Christmas morning smiles all around

Welcome to Savannah's first Christmas, with a proud great-grandpa looking on.

Welcome to Savannah's first Christmas, with a proud great-grandpa looking on.

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Georgia

December 25th, 2012
8:45 am

Merry Christmas!

Oscar

December 25th, 2012
8:59 am

Merry Christmas to all.

Kurtis Blow

December 25th, 2012
9:02 am

stands for decibels

December 25th, 2012
9:05 am

some old school Xmas soul, free download, digging it now at chez sfd…

christmas.soundopinions.org/

enjoy!

Bob Loblaw

December 25th, 2012
9:10 am

Merry Christmas, Everybody!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 25th, 2012
9:22 am

Paul

December 25th, 2012
9:24 am

Merry Christmas, all!!!

And especially to happy little Savannah and Grampa Jay!

(The young-uns are still zonked in this house but I’m ready to get started with our traditional Christmas breakfast: tamales!!!)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 25th, 2012
9:34 am

Tamales in the a.m.?

Hangover food.

Rightwing troll

December 25th, 2012
9:50 am

Merry Christmas one and all!… Looking like I’m going to have to make a battery run here momentarily… The house is still full of the sounds of excited children, all is well…

Just Saying..

December 25th, 2012
10:00 am

Oh, Savannah…!!

catlady

December 25th, 2012
10:06 am

Best wishes to everyone!

Brosephus™

December 25th, 2012
10:11 am

Merry Christmas to all… Here’s a site that Savannah might like that is sure to cause grandpa to have fits.

http://www.afrocircus.com/

barking frog

December 25th, 2012
10:17 am

Merry Christmas !

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

December 25th, 2012
10:21 am

I almost cut my hair, it was happened just the other day.
It was gettin’ kinda long, I could’ve said it was in my way.
But I didn’t and I wonder why, I feel like letting my freak flag fly,
And I feel like I owe it to someone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4YpqRPLIWc

Well, must be because I had the flu for Christmas and I’m not feeling up to par.
You know, it increases my paranoia, like looking in my mirror and seeing a police car.
But I’m not givin’ in an inch to fear. I promised myself this year.
I feel like I owe it to someone.

When I finally get myself together, I’m going to get down in that sunny southern weather.
And going to find a space inside to laugh, separate the wheat from the chaff.
‘Cause I feel like I owe it to someone.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

December 25th, 2012
10:23 am

Flu meds are worse than the flu. anyway,
Merry Mithra…hell, somebody had to say it! :)

Patrick

December 25th, 2012
10:28 am

An all-time Christmas classic–”Christmas in Hollis” by Run DMC. 1987.

Share it with the younger generation. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR07r0ZMFb8

Gale

December 25th, 2012
10:30 am

Merry Christmas cousin Corbin, and everyone else as well.

RB from Gwinnett

December 25th, 2012
10:39 am

Merry Christmas everyone! My hope for all of you is that you come to know your savior and develop a growing relationship with him. He is the reason for this season!!

Gale

December 25th, 2012
10:40 am

RB, today I will not counter your claim. Merry Christmas.

Progress

December 25th, 2012
10:54 am

Merry Christmas. Let’s all celebrate the birthday of Zoroaster on this date, as humans have been doing for more than 2500 years.

guy

December 25th, 2012
10:56 am

RB from Gwinnett, You claim is right, and if we would do that,this would be a much better world. Merry Christmas to all!

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

December 25th, 2012
11:01 am

RB,
If by “He”, you mean the Great American God of Business, then I agree he is the reason for the season. Anyone else, not so much, but meh, that’s just me.

To me today, is ALL CHILDREN’S DAY. They ARE the reason for the season.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

December 25th, 2012
11:02 am

…and Cousin Gale, may you and yours have all of your wishes granted in the year to come.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

December 25th, 2012
11:04 am

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

December 25th, 2012
11:05 am

BTW, looking at Jay’s picture, you reckon he might have been up late building stuff for Santa?

JamVet

December 25th, 2012
11:30 am

Loved Bro’s jazzed up and funky 8:12 from downstairs.

For the naughty kids out there…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srHM2sIll68

RB from Gwinnett

December 25th, 2012
11:31 am

Corbin “If by “He”, you mean the Great American God of Business”

No, by “He”, I mean Christ.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

December 25th, 2012
11:41 am

RB,
Like I said…Meh…

Progress

December 25th, 2012
11:42 am

I think you actually mean Mithra.

RB from Gwinnett

December 25th, 2012
11:43 am

Corbin, the cool thing is He loves you even if you don’t love Him back.

Merry CHRISTmas!!

JamVet

December 25th, 2012
11:51 am

Many people suffer from the misconception that Christmas is a Christian holiday. The earliest history of Christmas is composed of “pagan” (non-Christian) fertility rites and practices which predate Jesus by centuries. The truth is, in short, the real history of Christmas has nothing to do with Christianity. Many of the traditions which we hold dear, such as decorating Christmas trees, singing Christmas carols, and giving Christmas gifts, are rooted in the traditions of non-Christian religions.

We do not observe Christmas on December 25th because it was the date in history when Jesus was born. Nobody knows exactly what that date was, but references in the Bible show it most likely did not take place in winter. Rather it is because this was the date that the Romans historically celebrated the winter solstice. This celebration was about dies natalis solis invicti: the day of the birth of the unconquerable sun, which took place on December 22nd. The winter solstice held the promise of the return of springtime and earthly renewal. In Roman history, this was the time of Saturnalia, honoring the God of Agriculture, for the week before the solstice, and Juvenalia, a feast in honor of the children of Rome, around the same time.

On the 25th of the month they celebrated the birth of the sun-god Mithra. Masters and servants traded places temporarily, and everybody had a rollicking good time. It was during Saturnalia that the tradition of exchanging gifts was established. They gave one another Stenae or fruits which were intended to bring good luck. The Romans placed an enormous amount of pressure on the early Christians to rejoice along with them, and around the time of the fourth century, they began to celebrate Christmas around the same time. It was inevitable that Christians should make a connection between the rebirth of the sun and the birth of the Son.

In the Middle Ages, Christmas was a raucous, drunken celebration which resembled a carnival. Poor people would go on a Christmas”trick or treat” around the richer neighborhoods, causing them misery if they didn’t get what they wanted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeShHAZk3to

Progress

December 25th, 2012
11:55 am

getalife

December 25th, 2012
11:55 am

To me, that is what Christmas is all about.

Joy on the faces of the children.

Gale

December 25th, 2012
11:56 am

I like that, Corbin, All Children’s Day.

Some of my neighbors decided to do firecrackers most of last evening. I cannot figure out if they were trying to lure Santa or scare him away. I mean to ask my Indian coworkers tomorrow if firecrackers are a traditional accessory to any special holiday. At least, I think they came from that part of my neighborhood.

JamVet

December 25th, 2012
12:02 pm

They’re putting up reindeer
And singing songs of joy and peace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVwo9IQMWM0

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

December 25th, 2012
12:37 pm

RB,
Honestly I never figured you for a Christian. I mean, you are always projecting anger on this blog and I thought the followers of The Prince of Peace would be more mellow than that. I really don’t get you Christians. You always push your dogma into others faces, but you don’t do as your Christ had done in his time. He walked the walk, led by example. I don’t see that happening much here. You want people to believe in what you believe, then shut up about it and just quietly show us how. You believe what you want and I will believe what I want. I figure there are more than one stairways to Heaven. But Happy Saturnalia anyway…

RB from Gwinnett

December 25th, 2012
12:39 pm

“Many people suffer from the misconception that Christmas is a Christian holiday.”

Can you not hold your hatred of Christians for just this one day, Jammie?

josef

December 25th, 2012
12:41 pm

GALE
@ 11:56
Depends on what kind of Indians they are…Cherokee? :-)

ᎤᎵᎮᎵᏍᏗ ᏓᏂᏍᏓᏲᎯᎲᎢ

u-li-he-li-s-di da-ni-s-da-yo-hi-hv-i

Merry Christmas.

Literally translates to “Happy when they go shooting (fireworks.)”

And why that? Well, when the Cherokee ran into the Spanish with their tradition of shooting off fireworks at Christmas, they took a shine to the idea, adopted the custom and, well, were happy to welcome the Christ Child in said fashion.

Progress

December 25th, 2012
12:42 pm

JamVet @ 11:51- That’s a pretty accurate description of the origins of Christmas, which certainly is rooted in Pagan beliefs and took place long before the supposed birth of Jesus. However, your article assumes that Jesus was a real person. If he was, then no one on earth knew of him at the time. There are no written records of Jesus during the time he supposedly lived. No accounts of his “life” were documented until 70 years after he supposedly lived, and when those records appeared they were purely allegorical- metaphorical stories meant to reinforce a belief system rather than a historical, biographical account of real events. And almost all the godly events of Jesus’ life had been borrowed from the myths of previous cultures- the virgin birth, healing the sick, his execution and resurrection, etc. These stories existed long before Jesus supposedly lived. If he had lived and had been executed by Romans as it tells in the Bible there surely would have been a written record of it sometime around year one. But there’s not. Jesus was created around 67 AD when a new cult, an offshoot of Judaism, cobbled together fables from more ancient religions. Jesus almost certainly never existed. With that said, this atheist is enjoying the Pagan holiday, complete with Christmas trees, presents, children eating cookies, and hot tamales. Yes, it’s wonderful time.

josef

December 25th, 2012
12:54 pm

And for some of y’all…I’m with RB on this one…

Take your non Christian attitudes and stuff them or go out for Chinese and a movie. It’s Baby Jesus’ Birthday, plain and simple. Quit trying to two-step your own taking the day off, getting together to share food and presents with some citation of whatever else has become attached to the RELIGIOUS holiday (Holy Day…got it?)

I am not of the Christian faith, but I am ever so happy to be invited to Baby Jesus’ Birthday party. If you don’t want to be here, then go away for the day and let those for whom it IS celebrate without being Crazy Aunt Bette down from the attic to be the t*rd in the Yuletide Wassail bowl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilYLFnVdwPQ

Erwin's cat

December 25th, 2012
1:13 pm

Merry Christmas peeps….even you Taxpayer >^..^<

Progress

December 25th, 2012
1:14 pm

Ah, I should have known that Josef, the living contradiction, would chime in with hypocritical nonsense.

I’ll celebrate Christmas as I wish, which is actually much closer to its origin than the Christian version.

Mama Says

December 25th, 2012
1:17 pm

Jezz, talk about the liberal agenda.

We get a lesson on the lack of merit concerning the existence of Jesus himself–ON CHRISTMAS DAY.

By the way folks its is completely human like to take a day in which you as a people are forced to celebrate secular or Pagan gods and turn it into a day of your religious celebration upon being freed or liberated. So while the facts of the origin are true it’s not like the Jews or any other people under Roman rule were free to express any other religious celebration.

As for the exsistence of Jesus. Scholars debate as we speak wheather or not the Dead Sea Schrolls were written by Jesus himself and it certainly follows logic that the church would wipe the record clean of any Jesus references since they offered him to the Romans in an effort to get rid of him.

Considering the story is that the high priest and other religious leaders were concerned with his infulence and were not happy about being called out I would think they could have wiped him from the record books. Considering most were illiterate during that time it was the powerful who would tend to follow the law, that were doing the historical recordings.

But as you say it means nothing

getalife

December 25th, 2012
1:39 pm

Jesus took on the establishment and lost.

The original OWS.

The Italians organized a mafia and took over the world.

I would of hung out with Caligula.

Anyhoo, I got a half gallon of Crown and a box of my favorite cigars.

:)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 25th, 2012
1:46 pm

On a better note of Christmas giving and kindness, Occupy groups through strikeforce.org bought millions of dollars of bad debt for pennies on the dollars relating to medical bills, housing and education. And then they sent a note to those borrowers who were in default and would have been hounded by debt collectors, that they wiped out the debt.

JamVet

December 25th, 2012
1:55 pm

I said nothing hateful about Xmas or Christians.

I’m just having a good laugh at the angry RB’s lying about me in the name of his savior!

I’m with a getalife, eat, drink, smoke and be merry!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSynDh_K0EE

getalife

December 25th, 2012
1:58 pm

Keep,

Best present ever.

“I’m with a getalife, eat, drink, smoke and be merry!”

Amen.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

December 25th, 2012
2:04 pm

Well, the smell of roasting turkey is all thru the trailer and me and little Nathan Zell George are about wore out from playing with all the things he got. He also got a suitcase of PBR but since he’s a little young for that me and my buddy Jim Earl and my other buddy Joe Bill and maybe the Rev. Jim Bob Buice will help him play with that. We’ll try to leave the Rev. Jim Bob a couple, seeing as how he don’t show up till darkness comes. He can’t afford to have the cops see him around a kid and get arrested for parole violation and all that stuff.

Have a Merry Christmas everybody. I’ll try and not think about the wreckage you left at all the stores I service. I’ll worry about that Wednesday.

Matti

December 25th, 2012
2:19 pm

I didn’t find JamVet’s history lesson to be hateful or anti-Christian at all. It’s just history. Why do some people need to take offense at something in order to feel validated? Your Christmas is what YOU make it in any given year. Nobody is trying to stop you from doing what feels real to you.

RF

December 25th, 2012
2:22 pm

WHEW!! Six hours in the kitchen a’ cookin’ and I’m worn out!!! But we did eat like kings, and my boys were blessed with their favorite holiday foods. Whatever your reason for celebrating this day, hug your precious ones a little tighter and sit back and appreciate just being alive and well on this day!!

Merry Christmas one and all!!!

Matti

December 25th, 2012
2:26 pm

If the food and lights and decorations and treats and presents and cards and carols and silly movies with the ones you love are not enough, then add a little Southern Comfort to the Egg Nog and slurp a cup or three! Merry Christmas!

RB from Gwinnett

December 25th, 2012
2:43 pm

Corbin, “Honestly I never figured you for a Christian. I mean, you are always projecting anger on this blog and I thought the followers of The Prince of Peace would be more mellow than that.”

I think it’s funny to see people who don’t believe a word of the Bible try to use it to silence Christians by taking cherry picked verses, mostly out of context.

Sorry, Corbin, I’m not playing your childish game. Go sell your hate somewhere else.

RB from Gwinnett

December 25th, 2012
2:52 pm

Yea, Jammie, and many people also “suffer” from the misconception we celebrate veterans on Veterans Day and remember those who served and died on Memorial Day too, right?!!

You’re pathetic.

Fred ™

December 25th, 2012
2:59 pm

osef

December 25th, 2012
12:54 pm

And for some of y’all…I’m with RB on this one…

Take your non Christian attitudes and stuff them or go out for Chinese and a movie. It’s Baby Jesus’ Birthday, plain and simple. Quit trying to two-step your own taking the day off, getting together to share food and presents with some citation of whatever else has become attached to the RELIGIOUS holiday (Holy Day…got it?)

I am not of the Christian faith, but I am ever so happy to be invited to Baby Jesus’ Birthday party. If you don’t want to be here, then go away for the day and let those for whom it IS celebrate without being Crazy Aunt Bette down from the attic to be the t*rd in the Yuletide Wassail bowl
++++++++++++++++++

You are a mensch. You have my deepest thanks and respect. Merry Christmas to you.

oldguy

December 25th, 2012
4:02 pm

Merry Christmas All !!
Getalife,,, Really? Booze and Tobacco? Not very PC!
Actually I am going out to the back porch in a few minutes and smoke a “Cuba Libre” remedlos and socialize with the back porch cat before it gets too cold.
Hang out with Caligula? (Gaius Augustus actually, Caligula was a pet name given to his as a child by the army) A crazy guy with a death wish who slept with his sister? bizarre
Enjoy your Cigar!

I came to a truce years ago with my grown Daughters about Christmas presents. No more shopping and wringing hands about what I might like. Each year they give me a US Mint proof set of US coins in standard and silver coins. I collect coins and I love the proof sets (I keep them on display in my living room) and one day they will inherit something worth more that they paid for them. My Canadian Daughter has even continued the tradition by sending me a Canadian Coin proof set each year.
Have a healthy New Year Getalife (and all!).

oldguy

December 25th, 2012
4:09 pm

you missed it Redneck Convert ,,
To be truly converted to redneckhood ALL names must begin with Billy
Billy Bob, Billy Jo, Billy Jean Etc.
Sorry, you still have a way to go!..:)

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

December 25th, 2012
4:17 pm

you missed it Redneck Convert ,,

Well, it’s plain this guy don’t know nothing about being a redneck. It’s OK. Merry Christmas anyway. Even to josef.

JamVet

December 25th, 2012
4:30 pm

Wow.

Even on this happiest of days, his religion brings the man from Loganville no peace or joy.

But I do admire his consistency.

Why just practice blogging malevolence 364 days out of the year?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co7ZGOjGV4A

Gale

December 25th, 2012
4:31 pm

josef – From the continent of Idia Indians. I don’t think we have any native American indians in the neighborhood. Thanks for the interesting history tidbit.

Gale

December 25th, 2012
4:47 pm

India, josef, not Idia.
I get such interesting discussion here sometimes. The rewriting of mythology to support a new religion takes a long view. I wonder if it could even be done today. We’ve seen what enough money can do to a political campaign. 2000 years ago, give or take a few decades, most history was word of mouth. An educated man would be able to twist the stories to his own purposes pretty easily.

getalife

December 25th, 2012
4:51 pm

old guy,

I am not very pc so you got me there.

Your coin gift is a good idea.

Liberal Pariah

December 25th, 2012
4:53 pm

Just because Christians coopted the pagan trappings of Christmas does not mean that Jesus was not real, didn’t die and was not resurrected.
:-)
Merry Christmas to Libs, Cons, Progs, Indies, Libertarians, Atheists and everyone else Jesus died for.

indigo

December 25th, 2012
5:07 pm

Liberal – 4:53

It’s very simple.

Just give us testable evidence that Jesus lived, was the Messiah and actually died for us.

Once we get this hard evidence, we’ll all be glad to be a true Christian like you.

josef

December 25th, 2012
6:15 pm

I didn’t figure what I had to say would go over real well in certain quarters! So be it, Our day in our own little multi-cultural corner of Western civilization? No t*rds in the wassail bowl, just peace on earth and good will toward our fellow human beings. So far this Season we’ve had our time with the Pagan (Halloween), the national feast of Thanksgiving, the historical celebration of Hannukah, the religious Holy Day of Christmas, and now on to the secular New Year…something in the season for everyone…if that’s okay… :-)

josef

December 25th, 2012
6:17 pm

Du-k-sha-nee…

Being the season of goodwill…a Merry Christmas to you and yours, too!

josef

December 25th, 2012
6:25 pm

PROGRESS

So, you’re a student of Zoroastrianism? Are you Parsi?

Aquagirl

December 25th, 2012
6:30 pm

I am not very pc so you got me there.

I’m sure the guy from Jeff Shultz’s blog wouldn’t mind if you borrow his greeting.

“Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress,non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2013, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the Western Hemisphere. Also, this wish is made without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wish.”

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2012/12/25/nfl-playoffs-about-qbs-coaches-and-falcons-have-shot/#comment-517910

Doggone/GA

December 25th, 2012
6:33 pm

“Once we get this hard evidence, we’ll all be glad to be a true Christian like you”

But we don’t need to. The information is freely available. Only God can call you to faith, not us. If you don’t feel that call, we can’t create it for you. It’s between you and God.

indigo

December 25th, 2012
7:01 pm

Doggone/GA – 6:33

I’m not talking about your pure blind faith.

I’m talking about the testable evidence you have to support that faith.

From the book of Genesis to the book of Revelation, you have a large body of religious belief whose authorship is totally unknown. And yet, a large part of your life rests on absolute belief in the validity of these religious instructions.

It just seems logical to ask for some solid evidence to support this kind of belief.

But then, your religious beliefs are about as logical as Santa Claus, Batman and the Tooth Fariy.

Georgia

December 25th, 2012
7:02 pm

Saw django. C+. Three hours of the n word. Tarantino has lost it. Some great moments, but he tries too hard, and dialogue is cliche-riddled. Example: final line of dialogue is, “let’s get out of here.”.

Doggone/GA

December 25th, 2012
7:08 pm

“I’m not talking about your pure blind faith”

When you say “blind faith” you’re talking to the wrong person. But to someone who doubts, there IS no proof that is acceptable. I wouldn’t even try, because there’s nothing I could say that would satisfy you. And that is not my issue. As I said, it’s between you and God. If you don’t feel the call to faith…you don’t feel it. No one can “prove” it to you.

“But then, your religious beliefs are about as logical as Santa Claus, Batman and the Tooth Fariy”

And you have NO IDEA what My religious beliefs even are. So you criticism falls on deaf ears.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

December 25th, 2012
7:20 pm

Just got back from the Corbin Sharpe family fest. WOW is all I can say. Gotta love the kids.

————

RB from Gwinnett

December 25th, 2012
2:43 pm

…and RB, I don’t hate anyone. I don’t have to…I’m not a Christian. Love is the answer…Merry Mithra. :lol:

Doggone/GA

December 25th, 2012
7:26 pm

“I don’t hate anyone. I don’t have to…I’m not a Christian”

Neither do Christians

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

December 25th, 2012
7:48 pm

“Neither do Christians”

Absolutely correct Doggone, but most do. They hate anyone not like them. It’s like they never heard of live and let live….

But that conundrum won’t be solved here. I gotta get up at 0400 and back to work tomorrow. No matter how you do it, enjoy the rest of the day….

Happy Santa Claus Day!

midtownguy

December 25th, 2012
7:52 pm

Jay: I think she has a future as a drag queen. Except that she is already genetically female and that is against the rules.

Doggone/GA

December 25th, 2012
7:54 pm

“Absolutely correct Doggone, but most do”

I wouldn’t say most…but I would say too many do. I took the operative words in what you said to be “have to” Christians don’t HAVE TO hate anyone, but too many find someone or some group to hate anyway. I”ve long taken Jesus words that his way is “hard” not to mean that his tenets are difficult to follow, because they aren’t, but what IS hard is to let go of old attitudes and hatreds. And some people just can’t do that, and don’t even try.

Liberal Pariah

December 25th, 2012
8:00 pm

Christians do not hate anyone not like them. Sure there are the nutjobs like those from Westboro but they certainly do not represent the vast majority of those who call themselves Christians. Just because we don’t accept and approve of those things the Bible call sin does not make us haters. Most of the genuine hate I see on Jay’s and other blogs is that towards those who identify as Christians and have the temerity to defend their faith. Because I have a Biblical worldview, I abhor the social policies of this President but I do not hate him. I pray for him and hope that one day he too will turn away from the Secular Humanistic, Morally Relativistic worldview that drives his social policy. I, like Doggone, believe that the evidence is out there sufficient for someone to make a reasoned decision for Jesus Christ. I respect your right to reject that evidence and make a different decision. Merry Christmas…truly :-)

Doggone/GA

December 25th, 2012
8:07 pm

“of the genuine hate I see on Jay’s and other blogs is that towards those who identify as Christians and have the temerity to defend their faith”

You have obviously not been paying REAL attention. First, I’ve seldom seen TRUE hatred here…and most of the criticism *I* see is saved for those who profess to be Christians, but whose words belie that faith.

Liberal Pariah

December 25th, 2012
8:19 pm

Much of the vitriol that has been directed towards several identifying as Christians here strikes me as genuine and heartfelt. The secular humanists are quick to misquote Jesus’s words on judging but judge Christians as to whether or not those words belie that faith in this medium which I believe is a serious challenge. I know you have frequented this blog a great deal since I have been visiting and maybe you don’t see it as I do…and that’s ok too :-) I just know that the haters come out quickly upon identification before they even engage those who claim the name.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 25th, 2012
8:27 pm

There are no written records of Jesus during the time he supposedly lived. No accounts of his “life” were documented until 70 years after he supposedly lived, and when those records appeared they were purely allegorical- metaphorical stories meant to reinforce a belief system rather than a historical, biographical account of real events. And almost all the godly events of Jesus’ life had been borrowed from the myths of previous cultures- the virgin birth, healing the sick, his execution and resurrection, etc. These stories existed long before Jesus supposedly lived.

Yes and NO. Both the Koran and the writings of Buddha mention Jesus.

In Islam, Jesus (commonly transliterated as Isa) is considered one of God’s important prophets.[34][35] In Islam, Jesus is a bringer of scripture, and the product of a virgin birth, but not the victim of crucifixion. Judaism rejects the belief that Jesus was the awaited Messiah, arguing that he did not fulfill the Messianic prophecies in the Tanakh.[36] Bahá’í scripture almost never refers to Jesus as the Messiah, but calls him a Manifestation of God.

Separate non-Christian sources used to establish the historical existence of Jesus include the works of 1st century Roman historians Josephus and Tacitus.[288][295] Josephus scholar Louis H. Feldman has stated that “few have doubted the genuineness” of Josephus’ reference to Jesus in Antiquities 20, 9, 1 and it is only disputed by a small number of scholars.[289][296][297][298] Bart D. Ehrman states that the existence of Jesus and his crucifixion by the Romans is attested to by a wide range of sources, including Josephus and Tacitus.[299]

The historical existence of Jesus as a person is a separate issue from any religious discussions about his divinity, or the theological issues relating to his nature as man or God.

In essence, Jesus DID exist. Whether he was divine or not is up to the faith of the reader.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus

Now for some Music, about Jesus, just for today! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54r8CLLfd94&feature=related

Doggone/GA

December 25th, 2012
8:27 pm

“I just know that the haters come out quickly upon identification before they even engage those who claim the name”

Hang around. You’ll find that the true haters don’t stay very long. But there ARE too many who call criticism “hatred” They’re wrong. And there’s nothing wrong with quoting the do not judge injuction to people who can’t seem to understand it.

Doggone/GA

December 25th, 2012
8:30 pm

“In essence, Jesus DID exist. Whether he was divine or not is up to the faith of the reader”

and I see it just a little differently. to me, it doesn’t matter if he existed or not…his teaching resonate and by that he has never “died”

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 25th, 2012
8:34 pm

Merry Christmas DogGone!!

Did your “puppies” have a great Christmas too? I bought mine all sorts of toys, (that they really don’t need); and a couple of those dried up bones you get at PetCo.

What did yours gets this year?

Josef

December 25th, 2012
8:36 pm

Liberal Pariah

December 25th, 2012
8:37 pm

Well put…Merry Christmas to All and to All A Good Night!

Doggone/GA

December 25th, 2012
8:37 pm

“What did yours gets this year?”

they got the treat they love the most: leftovers from Christmas dinner! We had a nice, quiet Christmas this year. My sister had to work all day, and it was too darn wet and foggy to even think of getting out. So we all just lazed around and watched TV all day.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 25th, 2012
8:43 pm

they got the treat they love the most: leftovers from Christmas dinner!

:lol: :lol: Word!

We had a nice, quiet Christmas this year. My sister had to work all day, and it was too darn wet and foggy to even think of getting out. So we all just lazed around and watched TV all day.

Yeah it was AWFUL most of the day — I went to the hospital to see my sister and the twins. Those boys are FAT! They were crying because they were hungry, (again), and those little carrier thingies that the nurses put them in were just shaking and rocking. My sister couldn’t feed them fast enough!

She comes home tomorrow and still hasn’t named them yet — I’m still pushing for her to name at least ONE Deacon — I think she hates that name though!

This has been a really great Christmas this year — I got two new HEALTHY nephews and my sister is healthy and doing fine. I am blessed and happy as a bug in a rug!

OH and mIami just won the game tonight over OKC!

Today is good day!!

Doggone/GA

December 25th, 2012
8:47 pm

DDR – glad to hear your sister and the babies are doing well. That’s the best Christmas present of all!

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 25th, 2012
8:48 pm

Hiya josef!!

josef — why did Fred call you a mensch? What does that mean? Was he insulting you? Want me to go after him for calling you out of your name? It’ll be my gift to you — you won’t have to be banned for 2 weeks, I’ll take the hit for you!

Georgia: Saw django. C+. Three hours of the n word. Tarantino has lost it. Some great moments, but he tries too hard, and dialogue is cliche-riddled. Example: final line of dialogue is, “let’s get out of here.”.

IMO Tarantino, after Pulp Fiction, has been going steadily downhill. Without the “n” word, what basically are his movies ABOUT? Shooting, cursing, and dying. The End. What’s the point?

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 25th, 2012
8:49 pm

Anyone noticed that Jay’s grand looks JUST LIKE her great grand?!? Man genetics don’t lie!

Since she’s such a cutie — I wonder if his dad looked like a girl when he was little…..Just speculating! No disrespect.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 25th, 2012
8:54 pm

DDR – glad to hear your sister and the babies are doing well. That’s the best Christmas present of all!

Amen to that. I was really worried for my sister; her first pregnancy was a breeze, but this one was hell! I was scared i was going to loose her; but like i said, she’s fine and she’s just GLOWING with happiness. Her family is now complete. I’ve been begging her to PLEASE get her tubes tied! She’s a practicing catholic so she doesn’t believe in birth control, but she’s really a bit too “old” to be having anymore children.

I’m hoping our mother can talk sense into her. My mom, the super-catholic, had her tubes tied after she had child number 9. My mother was like, “Hey god knows my heart and he KNOWS i’m sick of being pregnant!”

Barackisha

December 25th, 2012
8:55 pm

Merry Christmas, Happy Kwanza to all what hang out here on Jay’s blog. Over here @ the Barackisha household we gathering round the 12 inch b&w TV to watch National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation for about the fiftieth time @ 9pm.

td

December 25th, 2012
8:57 pm

True Christians do not hate individuals personally but they deplore the acts that individuals take that is against the teachings of God. Some people can not separate the act from the person and there is where some Christians get into trouble because they should never judge the person just rebuke the act. The other issues is non believers do not like to be called out for their immoral acts. They know they are acting wrong but instead of accepting the facts they lash out against the ones bringing their immoral acts out.

Doggone/GA

December 25th, 2012
8:57 pm

“My mom, the super-catholic, had her tubes tied after she had child number 9. My mother was like, “Hey god knows my heart and he KNOWS i’m sick of being pregnant!”

I love it! God said “Be fruitful and multiply” and I think it’s safe to say we HAVE. We were talking the other day about animals multiplying to the point where they eat themselves out of survivable habitat. I’ve never seen anything in that injunction that says WE should do the same thing!

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 25th, 2012
8:58 pm

Barackisha – For you. Merry Christmas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35WgpMq6e3o

Doggone/GA

December 25th, 2012
9:00 pm

“The other issues is non believers do not like to be called out for their immoral acts. They know they are acting wrong but instead of accepting the facts they lash out against the ones bringing their immoral acts out.”

there is some truth in that, but I think the main problem is the people don’t like to be called immoral for things that AREN’T

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 25th, 2012
9:05 pm

Word. Women who have multiple pregnancies, especially multiple pregnancies close together, have lots of problems later in life.

My mother had to get a “bladder mesh”(?) or something like that because pregnancies result in pressure on your bladder and it stretches or something……..at any rate, as she aged she had problems with it.

She also had back problems, and vericose veins. The muscle tone in her stomach never returned to what it was, pre-child #4, no matter how many situps and crunches she did; so she had her stomach “tucked”(?) — her waist is now a stunning 20″ (mine is 21 — I HATE her :) ).

So she is one to quickly point out the fallacy of a bunch of MEN, (priests/pope), telling WOMEN about NOT taking birth control; when they have no idea, nor do they care, about the consequences of multiple pregnancies on some women’s bodies.

td

December 25th, 2012
9:06 pm

Doggone/GA

December 25th, 2012
9:00 pm

And there is the major rub. A persons belief system as to what is and is not moral and proper behavior.

Josef

December 25th, 2012
9:07 pm

DDR

No…no insult at all and quite the opposite. It’s Yiddish and really means “person, human being.” it’s used whenever somebody does or says something honorable and worthy of respect. It’s about the most complimentary term in Yiddish. It’s not used lightly.

Doggone/GA

December 25th, 2012
9:07 pm

“when they have no idea, nor do they care, about the consequences of multiple pregnancies on some women’s bodies.”

It’s always a problem when doctrine is more important then people