‘Now the time has come; there is no place to run’
As we all know, the Mayan long-count calendar comes to an end today, at the winter solstice of the 13th b’ak’tun. And there are three basic interpretations of what happens next:
A.) Nothing.
B.) A new era begins, dramatically different from that which came before.
C.) It all ends. Everything. Kaput. Finito. Put a period on that sucker.
"I swear, these fools will believe almost ANYTHING!"
Option A, while most likely, is also the least amount of fun. Totally boring.
Option B, on the other hand, offers far more opportunities for exploration. Might we really be at the dawning of a new age? There are some who say we might very well be.
Consider, for example, the fact that the last time the Mayan long-count calender flipped over was some 5,129 years ago. And what was happening around that time frame?
A lot, as it turns out. Roughly 5,000 years ago, the Stone Age ends. Early agriculture begins in North Africa. Troy is founded. Betty White is born. Stonehenge is built. Cities emerge. The Bronze Age begins, and with it recorded human history. It was indeed a time of total transformation of human consciousness.
Are we now perched at the edge of another such transformation? The evidence. some say, is compelling. Consider, for example, this portion of the Dresden Codex, a Mayan book and the oldest known book written in the Americas. It is reported to deal with the end of time. Note the prominent figure carrying a bucket spilling water — a water carrier. As in Aquarius, the water carrier.
As in Age of Aquarius, dawning of? I report, you decide.
For those of a more pessimistic frame of mind, we offer Option C. The problem with Option C is that many, many prophecies of the end of time have been issued by charlatans over the centuries, and so far none has come true.
And how do we know they’ve never come true? Because you’re still sitting there reading this, you dummy.
But you see, that’s the easy answer to the easy question. The deceptively easy question. Here’s a tougher question: What if we’re NOT really here? What if the world as we knew it really HAS ended, and we are now someplace else but just don’t realize it?
Sure, everything may look the same. It may even feel the same. It’s Friday. Friday Night Travelin’ Music is on Bookman’s blog, just as it always is. It’s all exactly the same.
But … isn’t it all just a little TOO exactly the same? What if this world is SUPPOSED to look the same and feel the same as THAT world?
In the words of that great seer, Rod Serling:
“We know that a dream can be real, but who ever thought that reality could be a dream? We exist, of course, but how, in what way? As we believe, as flesh-and blood human beings? Or are we simply parts of someone’s feverish, complicated nightmare? Think about it, and then ask yourself, do you live here, in this country, in this world, or do you live instead… in the Twilight Zone.”
I suspect that is a question that John Boehner has no doubt asked himself often.
Now the time has come (Time)
There’s no place to run (Time)
I might get burned up by the sun (Time)
But I had my fun (Time)
I’ve been loved and put aside (Time)
I’ve been crushed by the tumbling tide (Time)
And my soul has been psychedelicized (Time)
EXCELLENT COWBELL!
– Jay Bookman
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Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
8:06 pm
“Many today try to make out like Jesus is ok with their sin because he did reach out to sinners. He did so that they would turn from their sin.”
Agreed and well put.
paulo977
December 23rd, 2012
8:09 pm
josef……” I was thinking more paranoid schizophrenia. but bull**** works, too.”_
_______________________________________________
“bull****” just gets to it quicker !!!.
Enjoy the vacation ….I have heard that it was a pretty rough semester all around !!
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
8:10 pm
“Crier — I spent 1/2 of my time in DOD schools and the other 1/2 in Catholic schools. I know my bible.”
Jesus was killed by the religious leaders who He 1) testified were evil (”The world hates me because I testify that what it does is evil”) 2) and made insecure so that they supposed they might lose their followings and positions of power.
Doggone/GA
December 23rd, 2012
8:14 pm
“Jesus was killed by the religious leaders”
No, he wasn’t. He was killed by the Romans. Yes, the religious leaders took part…but the execution was Roman, not Jewish.
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
8:15 pm
The web developers I know are young, not religious and do not hand out on blogs.
I did the Catholic thingie too but was kicked out when I said show me proof of your God.
I said I was from the show me State so prove it.
There is no proof, it is just a belief.
Humans had many Gods since the start of time.
Humans just want to believe but sadly cons are turning off the younger generation to this belief.
RF
December 23rd, 2012
8:15 pm
“I did it to show you that Jesus is not a milquetoast”
Oh, no doubt, but also consider that he said:
Luke 6:37-42 [37] “Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. [38] Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.” [39] He also told them this parable: “Can a blind man lead a blind man? Will they not both fall into a pit? [40] A student is not above his teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like his teacher. [41] “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? [42] How can you say to your brother, `Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
We should not be so busy criticizing others that we fail to see our own faults.
Just a reminder to keep it in perspective. I don’t deny the reality of his total existence, nor do I use him as justification for looking derisively upon others, and I never use him or his words in a singular context.
“Many today try to make out like Jesus is ok with their sin because he did reach out to sinners”
YEP, and I’m not even going there. Just trying to provide reasonable counterpoint to the Jesus as Judge Judy interpretation presented here.
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
8:19 pm
“Do you even pay attention to who posts what?”
Usually. But I don’t naively suppose that just because Jay has some policy regarding “sock puppets” it is going to be followed. I look at similarity of prose, vocabulary, coincidence of posters being online, relative intelligence of what is said and so on. Do you even know how Jay might know if two posters were the same person? I mean, by way of technical explanation? If you knew that, you wouldn’t question my guesses so readily.
Liberal Pariah
December 23rd, 2012
8:21 pm
Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night!!!!
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
8:22 pm
Do you know what a IP number is crier?
Fred ™
December 23rd, 2012
8:23 pm
You sure have spent a lot of time on here the last couple of days Towncrier. Is everything ok? Feeling lonely here at Christmas time? If so, I’m glad we are here to keep you company. Peace be with you.
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
8:23 pm
“No, he wasn’t. He was killed by the Romans. Yes, the religious leaders took part…but the execution was Roman, not Jewish.”
Technically, yes. But Pilate wanted to let Him go and He was not tried by a Roman court but a religious one and it was religious leaders who turned him over to be crucified. The Jews could not have publicly executed Him as they did not have the authority. The Romans killed Him because the religious leaders pleaded for them to do it.
Fred ™
December 23rd, 2012
8:24 pm
getalife: One can make an IP anything one wants to make it with the right program and/or knowledge. Hell, even easier, I could post here at home off my regular connection or post from my Ipad from my verizon and have two different IP’s……….
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
8:27 pm
“You sure have spent a lot of time on here the last couple of days Towncrier. Is everything ok?”
That is my personality, I am afraid. I get a bit too hooked on things sometimes and get too absorbed. I hadn’t posted here for over a month until recently. But thanks for asking. We are heading out tomorrow for my Dad’s.
oldguy
December 23rd, 2012
8:27 pm
getting ready to watch something with real importance…..NFL
Doggone/GA
December 23rd, 2012
8:27 pm
“But Pilate wanted to let Him go and He was not tried by a Roman court but a religious one and it was religious leaders who turned him over to be crucified. The Jews could not have publicly executed Him as they did not have the authority. The Romans killed Him because the religious leaders pleaded for them to do it.”
And all of that is straight out of the Bible. There’s more to the history than that, and some of it can’t be found in the Bible…because it didn’t fit the narrative the writers wanted to convey. There’s a prior history of “saviors” that is unknown to most because it’s not “holy” history. The Romans would not have executed Jesus by crucifiction for what was, basically, a religious quarrel. He was crucified by the Romans as an example for any future “saviors” of the Jewish people. He was executed for a Roman crime, not a religious one.
Fred ™
December 23rd, 2012
8:28 pm
Ok TC, thanks. I HAD noticed you not posting for a while which is why I asked. I do the same thing (get hooked and keep on posting lol) so I understand.
i was sincere in my question.
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
8:28 pm
“One can make an IP anything one wants to make it with the right program and/or knowledge. Hell, even easier, I could post here at home off my regular connection or post from my Ipad from my verizon and have two different IP’s”
Thank you. Hopefully Kamchak will read read what you’ve said.
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
8:29 pm
Fred,
Yes, blogs have a program that lists IP numbers and locations. There are ways to change IP’s after getting banned.
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
8:32 pm
Okay, guys and gals….I think I have now had enough. I sincerely wish all of you a joyous and memorable time with family and friends. God bless.
RF
December 23rd, 2012
8:36 pm
“He was crucified by the Romans as an example for any future “saviors” of the Jewish people. He was executed for a Roman crime, not a religious one”
He posed, as some had before him, a threat to the empire, which was clearly struggling to keep it’s expanding borders under control. I find it ironic that by the time of Constantine, the empire had come to realize that its survival meant embracing Chirstianity and using its beliefs to contain the power of the empire. Thus we have the Roman Catholic church, which somewhat surprisingly is still one heck of a power even today. What they lost in territory, they more than made up for in political influence.
Doggone/GA
December 23rd, 2012
8:41 pm
RF – yes. What the Romans failed to understand that death does not always equal defeat. They could kill Jesus, they could not defeat him.
JamVet
December 23rd, 2012
8:42 pm
Religion is just one of many fascinating subjects.
But then so are UFOs
The teeny bopper in me likes coming out this time of year….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHsA1bMZUvM
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 23rd, 2012
8:42 pm
Hopefully Kamchak will read read what you’ve said.
You aren’t worth going to all that much trouble for.
Geez….
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
8:56 pm
Oh…and one last thing for you, getalife – it occurred to me as I was taking a shower. You called me a liar regarding my claim of being a web application developer. Those are strong words. What I realized from some of your follow-up comments is that you may think a web (page) developer is the same thing. It is not. Web application development involves (among other things) coding in a language such as Java or C#, writing SQL scripts to manage databases and so forth ALONG with doing front-end stuff like Javascript, xhtml, css or Javascript libraries like jQuery or Ext JS. I can usually get $50-60 an hour working as a contractor. I am not sure I could make half that as just a web page developer. Also, you cannot see my “pages” because you have to login into web applications to see anything of note.
Have a wonderful time this Christmas.
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
9:05 pm
Don’t feel bad crier.
I call all cons liars.
First, they pretend to be intellectuals.
Then they attack and call names.
Finally, they become religious.
Took you some time to Google that didn’t you?
Tell the truth.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 23rd, 2012
9:20 pm
Took you some time to Google that didn’t you?
Didn’t you read?
He was in the shower thinking of you.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 23rd, 2012
9:24 pm
Okay, while I am confident that getalife is a fine person, I am not so sure I would admit to people on this blog or other places, that I was thinking about him while taking a shower…. just a real ewwwwww factor. All I know is that I sure hope there is NOT an app for that.
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
9:30 pm
That is a big ew comment
I try to get them to work on their credibility and this is what I get.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 23rd, 2012
9:38 pm
I try to get them to work on their credibility and this is what I get.
Maybe he was indeed working on his credibility.
Maybe that is his pet name for it.
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
9:49 pm
Kam,
That was a first and think I need a shower to clean off the ew.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 23rd, 2012
9:53 pm
getalife
You need a tub full of Purel.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 23rd, 2012
9:58 pm
How many layers of skin can you have removed safely?
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
10:18 pm
“Mike Crapo DUI: GOP Senator From Idaho Arrested In Virginia For Driving Under The Influence” HP
I figured it would be the speaker after getting beaten up like he did by his party.
RF
December 23rd, 2012
10:54 pm
“I figured it would be the speaker after getting beaten up like he did by his party”
Nah, he’s at home with the tanning bed turned up on high so he’ll be orange enough not to look all embarrassed when he has to go out and explain pulling the infamous plan B from the table. That and I’m sure nursing a bottle of nice whiskey in the process.
RF
December 23rd, 2012
10:57 pm
getalife: I’ve known a few in my life who love to be all righteous, but turn out to be very “engaging” behind closed doors, in the shower, etc….. Not that removes the ewwww factor, but you have to be ready for such surprises from them.
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, etc. to all!!
DebbieDoRight - Cons can’t win with a base that is at war with math, physics, human biology, economics and common-sense gun laws all at the same time.
December 24th, 2012
12:13 am
BAD KAM!! BAD BAD BAD!!!:
Didn’t you read? He was in the shower thinking of you.
Maybe he was indeed working on his credibility. Maybe that is his pet name for it.
Then you made Poor Keep fall of the wagon too!:
How many layers of skin can you have removed safely?
Bad Kam!!
Interesting facts about "Ave Maria"
December 24th, 2012
6:58 am
No doubt “Ave Maria” is one of the most beautiful songs of all time. At the same time it is one of the most mysterious song. The authors of the most popular versions of “Ave Maria”, Franz Schubert and J.S.Bach, never wrote a songs with this title and “Ave Maria”, which was for a long time misattributed to baroque composer Giulio Caccini, was actually composed fifteen years ago.
Ave Maria by Franz Schubert
Schubert’s version of Ave Maria was composed in 1825. Originally this song was entitled “Ellens dritter Gesang” (Ellen’s Third Song).
The words to Ave Maria song were taken from Sir Walter Scott’s poem “The Lady of the Lake” and Adam Storck wrote the German translation Schubert used for his Ave Maria song.
The confusion over the song title probably arose due to the opening verse of the song:
Ave Maria! Maiden mild!
Ave Maria Lyrics in English
English Translation of Traditional Catholic and Orthodox Church Prayer
Hail Mary,
Full of grace,
The Lord is with thee;
Blessed art thou among women,
And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
Pray for us sinners,
Now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think
December 24th, 2012
7:48 am
Good morning all…Happy Mithra Eve! My favorite holiday song…makes about as much sense as some of the others…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh-J4GSPgAM
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 24th, 2012
8:38 am
Uh oh, looks like I am in for a spanking from DDR.
And Kam is getting a real whupping for the holiday. 
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 24th, 2012
8:48 am
And Kam is getting a real whupping for the holiday.
Whip me.
Spank me.
Make me write bad checks.
Joseph
December 24th, 2012
8:55 am
Damn guys- there are only 5 of you who do 99% of the posts- I don’t think using 2 or more ip addresses changes the playing field.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 24th, 2012
9:23 am
Well now firefighters in Rochester NY were shot as they arrived to put out a fire. When does the NRA say that we need to arm firefighters or put a guard on each firetruck?
mad as hell
December 24th, 2012
9:31 am
Mery Christmas- No end of the world yet – let’s have a mass shootout courtesy of the NRA and Georgia sale of illegal guns-No. 1 in the nation. Way to go Georgia Legislature. At least we excel in something!
“”"”"”"”"”"”In 2009, just ten states supplied nearly half – 49% – of the guns that crossed
state lines before being recovered in crimes. Together, these states accounted
for nearly 21,000 interstate crime guns recovered in 2009.”II. When controlling for population, Mississippi, West Virginia, Kentucky,
Alaska, Alabama, South Carolina, Virginia, Indiana, Nevada, and Georgia
export crime guns at the highest rates. These states export crime guns at more
than seven times the rate of the ten states with the lowest crime gun export rates.
The ten states that export crime guns at the highest rates also supply a
greater proportion of guns that are likely to have been trafficked. Timeto-
Crime (“TTC”) measures the time between a gun’s initial retail sale and its
recovery in a crime – and according to ATF, a crime gun with a TTC of less than
two years (a “short TTC”) is more likely to have been illegally trafficked.
There is a strong association between a state’s gun laws and that state’s
propensity to export crime guns. There is also a strong association between
a state’s gun laws and that state’s propensity to be a source of short TTC
crime guns. Ten gun laws are examined in this analysis. In each case, states that
have enacted these gun laws are associated with lower crime gun export rates
and a smaller proportion of crime guns with a short TTC.
The ten states that supply guns at the highest rates have, on average, only 1.6 of these regulations
in place, whereas in the ten states that supply interstate crime guns at the lowest
rates, the average is 8.4.”"”"”"”"”"”"”"
http://www.tracetheguns.org/report.pdf
Merry Christmas Georgia gun dealers-business is good especially after mass shootings when the commies start talking about gun control.
RF
December 24th, 2012
9:44 am
“Well now firefighters in Rochester NY were shot as they arrived to put out a fire. When does the NRA say that we need to arm firefighters or put a guard on each firetruck?”
Give ‘em a few days of internet silence to compose themselves….
Another spin on that issue- we had a fire in my subdivision yesterday and one of the yokels is a gun nut. Buddy of mine down the street just behind the fire said when he stepped out to see what was going on, the ammo in the burning house was going off and he could hear the bullets zinging through the trees above him. Imagine being the firefighters- it’s your job to put out the fire, not dodge Rambo’s arsenal as the fire shoots it all over hell and back. I heard the shotgun shells going off at my end of the street. It worries me that so many have thousands of rounds stored up for fighting “tyrrany” and apocalyptic zombies. Those of us nearby become potential victims when all that ammo starts going off in a fire.
indigo
December 24th, 2012
9:54 am
RF – “they have thousands of rounds stored”
They need those guns and rounds because, when Obama outlaws guns and turns America into a Marxix Leninist Communist Socialist African atheist State, they will lead the rebel army.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 24th, 2012
10:09 am
Indigo, are you advocating that position or merely repeating the nonsense?
Oscar
December 24th, 2012
10:11 am
But where are the Sons of Confederate Veterans.
Oscar
December 24th, 2012
10:12 am
Sarcarsm is hard to pick up on a comment board.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 24th, 2012
10:14 am
RF, it would seem to make sense that for the safety of firefighters, that owners with more than, oh lets, say 100 rounds should have to register so that police and firefighters are aware and they should be required to have a fireproof safe to store them.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
December 24th, 2012
10:16 am
Mike Crapo DUI: GOP Senator From Idaho Arrested In Virginia For Driving Under The Influence”
Well, Merry Christmas, all you
drunksfellow bloggers.After reading this story all I know is, I’ll never complain about my last name. Use to be, I was mad at having Convert as a last name because I thought people would think I was one of them religious nuts that fell down and prayed in the streets or got up on a park bench and preached a sermon.
If I was this Crapo I’d be suing my parents and the hospitle and the birth certificate office and just about anybody else I could think of. I use to think having the last name of Fink was bad. But this one takes the prize.
Anyway, it’s the day before
Ime and little Nathan Zell George get to put all his toys together andIhe can play with them. Have a good holiday everybody.Joe Hussein Mama
December 24th, 2012
10:19 am
I liked the part on Meet The Press yesterday where Wayne LaPierre’s head exploded and one of those facehugger things from Alien jumped out and glommed onto Andrea Mitchell’s face.
Oscar
December 24th, 2012
10:19 am
Headline should read: Crapo Craps Out.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 24th, 2012
10:20 am
Oscar, absolutely, especially when others actually have that as their position.
Oscar
December 24th, 2012
10:24 am
Corey Booker was on This Week yesterday. He kept talking about closing secondary markets for guns where backgrounds checks are not required. Made a lot of sense.
Grover Norquist was also on the panel and his head would start to explode whenever Corey started to speak.
Madge From Accounting
December 24th, 2012
10:26 am
I liked the part on Meet The Press yesterday where Wayne LaPierre’s head exploded and one of those facehugger things from Alien jumped out and glommed onto Andrea Mitchell’s face.
indigo
December 24th, 2012
10:27 am
Keep – 10:09
Just being sarcastic.
It’s amazing how many tools actually believe that nonsense, though.
indigo
December 24th, 2012
10:28 am
Madge – 10:26
Andrea Mitchell? Looked more like Howdy Doody to me.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 24th, 2012
10:31 am
http://shirtoid.com/73483/facehugger-hugs/
Oscar
December 24th, 2012
10:32 am
Most of the guns going to New York and Chicago come from ten states by what should be (or may be) illegal gun sales. Georgia is one of those ten states.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 24th, 2012
10:36 am
Indigo, absolutely. Frankly I think anyone that believes that some sort of “patriots” can determine when there is “tyranny” and battle our government by killing govt workers, armed forces, police and others, they are certifiably crazy and should have all their guns removed for our collective safety. The Red Dawn brigade stupidity.
USA Patriot
December 24th, 2012
10:37 am
Interesting the Library of Congress just added the movies Dirty Harry & The Matrix amongst others, to the National Film Registry.
Merry Christmas to all!
Joe Hussein Mama
December 24th, 2012
10:40 am
I found it interesting that Wayne LaPierre cited Israel as an example of how armed guards all over the place is a great idea without mentioning Israel as an example of how strict gun control and strict gun ownership laws are ALSO a great idea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_keep_and_bear_arms#Israel
JamVet
December 24th, 2012
10:40 am
Hope everybody has a great holiday season and our cons don’t shoot themselves or their family members with their new automatic weapons!
My biggest threat this week will be the bathroom scales.
Eat, drink and have Mary!
Merry Xmas Eve, and god bless us everyone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS_TWNRy7SU
Skip
December 24th, 2012
10:42 am
Eight dead in Georgis on the roads, how hard is it to slow down in the rain?
wet wiccan
December 24th, 2012
10:49 am
Merry Christmas to all the Bookmaniacs. To the regulars, JamVet, you are still my hero. USnUK, I love reading your posts!, and Aquagirl too. Redneck, I don’t care what josef says, you are all right in by book! DDR and Matti (my sisters) and GrannyG. And of course josef, ya know I luv ya. Especially you, Jay, for putting up with all of us. Merry Christmas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hzN3Xrv47M
Joe Hussein Mama
December 24th, 2012
10:53 am
JamVet — “My biggest threat this week will be the bathroom scales.”
Be advised that the Weather Channel is talking about some severe weather later in the day and after dark on Christmas Day. They’re using the “T” word (tor-nater).
So folks, be cool if you’re driving to/from Memaw and Papaw’s house on Christmas Day.
Georgia
December 24th, 2012
10:54 am
This week with George S. had a terrific round table about the constitutional options available to voters in the bargaining stage of our national grief over the Newtown Tragedy. The entire spectrum of reactions were represented and the emotions were raw. The discussion foundered on defining the what, where, when, why and how, but at least the voters views were represented. No proposal could ever glean merit because of Historical Reminders about the plight of all pacified populations: tyranny. It’s good to be the king, you know.
Madge From Accounting
December 24th, 2012
11:00 am
The reason for the season:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54r8CLLfd94&feature=related
Georgia
December 24th, 2012
11:00 am
It’s not the speed in the rain, it’s the visability. Eight dead, and everyone goes, “It’s their fault”. The price we pay for technology? Or the price we pay because people must be free to let their inner child do the driving? How many times, have you been stuck in a traffic jam, and finally get to the carnage that caused the jam, and roll down your window and yell, “Morons!” Then you give the one finger salute, notice that a cop saw you do it, and then speed off on a hundred mile chase to escape justice? Come on. I’m sick of people lying about everything, man. It’s christmas eve. Tell the truth.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 24th, 2012
11:05 am
Tyranny: The cry of the idiots.
Funny thing, those who are guilty of denying voters their rights and of removing lawfully elected governments are the Republicans with the support of those who claim second amendment remedies.
There is no right to be armed to with weapons equal to those of our armies and law enforcement in order to “combat tyranny.”
Madge From Accounting
December 24th, 2012
11:06 am
You guys take care this Christmas/Hannakkuh! No drinking and driving and NO texting and driving! Hang the damn phones up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1DZA_TdBBI
Brosephus™
December 24th, 2012
11:18 am
JHM
Did you see where Israel came back and fact checked LaPierre with a body check to the glass?
Joe Hussein Mama
December 24th, 2012
11:22 am
Brosephus, I got disgusted with his refusal to engage on several of Dave Gregory’s topics, so partway through the interview, I went upstairs to do something constructive with my time (I took a whiz).
It’s guests like LaPierre that really make me miss Tim Russert, because I think Big Tim would have held LaPierre’s feet to the fire until he got a substantive answer ON POINT.
Brosephus™
December 24th, 2012
11:31 am
JHM
I missed it, but I did read where Israel responded to his claims. I guess that’s why I don’t host any one of those shows as nobody would want to appear unless they were ready to defend their positions regardless of their ideology or beliefs.
————————
I guess the whole idea of police being present somewhere will stop violent acts will have to be recalibrated…
BELLEVUE, Wash. (AP) — A 30-year-old Seattle man was killed and another man wounded in a shooting at a crowded bar in Bellevue, Wash., early Monday, police said.
The shooting broke out just after 1 a.m. at Munchbar at Bellevue Square, an upscale shopping center about 10 miles east of Seattle, said Carla Iafrate, a spokeswoman for the Bellevue Police Department.
Police officers were outside the bar when gunfire erupted because a large crowd had gathered there, she said.
http://news.yahoo.com/1-killed-1-wounded-bar-shooting-near-seattle-142339630.html
No arrests were made either, although the investigation is ongoing.
Madge From Accounting
December 24th, 2012
11:32 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmHGZrWKzlk
Joe Hussein Mama
December 24th, 2012
11:38 am
Brosephus, refresh my memory, please. Generally speaking, TSA inspectors (the ones who deal directly with the public) are not armed, but armed support is just a holler away if needed, amirite?
Madge From Accounting
December 24th, 2012
11:38 am
One for the road:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmEMcWFa0v8
Georgia
December 24th, 2012
11:45 am
Look, our first three presidents, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr argued in chat rooms just like this about whether it was a good idea to pass ordinances allowing ordinary people to have ordnance. Ordinarily, yes, they decided. The morality of an armed citizenry is unresolvable, because you can’t legislate values or common sense and there will always be monsters and tyrants and kooks. It’s like when Nixon said, “I am not a kook!”.
Brosephus™
December 24th, 2012
11:45 am
JHM
Yep!! At Hartsfield, there are APD officers at the checkpoints. In the International terminal, we’re only yards away from them too. Most other places generally have airport police or local police nearby. There are armed TSA people as well.
Morality?
December 24th, 2012
11:46 am
WHAT? JAY is not wishing us a MERRY CHRISTMAS? Well I will wish all a MERRY CHRISTMAS and I wish JESUS a HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
indigo
December 24th, 2012
11:46 am
Brosephus – 11:31 “I guess the whole idea of police being present somewhere will stop violent acts will have to be recalibrated”
Are you suggesting we just do away with our police departments?
After all, you seem to think they are pretty useless.
Georgia on my mind...
December 24th, 2012
12:02 pm
Merry Christmas Everyone!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai6UgZiK0l4
Joe Hussein Mama
December 24th, 2012
12:05 pm
Brosephus — “There are armed TSA people as well.”
But this is not the standard, right? I mean, I haven’t flown in several years, but I used to fly all the time in my work and I saw the changes after 9/11 right up close, from a frequent flyer’s standpoint.
IIRC, *armed* TSA guys are the exception, no?
Oh, FWIW, I must have told at least a dozen FAMs that they needed to get their leadership to make changes to their dress code. Once they started showing up on planes after 9/11, they were so OBVIOUSLY out of place it was laughable.
One young fellow (mid 20s, clearly a former Marine or soldier) got kind of edgy and nervous when I quietly told him how obvious it was who the FAMs were and how easy it was to pick them out, so he asked what they should do. I told him to lose the military hairstyle, get some nice dark suits and matching ties as well as a briefcase and DRESS LIKE A BUSINESSMAN. Young men with high-and-tights, Dockers and Polos who sat in First Class, I said, either had rich cougar girlfriends in other cities or they were packing government heat. “You do the math,” I told him.
Brosephus™
December 24th, 2012
12:10 pm
After all, you seem to think they are pretty useless.
Still barking that same drivel, huh??? Indigo/Carlos or whoever you are… Merry Christmas!!
TaxPayer
December 24th, 2012
12:13 pm
Merry Christmas, cons. Take a day off. You earned it.
barking frog
December 24th, 2012
12:16 pm
gunsheets
Brosephus™
December 24th, 2012
12:49 pm
JHM
LOL!!! Some of the past few flights that I’ve been on, business suits would have stood out. One trip to Charlotte looked like the pineapple express in that the entire first class area looked like they were going to a luau or something. I used to enjoy playing “spot the FAM” when I was with TSA.