only revenue that has been directed towards fiscal sanity was the pay freeze. The GOP has not contributed anything to actually deal with our fiscal issue. All they have done is to suggest spending cuts to further their ideology. So, as a federal worker, I say that you and the GOP can go to hell until you contribute something substantial to the debt. If you think it’s so big of an issue, then you and your cohorts pony up some revenue.
indigo
December 29th, 2012
2:34 pm
td
Banning all guns really is the only way to stop this killing madness.
But, don’t worry, little buddy.
We have the best Congress money can buy and the NRA will make certain gun banning NEVER happens.
josef
December 29th, 2012
2:35 pm
TBS
Like I said, sports nuts are a curious lot. Just like the churches…sssshhhh…what you don’t know won’t hurt you. I could just as easily have said the police forces, the boy scouts or any number of others. But, sports? It’s funny to me…
Penn State is just the tip of the iceberg…but, hey, out of sight, out of mind…
td
December 29th, 2012
2:37 pm
Deflect, dodge and change the subject when one of your own actually puts on paper what many of you progressives really think but are afraid to say.
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:38 pm
josef
I didn’t deny it. In my post I said it happens. Again, you deflect as quick as possible when the issue comes up regarding churches. That is all I am saying
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
td
So one article from the Daily Kos now represents all those on the left?
Are you the that stupid, just being a RICHARD or what?
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
“I know you like to deflect to sports when “the church” is brought up in regards to child molestation issues and surely there is validity to your point, however what has and could still be taking place within the upper reaches of the Catholic Church is deplorable.”
First off all, child molestation has nothing intrinsically to do with church, sports or any other thing. It happens everywhere and in almost every conceivable context. Secondly, it is common for people to confuse religion and religious institutions with Christianity and God. The Catholic church (not necessarily all of its members) has distorted the scriptures more than any other denomination over the years. There is absolutely no NT mandate for 1) a hierarchical priesthood (an established priesthood being an OT custom) and 2) not marrying. Humans are, among other things, sexual beings. Marriage is the Biblically proper means of satisfying sexual needs and desires. Paul writes that few people have the “gift” of being able to remain celibate and that people ought to marry so that they will not be slaves of sexual passion. It is no surprise, therefore, that we you violate sound teaching like this, you get bad results. Indeed, it has been suggested that the priesthood (because of its rigid demands for celibacy) has become a kind of magnet for those imprinted with homosexual orientations. I don’t know if that is true, but it is certainly plausible.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
2:40 pm
…puts on paper what many of you progressives really think but are afraid to say.
That poll result belies your claim.
td
December 29th, 2012
2:40 pm
Brosephus™
December 29th, 2012
2:34 pm
Cutting yours and all other Federal employees (including elected officials) pay by 10% would be a good start since none of you had to pay your fair share when the recession hit like most in the private sector did.
td
December 29th, 2012
2:43 pm
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
td
So one article from the Daily Kos now represents all those on the left?
Are you the that stupid, just being a RICHARD or what?
Dam you do not know how to read. I did not say all. I said many. Reading comprehension is your friend and makes you look less stupid.
Oscar
December 29th, 2012
2:43 pm
Who wrote that dailykos.com article about guns? Adoph Hitler?
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:44 pm
td
Let’s make this simple for you to understand. Is it fair to associate you with everything said or written by someone on the right even if you are not in agreement with it or how stupid it might be?
If not, then why do you do it for those on the left a good percentage of the time on the AJC blog?.
If I had a nickle for every asinine assumption and incorrect generalization you have made on this blog, I would be a trillionaire.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
2:45 pm
I did not say all. I said many.
4% is not “many.”
Oscar
December 29th, 2012
2:45 pm
td – What’s a fair share. Not getting a raise for five years sounds like a fair share to me.
Not to mention the workers terminated.
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:46 pm
td
So how did you extrapolate many from one article? Did they site all those in the US who call themselves Democrat, liberal, progressive, etc. Was it just those who vote in general elections, mid terms, both or included those who don’t vote?
Define many for us?
Oscar
December 29th, 2012
2:48 pm
Should we ban all dogs, or just certain kind of dogs. Those with multi=clips. And is the first step to register all dogs.
All lost or sold dogs must be reported.
And how about those roving cats. Are they next.
"Forward" slogans work well, don't they???
December 29th, 2012
2:48 pm
The rising homicide toll — 500 as of Friday, a 17 percent increase in slayings over last year — has been a looming shadow over Chicago, plaguing residents and the city’s leadership for much of the year.
Although Chicago had almost twice as many homicides 20 years ago as it did this year, the increase in violent deaths represents a backslide for a city that Mayor Rahm Emanuel has said he wants to move forward. And with Chicago’s homicide rate exceeding those in some other major U.S. cities such as Los Angeles and New York, Emanuel, ever mindful of the city and his administration’s image, has seen the city’s violence attract unwanted national attention.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-chicago-violence-2012-20121230,0,186137.story
josef
December 29th, 2012
2:49 pm
TC
You make the assumption that both the GOP and Dems have no “moderates.” Now, of that c 60% somewhere in between the “liberal” and “conservative” extremes, the majority of them do tend strongly to vote for the Democrats.
As I said earlier, there are historical reasons for this. The first is that the Dems from the earliest days in the South welcomed the Jews into the party and elected them on a regular basis up through the early national period. The GOP, and outgrowth of the Know Nothings, was marked by a strong element of anti Semitism, which reached the point of persecution during the Civil War. The established American Jewish community saw the Democrats as their protectors, if you will, and when it came time to assimilate the massive influx of Eastern Europeans, the “unwashed masses” were given a bath by their established co religionists and brought into the D party. Heavily influenced as they were by the Bundist political expressions of their homelands, they were relatively comfortable there. Secondly, the GOP did not do a whole lot during the Reconstruction period to undo the damage done earlier finding few Jewish converts among the established.
Loyal to who was loyal to them, the Jews have been “at home” with the Democrats.
Oscar
December 29th, 2012
2:50 pm
I think Chicago criminals get their illegal guns from Georgia gun shops and gun shows. Shop gun sales made without background checks and hold straw man purchasers accountable.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 29th, 2012
2:51 pm
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-chicago-violence-2012-20121230,0,186137.story
Thrice posted drudgey spam.
td
December 29th, 2012
2:51 pm
TBS
December 29th, 2012
2:46 pm
td
So how did you extrapolate many from one article?
Just the first article I have read with a plan. I have been reading blogs and FB for years and have seen many on the left (normal voters) post very similar remarks. Senator Feinsteins own bill starts the national registration process in the article and Hillary has said herself that we should either ban bullets or tax them to the point that no one can afford them.
JamVet
December 29th, 2012
2:51 pm
Jews were at the forefront of America’s union, feminist and civil-rights movements.
And jonix’s numbers are wrong.
We are are overwhelmingly urban, educated and very, very liberal. In 2008, 45% of surveyed American Jewish voters described themselves as “liberal,” versus about 12% who described themselves as “conservative”.
And our ethos trumps even money. (Well, most of the time!)
The last group I want to pal around with is the ban abortions (& execute the women who have them, per td), ban homosexuals, ban labor unions, ban atheism crowd. Who are armed to the teeth and angry.
It’s not rocket science.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03YUgHAshSo
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2012
2:52 pm
Guns don’t molest, people molest.
josef
December 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
TBS
You call it deflection. I call it let’s make sure we get ‘em ALL. Between you, me, and the fence post, the reason I, as you say, deflect, is to bring up “why are we ONLY talking about or centering ON the church?” I choose sports because, like the church, it is “sacred,” the secular religion if you will. And, interestingly, its adherents come out with the same arguments and “deflection” as does the church when it is centered on.
Towncrier
December 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
“So how did you extrapolate many from one article?”
The article in question was written under a pseudonym and the author (judging from his profile) isn’t of much account. It is an expression of free speech, pure and simple. Just like people can call for the ouster of various ethnic groups from America, so too can people call for the confiscation of all guns. Both are nutty but they can say what they want.