NRA hasn’t changed its blustering self

I had to smile, and not happily, when I read this from Politico:

“The National Rifle Association stunned Washington observers Friday when the group’s CEO announced a plan to install armed guards at every school in the country — its response to the Connecticut shooting last week that left 20 children dead…

… Close observers had expected the NRA to strike a more cooperative tone at the unusual press conference, as pressure is mounting in Washington for reform.”

I don’t know who these “close observers” might be, but most people who have paid attention to the NRA over the years are not stunned or surprised in the least. “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” NRA executive Wayne LaPierre told the press conference, in statements that could have been scripted five years ago.

LaPierre did make valid points in his statement about the need to improve school security and, oddly, about the dangerous Cult of Guns. But he made not the slightest nod toward even addressing the role played by the easy availability of high-powered weaponry. He and other NRA officials also refused to take questions afterward.

Personally, I take that as a good sign. It looked to me as though LaPierre and his friends are a bit worried this time and afraid to engage in the debate, fearful that at moments such as this, their bumper-sticker rhetoric won’t play well in front of a general audience.

Anything to change the subject, right Wayne?

– Jay Bookman

562 comments Add your comment

DebbieDoRight - Destructive Politics Is The New Black..

December 21st, 2012
12:28 pm

Why are you surprised? Seriously.

stands for decibels

December 21st, 2012
12:30 pm

I read this from Politico:

That’s “Tiger Beat on the Potomac” to you, buck-o.

Regnad Kcin

December 21st, 2012
12:31 pm

So, is the world a better place after his press conference?

DebbieDoRight - Destructive Politics Is The New Black..

December 21st, 2012
12:32 pm

Woo hooo! I’m 1st!!! HA!

Take THAT JamVet!!

Well, since I’m first I want to list all the things that I am thankful for (since the year is almost over):

** That republican party will be obsolete in about 5 years.

** That 2012 was a great year, AND the republicans, despite their money, their attacks and their vicious lies; got PUNKED.

** That, if all goes well, some MODERATE Conservatives will rise up from the ashes of the republican party and we can move this country, (uh..oh watch out conned here comes that “F” word again)…….FORWARD

** That I was first! Again! Stuff it Jam!! :)

Oh and I’m also thankful for my family, friends, blah, blah, blah,blah……. :oops:

Brad Steel

December 21st, 2012
12:33 pm

With just a little more flexibility, the NRA will show about as much rationale and reason as the Westboro Baptist Church.

Regnad Kcin

December 21st, 2012
12:33 pm

From the speech:

“And does anybodyreally believe that the next Adam Lanza isn’t planning his attack on aschool he’s already identifiedat this very moment ?”

ZOMG WHERE’S MY GUNNNN!!!!!

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 21st, 2012
12:34 pm

The previous mass-murders, the NRA would say “now is not the time for a political discussion about this.” This time, they decided they were falling behind and needed to get their version of political crazy out there early. So we get to laugh at it, except that there are a LOT of supposed adults who think that the NRA is right.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

December 21st, 2012
12:34 pm

Well, I reckon I could volunteer to be a armed school guard and save the country a little money. I bet one of them autotistic shooters would think twice when he seen me in the school hallway with my two machine guns and the anti-tank weapon all locked and loaded.

But I bet the parents would feel alot better about how their kids were being kept safe.

See you at FNM everybody.

edman

December 21st, 2012
12:34 pm

The guards will be hardly noticeable in their neutral light brown shirts. ayfkm?

ATL Tiger

December 21st, 2012
12:35 pm

The NRA supports one of the most fundamental aspects of humanity, acting in one self’s own interest. This country still promotes and allows this inherent right, and the NRA was practicing it’s voice today on that manner.

I do believe however that they need to work on their image, as does the GOP. Do less chastising and alienation, and more accommodating and embracing.

getalife

December 21st, 2012
12:35 pm

After the massacres happened in other countries, their people united to ban guns.

It is a test from God.

They passed, we will not.

Onto the next massacre until we pass the test from God.

stands for decibels

December 21st, 2012
12:36 pm

With just a little more flexibility, the NRA will show about as much rationale and reason as the Westboro Baptist Church.

I can only hope they’ll enjoy the same public support in the years ahead, as that august theological body.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 21st, 2012
12:36 pm

The guards will be hardly noticeable in their neutral light brown shirts.

Does Godwin’s Law apply?

East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)

December 21st, 2012
12:37 pm

Well bless their hearts. Problem solved now…we can all go on with our lives. BTW, where did the NRA suggest the funding for these officers come from?

stands for decibels

December 21st, 2012
12:38 pm

I bet one of them autotistic shooters would think twice

Lord, I know I’m not supposed to laugh at this…

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 21st, 2012
12:38 pm

BTW, where did the NRA suggest the funding for these officers come from?

They don’t care about that as long as each guard’s gun is newly purchased from their benefactors.

Georgia

December 21st, 2012
12:38 pm

I’m frightened and want my mommie.

Krystal'sBalls

December 21st, 2012
12:38 pm

But, B-B-But that’s going to cost TAXPAYER DOLLARS!!! Can’t have that.

Just GIVE us “civilized” society. Why should we have to PAY for it??

Is that “moochin” by the way?

Michael

December 21st, 2012
12:38 pm

Are we really suprised by Wayne LaPuke’s comments?

Fly-On-The-Wall

December 21st, 2012
12:39 pm

The NRA leadership needs to be replaced – period. These guys are out of touch just like Congressional Republicans.

edman

December 21st, 2012
12:39 pm

Anyway, who died and made the CEO of the NRA the Commander in Chief?
Seriously, though, you have to agree with the guy (was is Michael Moore?) who said if only the first Lanza victim had owned a weapo– oh. Never mind.

DebbieDoRight - Destructive Politics Is The New Black..

December 21st, 2012
12:40 pm

Was looking up the bio of Zangara (nerd that I am, I was playing a trivia game online); and found this tidbit — thought it was VERY interesting and STILL relevant even today:

Superior Court Judge Uly Thompson sentanced Zangara to death, but as part of his judicial opinion, stated that unless society found a way to regulate the ownership of handguns, more senseless death will occur.

The Judge made that pronouncement back in 1933 — funny how it’s still relevant today.

Regnad Kcin

December 21st, 2012
12:40 pm

Sounds like Wayne LaPierre really shot himself in the foot…

Krystal'sBalls

December 21st, 2012
12:42 pm

@Dammit ByteMe!

Why didn’t I catch that??? I bet Blackwater already has people on the phone with the NRA.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 21st, 2012
12:42 pm

I saw a protestor at an event: When one kid hits another kid with a rock, the answer is not to arm students and kids with more rocks

Regnad Kcin

December 21st, 2012
12:42 pm

From the speech:

“The second point I want to make is that this will be a program thatdoesn’t depend on massive funding from local authorities or thefederal government. Instead, it’ll make use of local volunteers servingin their own communities.”

This doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy, somehow…

David Shivers

December 21st, 2012
12:43 pm

Odd LaPierre would acknowedge the cult of guns. Hasn’t the NRA helped to foment that?

stands for decibels

December 21st, 2012
12:44 pm

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 21st, 2012
12:45 pm

Instead, it’ll make use of local volunteers serving in their own communities

Oh, good, an untrained, armed “volunteer” with an itch to shoot a bad guy in a crowded school. But we’re just “libs” for thinking that won’t end well.

Fly-On-The-Wall

December 21st, 2012
12:45 pm

All the NRA is trying to do is push more of the culture of guns deeper into society.

MANGLER

December 21st, 2012
12:45 pm

There was security at the press conference which searched bags and patted the press down. No weapons allowed at the press conference where they advocated for more weapons. Irony?

stands for decibels

December 21st, 2012
12:45 pm

“The second point I want to make is that this will be a program thatdoesn’t depend on massive funding from local authorities or thefederal government. Instead, it’ll make use of local volunteers servingin their own communities.”

In the interests of national harmony and peace, any response more civilized than “oh, just die in a fire already, LaPierre” should be discouraged.

Jerome Horwitz

December 21st, 2012
12:46 pm

Before passing judgement about this idea I would want to hear from actual educators. They’re on the front line and their judgement carries great weight. Everything I’ve heard so far indicates this is a bad idea – including the opinion of a former Green Beret interviewed on CNN. He basically said that most of the general populace is not prepared to function in this enviroment.

Regnad Kcin

December 21st, 2012
12:47 pm

“Obama, Boehner Continue Game of Taxes Hold’em”

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 21st, 2012
12:47 pm

He basically said that most of the general populace is not prepared to function in this enviroment.

The average soldier is not prepared for what they’re going to feel after shooting someone point-blank, how would the average person be prepared better?

larry

December 21st, 2012
12:48 pm

I can see my daughters first grade teacher, teaching her 6 and 7 year olds with an AR-15, strapped on her.

I mean , just damn!

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer...and Ban the Gun Thug!

December 21st, 2012
12:48 pm

DebbieDoRight - Destructive Politics Is The New Black..

December 21st, 2012
12:49 pm

it’ll make use of local volunteers servingin their own communities.”

That’s the BEAUTY of this plan!! By having “local guys” (remember the shooter was a local), go down to the school locked and loaded; they’ll not only be saving money by NOT regulating gun control, but the ones who have an obsession with little children, will already BE at the school with the blessings of the NRA and the locals!

So, lets say Mr. G, who would’ve normally just volunteered to be a Scout Master (but can’t now since the BOA got outted), can now volunteer at the local schools! He now has unfettered access to young children who will TRUST him because they see him every day and he won’t be a stranger!!

A Win/Win for everyone concerned! :roll:

Peter

December 21st, 2012
12:49 pm

“The second point I want to make is that this will be a program that doesn’t depend on massive funding from local authorities or the federal government. Instead, it’ll make use of local volunteers serving in their own communities.”

That is exactly what we need Vigilantes at our schools……. Kind makes the same sense as invading Iraq.

Fly-On-The-Wall

December 21st, 2012
12:49 pm

I next expect some crazy Republican here in Georgia or other deep red state to submit a bill that requires everyone to own a gun.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 21st, 2012
12:49 pm

George Zimmerman is asking where he can sign up to volunteer. :roll:

JamVet

December 21st, 2012
12:50 pm

Wayne and the Brown Shirts are armed cowards. With HUGE wads of dirty money to buy off equally cowardly politicians.

I would have been beyond shocked had he actually come up with something remotely ethical and practical.

But the man never disappoints…

Melanie

December 21st, 2012
12:51 pm

Yes, I actually was surprised. I expected the NRA to advocate for every teacher to have a gun in the classroom. Perhaps a drive to raise money to buy every teacher a gun. Seriously. That’s what I expected.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 21st, 2012
12:51 pm

A comment and questions:

COMMENT: If no new “semi-automatic” assault rifle or pistol could be sold tomorrow in this country, the problem of a nutcase, ideologue or terrorist using one during a mass shooting will be with us for the next 100 years. We have a system in place to work on sensible proposed laws and regulations in that regard. That system will eventually work if changes are needed.

……………. in the meantime:

QUESTIONS:

1) In a substantial number of school shooting situations, by the time police arrive the perpetrator has already committed his carnage and has committed suicide. That said, should the responding officers be armed and if so why ?

2) In a substantial number of school shooting situations, unarmed teachers, staff, etc. have attempted to stop an “active shooter” carnage with predictable results. That said, should at least some teachers, etc. (who wish to do so) be armed and if so why?

3) If you do not feel that teachers should be armed, would you support at least one armed security guard or off-duty officer (inner-city schools have them !) ?

Note: You can pass any law and enhance security all you want ……… spend millions ! However, those minutes before law enforcement arrive (to merely rope off the crime scene) is when the carnage occurs. To do nothing to MINIMIZE that carnage is in my opinion cowardly and criminal.

Peter

December 21st, 2012
12:52 pm

I next expect some crazy Republican here in Georgia or other deep red state to submit a bill that requires everyone to own a gun.

You mean like in Kennesaw Ga ?

Fly-On-The-Wall

December 21st, 2012
12:52 pm

DDD, don’t forget that the ‘local’ guy could also be on the terror watch list since the NRA made sure that someone on that list still can get a gun!

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 21st, 2012
12:53 pm

Fly-On-The-Wall:

“The NRA leadership needs to be replaced – period.”

Ah …………………….. so join up and vote them out at the next annual membership meeting.

Fly-On-The-Wall

December 21st, 2012
12:53 pm

Peter,

That’s where I live and thank goodness they don’t stop by to check on that silly law of theirs.

Dharma Bum

December 21st, 2012
12:54 pm

If simply banning a certain type of firearm(s) would stop these kinds of massacres, I would completely support it… but I just have the feeling that we will simply be lowering the body count rather than tackling the real problem of why people want to do this.

Honestly, we will probably never be able to totally prevent things like this from happening because there are just some real sickos living in the U.S… they will find some way to hurt other people if the motivation is there, although I suppose limiting the amount of damage they can do is a “victory” of sorts.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 21st, 2012
12:54 pm

George Zimmerman is asking where he can sign up to volunteer.

So is this guy!

JamVet

December 21st, 2012
12:55 pm

The NRA leadership needs to be replaced – period.

Better yet, post the names of every politician who take their blood money.

And vote against them.

DebbieDoRight - Enough Is Enough Already; BAN The Assault Rife.

December 21st, 2012
12:55 pm

Pretty Fly – Oooh you called me Triple D! You flatterer you! :oops:

Martin the Calvinist

December 21st, 2012
12:55 pm

Debbie do right, Aaron Murray just threw another TD pass against Auburn.

Keep, that’s because the answer is to find out why the kid threw the rock and find out who’s to blame why he threw the rock and then spend millions banning rocks and not punish the kid who threw them.

Even Eric from Red State said the NRA speech today out uncalled for….

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 21st, 2012
12:55 pm

but I just have the feeling that we will simply be lowering the body count rather than tackling the real problem of why people want to do this.

and you support keeping the body count high?? :roll:

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 21st, 2012
12:56 pm

Hmmm. and yet Senior Digits has pointed out that one purported HERO with a gun at a mall shooting hesitated and did NOT pull the trigger because the “hero” was afraid to endanger others….. so really we need to screen this volunteer force to be certain we have people who do not care about bystanders. What’s a few more dead or injured when you are claiming anyone can stop the crazy shooter and remember, while you are not hesitating, who knows if you are shooting a “protector” or another crazy helping out. :roll:

cloudodust

December 21st, 2012
12:57 pm

Seriously, I don’t think the NRA should cave an inch on it’s stance regarding the 2nd Amendment anymore than taking up a fight against the 1st Amendment in order to quiet a nation. I kind of believe the Amendments were placed in a specific order of importance for the survival of this nation. I’ve seen more lives destroyed and overall destruction from the 1st Amendment than the 2nd within our borders in my life-time and Left or Riht, we will not have that right infringed uppon. I stand pat you are entitled to your opinion and me to mine. I also recognize I am the front line in my personal self defense and all your words to take away my rights will not give me a better chance for survival if a gun seperates me from living or dying. Matter of fact, it weakens me and emboldens the bad guys but that’s your right under the 1st Amedment. Therein lies whose hands may have the most blood on them.

Regnad Kcin

December 21st, 2012
12:58 pm

“If simply banning a certain type of firearm(s) would stop these kinds of massacres, I would completely support it… but I just have the feeling that we will simply be lowering the body count rather than tackling the real problem of why people want to do this”

It would seem to me that “lowering the body count” is a worthy goal in and of itself. But that’s just me.

Fly-On-The-Wall

December 21st, 2012
12:58 pm

0311 (or is it just zero),

Ummm, that’s what I plan on doing. I think we all should join the NRA to effect the change needed in that terrorist organization.

Dharma Bum

December 21st, 2012
12:58 pm

ByteMe @ 12:55

I support having the body count at 0

RB from Gwinnett

December 21st, 2012
12:58 pm

“NRA hasn’t changed its blustering self”

And neither has Bookman. So?

Christian Conservative

December 21st, 2012
12:58 pm

What new law would have prevented this the horrific tragedy that happened Jay? Its a simple question…

williebkind

December 21st, 2012
12:59 pm

“NRA hasn’t changed its blustering self”
The liberals have not changed their vain and empty attacks against the messenger. It is obvious that Jay nor anyone here read the reasonable, responsible, and active participation the NRA has committed its talent and resources.

Ronald Reagan

December 21st, 2012
12:59 pm

Liberals can make fun of our President, Vice President & Senators but you Comrade Bookman …..have stepped over the line here!

DebbieDoRight - Enough Is Enough Already; BAN The Assault Rife.

December 21st, 2012
1:00 pm

scout: You can pass any law and enhance security all you want ……… spend millions ! However, those minutes before law enforcement arrive (to merely rope off the crime scene) is when the carnage occurs. To do nothing to MINIMIZE that carnage is in my opinion cowardly and criminal.

You know this is why, (and I KNOW it’s wrong so I don’t need to hear it from the peanut gallery), i sometimes think that your “used to be in law enforcement spiel” is a, well, a lie.

My brothers/day are in law enforcement — and the LAST thing they’d want is to go into a situatuion where everyone has a gun drawn.

They wouldn’t be able to tell who is the bad guy and who is the good guy. And that could put THEIR LIVES in danger.

You on the other hand, seem to embrace the idea of playing, “one of these things” with cops’ lives.

Nate

December 21st, 2012
1:00 pm

Jay, is an armed guard at every school in the nation too much to ask to prevent another Sandy Hook incident or must more innocent children die for politicians with ignorance like yours? Look at Israel. They require this armed guards at every school along with encouraging school staff and teachers to remain armed, and guess what? The percentage for school shootings is almost zero.

What would you propose we do? Remove all guns from society? What about the unregistered guns? If a criminal has no problem breaking the law, he will have no problem illegally obtaining a gun. Your naive beliefs in gun control are mere fantasy and complete ignorance. Your liberal agenda undermines our Constitutional rights as a free nation to protect ourselves and our families from the violent criminals out there who will always have access to guns.

Christian Conservative

December 21st, 2012
1:01 pm

Will banning assault rifles have any effect on the one’s that are still in circulation?

Dharma Bum

December 21st, 2012
1:01 pm

I’d say we should have a balanced approach to this issue that tackles both the very open access we have to weapons and providing better mental healthcare for the nation. I know the idea of doing any kind of “balanced approach” to anything in this country is impossible right now, but one can always dream.

Jerome Horwitz

December 21st, 2012
1:01 pm

Scout – That’s why I said I wanted the opinion of educators – folks actually there. How many teachers would really want to have a firearm on their hip. The vounteers called for by LaPoop Brain is ludicrous. However, an off duty police officer? Perhaps? I doubt that the presence of such a person would have deterred Lanza. Might just have pissed him off more.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 21st, 2012
1:01 pm

I support having the body count at 0

Great! What do you propose to do to get there in one step?

Brosephus™

December 21st, 2012
1:02 pm

I would love to see the first school district to go with this. The liability insurance will bankrupt them. I guess the Mayan calendar marked the end of one era of jackassery and the beginning of another.

blackbird13

December 21st, 2012
1:02 pm

I was confused by this press conference. The one guy demanded Congress immediately appropriate money to put an armed officer in every school. Then the next guy who spoke said it wouldn’t cost anything because they’d be NRA-trained volunteers. Maybe I missed something, but the NRA leadership looked really dumb and scared out there.

Fly-On-The-Wall

December 21st, 2012
1:02 pm

Debbie (aka Triple D),

Any time I can pass on a compliment, I will. :)

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 21st, 2012
1:02 pm

I’ll ask again:

When an active shooter is gunning down children at will what is the best way to stop him right there at that moment in time ???

Or do you choose a policy to do NOTHING until police arrive and he is already dead ?

Regnad Kcin

December 21st, 2012
1:04 pm

“I support having the body count at 0″

There is a mindset that thinks, “if it doesn’t reduce the body count (or deficit) to zero, it’s not worth doing.”

They believe if you can’t make the world perfect, don’t change it at all. I don’t inderstand this kind of thinking, but there seems to be a lot of it out there.

JamVet

December 21st, 2012
1:04 pm

The answer of course is to have armed guards – but only if they are not associated in any way with our hated communist government – at every school and university, church, temple, mosque, park, playground, mall, grocery store, movie theater, restaurant, the opera, symphony, sporting events, concerts and all businesses and stop signs.

Maybe Bruce C0ckburn was right about rocket launchers after all…

rene

December 21st, 2012
1:04 pm

interesting and appropriate that wayne’s
last name means the “peter” in french…

Joseph

December 21st, 2012
1:04 pm

Christian Conservative

December 21st, 2012
1:05 pm

Will banning assault rifles have any effect on the one’s that are still in circulation?

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 21st, 2012
1:05 pm

What new law would have prevented this the horrific tragedy that happened Jay? Its a simple question…

Several:

1. A requirement that all gun owners go through a basic training and testing on gun safety every year. Paid for with fees to re-register the gun each year.

2. A requirement that all guns being registered include a gun lock.

3. A requirement that all guns used in a violent crime is also a felony for the owner of the gun if the owner claims they “lost” it.

4. A requirement that all gun magazines contain no more than 10 bullets.

5. A tax on bullets of $2/bullet.

Pick 3 to start.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 21st, 2012
1:06 pm

Debbie Do:

Happens everyday with uniformed vs. off-duty and undercover officers.

It’s the risk that I and they took.

Regnad Kcin

December 21st, 2012
1:06 pm

“What would you propose we do? Remove all guns from society?”

No one on this blog has ever proposed this, so WTF are you talking about?

Darwin

December 21st, 2012
1:06 pm

The percentage of gun owners has actually dropped from the 1970s of over 50% to around the mid-30% range today. But the number of gun sales have increased. This means that the people buying guns are not new owners, but existing owners stockpiling an arsenal. It is exactly this “cult of guns” that exist today. There is no reason for society to accept politicians love of lobbyist money and this gun culture for continuing the status quo.

RB from Gwinnett

December 21st, 2012
1:06 pm

ATL, “I do believe however that they need to work on their image, as does the GOP. Do less chastising and alienation, and more accommodating and embracing.”

When the only way to get the socialist bent left wing media who is primarily responsible for that “image” is to agree to their socialist bent left wing agenda, that’s not likely to happen. One is faced with compromising their principles or standing up for what they believe in and being shredded by a bunch of hypocrits who claim to be all for differing opinions.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 21st, 2012
1:07 pm

When an active shooter is gunning down children at will what is the best way to stop him right there at that moment in time ???

It’s called being “proactive”: take away his ability to gun down children in the first place.

DebbieDoRight - Enough Is Enough Already; BAN The Assault Rife.

December 21st, 2012
1:07 pm

When an active shooter is gunning down children at will what is the best way to stop him right there at that moment in time ???

You speak of the AFTER — what can we do BEFORE? How about making sure his azz DOESN’T have easy access to weapons!

OR, how about this — we can always wait until he has to reload, then jump him! :roll:

scout — seriously……..you really, really, REALLY need some help.

And probably some meds too.

Just saying…

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 21st, 2012
1:07 pm

For Brosephus:

“Texas school district permits concealed weapons”

“http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&rlz=1R2AURU_enUS504&sclient=psy-ab&q=Guns+in+Texas+school+district&rlz=1R2AURU_enUS504&oq=Guns+in+Texas+school+district&gs_l=hp.3..33i29l4.1240.7125.0.7235.31.30.0.1.1.0.457.3632.15j13j0j1j1.30.0.les%3B..1.0…1c.1.wipDx0dUTiQ&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.eWU&fp=c341db92e3d4d65d&bpcl=40096503&biw=1600&bih=773″

Regnad Kcin

December 21st, 2012
1:08 pm

“Will banning assault rifles have any effect on the one’s that are still in circulation”

Step by step, non-c non-c, step by step…

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 21st, 2012
1:08 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 21st, 2012
1:09 pm

Does it seem like Senior Digits and the NRA answer to 9-11 and the use of airplanes as bombs would NOT be to have airport screenings but rather to have all the passengers armed as well as to put anti-aircraft missiles on big buildings.

Skip

December 21st, 2012
1:09 pm

Bring the troops home, put them in the schools? Then the malls and the banks. Streetcorners, safe at last.

DebbieDoRight - Enough Is Enough Already; BAN The Assault Rife.

December 21st, 2012
1:10 pm

Happens everyday with uniformed vs. off-duty and undercover officers.

Don’t Undercovers have to IDENTIFY themselves so as NOT to be shot down by the Police?

It’s the risk that I and they took.

You can’t come up with a better lie than that? You’re slipping scout. Back in the old days, you could lie at the drop of a hat, now it took you 3 whole minutes to come up with that half-azzed lie.

I’ll cut you some slack though – you probably haven’t gotten your talking points for the Reich yet……..

JamVet

December 21st, 2012
1:11 pm

RB from the 1950s, get with the program!!

The media is NOT comprised of socialists! They are all outright communists and Marxists! And you should know better!!

Ask Congressman Alan West about these matters!!

Oh, that’s right.

He’s standing in an unemployment line in south Florida.

Never mind…

Real Scootter

December 21st, 2012
1:11 pm

JamVet,

What is a “Brownshirt” ? 70 years ago there was a group known as the “Brownshirts” in Germany that did the bidding of the far left.

It’s not us NRA members that need to be wearing the brown shirts here buddy! Jus sayin……..

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 21st, 2012
1:11 pm

ByteMe and Debbie Do:

You’re both dodging !

1) BEFORE: Make “any” Constitutional change in our laws that will ACTUALLY make a difference.

2) “You speak of the AFTER” ………….. NO …………. I speak of the “DURING” !!!

What do you propose to do “DURING” an active shooter situation? Or do you believe there will never be anymore of them?

Welcome to the Occupation

December 21st, 2012
1:12 pm

Was there any more grotesque display imaginable of the utter moral depravity of our political culture than to see this multimillionaire lobbyist for an organization that funds the slaughter of children step out onto the political stage and use it to exploit the slaughter of children for yet another effort to advance the bottom line of the gun maker lobby.

Utter. Moral. Depravity.

indigo

December 21st, 2012
1:13 pm

I would like to see at least two police officers at every school.

But, does the NRA have the authority to install armed guards at every school?

If so, they have even more power and influence than I thought.

Christian Conservative

December 21st, 2012
1:13 pm

ByteMe – Got ilk?:

That simply won’t fly and infringes on our 2nd amendment right to bear arms. Why should someone who only has a gun for protection purposes have to go to all the trouble of re-registering yearly and take a safety class???

Lord Help Us

December 21st, 2012
1:14 pm

Didn’t President Reagan have an armed guard (or 20) nearby?

getalife

December 21st, 2012
1:14 pm

The collapse of American conservatism is fun to watch.

Finally, marginalizing the con as kooks to save our country.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 21st, 2012
1:14 pm

“Does it seem like Senior Digits and the NRA answer to 9-11 and the use of airplanes as bombs would NOT be to have airport screenings but rather to have all the passengers armed as well as to put anti-aircraft missiles on big buildings.”

1) No ……….. you have airport screening PLUS Air Marshals and some armed pilots (those who volunteer). That is currently the law.

2) And also you have school screenings PLUS armed law enforcement, security quards and/or teachers (those who volunteer).

Special note for you: WE ALREADY HAVE ARMED GUARDS IN MANY INNER CITY SCHOOLS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU AGAINST THAT ?