House conservatives obsessed with playing Samson
Last night, rebellious Republican congressmen sent Plan B to outer space, banished their speaker to the corner and sent a message to the American people that yes, we really are this crazy.
In the end, voting for permanent tax cuts for 99.81 percent of Americans turned out to be unacceptable to those obsessed with maintaining 100 percent ideological purity. Downtrodden millionaires and billionaires must be protected, whatever the cost.
Afterward, Speaker John Boehner seemed to throw up his hands in frustration at his own caucus.
“The House did not take up the tax measure today because it did not have sufficient support from our members to pass,” Boehner said in a prepared statement. “Now it is up to the president to work with Sen. Reid on legislation to avert the fiscal cliff.”
Boehner made no public statement and took no questions.
On critical issues of taxation and spending, this represents an enormous loss of clout for Boehner. To get future fiscal-cliff legislation through the House, he will now have to rely upon votes from both Republicans and Democrats — and probably more Democrats than Republicans. That in turn will make Nancy Pelosi his de facto co-speaker, with the two leaders trying to cobble together enough moderate votes from their parties to do the nation’s business.
It will be interesting to see whether Boehner’s fellow Republicans tolerate him playing that role, tolerance not being one of their strong points. And after the fiscal cliff will come the looming need to raise the debt ceiling, a vote that now becomes fraught with even more danger for Republicans. There too, it’s now clear that Boehner will have to turn to Pelosi and her caucus for votes, increasing the odds of a dramatic cleavage within the House GOP.
It’s also important to note that conservative bravado notwithstanding, refusing to pass such legislation is not an option. It will pass because it must pass. The House may vote no once. It may vote no twice. But eventually, it will vote yes. It is only a question of how much damage the conservatives are willing to do to their party and their country as they play out their Samson Complex, intent on pulling the whole corrupt, Philistine temple down around their ears rather than compromise.
In that sense, the serenity prayer offered by Boehner in last night’s private GOP caucus was a rare touch of poetry from the saloon-keeper’s son:
“God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And the wisdom to know the difference.”
As last night demonstrated, such wisdom is in pitifully short supply right now. Republicans find themselves divided and in retreat, pitted against a president whose approval/disapproval ratings now stand at 56/37. Perhaps more important, they are playing out their dysfunction in front of a citizenry already inclined to see the GOP as extremist and unwilling to bend for the good of the country.
Asked last night whether Boehner deserves blame for this failure, U.S. Rep. Steve LaTourette, Boehner’s fellow Ohioan, was blunt in rejecting the notion:
“It’s like saying the superintendent of an insane asylum should be discharged because he couldn’t control the crazy people. That’s nuts.”
Then again, isn’t it the job of the superintendent to control the crazy people?
LaTourette is an interesting figure. He was first elected to the House in 1994, part of the Gingrich wave that gave the GOP its first House majority in half a century. But the party’s hard move to the right has left him frustrated, and this year he declined to run for re-election. That has given him the freedom to utter hard, difficult truths.
“It weakens the entire Republican Party…,” he said after last night’s disaster. “It’s the continuing dumbing down of the Republican Party, and we are going to be seen more and more as a bunch of extremists that can’t even get a majority of our people to support our own policies that we’re putting forward. If you’re not a governing majority, you’re not going to be a majority very long.”
– Jay Bookman
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USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:10 am
“Who could respect him now?”
what mean you “now”???
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:13 am
clem – he’s awful … horrible … seriously, just a horrible human being.
Erwin's cat
December 21st, 2012
11:13 am
JHM @10:38 – I’m okay with the current tax structure, I just don’t want to pay any more than I have too.
I don’t mind paying for some entitlements, infrastructure or for defense, but certainly there is a lot of pork, fat, and fraud that can be eliminated. Raising taxes in the current environment is like raising the allowance of a financially irresponsible teenager and somehow expecting them to start saving the extra amount
Owl
December 21st, 2012
11:13 am
Since January 3, 2007, Harry Reid has been running this show. Please give this guy some credit. If it weren’t for Harry, can you imagine the places we could have ______________________?
Christian Conservative
December 21st, 2012
11:14 am
When will the dems vote on their plan?
Christian Conservative
December 21st, 2012
11:14 am
U know. The one that cuts nothing and funds gubmint for 8 days… And who’s crazy????
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:15 am
“but certainly there is a lot of pork, fat, and fraud that can be eliminated. ”
the majority of it in the DoD
clem
December 21st, 2012
11:16 am
can we raise taxes to pay for all the armed support that lapierre is suggesting? or do we need to cut a few more teachers out
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:17 am
” If it weren’t for Harry, can you imagine the places we could have ______________________?”
are we playing Match Game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kRs7F2bJgo
UNCLE SAMANTHA
December 21st, 2012
11:17 am
liberals are so IGNORANT that even MSNBC and CNN have to try to educate them about how bad the federal governments finances are…………. train in vain
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/20/left-cant-stick-heads-in-the-sand-on-entitlement-reform/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41997468/ns/politics/t/if-its-solvent-until-why-pick-social-security/
Christian Conservative
December 21st, 2012
11:17 am
Erwin’s cat:
The gubmint is about as efficient as toy bought from Dollar General. Obama and the dems don’t want to cut anything. Plain and simple. They must continue to fund pet projects like Solydra and the like because those dollars will come back in the form of campaign contributions….
Erwin's cat
December 21st, 2012
11:18 am
larry – But , keep in mind, your pension and other benefits has been called welfare by the party you so strongly defend.
cite?
AmericaShrugged
December 21st, 2012
11:18 am
Over the cliff. It’s what we need and what we deserve for continuing to elect some of the most irresponsible politicians in the history of the republic.
keith
December 21st, 2012
11:20 am
same old same old. Democrats/liberals good. Conservatives/Repulicans bad. Another day in the partisan whiney life of jay bookman.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 21st, 2012
11:20 am
E. Cat — “I don’t mind paying for some entitlements, infrastructure or for defense, but certainly there is a lot of pork, fat, and fraud that can be eliminated. Raising taxes in the current environment is like raising the allowance of a financially irresponsible teenager and somehow expecting them to start saving the extra amount”
Perhaps it’s time for me to toss out my tax/revenue proposal again. This gets a fair amount of agreement from conservatives, so I hope you’ll give it a think.
Let’s say that we set a specific previous year’s budget as the CEILING for Federal spending. That year can be 1998, 2004, 2006 or whatever we can get both sides to agree to. That *locks in* spending at that level, thereby preventing Democrats from increasing entitlements or whatever you feel less money could be spent on.
On the flip side, no more tax cuts and all revenue increases go toward retiring national debt. Obviously, we would have to have a cash-flow positive budget (take in more than we spend) before we could start actually *reducing* the outstanding debt, but by preventing further tax cuts, we *maintain* the amount of revenue coming in and ideally, we become able to aim some of it at debt reduction fairly quickly.
Obviously, this doesn’t answer the question of national emergency, such as a war or major national disaster, but we’re smart enough to handle those as they come up.
So what do you say? We set a ceiling on spending, so it can’t increase. We set a floor on taxation, so we don’t lose revenue. And we set about trying to *continue* decreasing spending and increasing revenue so we can retire debt ahead of time. Thoughts?
keith
December 21st, 2012
11:21 am
Does this jay clown ever write something worthwhile or is it always this same crap day after day?
Wait a minute
December 21st, 2012
11:21 am
I believe Speaker Boehner, short of a rally, is probably toast after the first of the year come election time. And the chance of getting anything done with Nancy Pelosi are nil, as she’ll never be able to get enough Democrats (heck, any) to accept the budget cuts this country needs to right the ship.
clem
December 21st, 2012
11:21 am
lapierre for nutbar of the year!
Mr Right
December 21st, 2012
11:23 am
somehow when I see a pic of Pelosi I think of of 101 Dalmatians!
Mr Right
December 21st, 2012
11:25 am
keith
December 21st, 2012
11:21 am
It’s his agenda!
Woodstock Mike
December 21st, 2012
11:25 am
The NRA is exaclty right, schools need armed security. Banning guns won’t help anything when there are 300 million guns in the country. Anyone who thinks banning guns solves the problem is just plain wrong. It would be nice if it were that simple. After VA Tech the NRA lobbied for armed security in all schools, I wonder if Newtown, CT would have been different if there was armed security? Most likely the shooter would have never gone there…
clem
December 21st, 2012
11:25 am
no no you are thinking of mary matlin
Regnad Kcin
December 21st, 2012
11:26 am
Did recess just let out over at Kyle’s?
Lord Help Us
December 21st, 2012
11:27 am
‘ I wonder if Newtown, CT would have been different if there was armed security? ‘
How about churches? We need armed security there too?
alittlecommonsense
December 21st, 2012
11:27 am
I think the Republicans who wouldn’t go for this bill were certainly making a poor decision. But maybe we should also ask ourselves why no Democrats would go for it.
Apparently the entire Democrat caucus is willing to let the country go over the fiscal cliff instead of accepting this compromise. Not the President. Not Harry Reid. Not one single Democrat representative was willing to jump onboard this plan.
So maybe instead of talking about the twenty some Republicans that obstructed, we should be talking about the entire Democrat party obstructing.
clem
December 21st, 2012
11:28 am
change your moniker
Joseph
December 21st, 2012
11:28 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2170969/Wealthy-socialite-Denise-Rich-renounces-U-S-citizenship–saving-tens-millions-dollars-taxes.html
Big liberal donor- spouse previously pardoned by that neocon Clinton- renounces US citizenship- oh the outrage
Wait a minute
December 21st, 2012
11:29 am
Joe Hussein,
We need 218 of you in the House and 51 of you in the Senate. Way to logical (balanced budget) for those people in Washington (and frankly our imbecilic public) to understand (want a balanced budget but don’t want any programs cut and think taxes are high enough as they are, etc.)
Jhunt163
December 21st, 2012
11:29 am
Face it, the house is responsible for funding our government and are elected by the people in their districts.We just had an election and it voted for a Republican house. It may have voted for a Democratic President, but he is not tasked with funding.
Doggone/GA
December 21st, 2012
11:30 am
And the chance of getting anything done with Nancy Pelosi are nil, as she’ll never be able to get enough Democrats (heck, any) to accept the budget cuts this country needs to right the ship”
Sure she can. All they have to do is sit tight and do nothing…and those cuts will kick in automatically. Easy.
JamVet
December 21st, 2012
11:31 am
The gubmint is about as efficient as toy bought from Dollar General.
Air Iran is ready when you are.
And you’ll be a LOT happier there, christian fraud. Just think of how many OTHER America haters you could pal around with…
Doggone/GA
December 21st, 2012
11:31 am
“But maybe we should also ask ourselves why no Democrats would go for it. ”
How do you know they wouldn’t? There was no vote on it.
Erwin's cat
December 21st, 2012
11:31 am
JHM – I’m on board with that…I may even claim it as my idea >^..^<
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 21st, 2012
11:33 am
lapierre is proposing people like Zimmerman to be patroling the schools
Geesh what an ass
stands for decibels
December 21st, 2012
11:33 am
on my news.google.com, I see among the top stories:
President Obama posts video response to gun control advocates, telling them …
Ok, how would YOU finish the headline?
DownInAlbany
December 21st, 2012
11:33 am
Joe Hussein Mama
December 21st, 2012
11:20 am
Good plan! Only problem is: it makes too much sense! It’ll never fly in DC (neither side of the aisle!)
Mick
December 21st, 2012
11:34 am
0311
Well, I’m with you on the marine being held in a mexican jail finally being released after 4 months, that was a shameful abuse of power on their part, totally not necessary…
Skip
December 21st, 2012
11:34 am
And yet we can afford how much foreign aid?
appleseed
December 21st, 2012
11:37 am
Obamas clip joint,open 24/7.You cons.don’t forget to tip.
td
December 21st, 2012
11:37 am
“O’bomber even keeps the war going along the Mexican border with projects like “fast and furious” and there is still no sign of ending it. He is a Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so. How shrewd he is in America. His cult of personality mesmerizes those who cannot go beyond their ignorance. They will continue to follow him like those fools who still praise Lenin and Stalin in Russia. Obama’s fools and Stalin’s fools share the same drink of illusion.”
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/19-11-2012/122849-obama_soviet_mistake-0/
Even the freaking Russian’s know who Obama really is.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 21st, 2012
11:38 am
For soon to be former speaker Boehner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzD7XQ_0pjc
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:38 am
“How about churches? We need armed security there too?”
and malls
and movie theaters
Regnad Kcin
December 21st, 2012
11:38 am
If the republicans can’t even muster support for their OWN plans, they’re never gonna be able to deliver votes for a grand bargain. It appears the only hope is for a democratic plan that strips off enough republicans who are patriotic enough not to send their country down the toilet.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:38 am
“He is a Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so.”
yay!!! taking socialist and doubling down …
do, praytell, enlighten us with his communist policies.
stands for decibels
December 21st, 2012
11:39 am
And yet we can afford how much foreign aid?
wiki is your friend.
The 2010 United States federal budget spent $52.7 billion out of $3.55 trillion (1.5%) on foreign aid. $15.0 billion was military; $37.7 billion was economic aid (of which USAID received $14.1 billion).[1]
Figure the 15 billion is direct stimulus money to our defense industry–it’s mostly used to buy scary looking planes and such.
So the 37 billion is what is left. And if you want Egypt and Israel to keep from attacking each other, you probably have to leave a few billion alone.
Not much to work with really.
Owl
December 21st, 2012
11:40 am
A double big thank you to the former girl scout. Better than reading here which one of any of these “parties” is going to get credit for taking more of my $.
Lord Help Us
December 21st, 2012
11:42 am
‘and malls
and movie theaters’
My FREAKIN’ BANK doesn’t even have armed security!
What about grocery stores?
Mick
December 21st, 2012
11:42 am
td
Paranoia much? You’re exposed, lightweight thinking wrapped in absurdity is no way to go through life!!!
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 21st, 2012
11:43 am
LHU
Think of it as the NRA’s stimulus plan
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:43 am
“What about grocery stores?”
especially when the Twinkie supply dwindles …
Jack ®
December 21st, 2012
11:44 am
Those of you who wanted Obama and his kind of governance, you got it. Those of you who hate those more successful than yourself, you have a president that’s your champion. And those of you who want to pay for others’ lack of ambition and planning, go for it. I’ll sit back and enjoy the Hollywood mentality and watch the mail for my check.
Lord Help Us
December 21st, 2012
11:45 am
‘Think of it as the NRA’s stimulus plan’
They have lost their flippin’ minds…
Christian Conservative
December 21st, 2012
11:45 am
JamVet:
I think you would fit in there more than I. I value this country and what it stands for. You and and your ilk want fundamental change that will weaken us for the next generation… If you honestly want someone to leave look in the mirror….
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:45 am
“Those of you who wanted Obama and his kind of governance, you got it.”
thanks god.
beats the hell out of Boehner’s.
alittlecommonsense
December 21st, 2012
11:45 am
“How do you know they wouldn’t? There was no vote on it.”
There was no vote because Boehner knew it wouldn’t pass. He knew exactly how many votes he had. If he had probably three or four Democrats sign on, he could have passed it. So yes, I suppose it is possible that there was a Democrat somewhere that would have voted yes, but there certainly weren’t any news reports of one that was willing to cross party lines and compromise.
JohnnyReb
December 21st, 2012
11:45 am
Jay, his followers here, and the rest of the Leftie world need to wake up and stop the false rhetoric.
The truth is, you have elected a president that is not trusted. He is arrogant and either does not have the ability or will not negotiate.
I applaud the representatives that are sticking to their guns and will not vote for tax increases until Obama guarantees meaningful expense cuts and gets serious about the deficit.
You can continue to believe the media’s warped vilification of the representatives or you can realize they were elected to stop the spending. That is what they are trying to do.
If we go off the so-called cliff, it will be Obama’s fault regardless of how the media in his pocket paint it.
And, before there are numerous posts of having won the election, etc, etc. You did not win enough of the election to control the money. That still resides with the House of Representatives and we have control of that house.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:46 am
JamVet – “You and and your ilk”
you have an ilk???
I’ve always wanted an ilk!! where did you get it???
stands for decibels
December 21st, 2012
11:46 am
Actually, some days near the end of the month, there’s some uniformed dude with a gun standing outside my bank branch. Always perfectly polite but I gotta say, his being there, it doesn’t exactly make me feel warm and fuzzy.
I don’t figure he’s there to protect me. He’s there to protect the assets. If he has to go through me to take out the bad guy, that’s why Blackwater (or whatever the Christian Identity outfit’s calling itself today) carries insurance.
Regnad Kcin
December 21st, 2012
11:48 am
“What about grocery stores?”
Little League games, bowling alleys, pulic swimming pools, parks, street fairs – why, we’d only have to raise the buget a couple triilion, I bet. Makes more since than even considering any form of gun control, though, right?
barking frog
December 21st, 2012
11:48 am
USinUK
beats the hell out of Boehner’s.
………………………
oh my…..
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:48 am
“And, before there are numerous posts of having won the election, etc, etc. You did not win enough of the election to control the money. That still resides with the House of Representatives and we have control of that house.”
yeah. and doing a JAM-UP job of it, Boehner is. hell, he can’t even wrangle his own party to a vote.
Lord Help Us
December 21st, 2012
11:48 am
‘“What about grocery stores?”’
What about public parks?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:48 am
barking –
totally unintentional!
Regnad Kcin
December 21st, 2012
11:49 am
“Those of you who hate those more successful than yourself,”
What a silly person you are. Try reality, it can be refreshing!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:49 am
“What about public parks?”
and stadiums!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 21st, 2012
11:50 am
That still resides with the House of Representatives and we have control of that house.
Majority?
Yes, Republicans have a majority there.
Control?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
No, not so much.
JohnnyReb
December 21st, 2012
11:50 am
USinUK – they won’t support B not because of the tax increase, but because there are not enough guaranteed spending cuts.
Heck, your champion wants more stimulus money.
Don’t be an uniformed blind follower, please. There are enough of them to go around.
newkid
December 21st, 2012
11:51 am
Sorry for the off-topic post, but just heard a portion of NRA press conference. Call being made for armed security at schools, and the like, to protect citizens against ‘bad guys with guns’. No problem there. But, as expected, rather than calling for the funds that will finance these armed guards to come out of mandatory liability insurance that would be paid by gun purchasers and owners, NRA is recommending that we ’socialize’ these costs by having the ‘government’ pay for this protection. I say again, require liability insurance before the ‘drive off the lot’ with a weapon, require bi-annual renewal of this insurance, and s set the insurance rates high enough to FULLY reflect the full cost to society of having 300+ million guns in circulation in the nation. Use a significant percentage of the proceeds from this liability insurance to protect innocent citizengs; don’t 100% socialize the costs.
stands for decibels
December 21st, 2012
11:51 am
Not often I get to say that, but God Bless Code Pink.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/21/16068647-defiant-nra-leader-rejects-gun-controls-asks-to-put-police-in-schools?lite
God bless you every one.
Mick
December 21st, 2012
11:51 am
reb
Get serious, obama wins the election yet it is HE who should capitulate for the sake of the 2%? That’s insane and until repubs learn how give the president and his majority their due, repubs will be seen as disreputable losers. There are alwys more battles to fight but on this one, the people say get the hell out of the way!!!
Adam
December 21st, 2012
11:52 am
That entire NRA news conference was horsesh*t.
/drive-by
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 21st, 2012
11:52 am
LHU
Lapierre is a nutcase. His answer for guns at schools, MORE GUNS
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:53 am
“they won’t support B not because of the tax increase”
bollocks.
“I don’t want taxes to go up; Republicans don’t want taxes to go up,” Boehner said
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/boehner-pins-responsibility-for-avoiding-fiscal-cliff-on-obama-democrats/2012/12/21/5aa6bbb0-4b77-11e2-b709-667035ff9029_story.html
“A Republican senior aide explained, “We have some members that would rather let all tax rates go up ‘without their fingerprints’ than save some taxpayers from a tax hike and letting just the top rate go up. That is what it amounts to.””
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2012/12/20/boehner-plan-b-house-republicans-humiliate-their-leader/
Regnad Kcin
December 21st, 2012
11:53 am
“NRA is recommending that we ’socialize’ these costs by having the ‘government’ pay for this protection”
NRA is SOSHULIZT!!!!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:54 am
I never use the C-word.
but, if I did, I’d use it on Wayne LaPierre.
Michael
December 21st, 2012
11:54 am
The schools need more armed guards and fewer teachers. That’s the ticket.
Frankly, I blame the Mayans. Paul Broun was on CSPAN this morning explaining the house republicans, and now Wayne LaPierre is explaining how to solve our problem with mass shootings. The world may not end, but I’m feeling a little indigestion. Those souls cooking today should remember that Montezuma had other ways of getting revenge.
Great negotiating strategy if you don’t want taxes to go up. The temporary tax cuts automatically expire New Year’s eve. After that see how much of your wish list can get a majority vote and the signature of the president.
Peter
December 21st, 2012
11:55 am
The truth is, you have elected a president that is not trusted. He is arrogant and either does not have the ability or will not negotiate.
No that is not true .. But hey you live and probably got that Georgia education.
The wealthiest and the most educated parts of the US voted for Obama.
the cat
December 21st, 2012
11:56 am
why did la puke need so much security at this press conference? Wasn’t he carrying?
Regnad Kcin
December 21st, 2012
11:57 am
“The wealthiest and the most educated parts of the US voted for Obama.”
True. The 47% “moochers and takers” voted for Romney.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 21st, 2012
11:58 am
USinUK
Wayne LaPierre
I never use the C-word
——————————————–
I can think of many words that start with ‘C’
But yeah if it’s the one I’m thinking also, it is appropriate.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 21st, 2012
11:58 am
Boehner’s Plan C involves building a large wooden badger…
Heh, heh, heh.
Regnad Kcin
December 21st, 2012
11:58 am
“why did la puke need so much security at this press conference?”
And why does he want the government to pay for it? What a moocher!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 21st, 2012
11:58 am
Okay, team … I’m outta here for the duration …
I wish everyone a wonderful solstice, happy yule, merry christmas, and festive festivus (and its corresponding airing of grievances).
Stay safe and I’ll see you in the new year!
stands for decibels
December 21st, 2012
12:00 pm
Happy Christmas to you n’ yers, UnU.
clem
December 21st, 2012
12:01 pm
yea, time to go feeling good that the far right will soon be irrelvant.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 21st, 2012
12:01 pm
J. Reb — “Jay, his followers here, and the rest of the Leftie world need to wake up and stop the false rhetoric.”
Said the master of the art.
Look, we get it. You’re upset. Well, too bad. You lost.
Now if you don’t have something SUBSTANTIAL and TOPICAL to offer, why don’t you just slink off somewhere else?
td
December 21st, 2012
12:01 pm
Regnad Kcin
December 21st, 2012
11:57 am
“The wealthiest and the most educated parts of the US voted for Obama.”
True. The 47% “moochers and takers” voted for Romney.
Not meant to be a factual statement.
Look at the exit poll results: The top 1% and the bottom 50% takers put Obama back in office. All the real working people voted for Romney.
Skip
December 21st, 2012
12:03 pm
57 billion would put a lot of armed guards in fast food places.
stands for decibels
December 21st, 2012
12:04 pm
All the real working people voted for Romney.
I find it hard to believe even *you* believe something as transparently dishonest as that.
Maybe Santa will give you a wee dollop of integrity.
Real Scootter
December 21st, 2012
12:07 pm
Dang, the hate is thick here today.I have figured out that many of you hate Repubs and the NRA.Are there any other groups of US citizens You would care to hate on? Whew!
stands for decibels
December 21st, 2012
12:08 pm
57 billion would put a lot of armed guards in fast food places.
You don’t have 57 billion to work with. You don’t even have 52 billion.
Did you read what I posted, skip? you think those DoD contractors would roll over and allow you to take away 15 billion in a steady revenue stream?
Oh, and good luck dodging whatever Mossad moonlighter would be hired to take you out by AIPAC. And those are just the low-hanging fruit I’m picking here.
getalife
December 21st, 2012
12:11 pm
The gop attacked your 401k’s today.
A lump of coal from the gop to the American people.
TaxPayer
December 21st, 2012
12:11 pm
Give the NRA eunuchs their police in schools and we’ll tax their cowardly buttocks to pay for it.
indigo
December 21st, 2012
12:11 pm
USinUK
What is the general British reaction to the school shootings here?
RF
December 21st, 2012
12:15 pm
My favorite statement in LaPierre’s diatribe today:
“”The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,”
Nice to see the NRA clones are still on message…
indigo
December 21st, 2012
12:17 pm
td – “all the real working people voted for Romney”
I”m guessing the youth Minister at your fundamentalist church told you to post that here.
Ignorance
Peter
December 21st, 2012
12:18 pm
All the real working people voted for Romney. HA HA HA HA. sure all the folks who lost their job to Bane as he outsourced the American jobs !
All the real working people voted for Romney. Not meant to be a factual statement.
RF
December 21st, 2012
12:18 pm
getalife @12:11- here’s the response the Republicans ask from us for the beneficence they so graciously bestow upon us:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdFLPn30dvQ”
the cat
December 21st, 2012
12:18 pm
My son’s high school is enormous, the graduating class has thousands. I don’t care if you had an armed Rambo at every door, if someone wanted to enter the multiple buildings and start shooting, it would take Rambo several dead students to get to the scene.
Peter
December 21st, 2012
12:19 pm
Looks like the NRA wants us to raise taxes to pay for their plan… go Republican’s…. can you say talk with forked tongue ?