‘Now the time has come; there is no place to run’
As we all know, the Mayan long-count calendar comes to an end today, at the winter solstice of the 13th b’ak’tun. And there are three basic interpretations of what happens next:
A.) Nothing.
B.) A new era begins, dramatically different from that which came before.
C.) It all ends. Everything. Kaput. Finito. Put a period on that sucker.
"I swear, these fools will believe almost ANYTHING!"
Option A, while most likely, is also the least amount of fun. Totally boring.
Option B, on the other hand, offers far more opportunities for exploration. Might we really be at the dawning of a new age? There are some who say we might very well be.
Consider, for example, the fact that the last time the Mayan long-count calender flipped over was some 5,129 years ago. And what was happening around that time frame?
A lot, as it turns out. Roughly 5,000 years ago, the Stone Age ends. Early agriculture begins in North Africa. Troy is founded. Betty White is born. Stonehenge is built. Cities emerge. The Bronze Age begins, and with it recorded human history. It was indeed a time of total transformation of human consciousness.
Are we now perched at the edge of another such transformation? The evidence. some say, is compelling. Consider, for example, this portion of the Dresden Codex, a Mayan book and the oldest known book written in the Americas. It is reported to deal with the end of time. Note the prominent figure carrying a bucket spilling water — a water carrier. As in Aquarius, the water carrier.
As in Age of Aquarius, dawning of? I report, you decide.
For those of a more pessimistic frame of mind, we offer Option C. The problem with Option C is that many, many prophecies of the end of time have been issued by charlatans over the centuries, and so far none has come true.
And how do we know they’ve never come true? Because you’re still sitting there reading this, you dummy.
But you see, that’s the easy answer to the easy question. The deceptively easy question. Here’s a tougher question: What if we’re NOT really here? What if the world as we knew it really HAS ended, and we are now someplace else but just don’t realize it?
Sure, everything may look the same. It may even feel the same. It’s Friday. Friday Night Travelin’ Music is on Bookman’s blog, just as it always is. It’s all exactly the same.
But … isn’t it all just a little TOO exactly the same? What if this world is SUPPOSED to look the same and feel the same as THAT world?
In the words of that great seer, Rod Serling:
“We know that a dream can be real, but who ever thought that reality could be a dream? We exist, of course, but how, in what way? As we believe, as flesh-and blood human beings? Or are we simply parts of someone’s feverish, complicated nightmare? Think about it, and then ask yourself, do you live here, in this country, in this world, or do you live instead… in the Twilight Zone.”
I suspect that is a question that John Boehner has no doubt asked himself often.
Now the time has come (Time)
There’s no place to run (Time)
I might get burned up by the sun (Time)
But I had my fun (Time)
I’ve been loved and put aside (Time)
I’ve been crushed by the tumbling tide (Time)
And my soul has been psychedelicized (Time)
EXCELLENT COWBELL!
– Jay Bookman
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Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
6:15 pm
Enter your comments here
josef
December 23rd, 2012
6:17 pm
TC
No comment.
Brosephus™
December 23rd, 2012
6:25 pm
Keep Up
I think there’s a serious disconnect when Americans see Bruce Willis blow up something or Daniel Craig shoot someone vs seeing actual carnage. Take the photos by Mathew Brady, for example. Take a walk through a Civil War Battlefield after viewing photos taken by Mr. Brady of that same area right after battle. Those photos become quite powerful in conveying what actually took place on the very ground you’re standing.
I think we’ve become somewhat desensitized, but that’s because we’re allowed to believe all violence is make believe. We see someone blown up in one movie, and then we see them later on in the next blockbuster. When you see real people who are not coming back, that changes things entirely. It may not make a big dent overall, but I bet there would be a group that would have a change of mind on issues. You could do the same for domestic abuse, DUIs, or anything else.
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Towncrier
Watching Tarrantino movies pales in comparison to seeing the photos of someone’s actual body riddled with shots from a high powered rifle. At the same time, we are not the Romans. We don’t do public executions anymore, and we try our best to make executions as “pretty” as possible. Hollywood violence is popular because we know it’s not real.
I have yet to see any Hollywood special effects that can accurately portray what happens when someone gets their brains blown out. I’ve seen it in person, and it’s something that will stay with you for the rest of your life. Based on what I’ve seen with my own eyes, I know the ramifications of me pulling the trigger on someone. If it’s a matter of life or death for me, I don’t feel that I would hesitate to do so, but that’s about the only situation where I feel that way. That’s why I keep my guns under lock and key if they’re not on my person.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 23rd, 2012
6:26 pm
Enter your comments anywhere else but here
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
6:29 pm
I guess I should have been a little more circumspect instead of hurriedly clicking on the topmost link in the search results (which raises the question, how did that site ever get to the top of liberal Google’s list?).
These are perhaps better:
http://www.theroot.com/views/course-there-are-black-serial-killers
Or, from the Wiki:
“Some authors state that African American serial killers are as prevalent, or more so, in proportion to the African American population. According to some sources, the percentage of serial killers who are African American is estimated to be between 13 and 22 percent.[14][15] Another study has shown that 16 percent of serial killers are African American, what author Maurice Godwin describes as a “sizeable portion”.[16] Anthony Walsh writes, “While it is true that most serial killers are white males, white (Anglo) males are actually slightly underrepresented in the serial killer ranks in terms of their proportion of the general male population” and that “[w]hatever the true proportion of black serial killers in the United States is or has been, it is greater than the proportion of African Americans in the general population.”[17] Other reports show about 80% of serial killers being identified as white, placing nonwhite serial killers as accounting for less than 20% of serial killers.While it is not conclusively known if black Americans are statistically less or more likely to be serial killers, reasons for under or overreporting of black serial killers could be due to racial profiling, the same factor that could account for the popular perception or reporting of serial killers as uniformly white.”
Anyway, so much for this kind of nonsense:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/12/23/cnns_don_lemon_on_gun_control_should_we_start_profiling_white_men.html
Brosephus™
December 23rd, 2012
6:30 pm
josef
Re Towncrier’s link @ 5:51….
Did you not peek over at the links column on the right? I’ve always known that serial and mass killers come in all varieties. The Stormfront link should have given you a clue as to the content of any comments posted there.
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
6:33 pm
“If it’s a matter of life or death for me, I don’t feel that I would hesitate to do so, but that’s about the only situation where I feel that way. That’s why I keep my guns under lock and key if they’re not on my person.”
We can agree there. Would that the tragically and ironically deceased Mrs. Lanza had kept her guns safely locked up. Maybe then she would have been the only victim.
josef
December 23rd, 2012
6:34 pm
TC/BROSEPHUS
I ran!
Brosephus™
December 23rd, 2012
6:38 pm
Towncrier
That’s entirely possible, or maybe Mrs Lanza would still be alive if he had not been able to get his hands on her guns at all. Sometimes not having access to that tool removes the desire to even perform the deed. It’s something we’ll never know.
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
6:39 pm
“Did you not peek over at the links column on the right? I’ve always known that serial and mass killers come in all varieties. The Stormfront link should have given you a clue as to the content of any comments posted there.”
No, my friend. I am a pure researcher (my academic training). I find what I am looking for and don’t pay much attention to all of the “noise” you find on most sites these days (pop-ups, stuff in columns, etc.) when I am searching for something. When I go to “read” a site, that’s different. Then I will drink in a little more. FYI, I have no idea who or what Stormfront is (even if I saw the link). All I was looking for was a list of killers which I found it on that site and left it.
Brosephus™
December 23rd, 2012
6:40 pm
josef
josef
December 23rd, 2012
6:41 pm
TC
Oh, Stormfront is quite the site! I can at least occasionally go there on the Jewish thingie of keeping tabs on them…the watchers, I think, would understand that and it would raise no real red flags…
JamVet
December 23rd, 2012
6:41 pm
Enjoy this Christmas.
I have and will!
The next one’s are going to be worse.
Not for me! Otherwise, what’s the point of it all?
JamVet was right all along: I am a racist!
Yep. I don’t think you’ve conquered your black demons yet. But perhaps you are still young and will. It took me a long time just to break even with them. And even longer to beat them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFTgrFSKbkk
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
6:42 pm
“I ran!”
From what I can tell, you are not a so-called “racist” or “homophobe”, so just what good are you? Huh?
josef
December 23rd, 2012
6:44 pm
TC
Black Demon aka DDR
December 23rd, 2012
6:48 pm
Hiya Town!
Boo!
Story behind the pic — I googled “picture of an evil woman” and got that photo! Naturally, i couldn’t resist!
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
6:48 pm
“the watchers, I think, would understand that and it would raise no real red flags…”
A new novel by josef: The Watcher in the Rye. Please, tell me what a “watcher” is….
Black Demon aka DDR
December 23rd, 2012
6:48 pm
ARRGGGGHHh What’s happening with all of my links!?!
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_pDbHxU8U8sg/TDSpGfN17mI/AAAAAAAADns/FJPymAN5LkQ/beldame.jpg
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
6:51 pm
“ARRGGGGHHh What’s happening with all of my links!?!”
LOL. Aren’t we in good spirits! Is it seasonal joy or something else?
DDR - Cons can’t win with a base that is at war with math, physics, human biology, economics and common-sense gun laws all at the same time.
December 23rd, 2012
6:52 pm
Thanks for all the congrats everyone! My mom just got home and she’s smiling and crying. She just loves it when we, (her OTHER kids, not me), reproduce!
She says its a piece of her that will live on forever.
I looked again at those pics she took while in the hospital — I hope that piece of her that lives forever isn’t those big jug heads those boys are sporting!
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
6:53 pm
Stormfront – White Nationalist Community is a racist site crier.
Researchers do not go there or rw media if they have credibility.
cons need to work on their credibility and try to get some back.
Until then, they wasting time on the blogs.
Brosephus™
December 23rd, 2012
6:53 pm
Towncrier
Stormfront is THE White Supremacist website. I know that because of my job training. I have to be able to recognize members of different organizations and such by sight when screening passengers. I understand your point on the list though as I sometimes will do the same. My curiosity usually gets the better of me though, and I end up doing more reading than linking here.
DebbieDoRight - Cons can’t win with a base that is at war with math, physics, human biology, economics and common-sense gun laws all at the same time.
December 23rd, 2012
6:54 pm
Crier for some reason my last two links wasn’t showing up! Frustrating as hell!
JamVet
December 23rd, 2012
6:54 pm
Because of all their tears
Their eyes can’t hope to see
The beauty that surrounds them
Isn’t it a pity?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Roh1FlcTVqA
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
6:57 pm
“Cons need to work on their credibility and try to get some back. Until then, they wasting time on the blogs.”
Thank you, teacher. Your counsel here, as always, is both profound and timeless. And the fact that you have chosen such an (shall we say) unimpressive and almost silly moniker to mask your true identity as Sage of the World demonstrates your genius. Thanks you again, kind sir for even deigning to converse with me!
DebbieDoRight - Cons can’t win with a base that is at war with math, physics, human biology, economics and common-sense gun laws all at the same time.
December 23rd, 2012
6:58 pm
Stormfront is THE White Supremacist website.
I am sooo glad that josef clicked on that mess first — so that he could warn everyone else. thanks josef for taking one for the team!
If your computer allows tracking, once you click on a website like that, they have the ability to track you and send you even MORE crap to read. BEWARE.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 23rd, 2012
6:59 pm
ROFLMAO!
And the fact that you have chosen such an (shall we say) unimpressive and almost silly moniker…
Oh, the irony.
barking frog
December 23rd, 2012
7:01 pm
DDR
I like the Black Demon thingie…seems more descriptive than DDR..
you can be a terror…
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
7:01 pm
crier,
I just type the truth.
Sometimes the truth hurts and cons lash out with silly comments like yours.
I have seen it a million times.
Work on your credibility and then we can debate the issues.
I am not going to give credibility to you.
You have to earn it.
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
7:01 pm
“I understand your point on the list though as I sometimes will do the same. My curiosity usually gets the better of me though, and I end up doing more reading than linking here.”
I am a Web Application developer. When you produce web sites for a living, I guess you tend to find such stuff a bit tedious – especially when a site is obviously of low quality in its construction. I want to get out of there as soon as I can, LOL. Maybe that is another explanation for my behavior as I think about it.
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
7:03 pm
ROFLMAO!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
“Oh, the irony.”
Indeed
DebbieDoRight - Cons can’t win with a base that is at war with math, physics, human biology, economics and common-sense gun laws all at the same time.
December 23rd, 2012
7:03 pm
Jam — thought of you when I heard this one:
Some people have everything
And other people don’t
But everything don’t mean a thing
If it ain’t the thing you want
Express yourself!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYyzBbWPV5w
Brosephus™
December 23rd, 2012
7:04 pm
DDR
I enjoy their reading, although I can say that I’m not on their email list.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 23rd, 2012
7:05 pm
I am a Web Application developer.
I am a first string quarterback in the NFL.
Dear Penthouse Forum:
You will never believe what happened last night between me and the Dahm triplets at the Holiday Inn Express….
RF
December 23rd, 2012
7:05 pm
“I think we’ve become somewhat desensitized, but that’s because we’re allowed to believe all violence is make believe. We see someone blown up in one movie, and then we see them later on in the next blockbuster. When you see real people who are not coming back, that changes things entirely.”
I have taken my sons to a few of the Civil War sites and talked about the carnage. I think you hit the nail on the head that too many don’t see violence in real terms or see it as a real part of our history. It’s harder to stop something that no sense of reality to it.
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
7:06 pm
“Work on your credibility and then we can debate the issues.”
My friend, I think we should all strive to be credible. I think Jesus was the most credible person in the world, but that didn’t stop a whole lot of people from impugning his credibility. And I would like to debate things with you a much as the next person, but you have shown little ability to do so. And I say that honestly. You seem like a kid. Are you one?
RF
December 23rd, 2012
7:07 pm
“Holiday Inn Express”
cheapskate…
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
7:08 pm
“I am a first string quarterback in the NFL.”
No, you are getalife’s sock puppet.
Josef
December 23rd, 2012
7:08 pm
TC
The watchers…what the others are saying…
JamVet
December 23rd, 2012
7:08 pm
She says its a piece of her that will live on forever.
Yes, yes, yes, yes! THE reason we are here!
And don’t ever forget that you are one of the joys here!
I’m guessing that you were referring to:
David D. “Deacon” Jones (born December 9, 1938 in Eatonville, Florida) is a former American football defensive end in the National Football League for the Los Angeles Rams, San Diego Chargers, and the Washington Redskins. He was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1980.
Jones specialized in quarterback sacks, a term attributed to him. Nicknamed the “Secretary of Defense”, Jones is considered one of the greatest defensive players ever.
And thanks for that “Sounds of Unity and Love.” (I remember it!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay19dSmztP8
DebbieDoRight - Cons can’t win with a base that is at war with math, physics, human biology, economics and common-sense gun laws all at the same time.
December 23rd, 2012
7:08 pm
frog: I like the Black Demon thingie…seems more descriptive than DDR..
you can be a terror…
Why thank you frog!
Brosephus™
December 23rd, 2012
7:09 pm
Towncrier
That, I can truly understand. I sold electronics for a while, and to this day, I can’t stand cheap electronics. Give me quality over quantity seven days a week.
RF
December 23rd, 2012
7:10 pm
“I think Jesus was the most credible person in the world”
And the most patient, loving, accepting, and nonjudgmental, IMO. Just a reminder to some out there who tend to manipulate his words and use his image to justify all manner of hateful behavior (NO names called or fingers pointed, townie, just pointing out an important fact).
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 23rd, 2012
7:10 pm
Hey getalife
Town crybaby is saying that you and I are the same person.
What do you think about that?
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
7:10 pm
“If your computer allows tracking, once you click on a website like that, they have the ability to track you and send you even MORE crap to read. BEWARE.”
Hmmm…sounds like a voice of experience. I won’t ask, DDR, and you needn’t tell.
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
7:11 pm
“You seem like a kid. Are you one?”
Typical con bs.
I will crush you son.
RF
December 23rd, 2012
7:12 pm
“Give me quality over quantity seven days a week”
The mantra for my very existence….
barking frog
December 23rd, 2012
7:13 pm
Towncrier
As a web application developer. do you do porn sites?
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
7:13 pm
“What do you think about that?”
Figures, just another con hack with zero credibility running his ignorant mouth.
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
7:14 pm
Post a page you made crier.
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
7:14 pm
“That, I can truly understand. I sold electronics for a while, and to this day, I can’t stand cheap electronics. Give me quality over quantity seven days a week.”
I know, right? I can’t believe that even today, in 2012, you can still not infrequently come across sites that look like they were constructed in the late 1990’s – you know, using HTML framesets, bizarre color and backgrounds (I particularly like the almost illegible white on black pages), corny animated .GIF images and so on.
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
7:15 pm
“As a web application developer. do you do porn sites?”
No, getalife. I can’t say thanks for your interest, either.
barking frog
December 23rd, 2012
7:15 pm
Give me quality over quantity seven days a week”
……………………………………………………
that’s all I can do….
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
7:16 pm
“Post a page you made crier.”
Post your age.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 23rd, 2012
7:16 pm
Figures, just another con hack with zero credibility running his ignorant mouth.
Ignorant is right.
It’s painfully obvious that he is unaware of Jay’s policy about one person using sock-puppets to converse with one’s self.
When he catches it, it an automatic lifetime ban.
Town crybaby is not worth getting banned here.
DebbieDoRight - Cons can’t win with a base that is at war with math, physics, human biology, economics and common-sense gun laws all at the same time.
December 23rd, 2012
7:17 pm
Kam: Dear Penthouse Forum:
Ha!
================
RF: I have taken my sons to a few of the Civil War sites and talked about the carnage.
I’m a “Big Sister” (BigBroBigSis); and I’ve taken a few of my littles to Savannah to see the slave stock yards there. I’m a big believer in history – got know where you came from to know where you’re going and who paid the price for you to get there.
PS: I’ve also taken them to Andersonville so they can see the markers and see the other side of the coin — people need to see the graves of all the people who have paid the price for their freedoms. Maybe they’d appreciate them a little more.
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Jam: I’m guessing that you were referring to:
David D. “Deacon” Jones (born December 9, 1938 in Eatonville, Florida)
That’s him! One of the greatest of all time!
RF
December 23rd, 2012
7:18 pm
“that’s all I can do….”
be proud frog!! The skill to provide quality will always be better than simple quantity, and I’ll bet the farm on that!
barking frog
December 23rd, 2012
7:18 pm
Towncrier
It wasn’t getalife that asked about the porn sites. Just curious
as I have read that they are the most lucrative.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 23rd, 2012
7:19 pm
barking frog
December 23rd, 2012
7:13 pm
Towncrier
As a web application developer. do you do porn sites?
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
7:15 pm
“As a web application developer. do you do porn sites?”
No, getalife. I can’t say thanks for your interest, either.
Do you even pay attention to who posts what?
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
7:21 pm
You are lying crier.
Lets see some of your work and I will post the web developer company I sold.
RF
December 23rd, 2012
7:21 pm
“PS: I’ve also taken them to Andersonville so they can see the markers and see the other side of the coin”
that’s next on our list and may come later next week. We have a family visit down below there and I’m planning on the site on the way down if the weather’s halfway decent. That is a great place to visit, and worth the trip. I’m going to add the slave stockyards in Savannah to the list.
DebbieDoRight - Cons can’t win with a base that is at war with math, physics, human biology, economics and common-sense gun laws all at the same time.
December 23rd, 2012
7:25 pm
“I think Jesus was the most credible person in the world”
Yeah, but you see what happened to him …..they killed him. Humans don’t seem to like people who are nice, credible, kind and giving.
RF
December 23rd, 2012
7:27 pm
“Yeah, but you see what happened to him …..they killed him. Humans don’t seem to like people who are nice, credible, kind and giving.”
And honest…they just don’t like the truth as a regular habit, do they?
JamVet
December 23rd, 2012
7:28 pm
Manning slides two yards short of the first down marker?
The NFL sucks.
Jesus was OK.
But the savior of mankind? And I’ll be tortured forever because I think the entire premise is preposterous?
Alriiiiighty then…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeEG38iUe5U
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
7:31 pm
“And the most patient, loving, accepting, and nonjudgmental, IMO. Just a reminder to some out there who tend to manipulate his words and use his image to justify all manner of hateful behavior (NO names called or fingers pointed, townie, just pointing out an important fact).”
RF, please tell me who said (among other things) the following:
“My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice.”
“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?”
“I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”
“This is a wicked generation. It asks for a miraculous sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.”
“No one comes to the Father except through me.”
“Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.”
“He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.”
“But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”
What dis the Apostle Paul say? “Behold then the kindness and severity of God.”
barking frog
December 23rd, 2012
7:32 pm
“I think Jesus was the most credible person in the world”
Yeah, but you see what happened to him …..they killed him
……………………………………………………………..
last report I got, he revived himself and went on an extended vacation
leaving a Comforter as a stand in and his Disciples to build a Church
for him to return to at which time he is going to be highly judgmental…
DebbieDoRight - Cons can’t win with a base that is at war with math, physics, human biology, economics and common-sense gun laws all at the same time.
December 23rd, 2012
7:32 pm
They’re not that much to see; when I asked the tour director about it, I was told its because (years ago); the black population of Savannah complained about keeping them part of the historical tour.
That doesnt’ make much sense to me. Slavery is a part of American History, if you’re an “indigenous” black person who can trace their family back to at least the 1800s then your family history probably has slaves in it. It’s nothing to be ashamed of –IMO — it is what it is.
Brosephus™
December 23rd, 2012
7:35 pm
RF
One of my favorite things to do is to walk the battlefields, when I can, just to get a perspective of what really went on. I’ve done quite a few, but two on my list that I have yet to visit are Vicksburg and Shiloh.
barking frog
December 23rd, 2012
7:35 pm
sign of Jonah.”
………………………
Beware the Whales.
DownInAlbany
December 23rd, 2012
7:37 pm
Reports indicate that GM plans to pay around $500 million in bonuses. This while the taxpayers stand to lose $10 billion as the feds divest themselves of GM stock. Oh, did I mention that the UAW spent about $12 million supporting dems and obama this year? Any comments?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 23rd, 2012
7:38 pm
Jesus was OK.
“Ah, Hayzeus. I like him very much, but he no help with curve ball.”
Thomas “Pedro Cerrano” Jefferson
DebbieDoRight - Cons can’t win with a base that is at war with math, physics, human biology, economics and common-sense gun laws all at the same time.
December 23rd, 2012
7:38 pm
The 7:32 — I was talking about Savannah
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
7:39 pm
“But the savior of mankind? And I’ll be tortured forever because I think the entire premise is preposterous?”
The doctrine of eternal damnation is, I believe, a pernicious falsehood – making God out to be a monster. The only beings who the Scriptures explicitly say will be tormented forever and ever are Satan and his demons. There is no clear scriptural evidence that we now have eternal souls – that is a Platonic idea that found its way into the Roman Catholic Church maybe around 400 AD. What I think the scriptures teach is that if on judgement day we are found to have been “good and faithful” servants we will receive immortality. If not, then we will be punished justly for our sins and then be “consumed” in the so-called lake of fire. Cease to exist, that is. So the real horror of hell is not punishment – as anyone can bear that for a spell, but to know what you could have had but rejected.
barking frog
December 23rd, 2012
7:40 pm
DDR 7:38
Savannah who?
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
7:42 pm
“Yeah, but you see what happened to him …..they killed him. Humans don’t seem to like people who are nice, credible, kind and giving.”
That is not why “they” killed him. You should know that, DDR. Or are you more of a “lapsed” believer than you claim?
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
7:43 pm
Any comments?
Yeah, they will spend the bonuses to help our economy.
Need more of that.
RF
December 23rd, 2012
7:43 pm
Townie: if you read up a few posts, I also said he was honest. But he also accepted ALL who came to him, and even sat to have a conversation with a prostitute without judging her. You posted a nice list of cherrypicked scriptures to make him look like the ornery judge of the world. Nice to characterize him as Judge Judy of the New Testament. The appeal of Christ was just that- no judgment and the realization of what the purest of love, which is what God ultimately offers to all who seek him, feels like. Being raised as a Southern Baptist, I’ve met a few who actually made me WANT that love of Christ and who very simply and honestly presented it without judgment… a very powerful and loving few.
Christ also said in Matthew 7: “Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 23rd, 2012
7:44 pm
Any comments?
“Romney lost the election,” immediately leaps to mind.
TaxPayer
December 23rd, 2012
7:45 pm
I guess all those that expected the world to end got out to do their last-minute shopping this weekend.
TaxPayer
December 23rd, 2012
7:46 pm
I knew a girl named Savannah and another one named Georgia.
DownInAlbany
December 23rd, 2012
7:47 pm
Thanks, Kam. You didn’t disappoint!
barking frog
December 23rd, 2012
7:48 pm
Do faith healers have emergency rooms ?
Josef
December 23rd, 2012
7:48 pm
I’ll show you mine, if you’ll show me yours!
Oh, hell, now you tell me it’s work samples…
DebbieDoRight - Cons can’t win with a base that is at war with math, physics, human biology, economics and common-sense gun laws all at the same time.
December 23rd, 2012
7:49 pm
Crier — I spent 1/2 of my time in DOD schools and the other 1/2 in Catholic schools. I know my bible.
Brosephus™
December 23rd, 2012
7:50 pm
“Romney lost the election,” immediately leaps to mind.
Tagg said he didn’t want to win anyway…..
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
7:50 pm
josef,
I asked but he would not tell.
barking frog
December 23rd, 2012
7:51 pm
I know my bible.
…………
biblically ?
JamVet
December 23rd, 2012
7:52 pm
So hell has been transformed in some circles into a non-judged oblivion? I thought the whole deal was choose correctly or suffer. This sounds heretical!
Yet the concept of heaven is equally ludicrous, is it not? Salvation, redemption, permanent joy and luxurious digs FOREVER because of this choice of a savior, Jesus Christ?
And he’s bound for New Orleans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV5ioewi4pk
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
7:54 pm
“You posted a nice list of cherrypicked scriptures to make him look like the ornery judge of the world. Nice to characterize him as Judge Judy of the New Testament.”
I did not paraphrase or misquote Him. He is and will be the judge of the world. Yes, He ate with sinners and healed all people who asked him for healing as God gives generously to all without finding fault. The fact that God sent His son to atone for our sins shows just how much He wants all of us to be saved and live with him forever. But grace is NOT a license for sin. God cannot dwell with evil and if any one of us does not have the heart to earnestly seek to do the good God teaches us to perform and leave our life of sin behind, we cannot expect we will make it to heaven because we have shown, by our actions, we are not interested in being like God but just want to continue being who we are only with a Get Out Of Jail Free card.
DebbieDoRight - Cons can’t win with a base that is at war with math, physics, human biology, economics and common-sense gun laws all at the same time.
December 23rd, 2012
7:54 pm
You guys need Jesus! :
Do faith healers have emergency rooms ?
I knew a girl named Savannah and another one named Georgia.
I’ll show you mine, if you’ll show me yours!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 23rd, 2012
7:54 pm
Tagg said he didn’t want to win anyway…..
No elevators for the cars?
RF
December 23rd, 2012
7:58 pm
“I did not paraphrase or misquote Him”
No, but you did carefully pick the scriptures that fit your need at the moment. That Bible- it has all sorts of stuff, and you just can’t try to understand it all. I grew up reading it, my friend. Don’t try to quote it as if it gives you some sort of credibility or knowledge the rest of us lack. I’ve read it cover to cover more than a few times, and I recognize fully well when one is picking scriptures that fit the moment. Try something else.
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
7:59 pm
“Yet the concept of heaven is equally ludicrous, is it not? Salvation, redemption, permanent joy and luxurious digs FOREVER because of this choice of a savior, Jesus Christ?”
He is a stumbling block to many Jews, that is for sure. The alternative is that you and I and every one else is going to hell because we did not perfectly meet the requirements of the law and prophets in the OT. Do you bring some of your own animals to sacrifice for yours sins every year? And to what temple (NOT synagogue)? Have you done even a fraction of the things the law requires?
Liberal Pariah
December 23rd, 2012
7:59 pm
RF, Jesus did hang out with the lesser crowd and did converse with the woman at the well but he did it so they would turn from the sinful life they were living and follow Him. He did not judge the woman but he did tell her to go and sin no more. Many today try to make out like Jesus is ok with their sin because he did reach out to sinners. He did so that they would turn from their sin. I too detest those who claim the name but do not possess the love of Christ that defined him.
Brosephus™
December 23rd, 2012
8:01 pm
Kamchak
When I saw that headline earlier, I did a Yahoo search on it, and Breitbart’s site came up. There are some very pissed people on that site commenting. If I were a Romney, I’d consider flying under the radar for a few years.
oldguy
December 23rd, 2012
8:01 pm
Hey Barking
My favorite bumper sticker from the 70s
“Nuke the whales”
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
8:02 pm
Jesus never left New Orleans.
He hangs at the Hustler Club asking folks to come on in.
oldguy
December 23rd, 2012
8:02 pm
I have the sticker “Stop global Whining” on my car now.
getalife
December 23rd, 2012
8:03 pm
mitt was at the Pacman fight.
Pacman got knocked out.
I think mitt is cursed.
Towncrier
December 23rd, 2012
8:05 pm
“No, but you did carefully pick the scriptures that fit your need at the moment.”
I did it to show you that Jesus is not a milquetoast, “I’m okay, you’re okay” kind of person who smiles at our deliberate sin. Apparently you don’t know that for all your professed knowledge of the Bible. God is BOTH supremely kind and severe (as Paul says). If we love Him and show that by our heart and actions, in the end all we will know is God’s kindness. If not, then we will know His severity. He does NOT compromise.